Speaker 1: June is here, and that means pre draft workouts are
Speaker 1: starting to pick up. I felt good, ha ha hard.
Speaker 1: I was playing defense, ha ha hard, I was competing
Speaker 1: and even making shots. We're gonna hear from Lou dort,
Speaker 1: a projected first round pick out of Arizona State, who
Speaker 1: was in town for a workout, and ESPN College basketball
Speaker 1: analyst Dalen Cuff, who weighs in with his draft thoughts
Speaker 1: on the seventy sixers. There's a number of upper classmen
Speaker 1: that really understand how to play the game where I
Speaker 1: think they could help teams like Philadelpha. They can help
Speaker 1: playoff contending teams. It is another draft season edition of
Speaker 1: the broadcast coming up. As they say, better weather, who
Speaker 1: gets better draft talk? Now, no one says that. I have,
Speaker 1: for the record, never heard anyone make that connection whatsoever.
Speaker 1: But I will tell you this a truism that on Monday,
Speaker 1: June three, when the seventy sixers brought in their latest
Speaker 1: group of prospects for a pre draft work count, the
Speaker 1: weather was excellent. We had a great weekend here in
Speaker 1: the Delaware Valley. Seventy degrees on Monday, just a very nice,
Speaker 1: non humid time of the year. Also a great time
Speaker 1: of the year to dive into the draft. We're gonna
Speaker 1: hear from a Lou Dort out of Arizona State and
Speaker 1: Dalen Cuff from ESPN all that is coming up. But first,
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Speaker 1: I say expert Dalen Cuff with some thoughts and knowledge
Speaker 1: in a minute or two. But first let us hear
Speaker 1: from Lou Dort. He was one of six prospects the
Speaker 1: seventy sixers had in for a workout on Monday, June third.
Speaker 1: Also included in that group, Nas read out of LSU,
Speaker 1: Terrence Davis from Mississippi, and of course Terry Harris, younger
Speaker 1: brother of Tobias Harris, wrapped up his career at North
Speaker 1: Carolina A and T so very spirited session inside the
Speaker 1: seventy sixers practice facility on Monday, And here's what lou
Speaker 1: Dort had to say afterwards when we caught up with
Speaker 1: him courtside. All right, so here we are. Catch me
Speaker 1: up to speed with what you've been doing so far
Speaker 1: your predraft process. Oh, I've been working a lot on
Speaker 1: my shot conditioning. I mean there's there's a lot of
Speaker 1: way cuffs coming up for me, so I've worked on
Speaker 1: my body and then stay in shape and then get
Speaker 1: to get a lot of slipment to take care of
Speaker 1: my body. So it's been pretty Yeah, specifically just workout
Speaker 1: with the sixers. What did you feel good about? I
Speaker 1: felt good how hard I was playing defense, how hard
Speaker 1: I was competing and even making shots too. Yeah. Where
Speaker 1: do you feel like your game, your body, your whole
Speaker 1: package you're offering is most NBA ready? Oh? I felt
Speaker 1: that's the way I compete. My body. I'm pretty strong,
Speaker 1: strong guards. I feel like I can guard pretty well.
Speaker 1: That's why there's not a lot of guards that's willing
Speaker 1: to guard. So I'm one of them. And then I'm
Speaker 1: just ready to compete and just run the floor. Finished
Speaker 1: I'm easy basket and just just just play hard. You're
Speaker 1: obviously someone who was highly recruited coming out of high
Speaker 1: school and had a nice pipeline track record going into
Speaker 1: college and Arizona State. Still, you went out there, led
Speaker 1: the team and scoring decorated season. What do you think
Speaker 1: allowed you to make an immediate impact last year? That's
Speaker 1: really coaching staff for my teammates. I felt like that
Speaker 1: that a lot of trusting me, even at first. I mean,
Speaker 1: coach Shelley was the first one to tell me that
Speaker 1: I had a chance to be a one and done.
Speaker 1: And then the fact that he prepared me on on
Speaker 1: the floor even off the floor, I mean, we got
Speaker 1: just feel like we we worked a lot this year,
Speaker 1: and I feel like I had a pretty good season
Speaker 1: this past year. What do you think it was about
Speaker 1: your scoring style specifically that was really so effective? Oh? Shoot,
Speaker 1: the way that that I drive to the basket. I
Speaker 1: felt like the fact that I was really big and
Speaker 1: I had ad finished on a couple of guards that
Speaker 1: was guarding me. So the fact that I could drive
Speaker 1: to the basket and and making tough on the big
Speaker 1: to block my shot or get to the free throw line,
Speaker 1: and and nucking down some up and shots too. Have
Speaker 1: you always been a strong, powerful guy? Have you putting
Speaker 1: a lot of work on your body? Yeah, it started
Speaker 1: like this, I mean just going up always. I was
Speaker 1: always big, So it starting like this, and then I
Speaker 1: add more skills to my game, be able to knock
Speaker 1: down shots and be able to run the point and
Speaker 1: get my teammates and balls to the decision to go
Speaker 1: into the draft. What were some things that went through
Speaker 1: your mind? What was making that decision? Like, I'm sure
Speaker 1: it's not an easy thing too. Yeah. So, I mean
Speaker 1: I just had to talk to my people in my
Speaker 1: family and actually coach really, we'll ask you first one
Speaker 1: to call me to his office and he told me that,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you ready, and then he doesn't
Speaker 1: think that that I have to come back, so he
Speaker 1: actually told me to leave. And then when when after
Speaker 1: I heard that from him, I was it was really
Speaker 1: easy for me to make my decision. It's crazy how
Speaker 1: strong of a pipeline Canada has these days going to
Speaker 1: the pros. Is there a point of pride for you
Speaker 1: being from Camp? Oh yeah, definitely. I mean even though
Speaker 1: and I'm from Montreal. Two so the fact that there's
Speaker 1: not a lot of places from Montreal going out there
Speaker 1: in the States and now being a disposition, I'm just
Speaker 1: really pride to say that even to kiss from from
Speaker 1: montsh'all have a chance. I was going to ask you
Speaker 1: about that, because it's got to be a little bit
Speaker 1: different than Toronto, where it seems like that seems been
Speaker 1: coming along for a while, right, Yeah, I mean we
Speaker 1: get we're really getting better. I feel like now Monshroald
Speaker 1: in Ontario, Toronto is actually ran out of the competition.
