WEBVTT - Lakers/Bulls Postgame Spaces 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:17.560 M m all right, welcome to the State of the 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:19.520 Lake Girls on DASK Radio. Thank you guys so much 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:22.119 for coming to hang out on a Sunday. It is 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:24.520 good to be back, Rods. I haven't heard your voice 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:26.400 in a week. Well, I guess technically i've heard your voice. 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:28.800 I've heard your voice listening to the podcast. But it 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:32.360 is good to be back with you. Sincerely, I appreciate 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:36.040 you covering for me during what was an absolutely crazy week. 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:39.360 I was complaining yesterday that, like, as much as I 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:41.519 love the holidays and getting to be around all my 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:45.040 loved ones and you know, getting to really just step 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:48.040 away from being so busy on work related stuff and 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:50.760 kind of focus on family. It's it's great, but man, 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:52.559 it can it be stressful when it's just one thing 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:55.360 after the other after the other. And obviously with my 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:58.320 grandfather's funeral, you're being able to cover for me meant 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:00.480 a lot. I sincerely appreciate it. But it is good 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:03.040 to be back. Um and I we have a lot 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:06.479 to talk about tonight, my friend mm hmm, yeah for sure. Yeah, 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:08.520 good to have you back, man. I hope the holiday 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:10.920 party was good. I hope it was a safe travels 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:12.840 up to where you were going. Um, we were kind 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:14.920 of going back and back and forth doing kind of 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:17.600 solo stuff. But yeah, good to have you back, man. 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:19.240 How are you, Man, I haven't I haven't. Haven't been 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:21.399 able to talk to you for a while. I'm doing good. 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:24.600 It's been you know, the Lakers have certainly kept things interesting. 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:28.920 This has been a bizarre week. I was talking with 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:32.560 Eddie Gonzalez from the E t c S this morning 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:35.000 on a space that I did with him, just kind 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:38.319 of about just how crazy this COVID stuff is and 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:41.760 how bizarre it is in the short term and in 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:43.240 the long term to kind of think about how it 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:45.480 impacts things. And you know, one of the big things 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:48.680 that I was saying this morning was, you know, they're 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:51.200 not going to pause the season. There's no reason. There's 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:53.120 absolutely no reason for on a bunch of different fronts. 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:55.600 They're not going to pose it because of the money, obviously, 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:57.480 but they're also not going to pose it because it 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:00.680 doesn't actually solve the problem. Like these guys aren't gonna 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:03.520 go lock themselves in their houses. They're gonna go do 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:06.760 stuff that rich people do, like they're gonna go, uh, 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:09.360 you know, hang around other people and and and have 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:11.840 fun and that it just was never it was never 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:15.880 an actual solution to the problem. Um and logistically trying 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:17.880 to reschedule a ton of games that's already going to 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:20.519 be complicated enough for them to reschedule the games that 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:23.120 they have to reschedule. So, you know, I was just saying, 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:25.000 you know, to Eddy, I was like, it's just gonna 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:27.720 be a weird couple of weeks. You know, they stopped 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:29.280 testing for a while, so a bunch of guys got 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:31.920 infected because they had guys that were carrying the virus 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.600 around walking around the team when they didn't know. And 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:37.320 now they're testing. So over the course of the next 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:39.800 few weeks, this is going to really die down, I think, 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:42.240 and things will get back to normal. But right now, 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:45.120 in this little stretch of time, it's gonna be weird. 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:48.400 And you just watched a really really weird basketball game 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:51.520 Rock that was it was really weird. Like we're gonna 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:54.560 talk about a lot of the some stuff that's relevance, 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:56.639 but there's a lot of stuff that we saw tonight 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:59.560 that's just irrelevant to what this Laker team is going 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:02.640 to be it through without Anthony David Siro, without any 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:05.760 of these circumstances. It's just there's a lot of unusual stuff, 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:09.040 if that makes sense. Yeah, the rough part about tonight 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.560 and it's one game, and we're gonna be out, you know, 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:14.080 without a D for like four to six weeks. People 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:15.800 think four weeks. I think that's on the lor end. 