WEBVTT - Draft Season: A Primer on Potential First, Second Round Fits 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:03.720 June is here, and that means pre draft workouts are 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:06.120 starting to pick up. I felt good, ha ha hard. 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:08.119 I was playing defense, ha ha hard, I was competing 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:10.600 and even making shots. We're gonna hear from Lou dort, 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:13.520 a projected first round pick out of Arizona State, who 0:00:13.560 --> 0:00:16.440 was in town for a workout, and ESPN College basketball 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:19.560 analyst Dalen Cuff, who weighs in with his draft thoughts 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:22.240 on the seventy sixers. There's a number of upper classmen 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:24.040 that really understand how to play the game where I 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:25.800 think they could help teams like Philadelpha. They can help 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:29.960 playoff contending teams. It is another draft season edition of 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:39.680 the broadcast coming up. As they say, better weather, who 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:45.440 gets better draft talk? Now, no one says that. I have, 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:51.040 for the record, never heard anyone make that connection whatsoever. 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:54.600 But I will tell you this a truism that on Monday, 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:57.560 June three, when the seventy sixers brought in their latest 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:01.000 group of prospects for a pre draft work count, the 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:03.560 weather was excellent. We had a great weekend here in 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:07.800 the Delaware Valley. Seventy degrees on Monday, just a very nice, 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:11.759 non humid time of the year. Also a great time 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:14.559 of the year to dive into the draft. We're gonna 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:17.640 hear from a Lou Dort out of Arizona State and 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:22.279 Dalen Cuff from ESPN all that is coming up. But first, 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:25.320 a reminder, as we normally offer you at the beginning 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:27.240 of every episode of the podcast, in case you are 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:30.520 a first time listener or you have yet to act 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:37.480 upon subscribing, please do subscribe right away, right now, fresh 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:40.959 audio content delivered to your podcast app whatever it may be, 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:45.400 on a regular basis. We encourage you to subscribe on 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:51.080 Apple podcasts, Google podcasts, tune in SoundCloud, whatever it might be. 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:54.080 Just type in six Ers Podcast Network and that will 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:58.720 take you to our feed. ESPN College Basketball analyst dare 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:03.240 I say expert Dalen Cuff with some thoughts and knowledge 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:05.400 in a minute or two. But first let us hear 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:08.520 from Lou Dort. He was one of six prospects the 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:12.160 seventy sixers had in for a workout on Monday, June third. 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:15.920 Also included in that group, Nas read out of LSU, 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:21.680 Terrence Davis from Mississippi, and of course Terry Harris, younger 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:24.919 brother of Tobias Harris, wrapped up his career at North 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:29.000 Carolina A and T so very spirited session inside the 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:33.160 seventy sixers practice facility on Monday, And here's what lou 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:34.960 Dort had to say afterwards when we caught up with 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:37.880 him courtside. All right, so here we are. Catch me 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:40.240 up to speed with what you've been doing so far 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:43.200 your predraft process. Oh, I've been working a lot on 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:46.679 my shot conditioning. I mean there's there's a lot of 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:49.280 way cuffs coming up for me, so I've worked on 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:51.720 my body and then stay in shape and then get 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:53.280 to get a lot of slipment to take care of 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:56.799 my body. So it's been pretty Yeah, specifically just workout 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:59.040 with the sixers. What did you feel good about? I 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:01.639 felt good how hard I was playing defense, how hard 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:04.799 I was competing and even making shots too. Yeah. Where 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:07.400 do you feel like your game, your body, your whole 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:10.720 package you're offering is most NBA ready? Oh? I felt 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:13.000 that's the way I compete. My body. I'm pretty strong, 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:15.359 strong guards. I feel like I can guard pretty well. 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:18.120 That's why there's not a lot of guards that's willing 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:21.200 to guard. So I'm one of them. And then I'm 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:23.680 just ready to compete and just run the floor. Finished 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:26.240 I'm easy basket and just just just play hard. You're 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:29.239 obviously someone who was highly recruited coming out of high 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:31.720 school and had a nice pipeline track record going into 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:34.359 college and Arizona State. Still, you went out there, led 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:36.680 the team and scoring decorated season. What do you think 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:38.880 allowed you to make an immediate impact last year? That's 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:41.800 really coaching staff for my teammates. I felt like that 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:44.640 that a lot of trusting me, even at first. I mean, 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:46.960 coach Shelley was the first one to tell me that 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:48.280 I had a chance to be a one and done. 