1 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: It's nineteen degrees in Jacksonville, thirteen in Blackpool. 2 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 2: Do my mum's from Blackpool? It's nice black Ball, fourteen 3 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: in Belfast. 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: This is Till Talk, the official Jacksonville Jaguars, UK and 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: Ireland podcast, presented by Gallagher. 6 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 2: I'm Jay Lawrence, no relation. 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: He's Kira Am Suran Key. It's another victory podcast. 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 3: Did you just say it's nice in Blackpool? 9 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? 10 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 3: I like Blackpool. Okay, let's move on. Yes, another victory podcast. 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 3: Absolutely fantastic. What a great couple of weeks. Man Like, unbelievable. 12 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 3: I can get used to this. I'm not gonna lie 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 3: to you this time. 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: The Jags triumphant in the divisional game with the Cls. 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: I saw so many people, by the way, Key saying 16 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: that this is and to quote, this is the biggest 17 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: let's put this in context, the biggest probably regular season 18 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: game ever for the Jags. I heard people say everything 19 00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: in the Jags hands now thirty six nineteen over Indianapolis, 20 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: top of the AFC South. We're going to talk about 21 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: all of that in a moment with Jason Bell. But 22 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: first we will see you on Sunday. We're getting together 23 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: for our Christmas d at the Greenwood Pub in Victoria 24 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: in London, where we'll be recording an episode of Till 25 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: Talk whilst also watching the Jets Jags game December fourteenth. 26 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: So just to be clear that this upcoming Sunday you 27 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: are invite, would love to see you there, love for 28 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: you to come on down if you fancy, you know, 29 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: a festive get together with some of your mates. 30 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: The Greenwood has tables available that. 31 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: You can book via the Sports London website at Sport 32 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: London dot com under Greenwood. Those details are also on 33 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: Janguars dot co dot UK. We'd love to see you there. 34 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna watch hopefully the Jags win against the Jets 35 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: and key this. There's some stuff going on, there's some 36 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: stuff that's going to be available to win, so. 37 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say right. Sarah from Jags UK has 38 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 3: just been showing us a few options of what might 39 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 3: be given away on Sunday and I said I'd take 40 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 3: any one of those things. 41 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 42 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: The one thing that we can say is definitely going 43 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: to be up for grabs is a signed Travon Walker jersey, 44 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: which is amazing and I am not eligible to get it, so. 45 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 3: Worth the trip alone. Just for that thing. 46 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: In my opinion, yeah, absolutely, And look, I'll tell you what, 47 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: more than anything else, it'd be really nice to have 48 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: a get together and just talk Jags whilst watching Jags. 49 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: We'd never get to talk and you j do we Yeah, yeah, 50 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: I know exactly. It's not as if we have a 51 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: weekly time set in the diary. But I'm really looking 52 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,119 Speaker 1: forward to this anyway. I'm just going to repeat how 53 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: you can you know, book a table. It's at the 54 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: Greenwood Pub in Victoria in London if you go to 55 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: the Sport London website that's Sport London dot com under Greenwood. 56 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: Those details as well are on Jaguars dot co dot UK. 57 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: All right, let's onto that victory then, shall we. 58 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: And you know, it's just great going into this game 59 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: against the Jets actually with that huge victory over the. 60 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 2: Colts and this is fun. This is fun. 61 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: I mean I saw that coach Cohen said, I don't 62 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: know if we will ever get any respect, but that's fine, 63 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: and I. 64 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: Kind of think, do you know what, I don't need respect. 65 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 2: I don't need respect, do you know what? 66 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 4: Aside? 67 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 1: We just need w's just need those victories, just need 68 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: those victories and It's been a great few weeks, and 69 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: let's just quickly start with what you said before. We 70 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: started key about the Jags quarterback Trevor Lawrence. 71 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 3: So we've talked about it when coach Cohen came in, 72 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 3: we talked about it with Jason and one of the 73 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: questions we asked was do we think we are yet 74 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 3: to see the best of Trevor Lawrence. We got a 75 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 3: definitive answer to that on Sunday, which is yes, because 76 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 3: that is the best I have seen Trevor Lawrence play 77 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 3: as a Jacksonville Jaguar. That is the Trevor Lawrence that 78 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 3: we have been waiting to see since college. He was 79 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 3: phenomenal on Sunday. He did so. He did the stuff 80 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 3: that he usually does, which is short, sharp passes, using 81 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: his legs when he needs to, et cetera, et cetera. 82 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 3: But the deep balls, the vision and the amount of time. Okay, 83 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 3: let's also give credit to the offensive line because that 84 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 3: they were on fire on Sunday. The amount of time 85 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 3: that Trevor Lawrence had, he's looking up his vision, he's 86 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 3: scanning the field. 