1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff you should know 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: from House Stuff Works dot Com. Hey, and welcome to 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. Here is Charles w dr 5 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: kunk Eliasis Bryant How you doing drunk? That sounds like 6 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: my play a name? It is sort of player appreciate 7 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: dot Com. I wish I could remember what that name was. 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: Was so good? Oh it was we pastic Bryant Trump. 9 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: Is that it sugar tastic Bryant Trump. Sugar tastic? That's it, 10 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: Bryant Trump. Yeah, that means Chuck's put name is as 11 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: it's as its appears on player appreciate dot Com. I 12 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 1: love that you can generate a play a name. Yeah, 13 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: it is a pretty cool couples the Internet, Chuck, speaking 14 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: of the Internet. Yes, our parent company, Discoveries Channel Animal 15 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: Planet UM has a cool website. Indeed that they launched 16 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: for their show Monsters Inside of Me. Very cool, which 17 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: has inspired us to do a couple of parasite podcasts. 18 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: This is two of two. Yeah, number two. We just 19 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: did um a toxoplasmosis. Yeah, and I gotta say we 20 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: were excited about this stuff. It's actually we'll get requested 21 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: to do things and we're like, oh, I don't know, 22 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: should we do that. We'll turn them down and they'll 23 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: threaten to fire us, and then we'll march into the 24 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: office with a gas can and a lighter. It goes 25 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: down like that. But this one is cool. Monsters inside Me, 26 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: cool show. Yeah No, everybody on staff pretty much threw 27 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: in for this thing, and happily actually because yeah, it 28 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: is a cool show. That's a cool graphics. It's just gross. Yeah, 29 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: it is um. And if you're eating lunch or dinner 30 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: right now, we might advise you to wait until later 31 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: listen to this. I actually was eating a sub while 32 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: I was researching Leashman is sis tape worm sub? No, 33 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: that's the flesh eating I know, just was it a 34 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: taper and stub? It was undercooked meat, so yeah, probably. Um. Anyway, 35 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: we're talking about parasites and apparently pimp names and uh, 36 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: let's get into it. We're talking about three really gross ones, 37 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 1: and technically we should say four because I want to 38 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: give a shout out to my favorite and Chuck. Also, 39 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: I should probably say anytime we do a segmented um podcast. 40 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: Chuck likes the timing because he's a big fat jerk. 41 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: I don't like to time you. But if we want 42 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: to get to all three, we need only have a 43 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: certain amount of time. And so I'm gonna go ahead 44 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 1: and hit start on my new iPhone. Okay, well, dracunculish jerk, 45 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: We're supposed to do a Leisha manisis. Oh yeah, Alisha maniasis. Sorry, man, 46 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: that's what we're starting with. This is the flesh eating parasite. 47 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: It is. It's affection affectionately known tropics subtropics in southern Europe. 48 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: So we're safe for now, well, unless we travel to 49 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: one of these countries, which you were prone to do. 50 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: I yes, I am wanting to go to certain places sometimes. 51 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: But yeah, there's a lot of people who actually um 52 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: suffer from Alisha maniasis. Estimates are are about twelve million 53 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: infective worldwide and three fifty million at risk. Yeah, and 54 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: about two million new cases each year. And they're expecting 55 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: this to go up, Chuck, thanks to our friend climate change, 56 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: Thank you, al Gore. Um. Because as the temperatures increase, 57 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: the area where the sand fly, which uh increases as well. 58 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's the sand flight which I wasn't familiar. 59 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: I think I had sand fly and black fly confused. 60 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: But luckily black flies don't spread um. Leashmanis the sand 61 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: flies to and these are actually about a third of 62 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: the size of mosquitoes. You know, your bits are relatively 63 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: painless if they're if they're not pain free. Um. So yeah, 64 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: you don't know that you're being bitten, and you certainly 65 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: don't know that the the saliva from this fly has 66 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: actually just transferred um some larva of this parasite into 67 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: your blood stream. And you know I should point out 68 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: to you said that global warming is one reason this 69 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: is on the rise. Another reason is because of our 70 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: shenanigans in the Middle East, because it is that place 71 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: is lousy with sand flies in Afghanistan and Iraq and 72 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: the like. So we think a lot of our personnel 73 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: over there maybe getting infected in bringing it back. So 74 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: leishmaniasis mission accomplished. Yeah, so, Chuck. Actually, the the concentration 75 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: of where these cases are popping up is concentrated in 76 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: just a handful of countries, Old World and New World. Um. 77 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: But there are places like Syria and Brazil have the 78 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: vast majority of these cases because it's where the sand 79 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: fly lives. But like you said, traveling conquering, these things 80 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: can can can transfer tourism and conquering. Yeah, leishmaniasis. Right, 81 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: So there's actually two kinds and a sub kind. The 82 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: sub kind is my favorite. The cutaneus is my favorite? 83 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: Is it because I want to describe the sore If 84 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: you had the cutaneus, uh, lee, maniasis, this is what's 85 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: gonna happen. You're getting get a sore in your skin. 86 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: What happens is as followed and uh, this is so gross. 87 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: They describe it. The sore is ending up looking like 88 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: a volcano. So it's got a raised edge and then 89 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: a central crater, a little meaty central crater right in 90 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: the middle. Do you at least maniasis on your breast? 91 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: That's gross? And some some of the sores are indeed 92 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: covered by a scab and they can be painless or painful. 93 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: Painful your breast is yeah. Yeah, So my favorite, chuck, 94 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: if you'll allow me to take over for a moment, 95 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: is mucosal or muco cut This is the stuff that 96 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: like you see photos of when you type in flesh 97 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: eating parasite, right, Yeah. What happens is is you get 98 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: a cutaneous parasitic infection, and uh, it can spread to 99 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: your mucous membranes, eat your lips, your nostrils, that kind 100 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: of thing. Basically, the prominent features on your face get 101 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: eaten away. Did you google image any of these? Yeah? Yeah, 102 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: so are you eating at the time? No, I was not. 103 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: It's amazing like people missing their noses. I saw one 104 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: where it was a close up of this guy's nose 105 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: and somebody had tweezers. It was just kind of pulling 106 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: it and it was a still photo, but you could 107 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: tell by the way it was being pulled. It was 108 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: basically like jelly. It's gross stuff, but that's that They 109 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: actually clear up on their own eventually. We read an 110 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: article from the CDC describing leashmaniasis, and I was just 111 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: considered to find you know, under the how do I 112 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: treat leishmaniasis, they're basically like, well, it goes away on 113 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: its own eventually, basically like there is no treatment, but 114 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: it said it could take months or years. So do 115 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: you want a volcano, uh, scab on your forearm for 116 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: years or that thing on your breath gross? Uh. There's 117 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: a really dangerous one though, called visceral. Yeah, so tell 118 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: us about that, chuckers. Yes, Josh, this is the nasty one. 119 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: This is the one that attacks your liver and spleen 120 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: and I think it in large just them. Well, your 121 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: spleen actually can become larger than your liver, which ain't 122 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: supposed to happen. That ain't supposed to happen, and even 123 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: your liver and uh it is liver shrinking and hardening. 124 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: Oh is that what happens? Okay, so your liver's like 125 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: a California raising pretty much. And then not the dancing 126 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: kind of the dying kind. Yeah. Um yeah, it'll kill you. 127 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: It will. And like you said, it is nasty in 128 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: that it is dangerous. It's not as nasty as um 129 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: muco cutaneous leashmaniasis, but it's still pretty dangerous stuff. So 130 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: you want to know how how this uh, this parasite, Uh, 131 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: this parasite's life cycle occurs. It's pretty interesting actually. So 132 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: you get bit by a sand fly, right, and the 133 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: parasite actually is taken up. It enters the bloodstream and 134 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: it's taken up by macro phages, which are a type 135 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: of white blood cell. So they're living happily and protective 136 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: within the macrophages where they're reproducing, and eventually they cause 137 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: the cell to lice. Dat erupts and they're all of 138 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: a sudden, all these new um parasites are released into 139 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: your bloodstream and then they're taken up by more white 140 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: blood cells and so on and so on, so the 141 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: process keeps continuing and they start multiplying