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:50.520 And then the fact that he prepared me on on 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:52.280 the floor even off the floor, I mean, we got 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:54.480 just feel like we we worked a lot this year, 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:56.320 and I feel like I had a pretty good season 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:58.120 this past year. What do you think it was about 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:02.000 your scoring style specifically that was really so effective? Oh? Shoot, 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:03.640 the way that that I drive to the basket. I 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:05.640 felt like the fact that I was really big and 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:08.240 I had ad finished on a couple of guards that 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:09.960 was guarding me. So the fact that I could drive 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:12.320 to the basket and and making tough on the big 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:14.600 to block my shot or get to the free throw line, 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:16.960 and and nucking down some up and shots too. Have 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:20.359 you always been a strong, powerful guy? Have you putting 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:22.719 a lot of work on your body? Yeah, it started 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:24.480 like this, I mean just going up always. I was 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:26.080 always big, So it starting like this, and then I 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:28.520 add more skills to my game, be able to knock 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:30.520 down shots and be able to run the point and 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:33.240 get my teammates and balls to the decision to go 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:35.599 into the draft. What were some things that went through 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:37.800 your mind? What was making that decision? Like, I'm sure 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:40.080 it's not an easy thing too. Yeah. So, I mean 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:41.479 I just had to talk to my people in my 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:43.760 family and actually coach really, we'll ask you first one 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:45.600 to call me to his office and he told me that, 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:47.880 I mean, I think you ready, and then he doesn't 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:49.599 think that that I have to come back, so he 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:52.240 actually told me to leave. And then when when after 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:54.160 I heard that from him, I was it was really 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:56.560 easy for me to make my decision. It's crazy how 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:59.599 strong of a pipeline Canada has these days going to 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:01.920 the pros. Is there a point of pride for you 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:04.800 being from Camp? Oh yeah, definitely. I mean even though 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:07.320 and I'm from Montreal. Two so the fact that there's 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:09.160 not a lot of places from Montreal going out there 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:11.160 in the States and now being a disposition, I'm just 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:14.280 really pride to say that even to kiss from from 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:15.960 montsh'all have a chance. I was going to ask you 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:17.360 about that, because it's got to be a little bit 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:19.960 different than Toronto, where it seems like that seems been 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:22.159 coming along for a while, right, Yeah, I mean we 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:24.799 get we're really getting better. I feel like now Monshroald 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:28.200 in Ontario, Toronto is actually ran out of the competition. 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:30.279 It's about the same, and I just feel like we 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:32.200 keep coming up and then I feel like there's more 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:35.480 kiss from Monshal that that's gonna have a chance. It 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:38.479 was a really strong season for lou Dort with the 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:42.280 Sun Devils under head coach Bobby Hurley. Led the team 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:45.440 in scoring around sixteen per game, also average four and 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:47.880 a half rebounds, two and a half assists, one and 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:51.080 a half steals. He was PAC twelve Rookie of the Year, 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:54.320 All PAC twelve overall and the second team, and he 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:57.320 received an All Defensive Team in the PAC twelve nomination 0:05:57.480 --> 0:05:59.680 as well. Got to the free throw line a ton 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:05.000 a very strong, sturdy, explosive and physical player who got 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:08.560 to the rim on a regular basis, So Lou Dort 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:12.320 part of the seventy Sixers workout group on Monday, June third. 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.160 We're gonna dial with Dale and Cuff in just a second. 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:18.760 But first, if you are like me and you are 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:21.920 a parents, you are always looking to figure stuff out 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:25.320 there your kids can be involved in. Now. I've got 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:27.320 fourteen and a half month old twins, so they do 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:30.760 not yet qualify for this. However, if you have a 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:34.720 kid or multiple children between the ages of four and fourteen, 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:38.280 sign them up for the all new seventy six Ers 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:42.960 Kids Club presented by five Below. 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A lot of 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:31.200 workouts at the training complex this week, so it is 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:33.880 time of the podcast for us to further dive into 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:36.200 our draft prep. And for that, I gotta bring in 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:39.040 a guy who scarily, at this stage in our lives, 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:41.560 we can actually say we go back a ways, like 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:44.960 probably a decade worth of time. You see him on 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:47.920 ESPN all over their college hoops coverage. His name is 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:51.920 Dalen Cuff. He played at Columbia University. I did games 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:56.000 for Penn Dylan. What's up man? Not much Broan, Good 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:57.160 to be on with you, man. Yeah, I think it 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.400 might be more than a decade, but that is quite 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:01.520 a ways back. It's terrifying when you really look at 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:04.480 the timeline. I actually I feel like maybe towards like 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:07.080 my late twenties early thirties, I could like joke with 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:08.760 people and say, oh, you know, like I'm aging I'm 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:11.280 getting old. But now I actually feel when I say, like, 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.200 you know, we've had some sort of connection for about 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:14.800 almost a decade and a half, I can be like, 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:18.920 I do seriously feel old. Yeah, Unfortunately, that's just how 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:21.240 it goes. Everybody. You people told us set too. Everybody 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:23.440 tells you you're in college, like, enjoy those years. They 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:25.320 go by so quick. Then you're in your mid twenties. 