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Speaker 1: Well, on today's show, we've got a bunch of exciting
Speaker 1: stuff the way we've kind of broken down this Tues
Speaker 1: cruise on this particular college football Tuesday discussion.
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Speaker 1: You remember those like old Maden mini games that you'd have,
Speaker 1: like you could build your player up by breaking up
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Speaker 1: We've got something similar planned for today. We've got three
Speaker 1: little mini games here. We've put these together. We've got
Speaker 1: one here labeled chapter one or a short story, another
Speaker 1: one labeled pumped the Brakes, and then of course an
Speaker 1: old favorite done or not done so to which it
Speaker 1: goes without any further introduction. But what is this one
Speaker 1: here that we're starting with mean chapter one or a
Speaker 1: short story?
Speaker 2: So we've got five items here for notable teams that
Speaker 2: have a very specific issue that they've shown early on
Speaker 2: in the season. Now it is for us to decide
Speaker 2: was this a blip? Is this something that's going to
Speaker 2: be fixed? So it's just a little short story, a
Speaker 2: self contained situation that happened in week one, Week two,
Speaker 2: maybe week three, but by the time we get to
Speaker 2: October November long gone? Or is it chapter one in
Speaker 2: a long novella of novella a novella holy which is
Speaker 2: also I believe, a short book. But is it a
Speaker 2: long Is it the first chapter in a story that
Speaker 2: has many chapters of a very specific issue? Okay, all right,
Speaker 2: we'll start here. Yeah, we were texting about this on Saturday.
Speaker 2: Penn State's rushing issues. They had trouble running the ball.
Speaker 2: They go down ten to seven at the half to Buffalo.
Speaker 2: Miles Sanders was pretty good last season two years, of course,
Speaker 2: and three years of course, you have Saquon Barkley just
Speaker 2: excellent at Heisman caliber. But right now, early on, especially
Speaker 2: considering who they've played, Buffalo and I believe Idaho have
Speaker 2: not been killer on the ground. Do you think this
Speaker 2: is a short story done with or is it the
Speaker 2: first chapter on a season long struggle on the ground?
Speaker 1: Well, look, you're right to ask it. We mentioned it
Speaker 1: on the Sunday Show you mentioned we were texting about it.
Speaker 1: The rushing game has not been all that impressive thus far.
Speaker 1: I'm not reading too deeply into it, not at this juncture. Anyway.
Speaker 1: Penn State's been blessed last couple seasons. They had Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 1: They had Miles Sanders, both of whom now are officially
Speaker 1: starting running backs in the NFL. So both really good.
Speaker 2: Miles Sanders starting.
Speaker 1: Miles Sanders got to start for the Eagles yet, oh great, cool,
Speaker 1: So it seems fair to give him a little bit
Speaker 1: of slack to figure it out now that both those
Speaker 1: guys are gone. Also, you were right to point out
Speaker 1: Penn State's played Idaho and Buffalo so far. I think
Speaker 1: Pitt's defense is going to offer a stiffer test than
Speaker 1: we saw in each of the last two weeks, so
Speaker 1: I want to give myself the opportunity to reassess. Penn
Speaker 1: State also has Maryland at the end of September, which
Speaker 1: is really the probably the best time to reassess, given
Speaker 1: the way that Maryland's been playing for now, I am
Speaker 1: inclined to say short story, not part of a longer novella.
Speaker 2: I'm going to say it's chapter one, and I know
Speaker 2: there's talent back there that you know, Ricky Slade and
Speaker 2: Journey Brown has been very good. But Pitt's run defense,
Speaker 2: Pitt's front has been fine. Maryland's pretty good, you know,
Speaker 2: not a huge, huge schedule for Maryland yet. Purdue has
Speaker 2: been okay, but Nevada just mostly throws the ball in
Speaker 2: that loss. Ioways very strong up front, Michigan's very strong
Speaker 2: up front, Michigan State strong upfront. Minnesota has been fine,
Speaker 2: Ohio State looks improved, Indiana looks okay. I'm worried that
Speaker 2: this is a bad year to have a so so
Speaker 2: rushing attack. So I'm going to say there are going
Speaker 2: to be weeks, there are going to be losses that
Speaker 2: we can point to. An inability to control the ball
Speaker 2: on the ground for Penn State being a big chunk
Speaker 2: of it, because that seems so important with a completely
Speaker 2: inexperienced quarterback promising in Sean Clifford, but inexperience, I'm gona.
Speaker 1: Say chapter one, I disagree. Let's move on, yep, let's
Speaker 1: move on. Let's stick on the offensive side of the ball. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and let's zoom out a little bit, not just rushing issues.
Speaker 1: Although rushing issues are a big deal, we've got here
Speaker 1: Auburn offensive issues.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So this has been a theme to some degree with
Speaker 1: the Auburn Tigers. It's part of the reason why Gus
Speaker 1: Melson is perpetually on the hot seat. Dan, is what
Speaker 1: we've seen from Auburn offensively chapter one or in this case,
Speaker 1: maybe like chapter eight, because it's not just been the
Speaker 1: first time we've seen it, right, or is it a
Speaker 1: short story and a blip on the radar.