Speaker 1: It's about the same, and I just feel like we
Speaker 1: keep coming up and then I feel like there's more
Speaker 1: kiss from Monshal that that's gonna have a chance. It
Speaker 1: was a really strong season for lou Dort with the
Speaker 1: Sun Devils under head coach Bobby Hurley. Led the team
Speaker 1: in scoring around sixteen per game, also average four and
Speaker 1: a half rebounds, two and a half assists, one and
Speaker 1: a half steals. He was PAC twelve Rookie of the Year,
Speaker 1: All PAC twelve overall and the second team, and he
Speaker 1: received an All Defensive Team in the PAC twelve nomination
Speaker 1: as well. Got to the free throw line a ton
Speaker 1: a very strong, sturdy, explosive and physical player who got
Speaker 1: to the rim on a regular basis, So Lou Dort
Speaker 1: part of the seventy Sixers workout group on Monday, June third.
Speaker 1: We're gonna dial with Dale and Cuff in just a second.
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Speaker 1: Seventy sixers full on into draft season. A lot of
Speaker 1: workouts at the training complex this week, so it is
Speaker 1: time of the podcast for us to further dive into
Speaker 1: our draft prep. And for that, I gotta bring in
Speaker 1: a guy who scarily, at this stage in our lives,
Speaker 1: we can actually say we go back a ways, like
Speaker 1: probably a decade worth of time. You see him on
Speaker 1: ESPN all over their college hoops coverage. His name is
Speaker 1: Dalen Cuff. He played at Columbia University. I did games
Speaker 1: for Penn Dylan. What's up man? Not much Broan, Good
Speaker 1: to be on with you, man. Yeah, I think it
Speaker 1: might be more than a decade, but that is quite
Speaker 1: a ways back. It's terrifying when you really look at
Speaker 1: the timeline. I actually I feel like maybe towards like
Speaker 1: my late twenties early thirties, I could like joke with
Speaker 1: people and say, oh, you know, like I'm aging I'm
Speaker 1: getting old. But now I actually feel when I say, like,
Speaker 1: you know, we've had some sort of connection for about
Speaker 1: almost a decade and a half, I can be like,
Speaker 1: I do seriously feel old. Yeah, Unfortunately, that's just how
Speaker 1: it goes. Everybody. You people told us set too. Everybody
Speaker 1: tells you you're in college, like, enjoy those years. They
Speaker 1: go by so quick. Then you're in your mid twenties.
Speaker 1: I'll live it up. You don't have kids. Then you
Speaker 1: start having kids. I start running people at a grandparents.
Speaker 1: Enjoy it. Now. Everybody keep telling you about every step
Speaker 1: of the way, and they just keep buzzing by every
Speaker 1: every landmark. So here we are. You cannot outrun the clock.
Speaker 1: You know, most times I feel somewhat intimidated when I
Speaker 1: have conversations with college basketball experts and draft experts, because,
Speaker 1: in full disclosure, when the NBA season is going on,
Speaker 1: I feel like there's only so much bandwidth I've got
Speaker 1: in my brain. That's a flaw, I admit, but it's
Speaker 1: also the truth. One of the things that I like
Speaker 1: about this is A, you are a very knowledgeable on
Speaker 1: top of it dude. But B I feel like there's
Speaker 1: a context where I can simply say to you, Dalen,
Speaker 1: start me off. The seventy sixers playoff run ended about
Speaker 1: two weeks ago. I need a draft primer. I feel
Speaker 1: like I can be very comfortable asking you very basic
Speaker 1: run of the milk questions before going into the granular.
Speaker 1: So why don't we begin there. Just give me your
Speaker 1: overall impressions thoughts as we zoom out to maybe thirty
Speaker 1: thousand feet on what the two thousand nineteen draft pool
Speaker 1: and draft class could be looking like. Just in general,
Speaker 1: it's not a great draft. Let's just say that outside
Speaker 1: of really the top three picks, and you could even
Speaker 1: argue a little bit of the top two, which in
Speaker 1: my mind are going to be Zion Williamson and John Murant,
Speaker 1: and I don't think I have to explain anymore about
Speaker 1: who those guys are. And maybe you throw on RJ.
Speaker 1: Barrett in the mix. It's a bit of a crapshoot
Speaker 1: after that, It's not It's not what we've seen a
Speaker 1: couple of recent years. I've been some better drafts. You've
Speaker 1: had some guys you could see six, seven, eight, nine
Speaker 1: to ten that could that could be players that are
Speaker 1: go to guys. Would be a guy like Jamal Murray
Speaker 1: from a few years back that I know I was
Speaker 1: really big on him. He's he's shown now the the
Speaker 1: playoff level that he could kind of deliver at different times.
Speaker 1: School guys like that I'm not sure exist in this draft,
Speaker 1: so I really think it's a little bit weaker. That said,
Speaker 1: I do think there's guys you can find. There's a
Speaker 1: number of upper classmen that really understand how to play
Speaker 1: the game, and I think will probably come around that later.
Speaker 1: And we're talking about Philadelphia where I think they could
Speaker 1: They could help teams like Philadelphia that could help plaoff
Speaker 1: contending teams because they can give you something because they're
Speaker 1: guys that can play maybe off the ball, that understand
Speaker 1: how to play that he can give you energy, that
Speaker 1: can make shots on In today's modern NBA, you gotta
Speaker 1: have guys that can make shots. So I think I
Speaker 1: think we might find some more of those in this
Speaker 1: draft than in recent years. The last thing I will
Speaker 1: say is the big wildcard to me is Darius Garland,
Speaker 1: point guard from Vanderbilt. Towards ACL five or six games
Speaker 1: into the season. I had their next game actually against
Speaker 1: NC State on ESPN right after he got hurt. It
Speaker 1: was their first full game. He got hurt a minute
Speaker 1: into the game prior. I think it was against Savannah State.
Speaker 1: They went on to win by a lot of Santah State,
Speaker 1: which just it was like watching a park game. But
Speaker 1: then they played NC State and talk and Bryce Drew,
Speaker 1: who no longer is the coach there, and I think
Speaker 1: this is the reason why you lose a point guard
Speaker 1: at this level. They built their entire offense around. Now
Speaker 1: they had Simmi Shit who was on the team too,
Speaker 1: and a freshman was the top fifteen freshman. But Garland
Speaker 1: and college basketball, is a guy that dominates the ball.