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:26.800 I'll live it up. You don't have kids. Then you 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:28.880 start having kids. I start running people at a grandparents. 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:30.920 Enjoy it. Now. Everybody keep telling you about every step 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:32.880 of the way, and they just keep buzzing by every 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:35.760 every landmark. So here we are. You cannot outrun the clock. 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:39.960 You know, most times I feel somewhat intimidated when I 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:44.640 have conversations with college basketball experts and draft experts, because, 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:47.240 in full disclosure, when the NBA season is going on, 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:50.320 I feel like there's only so much bandwidth I've got 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:53.319 in my brain. That's a flaw, I admit, but it's 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:55.280 also the truth. One of the things that I like 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:58.000 about this is A, you are a very knowledgeable on 0:08:58.040 --> 0:08:59.880 top of it dude. But B I feel like there's 0:08:59.880 --> 0:09:02.800 a context where I can simply say to you, Dalen, 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:06.920 start me off. The seventy sixers playoff run ended about 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:09.880 two weeks ago. I need a draft primer. I feel 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:12.920 like I can be very comfortable asking you very basic 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:15.320 run of the milk questions before going into the granular. 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:17.880 So why don't we begin there. Just give me your 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:22.319 overall impressions thoughts as we zoom out to maybe thirty 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:26.040 thousand feet on what the two thousand nineteen draft pool 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:30.079 and draft class could be looking like. Just in general, 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:33.240 it's not a great draft. Let's just say that outside 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:35.080 of really the top three picks, and you could even 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:36.640 argue a little bit of the top two, which in 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:38.680 my mind are going to be Zion Williamson and John Murant, 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:40.280 and I don't think I have to explain anymore about 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:42.679 who those guys are. And maybe you throw on RJ. 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:45.079 Barrett in the mix. It's a bit of a crapshoot 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:46.840 after that, It's not It's not what we've seen a 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:48.760 couple of recent years. I've been some better drafts. You've 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:50.880 had some guys you could see six, seven, eight, nine 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:53.760 to ten that could that could be players that are 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:55.600 go to guys. Would be a guy like Jamal Murray 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:57.320 from a few years back that I know I was 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:00.120 really big on him. He's he's shown now the the 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:02.880 playoff level that he could kind of deliver at different times. 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:05.600 School guys like that I'm not sure exist in this draft, 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:08.560 so I really think it's a little bit weaker. That said, 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:11.120 I do think there's guys you can find. There's a 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.520 number of upper classmen that really understand how to play 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:15.760 the game, and I think will probably come around that later. 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:17.520 And we're talking about Philadelphia where I think they could 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:19.720 They could help teams like Philadelphia that could help plaoff 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:21.960 contending teams because they can give you something because they're 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:24.400 guys that can play maybe off the ball, that understand 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:25.839 how to play that he can give you energy, that 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:28.280 can make shots on In today's modern NBA, you gotta 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:30.080 have guys that can make shots. So I think I 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:31.720 think we might find some more of those in this 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.760 draft than in recent years. The last thing I will 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:38.000 say is the big wildcard to me is Darius Garland, 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:41.600 point guard from Vanderbilt. Towards ACL five or six games 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:44.640 into the season. I had their next game actually against 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:48.480 NC State on ESPN right after he got hurt. It 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:50.240 was their first full game. He got hurt a minute 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:52.559 into the game prior. I think it was against Savannah State. 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:54.319 They went on to win by a lot of Santah State, 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:57.560 which just it was like watching a park game. But 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:00.520 then they played NC State and talk and Bryce Drew, 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:02.040 who no longer is the coach there, and I think 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:03.800 this is the reason why you lose a point guard 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:06.080 at this level. They built their entire offense around. Now 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:08.520 they had Simmi Shit who was on the team too, 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:11.120 and a freshman was the top fifteen freshman. But Garland 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:13.320 and college basketball, is a guy that dominates the ball. 