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Speaker 1: Lieutenant Dan Rubinstein. Welcome aboard the two's cruise here where

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Speaker 1: we talk more college football.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why I got a little Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: It is Tuesday morning, Dan and I are back with

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Speaker 1: you once more to talk through what it all means. Really, yeah,

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Speaker 1: good talking more college football, sir?

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Speaker 1: You remember those like old Maden mini games that you'd have,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say it's chapter one, and I know

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Speaker 1: So this has been a theme to some degree with

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Speaker 2: I've got chapter one, I've got another Chapter one. I

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Speaker 1: much on bo Nicks. He's a freshman quarterback. I think

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Speaker 1: They need to get it worked worked out here and

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Speaker 1: as you mentioned, beat up wide receiving corps. The running

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Speaker 1: This is like chapter three after the last two seasons.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and when you look at their schedule too, I

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Speaker 2: and that's a week after LSU. So there's body blow

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Speaker 2: theory potential. We'll see, we will see. But I'm saying

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Speaker 2: chapter one.

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Speaker 1: We're going next.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to something you're familiar with, Notre Dame and

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Speaker 2: their rush defense. Now, they struggled early on against Losall. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Next one, Texas is past defense Dan. Yeah, we saw

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Speaker 2: I feel okay about the Texas pass defense. I do.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to be down for longer

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Speaker 1: Okay, we disagree.

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Speaker 2: I mean the lot the Taylor, Cornelius Will Greer losses

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Speaker 1: We disagree is moving on final one here the Washington

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Speaker 2: Because it was rough against Cal? It was rough and

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Speaker 2: it was sort of twofold. Because I really like Washington's

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Speaker 2: You know, talent for plays, talent for situations, but overall,

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Speaker 2: I think their strongest at tight end, and that's worrisome

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Speaker 2: a bad year to have both a questionable receiving corps

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Speaker 2: the conference, right, that is a thing. I don't want

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Speaker 2: You know, I think Washington State it's at home and

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Speaker 2: losing a Cal and it suddenly becomes a lot dicier.

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Speaker 1: You missed a prime opportunity instead of roadblock to stay blockade.

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Speaker 1: Remember international high sees, Dan, this is the two's crew.

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Speaker 1: I'm not ready to be that worried yet. Okay, there

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Speaker 2: Sorry, here's a sub question I think is the raciest, hottest,

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Speaker 2: takiest question I could possibly ask. Was the Cow game

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Speaker 2: That you're a big cow head. No I was.

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Speaker 1: Everybody knows that about you, cowhead. No, I don't think

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Speaker 1: This question goes away in a week because Washington has Hawaii,

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Speaker 2: As far as I can tell, Hawaii is two and

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Speaker 1: Let's do this, Let's do this. Yeah, let's put this

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Speaker 1: What is our next mini game? Here?

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Speaker 2: I see pump of the breaks? Yeah, all right, so

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Speaker 2: this is quite simple. This is sort of similar to

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Speaker 2: and you say, yeah, we should pump the brakes, relax

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Speaker 2: This is a problem, this specifically problem. Yeah, I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: I always are.

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Speaker 2: You. You're five for five in these teams. Well, we

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just saying that My problem with games like

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Speaker 2: We do get We get notes all the time from

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Speaker 2: All right, pump the breaks? North Carolina?

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Speaker 1: Tie?

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Speaker 2: Are we pumping some breaks?

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Speaker 1: I'm all in, I'm all in. I got the need, baby.

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Speaker 2: I think they hit a wall. I'm gonna pump those breaks.

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Speaker 1: Did you see Mac Brown's robotic dance after week one?