exponentially. Yeah, which 142 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: is also how it's flesh eating. When when it's attacking 143 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: these cells, it's it's liz ing the cells in your 144 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: mucous membrane or around your like on your forearm or 145 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: something like that or uh, in the case of visceral leashmaniasis, 146 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: your internal organs. But like we said, don't worry about 147 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: It'll just go ahead and according to the c d C. 148 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 1: All right, change your press the timer. Man, we're dumb 149 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: in this one. Okay, So that's leashmaniasis. Yes to number two, 150 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: dracunculiass that's a good one. Yeah, this one's pretty awful too. 151 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: It's all this is really sad. As the guinea worm. Yeah, 152 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: this is really sad because it affects the poorest of 153 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: the poor in the world. That's the bad news, because 154 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: it comes from drinking un clean water. The good news 155 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: is they have largely eradicated it. Well, the five countries 156 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: that are stubbornly hanging on your guinea worm infection. But dude, 157 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: we're talking. Um, let's go back in time to nineteen six. 158 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: I'm in the tenth grade. You're an elementary school. If 159 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: you're drinking behind the elementary I was in the baseball cards. 160 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: I was into drinking behind the element I was into 161 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: Defender in van Halen Um. So three point five million 162 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: people were infected every year back then. And now let's 163 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: go back a couple of years to two thousand seven 164 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: when I was into Defender and Van Halen and I 165 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: was drinking behind the elementary school. Yeah, that's scary. Only 166 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: nine thousand five cases were reported, so that's awesome, and 167 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: most of those were in the Sudan and Ghana, so 168 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: clearly some work to be done there. Sure, So now 169 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: we should talk about how the gross this is. This 170 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: is a very very gross gross. Paris is the worst one. 171 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: I think what happens is U it's generally taken up 172 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: through at tainted water supply a year later. Yeah, that's 173 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: what was so frightening is you drink bad water on 174 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: vacation and Ghana. A year later, all of a sudden, 175 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 1: you say, what's that blister on my foot? Well, the 176 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: tour Ghana Tourism board is gonna be really mad at you. 177 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: The Greater Ghanese um Chamber of Commerce is going to 178 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: be after you chuck to go ahead, all right? So basically, 179 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: what is it? Water fleas are easily infected with these parasites, 180 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: and they show up in unsanitary water. You drink this water, 181 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: you get a couple of water fleas in, or you 182 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: can considerably just drink the larva. Right. Uh, the larva 183 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: travel down to your intestine where they lodge. They can 184 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: pass through the intestine, which most parasites can um and 185 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: then they grow right. Well, the stomach acid what I 186 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: thought was interesting is it does not kill. It killed 187 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: the water, Thank you stomach acid. Right, So, yeah, the 188 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: parasite sticks around. It grows and grows and grows um too, 189 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: about two to three ft long or a hundred centimeters 190 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: long um over the course of ten to fourteen months. 191 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: And it's just the females that grow to this adult stage. 192 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: And they said it's as wide as a cooked spaghetti 193 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: noodle three ft long in your intestine. Yeah, and it's gross. 194 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: That's not the worst part though. Our guest producer Lizzie 195 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: is about the girl. I think we should make that 196 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: our our mission today. Okay, So, um, you've got this 197 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: three ft long live spaghetti noodle that you can clearly 198 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: identify as a female, uh, detached from your intestine, and 199 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: then it migrates to the skin. And here's where the 200 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: beauty parts oil forms on the site where the worms 201 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 1: about to emerge, and pop goes the weasel. The worms 202 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: starts to poke its head out and uh. Basically you 203 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: look down and you have a worm coming out of 204 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: your body. And here's the tricky part, what getting it out? Okay, 205 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: so if you have them picked up by now, parasites 206 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: are arguably the most intelligent things on the planet, or 207 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: at the very least the most tenacious. The boil or 208 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: the blister where that's that occurs at the site where 209 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: the worms about to emerge. Actually, the pain associated with 210 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: it is alleviated simply by