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:20.160 I think it's gonna be closer to around six. Yeah. Yeah, 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:22.440 And my thing with this game is like you would 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:25.440 hope when you play this hard you're rewarded with a win, right, 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:27.120 Like that would have been nice, Like this was a 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:29.960 game they actually did try. Everyone seemed to want this one. 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:32.240 They all played. You missed the Minnesota game. I don't 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:34.000 know if you got back, you got to rewatch that 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:38.640 one fully. Yeah, that was just an ugly effort game. 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:40.640 I mean, Minnesota came out and punched just round the 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.120 mouth Carl Anthony Towns did. But just from effort, body 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:46.080 language standpoint, that was bad. Um even before a D 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:48.120 obviously went down. And then you talked about how when 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.720 a D went down, our spirits just died with him, right, 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:53.000 Like our spirits just went into the locker room kind 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:55.680 of with him. That's why I kind of saw from 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:57.880 from tonight as well a lot of weird lineups. Obviously, 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.360 not of stuff you can really take in terms of process, 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:02.040 but I think in these four to six weeks, this 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:05.520 is kind of what the center lineup will kind of 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:07.680 look right like, especially if they don't go and get 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:09.880 us another center. And I'm sure we'll touch on that later, 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:12.320 but Lebron was mostly the center for a lot of this. 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:16.160 Tobiasa played center. DeAndre Jordan's still looks unplayable even in 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:19.440 his minutes. That's why I saw from tonight. Obviously, Isaiah Thomas, 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:21.680 I think we both agree that he's not probably long 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:24.960 for this team. But yeah, it's just it's just tough 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:27.800 to have a loss where the players really did try 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:29.360 like you would like to be awarded with the win 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:31.640 with the type of effort they displayed tonight, and they 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:34.640 weren't a lot of fouls. Twenty two turnovers is something. 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:37.560 A lot of them were just lackluster, just you know, 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:41.200 high risk, low reward type passes from our main playmakers. 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:43.719 It was a rough night that Jamorrow Derosen lived at 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:45.159 the free the line. He also hit a bunch of 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:47.560 clutch shots. You have to give it to him. Tough loss, though, 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:49.120 and this is the one you wanted to get because 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:50.800 you played Fenix next and I think they got Devin 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:53.960 Booker back tonight. Just just a tough one to move 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:57.799 on from. Yeah, you know, and like when it comes 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:01.719 to looking at what it can take away from tonight, 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:04.040 because like you know, you mentioned Isaiah Thomas, he's not 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:06.520 long for the team. I was so impressed by his 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:11.159 competitiveness tonight. I love that dude as a player and 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:14.400 compete and try to impact winning in really a difficult 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:16.920 situation if you think about what his circumstances are. A 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:19.240 guy who didn't go through training, cramp, didn't go through anything, 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:23.040 was literally just jammed into this situation under the COVID 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:26.720 circumstances and is playing with basically a fake basketball team 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:28.240 with the with the with a bunch of the guys 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:29.880 that are out there. It's like for him to come 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:31.839 out and to compete the way he did and to 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.039 help this team the way that he has is really impressive. 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:37.800 But it's irrelevant to to looking forward with this team 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:40.039 because they're just you would even if they wanted to 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:43.080 use that last roster spot right now, if the team 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:45.520 was healthy, they would never use it. On on on 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:48.320 on Isaiah Thomas it was just it was a stop 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:52.520 gap because Russell went into COVID protocols and they thought 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:54.080 he might be gone, and the leak monk was gone, 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:56.000 and all their guards started dropping. They had to do 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:58.200 what they had to do. But the so for me, Raj, 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:01.200 the couple of the handful of things that I saw 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:04.680 tonight that I thought were actually relevant is one, Lebron 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:08.960 continues to look great, especially around spacing, and Lebron is 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:11.479 synically putting together a couple of weeks stretch here where 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:17.240 he's been obviously the Minnesota game being kind of outlier. 