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Speaker 2: Did you see Mac Brown almost give away two straight

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Speaker 1: Excuse me the quarterback who has a Yeah, sounds wonderful,

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Speaker 2: The thing that you have going for you and running

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Speaker 2: There's not a lot of tough certainty on this schedule

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Speaker 1: See here's the thing. Yeah, there were no expectations for

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Speaker 2: I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 1: Our next one up here is Maryland America's team. Yeah,

435
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Speaker 1: this is Maryland's another house money situation. Yeah, because nobody

436
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Speaker 1: thought they'd be all that good. Now through two weeks,

437
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Speaker 1: they've got the top scoring offense in college football, and

438
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Speaker 1: after they toasted my Syracuse Orange last week, it is,

439
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Speaker 1: I think hard not to look at this team and

440
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Speaker 1: be very excited.

441
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Speaker 2: I'm with you to I've got the need for speed

442
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Speaker 2: with the terps.

443
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Speaker 1: Let's do it.

444
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Speaker 2: I'm I'm ripping the brakes out of the floor of

445
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Speaker 2: this boat. That's where the breaks are, right. Probably not

446
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Speaker 2: sure Temple Penn State Friday night at home, short week, Yeah, yeah,

447
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 2: Rutger is not super good perdue kind of disappointing early

448
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 2: a little bit, even though Elijah Sindelar had a nice week. Indiana, Minnesota.

449
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Speaker 2: Who has been below average? I think Michigan, Ohio State, Nebraska,

450
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Speaker 2: Michigan State. I have questions about everybody on their schedule

451
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Speaker 2: except for probably Ohio State. In terms of if Maryland's

452
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Speaker 2: scoring with anybody. As we already know they can score

453
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Speaker 2: with Ohio State. Yes, yeah, that's been proven. Oh yeah,

454
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Speaker 2: and I think Maryland's better than they were last year offensively,

455
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Speaker 2: So I'm all in. Yeah, I don't want any part

456
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Speaker 2: of breaking this. And that's b R A K I

457
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Speaker 2: n G. This turp train.

458
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Speaker 1: Maybe going to a bowl this year. I feel pretty

459
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Speaker 1: good about that. They need four wins, maybe going to

460
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Speaker 1: a ball, which would be a coup for you know,

461
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Speaker 1: any first year coach, but certainly in this case here

462
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Speaker 1: with Mike Loxley, who, as we've joked time and again,

463
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Speaker 1: knows the DMV. Now he brings Josh Jackson into the fold,

464
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Speaker 1: he's been an absolute revelation at quarterbacks, seems very comfortable

465
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Speaker 1: in the system. The running game's been outstanding. This is

466
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Speaker 1: another one, I think where we got to reevaluate at

467
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Speaker 1: some point, maybe after Maryland plays Penn State. All right,

468
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: in two weeks, but stick a booie in it. As

469
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Speaker 1: for now, let's yeah, let's stick that booy in it.

470
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Speaker 1: Let's let's let ourselves get excited here. And you've been

471
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Speaker 1: out there for for the game. Where should Maryland fans

472
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Speaker 1: look to stay ahead of the Rose Bowl? Where like

473
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Speaker 1: do you stay in that like that Glendale Pasaden area

474
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Speaker 1: or downtown to get to more places, you'll go by

475
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Speaker 1: the water. Okay, let's go to Colorado here. Yeah you

476
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Speaker 1: stand on where do you stand on the buffs?

477
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Speaker 2: I'm going to say relaxed on Colorado. Yeah, I'm going

478
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Speaker 2: to say relaxed because of what their defenses look like

479
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Speaker 2: in first halves. And I don't think you can build

480
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Speaker 2: a seven eight six, seven eight win team around needing

481
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Speaker 2: to scrap and come back every week. Now that they

482
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Speaker 2: had to do that against Colorado State, they gave up

483
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 2: a good chunk of points against the Rams, I don't

484
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Speaker 2: think are all that good. And with how they fell

485
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Speaker 2: behind against Nebraska, I think there's going to be depth

486
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Speaker 2: issues and I think there's going to be bad habit

487
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Speaker 2: issues on defense. So as fun as they can be

488
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Speaker 2: on offense, which they one can be, I say, yeah,

489
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Speaker 2: the Nebraska was exciting, but if you need that to

490
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Speaker 2: beat an okay, Big ten West team, which is where

491
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Speaker 2: I'm at with Nebraska right now, it's not a good sign.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. I think Colorado can win six

493
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Speaker 1: or seven games. The problem is they're all going to

494
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Speaker 1: have to be games like we saw this past weekend, which,

495
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Speaker 1: by the way, I'm fine with that was a hell

496
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Speaker 1: of a.