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:16.640 Point guard, can make shots, change in direction, changes feed 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.760 very very well, and everything was built around him. And 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:23.280 Vanderbilt season just they completely fell apart. After that. They 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:25.480 really struggled and I think they went win list in 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:28.720 the SEC and Bryce Trew has lost that job. That said, 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:31.520 Garland's that kind of player, He's that good. I'm interesting 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:33.160 to seehere comes back. Was a knee injury that took 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:35.880 him out. He could be a guy that could be 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:38.520 great in the NBA. But I think just the amount 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:40.559 of tape and the amount of reps, amount of experience 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:42.760 he has at a little bit of at a higher level. Obviously, 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:44.400 coming out of high school, he took a big step 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:46.080 up going to an SEC team and didn't get the 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:48.439 Riggers in the actual SEC season this year, which is 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:50.839 really a good league. So Darius Garland's a guy that 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:52.400 I think is going to be really interesting to see 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:54.760 a where he goes. You know, what teams think of, 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:56.400 what they're willing to what they're willing to invest in 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:58.080 them with their pick, and then what kind of player 0:11:58.080 --> 0:11:59.920 he develops into, because I thought he could be special. 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:02.320 When we've showed up on the scene in college basketball, 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:04.199 we didn't get to see it, so we'll see it 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:06.960 in the league. It's interesting because you could have a draft, 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:10.400 like you said, where let's take twenty eighteen, there are 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:13.360 a number of prospects that could be immediate impact difference 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.440 makers for NBA teams, and there is a degree of 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:19.280 fun seeing how that all shakes out in the lottery 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:21.640 phase and stages of the draft. But then this year, 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.240 like you said, like it almost seems like this is 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:29.240 going to put the microscope more on front offices, personnel people, 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:33.880 scouts to try and unearth some quality products that they 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:37.400 could bring in and find the right fits on their rosters. 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:39.840 You get the right we get the exactly what I 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:42.480 was thinking. It is about fit. It's about knowing what 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:44.920 you need, finding a guy that can fit in there 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:46.800 and can give you something you want, you want to use, 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:48.960 especially in a lottery pick. You want to get guys 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:51.040 that can actually impact your first let you know, your 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:54.640 first lineup, your first seven guys, if you will, But 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:56.520 teams that are in the playoff hunt, you want to 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:58.320 get a guy that can be a player for you, 0:12:58.320 --> 0:12:59.960 that can do something for it, that can provide something. 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:01.400 So it really is about finding the right fit for 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:04.160 your organization with that individual, and what do you think 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:06.520 he's going to give you. And that's it's hard. It 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:08.079 is not easy. I mean a lot of these things. 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:11.080 The NBA draft had become almost purely on potential. That's 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:12.760 why I did point to some of those older guys 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:14.559 in the back half of the first round. I think 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:16.800 you would feel safer going with them. They may not 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:18.760 give you all star seasons, that they may give you 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:20.880 some really good careers and particularly their first hit, and 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:23.240 I give you something to help some of those teams 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:27.280 in playoff time. It's interesting because Elton Brand has said 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:30.600 this publicly for the seventy sixers that given where they're 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:33.320 at in terms of the timeline of the franchise trying 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:37.360 to contend for a conference championship and NBA championship. They're 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:41.400 looking more for guys who could come in be a 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.600 role player, have a maturity about their games, not necessarily 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:47.320 being a four year player or a three year player, 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:49.800 but just someone who is a mature overall demeanor on 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:52.360 the court, that sort of thing. So I don't want 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:54.400 to necessarily lead you with this question, but could this 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:56.880 be the type of draft that is more suited for 0:13:57.120 --> 0:14:02.440 the seventy sixers needs right now compared to other years? Yeah, 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:04.640 I think so. I think you're gonna get a number 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:07.840 of guys that are going to be capable of stepping 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:09.760 in and any guy and any kind that comes into 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:12.040 the NBA to be a successful player. To be a 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.120 guy that can come in and help a team, you 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:16.559 have to have an at least one elite skill. You 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:18.800 have to do one thing at a really high level. 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.280 And and and some of those guys that are a 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.400 little bit older to have two point maturity to their game. 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:26.520 They've developed that one skill. Whether it's some guys like 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:30.760 Cam Johnson that can really shoot it, or or Dylan Winler, 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:32.360 a guy from Belmont who I think is gonna be 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:34.280 a guy that it's a lefty that's six seventies got 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:36.640 good length, really understands how to play the game and 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:38.680 can really shoot it. Those type of guys I think 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.800 are going to have famty factors in the draft in 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:43.360 terms of the back end of the first round, the 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:45.400 second round, but emerge as guys that can get in 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:48.680 the lineup and really help teams because, as we've already said, 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:50.280 the top end talent it's not that great. You're not 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:52.960 having very many franchise changes in this draft, which you 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:55.720 could still get a piece that helps you win games. 