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:20.440 His he just his his energy wasn't really with it 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:22.600 that night. Um, and we're not going to get too 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:24.880 far into that, but you know, Lebron still looks great. 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:27.479 That helps project well for this team. Like if Lebron 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:29.920 can stay healthy and he plays at this level, then 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:32.479 now we're now we're talking about how if a d 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:35.080 comes back after this injury and he's you know, healthy 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.200 and mobile and looking good, that we're going to be 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:39.240 in good shape. So the Lebron thing is good. And 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:41.560 then the second thing is and this is the thing 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:45.719 I think you wanted to hit on, right, complained a 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:48.440 lot early in the season that we had all these 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:52.479 lineups out there that weren't really functional basketball lineups because 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:55.280 when Lebron was off the floor, which was almost all 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:57.680 the time as a result of his injury, we would 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:01.240 have an assortment of small guards and then usually two 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:03.960 bigs on the floor at any given moment, or maybe 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:07.479 even sometimes when Lebron was out one one big you know, 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:09.480 Anthony Davis at center or to what howard its center 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:12.760 and four guards, and those just aren't functional lineups, especially 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:14.320 when you factor in all of the things you have 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:17.920 to accomplish outside of that, like defensive rebounding, like that 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:22.160 play tonight where Lebron, you know, blocks the DeMar diversion 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:24.080 at the rim. There's just no other big guys on 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:26.040 the floor to go get the rebounds. That's a huge 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:27.840 part of how to mark got the ball back, you know. 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:32.320 So the thing is is Trevor Resa gives us another 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:35.520 one of those guys, those guys that are in between 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:38.480 the guys that can are the jack of all trades 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:41.320 types of athletes on the floor, and when you see 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:44.640 him out there, the basketball lineups just make more sense. 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:48.440 And that's exciting to think about. When this team kind 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:50.560 of comes back to having all of their players is 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:53.360 having a reason plugged into a spot that has normally 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:56.760 been occupied by a guard. This year makes us a 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:59.600 team that is all of a sudden way more athletic, 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:04.520 way longer better with defensive rebounding, fewer misnatches in terms 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:07.760 of you know, if we're switching and and getting you know, 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:09.800 other guys from the other team on an island, Like 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:13.160 he just he just functionally makes so much of our 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:17.240 lineups makes so much, so much more sense. Yeah, for sure, 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:19.520 before like I get too deep into Trevor MS, because 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:20.760 I think he was a big part of this. I 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:23.480 think he's he's been like the positive news. I just 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:25.640 want to push back on the Isaiah Thomas stuff. Is 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:27.880 is not relevant. I think it's relevant in terms of 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:30.960 I see Kendrick Nun's role in Isaiah Thomas right, And 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:32.280 I think I texted you I wanted to kind of 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:34.760 get into that because I think that's an interesting kind 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:37.360 of thing. I think they're similar. Isaiah Thomas might be 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:39.320 the better three point shoot, like the better pull up 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:41.520 three point shooter, but Kendrick Dunn plays that kind of 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:43.679 play style, right, And I talked about this. I think 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:47.080 the last one. We don't have very many mid range scorers, 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:49.079 and Isaiah Thomas being a guy who can come off 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:50.959 a screen roll and pull up in the mid range 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:53.720 just gives us another look. He also has the floater game, 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:56.240 and I think Kendrick Nunn kind of can fit into that, 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:58.920 and Kendrick Nuns a little taller as well, not by much, 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:01.120 but at least. I think it's significant in terms of 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.800 those two in terms of how they're attacked defensively. You 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:05.960 see how teams go at Isaiah Thomas, even Cruz, so 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:07.559 I'll try to go at him. But Kendrick Nunn is 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:09.680 at least, if he's not a good defenders, at least 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:12.040 an average defender. And that's where I see Isaiah Thomas 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:14.560 is his scoring and stuff as relevant. I think it 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:17.080 fits right into what Kendrick Nunn is. Uh, do you 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:18.720 agree with that? Only to ask you about that, because 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:20.760 I think that's just an interesting kind of way to 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:23.000 look at it. I think they score in similar ways, right, 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:25.880 Kendrick Nuns are very off the pick and roll, get 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:27.960 into the mid range, floater game, get to the basket, 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:30.240 a little bit more athletic as well, finishing at the rim. 