Speaker 2: I've got chapter one, I've got another Chapter one. I
Speaker 2: have Auburn having issues blocking inside, and I understand both
Speaker 2: of the defenses they've played have been strong upfront, but
Speaker 2: I'm not crazy about the fact that teams can stack
Speaker 2: the box against Bonick. So I think is pretty good
Speaker 2: and or will be pretty good. He's got to beat
Speaker 2: up receiving corps. I don't love this line. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: say Auburn's going to be fine this season, but they're
Speaker 2: gonna have offensive issues. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Auburn is one hundred and tenth in yards per play
Speaker 1: through games against Oregon and Tulane, and their numbers actually
Speaker 1: got worse after Tulane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tulane's front is legit like that. It's not anything
Speaker 2: to look at, you know, as a team that's below
Speaker 2: them defensively. But I think it's going to be with
Speaker 2: what they have in front of them. If they're winning
Speaker 2: big games, I think it's going to be because of
Speaker 2: the defense.
Speaker 1: What worries me, or why I should say why I'm
Speaker 1: worried about this is first off seventieth last year in
Speaker 1: yards per play gained and seventy fourth in yards per carry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we said all off season that they needed to figure
Speaker 1: that out. And then secondly, they can only lean so
Speaker 1: much on bo Nicks. He's a freshman quarterback. I think
Speaker 1: he's the real deal. I like him a lot, but eventually,
Speaker 1: like all freshmen, he's going to show a stripes. He's
Speaker 1: going to show some youth. And let me throw in
Speaker 1: another qualifier if I could. The schedule gets late early
Speaker 1: at Auburn, it's all fun and games now and against
Speaker 1: can State this coming week, but after that we've got
Speaker 1: what A and M Mississippi State at Florida. This offense
Speaker 1: is going to have to prove itself in very short order.
Speaker 1: They need to get it worked worked out here and
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, beat up wide receiving corps. The running
Speaker 1: game has been a bitten flux freshman quarterback. There are
Speaker 1: reasons to worry. I'm with you, although I don't think
Speaker 1: it is just chapter one. I think it's part of
Speaker 1: a recurring novella. I love that word, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: This is like chapter three after the last two seasons.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and when you look at their schedule too, I
Speaker 2: think Arkansas is going to be a nice relief. But
Speaker 2: even Ole Miss has looked solid on defense. Even they
Speaker 2: might simply be below average by the time they play,
Speaker 2: and that's a week after LSU. So there's body blow
Speaker 2: theory potential. We'll see, we will see. But I'm saying
Speaker 2: chapter one.
Speaker 1: We're going next.
Speaker 2: Let's go to something you're familiar with, Notre Dame and
Speaker 2: their rush defense. Now, they struggled early on against Losall. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we're really taking this to extremes our Louisville voices. But
Speaker 2: do you think that there is something more there? I
Speaker 2: think we're two weeks out of the Georgia game. Although
Speaker 2: after Georgia I'm not sure how many teams can truly
Speaker 2: test them on the ground. But is it a short
Speaker 2: story that Okay, they struggle against Louisville, they have New Mexico,
Speaker 2: They'll be fine, or Chapter one, season long issue stopping
Speaker 2: the run.
Speaker 1: I came into the season assuming that this is going
Speaker 1: to be a problem, that it would be essentially chapter one,
Speaker 1: and in the game we saw against Louisville, I did
Speaker 1: not see much to convince me otherwise. Wow, they did
Speaker 1: get better as that game went on, And I hate
Speaker 1: to judge too much on what we saw in week one,
Speaker 1: but that's really all we have to go on at
Speaker 1: this point. The big test is in two weeks against Georgia,
Speaker 1: and I know another thing we've texted about is what
Speaker 1: I think Georgia's game plan should be against Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: I think they should run it up the mid straight
Speaker 1: at them, and then when they get tired of doing that,
Speaker 1: I think they should do it again and again and again.
Speaker 1: So maybe my mind will change after whatever goes down
Speaker 1: in that Georgia game in two weeks. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I came into the season with the assumption that
Speaker 1: this was going to be chapter one of a rickety
Speaker 1: rush defense, particularly up the gut, and I don't think
Speaker 1: I have enough data at this point to say anything
Speaker 1: to the contrary. So I'm saying chapter one.
Speaker 2: I don't know after Georgia if I see a team
Speaker 2: on this schedule in which I don't have to I
Speaker 2: don't have to put my register, I don't have to
Speaker 2: raise the register of my voice a little bit when
Speaker 2: wondering if they're good enough to really go at Notre Dame,
Speaker 2: Virginia Bowling Green, USC, Michigan Virginia at tach Duke, Navy, BC, Stanford.
Speaker 2: I'd like there's nobody. I'm very confident after seeing Michigan's
Speaker 2: new quote unquote offense. I mean USC has talent backed there,
Speaker 2: Michigan is young back there. I don't see an obvious
Speaker 2: team after Georgia that if Notre Dame has that as
Speaker 2: a weakness, can fully take advantage.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're saying we disagree, short story, disagree, all right.
Speaker 1: Next one, Texas is past defense Dan. Yeah, we saw
Speaker 1: what happened against Joe Burrow and LSU had a bit
Speaker 1: of a field day on or rather big stage. I
Speaker 1: was told that Texas was DBU. Has that changed, Well,
Speaker 1: Texas told you that, so consider your source. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's quite there right now. No, I
Speaker 1: think LSU has more of a right to call themselves
Speaker 1: that if that is a thing, LSU is that thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this was a concern the Texas pass defense before the season.