87 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: Those deep balls. 88 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 3: Honestly, I think that's the best we've seen him play 89 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: as the Jacksonville Jaguar. What do you think? 90 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: I definitely agree. 91 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: And there was there was there was a brilliant throw 92 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: where he rolled out to his left and he just 93 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: you know, just it was a dart right down the line. 94 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: I can't remember who was this. 95 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: It was to Tim Portrick for the touch, Tim Patrick, 96 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: and it was it was a really great throw. And 97 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: that's the sort of throw that you see quarterbacks do 98 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: and you think that's not good because you're sort of. 99 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: Against your body. 100 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: To do that. 101 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 3: So look at so it made me think of Patrick Mahomes. 102 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 3: When Patrick Mahomes is at his best. Some of the 103 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 3: stuff that he's doing is what you're taught not to do, 104 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 3: but it's so like instinctive to do it. And when 105 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 3: you like, honestly, probably three months ago, if you watch 106 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence do that, that that that doesn't work out. 107 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 3: But at the moment it's working out. He's got confidence, 108 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 3: he's trusting in his body and his instincts are firing, 109 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 3: and so he's getting away with plays like that because 110 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 3: he's now performing at the level that we all thought 111 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 3: that he could. 112 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: I want to shout out a few receivers as well, 113 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: because it feels like that the receiver group is getting 114 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: back to full health. 115 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 3: Obviously, please tell the top of your list. 116 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jacoby Mayer's is top of the list because I 117 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: think you know, not only has he been a great 118 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: option for Trevor Lawrence over the last few weeks, but 119 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 1: what the most important thing that Jacoby Mayas has done 120 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: is he's created this focus that the defense has to 121 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: think about, which of course makes it easier for these 122 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: other players. Now, let's share your spot on your spot 123 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: on now, he only caught for thirty nine yards in 124 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 1: this game, Jacoby Myers. 125 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 3: He opened up the rest of the field for everyone else. 126 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 3: Look at the so Brian Thomas Junior is catching those 127 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 3: deep passes because the routes are so much cleaner and crisper, 128 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 3: and Jacoby Myers is like he's something has changed in 129 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 3: that receiver's room because of him. In my opinion, he's 130 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 3: made such a difference. I think credit to Brian Thomas junr. 131 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: Of course, who hasn't had the season that he would 132 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: have expected. I think that that's fair to say. Yeah, 133 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: only three receptions but for eighty seven yards, and there 134 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: were a bunch of catches. Actually, I think maybe even 135 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: all of these catches are a couple of them. At 136 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: the very least, these weren't easy, easy balls, easy catches, 137 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: So credit to Trevor Lawrence for throwing them in the 138 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: first place. Credit to Brian Thomas junior Tim Patrick with 139 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: the most receptions in this game with five. 140 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 2: And then, and we spoke about. 141 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: Earlier on this season as well, Brenton Strange coming back 142 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: into the lineup, and I think that is I mean, 143 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 1: we speak about Jacoby Myers making a difference, but that 144 00:06:58,400 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: has made a massive difference as well. 145 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 3: I just want to look as well, because that boy 146 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 3: can block well. 147 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: I just want to look at the Indianapolis Colts for 148 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: a second as well. And I know that You've got 149 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: a big opinions on this, and I'll get to those 150 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: in a second. It has to be said that despite 151 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: I want to be clear that the Jags did catch 152 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: an interception from Daniel Jones prior to him going out, 153 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: but at the same was it the same play, Actually 154 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: it might have been that same play that. 155 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: He went out later, But he is Achilles Daniel Jones. 156 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: We you know, I know that he's in opposition and 157 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 3: the Cults are in ac South team, but you never 158 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: want to see that happen to anybody. You never want 159 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 3: to see anyone go down. But you know, as well 160 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 3: as beating the Colts in a divisional matchup, that him 161 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 3: being out for the rest of the season is huge 162 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 3: for the Jags. 163 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand that. I think it's difficult, isn't it 164 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: when you talk about players. 165 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: That are injured and whatever, and. 166 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: You don't want to come across when you're pleased about it, 167 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: because that's not the case whatsoever. 168 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 2: I completely understand what you're saying. 169 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: The other thing is obviously Anthony richardson the back cup quarterback. 