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Speaker 2: Game from an entertainment perspective, From an.

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Speaker 1: Entertainment standpoint, from a fans, if you're a Colorado fan,

499
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Speaker 1: if you're if you're yeah, if you're Rich and Boulder,

500
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: who's listening to this show forever?

501
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 2: Yeah? Maybe not so much, Okay, but.

502
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Speaker 1: Enjoy Stevie Montees and Leaviska Channelt Junior may I while

503
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Speaker 1: they're still in Boulder.

504
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Speaker 2: May I present what their schedule looks like from Friday,

505
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Speaker 2: October eleventh on. Yes, Oregon, Washington, State, usc Hey, Ucla, Stanford,

506
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Speaker 2: Washington at Utah. That's tough.

507
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Speaker 1: That is as tough ask.

508
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 2: And that's at Oregon at Wazoo. Yeah, that's a tough ask. Yeah, Okay,

509
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 2: that's all I have. So we agree in Colorado is

510
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 2: do we have any other ones in uh pumping the brakes?

511
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Speaker 2: We do? We have a couple more. Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts.

512
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Speaker 2: Now the break pumping question is Heisman. Heisman is Jalen

513
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Speaker 2: Hurts like four miles away from me in early December,

514
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 2: I see in Manhattan, because right now he is the

515
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Speaker 2: best quarterback in the country statistically, granted, it's Houston and

516
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Speaker 2: whoever they played this past week, Jalen Hurts is putting

517
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Speaker 2: up stupid numbers in the most Heisman friendly offense in

518
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Speaker 2: the country, with an incredible receiving corps, with incredible running backs,

519
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Speaker 2: with great offensive line development recently, Jalen Hurts New York

520
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 2: or New York adjacent quarterback?

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Speaker 1: It's an interesting question.

522
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Speaker 2: That's Elizabeth New Jersey. By the way, is New York adjacent?

523
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's an interesting question. I wonder if Trevor

524
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: Lawrence and Travis etn split the vote.

525
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 2: At some level.

526
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Speaker 1: Disagree, But okay, I am wow, this is a good question.

527
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Speaker 1: So you didn't write Heisman on your initial life.

528
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Speaker 2: I didn't know. I'm just saying, okay, So in the

529
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Speaker 2: context of this game, it's just does your excitement about

530
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: this no no bounds or are you protecting your heart?

531
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Speaker 1: I'm not protecting my heart, I think so. Here's why

532
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: I'm not protecting my heart. Yeah, because Kyler Murray and

533
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield happened in the last two years, right, And I

534
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: feel pretty comfortable that Lincoln Riley's good enough with his offense.

535
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: He's ready using him a little differently, which we can

536
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Speaker 1: get into, but I feel pretty confident that he will

537
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: find a way to utilize his skill set. And I

538
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Speaker 1: do feel pretty confident that Jalen Hurts will be in

539
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: New York. I feel good about that. I'm totally with you.

540
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: I am totally completely with you. These are the defenses

541
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Speaker 1: that they have the rest of the season. So even

542
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Speaker 1: if Jalen Hurts is you know, has an uneven weak

543
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Speaker 1: or two UCLA Texas Tech, who I think should be

544
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Speaker 1: okay this year, Kansas Texas, who you don't like, You're

545
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Speaker 1: on the record, you don't like their past defense yet

546
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Speaker 1: to me, West Virginia, who I think is going to

547
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Speaker 1: be a little bit tricky defensively, I just don't know

548
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Speaker 1: if it'll be this year. Kansas State, new coach, new year,

549
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 1: will see. I think they're gonna be feisty. Iowa State,

550
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Speaker 1: who's been a thorn for Oklahoma Baylor, who they roughed

551
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Speaker 1: up last year. TCU sure okay, Oklahoma State not so sure.

