1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: Good afternoon. This Istil Henderson from We Be on House. 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: Our show is about lifting the voices of unhoused people 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: through their survival challenges that we face out here in 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: the street, mainly from police, society, as well as our 5 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: health and basically our livelihood. So today we're going to 6 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: talk about vigilantism. But before we get launching into vigilantism, 7 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: we're going to describe what vigilanteism means. Webster's paraphrase definition 8 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: means that there has to be an injustice done. Many 9 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: people think of unveagulantism as in the tone of Batman, 10 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: he lost his parents at eight years old, so he 11 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: prowls the streets and beating up on criminals. Many of 12 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: our society shares that same issue with unhoused people, that 13 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: we are criminals that should be beaten up on by ordnances, 14 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: violence as basically death threats and any of the like. 15 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be violence, but it also could 16 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: be a targeted campaign. Studies have long shown that unhoused 17 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: people are much more likely to be victims of violent 18 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: crime than a house people. But the LAPD doesn't specify 19 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: or have specific records of vigilantes among the unhoused. Why 20 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: is that partly because the on house are afraid of 21 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: the copts because they are legislating it. In the past 22 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: couple of years, that has been a dramatic uptick of 23 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: violent crimes against unhoused individuals, from arson, harassment, vandalism, stabbings, assault, 24 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: I've had those. All of this has been on their 25 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: rides against dead House. You may remember in August when 26 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: an unhoused resident encampment was set on fire by two men, 27 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: including the son of a local Chamber of Commerce president. 28 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: That was an intentional vigilante attack and a murder attempt 29 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: in Ego Oca. One of the most important ones that 30 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: it's all over the world is Henrik Zildahrik, who was 31 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: shot for asking for thirty two cents. That was out here, 32 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: shot by a house residence for asking panhandling. So today 33 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: we're going to talk to several people about their own 34 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: experiences battling vigilanteism. Today we will hear from Harvey. Harvey 35 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: is a resident from l Play Blow, Chinatown. He's right, 36 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: you're the Mary Garcettes forty five unhoused into homes, which 37 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 1: is still a joke, and he has been on housed 38 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: for over ten years and he basically has dealt with 39 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: unhoused vigilanteism for a long time. He's a veteran at it. 40 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: And we will hear from several people in the Echo 41 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: Park in the Lake, and my prominent guest is Freddy 42 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: from Echo Park who was almost killed when Amady was 43 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: thrown in his tent. Doctor King has stated is very 44 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: very true. We may all come from different boats, but 45 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: we're all in the same boat now and unhoused people. 46 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: Despite our diversity of reasons we became unhoused, we shared 47 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: the same thing. We've been harassed by unhoused vigilanteism. I've 48 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: covered different guests, for example Freddy because his is the 49 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: most prominent and extreme and the lack of police responds 50 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: to it unless after public outcry in a way to 51 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: force the police to come to interview him prompted a 52 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: lukewarm response. I too have had different attacks as well 53 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: as the people Echo Park by the Lake do many times. 54 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: Why it is not reported is unhoused people are afraid 55 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: of police because they're coming with a gun and stick 56 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: on their hip, and they're are usually telling them to 57 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: turn down their tents or face arrest or face death. 58 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: So there is why it's not reported as very substantative. 59 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: The police community policing is only set for business improvement 60 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: district who calls and sends up a thirty minute meeting 61 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: on why an unhoused person should be in their community. 62 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of George Hugh's Business Improvement District meeting that's 63 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: heavily attended by park rangers, lape prosecutors and that kind 64 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: of thing. And he launches this reason as an occupational hazard, 65 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: but he fails to realize the occupational hazard is has 66 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: death a leaf of measures for unhoused residents, So how 67 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,839 Speaker 1: much about occupy has it when he drives off into 68 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: his expensive home where we have to fend for our lives, 69 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: for just surviving and just being on house. One thing 70 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: in common with vigilanteism is that the believer that perpetuates 71 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: violence is they believe that they're right in it, and 72 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: they believe that they have the authority to do this 73 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: and the support of the city, the police, and anyone 74 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: that feels that their cause is just. So. Today, we're 75 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: going to interview a survivor and get his intake on 76 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: his experiences without Herbert do let me welcome you to Freddie. Hello, Freddie, Hello, 77 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: thank you for having me here, and I'm very humble 78 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: through being here. Let's start off a little bit ease 79 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,679 Speaker 1: with some lighthearted questions. How did you become a house 80 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: My wife passed away one year ago and we shared 81 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: all the pencils and from then on it went to 82 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: downard spine boat. So I'm very sorry to hear about 83 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: the passing of your wife. Has it been easy to 84 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 1: be able to survive out here with the loss of 85 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: your wife? At first? Know now is I don't want 86 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: to say I'm getting used to it because I don't 87 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: want to be used to it. But it's getting better. 