Speaker 1: Point guard, can make shots, change in direction, changes feed
Speaker 1: very very well, and everything was built around him. And
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt season just they completely fell apart. After that. They
Speaker 1: really struggled and I think they went win list in
Speaker 1: the SEC and Bryce Trew has lost that job. That said,
Speaker 1: Garland's that kind of player, He's that good. I'm interesting
Speaker 1: to seehere comes back. Was a knee injury that took
Speaker 1: him out. He could be a guy that could be
Speaker 1: great in the NBA. But I think just the amount
Speaker 1: of tape and the amount of reps, amount of experience
Speaker 1: he has at a little bit of at a higher level. Obviously,
Speaker 1: coming out of high school, he took a big step
Speaker 1: up going to an SEC team and didn't get the
Speaker 1: Riggers in the actual SEC season this year, which is
Speaker 1: really a good league. So Darius Garland's a guy that
Speaker 1: I think is going to be really interesting to see
Speaker 1: a where he goes. You know, what teams think of,
Speaker 1: what they're willing to what they're willing to invest in
Speaker 1: them with their pick, and then what kind of player
Speaker 1: he develops into, because I thought he could be special.
Speaker 1: When we've showed up on the scene in college basketball,
Speaker 1: we didn't get to see it, so we'll see it
Speaker 1: in the league. It's interesting because you could have a draft,
Speaker 1: like you said, where let's take twenty eighteen, there are
Speaker 1: a number of prospects that could be immediate impact difference
Speaker 1: makers for NBA teams, and there is a degree of
Speaker 1: fun seeing how that all shakes out in the lottery
Speaker 1: phase and stages of the draft. But then this year,
Speaker 1: like you said, like it almost seems like this is
Speaker 1: going to put the microscope more on front offices, personnel people,
Speaker 1: scouts to try and unearth some quality products that they
Speaker 1: could bring in and find the right fits on their rosters.
Speaker 1: You get the right we get the exactly what I
Speaker 1: was thinking. It is about fit. It's about knowing what
Speaker 1: you need, finding a guy that can fit in there
Speaker 1: and can give you something you want, you want to use,
Speaker 1: especially in a lottery pick. You want to get guys
Speaker 1: that can actually impact your first let you know, your
Speaker 1: first lineup, your first seven guys, if you will, But
Speaker 1: teams that are in the playoff hunt, you want to
Speaker 1: get a guy that can be a player for you,
Speaker 1: that can do something for it, that can provide something.
Speaker 1: So it really is about finding the right fit for
Speaker 1: your organization with that individual, and what do you think
Speaker 1: he's going to give you. And that's it's hard. It
Speaker 1: is not easy. I mean a lot of these things.
Speaker 1: The NBA draft had become almost purely on potential. That's
Speaker 1: why I did point to some of those older guys
Speaker 1: in the back half of the first round. I think
Speaker 1: you would feel safer going with them. They may not
Speaker 1: give you all star seasons, that they may give you
Speaker 1: some really good careers and particularly their first hit, and
Speaker 1: I give you something to help some of those teams
Speaker 1: in playoff time. It's interesting because Elton Brand has said
Speaker 1: this publicly for the seventy sixers that given where they're
Speaker 1: at in terms of the timeline of the franchise trying
Speaker 1: to contend for a conference championship and NBA championship. They're
Speaker 1: looking more for guys who could come in be a
Speaker 1: role player, have a maturity about their games, not necessarily
Speaker 1: being a four year player or a three year player,
Speaker 1: but just someone who is a mature overall demeanor on
Speaker 1: the court, that sort of thing. So I don't want
Speaker 1: to necessarily lead you with this question, but could this
Speaker 1: be the type of draft that is more suited for
Speaker 1: the seventy sixers needs right now compared to other years? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so. I think you're gonna get a number
Speaker 1: of guys that are going to be capable of stepping
Speaker 1: in and any guy and any kind that comes into
Speaker 1: the NBA to be a successful player. To be a
Speaker 1: guy that can come in and help a team, you
Speaker 1: have to have an at least one elite skill. You
Speaker 1: have to do one thing at a really high level.
Speaker 1: And and and some of those guys that are a
Speaker 1: little bit older to have two point maturity to their game.
Speaker 1: They've developed that one skill. Whether it's some guys like
Speaker 1: Cam Johnson that can really shoot it, or or Dylan Winler,
Speaker 1: a guy from Belmont who I think is gonna be
Speaker 1: a guy that it's a lefty that's six seventies got
Speaker 1: good length, really understands how to play the game and
Speaker 1: can really shoot it. Those type of guys I think
Speaker 1: are going to have famty factors in the draft in
Speaker 1: terms of the back end of the first round, the
Speaker 1: second round, but emerge as guys that can get in
Speaker 1: the lineup and really help teams because, as we've already said,
Speaker 1: the top end talent it's not that great. You're not
Speaker 1: having very many franchise changes in this draft, which you
Speaker 1: could still get a piece that helps you win games.