Speaker 1: We really like the back back end of the defense,
Speaker 1: but they were playing true sophomore as a corner. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it just seemed like a tall order, especially in
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve. Now, through two games, Texas is one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty seventh in the nation in yards per
Speaker 1: game one and thirteenth in yards per attempt. Those are
Speaker 1: both passing statistics, mind you, So it it makes sense
Speaker 1: that we'd be talking about this year. I take a
Speaker 1: look at their remaining schedule. I say chapter one because Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, Baylor a bunch of prolific passing
Speaker 1: teams that are yet to be played. So chapter one
Speaker 1: for me.
Speaker 2: I'm not there. Man. I think LSU is that good
Speaker 2: on offense. I'm riding with the new offense and Joe
Speaker 2: Brady and Joe Burrow and whatever. I love LSU, and
Speaker 2: I think Texas is going to be fine. They have
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State with a first year starting quarterback, a red
Speaker 2: shirt freshman who I think is good. I think he's
Speaker 2: pretty good, and he has good receivers but the game
Speaker 2: is in Austin. I don't think they're going to be
Speaker 2: as prolific as LSU was. West Virginia goes from will
Speaker 2: Greer to nothing scattered. That offense is scary bad looking
Speaker 2: right now. I think Jalen Hurts is going to be
Speaker 2: very good. I don't think he's gonna Kyler Murray or
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield. He started out the season looking like it.
Speaker 2: Kansas TCU is a quarterback mess right now. Kansas State,
Speaker 2: we have no idea. They haven't played anybody. They handled
Speaker 2: Rock Party in Iowa State last year. I think you
Speaker 2: know the games and aims this year. Texas Tech Baylor,
Speaker 2: these aren't teams that you know. Tech had a decent
Speaker 2: game against them. Baylor didn't torch the Texas defense last year.
Speaker 2: I feel okay about the Texas pass defense. I do.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to be down for longer
Speaker 2: than a year. I mean longer than a year, sure,
Speaker 2: but last year. I don't think they're going to be
Speaker 2: longer than last year.
Speaker 1: Okay, we disagree.
Speaker 2: I mean the lot the Taylor, Cornelius Will Greer losses
Speaker 2: I think are a significant upperclassmen, very good quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: We disagree is moving on final one here the Washington
Speaker 1: passing game, Dan, why did you have this one on there?
Speaker 2: Because it was rough against Cal? It was rough and
Speaker 2: it was sort of twofold. Because I really like Washington's
Speaker 2: offensive line. I've always been a little bit questioning of
Speaker 2: Jacob Eson and this receiving cores. And it's a broken
Speaker 2: record on this show since John Ross not the same.
Speaker 2: You know, talent for plays, talent for situations, but overall,
Speaker 2: I think their strongest at tight end, and that's worrisome
Speaker 2: because they recruited pretty well there. I'm going to say
Speaker 2: chapter one, I'm going to say, with this schedule they
Speaker 2: have in front of them, I'm going to say it's
Speaker 2: a bad year to have both a questionable receiving corps
Speaker 2: and questionable quarterback. Yes, Cal has the best secondary in
Speaker 2: the conference, right, that is a thing. I don't want
Speaker 2: to disrespect Cal on defense, but when you look at
Speaker 2: Washington's schedule, I think there's a lot of like there's
Speaker 2: there's speed bumps, there's there's road blockages. You know, USC
Speaker 2: looks strong upfront on defense BYU is no slouch. Oregon,
Speaker 2: Utah and consecutive. I know there's a bye week between them.
Speaker 2: You know, I think Washington State it's at home and
Speaker 2: Washington owns Washington State, So I'm not terribly worried about that.
Speaker 2: But between USC, Oregon and Utah, those are the teams
Speaker 2: you have to beat. If you're Washington and if you're
Speaker 2: losing a Cal and it suddenly becomes a lot dicier.
Speaker 1: You missed a prime opportunity instead of roadblock to stay blockade.
Speaker 1: Remember international high sees, Dan, this is the two's crew.
Speaker 2: Disagree, Agree, What do you think?
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to be that worried yet. Okay, there
Speaker 1: were always going to be some growing pains with Jacob Eason.
Speaker 1: I think that's a given. Sure, he's been around a
Speaker 1: couple of years, but I just think this is expected
Speaker 1: at home. Yeah, I look.
Speaker 2: In front of hundreds of people at three am.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know it's hard to believe,
Speaker 1: but I think growing pains are sort of a given.
Speaker 1: I also don't want to base anything too much on
Speaker 1: that Col game, because Col's got a good defense, the
Speaker 1: good secondary. Yep, it's early in the season. Outside of
Speaker 1: Cal and maybe Oregon in Utah, I just don't feel
Speaker 1: like there are that many good defenses in the Pac twelve.
Speaker 2: Sorry, here's a sub question I think is the raciest, hottest,
Speaker 2: takiest question I could possibly ask. Was the Cow game
Speaker 2: an upset?
Speaker 1: I think so?
Speaker 2: You think so? You think by the end of the year,
Speaker 2: by October, we're going to say, Wow, that was way
Speaker 2: out of character for what we now know about these
Speaker 2: two teams.
Speaker 1: No, No, I don't. I don't think we're going to
Speaker 1: see it as out of character. But I also don't think.