88 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: It's getting much better. I get to know people now 89 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: and they helped me out a lot. There's always a 90 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: silver lining. How long have you been on house? Four months? 91 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: I believe it or not? Okay? What was your first 92 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: time like when you became unhoused? Not knowing what's going 93 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: to happen, A little bit scared, but not fearful of anything, really, 94 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: just scared what's going to happen to myself and my 95 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: two cats. What can you tell someone that is about 96 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: the virtue of being on house? What would you give 97 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: with techniques or tactics? To use before it ever happens. 98 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: Try to get some type of connection with people will 99 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: help out with the homeless organizations that help them out 100 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: to get housing before they even step onto the street, 101 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: and there's some possibility that they can get into the 102 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: list rather quickly. What are some things that if you 103 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: think that people misunderstand about unhoused people. Oh wow, that's 104 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: a good one, and yes, probably elaborate on that one. 105 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: We're generalized as criminals, we're generalized as drug addicts, we're 106 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: generalized as alcoholics, and on the above we're not all 107 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: that where a lot of us are decent people. We 108 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: just fell on hard times. I have a creative question, 109 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: so bear with me. If you could have a billboard, 110 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: if anything on it about being on house on it, 111 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: what would it be? What would the billboard though? What 112 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 1: would the billboard to say, I'm human to me with 113 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: diignating respect? Please? How helpful are the police when you 114 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: were attacked? Let's talk up first, Let's take a step back. 115 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the time that you were attacked. But 116 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: the vigil egenm So tell, let's take your time. I 117 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: was reading a book, a hardcover book at that the 118 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,239 Speaker 1: newspaper sent was a soft cover and there was actually 119 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: hardcover something that they told me to rearrange my previous tent, 120 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: which is a much bigger one than when I have 121 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: now thanks to Jed and something told me rearrange it, 122 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: make it more ample for you and your to free kids. 123 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: And I was trying to go to see by reading 124 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: the book my youngest kid, she has made like a 125 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: space for my perfectly for my head. My other one 126 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: was in the milk crate. Then I just picked up 127 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: on the streets andwhere so I could make a bed 128 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: for them and rather comfortable for and I would sleep 129 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: with my head on the side where the MD was thrown. 130 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: That night, people snapped. I heard a V eight engine 131 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: revenue and within seconds of it taken off, the expellion hit. 132 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: I don't know what would happened, but for sure, if 133 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: it wasn't hopefully it wasn't many bigger, it could have 134 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: killed me, for one, and that would have been the 135 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: best case scenario. And people are gonna say, what do 136 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: you mean. I could have wand up a vegetable, I 137 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: could have wand up caudriplegic. I'm blind for life, half 138 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: my face torn out, uh death or all the above 139 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: in a combination. So do I believe this was against me? 140 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: Not in the least. No, I believe it was against 141 00:08:54,400 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: a homeless or any homeless. Hell, yes, I was a 142 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: very scary time. What how did you contact a police 143 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: about this? Somebody contacted them before me. I believe it 144 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: was the fire department, as you asked before. Did they 145 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: do much on the scale of one to ten, I'll 146 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: give them maybe barely a five? Why do you give 147 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: them a five? All black and white did show up 148 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: and they told me that a detectives would come the 149 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: next day. Remind you to take a report from me. Well, 150 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: I waited four to five days after they didn't show up, 151 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: So I started trying to get back into my daily 152 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: groove and I do post me get some stobacco money 153 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: for myself, right, and I went on a run on 154 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: a delivery and sure enough, but don't you know, they 155 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: left me a card on my tent. I called them 156 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: immediately so they can come back either that same day 157 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: or with the next two days, which will be forty 158 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: eight hours because the cameras are here only have a 159 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: five day lifespan of memory. Well, this is about three 160 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: weeks ago and I'm so waiting. That's that's horrible and 161 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: that's sadden. Can you give us a brief instance on 162 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: what your tent looked like? And why did you choose 163 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: a tent? Why didn't you just choose a sleeper bed rod? 164 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: Okay reading being I told the tim because I have 165 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: two cats, I don't want them running into traffick and 166 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: getting killed. And they're actually my emotional support animals. I 167 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: have paperwork for them. My tent I turned them was 168 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: a big one that was given to me for my birthday. 169 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: It was a surprise, a beautiful tent, big for four people. 