dropping it in water. Yeah, 211 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: this is a contact with water triggers the guinea worm 212 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: to release this milky white substance, which is actually millions 213 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: of larva into the water supply. So the water supply 214 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: is now tainted and the life cycle begins again. Right, 215 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: So you're in the you're in Ghana, you're feeling bad, 216 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: You get in the river because it makes it feel better, 217 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, everyone downstream is getting 218 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: this milky secretion of eggs. They get infected. Just so 219 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: g it is so okay again, c DC says, yeah, really, 220 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: the best way to do this is to have a 221 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: clean sanitary water supply. So the treatment for this is 222 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: actually just preventive. You just make sure that population has 223 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: a clean water supply, right, which is what the Carter 224 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: Center has been working so hard for all these years. 225 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 1: That's odd to mention the Carter Center out of nowhere. Well, no, 226 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 1: the Carter Center they've been doing all this work. Oh 227 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: they have. Yeah, since when trying to eradicate g W 228 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: d Oh did they help with that drop from three 229 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: point five million to less than ten thousand cases in 230 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: about ten years? You got it, buddy, right, Well, way 231 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: to go, Jimmy Carter. Okay, so the Carter Center is 232 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: working on eradicating the guinea worm. Sure, among other groups, 233 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: got you World Health Organization? Uh? Yeah, right, okay, so yes, 234 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: so we've got we've got it down. But let's say 235 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: that you do have a polluted water source and all 236 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: of a sudden you have a three foot long cook 237 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: spaghetti noodle coming out of your leg in a boil. 238 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: What do you do, Chuck, what do you do? Well? 239 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: One thing you can do, Josh, is you can pull 240 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: it out, and you can only do this a few 241 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: centimeters at a time on a daily basis. I'm glad 242 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 1: I read this because if I ever had this, I 243 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: would yank that thing and pull it out from my 244 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: intestine in one long piece of spaghetti wolf. But apparently 245 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: you can't do that. I imagine it would break off 246 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: or something and causing infection, and you just make it mad. 247 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: And you don't want to make a guinea worm. No, 248 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: you're tough. So what you do is you wrap it 249 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: around a piece of gauze or a small stick, a 250 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: little bit at a time, every day, every day, for 251 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: several weeks, for several weeks, until it's out. That's one 252 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: thing you can do. Or it can be surgically removed, 253 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: clearly by a trained professional. But we're talking about the 254 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: poorest of the poor in the world, and they can't 255 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: they don't have access to this, or you can just 256 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: blow your head off. Well that's another option. Sure. Um. 257 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: The big problem with guinea worm disease, or when it 258 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: was a real real problem, is that, um, it is 259 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: a it's a disease of poverty, but it's also a 260 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: cause of poverty because if you have a three foot 261 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: log cooks spaghetti noodle coming out of your leg um, 262 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: you're pretty much temporarily disabled until that thing comes out. 263 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: You can't farm, No, you can't take care of your children. Right, 264 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: it's very sad. So it does have an economic impact. 265 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: That just it's a cycleman, it makes everything even worse. 266 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: It's does. But luckily again we've largely eradicated it except 267 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: for Ghana and Molly is completely clear of it now 268 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: and they used to have a problem with it all right, Chuck, Well, 269 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: then turn off your time or again, buddy, that was 270 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: a good one, I thought, so as well, are we 271 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: leaving this part in where you're actually manipulating the timer? Yes, 272 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: we'll find out onto tape worms, tapeworms. This one is 273 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: pretty common, the big finish. Everybody knows tapeworms. There's that 274 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: tapeworm diet which actually is real, is it really? We're 275 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: not endorsing that. By the way, I'm just big on 276 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: calorie restricted diets and knowledge. Even Chuck won't let me 277 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: endorse that one. But still, uh, this is We chose 278 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: this one because it's actually really interesting. Um. The study 279 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: of tapeworms has revealed a change and understanding of human evolution. 