Speaker 2: That you're a big cow head. No I was.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows that about you, cowhead. No, I don't think
Speaker 1: it was out of character, but I do think it
Speaker 1: was an upset.
Speaker 2: Okay, I just I think it's worth asking, just asking question,
Speaker 2: this question.
Speaker 1: This question goes away in a week because Washington has Hawaii,
Speaker 1: and my guess is that Jake Easton's going to throw
Speaker 1: for three to fifty in like five touchdowns.
Speaker 2: As far as I can tell, Hawaii is two and
Speaker 2: zero against PAC twelve teams in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: Let's do this, Let's do this. Yeah, let's put this
Speaker 1: one back on the docket after the USC game at
Speaker 1: the end of September like a two's cruiz booie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just float now. Nice recovery. Okay, where are we going next?
Speaker 1: What is our next mini game? Here?
Speaker 2: I see pump of the breaks? Yeah, all right, so
Speaker 2: this is quite simple. This is sort of similar to
Speaker 2: thing or not a thing. But let's be more specific
Speaker 2: about our excitement regarding a lot of positive situations in
Speaker 2: college football. So simply I'm gonna give you a situation
Speaker 2: and you say, yeah, we should pump the brakes, relax
Speaker 2: a little bit, or nah, got the need for cee.
Speaker 2: This is a problem, this specifically problem. Yeah, I'm I'm
Speaker 2: full throttle on everything.
Speaker 1: I always are.
Speaker 2: You. You're five for five in these teams. Well, we
Speaker 2: didn't go through them yet.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just saying that My problem with games like
Speaker 1: this is I always run a little hot this early
Speaker 1: in the season. This is how I get myself into
Speaker 1: corners with TCU and Old Miss and yeah.
Speaker 2: We do get We get notes all the time from
Speaker 2: people having to pull off the road because it's getting
Speaker 2: so steamy coming from their speakers because you run so hot.
Speaker 1: Mylas are fogging up here. Where are we going first?
Speaker 2: All right, pump the breaks? North Carolina?
Speaker 1: Tie?
Speaker 2: Are we pumping some breaks?
Speaker 1: I'm all in, I'm all in. I got the need, baby.
Speaker 2: I think they hit a wall. I'm gonna pump those breaks.
Speaker 2: I'm going to be encouraged and I'm going to be hopeful,
Speaker 2: but I'm pumping the breaks a little bit on North Carolina.
Speaker 1: Did you see Mac Brown's robotic dance after week one?
Speaker 2: Did you see Mac Brown almost give away two straight
Speaker 2: weeks of games in which he had probably the better
Speaker 2: quarterback for all four quarters?
Speaker 1: Excuse me the quarterback who has a Yeah, sounds wonderful,
Speaker 1: Sam Howel I love them.
Speaker 2: The thing that you have going for you and running
Speaker 2: hot for the heels hashtag hot for the Heels. Wake
Speaker 2: Forest on the road app State Clemson, but it's in
Speaker 2: Chapel Hill at Georgia Tech, at Virginia Tech, Duke Virginia
Speaker 2: tough at pitt We'll see Mercer at NC State tough.
Speaker 2: There's not a lot of tough certainty on this schedule
Speaker 2: right now, with Virginia looking as dicey as they look,
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech rebuilding a stay with a new coach, Wake Forest.
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be dangerous, but still, I think
Speaker 2: North Carolina is just gonna hit a couple of walls.
Speaker 2: I think they lost a starting corner. Just now for
Speaker 2: the season with the torn ACL there's a freshman factor
Speaker 2: with Sam Howell where he's just gonna have a clunker
Speaker 2: of a game against the team he shouldn't. That's what
Speaker 2: I'm worried about with North Carolina, where we made a
Speaker 2: statement of do we have to start talking about eight
Speaker 2: and four North Carolina. I think we're gonna we should
Speaker 2: pull back to six and six, seven and five North Carolina.
Speaker 1: See here's the thing. Yeah, there were no expectations for
Speaker 1: North Carolina, that's true. So they were always playing with
Speaker 1: house money. Anything that isn't bad is very good. So
Speaker 1: this is an easy one for me. They're not gonna
Speaker 1: win the ACC but the ceiling is much much higher
Speaker 1: than I think we thought. This week against Wake should
Speaker 1: be a hell of a game. I think I saw
Speaker 1: there about a three point dog in that game. I
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of shootout potential. So all of
Speaker 1: this is gravy. As far as I'm I did the
Speaker 1: preview for South for North Carolina, excuse me, and I was,
Speaker 1: I was not gung ho on them at all. So
Speaker 1: all of this has been has been just extra added
Speaker 1: fun for me. I'm I'm all in here so repeat
Speaker 1: the words after me. I wouldn't be surprised if North
Speaker 1: Carolina goes eight and four. I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1: Our next one up here is Maryland America's team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is Maryland's another house money situation. Yeah, because nobody
Speaker 1: thought they'd be all that good. Now through two weeks,
Speaker 1: they've got the top scoring offense in college football, and
Speaker 1: after they toasted my Syracuse Orange last week, it is,
Speaker 1: I think hard not to look at this team and
Speaker 1: be very excited.
Speaker 2: I'm with you to I've got the need for speed
Speaker 2: with the terps.