Speaker 1: That's what this is all about, all right. Maybe I
Speaker 1: don't feel totally entirely unprepared because said Cam Johnson and
Speaker 1: Windler on my list of people to ask you about today,
Speaker 1: semi encouraging, semi encouraging for me. Do you think there's
Speaker 1: also something to it where, hey, let's say you have
Speaker 1: five picks in the draft, like the seventy six ers
Speaker 1: due number twenty four and then four more in the
Speaker 1: second round. They're tied with Atlanta for the most picks
Speaker 1: in the draft when a team has that number that
Speaker 1: volume of draft picks. Is there also something we said
Speaker 1: for the fact of how they might be in certain
Speaker 1: spots to be able to influence the way the draft
Speaker 1: board ultimately shakes out whether they try to move up,
Speaker 1: move back, that type of deal. What's tough on you
Speaker 1: four those picks in the second round, So you might
Speaker 1: be able to affect the draft board as lights to
Speaker 1: the second round, and they affect the draft board and
Speaker 1: it relates to twenty twenty in a little bit. But
Speaker 1: I think when you have four picks in the second round,
Speaker 1: you're not able to swing a much of the draft,
Speaker 1: as Sick of the Cell Justis did a couple years ago,
Speaker 1: and then three, you know, three picks in the top
Speaker 1: poll was a thirty thirty three or something like that,
Speaker 1: So that that that carries more weight and carries more
Speaker 1: ability to to drive the conversation the draft. Overall, I
Speaker 1: think the Sixers can have something to be said about
Speaker 1: how the pretty much from pick twenty four their pick
Speaker 1: back to the end of the draft shakes out. But
Speaker 1: to really be a player in the front part, I
Speaker 1: don't think I really have a big effect there. From
Speaker 1: what you've been able to deserve from looking at the
Speaker 1: NBA game and then comparing that, obviously your in depth
Speaker 1: knowledge of college basketball, what do you think that Sixers
Speaker 1: needs are? In your opinion, you mentioned earlier with your
Speaker 1: limited bandwidth, Like when I'm in college of basketball season,
Speaker 1: it's college hoops, you know, twenty four to seven threes
Speaker 1: every single day because there's so many teams to focus on.
Speaker 1: Which is nice that our season ends used the first
Speaker 1: weekend in April, and then I get to turn my
Speaker 1: attention to the NBA and becoming really just watch it
Speaker 1: as a fan and as a basketball guy, which is
Speaker 1: which is great. So obviously I watched their playoff series,
Speaker 1: and I would say they need more shooting, any guys
Speaker 1: that can help space the floor, They need guys that
Speaker 1: can play without the ball. This is this is like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you, like a trigonometry question or something,
Speaker 1: what gibbons are we operating? And are we operating the
Speaker 1: world that Jimmy Butler, Tobias Harris, well, we know Simmons
Speaker 1: and indeed all four of those guys back on this
Speaker 1: roster next year. That is the question. You're right, and
Speaker 1: that's that's part of the really compelling, fascinating stories right
Speaker 1: in the seventy six ers and this draft class. There's
Speaker 1: a certain amount of this that you just won't know
Speaker 1: or at least have a definitive idea of until June
Speaker 1: thirtieth six o'clock rolls around, you know, all right, So Mike,
Speaker 1: given is if those four are staying, Here's my approach
Speaker 1: to it is that you need guys that You need
Speaker 1: guys that can shoot, you, Guys that can play off
Speaker 1: the ball. And I mentioned earlier you guys that know
Speaker 1: how to play, that can play off the ball and
Speaker 1: still be effective. I also think you need some energy guys.
Speaker 1: You need guys that can help manufacture some of their
Speaker 1: own baskets, whether that be hit the offensive boards, to
Speaker 1: set good screens, to be able to help your offense funk,
Speaker 1: help the offensive function better because I know you saw
Speaker 1: it latent games and time times with them get very
Speaker 1: bogged down and become very reliant on Jimmy Butler to
Speaker 1: go score. And why ald times you need that offit dog,
Speaker 1: and Butler proved that he could he could do it
Speaker 1: at a very high level. You still need other guys,
Speaker 1: so the course of all forty eight minutes of the
Speaker 1: game and eighty two games of regular season to put
Speaker 1: yourself in that position. So I think they're going to
Speaker 1: need guys shooters, Guys will play off the ball, Guys
Speaker 1: that hip high energy, can bring some energy and bring
Speaker 1: some stuff some two way guys to I think what
Speaker 1: they would be looking for not ball dominant players that
Speaker 1: need the ball in their hands to score, because I
Speaker 1: don't think on this team, you're probably not going to
Speaker 1: have the ball in your hands a lot. Just thinking
Speaker 1: of some recent mid twenty picks that come to mind
Speaker 1: who have affected playoff series. I mean even this year,
Speaker 1: Pascal Siaka. I'm probably gonna bring up another name that's
Speaker 1: tough for seventy sixers fans and a guy who's with
Speaker 1: the Sixers at the start of the season, Landry Shammitt,
Speaker 1: played well down the stretch of the year for the
Speaker 1: LA Clippers and into the first round of the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Who are some of the guys that jump out to you.
Speaker 1: I know you've floated a few names out there already,
Speaker 1: but if we look at the number twenty four pick,
Speaker 1: if there's a daln Cuff best available type big board
Speaker 1: thing in your mind, who are some guys that jump
Speaker 1: out to you? I'll give you a couple of guys.
Speaker 1: And these are guys, Yes I'm talking best available where
Speaker 1: if you're a Sixers fan, you're happy these guys are here.
Speaker 1: So I would think these guys might not be on
Speaker 1: the board, but if they're there, you should be pumped.
Speaker 1: Kelvin Johnson from Kentuck, he has one. He's a guy
Speaker 1: that he's coming out of a freshman, got good length,
Speaker 1: good athleticism, can really play well on transition. But if
Speaker 1: you want, you watch Kentucky a lot this year. He
Speaker 1: his numbers for forty minutes were fantastic. He was a
Speaker 1: very efficient, especially in a SEC play. They didn't run
Speaker 1: stuff for him hardly ever, like maybe maybe run a
Speaker 1: pin down or something. Occasionally he was able to. I
Speaker 1: said before, and this is gonna be the seeing with
Speaker 1: all these guys, play off the ball, manufacturers on offense,
Speaker 1: get on the offensive, glass, get out on transition, create
Speaker 1: some energy on the defensive end. And his and his
Speaker 1: shooting got better through the course of the year. So
Speaker 1: he can knock down a three. I think he needs
Speaker 1: to knock down a three more consistent at the NBA range.
Speaker 1: We'll see if you can do that. But he's he's
Speaker 1: a bit of us. He's a slasher. He's a guy
Speaker 1: that understands how to play within the context of other
Speaker 1: good players around him, which you always will learn to
Speaker 1: Kentucky how to fit into other great players around you,
Speaker 1: And I think he would be He'd be great if
Speaker 1: he's If he's there, these are this, I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: three if they're there. Guys, First, Can I jump in
Speaker 1: about him real quick? Yeah? So would he fit that
Speaker 1: description of a guy who he was only a freshman
Speaker 1: at Kentucky last year, who does have that mature vibe
Speaker 1: about his game? Would you put him in that category?