170 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: He's out as. 171 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: Well Riley Leonard who came in and scored a touchdown 172 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: to his credit. I suppose he could possibly be injured 173 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: for the Indianapolis Cults as well, which is bizarre. And 174 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: this is the most bizarre storyline, bizarre addition, potential addition, 175 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: and by the time that you're listen to this, you'll 176 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: know whether this has happened or not, I imagine. But the 177 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: Colts have tried out Philip rivers At, an actual grandfather 178 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: who is forty four years old, who hasn't played in 179 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: the NFL for five years. This is crazy, to be clear, 180 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: he in his time is you know, he's a potential 181 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. 182 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 4: He is. 183 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: He's not that far off or is it even that 184 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: far off from being nominated for the Hall of Fame. 185 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: That's how long it's been since he's actually played, which 186 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: is crazy. But you know, it looks like that there's 187 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: a chance that he might come back into the league, 188 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: which is absolutely crazy. 189 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 3: The same tryout, weren't they Yeah. 190 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 4: They will. 191 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: We'll go through the whole of the AFC South in 192 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: a little bit with Jason, but let's just finish on 193 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: Key what you said to me earlier about how the 194 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: Jags the Indianapolis did not lose this game. 195 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 2: The Jags won this game. 196 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think so. A lot of the reporting 197 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 3: that I saw after the game was about Daniel Jones 198 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 3: going out and the Colts losing the game. That wasn't 199 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 3: the narrative that I saw. The narrative that I saw 200 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 3: was regardless of Daniel Jones being in the game or not, 201 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 3: the Jaguars absolutely dominated the Colts. The Jaguars won that game. 202 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 3: The Colts did not lose it. The Jaguars won because 203 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 3: they were a better team. They played incredibly well. Maybe 204 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 3: there's some sort of benefit to going under the radar 205 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 3: a little bit, and as coach said, maybe there's some 206 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 3: benefits for not being respected and so on and so forth. 207 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 3: But let's be clear. The Jaguars won that game. The 208 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 3: Colts did not lose it, and it had nothing to 209 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 3: do with Daniel Jones going out because they were dominating 210 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 3: before that happened, in my opinion, to do very well anyway, 211 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 3: enough for me absolute pleasure to welcome in Jason Bell 212 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 3: NFL pundit Jason, and to fill you in my take. 213 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 3: So after the game on Sunday, I had enough of 214 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 3: reading media talking about the Colts losing that game. The 215 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 3: Colts didn't win that game. The Colts didn't lose that game. 216 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 3: In my opinion, the Jaguars won that game. They were dominant. 217 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 3: What do you think I think? 218 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 4: I under send your pain. I get it. You're a 219 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 4: real fan, and that's what's important. I love it. 220 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 5: I will say this though, that's how you fuel the 221 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 5: locker room. That's how you go in with the bulletin 222 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 5: board material. We believe it, We put. 223 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 4: It on the board. 224 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 5: Listen, they don't believe you did it. Look at it, 225 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 5: read it. Are you going to prove it next week. Man, 226 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 5: Any motivation you can get you lean into. As a 227 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 5: head coach, sometimes you got to manufacture. 228 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 4: You've got to make somebody the enemy. 229 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 5: But if they already are telling you things you want 230 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 5: to hear or don't want to hear, oh that's a 231 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 5: blessing in disguise. 232 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 4: Just post it on the wall and let it rain. 233 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, how much of a big deal is that? Because 234 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 2: I remember a couple of years. 235 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: Ago or a few years ago, I think the New 236 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: England Patriots had just come off of winning a Super 237 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: Bowl and they they were picturing themselves as underdogs and 238 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: it was like, well, you're. 239 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,839 Speaker 2: Not, like you just won a super Bowl. 240 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: How much of a have you ever been in this 241 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: time when you've been in the dressing room where there's 242 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 1: been some sort of you know, motivating or motive trying 243 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: to you know, as you say, manufactured motivation where you've 244 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: just been like this is have you been able to 245 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: recognize it's manufactured or you're just buying in all the time. 246 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 5: Complacency is a killer. If you're complacent, it will ruin you. 247 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 5: And coaches know that. So is it manufactured? 248 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 4: Maybe? But we understand we're on a razor's edge. 249 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 5: We can feel when we're getting over confident, and if 250 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 5: the head coach feels that and puts us in our place, 251 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 5: we understand. Hey man, people are coming out for us. 252 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,599 Speaker 5: They're trying to they're trying we're at the top of 253 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 5: the mountain. They're trying to bring us down. If you're 254 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 5: in that position, you understand it. So is it false motivation? No. 255 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 5: I think the best head coaches understand the temperature of 256 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 5: their team and they coach them accordingly. We've talked about it. 257 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 5: Sometimes you got to build them up. You gotta tell them, hey, 258 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 5: you're not as bad as they say you are. Look 259 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 5: how close you are. And when you're playing good, you 260 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 5: got to say, look how close we were to losing. 