552
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Speaker 1: I think it's all for the taken for Jalen Hurts,

553
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: neat for speed. He's got nine total touchdowns in two games,

554
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Speaker 1: and it is hard not to be excited, especially when

555
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: you see him run.

556
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I cannot stress this enough. He's a different kind of

558
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Speaker 1: runner than Baker Mayfield and Kyler Murray. Those guys were

559
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: really good at jumping around in the pocket to give

560
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: themselves more time to throw a.

561
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 2: Little more slight, speedy guys. Jalen Hurts.

562
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look there, I hear people yelling at me already.

563
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: There were plenty of designed runs for both of them. Sure,

564
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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts is a lot bigger. He's got really good moves,

565
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: and he wants to take you one. He wants to

566
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Speaker 1: take guys on. I don't know if he's as good

567
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: a passer as either Baker or Kyler. My sense is no.

568
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: But he's a different kind of runner, and I think

569
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Speaker 1: that's what Lincoln Riley's going to latch onto. He's going

570
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Speaker 1: to find ways to create matchup advantages for the Oklahoma

571
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: Sooners offense, knowing that he's got that skill set. So

572
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Speaker 1: I think we're in strong agreement here that Jalen Hurts

573
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Speaker 1: has a remarkable season, ends up in New York. Maybe

574
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: doesn't win the Hives, but who cares. And right here,

575
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: the thing is the more dangerous the runner at quarterback.

576
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: The more a defense needs to dedicate somebody to spying

577
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Speaker 1: on him, which opens things up even more for this

578
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma shortens thank and Riley he has something nobody else has.

579
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Speaker 1: He has the best offensive mine in the sport final one.

580
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Speaker 2: LSU, are we pumping the brakes on you are saying

581
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 2: the Texas past defense is I mean you didn't say

582
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,959
Speaker 2: done though, but you said the Texas past defense. It's

583
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Speaker 2: just chapter one in a long season of issues. Yes,

584
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Speaker 2: So that leads me to believe that there's at least

585
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Speaker 2: part of you that says, I don't know if I

586
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 2: fully believe in LSU because they went up against a

587
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 2: suspect pass defense in Texas.

588
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: So that deep breath you heard that long tail, Yeah,

589
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: I'm tickling me that. You know, it's heart versus head.

590
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: That is me overruling my heart, going back to my

591
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: head a little bit. I'm trying to play this a

592
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: little bit more logically.

593
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Speaker 2: They've got defenses coming up.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say to relax, and it's for a reason

595
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Speaker 1: that you mentioned on Sunday's recap. Texas is not back.

596
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: They are not back. Okay, if anyone's got the question,

597
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: they are not back, and it has not been the

598
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: best early season measuring stick the last couple of years.

599
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: The Texas Longhorns.

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Speaker 2: Okay, take anything away from what LSU did and LSU

601
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: in early years. In early games these past few years,

602
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 2: they've had the really nice offensive moments.

603
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: LSU was phenomenal against Texas, but this is more a

604
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: bet against Texas as a measuring stick than anything that

605
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: LSU did. Okay, this is all I'm saying here. I

606
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: think the offensive renaissance is legit for what it's worth.

607
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: I don't think it's smoking mirrors. I think Joe Burrow

608
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: is going to have a great year. But I just

609
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Speaker 1: I want to get another data point against a Power

610
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Speaker 1: five team before we remove the brakes out of the

611
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Speaker 1: bottom of the boat. If that's where they are, we

612
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: we just we pull the anchor.

613
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Speaker 2: Up hunt at the engine. Well, so as soon as

614
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: they play Vandy on the road power in their next

615
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: Power five opponent, you will have an official ruling.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, I mean it helps, it helps, But

617
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Speaker 1: I'm talking a better opponent, better caliber opponent.