Speaker 1: I would. I think he's mature beyond his years. I
Speaker 1: think he really again understands how to play the game,
Speaker 1: and I think he's a competitor. When you watch him,
Speaker 1: the kids just wanted to win, and I think that
Speaker 1: was the unique knicks of this Kentucky team. It took
Speaker 1: a while for him to find themselves, but all those
Speaker 1: dudes gave them themselves because they wanted to win. And
Speaker 1: that's hard to do for guys that all come in
Speaker 1: as five star guys, all think they're wanting done dudes.
Speaker 1: But he competed. He played at a high level to
Speaker 1: play with the level of intensity and focus that you
Speaker 1: don't see a lot in freshman And I will say too,
Speaker 1: when this is part of the NBA Draft, is drafting
Speaker 1: on potential. So some of these guys, although I think
Speaker 1: they are a little more mature than they are, they
Speaker 1: may have only been one year. I'm speaking on both
Speaker 1: sides of an outs before I was saying, you want
Speaker 1: to have guys that are that have been around, that
Speaker 1: are that. There are some guys there that have been
Speaker 1: three four years in college and you kind of know
Speaker 1: what you're getting. I think you have a good sense
Speaker 1: of what Johnson is, but I think his upside is
Speaker 1: just a little bit more than you're going to get
Speaker 1: than guys like him Johnson, which I'm sure I'll bring
Speaker 1: up again because I like him, but that maybe a
Speaker 1: little more upside because of what Johnson has athletically. He's
Speaker 1: still young, he's still developing physically, and he has all
Speaker 1: the entangles that I think you on the player all right, cool,
Speaker 1: I like it. So some other names. Sorry I didn't
Speaker 1: mean to throw you off course, there no fire. The
Speaker 1: other guy with Nikil Alexander Walker from Virginia Tech. He's
Speaker 1: a sophomore. His game really develops. He can play off
Speaker 1: the ball. On the ball, he's better off the ball,
Speaker 1: to be honest. And when Justine Robinson, the point guard
Speaker 1: got hurt this year. He had to play more on
Speaker 1: the ball on it. I think that will benefit him
Speaker 1: in the long run. It's being more comfortable trying to
Speaker 1: lead a team and run an offense. But I don't
Speaker 1: think you don't want to ask him to do that.
Speaker 1: He's a guy that can. He's a knockdown shooter from
Speaker 1: the NBA range. He's really wiry. He's gotten stronger in
Speaker 1: his sophomore. You're able to go through some contact at
Speaker 1: the rim. He's got a good pull up game. His
Speaker 1: offensive game is really good. I think defensively he brings
Speaker 1: something too, but he's got when you play at the
Speaker 1: NBA level Physically. We'll see if he's able to battle
Speaker 1: with some of those guards. You're going to see night
Speaker 1: in the night out, and that'll be interesting. But I
Speaker 1: think he's a guy that if he's available, because again
Speaker 1: I think, as I said before, they need some shooting
Speaker 1: in the seventy six ers could use guys that gets
Speaker 1: faced the poor and knockdown shots. He could absolutely do that.
Speaker 1: And I'll give you a third name in that twenty
Speaker 1: four slot as Tyler Hero, another freshman that'll be coming
Speaker 1: out of Kentucky. Same thing in terms of very much
Speaker 1: mature better defender than people give him credit for. Absolutely
Speaker 1: outstanding shooter. He can really stretch it forward to the
Speaker 1: NBA level, and again you don't need to run much
Speaker 1: for and he's able to create offense by playing the
Speaker 1: right way, understanding angles. They ran a lot of They'd
Speaker 1: run a lot of baseline screens for him, and you
Speaker 1: could tell me he really understood how to come off
Speaker 1: screen still, which is an unreal and art that most
Speaker 1: players don't even know anymore special coming into college. But
Speaker 1: he was able to come off a lot of screens,
Speaker 1: create offense for himself or create clothes out situations and
Speaker 1: in those get into the lane finished for himself or
Speaker 1: more importantly, to facilitate for his teammates on this team.
Speaker 1: In the next level, whether it's the Sixers or elsewhere,
Speaker 1: he'll be a guy that can knock down spot up
Speaker 1: shots and at times being transition, he'll be hunting threes
Speaker 1: in transition. So he can have an impact for you
Speaker 1: coming off your bench, just flat out. Like I said
Speaker 1: at the beginning there, if you have an elite skill
Speaker 1: that I'll help you make that makes shoot an NBA player,
Speaker 1: he has an elite skill. He can knock down shots.
Speaker 1: I'm going to throw out this name because he was
Speaker 1: in Camden to work out for the seventy six ers
Speaker 1: on Monday, and seeing his name surface maybe late teens
Speaker 1: in some mocks, early to mid twenties and others. Lou
Speaker 1: Dort out of Arizona State. I know his shooting touch
Speaker 1: perhaps maybe not quite with the seventy six ers might
Speaker 1: need right now, but he seems to be a really
Speaker 1: physical guy with high energy who embraces competing defensively. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I loved him his physicality. He's a physical
Speaker 1: specimen six four about two twenty he is. He's built
Speaker 1: like a like a Greek god. I mean, he is
Speaker 1: an absolute, you know, grown man for his age and
Speaker 1: athletically he can really get up and down and you
Speaker 1: can use that body to score and transition. My concern
Speaker 1: with him is his ability to play and succeed off
Speaker 1: the ball and really understanding the game and shot selection.
Speaker 1: But you watched him in Arizona State, especially when they
Speaker 1: started to struggle. Everything was good for him early on,
Speaker 1: and he's getting twenty a game and they were playing
Speaker 1: some lesser competition and he was learning the college game,
Speaker 1: and he was playing in a high level. But when
Speaker 1: it got tough and he had other guys of you know,
Speaker 1: similar ilk athletically and you know, similar length or length,
Speaker 1: it's greater than his. He struggled at times, he would
Speaker 1: he would easily fall into the trap of taking a
Speaker 1: lot of tough shots forcing the issue, and he was
Speaker 1: better when the ball was in his hand. So I
Speaker 1: think that's why I keep coming back to teams to
Speaker 1: guys with this team being the seventy sixers, that need
Speaker 1: to be able to play with the ball in their hands.