261 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 5: We got to fix this. We gotta make sure this 262 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 5: is all right now. You can't go from bad to great. 263 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 5: You gotta go from bad to good and then good 264 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 5: to great. So you always have to be aware of that. 265 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 3: Jason is I should have told I'm thinking, is coach 266 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 3: coming in the conversation for Coach of the season. 267 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's up there for sure. I mean, this is 268 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 5: a tough year. There's some really good coaches. I mean, 269 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 5: what Mike Rabel's doing over there. You gotta applaud him. 270 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 5: But yeah, the thing I like about Liam calling what 271 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 5: he's done is the identity that he had and that 272 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 5: you hired him for. Is what you see his team 273 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 5: and that that's what it's all about. Trevor Lawrence. Man, 274 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 5: I mean, you see these dudes on the sideline. Now, 275 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 5: they're boys, they're homies. It's like, hey, man, did you 276 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 5: see that? 277 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 4: You see? I saw what you said? You know? 278 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 5: Okay, all right, that's what you brought him here for. 279 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 5: You said, man, somebody can come in. We know we 280 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 5: got a talented quarterback. It's the coaching. Will you see 281 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 5: his identity on the team? People are rallying behind him. Uh, 282 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 5: They're they're tougher, they're more physical. So absolutely, this looks 283 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 5: like the best hire they've had. 284 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 2: I'm interested. 285 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: Because obviously, just because you're a head coach doesn't mean 286 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 1: the all head coaches are the same and doesn't mean 287 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: that the way they handle. 288 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 2: Their players are the same. 289 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: And uh, coach coach seems like quite an open guy. 290 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: Have you had experiences before with completely different head coaches 291 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: and and and the way that they operate with the 292 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: with the personnel, with the players. 293 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 2: Do you see uh do you do? You have you did? 294 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 4: You know? 295 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: It's a difference when you were playing, you know, depending 296 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: on how they were you know, upbringing. 297 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, without a doubt. I mean, you know, humans are different, 298 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 5: they have different personalities. I think what we would see 299 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 5: you had to be authentic. If you weren't yourself consistently 300 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 5: day and day out, how are we going to follow you? 301 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 5: And I think that's the hardest part of the position. 302 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 5: It's who you are, your identity, and we understand and 303 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 5: get used to that and know how to work around that. 304 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 5: But if you're changing as the wind blows, well we 305 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 5: don't respect you. 306 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 4: You know, if you're one. 307 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 5: Way, then the other way, or you treat some people 308 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 5: one way and then change. 309 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 4: Man, we're like this dude, we're not following him. 310 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 5: We we'll go to work, we'll do what we gotta 311 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 5: do to make sure we take care of our business. 312 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 5: But were not following you, not to the Promised Land. 313 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 5: It's not happening. And that's the hardest thing you hear 314 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 5: these coaches say, regardless of where they came from, whatever 315 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 5: treat they're off of, they had to go in be 316 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 5: themselves and let the players in the stand who and 317 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 5: what they were, and that was all they could control. 318 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 2: All right, let's go into the division. 319 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: Then fourth with the record of two and eleven, the 320 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans third dropping to third. I mean this is 321 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: can consider this from a few weeks ago the Indianapolis coach. 322 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: They're eight and five, though obviously not a bad record 323 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: by any means. Second, the Texans eight and five. Also 324 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: they beat the Chiefs top of the AFC South. Ye're 325 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jankuars nine and four. This is a really competitive division. 326 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: J Bell, what stands out for you? 327 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 4: You know, I'll be honest. I just I didn't think 328 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 4: Jacksonville will be here. 329 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 2: Who did? Who did? 330 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 3: That's what stands Let's be honest, Jay Bell. 331 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 2: Who did? 332 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 5: That's what stands out for me, And that it was 333 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 5: this competitive. I mean, we've been talking about these teams 334 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 5: all year. We usually don't do that, not recently, but 335 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 5: you know, when I was playing, obviously Peyton Manning was 336 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 5: in Indianapolis, so it was all you know, here you 337 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 5: go walking in there, you know, can you beat Peyton Manning? 338 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 4: Can you make it happen? 