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Speaker 2: So you're Florida or Starkville in mid October, Okay, that

619
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Speaker 2: would be nice.

620
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Speaker 1: I'd be nice to see I have the need for speed.

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Speaker 2: I'm all in. I'm just all in, completely in. I

622
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 2: want to be an early adopter. I am pushing my

623
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 2: chips to the center. I want to go back like

624
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 2: one of those horrible, horrible Silicon Valley investors was like,

625
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: I was it on Square and Uber early. I was

626
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: with the Series eight. I'm Series A for the LSU offense.

627
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: I'm in.

628
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: Okay, that's it.

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Speaker 2: I don't hold back. I'm not protecting my heart.

630
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: Our final game before we let to find.

631
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 2: People Gonzo, Donzo or not dun So.

632
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: Here is the way this game works. We've got five

633
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: teams before us. We're going to rattle through all of

634
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Speaker 1: them and decide if we think they are Donezo, I

635
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: E are they done?

636
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean it's just after two weeks. Can we

637
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: cross them off the list of teams that will be good, scary,

638
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 2: feisty whatever in late October?

639
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: It is more relative to our own personal expectations for

640
00:32:58,640 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: these teams.

641
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, within the context of our and general expectations.

642
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: Donzo or not Donezo, is there still time to right

643
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: the ship get things going on a better course. Let's

644
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: start with the Syracuse Orange Dan, Yeah, Dunzo. We're not

645
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: done So I am out agree. I think I agree.

646
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: I'm done so on this being a team that can

647
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: challenge Clemson in a letdown spot after A and M,

648
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: because that was like my big thing going into the era. Sure,

649
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: maybe got some players in defense. Offensively, they've got Dino

650
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: Baber's coaching. He's a bright offense in mind. He'll be

651
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: able to put something together. Donzo on that theory, and

652
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: I'm definitely done so on this being a team that

653
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: can win nine or ten games. They just haven't looked good.

654
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 2: I'm hearing early upset call against the Crossaders late September

655
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: from you. That's what I'm hearing. That's what I'm interpreting

656
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 2: my captain as saying. So they have Clemson at home,

657
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 2: carry it home. I think that's the night game, right,

658
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 2: It's the night game on ABC. A couple winnable weeks,

659
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 2: Western Michigan, Holy Cross, and then there's just no gimmeis

660
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 2: there's just no gimmes the rest of the way. NC

661
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 2: State pit Florida State. I know, I hear you, I

662
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: hear you. Not a gimme. It's at Florida State, Boston College, Duke, Louisville,

663
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 2: Wake Forest, So this Syracuse team, which should get pretty

664
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: good quarterback play and I think is pretty good upfront

665
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 2: on defense, I just am not seeing it. I'm not

666
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: you know, when you when you give up as much

667
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 2: as they did against Maryland, when the offensive line looked

668
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,479
Speaker 2: like what it did against Liberty Week one. Issues there

669
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 2: not being able to run the ball with any sort

670
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 2: of consistency. I know that's what Dino Babers wants to do.

671
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 2: He wants that like power spread running the ball. I

672
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 2: don't see it. I'm not there. I think Syracuse goes

673
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: to a bowl game. But I thought last year was

674
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 2: a series of not fortunate because they made their own luck.

675
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: But it was a good year to be pretty good

676
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 2: in the ACC, That's all I'll say. And they had

677
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 2: a veteran quarterback and they did Doungee correct. So I'm

678
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 2: gonna say, Donze.

679
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: What about the Michigan Wolverines.

680
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: Dan, I'm very close to Dunzo Wow, but I just

681
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 2: can't fully get there. So I'm gonna say not Dunzo

682
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: because of the defense, because of questions I have about

683
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: the teams on their schedule, and it's a tough schedule,

684
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: even though I think Notre Dame is in an arbor.