170 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: And the night it happened, the night it was growing 171 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: up and left the three and a half point white 172 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: diameter the home. I'm the NMT that was thrown at 173 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: my tent. As I said before, I'm very lucky. My 174 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: head wasn't that any one it usually was? Has a 175 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: vigilante attacks affect how you sleep or any of your 176 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: change of habits. Absolutely, can't you give a explain it? 177 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: Sure to this day, every time I hear a B 178 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: eight Indian ready en, it startles me and I open 179 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: up all the all the opening so I can see 180 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: who's around. If I hear puts the too close to 181 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: my tent, which I I do, but when I see 182 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: the shadows staying too long around my tent, it startles 183 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: me off. So I believe I might have some PTSD. 184 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: Hell yes, okay, that's very very good question. And one 185 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: of my other questions I have about the tent is 186 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: did you choose to stay in Echo Part for a 187 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: certain reason? And why did you choose Echo Park? Actually 188 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: at the opposite end of the tunnel where I'm stained, 189 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: I used to be the manager with my late wife, 190 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: so it's like a connection, and I actually do enjoy 191 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: Echo Park as it is now needs to be a 192 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: very deeper spot, and now it's aside from all the 193 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: winnings against homeless people, it's a great place. You were 194 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: a manager. Where were your manager at apartment building? Were 195 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: at the end of the tunnel. So what happened to 196 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: get you to become out of the street. I know 197 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: one day you didn't look out at Echo Parker says 198 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: having a lovely building and says I'm going to become 199 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: a homeless and live out of the tent, to get 200 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: thrown a grenade grown at him. I was evicted, to 201 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: tell the truth, Plus had a fallout with the owners. 202 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: I wasn't paid for fifteen months and I really legally 203 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 1: I can't get too much more into that. So that's 204 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: what happened there. Yeah, okay, so I'm vigilant. Most people 205 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: that come into living on house, they usually stay in 206 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: the area that they're familiar with or they used to reside. Conversely, 207 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: that's why I stay in Chinatown. I used to reside 208 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: there before I was evicted. It's not a very Uh, 209 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: most of on house people stay in their areas that 210 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 1: they are comfortable with and have built a community with. 211 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: So is this true to you as well as it 212 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: is absolutely trus Yeah. So again this is an issue 213 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: about on house experience in vigilante attacks. So when we 214 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: talked about vigilanty attacks, most people look at the old 215 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: Western ideas where there is this bad guy with this 216 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: in black and the good guy whereas white and he's 217 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: coming in to save the day and gets the girl. 218 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: But most often or not, most vigilantes are people that 219 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: have houses, that have job and they don't like unhoused 220 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: people because they believe that they are eyesore or drug 221 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: addices or they're going to attack their children and they 222 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: deserve and wonder why the police haven't put them in 223 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: jail or moved them away. That's wish prompts a lot 224 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: of different Facebook groups and their next door applications and 225 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: things of that nature to attack unhouse people. What do 226 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: you know about the ordinance of forty one to eighteen, 227 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: I'm look good about it. If that's the one where 228 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: they're making homeless people look like secondary criminals or secondary citizens, 229 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: then they know something about it, but not much see 230 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: for the audience. The forty one eighteen is an ordinance 231 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: that's being discussed by the city and been pushed by 232 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: the mayor and the Board of Supervisors and as ordinances 233 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: to criminalize people that live in their tents near schools, 234 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: theay cares, and anywhere they can't seek sleep or lie 235 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: near any of these bridges or tunnels and in the like. 236 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: And if you are caught with that then you will 237 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: be faced some heavy legal penalties. So it is the 238 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: one that I know about that. As I said, we're 239 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: not second rate citizens. I was born here in the 240 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: United States. I even served my country for a for 241 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: a while. There wasn't much, but I served. I am 242 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: a citizen, okay, And for them and for the rest 243 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: of us to be treated or for the homeless to 244 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: be treated as criminals. It's just not right, it's not constitutional. 245 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: Do you thank this ordinance and such things like the 246 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: Marits care teams and the police involvement with the vigilante 247 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: attacks because some of the groups that we had on 248 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: Facebook you may not be aware, or you may be aware, 249 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: have police officers supporting some of the vigilante attacks. For example, 250 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: where the A posts where see your lead officer Sean 251 00:15:53,680 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: Denissi was supporting tacit quietly or subtly a visual throwing 252 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: ice cubes at a homeless person and saying the evidence 253 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: will melt and he just basically chuckled and laughed. Or 254 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: where there's unhoused people are under tunnels to blow their 255 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: horns and things like that. So what do you how 256 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: much you think forty one eighteen would make vigilanteism a 257 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: bigger thing, very much bigger. It's just going to give 258 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: them an unauthorized bad to do even more damaged. Are 259 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: you aware that the LAPD are currently seeking volunteers to 260 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: join up to patrol the areas like that? It doesn't 261 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: surprise me. So here we are today and we're speaking 262 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: with a Freddie at a cafe here at our studio 263 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: to discuss about his experiences with vigilanteism. I'm Theo Henderson 264 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: with Chinatown street Watch. I have a couple more questions 265 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: for you. Do you know any of your other friends 266 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: or anything have been attacked as well? I know some 267 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: of the people. I am trying not to know them 268 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: too much for certain reasons. I'm not going to mention. 