Speaker 1: Let's do it.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm ripping the brakes out of the floor of
Speaker 2: this boat. That's where the breaks are, right. Probably not
Speaker 2: sure Temple Penn State Friday night at home, short week, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: Rutger is not super good perdue kind of disappointing early
Speaker 2: a little bit, even though Elijah Sindelar had a nice week. Indiana, Minnesota.
Speaker 2: Who has been below average? I think Michigan, Ohio State, Nebraska,
Speaker 2: Michigan State. I have questions about everybody on their schedule
Speaker 2: except for probably Ohio State. In terms of if Maryland's
Speaker 2: scoring with anybody. As we already know they can score
Speaker 2: with Ohio State. Yes, yeah, that's been proven. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: and I think Maryland's better than they were last year offensively,
Speaker 2: So I'm all in. Yeah, I don't want any part
Speaker 2: of breaking this. And that's b R A K I
Speaker 2: n G. This turp train.
Speaker 1: Maybe going to a bowl this year. I feel pretty
Speaker 1: good about that. They need four wins, maybe going to
Speaker 1: a ball, which would be a coup for you know,
Speaker 1: any first year coach, but certainly in this case here
Speaker 1: with Mike Loxley, who, as we've joked time and again,
Speaker 1: knows the DMV. Now he brings Josh Jackson into the fold,
Speaker 1: he's been an absolute revelation at quarterbacks, seems very comfortable
Speaker 1: in the system. The running game's been outstanding. This is
Speaker 1: another one, I think where we got to reevaluate at
Speaker 1: some point, maybe after Maryland plays Penn State. All right,
Speaker 1: in two weeks, but stick a booie in it. As
Speaker 1: for now, let's yeah, let's stick that booy in it.
Speaker 1: Let's let's let ourselves get excited here. And you've been
Speaker 1: out there for for the game. Where should Maryland fans
Speaker 1: look to stay ahead of the Rose Bowl? Where like
Speaker 1: do you stay in that like that Glendale Pasaden area
Speaker 1: or downtown to get to more places, you'll go by
Speaker 1: the water. Okay, let's go to Colorado here. Yeah you
Speaker 1: stand on where do you stand on the buffs?
Speaker 2: I'm going to say relaxed on Colorado. Yeah, I'm going
Speaker 2: to say relaxed because of what their defenses look like
Speaker 2: in first halves. And I don't think you can build
Speaker 2: a seven eight six, seven eight win team around needing
Speaker 2: to scrap and come back every week. Now that they
Speaker 2: had to do that against Colorado State, they gave up
Speaker 2: a good chunk of points against the Rams, I don't
Speaker 2: think are all that good. And with how they fell
Speaker 2: behind against Nebraska, I think there's going to be depth
Speaker 2: issues and I think there's going to be bad habit
Speaker 2: issues on defense. So as fun as they can be
Speaker 2: on offense, which they one can be, I say, yeah,
Speaker 2: the Nebraska was exciting, but if you need that to
Speaker 2: beat an okay, Big ten West team, which is where
Speaker 2: I'm at with Nebraska right now, it's not a good sign.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. I think Colorado can win six
Speaker 1: or seven games. The problem is they're all going to
Speaker 1: have to be games like we saw this past weekend, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, I'm fine with that was a hell
Speaker 1: of a.
Speaker 2: Game from an entertainment perspective, From an.
Speaker 1: Entertainment standpoint, from a fans, if you're a Colorado fan,
Speaker 1: if you're if you're yeah, if you're Rich and Boulder,
Speaker 1: who's listening to this show forever?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Maybe not so much, Okay, but.
Speaker 1: Enjoy Stevie Montees and Leaviska Channelt Junior may I while
Speaker 1: they're still in Boulder.
Speaker 2: May I present what their schedule looks like from Friday,
Speaker 2: October eleventh on. Yes, Oregon, Washington, State, usc Hey, Ucla, Stanford,
Speaker 2: Washington at Utah. That's tough.
Speaker 1: That is as tough ask.
Speaker 2: And that's at Oregon at Wazoo. Yeah, that's a tough ask. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 2: that's all I have. So we agree in Colorado is
Speaker 2: do we have any other ones in uh pumping the brakes?
Speaker 2: We do? We have a couple more. Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 2: Now the break pumping question is Heisman. Heisman is Jalen
Speaker 2: Hurts like four miles away from me in early December,
Speaker 2: I see in Manhattan, because right now he is the
Speaker 2: best quarterback in the country statistically, granted, it's Houston and
Speaker 2: whoever they played this past week, Jalen Hurts is putting
Speaker 2: up stupid numbers in the most Heisman friendly offense in
Speaker 2: the country, with an incredible receiving corps, with incredible running backs,
Speaker 2: with great offensive line development recently, Jalen Hurts New York
Speaker 2: or New York adjacent quarterback?
Speaker 1: It's an interesting question.
Speaker 2: That's Elizabeth New Jersey. By the way, is New York adjacent?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's an interesting question. I wonder if Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence and Travis etn split the vote.
Speaker 2: At some level.
Speaker 1: Disagree, But okay, I am wow, this is a good question.
Speaker 1: So you didn't write Heisman on your initial life.
Speaker 2: I didn't know. I'm just saying, okay, So in the
Speaker 2: context of this game, it's just does your excitement about
Speaker 2: this no no bounds or are you protecting your heart?
Speaker 1: I'm not protecting my heart, I think so. Here's why
Speaker 1: I'm not protecting my heart. Yeah, because Kyler Murray and
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield happened in the last two years, right, And I
Speaker 1: feel pretty comfortable that Lincoln Riley's good enough with his offense.