339 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 5: But now you're looking at it, you had three good 340 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 5: quarterbacks playing well, you got a rookie that's gonna be, 341 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 5: that's gonna be. He's all right, man. I mean this 342 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 5: boy in Tennessee could play. They've done well. So you 343 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 5: look at good quarterback play, unexpected team dominance, especially how 344 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 5: fast Indianapolis started, and then you look at the best 345 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 5: defense in the league is in your divisions, in my opinion, 346 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 5: with the Texans. So all those are surprises. But no 347 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 5: matter what, Jacksonville found its way to the. 348 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 2: Top, and let's hope it stays that way. 349 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 4: James will be a battle. 350 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: Let's do the big five questions. 351 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: Jay Bell, where was the game won against the Indianapolis Coats. 352 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 5: I'm gonna start with the basic, boring thing, and I 353 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 5: believe in it. 354 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 4: Man. 355 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 5: That offensive line, the offensive line and the protection. I 356 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 5: got a roll with that Trevor had. This might have 357 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 5: been the best game I've ever seen him play. I 358 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 5: just love the way he looked and all that being 359 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 5: said Devin. 360 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 4: Lloyd, Man, this dude is the man. He is the man. 361 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 5: I said all that because you know, I love I 362 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 5: love the way the receivers are looking. 363 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 4: Everybody has a role. I love this. 364 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 5: You got your deep guy, you got your intermediate guy. 365 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 5: You know you got a physical, big target. I like 366 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 5: all that, But my gosh, Devin Lloyd, they're gonna have 367 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 5: to pay him. They're gonna have to back up the 368 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 5: truck man. They're gonna have to back up the truck 369 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 5: for this dude. 370 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 4: He is balling. 371 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 5: And this is why we talk about coaching and understanding 372 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 5: your personnel. He's playing at a high level because they 373 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 5: understand the skill set and they're putting in a position 374 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 5: to win. 375 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 2: Now, which jack's playing, you're giving the game bow. 376 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 5: I gotta give it to Devin Man. I gotta give 377 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 5: it to him, Bro, he gonna get he's getting. I mean, 378 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 5: I always look for a defensive guy, but when your 379 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 5: middle backer is playing like this, first of all, you're 380 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 5: fast defense if your middle linebacker is fast because between 381 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 5: the numbers, he can clean up a mess. So that 382 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 5: makes everybody else faster. And they're playing fast because of him. 383 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: Talk to me a little bit about the Jack's defense 384 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 1: and how you think that they've been playing, especially over 385 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: the last few weeks. 386 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 5: Well, I like him man Kempanelli, right, I like his structure. 387 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 5: What I love about them is when you're in zone coverage, 388 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 5: when I watch you and I see you match routes, 389 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 5: I see the awareness of something comes in your zone. 390 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 5: You're not just covering grass. It lets me know a 391 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 5: couple of things. You've been coached up well in the 392 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 5: concepts right, you understand what's attacking you, and you have 393 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 5: a great field of a game. The way you look 394 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 5: at the quarterback, the way you read routes, all that 395 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 5: that's coaching. You know, these guys can play, but that's coaching. 396 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 5: So I love that about him. I always watch from 397 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 5: a passing game perspective because that's what they do. And then, 398 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 5: like I said, when you have when you're causing this 399 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 5: many turnovers and you're having people have career years, it 400 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 5: says a lot man And you know new Hire you 401 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 5: didn't know. But they're just they're just their awareness and 402 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 5: they've gotten better as the season progress, which means that 403 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 5: their coaches are really good chopping up tape. 404 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 2: And what was the key moment on the turning point 405 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 2: we may have missed in the coach game. 406 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 5: Well, like I said earlier about the offensive line, you know, 407 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 5: not giving up any sacks man when when you think 408 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 5: about Trevor you want him to play well, And the 409 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 5: key moment is the protection man over and over again. 410 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 5: The key moment is there wasn't key moments. He didn't 411 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 5: get you know what I'm saying. He didn't get blown 412 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 5: up in the pocket. 413 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 4: You know. So for me, when you give up zero sacks, 414 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 4: I gotta give it to the old line. 415 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 2: What needs to improve? 416 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 4: Man? 417 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 5: I say all this, but man, I know the weather 418 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 5: was a little tricky, but we can't drop anymore. 419 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 4: Like let's let's keep I'm gonna keep knocking on the door. Man. 420 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 5: But if we can we can do that, that'll be 421 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 5: I mean, we'll keep climbing if that happens. And make 422 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 5: sure I'm telling you you have you're having success. 