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:33.000 Thomas has been grey, he's been competitive. But I just 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.280 think that's where like, that's where you can compare, and 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:36.959 that's what you can take I guess from the Isaiah 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:39.360 Thomas role here. And look, I say Thomas may sit 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:41.000 fit with the team, I just don't think you will. 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:43.040 You don't think you will either. WRIT think Kendrick Nunn 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:45.160 fitting in Frisaiah. They do a lot of similar things. 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:47.679 And it also helps having another ball handler out there 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:50.120 right Lebron Russ and just one more ball handler that 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:55.240 can do something with it and hugely important exactly and 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:57.600 just giving another guy with's with a little bit of 0:09:57.640 --> 0:09:59.959 handle and shot and a guy that defense has to respect. 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:02.640 And even if I t gets killed defensively, our offense 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:04.600 you can tell, just has a big boost having another 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:05.960 ball handlers. I want to ask you about that. Do 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:08.120 you see that comparison as well, that Kendrick Nunn kind 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:11.840 Isaiah Thomas uh player archetype. I guess they're not the 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:14.520 exact same player, but I think they just kind of 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:18.040 fit and do similar things offensively. So I do agree 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:21.160 with you in principle about you know, the archetype of 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:23.040 player in the way that it works well. One of 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:25.520 the big differences between Isaiah Thomas and a guy like 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:28.360 Kendrick Nunn, and the reason why it's a little less 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:33.199 functional is Isaiah Thomas shoots at the top of an 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:38.360 elevated kicks off, gets up into a shot, and shoots 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:40.520 at the top. So he's really good when he's coming 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:43.040 off of the screen at making people pay with a quick, 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:46.040 high release, even at his height. Kendrick Nunn is a 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:49.240 little bit more of a set shooter, so he's not 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:52.840 as good at those dynamic pull up jump shots that 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:56.880 Isaiah Thomas takes. And I'm specifically talking about jump shots 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.680 when we get into the paint, all those the assortment 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:02.199 of little floaters and push shots and things like that. 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:07.360 Kendrick Nunn, so and I'm just I'm I guess I'm 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:09.480 just paying a compliment to Wasaiah Thomas there. There's just 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:11.959 not that many guys in the league that are that 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:15.120 dynamic off the dribble as a jump shooter, and Kendrick 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:17.199 Nunn is certainly not at that level. But yes, I 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:19.840 agree with you in terms of the overall archetype of 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:22.200 the player, especially as a guy who has all of 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:25.320 those in between moves, which is something that is like 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:28.120 utterly lacking from Russell Westbrooks game right, Like when when 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:30.400 Russell westbrook gets in the lane and he takes anything 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:32.800 that's not a layup, you just assume it's gonna miss, 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:36.120 you know, and that having having somebody in the lineup, 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:40.000 it's definitely exciting. So I definitely agree with you on 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:41.880 that front, but I wanted to hear your opinion on 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:46.600 the Trevor Reis and stuff. Yeah, he just fits right. 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:49.800 He just knows where to be on defense, on offense. 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:52.040 He's also a threat offensively to hit a three tonight 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:54.440 as well. I think he puts all our players in 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:56.920 the right spot and he's gonna be huge for the 0:11:57.280 --> 0:11:59.160 for the week we have without a d to me, 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:01.360 and we played him at center tonight as well. There's 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:04.200 a super versatile forward. And even when we're fully healthy, 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:06.839 I said, we're lacking in versatile forwards and he's a 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:09.079 guy that helps with that, you know, thirty six year old. 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.520 I thought he moved well. Um, he did a nice job. 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:13.200 I thought on de Rosen in the minutes he had. 