280 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: Big deal, or at least pitology. Yeah, we always thought 281 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: humans always thought that we get tapeworms from animals. Thanks 282 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: a lot, cow and pig for getting us tapeworms. There's 283 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: some research that's been done that actually turns the tables, Josh, 284 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: and in a switcheroo. It looks like we may have 285 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: started the whole thing and given it to the animals. 286 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: So not only did we domesticate you for slaughter, we 287 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: also gave you the tapeworm. So tapeworms uh known affectionately 288 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: in the medical community as tania. Uh. There's uh tanias solium, 289 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: which we'll talk about that's distinct from Tania sagenada and 290 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: Tania asiatica. Thank you. I worked on pronunciations like all 291 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: day uh sagonada and asiatica both actually for their lifestyle 292 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: life cycle require an herbivore in there as an intermediate 293 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: host to get to their definitive host us, the carnivores carnivores. Right, 294 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: does this mean a vegetarian or vegan wouldn't be infected? 295 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: You would think so, but look out for tanias solium, 296 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: which will get anybody. Yeah, very broad range and including dogs. 297 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: It said. That's very sad, right, Yeah, once we domesticated dogs, cows, pigs, 298 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: you know again, we thought that that's when we started 299 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: getting tapeworms. Actually, tapeworms go back as far as about 300 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 1: two point seven million years. Humans or hominids have had 301 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: some sort of trouble um with all of the wretching 302 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: and the pooping and stuff like that, if you believe 303 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. Yeah, we've been around for two 304 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: point seven million years? Do you believe that? Hogwatch? Sorry, so, 305 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: chuck um. Let's talk about tapeworms. What they do, how 306 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: they do it, what they look like. All right, we're 307 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: talking about intestinal tapeworm infections. A lot of times, uh, 308 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: they're not detected because it's pretty mild symptom. Wize, I 309 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: assume that one or both of us has a tapeworm 310 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: right now? Can I tell you something? Boy? Yes, So 311 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: I'm actually a big proponent of high colonics. Yeah, oh yeah, 312 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: I learned so much. They are mood changing, really and 313 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: you have to get to And also anyone who goes 314 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: out and gets a high klonic make sure the place 315 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: you go is ultra sanitized and insist on watching them 316 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 1: sanitize the machine, especially in our producers. Jerry's House of Klonics. 317 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: I mean, she's tidy, but I wouldn't accept the high 318 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: klonic from her. Right, Um, I was. I got high 319 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 1: klonic two of them. The second one it was like 320 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: I was a brand new person. I literally felt reborn. 321 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: But the guy who was running the place was telling 322 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: me about a customer. They it's so perverse. They have 323 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: this table set up and it's like a doctor's exam 324 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: table um, and you have certain things sticking certain places, um, 325 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: and then a tube. Dr Frankenstein going sure, you have 326 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 1: a tube going out right, And then there's mirrors showing 327 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: the whole thing, so you're seeing all the stuff. One 328 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: guy had to call the owner in who was telling 329 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: me the story, and he had stopped up the tube 330 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: and they went and removed the tube on it out. 331 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: You know what it was. It was a fist size 332 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: ball of worms. You're kidding. The guy had had no symptoms, 333 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 1: had no clue they were in there. Uh, and all 334 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: of a sudden, the fist sized ball of worms coming out. Well, 335 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: it's pretty clear why the Discovery show is called Monsters 336 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: Inside Me. Yeah, fistful of monsters inside of you. Yeah, 337 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: so high colonics equal getting rid of worms. Sometimes that's 338 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: my that's my little ast side there, Chuck. I'm going 339 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: to Jerry's House of clonics right after this. You should, so, Chuck, 340 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: how do we get these tape worms that come out 341 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: and fist size balls? Well, there's different ways, Josh. Um. 342 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: It's usually you can get it through eating food. But 343 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: there's uh, there's a little disturbing asset to all this 344 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: is fecal matter has to be involved. Yeah. I saw 345 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: in this article that you could get it through intimate contact. 