269 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: H No, I haven't. I've only heard one attack on 270 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: another woman's person right here. I heard they were almost down, 271 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: but they weren't. That's as far as I went. But 272 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: that's farnum. I agree. So thank you for listening, our listeners, 273 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: and maybe we again meet in a light of understanding. 274 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: Thank you. That was my conversation with Freddie g and 275 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: then How's resident of Echo Park. For the next segment 276 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 1: of the show, I went to Echo Park near the 277 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: Lake to mix with several people and we had a 278 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: roundtable discussion about their own experiences with vigilantia. The Good Afternoon. 279 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: This is Stele Henderson from street Watch Chinatown right now, 280 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: I'm in Echo Park getting the experiences that we have 281 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: out here in the house, and we found out we 282 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: have a lot in common. We are harassed down in 283 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: Chinatown just like they're harassed here. So it seems like 284 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: all of the police are doing working together to harass 285 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: unhouse people. And in this studio today is a couple 286 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: of new people, new friends of mine. I'm going to 287 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,239 Speaker 1: start off with the names. Hit it God. My name 288 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: is Toddity aka Todd Robert Miller. My name is Terrence. 289 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: Come now, okay, this is my group of friends. So 290 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to go buy the uh do a group thing, 291 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: and then I'm going to break it down for an 292 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: individual thing. So I'm going to ask them some general questions. 293 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: What is it like to be on housed out here home? 294 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: I try to look at it in a way that 295 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 1: I can live wherever I want and I will never 296 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: have to actually hold myself responsible for anybody else. What 297 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: is it like to be on? How I got dropped 298 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: here from a fifty one to fifty program through the 299 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: government that was under a waiver program when they were 300 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: charging four thousand dollars just give me fruit cocktail, and 301 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: I realized how aft up it was, so I decided 302 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna break out. So I broke out. My friend 303 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: Sentino from Argentina just dropped me off here at the 304 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: lake and said, Todd, it's all you. I'm done. What 305 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: are you gonna do? And I said, I have big plans. 306 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: I started realigning my mind and thinking about my space 307 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: that I have on this planet and looking how I 308 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: need to utilize this little area that somebody gave me 309 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: and take care of it and utilize it to the utmost. 310 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: I never would have done that if I'm fucking hanging 311 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: out with my friend at the studio, fucking excuse my language, 312 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: all the fucking homies that a badass LBC rap, and 313 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: it's like, dude, can you just slow down for a second. 314 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: So this that I have called multiple scross three three 315 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: years had made me slow down and just really realize 316 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: and respect everything around me. That's it. So how did 317 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: you become homeless? Moment a domestic and I find myself 318 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: in Egle Park, unhealthy, very depressing, but I'm still surviving. 319 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,959 Speaker 1: Taught me one, how did you come homeless? I've been 320 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: on this street for a year. I just got kicked 321 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: out of a family for stupid reasons and moved around 322 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: so many times from Boston and came into La to 323 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: follow my dream. And we're getting there slowly. But surely 324 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: thank you. Guys. We all seem to have one thing 325 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: in common. We all seem to be able to connect 326 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: with one another and look out for each other. That's 327 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: one thing I noticed in every unhoused plot spot. If 328 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: you've gone in Lincoln Heights, you will see it. You 329 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: go to Chinatown, you go to a playblow. We all 330 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: seem to be a band together. So have you guys 331 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: have heard about the vigilante attacks or unhoused people? So 332 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: what are you guys thoughts on that? Uh, that they're 333 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 1: targeting the wrong people, that's not what vigilanteism is, finding 334 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: a tyrannical aspect of getting that's tyrannical and getting rid 335 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: of it through your own means. But they think that 336 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: they are doing a good shop or doing the things 337 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: that the city won't do. They're engaging in violent acts like, 338 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: for example, which throwing dog feces, setting tents on fire 339 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: up the street. Freddie got his tent on fire with 340 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: his girlfriend with a bomb. You know, another guy had 341 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: this thing set on fire. So what is your thoughts 342 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: on that? That those aren't vigilantes, those guys are terrorists. 