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:14.840 I think he was like a plus six or something 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:17.559 for the night when I checked. He just fits with 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:19.400 the team needs to do high basketball. I Q it's 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:21.000 just nice to have a player that is in the 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:23.680 right spots right and he's in the right spots and helping. 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:26.000 He's a guy that's done this his whole career. He's 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.079 been a role player kind of a lot of older 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:30.480 players have been like the guy the other whole career 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:32.719 and trying to are moving into role player kind of 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:35.600 role player status. He's been a role player pretty much 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:37.120 his whole career, so you can tell he just knows 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:40.320 where to feel. He feels corners correctly, he screens and 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.800 rolls really nicely, and he's a big part of our 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:44.640 small ball I feel, and I think that's the key 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:47.000 for him because I don't know if they'll pick up 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:48.560 another center or not, but it looks like we're gonna 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:50.400 go a lot of Lebron at the five, a lot 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:53.280 of centerless lineups. They played a reason Carmelo at the 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:55.320 four or five tonight, and I think he makes Carmelo's 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:57.960 job a little easier as well. Carmelo likes all the 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:01.079 responsive I don't think Carmelo likes the responsibilities that a 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:04.080 four takes, let alone the five. And Trevor Reason does 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:06.319 trev Reason guy that fights he gets into it right, 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:08.439 He's not afraid to get hurt, not afraid to get 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:10.840 get in there and get dirty a little bit on rebounds. 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:13.000 I thought he was good. I thought he looked you know. 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:14.600 I think he looked like Trevor Reason. And he's going 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:16.640 to get in a better rhythm as we go here 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:18.800 and as he plays more. I just think he fits well. 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:21.280 I thought he fits as seamless as you could have 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:24.400 for his first minutes, first minutes tonight, and he's gonna 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:26.160 be a big key of this team. I'm worried about 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:28.880 the load we're gonna put on him, because again, I 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:30.679 think he's gonna have to play big minutes. I thought 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:33.160 they were. I was worried about that tonight. I was 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:36.120 worried about that tonight. Yeah, and they didn't start. Did 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:38.160 they start him to start the second half? I believe 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:42.760 they did, right because I know, yeah, so they started, 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:45.400 they started Trevor Reason. Honestly, I think if Trevor was healthy, 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:47.439 you know, for the last few weeks, he probably starts 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:50.280 tonight anyway. But yeah, I thought like he looked good. 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:52.440 He looks like he fits. I was a little lower 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:54.320 on him than you were over the over the summer. 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:56.320 I was worried about the mile that he's had, but 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:58.560 it looks like in five minute role, this is what 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.120 this is what he can he can even it's it's 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:05.240 so needed on this team. It jumps out. Yeah, agree, 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:09.040 he's I'm I'm super super excited about a reason. We're 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:12.400 not going to even really begin to get to understand 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:16.000 how valuable he is until until we get more of 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:18.160 our guys back. Like that's the crazy part with the reason, 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:21.480 because he is a textbook like final piece of the 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:25.280 other lineup grouping. You know, right now, he's more of 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:27.760 like a like he's going to be the third, second 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:29.880 or third best player on the floor, and a lot 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:32.000 of these lineups just because of the weirdness with COVID, 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:34.400 so you can't even like for him to look you know, 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:39.160 serviceable now is even is very encouraging. But so, um, 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.720 I wanted to get your opinion on this and and 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:45.320 I'm curious to hear where you're at with this. So 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:47.520 I'm with you. I think A D is going to 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:50.240 be out at least eight weeks. I think I think 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:53.280 we're looking So the reason why is because if you 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:55.880 really factor and ramp up, if you really factor in 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:58.120 the fact that the Lakers more or less are not 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:00.360 going to have an opportunity to get a top seed, 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:03.320 just because of the reality of the situation. This is 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:06.000 a team that at at this point it's