346 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: But if fecal matter has to be present, what is that? 347 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, And you out there in podcasts, I 348 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 1: can't make your own call there. But if let's say 349 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: you were preparing some food and um, you have poop 350 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: on your hands and poop or something involved involved, yeah, 351 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: then then you can get it. And I know, undercooked 352 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 1: pork I think is one way that you can get 353 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: the Uh the which one was it? The solum? No? 354 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: Is it? I thought? So? No? Yeah, Solium is the 355 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: only one that doesn't require a herbivore. It's the others. 356 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: Solium is often found in raw or undercook pork, and 357 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: it's therefore called the pork tape worm. Well that's pretty definitive. 358 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: It sounds like it. Yeah, at least that's what Dr 359 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: Hoburg says. It's so. One of the things I found 360 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: disturbing was this. So you know how tapeworms are segmented. 361 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: First of all, they can grow up to sixty twenty 362 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: meters long. That's disturbing, And they're heavily segmented. Each segment 363 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: can contain up to forty thousand eggs larva eggs um. 364 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: These eggs can actually live twenty five years out in 365 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: the open. So if you poop somewhere like in the 366 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: desert at age, if you go back and visit your 367 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,719 Speaker 1: poop in the desert age fifty, if there were taper 368 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: makes in there, you could consuerably eat them and start 369 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: it over again. That's crazy, isn't that gross? That is 370 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: and if you swallow these eggs, josh, uh, the larvae 371 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 1: can actually penetrate your intestinal wall and lodge in an 372 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: organ or form a cyst. Well, yeah, they can form 373 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: brain cysts. They can also attach They can attach to 374 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: any organ, including your eye and brain, which can cause. 375 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: They've said they've linked it to blindness and epilepsy and 376 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: insanity and um seizures. Yeah, what else is there? Um? Paralysis, UM, 377 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: A lack of equilibrium, Yeah, like vertigo, dizziness, that kind 378 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: of thing. It's bad stuff, it is, So stay away 379 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: from dirty pigs and don't cook if you have poop 380 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: on your hands, just get somebody else to cook an 381 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: maybe go out to eat. Yeah, that's a good call. 382 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: Does that it on tape worms? Yeah? We already covered 383 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: the part about how it turns out we infected livestock, right, 384 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: sorry pigs. So that's three uh three gross parasite Again. 385 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: I want to say I want to give a shout 386 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: out to my favorite which we didn't cover because there's 387 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: actually a dearth of information out there on it. It's 388 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: called the human bot fly, bot fly, the fly. Did 389 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: you read my blog post on it? Did you watched 390 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: the video? And that's awesome? So the bot fly actually 391 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: doesn't sting or lay its eggs or spread its larva 392 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: directly into humans. It uses um mosquitoes to do it 393 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: for him. So these flies actually capture mosquito midflight, lay 394 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: some eggs on it, and then the mosquito flies around 395 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: with the eggs until they hatch into larva. Once the 396 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: larva hatch, the mosquito um plunges its proposes into a 397 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: human or any any mammal I believe in to me 398 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: there in the so the larva are actually transferred. They 399 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: go under the under the skin, so there and eat 400 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: your fatty tissue for several weeks, and then finally a 401 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: maggot emerges from your skin and falls off and goes 402 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: into the soil where it burrows and until the pupa. 403 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: Then that's the pupa stage, and then it emerges as 404 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: an adult bot fly. That's the wrath of con Yeah, 405 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: and there is no treatment for it. Also, people who 406 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: have these things, they they as they grow they stay 407 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: close to the surface. So if you there, it breathes 408 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: through your skin, right through a hole in your skin 409 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: um and if you cover it up, you can feel 410 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: the maggot moving underneath your skin. People have reported was 411 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 1: just not in the top three because there's not that 412 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: much information on it, but we're still talking about it anyway, Bunny. Um. 413 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: And then the the only way to get rid of 414 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: it is to actually pop it out. So if you 415 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 1: go to the blogs at how stuff works dot com 416 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 1: you can, uh, I think you go through older posts 417 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: and you find one on the bot Flight's probably a 418 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: couple of weeks old by the time this this podcast 419 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: comes out. And if you're into parasites or that kind 420 