Speaker 1: Because of those four dudes, you're not going to have
Speaker 1: You're not just walking the ball up the court. You're
Speaker 1: not getting on the wing in a nicer situation. You're
Speaker 1: not going maybe coming off a lot of ball screens
Speaker 1: where you're the primary option to make something happen. So
Speaker 1: I think I think you need guys that did excel
Speaker 1: off the ball, and Lukewor can learn how to do
Speaker 1: it better, for sure, and he's got the physical he's
Speaker 1: got great physical capabilities. But again I think you might
Speaker 1: want somebody that can come in and affect the group
Speaker 1: and fit into the group a little better than he
Speaker 1: may at this individual time. He's got he could be
Speaker 1: a really good NBA player. I'm just not sure he's
Speaker 1: a fit, as we said earlier, for this Sixers team
Speaker 1: at this time. I think another big question down that
Speaker 1: I've got about the seventy Sixers for this draft is, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they have the twenty fourth pick in the first round,
Speaker 1: but then they've got thirty three and thirty four early
Speaker 1: in the second round. In your mind, how much variance,
Speaker 1: how much disparity and talent potential do you see in
Speaker 1: those I guess really ten slots between twenty four and
Speaker 1: then once you get up to thirty three and thirty
Speaker 1: four early on in the second round. I don't think
Speaker 1: there's a ton and not in this draft, at least
Speaker 1: I think there's I think you're going to have guys.
Speaker 1: We keep saying the same things a little bit that
Speaker 1: fit for your guy may want you to pick a
Speaker 1: guy at twenty five verses thirty based on how the
Speaker 1: draft board has fallen out and what you need in
Speaker 1: your in your roster. Doesn't mean that guy at twenty
Speaker 1: five is way better than the guy at thirty three,
Speaker 1: or twenty four better than thirty four. I don't think
Speaker 1: there's a huge delta between those two. So and I
Speaker 1: do think the sixers can find good pieces. And you
Speaker 1: mentioned one guy before, Camra Johnson from North Carolina. I
Speaker 1: think he's going to be a really good pro with
Speaker 1: a great career. He's developed as a better defender. He
Speaker 1: was really slow footed earlier his career. When he's a
Speaker 1: pit and he's transferred to UNC, he's become a better devender,
Speaker 1: better positionally, understands concepts in the defensive end. He's got
Speaker 1: good length, but most importantly, he is a knockdown shooter
Speaker 1: again six eight sixty nine. He's tall and he doesn't
Speaker 1: waste any motion in his jump shot. I mean that
Speaker 1: thing catches. He catches, and you still see in college
Speaker 1: all the time people bring the ball down and that
Speaker 1: wasted motion gets you a chance from a good, a
Speaker 1: great shot to a now contested shot, or in the
Speaker 1: NBA he gets your shot blocked. So when you think
Speaker 1: about guys like Clay Thompson last night when he was
Speaker 1: rolling in that first half, when you watch him and
Speaker 1: that ball is caught up by his ear, he just
Speaker 1: shifts it right to the shot pocket up that it's
Speaker 1: never down. There's never a wasted motion, and cam Johnson
Speaker 1: has developed that where he catches it anywhere in his midsection,
Speaker 1: it's right up. There's no if he catches, there's no
Speaker 1: wasted motions. So he's able to get that shot up
Speaker 1: with length and at six nine, and he's got long
Speaker 1: arms to get that and shoot it over to defenders
Speaker 1: because doesn't only stand emotions. He's an outstanding shooter that's
Speaker 1: gotten better on the defensive end and can come in
Speaker 1: and helping and again space the floor. And I think
Speaker 1: that's a guy that you could find at thirty three
Speaker 1: that could be have some real value if he's still
Speaker 1: on the board. Another guy that I think is interesting
Speaker 1: that that should still be there. And I did a
Speaker 1: number of a couple of his games early in the
Speaker 1: year as Fiando Coop Kevin Gelly's Kenby mctumbo's nephew, and
Speaker 1: he's got great length from Florida State and Florida State's
Speaker 1: always got they run Leonard Hamilton runs nine, ten eleven
Speaker 1: guys at you, So you may not get a chance
Speaker 1: to see guys play the minute you want on the
Speaker 1: role they want, but he's he gives you good energy
Speaker 1: when he's on the court. You may have to rest
Speaker 1: him a little, but he's not was in the greatest shape,
Speaker 1: but you give him he gives you energy on the court.
Speaker 1: He's got great length over seven foot wingspan, can knock
Speaker 1: down shots when you close out, and was able to
Speaker 1: go buy and finish a little bit in the land.
Speaker 1: He's got touched, he can get on the offensive glass,
Speaker 1: and he's a good shopwalker like like his uncle was.
Speaker 1: So I think Kevin Gelly's a guy that's it's interesting
Speaker 1: that could be a unique fit if it maybe for
Speaker 1: the seventy six or so, it'd be more like how
Speaker 1: does he work and what the lineup is around him,
Speaker 1: But he would be a guy able to come in
Speaker 1: and could help, like I said before, manufacture his own
Speaker 1: offense and help you on the defensive end at times
Speaker 1: protect the rim. I think he needs to understand concepts
Speaker 1: a little better defensively, but he's gotten a lot of
Speaker 1: physical tools that you want him at end of the floor.
Speaker 1: You know you mentioned Darius Scarland a couple of minutes
Speaker 1: ago out of Vanderbilt and his injury at the start
Speaker 1: of the season. What about for a guy like Chumo Kiki,
Speaker 1: who obviously with Auburn that came such a huge story
Speaker 1: for them as they made their run deep into the postseason,
Speaker 1: who suffered an untimely injury at the end of the year. Yeah. Him,
Speaker 1: He's a really good player and his games developed, and
Speaker 1: he could be in your prototypical NBA three and D guy.
Speaker 1: I hope he comes back from his injury a one
Speaker 1: hundred percent. I hope he continues to learn to shoot
Speaker 1: the ball and then shoot the ball even at a
Speaker 1: more efficient clip as he started to and did throughout
Speaker 1: the second half of the SEC second half of a
Speaker 1: college basketball season. And he's a guy that can defend
Speaker 1: the perimeter. He's got good feet, good length. He's an athlete,
Speaker 1: athlete that can end interior wise, he's not he's long,
Speaker 1: he's not big, so and then well today's modern NBA,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's worried about really can getting posted
Speaker 1: up anymore. So he's a guy that can that can
Speaker 1: help you, that can protect the rim a little bit
Speaker 1: because hes got great length, just around seven four wingspan UM,
Speaker 1: and he's why are he's strong, He's got real quick jump.