343 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: So two and two together, So what do you think 344 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: about that vigilante attacks. Okay, I got a really good 345 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,959 Speaker 1: thing from a friend of mine that I met very 346 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: first some I was here. His name is Robert. He 347 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: introduced me a guy named Paul. He used to be 348 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: on the l A. P. D. Negos talk. Did anyone 349 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: feed you any food lately? And I said, yeah, I 350 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: got the burrito. It was like a really nice burrito, 351 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: and he goes, don't fucking eat it. They're coming around 352 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: their pluting food and there's fourteen people that have died 353 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: here that are getting handed food because they're killing people 354 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: with food. So it's like, is that vigilante or is 355 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: that just psychoticness? What is that? I mean, you can't 356 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: just go to somebody that is a bit down and 357 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: out and then beel bad ass by giving a taco 358 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: that you know you're poisoned. I think that's that's that's 359 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: heavy shit right there. Of that is being unsafe, you know, 360 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 1: to walk down the street or to walk to even 361 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: to the restroom. You don't know what's going to happen 362 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: because you don't know who's who, and you're just trying 363 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 1: to be safe. You know, to keep a roof over 364 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: your head, which is a tent, but you know, you 365 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: never know because people are bringing tens down and people 366 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: are walking the street, people are getting hit in the 367 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: face of bab I got stabbed, so you know, you 368 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: never know, and you know all you want to do 369 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 1: is just keep yourself safe. And these people out here, 370 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: you know, they're just trying to run amok. So what 371 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: is what are your what is your thoughts on the 372 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: vigilante attackes. I don't get hit in the face of 373 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: the pizza box because they tend to hit you for 374 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: no reason because there we're just innocent people trying to 375 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: survive here, and that there's people that are not trying 376 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: to survive. They're just doing drugs and they're messing enough 377 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: for the people that are trying to take it from 378 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: day to day. Okay. What I know also is on 379 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: the pipeline is that what scared me because when I 380 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: first heard about it, I had had some vigilanti attacks 381 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: on me and so I know it's freaking scary because 382 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: I had a couple of them. This guy came up 383 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: on me, start yelling and streaming about to attack me 384 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: and I had to arm defend myself. On several occasions 385 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: they've tried to get uh, they've been threat threats because 386 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: of the sentiment around the park and where I'm at 387 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: and the crazy belief systems and accusations. So imagine my 388 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: surprise that when I went on Facebook and I seeing 389 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: that the LAPD and police officers are in agreement with 390 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: these activities like throwing I said, people at throwing a 391 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: bb gun palace, shooting him at people's tests and things 392 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: like that. What do you think about how they communicate 393 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: the connection with the LAPD and the vigilante terrorists that 394 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't justify their actions just because they have a 395 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: branch of government attached to them. It doesn't make it 396 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: any more right than what they see as it could 397 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: be in their eyes, which is not it's kind of 398 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: idiotic to actually think something like that, but also the 399 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: actually have the government back up something like that, it's 400 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: also equally idiotic. Well, I was at one of the 401 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: city hall meetings and I heard myself that they had 402 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 1: the same excuses and the same justification as the vigilantes had, 403 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: And that's very disturbing, And I was like frightened because like, 404 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: are they giving these vigilantes tips on how to do 405 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: it to avoid prosecution or I they are trying to 406 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: make ways to manufacture charges to criminalize them. What is 407 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: your thoughts. I noticed in the last three months, and 408 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: I'll make it as quick as I can. My brother. 409 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: Even once a certain prison released a lot of individuals 410 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: that were lifers underneath a new law here in California, 411 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: they get housing. I can't even get housing after twenty 412 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: fucking five years with multiple scrosses, and I got money, 413 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: I can't find housing, and they get housing. Then they 414 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: got bombs, they got people, they had people working for them, 415 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: and they all know who the call tails are. And 416 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: there's like a lot of the Mexican mafia just got released. 417 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 1: And now you walk around this park, it's feeded every 418 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: single day. It never used to be that way. Now, 419 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 1: those graffiti artists, because I happen to know a few 420 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: of them, they're not unhoused. These people have housed. I 421 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: know most of them, so that's but unfortunately they have 422 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: been painting that on the unhoused. These graffiti artists are 423 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: considering themselves warriors and fighting against the system and the government. 424 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: So let's not twist it. And the guys that are 425 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: prisoned from prison have a different issue themselves. They have 426 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: to be educated or have legal restrictions that they have 427 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: to follow, so they can't be at parks and things, 428 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: so they have to house them in order for the 429 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: public don't have a riot because they don't they little 430 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: Becky and Sue think a criminal is in the midst. 431 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: So what is your thoughts on the police being in 432 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: support of vigilanti attacks on unhoused people. I don't like 433 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 1: the police. I stay away from them as much as 434 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: I can. That's my motto. What is your thoughts on 435 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: vigilantes against what the police support. They don't care about us. 436 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,719 Speaker 1: They just want us out and they just want their 437 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 1: quotas so they could just make their tickets so they 438 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: can make their money. They're not worried about our safety. 