423 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 4: It's an emotional game. 424 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 5: Stay focused, no let downs, man, I mean down and 425 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 5: down out. 426 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 4: You gotta stay locked in. 427 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: And how do the Jags beat the Jets this weekend 428 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: and get to ten and full? 429 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 5: First of all, you know, I hate using that word 430 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 5: trap game. I don't believe in it, but man, do 431 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 5: not go, do not sleep, Do not sleep. And what 432 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 5: I think if you can win in the trenches, right 433 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 5: if that d line Josh Allen Hines taken over the 434 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 5: offensive line, if they can dominate, you can win, man 435 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 5: traves YTM man I'm loving the way he's playing and 436 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 5: carrying the rock man, control the trenches. 437 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 4: You can make it happen. 438 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: Ten and full j bell sounds nice, don't it sounds nice? 439 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 1: I mean I've got ahead of myself, but it sounds nice. 440 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 4: Guarantee a winning record. 441 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, this was an interesting year, the 442 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 5: way they built this whole program, Tony Boselli in his role, 443 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 5: and how they kind of looked at this program as 444 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 5: a whole. Right, it's working, you know, it's it's the 445 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 5: way they set this thing up. Man, this is a 446 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 5: physical team. They have an identity. They're starting to believe 447 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 5: in themselves, or they do believe in themselves. I mean, 448 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 5: the future is looking bright for the Jacksonville Jaguars both 449 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 5: show and look. 450 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: I know that I'm getting ahead of myself. I know 451 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: that I'm getting ahead of myself. But Jack's third seed 452 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: right now. Now, obviously that might change, but let's just 453 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: pretend it's not. That means that they would play as 454 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: it stands. The I'm just double checking to make sure 455 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 1: I get this right. The Buffalo bills. 456 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 2: In Buffalo, no in Jacksonville that I want to just 457 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 2: let's just quickly. 458 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm getting head myself ahead of 459 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: myself a little bit. But it looks if they stayed 460 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: the same third or fourth seed, let's say, then it'd 461 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: be charges. It would be one of these three likely 462 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: charges bills or Texans opinions. 463 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 2: I know I'm getting ahead of myself. I know I'm 464 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:05,479 Speaker 2: getting ahead of myself. 465 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 4: You're asking me who I want to play over? 466 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: I'm asking, I'm asking. I guess I'm just asking you, 467 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: like you know, this is i'd rather play. It's quite 468 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: I think it's quite difficult. I mean, it's always gonna 469 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: difficult in the planets, but sometimes you get that that 470 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: first round game in the world cold round that you think, okay, 471 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: but these three, those those three they're know easy, are they? 472 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 5: So it's hard to win a game in the playoffs. 473 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 5: But anybody can beat anybody on any given day. 474 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 4: That is for sure. That can happen. But to continue 475 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 4: to do. 476 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 5: That, you got to get better, better and better, and 477 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 5: whatever your flaws are, flaws are will come out. All 478 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 5: those games are tough and difficult, but you never if 479 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 5: you can get off you can turn the ball over 480 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 5: and you can run the ball and be physical on offense, 481 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 5: you can beat anybody. 482 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 4: You really can. 483 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 5: It's a possession game, but you are getting ahead of yourself, 484 00:22:59,240 --> 00:22:59,719 Speaker 5: ahead of us. 485 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 4: Say, I spent ten minutes talking. 486 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 2: About I'm trying to plumber Jenery. 487 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 3: Fair enough, that's fair Jason, to go back on one 488 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 3: thing that you said about Tony Bisselli and then on 489 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 3: getting better and better at the start of the season. 490 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 3: That's what James Gladston and Tony Biselli said. They said 491 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 3: that their only goal, a successful season to them, looks 492 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 3: like getting better and better each week. And when you 493 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 3: look at week one compared to week fourteen, I would argue, Mom, 494 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 3: they've done that. 495 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 5: Yes, And let's be honest, everybody's gonna look at the quarterback. 496 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 4: M that. I mean, all the other stuff is cool. 497 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 5: I mean, we dive into this all day, but what 498 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 5: does your average fan who's there buying a jersey having 499 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 5: a good time. 500 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 4: How is our quarterback playing? And that's what you've seen. 501 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 5: You've seen the growth in the quarterback being familiar with 502 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 5: the system, with the play caller, understanding that his coach 503 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 5: and his play caller has faith in him. You can 504 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 5: see that he's like, dude, let it rip, bro throw it, 505 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 5: Like don't sit here, and worry about what I'm gonna say. 506 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 5: Don't you worry, you feel it, you do it, because 507 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 5: I don't know, I wasn't in the locker room, but 508 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 5: maybe the past Rezine was different. 509 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 4: This right here, it's all good. 510 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 5: Go for it and you see that confidence he has 511 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 5: and that's what matters. 512 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 3: And talking about seedings and playoffs and all of this. 513 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 3: It is December the best month to be an NFL 514 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 3: fun it's my favorite. 