Speaker 1: So he's a guy that I think could be interesting,
Speaker 1: um for a number of different teams. We'll see, you know,
Speaker 1: how his body recovers, But that's that's the question is
Speaker 1: what are you willing to invest in the pick when
Speaker 1: he just tours ACL in April and you're not going
Speaker 1: to see him play again until sometime early next season,
Speaker 1: and you're wondering, if, ifan, what can the contribution be.
Speaker 1: So with a guy like that, it's one of those
Speaker 1: things where you have four second round picks, maybe you
Speaker 1: take a flyer. I don't think I would do it
Speaker 1: in thirty three or thirty four. I think there's other
Speaker 1: good players you could get that that could help you
Speaker 1: and then kind of have a real feel and what
Speaker 1: they are right now. Somewhat because they put in more
Speaker 1: years consistently in college, also because they didn't get injured.
Speaker 1: I would opt for some other guys at that pick.
Speaker 1: But maybe in the later picks, look at a guy
Speaker 1: that co keek if he's still on the board. So
Speaker 1: begin to wrap this up, tell me a little bit
Speaker 1: more about Dylan Windler, who you referenced earlier out of Belmont.
Speaker 1: A kid that can just see can flat out shoot it.
Speaker 1: He's got really good length. He's a good rebounder as well.
Speaker 1: He'll get in there and mix it up a little bit.
Speaker 1: But again, the guy that understands the game Lefty can
Speaker 1: play on the playoff, played really well off the ball,
Speaker 1: better off the ball. They put him on the ball
Speaker 1: time just because he was at Belmont. He's the best
Speaker 1: player on the floor almost every game he played in
Speaker 1: seption of playing Murray State, when he play against John
Speaker 1: Rant and some of the other games they played, they
Speaker 1: played UCLA. They want at UCLA, which doesn't say anything
Speaker 1: because you say wasn't good as a team, but the
Speaker 1: US only has some NBA talent, and Dylan will win
Speaker 1: with the best player on the floor. Um. He can
Speaker 1: really knock down shots out pass the NBA range, a
Speaker 1: very good passer, really understands angles, able to able to
Speaker 1: make the right pass, libert on time and on target.
Speaker 1: And I think his length will help him on the
Speaker 1: defensive end. He's not he's not athlete. He's not really
Speaker 1: a gifted athlete. It's note in a lot of foot speed,
Speaker 1: a lateral speed. But his length will help him positionally
Speaker 1: defensively to hide some of those mistakes. He gets some
Speaker 1: passing lanes pretty well, anticipates well uh and needs to
Speaker 1: do that because again his lack of athleticism. But he's
Speaker 1: a he's a really really good basketball player. That's gonna
Speaker 1: be I think gonna be a good NBA player and
Speaker 1: have a good career. He'll be a lifetime guy coming
Speaker 1: off the bench, but he can have a great career,
Speaker 1: help teams second units and be a guy that can
Speaker 1: come in and be a difference maker. I think Eric
Speaker 1: pascal Um has a shot to go in the mid
Speaker 1: forties or is he looking potentially a little bit later
Speaker 1: For the veteran of Villanova. I think that's probably where
Speaker 1: he ends up going. Uh. This is a guy that
Speaker 1: that learned a lot about basketball and being a player
Speaker 1: and being a teammate over his career, and he started
Speaker 1: at four of them. I remember had a bunch of
Speaker 1: his games when he was a freshman. It was eight ten,
Speaker 1: Freshman Atlantic ten and Freshman of the Year with Tom
Speaker 1: mccora was coaching there. But literally, I talked about a
Speaker 1: green light. I'm this coming from a guy who used
Speaker 1: to chuck a lot of threes. This dude can shoot
Speaker 1: shooting shot it whenever he wanted as a freshman and
Speaker 1: just didn't. That was his obsession. I'm gonna get my
Speaker 1: shots up, I'm gonna get my points. But then he
Speaker 1: transfers over to Villanova and then gets in Jay Wright system,
Speaker 1: playing with other pros, and it's about winning. He learns
Speaker 1: how to play, learns how to defend better, give up
Speaker 1: his body at times, taking charges, getting into doing the
Speaker 1: dirty work trying to defensive rebound. He does have NBA range,
Speaker 1: he needs to be more consistent with a three point shot.
Speaker 1: He has to be tighter with the ball. He's able
Speaker 1: to create a little bit, but he can get real
Speaker 1: loose with the ball. I think if he works on that.
Speaker 1: He's got good physical tools. He's about six six two
Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty. He's got a good body, good length
Speaker 1: to him. He's a guy that could could potentially be
Speaker 1: a guy that could help you in the NBA. It's
Speaker 1: just it's gonna His development as an individual and as
Speaker 1: a man's really evident. So I think he'll be willing
Speaker 1: to take whatever role a team needs of him and
Speaker 1: do the best that he can to fill that role.
Speaker 1: And his role is past year was to be one
Speaker 1: of the dudes. Him and Phil Booth had to go
Speaker 1: and score every night, and it was a different role
Speaker 1: for him than it was before. At Villanova he started,
Speaker 1: he grew into it a little bit, and I think
Speaker 1: he got comfortable in that. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: he'll go back to what he was on the teams
Speaker 1: that won the championship the year before, where he'll just
Speaker 1: he'll do what is necessary, what is needed of him
Speaker 1: as an open make an open three. Is it defends
Speaker 1: somebody and has helped the helper, is it take a charge.
Speaker 1: He'll do whatever is necessary. So I think he's I hope,
Speaker 1: hope he finds a way to make it in the league.
Speaker 1: Like I said before, I think you need about one
Speaker 1: real elite skill helps you. I don't think he don't much.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that would be with him, but
Speaker 1: he's He's a kid that's I hope works out for
Speaker 1: him last but certainly not least got to bring him up.