439 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: They should be getting people that are actually killing people, 440 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 1: not the people that are living on the ground. On 441 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: face ground, I certainly agree with that assessment because most 442 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,479 Speaker 1: of the unhoused people that I have had the pleasure 443 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: of talking to, they seem very nice people. They're very 444 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: supportive of each other and they look out for each other, 445 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: and that's what all on the house. Also what people 446 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: in communities do, what they have a house or not. 447 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: And I just wish as our society that we come 448 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: to the term come to the table and understanding the 449 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: stop vilifying and criminalizing and dehumanizing and judging us as 450 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 1: we are horrible people. You can be out here too. 451 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 1: I am a college graduate and I'm out here because 452 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: I got sick and I got evicted. These things are happening. 453 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 1: They're the elderly lady that I've talked to, she's out here. 454 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: She's not a drug addict. She her rent was too expensive. 455 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: So these things are very important to understand. You have 456 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: to put the humanity back in our society and in 457 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 1: our city and in our neighborhoods. Again. I'm Theo Henderson 458 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: from Chinatown street Watch. I'm here in Echo Park. Thank 459 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: you for listening, and may we all again meet in 460 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: the light of understanding. Those were the voices of several 461 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: of my friends who live in Echo Park and experience 462 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: violence on a day to day basis and on a 463 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: tiptoe stand tiply because they are on house. Next I 464 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: talked to Harvey from El Pueblo, Chinatown, and he talks 465 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,239 Speaker 1: about how his issues have his time over here from 466 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: ten years of being done house of the police are 467 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: harassing them. Sanitation workers LASA the city halls basically have 468 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: given license to unhoused vigilantianism to come by and throw 469 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: things and yell death threats and epithets at them without 470 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: further ado. I'm going to start off and asks Harvey 471 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: to give us some examples of the vigilanteism attacks that 472 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: he's experienced out here on the streets. Well, the ones 473 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: that we've experienced out here is people coming by here 474 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: at the weed hours of the morning and screaming or 475 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: honking their horns or skidding all over the place they're tires. Lately, 476 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: there's been a couple of idiots that came by with 477 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: these loud mufflers that means they pop very loudly and 478 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: it sounds like a gun in a way, and it 479 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: it goes here in this area. So, yeah, we've been 480 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: getting a lot of that lately, and I don't know 481 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: why the police hasn't done anything about that. But other 482 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: than that, yeah, we've experienced a lot of that. These 483 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: fools coming around here just bothering us really late at 484 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: night or early in the mornings just because they want to, 485 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: which brings up a good questions, Like I have been 486 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: thinking because I've been on the house and I know 487 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: that it's been a very scary experience for me. What 488 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: advice would you give to people that have just became 489 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: unhoused and with the vigilanteism uptick and the promotion of 490 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: it by the police and the city, what suggestions would 491 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: you have for them to survive out here? First thing, 492 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: if you're new to the areas that you're going to 493 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: be staying in, make sure you be friendly with the 494 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: person that's there. Because if you're by yourself and you're 495 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: going to be living next to other people who are 496 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: living out in the streets, be friendly with them because 497 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: you're going to need them one day and they're going 498 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: to be there for you just like you'll be there 499 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: for them. And another thing is that to prepare yourself. 500 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's hard to prepare a person 501 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: when somebody comes by and either throws ice at your 502 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: tent or throws BB's, you know, with the bb gun 503 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: at your tent, it's you know, it's gonna startle you 504 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: because it's gonna happen in those type of hours is 505 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: usually after midnight, but before five am, that's when we 506 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: get the idiots out here. So yeah, they again to 507 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: have to get you know, used to it and see 508 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: how you can protect yourself. I myself protect myself with 509 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: a knife and I have pepper spray very well. Exvice, 510 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: because you would need to have one thing I've learned 511 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: as well on the street as well. I was almost 512 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: attacked out in Little Tokyo and the experience was I 513 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: was sleeping at night and there were three inebriated house 514 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: white gentlemen we're talking about, to attack me while I 515 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: was sleeping, and they thought I was sleeping, And at 516 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: the time, I'm a martial artist. I had my helber 517 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: sore and I was waiting for them to make the move. 518 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: It looks like a long oversized SPASHETI. As soon as 519 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: they approached trying to attack, I pulled out the sword 520 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: and needless to say, they actually had several accidents that 521 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: they un bodily functional accidents due to my ranting and raving. Right, 522 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: So it is important as well as us as on 523 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: house community to have a very bright eyed understanding. Will 524 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: you feel that if someone came and as a vigilante 525 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: attacked you, do you think you will get helped by 526 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: the police. That's like a big question mark there, because 527 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: if when we do call the police even even when 528 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: we call the paramedics