685
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 2: This season, it's it's teetering, it's Dunzo adjacent. But I'm

686
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 2: gonna say no. Because of the combination of defense and quarterback.

687
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 2: I'm still a little bit of a Shape Patterson believer

688
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 2: with the receivers and sometimes moving over to a new offense,

689
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: it just takes reps. And so that's why I can't

690
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: fully go don So you ever.

691
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: Try to install an app that gets stuck for sure,

692
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: and you've got that little spinny thing the worse on

693
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: the phone and you can't figure out, like what am I?

694
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 1: What am I supposed to do here? Am I supposed

695
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: to wait it out and see if it completes and

696
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: if it turns the appropriate color? Or am I supposed

697
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: to hold down on the app, click the X and

698
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: start the whole dang thing over right. That's where I'm

699
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: at with Michigan's offense right now, Like we still can't

700
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 1: use it, you know, it's not usable to the fullest

701
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: extent at this point. I think Josh Gattis is going

702
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: to get it eventually, And there's so much talent here.

703
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: They're two to zero. It hasn't always been pretty, but

704
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: the entire seasons in front of Michigan. The installation, eventually,

705
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: even though it hasn't gone smoothly, will take hold. There's

706
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 1: still plenty of time for that to manifest. I am

707
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: not done so much.

708
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,439
Speaker 2: Will it take hold against a team who has given

709
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 2: up literally zero points this year Wisconsin their next game

710
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 2: after a bye week, I'm not sure about that. I'm

711
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 2: not sure about that.

712
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: But I'm also not sure that Jack Cohne is going

713
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: to have much passing success the way he did last

714
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: week against a really good Michigan defense.

715
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I have a very excited game. Penn State

716
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 2: has been a thorn in State College Notre Dame. It's

717
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: the back half of this schedule is tricky.

718
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: I'm not done so yet.

719
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 2: Okay, were UCLA?

720
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? Can? I was gonna say, before we get to UCLA,

721
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: can we just do a universal Dunzo in UCLA.

722
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 2: I think.

723
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: The first two weeks for UCLA could not have gone

724
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 1: much worse. And I know we were in disagreement after

725
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,959
Speaker 1: our Thursday show last week when I picked bravely picked

726
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: San Diego State just to cover over UCLA. Didn't think

727
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: they'd win.

728
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

729
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: Sorry, So here we are now owing to clearly the

730
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: UCLA natives growing a bit restless with chip Kelly, seemed

731
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 1: like they had a ton of talent coming back. I mean,

732
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: was obviously going to take a little bit for the

733
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: Chipper system to fully be implemented. But we're at a

734
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: real weird place now with UCLA.

735
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 2: How sometimes when you buy a piece of refurbished electronics,

736
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 2: they'll tell you the exact like they'll grade the condition

737
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: it's in yep, like out of ten, they'll say it's

738
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: a seven plus some scuffs. Sometimes you got to restart it.

739
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: That's what it may be that Chip Kelly is right now.

740
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, in terms.

741
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 2: Of a refurbished coach with some scuffs and some issues

742
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: like once you take it, it's yours, snow returns. And

743
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 2: I think UCLA might be in that place this year,

744
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 2: maybe after you restarted enough in a year. Everything seems

745
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 2: to be smoothly working out. But at Oklahoma and Wazoo

746
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 2: against this UCLA team these next couple weeks and then

747
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 2: that's before Khalil Tate on the road, it's a problem.

748
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 2: I know Stanford well, I think Stanford will probably have

749
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 2: kJ Castello back hopefully by mid October when they play,

750
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 2: and the bummer is this This would have been a

751
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 2: great year for UCLA to really improve, and they still might.

752
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 2: No Oregon, no Washington from the north. This was a

753
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 2: eight year Yeah, and I don't see it. I just don't.