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: of thing, well, definitely that's one thing. But while you're 421 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: getting help, while you're filling out the requisite insurance forms, 422 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 1: you should probably check out um Monsters Inside Me on 423 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: Animal Planet on Wednesdays at nine and Chuck and I 424 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: don't talk just anything like this is a cool show. Yeah, 425 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: cool and gross and just you know, if you're into 426 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: that kind of thing, and I know you are, and 427 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: again that it's like you're abusing our listeners. Um. That 428 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: website for Monsters Inside Me has one of the great 429 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: writers on staff here at how stuffworks dot com, Robert 430 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: Lamb to work by him, Robert's one of my favorite. 431 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: Rocked it out. So yeah, so there you go, three 432 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: gross parasites plus the bot fly, and that means it's 433 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 1: time for listener mail. So, Josh, I'm just gonna call 434 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 1: this listener mail from two dudes someone took you to 435 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: ask on Superman, did you read those we only get 436 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: too well. We had a few people right in, but 437 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: I'm going I'm gonna read Thomas. It's really ultimately, Chuck, 438 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: I don't. It's gotten to the point where I'm not 439 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: sure why I opened my mouth unless I'm definitively sure 440 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: I know what I'm talking about, because I tend to 441 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 1: say the exact opposite of what's true. I know, but 442 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: you know that's Uh, that's part of the show. You know. 443 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: People like finding little tidbits that we get wrong. It's 444 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: becoming the crux of the show. No, no, no, these 445 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: are things, These are little tidbits. This is this is 446 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: not high science here, It's about Superman for godsakes. Um, Hi, guys, 447 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: have been listening to your great podcast for a while 448 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: and I love them. I've never seen an email, but 449 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 1: I felt I needed to correct something in the Earthquake podcast. 450 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: You said Superman lied to Lex Luthor's girlfriend. I believe 451 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: was he's test marker. Uh not true, Superman did not lie. 452 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: She made him a promise. She made him promise to 453 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: save her mother before stopping the missile headed for California. 454 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: He reluctantly agreed, and she removed his Kryptonite necklace and 455 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: flew to Hackensack, New Jersey to say, miss test Marker's mom. 456 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: After he pushed the missile to space, you turned around 457 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: to see the second missile hit the San Andrea's fault. 458 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: So sorry, Superman did not lie, and he even says 459 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: uh in his own words, lois, I never lie. It 460 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: comes from Thomas from Harvard, Illinois. He's a dogmatic and inflexible. 461 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: He may have toxic plasms. I think he does. And 462 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: this is from Anthony. Hey, Chuckers, listen to the new 463 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: podcast on twinkies. He didn't address you. I thought that 464 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: was weird. Does well because they think that you don't 465 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: read the listener meal when in fact you too. Yeah. 466 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: I get the listener emails too, you just don't respond 467 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: and read them on the air. To clear that up, 468 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: Josh treats everything. Yeah, so hey Chuckers and Josh, oh, 469 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: he did say that, I just missed it. Uh. Bell 470 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: is a whole lot of unnecessary twinkies reminded me of 471 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: a time in the early nineties when I worked at 472 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: The State News, Michigan States University's independent student newspaper, Start, 473 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: we had a weekly junk food cookie day when we 474 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: would all chip in a buck or two, multiplied by 475 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: a staff of fixed fifty or sixty, and get heaps 476 00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: of sugary and salty snacks. While gorging ourselves on Twinkies. 477 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: We had a debate about their shelf life. We took 478 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: some gaffer tape one of your favorite things. I love that, 479 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: and uh stuck at two pack up on the inside 480 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 1: of a locker, intending to leave it for as long 481 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: as possible. For over three years. We watched the twinkies 482 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: disintegrate into heaps of powder, but never during our experiment 483 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,239 Speaker 1: during did we see any mold visible. We eventually threw 484 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: away the package, and I have not even from sins 485 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: how it comes from Anthony? Well, Anthony, Yeah, what year 486 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: did he say? He didn't Well, he said early nineties, 487 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: so he was he was, he's my age. Yeah, we're 488 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 1: grunging it out. You cried when krit Cobain died. Dues. 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