515 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 4: It's stressful. Yeah, right, you know what it is. It's 516 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 4: the hope. 517 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 5: Man, It's the when if your team has no hope, 518 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 5: you just mad, You're thinking about draft and all this 519 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 5: kind of stuff. 520 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 4: But it's the hope. But you gotta love it. 521 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 5: Man. These matchups later on in the season, these games 522 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 5: we're gonna see all the way to the end. I mean, 523 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 5: the NFL knows what they're doing, let's be honest when 524 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 5: they build these schedules. But my goodness, it is not disappointing. 525 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 5: It's gonna be a fantastic stress to the Yeah. 526 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: I mean, I often call July and August hope season 527 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: because every single team, every single supporter can be a 528 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: you know, can can hope no matter who you support, 529 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: and The truth of it is that by December so 530 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 1: many of these teams, that hope is gone and you're 531 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: looking forward to the next year or the draft or whatever, or. 532 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 2: You have them. 533 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: I want to but that's what I wanted to say, 534 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: is that actually maybe I should change that and say, no, 535 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 1: actually December is hope season because because not because you 536 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: have less teams that can possibly be hopeful, but that hope, 537 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: That hope is sky high. That hope is sky high, 538 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: and I've fallen victim to it. 539 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 2: Can you tell? Can you tell? Let's move on to 540 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 2: the predictions. 541 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 4: In the tournament. 542 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. 543 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, and then suddenly your stomach feels 544 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: like it's full of butterflies. 545 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 3: This year feels very different to December last year's. 546 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 4: Way stressed out. 547 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 1: Okay, predictions, the Mini Trevor Lawrence Figurine up for grabs. 548 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 2: Jason and the Jags won thirty six nine. We all 549 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 2: went for a win, a close game. We all said 550 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 2: so a point each. 551 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: No bonus points this time around, which I'm pleased about. 552 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that Key got some bonus points over 553 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, which I'm feeling a bit 554 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: funny about So. 555 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 2: Jason's on twelve, I'm on ten. Key is on nine. 556 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: Thankfully he's still bottom of the lot this week the Jets, 557 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: Key go on, you took a couple of weeks off, 558 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: so go on, you go first. 559 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 2: You got you took it, you can go first. 560 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 3: Absolute blowout twenty eight to three, Pooh twenty eight three. 561 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: Can I just say, by the way, that if you're 562 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: listening to the podcast right now, j Bell's face just 563 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 1: just felt like he just just looked like he smelt 564 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: something funky after you said that, as if. 565 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 2: As if you're like, that was I don't agree with that. 566 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 4: Jabo, Yeah, that was that was. I mean, you know, 567 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 4: you're standing on something. If you don't stand for something, 568 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 4: you fall off everything. 569 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 2: You're out with a line today, j is a good line. 570 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 4: I get you. You're standing own business on that one. 571 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 2: Go into a prediction, Jabo. 572 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 4: Twenty four to ten. 573 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 2: That's not that different. I think it's difference. 574 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, you ain't giving them a touchdown. 575 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 3: No, we'll say, we'll say we'll see next Sunday. 576 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, I don't think it's going to 577 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 5: be a huge scoring game, Like they're not going to 578 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 5: score a bunch of points. Man, you know, I see 579 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 5: Jacksonville maybe getting in the thirties. Maybe you know, but 580 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 5: you know it's gonna be tight game. They think about it. 581 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 5: You played it, win the game. If they can't score, 582 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 5: don't give them the ball back, take up the clock, 583 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 5: chew it up, get in the end zone, play keep away. 584 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 4: Make it hard on him. 585 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 2: And I think this is. 586 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: Going to be about turnovers, and I think that this 587 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: is going to be a positive game for the Jags 588 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: in that respect against the Jets, I would not be 589 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: surprised to see other special teams turnover. Would not be 590 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: surprised to see a really good field position for Trevor 591 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: Lawrence and Code because of a defensive turnover. I do, 592 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: let's breach the thirties. Let's breach the thirties. Let's go 593 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: with a nice cool thirty one fourteen? 594 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 2: Why not? 595 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 3: Do you know what Jay? I think? Either way, the 596 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 3: Greenwood Pub in Victoria is going to get very loud 597 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 3: on Sunday, and I'm looking forward to it. 598 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 5: I'm feeling Gwynn hates the Jacksonville Jaguars. Remember he's a 599 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 5: Houston Texans, so it's going to be He's letting them know. 600 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 2: But who's playing quarterback for the Jets? Jay Bell? 601 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: I mean, like, you know, I just feel like if 602 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: you go through two quarterbacks and they're just sort of 603 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: resorting to justin Fields because it doesn't seem like they 604 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: want to play him. 605 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 2: I feel like the Jags have a good a good 606 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 2: chance game. 607 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 5: So yeah, they're gonna hunt. For sure, They're gonna hunt. 608 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 5: Leadership has to step up. 609 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,719 Speaker 4: Man. We do not play down to our opponent. We 610 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 4: go dominate. 