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:57.680 That's what this is all about, all right. Maybe I 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:01.160 don't feel totally entirely unprepared because said Cam Johnson and 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:04.040 Windler on my list of people to ask you about today, 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:08.880 semi encouraging, semi encouraging for me. Do you think there's 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:11.440 also something to it where, hey, let's say you have 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:13.760 five picks in the draft, like the seventy six ers 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:16.000 due number twenty four and then four more in the 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:18.680 second round. They're tied with Atlanta for the most picks 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.880 in the draft when a team has that number that 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:24.480 volume of draft picks. Is there also something we said 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:26.840 for the fact of how they might be in certain 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:29.320 spots to be able to influence the way the draft 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:31.960 board ultimately shakes out whether they try to move up, 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:35.760 move back, that type of deal. What's tough on you 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:38.360 four those picks in the second round, So you might 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:40.360 be able to affect the draft board as lights to 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:42.480 the second round, and they affect the draft board and 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:44.360 it relates to twenty twenty in a little bit. But 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:46.800 I think when you have four picks in the second round, 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:49.200 you're not able to swing a much of the draft, 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:50.840 as Sick of the Cell Justis did a couple years ago, 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:52.760 and then three, you know, three picks in the top 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:55.240 poll was a thirty thirty three or something like that, 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:57.560 So that that that carries more weight and carries more 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:01.080 ability to to drive the conversation the draft. Overall, I 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:02.880 think the Sixers can have something to be said about 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:06.000 how the pretty much from pick twenty four their pick 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:07.760 back to the end of the draft shakes out. But 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:10.520 to really be a player in the front part, I 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:12.760 don't think I really have a big effect there. From 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:15.120 what you've been able to deserve from looking at the 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:18.520 NBA game and then comparing that, obviously your in depth 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:21.440 knowledge of college basketball, what do you think that Sixers 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:25.640 needs are? In your opinion, you mentioned earlier with your 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:28.000 limited bandwidth, Like when I'm in college of basketball season, 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:30.960 it's college hoops, you know, twenty four to seven threes 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:33.640 every single day because there's so many teams to focus on. 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:35.680 Which is nice that our season ends used the first 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:36.960 weekend in April, and then I get to turn my 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:39.080 attention to the NBA and becoming really just watch it 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:40.800 as a fan and as a basketball guy, which is 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:43.240 which is great. So obviously I watched their playoff series, 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:45.960 and I would say they need more shooting, any guys 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:47.920 that can help space the floor, They need guys that 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:50.360 can play without the ball. This is this is like 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:52.520 I'm gonna ask you, like a trigonometry question or something, 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:54.640 what gibbons are we operating? And are we operating the 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:57.440 world that Jimmy Butler, Tobias Harris, well, we know Simmons 0:16:57.440 --> 0:16:59.120 and indeed all four of those guys back on this 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:02.200 roster next year. That is the question. You're right, and 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:05.479 that's that's part of the really compelling, fascinating stories right 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:07.680 in the seventy six ers and this draft class. There's 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:10.080 a certain amount of this that you just won't know 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:13.119 or at least have a definitive idea of until June 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:16.959 thirtieth six o'clock rolls around, you know, all right, So Mike, 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:19.720 given is if those four are staying, Here's my approach 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:21.800 to it is that you need guys that You need 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:23.439 guys that can shoot, you, Guys that can play off 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:25.560 the ball. And I mentioned earlier you guys that know 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:26.800 how to play, that can play off the ball and 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:29.000 still be effective. I also think you need some energy guys. 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:31.119 You need guys that can help manufacture some of their 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:33.920 own baskets, whether that be hit the offensive boards, to 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:36.840 set good screens, to be able to help your offense funk, 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:39.400 help the offensive function better because I know you saw 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:41.959 it latent games and time times with them get very 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:44.679 bogged down and become very reliant on Jimmy Butler to 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:47.680 go score. And why ald times you need that offit dog, 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:49.840 and Butler proved that he could he could do it 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:52.720 at a very high level. You still need other guys, 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:54.200 so the course of all forty eight minutes of the 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:56.240 game and eighty two games of regular season to put 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:58.359 yourself in that position. So I think they're going to 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:00.880 need guys shooters, Guys will play off the ball, Guys 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:02.840 that hip high energy, can bring some energy and bring 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:05.080 some stuff some two way guys to I think what 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:08.480 they would be looking for not ball dominant players that 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:10.119