Speaker 1: He's ready using him a little differently, which we can
Speaker 1: get into, but I feel pretty confident that he will
Speaker 1: find a way to utilize his skill set. And I
Speaker 1: do feel pretty confident that Jalen Hurts will be in
Speaker 1: New York. I feel good about that. I'm totally with you.
Speaker 1: I am totally completely with you. These are the defenses
Speaker 1: that they have the rest of the season. So even
Speaker 1: if Jalen Hurts is you know, has an uneven weak
Speaker 1: or two UCLA Texas Tech, who I think should be
Speaker 1: okay this year, Kansas Texas, who you don't like, You're
Speaker 1: on the record, you don't like their past defense yet
Speaker 1: to me, West Virginia, who I think is going to
Speaker 1: be a little bit tricky defensively, I just don't know
Speaker 1: if it'll be this year. Kansas State, new coach, new year,
Speaker 1: will see. I think they're gonna be feisty. Iowa State,
Speaker 1: who's been a thorn for Oklahoma Baylor, who they roughed
Speaker 1: up last year. TCU sure okay, Oklahoma State not so sure.
Speaker 1: I think it's all for the taken for Jalen Hurts,
Speaker 1: neat for speed. He's got nine total touchdowns in two games,
Speaker 1: and it is hard not to be excited, especially when
Speaker 1: you see him run.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I cannot stress this enough. He's a different kind of
Speaker 1: runner than Baker Mayfield and Kyler Murray. Those guys were
Speaker 1: really good at jumping around in the pocket to give
Speaker 1: themselves more time to throw a.
Speaker 2: Little more slight, speedy guys. Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and look there, I hear people yelling at me already.
Speaker 1: There were plenty of designed runs for both of them. Sure,
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts is a lot bigger. He's got really good moves,
Speaker 1: and he wants to take you one. He wants to
Speaker 1: take guys on. I don't know if he's as good
Speaker 1: a passer as either Baker or Kyler. My sense is no.
Speaker 1: But he's a different kind of runner, and I think
Speaker 1: that's what Lincoln Riley's going to latch onto. He's going
Speaker 1: to find ways to create matchup advantages for the Oklahoma
Speaker 1: Sooners offense, knowing that he's got that skill set. So
Speaker 1: I think we're in strong agreement here that Jalen Hurts
Speaker 1: has a remarkable season, ends up in New York. Maybe
Speaker 1: doesn't win the Hives, but who cares. And right here,
Speaker 1: the thing is the more dangerous the runner at quarterback.
Speaker 1: The more a defense needs to dedicate somebody to spying
Speaker 1: on him, which opens things up even more for this
Speaker 1: Oklahoma shortens thank and Riley he has something nobody else has.
Speaker 1: He has the best offensive mine in the sport final one.
Speaker 2: LSU, are we pumping the brakes on you are saying
Speaker 2: the Texas past defense is I mean you didn't say
Speaker 2: done though, but you said the Texas past defense. It's
Speaker 2: just chapter one in a long season of issues. Yes,
Speaker 2: So that leads me to believe that there's at least
Speaker 2: part of you that says, I don't know if I
Speaker 2: fully believe in LSU because they went up against a
Speaker 2: suspect pass defense in Texas.
Speaker 1: So that deep breath you heard that long tail, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm tickling me that. You know, it's heart versus head.
Speaker 1: That is me overruling my heart, going back to my
Speaker 1: head a little bit. I'm trying to play this a
Speaker 1: little bit more logically.
Speaker 2: They've got defenses coming up.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say to relax, and it's for a reason
Speaker 1: that you mentioned on Sunday's recap. Texas is not back.
Speaker 1: They are not back. Okay, if anyone's got the question,
Speaker 1: they are not back, and it has not been the
Speaker 1: best early season measuring stick the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: The Texas Longhorns.
Speaker 2: Okay, take anything away from what LSU did and LSU
Speaker 2: in early years. In early games these past few years,
Speaker 2: they've had the really nice offensive moments.
Speaker 1: LSU was phenomenal against Texas, but this is more a
Speaker 1: bet against Texas as a measuring stick than anything that
Speaker 1: LSU did. Okay, this is all I'm saying here. I
Speaker 1: think the offensive renaissance is legit for what it's worth.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's smoking mirrors. I think Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: is going to have a great year. But I just
Speaker 1: I want to get another data point against a Power
Speaker 1: five team before we remove the brakes out of the
Speaker 1: bottom of the boat. If that's where they are, we
Speaker 1: we just we pull the anchor.
Speaker 2: Up hunt at the engine. Well, so as soon as
Speaker 2: they play Vandy on the road power in their next
Speaker 2: Power five opponent, you will have an official ruling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, I mean it helps, it helps, But
Speaker 1: I'm talking a better opponent, better caliber opponent.
Speaker 2: So you're Florida or Starkville in mid October, Okay, that
Speaker 2: would be nice.
Speaker 1: I'd be nice to see I have the need for speed.
Speaker 2: I'm all in. I'm just all in, completely in. I
Speaker 2: want to be an early adopter. I am pushing my
Speaker 2: chips to the center. I want to go back like
Speaker 2: one of those horrible, horrible Silicon Valley investors was like,
Speaker 2: I was it on Square and Uber early. I was
Speaker 2: with the Series eight. I'm Series A for the LSU offense.