just got 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:09.320 to be thinking anywhere but seven. So they're just gonna 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:12.680 be fighting for that sixth seed, right And and from 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:17.160 that standpoint, you know, rushing a d back to try 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:19.840 to make a blitz at the top of the top 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:21.800 side of those standings doesn't really make sense. So I 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:23.960 think they're gonna be a little more cautious with him, 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:27.160 especially since we've all seen plenty of examples in NBA 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:29.240 history of guys spraining their knee, coming back to early 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:31.400 and then something bad happening. So I'm a big believer 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:35.520 in them probably taking their time with this. And so 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:38.480 from that standpoint, we're looking at probably getting a d 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:40.880 back in my opinion, and I could be wrong. Hopefully 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:46.040 it's better, but probably around middle February. So you saw 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:48.920 tonight a good example of how decimated our front courts. 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:50.960 Obviously Dwight Howard makes it a little bit better, but 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:53.160 ideally you don't want to Ideally you don't want to 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:56.320 play DeAndre Jordan. It although right, so ideally it's gonna 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:58.920 be if they didn't make any sort of moves, you're 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:01.520 gonna be seeing a lot of Dwight Howard and Lebron 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:06.040 James literally trading off playing center. So like we're decimated 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:08.560 in the front court. That's just the reality of our situation. 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:10.920 And I talked, I talked a lot with you over 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:12.800 the course of the season that I thought th HT, 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:15.240 you know, because I believe he's gonna be an All Star, 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:17.680 I think you should hold on to him and only 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:19.520 cash him in if you get to the point where 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:21.680 you're near the deadline the team is trending in the 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:24.400 right direction. Th HD isn't much of a part of that. 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:26.000 It's a way to go all in on the season. 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:28.520 And that was kind of my patient approach with that. 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:34.000 I think under these circumstances with a d being out 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:38.280 but not seriously out, and knowing that the season is 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:40.840 not lost and there still is an opportunity to make 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:43.920 a playoff run here, I would cash in th HD 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:48.280 as soon as humanly possible with his contract to get 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:51.560 something in the front court, preferably that you know, Kendrick 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:55.600 Non th HT for Miles Turner type of deal because 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:57.880 of the fact that I think you have to. The 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:01.880 only way you're gonna float in the standings enough is 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:05.679 going to be bringing in a legitimate center. And you 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:07.720 saw tonight. You you talk, I think you might have 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:09.639 been one of the people tweeting about this, But Lebron 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:13.359 was unbelievable defensively on the back end. Tonight took a 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:16.640 handful possessions off, but he was unbelievable. And he cannot 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:19.879 do that for the next two months. I genuinely think 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:22.480 that would be a terrible idea. I know he's physically 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:23.960 capable of it. I just think it would be a 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:26.000 terrible idea. And then over the course of these next 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:28.280 two months you're gonna need so much out of him offensively. 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:32.800 So I'm of the opinion that you have to absolutely 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:36.000 have to bring in a legitimate center and put d 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:38.159 White back in that backup center role. Do you agree 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:40.959 with me? Are you taking the let's just wing it 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:44.840 for the next two months approach? Well? First, so, um, 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:47.640 I think his name is Jeff's thoughts, Uh? He he didn't. 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:50.440 I think his Jeff thoughts. Yes, at in street clothes, 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:53.359 he does a great job kind of uh doing injuries 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:55.720 and NBA injuries, and I think he does other sports too. 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:58.600 He said the average for for the a D injury 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:00.840 is twenty two games, which is about six and a 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:03.680 half weeks, right, which is which puts a D back 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:06.040 February second. It's still you know, it's still a while 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:08.640 is away. My issue with this conversation because I've seen 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:10.000 this a lot and people are like, Okay, let's go 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:11.679 trade for voles Turner, right, and I think that's the 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:13.920 name that probably pops out up props up a lot. 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:18.320