Speaker 1: Of course, Miaoni tell people about his story and what
Speaker 1: his chances on draft night might be. I like the
Speaker 1: IVY League love Miaone from Yale left after's junior year.
Speaker 1: He was supposed to be he was gonna supposed to
Speaker 1: play at Williams. He's gonna be a D three player.
Speaker 1: Besides the postgrad for a year. Tape gets out on
Speaker 1: him after having a big AU tournament. James Jones at
Speaker 1: Yale offers sold me he offered him sight unseen. He
Speaker 1: saw the film, never saw him in person. That James
Speaker 1: has never offered anybody that before offered an opportunity to
Speaker 1: come play like that. Before he does, the kid ends
Speaker 1: up being player of the year in the league. This guy, now,
Speaker 1: I talked to you. I had their game. I had
Speaker 1: their IVY tournament game. They played Harvard and stuff. About
Speaker 1: twenty scouts there. But I had them back in December
Speaker 1: when they played in Miami and they beat Miami. He
Speaker 1: had like twenty nine nine and seventy the monster game
Speaker 1: and they're about fifteen scouts there too, because it was
Speaker 1: a who Paul event. Texas Tech played, Miami obviously played,
Speaker 1: there were NC State played. There were a number of
Speaker 1: reasons to be there. And talking to a bunch of
Speaker 1: scouts before they'd all had said, someone said, he's Do
Speaker 1: you think he's a draftable guy in mid second round?
Speaker 1: You know, I want to see if he can take over.
Speaker 1: I saw him last year. He's got really good length. Again,
Speaker 1: he's about six six, but he has about six nine
Speaker 1: six ten wings fan. He's an outstanding knockdown three point
Speaker 1: shooter and well passed the NBA range. So that's about
Speaker 1: twenty seven feet, but the question was canny takeover game,
Speaker 1: how does he handle the ball and kind of what
Speaker 1: kind of player is he? All around? More than just
Speaker 1: a shooter. And then they all those guys came out
Speaker 1: of watching that game like, oh man, this guy's definitely
Speaker 1: a draft sable guy. And I would check in with
Speaker 1: these dudes throughout the course of the year, and then
Speaker 1: more they watch and more they saw him. And I
Speaker 1: actually went to watch Yale quite a bit because i'd
Speaker 1: be up in Bristol and I was up there Wednesday, Thursday,
Speaker 1: Wednesday through Sunday, but Friday night we wouldn't have a game,
Speaker 1: so I would go down to Yale and watch him play.
Speaker 1: And there was always an NBA scout or two there three,
Speaker 1: and I would always talk to him and everyone came
Speaker 1: away impressed every single time, because once you see him
Speaker 1: in person, he's a little different, different than watching the film.
Speaker 1: He's got that lane, he's got an NBA body without
Speaker 1: a doubt, wide broad shoulders, it'll continue to grow into Athletically,
Speaker 1: he can dunk on your head, and he's got a
Speaker 1: really good understanding how to play the game. And I
Speaker 1: think the one thing he's got to change is he's
Speaker 1: got a good handle. He has to make the right decisions.
Speaker 1: It's decision making for him can get a little wayward,
Speaker 1: and a lot was asked at him at Yale that
Speaker 1: won't be necessarily asked to him at the next level.
Speaker 1: He'll be able to knock down a ton of threes
Speaker 1: because he's gonna be open playing on good teams. Where
Speaker 1: where he gets drafted, close out situation, he's excellent shot fake,
Speaker 1: wonderable pull up shot, fake, go to the side, knockdown
Speaker 1: a three shot fake, get in the lane, create for
Speaker 1: other people. Is where that next step needs to beat.
Speaker 1: And I think he'll make he'll get better at that. Um.
Speaker 1: I think he's going to have a really good NBA career.
Speaker 1: I was slightly surprised that he decided to stay in
Speaker 1: the draft. Is only a junior. I remember talk talked
Speaker 1: to him right before they played Harvard in the in
Speaker 1: the end in the IVY League tournament. He said, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna test the waters. We'll see how it goes, you know,
Speaker 1: And I'm not, you know, thinking anything before, but he was.
Speaker 1: He was out there early. He signed. The agent said
Speaker 1: he was staying right He same, staying in the draft early.
Speaker 1: It was it was months ago, wasn't around the deadline
Speaker 1: at all. So he fell feels confident in himself. He's
Speaker 1: a confident kid. He's a talented kid. Obviously, he goes
Speaker 1: up saying he's a smart kid. And I think he
Speaker 1: knows what he's capable of, and I think he knows
Speaker 1: what his potential can be. He's going to work for that,
Speaker 1: and I think if he has the right situation, he
Speaker 1: can have a really good NBA career because with the
Speaker 1: NBA right now is about you gotta build, makedown and
Speaker 1: make shots. He can do that and he can also
Speaker 1: defend them. So he's a he's a three and D
Speaker 1: type guy to this, you know, to the to the
Speaker 1: tens and now it's he make that next decision, next
Speaker 1: jump by getting in the lane and making the right
Speaker 1: decision with the ball in his hands. If you can
Speaker 1: do that, this kid is a really dangerous player. And
Speaker 1: if Philadelphia has the option to take him, opportunity to
Speaker 1: take him, you definitely should in one of the second
Speaker 1: round picks because he would absolutely help their team right now. Tremendous.
Speaker 1: Always great to talk college basketball or in general with
Speaker 1: Dalen Cuff about anything. An extra bonus to work in
Speaker 1: an appropriate not Forest Ivy League basketball question. Dalen, thanks
Speaker 1: so much, man, really enjoyed it. Anytime. Grand I'm going Yeah.
Speaker 1: I got to see Dalen Cuff play a lot when
Speaker 1: he was at Columbia in New York City. Awesome player,
Speaker 1: better dude, and now a tremendous analyst at ESPN. Just
Speaker 1: awesome stuff that he's done in the broadcasting field over
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. We appreciate him joining us
Speaker 1: on the podcast and giving us a outstanding primer on
Speaker 1: the draft this year, specific to the seventy six ers needs.
Speaker 1: Thanks for lou Dort for being a guy as well.
Speaker 1: Thank you always for listening. We'll have another episode of
Speaker 1: the broadcast next week, another Draft season edition of the Pods,
Speaker 1: So be on the lookout in your feets. See