Speaker 2: I'm in.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's it.
Speaker 2: I don't hold back. I'm not protecting my heart.
Speaker 1: Our final game before we let to find.
Speaker 2: People Gonzo, Donzo or not dun So.
Speaker 1: Here is the way this game works. We've got five
Speaker 1: teams before us. We're going to rattle through all of
Speaker 1: them and decide if we think they are Donezo, I
Speaker 1: E are they done?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean it's just after two weeks. Can we
Speaker 2: cross them off the list of teams that will be good, scary,
Speaker 2: feisty whatever in late October?
Speaker 1: It is more relative to our own personal expectations for
Speaker 1: these teams.
Speaker 2: But yeah, within the context of our and general expectations.
Speaker 1: Donzo or not Donezo, is there still time to right
Speaker 1: the ship get things going on a better course. Let's
Speaker 1: start with the Syracuse Orange Dan, Yeah, Dunzo. We're not
Speaker 1: done So I am out agree. I think I agree.
Speaker 1: I'm done so on this being a team that can
Speaker 1: challenge Clemson in a letdown spot after A and M,
Speaker 1: because that was like my big thing going into the era. Sure,
Speaker 1: maybe got some players in defense. Offensively, they've got Dino
Speaker 1: Baber's coaching. He's a bright offense in mind. He'll be
Speaker 1: able to put something together. Donzo on that theory, and
Speaker 1: I'm definitely done so on this being a team that
Speaker 1: can win nine or ten games. They just haven't looked good.
Speaker 2: I'm hearing early upset call against the Crossaders late September
Speaker 2: from you. That's what I'm hearing. That's what I'm interpreting
Speaker 2: my captain as saying. So they have Clemson at home,
Speaker 2: carry it home. I think that's the night game, right,
Speaker 2: It's the night game on ABC. A couple winnable weeks,
Speaker 2: Western Michigan, Holy Cross, and then there's just no gimmeis
Speaker 2: there's just no gimmes the rest of the way. NC
Speaker 2: State pit Florida State. I know, I hear you, I
Speaker 2: hear you. Not a gimme. It's at Florida State, Boston College, Duke, Louisville,
Speaker 2: Wake Forest, So this Syracuse team, which should get pretty
Speaker 2: good quarterback play and I think is pretty good upfront
Speaker 2: on defense, I just am not seeing it. I'm not
Speaker 2: you know, when you when you give up as much
Speaker 2: as they did against Maryland, when the offensive line looked
Speaker 2: like what it did against Liberty Week one. Issues there
Speaker 2: not being able to run the ball with any sort
Speaker 2: of consistency. I know that's what Dino Babers wants to do.
Speaker 2: He wants that like power spread running the ball. I
Speaker 2: don't see it. I'm not there. I think Syracuse goes
Speaker 2: to a bowl game. But I thought last year was
Speaker 2: a series of not fortunate because they made their own luck.
Speaker 2: But it was a good year to be pretty good
Speaker 2: in the ACC, That's all I'll say. And they had
Speaker 2: a veteran quarterback and they did Doungee correct. So I'm
Speaker 2: gonna say, Donze.
Speaker 1: What about the Michigan Wolverines.
Speaker 2: Dan, I'm very close to Dunzo Wow, but I just
Speaker 2: can't fully get there. So I'm gonna say not Dunzo
Speaker 2: because of the defense, because of questions I have about
Speaker 2: the teams on their schedule, and it's a tough schedule,
Speaker 2: even though I think Notre Dame is in an arbor.
Speaker 2: This season, it's it's teetering, it's Dunzo adjacent. But I'm
Speaker 2: gonna say no. Because of the combination of defense and quarterback.
Speaker 2: I'm still a little bit of a Shape Patterson believer
Speaker 2: with the receivers and sometimes moving over to a new offense,
Speaker 2: it just takes reps. And so that's why I can't
Speaker 2: fully go don So you ever.
Speaker 1: Try to install an app that gets stuck for sure,
Speaker 1: and you've got that little spinny thing the worse on
Speaker 1: the phone and you can't figure out, like what am I?
Speaker 1: What am I supposed to do here? Am I supposed
Speaker 1: to wait it out and see if it completes and
Speaker 1: if it turns the appropriate color? Or am I supposed
Speaker 1: to hold down on the app, click the X and
Speaker 1: start the whole dang thing over right. That's where I'm
Speaker 1: at with Michigan's offense right now, Like we still can't
Speaker 1: use it, you know, it's not usable to the fullest
Speaker 1: extent at this point. I think Josh Gattis is going
Speaker 1: to get it eventually, And there's so much talent here.
Speaker 1: They're two to zero. It hasn't always been pretty, but
Speaker 1: the entire seasons in front of Michigan. The installation, eventually,
Speaker 1: even though it hasn't gone smoothly, will take hold. There's
Speaker 1: still plenty of time for that to manifest. I am
Speaker 1: not done so much.
Speaker 2: Will it take hold against a team who has given
Speaker 2: up literally zero points this year Wisconsin their next game
Speaker 2: after a bye week, I'm not sure about that. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure about that.
Speaker 1: But I'm also not sure that Jack Cohne is going
Speaker 1: to have much passing success the way he did last
Speaker 1: week against a really good Michigan defense.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I have a very excited game. Penn State
Speaker 2: has been a thorn in State College Notre Dame. It's
Speaker 2: the back half of this schedule is tricky.