out here, they don't always rush 529 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: here like they do with regular people. Okay, they don't. 530 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: That never happens. There's always a delay, and they always 531 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: like to play it off that they couldn't find that 532 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: person even though you gave them specifics a word this 533 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: person is at. Like what happened last night, I had 534 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: to do that. There was somebody that was feeling sick, 535 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: and I told them specifically where we were at. They 536 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: ended up going and passing us up while we're screaming 537 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: at them, and they were at the other end of 538 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: the corner, at the end of the block that they 539 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: ended actually did turn around until finally I told them, 540 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: what you guys are that stupid that you didn't see 541 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,719 Speaker 1: me waving at you guys? Okay that yeah, that's a problem. 542 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: But as far as the cops showing up on time, no, 543 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: I've experienced that. The last time we've complained and we 544 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: called the police, they the longest that they've tooken was 545 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: two hours. Guy runs tracks with me. When I got 546 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: stabbed out there in the park, I uh the amulams 547 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: cam first, and that was after a thirty minute wait, 548 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: and I almost died, so it's this is a common 549 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: occurrence with unhoused people. We are not treated as full 550 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: citizens even though we were Americans and we have the 551 00:33:56,040 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: same constitutional rights as house people. So I want the 552 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: house community and people that want to help to understand 553 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: that these RV travails and challenges that unhouse people go through. 554 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: Thank you again for speaking with us, Harvey, Thank you, 555 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,240 Speaker 1: and I hope that everybody listens to this podcast because 556 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: you know what, this is going to be happening more 557 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: often than not, and you're going to have to do 558 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: something to protect yourself. Next is Unhoused News December eighth, 559 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 1: there will be a memorial service for unhoused people at 560 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 1: boy Heights Cemetery along with others that have been not 561 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: bodies have not been claimed. And other news. Hilda Zerik, 562 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: thirty two years old was shot twice for asking for 563 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: thirty six cents for some bread, and the House News. 564 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: There was a death last week by the name of 565 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: a gentleman by the name a musician, a drummer by 566 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: the name of Rodney. In addition to that, there was 567 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: another musician, Fancy, she passed away as well. Hypertherbia deaths 568 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: are on the riots in Atlanta, resulting in twenty eight 569 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: deaths after a Atlanta shelter closes. Will this be a 570 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: trend that follows In Los Angeles, California? The cold weather 571 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: shelters are open, but will it be sufficient enough to 572 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: get all the unhoused mar in mind? Most unhoused shelters 573 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 1: has restrictions on bulky items. Many of the unhoused that 574 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: refuse the services are afraid of losing everything or having 575 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: it taken or stolen or taken by the city and 576 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: come back and starting over, which is one of the 577 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: major reasons why unhoused people refuse services and shelters. Not 578 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: to mention the burned out unprofessionalism or the attagonistic nature 579 00:35:48,360 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: some of the shelzter staff members have some final thoughts. 580 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: Somewhere in a room sitting on their social media is 581 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: someone writing out hateful things about unhoused people. And when 582 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: they're done, they're going to send it to some groups 583 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: like nextdoor, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter. They're going to find like 584 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: minded people to galvanize to push against unhoused people's civil 585 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 1: rights and their basic rights to humanity. And somewhere this 586 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: message will be sent to your city leaders. Who's afraid 587 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: of if they speak out against this hateful, hateful vigilanteism, 588 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: that they will lose their chances at reelection, advertising money 589 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: funds to launch other initiatives that they want that can 590 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: help line their pockets, or to may seem like that 591 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: they're tough on law and order. And somewhere there are 592 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:09,720 Speaker 1: people that will sit in a school or sit nearby 593 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: and watch unhoused people with disgust and call for police 594 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 1: on them and say that they are an eyesore, that 595 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: they are threat to children. Some of them are a 596 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: City of Los Angeles employees, some of them are LAUSD employees. 597 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: Some of them are just parents that are gentifiers that 598 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: just don't have the gumption or the intelligence to realize 599 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: the humanity of unhoused people and understanding the repercussions that 600 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: can follow when you do such things. Somewhere else, in 601 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Police or any police station around the world, 602 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 1: they have a hard line. They have a distaste and 603 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 1: discuss for unhoused people, and they will push the campaign 604 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: to these business owners that they are a problem that 605 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 1: must be squashed. They fail law and order, they are 606 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: the problem. They don't want services, and you just give 607 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: us the rent, let us have the reins, and we 608 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: will unleash hell on these people and punch down hell 609 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,840 Speaker 1: even we will even kill them to support your quality 610 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 1: of life, ignoring the others quality of life, like myself 611 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,919 Speaker 1: and others. And also I want to point out somewhere else, 612 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: sitting at home or going to church or getting ready 613 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,439 Speaker 1: for work, you will