611 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 612 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 5: That's what I want you all to do this week. 613 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 5: Don't play down to your opponent and whatever you do 614 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 5: in life, dominate and then we'll talk next week. 615 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 4: If you don't, I'm gonna find out. 616 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna find out. 617 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: Just to clarify, it's it's in Jacksonville. It's in Jacksonville. 618 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: This even better, even better, even better. J Bell will 619 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: see you on the other side of a w being 620 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: way too confident, way too confident. 621 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go and dominate. 622 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: You Gotta tell you what, You're not gonna speak to 623 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: J Bell for a while and then you're just gonna 624 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: get a text in a couple in a few years time. 625 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 2: Just been like, hey, Key, I've been been checking up 626 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 2: on you. 627 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 4: Don't. 628 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 3: I don't see that you'll dominate the dominance dominance. 629 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 5: Hey man, we haven't set the rules. We're just saying dominate. 630 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 5: I know what it looks like. 631 00:29:59,040 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 2: That was good. 632 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 3: I like, you. 633 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: Know what key new coach for the Jags, new general manager. 634 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: They probably have something to do with the fact that 635 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: the Jags have had a decent season so far. 636 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 3: But do you know what the biggest factor. 637 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 2: It's not the biggest factor. 638 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: I think the biggest factor is that, well, what's the 639 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: big difference between this year and last year? 640 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 2: I think we can all say it in Unison. It's 641 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 2: the j Bell factor. 642 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 3: Bell the factor, isn't it getting involved into your talk 643 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 3: Jay Bell's positive team talks, his monologues, and. 644 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: Suddenly the Jags seem to be doing all right? Is 645 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: it because of j Bell? 646 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 2: I think it might be. I think it might be. 647 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 2: I don't. 648 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 3: I don't, I don't think, you know, I don't think. Yeah, 649 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 3: I know, Jabel has turned this team around from the 650 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 3: from the ground up. 651 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 2: Well down to j Bell. Well, do you know what 652 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 2: I like to think? 653 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: As well as because obviously, as you just mentioned there, 654 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: he's got he's got the older the team talks and 655 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: stuff that he does on the podcast. I do like 656 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: to think that prior to you know, like you see 657 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: all the players with the headphones on, they' getting hyped up, 658 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: they listen to music or whatever. I like to think 659 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: that there's there's one player that's like people someone can 660 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: go up to and be like, hey, what you listen 661 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: to J Bell's team talk on deal Talk. You know, 662 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: just like to think I like to think that that's 663 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: the case tal Talk Team Talk. How have we never 664 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: thought of something to do with that? I feel like 665 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: that's a missle feature idea, like right there. Anyway, choose 666 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: to j Bell Jets on Sunday key six pm with 667 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: us at the Greenwood. I'm very excited about this. I'm 668 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: excited about this game as well. I'm hopeful that we're 669 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: going to see Jags win. I'm feeling I'm feeling positive. 670 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: I'm feeling positive. 671 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 3: Do you know what? December is a lot of fun 672 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 3: when your team is performing the way the Jacksonville Jaguars 673 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 3: are performing, and I am going to make the absolute 674 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 3: most of it. Bigger the last four weeks where the 675 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 3: Jaguars is it's four wins in a row, I'm fairly sure, right, Yeah, 676 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 3: I think it's four weeks in a row. The Jaguars 677 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 3: are one. It is a lot of fun. I'm having 678 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 3: a thoroughly great time. Thank you for asking. 679 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 2: It's almost as if winning is fun. 680 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 3: It's yes, it's certainly better than the alternative. 681 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: I just want to be clear as well, because obviously 682 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: there was the game at Wembley Stadium against the Rams 683 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: that the Jags lost. Since then, it's been five wins 684 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: out of six, and that that one loss was that 685 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: last second loss to the Texans. Yeah, so which should 686 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: have been a victory obviously. So five wins out of six, 687 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: that is some good going and hopefully thank you week, yeah, 688 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: cheers by week. Hopefully it will be another victory on Sunday. 689 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: This has been a Shooting Shark production for Jacksonvill Jaguars 690 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: UK and Ireland in partnership with Gallagher. 691 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 2: Till talk back next week 692 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 3: BPPP