Speaker 1: I'm not done so yet.
Speaker 2: Okay, were UCLA?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Can? I was gonna say, before we get to UCLA,
Speaker 1: can we just do a universal Dunzo in UCLA.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: The first two weeks for UCLA could not have gone
Speaker 1: much worse. And I know we were in disagreement after
Speaker 1: our Thursday show last week when I picked bravely picked
Speaker 1: San Diego State just to cover over UCLA. Didn't think
Speaker 1: they'd win.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Sorry, So here we are now owing to clearly the
Speaker 1: UCLA natives growing a bit restless with chip Kelly, seemed
Speaker 1: like they had a ton of talent coming back. I mean,
Speaker 1: was obviously going to take a little bit for the
Speaker 1: Chipper system to fully be implemented. But we're at a
Speaker 1: real weird place now with UCLA.
Speaker 2: How sometimes when you buy a piece of refurbished electronics,
Speaker 2: they'll tell you the exact like they'll grade the condition
Speaker 2: it's in yep, like out of ten, they'll say it's
Speaker 2: a seven plus some scuffs. Sometimes you got to restart it.
Speaker 2: That's what it may be that Chip Kelly is right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in terms.
Speaker 2: Of a refurbished coach with some scuffs and some issues
Speaker 2: like once you take it, it's yours, snow returns. And
Speaker 2: I think UCLA might be in that place this year,
Speaker 2: maybe after you restarted enough in a year. Everything seems
Speaker 2: to be smoothly working out. But at Oklahoma and Wazoo
Speaker 2: against this UCLA team these next couple weeks and then
Speaker 2: that's before Khalil Tate on the road, it's a problem.
Speaker 2: I know Stanford well, I think Stanford will probably have
Speaker 2: kJ Castello back hopefully by mid October when they play,
Speaker 2: and the bummer is this This would have been a
Speaker 2: great year for UCLA to really improve, and they still might.
Speaker 2: No Oregon, no Washington from the north. This was a
Speaker 2: eight year Yeah, and I don't see it. I just don't.
Speaker 2: I think they just especially on offense, they don't have
Speaker 2: a dude at quarterback. They don't have three quarters of
Speaker 2: a dude at quarterback. I don't think the line's all
Speaker 2: that good. I don't think the skill talent. I mean,
Speaker 2: Josh Kelly is I think pretty good. But I don't
Speaker 2: know what we're seeing from UCLA. I mean what we've
Speaker 2: seen from ucle is not great. I just they're done
Speaker 2: all right, two last ones here very quickly. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: could West Virginia Donzell, I'm donzel as well. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: that's not saying much because I was done so before
Speaker 2: the season.
Speaker 1: This was not going to be a good team. It's
Speaker 1: going to take a little bit for Neil Brown. I
Speaker 1: think eventually he'll get there with them.
Speaker 2: Yeah. On that before the year, I liked them.
Speaker 1: We did. Yeah, but I'm not a huge West Virginia fan.
Speaker 1: It's just going to take time. So we agree now
Speaker 1: on West Virginia, we.
Speaker 2: Agree schedule is workable for a decent team. But I
Speaker 2: think especially on offense, it's too rough right now. Maybe
Speaker 2: they're feisty by the end of the year, but now
Speaker 2: it sort of looks like not really bullish.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Okay, And our final subject here is Kentucky.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was very quick last year to dismiss Kentucky and
Speaker 1: it was an incredible season. I'm gonna hold my fire
Speaker 1: for now because I don't want to rub salt in
Speaker 1: the womb like. It just sucks that Terry Wilson went down.
Speaker 1: For sure, He's a good kid. It sucks to see
Speaker 1: that happen. I want to see what Sawyer Smith can
Speaker 1: do against Florida before I make a judgment here. But
Speaker 1: needless to say, your starting quarterback goes down, that that
Speaker 1: puts a lot of the season's plans in peril.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got a couple of tough ones right away
Speaker 2: Florida and they traveled to Starfield to take on the Dowgs,
Speaker 2: the Bill Dowgs Mississippi State. I'm gonna say Dunzel, Dunzell.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Dunzel. And I don't think it's necessarily
Speaker 2: because of the quarterback situation. I think it might be
Speaker 2: a little more on the defense with what they have
Speaker 2: in front of them, I think Florida's improved on offense.
Speaker 2: We'll see what the status of Tommy Stevens is. I
Speaker 2: haven't seen anything recently in his upper body situation, his
Speaker 2: shoulder whatever. I like Ryan Helenski at South Carolina. I
Speaker 2: think Georgia is gonna be quite strong back half of
Speaker 2: their schedule, though, that's where it sneaks up. And I
Speaker 2: think even with a backup quarterback, that could wiggle themselves
Speaker 2: into Bowl eligibility. Seven wins, but it's gonna take a
Speaker 2: little bit. And from what we've seen early against Toledo
Speaker 2: in Eastern Michigan, I'm a little bit worried about this defense.
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit worried. Okay, so I'm gonna say donezo.
Speaker 2: So there you go.
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Speaker 2: Do you get seasick? My guess is yes, oh no, no,
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Speaker 2: time you were on a boat?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 2: Good question. I was on a boat last summer. Okay, Yeah,
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