754
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 2: I think they just especially on offense, they don't have

755
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: a dude at quarterback. They don't have three quarters of

756
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: a dude at quarterback. I don't think the line's all

757
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 2: that good. I don't think the skill talent. I mean,

758
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 2: Josh Kelly is I think pretty good. But I don't

759
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: know what we're seeing from UCLA. I mean what we've

760
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: seen from ucle is not great. I just they're done

761
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 2: all right, two last ones here very quickly. Yeah, we

762
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 2: could West Virginia Donzell, I'm donzel as well. Yeah, but

763
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 2: that's not saying much because I was done so before

764
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 2: the season.

765
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: This was not going to be a good team. It's

766
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: going to take a little bit for Neil Brown. I

767
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: think eventually he'll get there with them.

768
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. On that before the year, I liked them.

769
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: We did. Yeah, but I'm not a huge West Virginia fan.

770
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: It's just going to take time. So we agree now

771
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 1: on West Virginia, we.

772
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 2: Agree schedule is workable for a decent team. But I

773
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 2: think especially on offense, it's too rough right now. Maybe

774
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: they're feisty by the end of the year, but now

775
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 2: it sort of looks like not really bullish.

776
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, Okay, And our final subject here is Kentucky.

777
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

778
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: I was very quick last year to dismiss Kentucky and

779
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 1: it was an incredible season. I'm gonna hold my fire

780
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: for now because I don't want to rub salt in

781
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,439
Speaker 1: the womb like. It just sucks that Terry Wilson went down.

782
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,959
Speaker 1: For sure, He's a good kid. It sucks to see

783
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: that happen. I want to see what Sawyer Smith can

784
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: do against Florida before I make a judgment here. But

785
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: needless to say, your starting quarterback goes down, that that

786
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: puts a lot of the season's plans in peril.

787
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got a couple of tough ones right away

788
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: Florida and they traveled to Starfield to take on the Dowgs,

789
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 2: the Bill Dowgs Mississippi State. I'm gonna say Dunzel, Dunzell.

790
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Dunzel. And I don't think it's necessarily

791
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: because of the quarterback situation. I think it might be

792
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 2: a little more on the defense with what they have

793
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 2: in front of them, I think Florida's improved on offense.

794
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 2: We'll see what the status of Tommy Stevens is. I

795
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 2: haven't seen anything recently in his upper body situation, his

796
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 2: shoulder whatever. I like Ryan Helenski at South Carolina. I

797
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: think Georgia is gonna be quite strong back half of

798
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 2: their schedule, though, that's where it sneaks up. And I

799
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 2: think even with a backup quarterback, that could wiggle themselves

800
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 2: into Bowl eligibility. Seven wins, but it's gonna take a

801
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: little bit. And from what we've seen early against Toledo

802
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 2: in Eastern Michigan, I'm a little bit worried about this defense.

803
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit worried. Okay, so I'm gonna say donezo.

804
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 2: So there you go.

805
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: Thank you for hopping aboard these cruise here.

806
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:49,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been great.

807
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: Captain Tye's Lieutenant Dan. We're gonna roll with this whole

808
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: little metaphor the entire seaton.

809
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: Do you get seasick? My guess is yes, oh no, no,

810
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 2: solid as a rock. I love boats, love them. You

811
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: love boats. I enjoy boats as well, So I'm glad

812
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 2: that this is the twos cruise. When was the last

813
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 2: time you were on a boat?

814
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: Wow?

815
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 2: Good question. I was on a boat last summer. Okay, Yeah,

816
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 2: I took a fairy a couple of weeks ago, maybe

817
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 2: a month ago with the Solid Baby. He loved it,

818
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 2: loved it great. So I feel like this is all

819
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 2: app and appropriate for what we're doing. We disagreed in

820
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 2: a number of places, but I think we can agree

821
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 2: maybe the best twos cruise we've ever voyaged upon.

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Speaker 1: Some would say the inaugural tuess. Yes, that's true. Thank

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Speaker 1: you to one, Thank you to all for stopping on

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Speaker 1: by here. Hope you enjoyed the show. We'll be back

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Speaker 1: on Thursday morning to preview all of the week three action.

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