see unhoused people suffering. You will 614 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: believe yourself to be a good person. You will believe 615 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: yourself to be a taxpayer. You believe that there should 616 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,240 Speaker 1: be something done about the homeless crisis or the unhoused 617 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,240 Speaker 1: crisis of houselessness, and you will want to do something 618 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 1: about it, but you don't know what to do. This 619 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 1: is what this podcast is for, to let you find 620 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 1: out a call to action on things that you can do, 621 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: and you subscribe to our Weasley Unhoused. We will keep 622 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: you updated on our voices, not people like Steve Lopez, 623 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 1: Drew Mitpenski or the board of supervisors who listens to 624 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: this hateful fittrawal to get you ramped up to do 625 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 1: harmful things. We will tell you how the way the 626 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: best help us, because after all, we're the ones that 627 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 1: are surviving on the streets. The second thing I want 628 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: to point out, and my final thought is the good people. 629 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 1: I stated this in my first episode, and I stated again, 630 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: where are all of these good people to stand up 631 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: against the rise of hate. This is a lot of 632 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 1: hate that's been going on, and it's been going on 633 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 1: unabated for some time. I know that there are some 634 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: that will look on social media and they will shake 635 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: their head, you know, give emoticon and move on. And 636 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 1: then some has been more inspired now to start sharing it. 637 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 1: I've noticed an ft TICKNAT. Some will watch some of 638 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 1: the episodes, but there is still more to be done 639 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: for us as a community. Unhoused people are community members. 640 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: They are human beings. They are not an I soore. 641 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: They don't choose to be fashionable to sit there, to 642 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,879 Speaker 1: be harassed by the community and the police, let known 643 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: or susceptible to early death diseases, health challenges. There are 644 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: people that have different challenges that we all have. There's 645 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 1: just the difference is we don't have a shelter to 646 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 1: put us under so that you will not see it. 647 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: We're visible, but yet we're invisible in some respects in 648 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: some people's eyes. When you listen to the inn House, 649 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 1: I want you to marry In mind, what have I 650 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,399 Speaker 1: done to make the situation better for unhoused people as 651 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 1: a whole? Because I can be unhoused if I'm in 652 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: a part of a church or an organization that you 653 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 1: know that does good things. Ask some of the questions, 654 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: what are we doing about the unhoused in our community? 655 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: They exist here? Are we only just doing something for 656 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: Christmas and Thanksgiving? Are we doing anything worldwide or a 657 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 1: year round to help them? Chinatown community does not as 658 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: a whole. Individually. I have been very very blessed to help, 659 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: but it's not enough. The community as a whole has 660 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,760 Speaker 1: taken the lead of Georgia executive director and not doing anything. 661 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: When I confronted the China Chinese Baptist Church, they proudly 662 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: stated they don't have anything like it, and they don't 663 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: want to have anything like this. They don't look at 664 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: an unhoused issue as a problem to be solved or 665 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:46,320 Speaker 1: helped or become involved in. They feel it's an individual problem. 666 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: You know, the next bowl of rice is very very 667 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,800 Speaker 1: important for me and only my salve Asian in Jesus Christ. 668 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: It's going to be most important than the needs of 669 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,439 Speaker 1: unhoused people. I want to leave you with this thought 670 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 1: for the ones that have different paths in life. Doctor 671 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 1: King stated this very eloquently and I agree with it too. 672 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: We may all come from different ships, but we all 673 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 1: are in the same boat now. Capitalism, white supremacy, gentrification. 674 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 1: These are just the buzzwords to a recipe of a 675 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 1: hateful soup that is used to use the ingredients of fear, shame, 676 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: and finger whacking of poor people to keep our eye 677 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:40,880 Speaker 1: off of the large rests of the minimum the one percent. 678 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 1: I want you to examine yourselves and when you look 679 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 1: on and listen to these podcasts in the future, to 680 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 1: find out where do you find yourself into this What 681 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 1: part do I play in perpetuating the hateful rhetoric or 682 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: the uplifting rhetoric and the uplifting actions to help on 683 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:04,400 Speaker 1: house people find their best selves. Thank you for listening. 684 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,839 Speaker 1: This is our episode of Weezy on House. My name 685 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 1: is Theo Henderson and I hope you enjoyed this episode. 686 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 1: I please join us again next week when we tackle 687 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,360 Speaker 1: our new subject that deals with on house issues. This 688 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 1: podcast has been successful due to the efforts and the 689 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: vision of many people that have taken the time and 690 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,279 Speaker 1: effort to make this as successful as it is. I 691 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 1: want to personally thank Jed Barro joined and Swan moved 692 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 1: to Tristan I, sen Zakaweah, Mario Korea, Taiji Makawara, Annie Shaw, 693 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 1: John Trung, and many others that if the names escape me, 694 00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,840 Speaker 1: for giving me the opportunity to try to be a 695 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 1: voice for the announs in this community. And if you 696 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 1: I've forgotten your name, you know who you are, and 697 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,360 Speaker 1: give me an opportunity next week to thank you for 698 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 1: thank you b m h m hmmmmmmmmmm hm m