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Speaker 1: for coming to hang out on a Sunday. It is

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Speaker 1: good to be back, Rods. I haven't heard your voice

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Speaker 1: is good to be back with you. Sincerely, I appreciate

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Speaker 1: I was complaining yesterday that, like, as much as I

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Speaker 1: a lot. I sincerely appreciate it. But it is good

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Speaker 1: good to have you back, man. I hope the holiday

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Speaker 1: How are you, Man, I haven't I haven't. Haven't been

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Speaker 1: It's been you know, the Lakers have certainly kept things interesting.

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Speaker 1: way they go with this. I don't think they're gonna

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Speaker 1: make a trade right now because your only trade offer

430
00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,800
Speaker 1: is THHC and you don't have four weeks. They can't, Jason.

431
00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,399
Speaker 1: They can't just lose at a crazy pace, right The

432
00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,720
Speaker 1: West is. It's not great, but it's still good enough

433
00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,080
Speaker 1: to where you you don't want to be in the

434
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Speaker 1: play in, right. I know you said that they're not

435
00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:40,400
Speaker 1: going to try to fight for a to top seed,

436
00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:41,600
Speaker 1: but you don't want to be in the play in Like,

437
00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,639
Speaker 1: that's not where you want to be in this Uh.

438
00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,080
Speaker 1: I think if they're like five hundred, if they can

439
00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:47,840
Speaker 1: stay around there and they have eight of their next

440
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Speaker 1: ten games at home, uh coming up here, So like

441
00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,480
Speaker 1: it's a it's a tough thing, but I would try out.

442
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,399
Speaker 1: You know, Jay Health the other I believe he's on

443
00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,840
Speaker 1: a two way, right, I believe like I would try

444
00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,920
Speaker 1: him out, maybe see you maybe see if you can

445
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,560
Speaker 1: sign a minimum center somewhere. Um, But that's where I

446
00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,399
Speaker 1: would go with this because I don't think trades are

447
00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,320
Speaker 1: even a possibility yet. Your only trade your only trade

448
00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,159
Speaker 1: pieces are THHD and Kendrick Nunne. D Nunn has not

449
00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,440
Speaker 1: touched the floor this year and T is not tradeable

450
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,760
Speaker 1: for four weeks. So like, I don't know how we

451
00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,000
Speaker 1: I don't know how we get into trade discussions to

452
00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,320
Speaker 1: solve the eighties not here to play center when that's

453
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Speaker 1: a when we can't trade our main piece until January.

454
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Yeah, so I do, so

455
00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,360
Speaker 1: let me So this is a good discussion. I'm glad

456
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Speaker 1: you're on the other side of this because this always

457
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,280
Speaker 1: makes it more interesting when you can get two people

458
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,600
Speaker 1: to kind of bounce the you know, counter examples off

459
00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,879
Speaker 1: of each other. So I look at it from two perspectives.

460
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Speaker 1: First of all, I think that a D on the

461
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Speaker 1: injury spectrum is probably going to take a longer rather

462
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Speaker 1: than shorter. Okay, um, that's just my personal belief there.

463
00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,520
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but I tend to think that

464
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Speaker 1: if the average tells us uh, Anthony Davis is coming

465
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Speaker 1: back in early February, then it's probably gonna be closer

466
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Speaker 1: to late February. So I look at it. That's part

467
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Speaker 1: of it. And then the second part of it is

468
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 1: I look at it from functional basketball and the best

469
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Speaker 1: possible strategy with which two float things until a D

470
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Speaker 1: gets back. Right. So we just talked about how I

471
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 1: think it's absurd to try to ask Lebron to be

472
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Speaker 1: Draymond Green while also being m v P level offensive

473
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Speaker 1: Lebron for the next two months. I don't think that

474
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Speaker 1: that's a realistic expectation. So yeah, exactly, so my calendar.

475
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Speaker 1: So so for instance, if we if we run, if

476
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Speaker 1: we go all in on small ball and only use

477
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Speaker 1: you know, like a lot of DeAndre Jordan in those

478
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 1: other minutes, and we go heavy on switching, it's just

479
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 1: gonna be complicated for Lebron in the short term to

480
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,439
Speaker 1: try to make that work. So if you bring in

481
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Speaker 1: a legitimate center, then you can at least go back

482
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Speaker 1: to something that benefits your limits patitions elsewhere. So, for instance,

483
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 1: we have guards that can't defend at the point of attack.

484
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,360
Speaker 1: So it's so important when you have guards that can't

485
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 1: defend at the point of attack to have size around

486
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,919
Speaker 1: the rim that can deter driving driving lanes. Right, And

487
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,639
Speaker 1: so I think like if you had to play fake

488
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Speaker 1: basketball for two months to try to float things until

489
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Speaker 1: you can lean into your true identity. When a d

490
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Speaker 1: gets back, I think it makes more sense to play

491
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Speaker 1: some bigger guys. That's just that's just my my take

492
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Speaker 1: on it. And and again, like you you guys know

493
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Speaker 1: how I feel in real life here, like when this

494
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 1: team gets healthy, you guys know I preached switching all

495
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 1: the time. I would go all in on ditching the centers.

496
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 1: Having a d and Lebron play center switch everything, you know,

497
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Speaker 1: especially when you got a reason out there. I'm a

498
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Speaker 1: big believer in that style, especially when it comes playoff time.

499
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 1: I just don't think without Anthony Davis you can do

500
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 1: that for two months right now. But that that's just

501
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,479
Speaker 1: my two cents on it. Well, like to me and

502
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 1: also a solution to this, and I agree to me,

503
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: I think you have to go small ball, go offensive,

504
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 1: go offensive minded here. I think Austin Reeves, uh th

505
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 1: h t Baysmore a big part of this because we

506
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 1: saw some of the detriments to playing Lebron at the

507
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: five is rebounding, right, That's an issue, and we have

508
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 1: small guards. Russell Westbrooks the guy that doesn't box out either, right,

509
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: He's a stand, try to get the ball by jumping

510
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 1: type of rebounder, and I thought that we saw that tonight.

511
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: Lebron as well, can't be the guy trying to go

512
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 1: and rebound for for everyone. And Isaiah Thomas is too

513
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 1: small as well, trying to get bored. So I think

514
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Speaker 1: like getting Austin Reaves back, getting Kent Baysmore, who hopefully

515
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,679
Speaker 1: you know, can play as well he did in Minnesota,

516
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 1: but getting those guys back, I think I think helps

517
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 1: as well. Trevor Reason goes as well, We're gonna have

518
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 1: to just try to fight through here, like and then

519
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 1: Dwight Howard coming back to Like, I don't think there's

520
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 1: a trade answer coming here. Maybe you can find a

521
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Speaker 1: big on the minimum, but Jason, like a big on

522
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Speaker 1: the minimum that can anchor a defense, Like I think

523
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Speaker 1: that's tough to find right now. Like, I don't think

524
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Speaker 1: those are out in the market, Like maybe you can

525
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Speaker 1: try to find one, but maybe in the g LA

526
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: you can find a center somewhere, like they did with

527
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Speaker 1: Damian Jones last year. I think Damon Jones was in

528
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: the G League last year. I don't remember, but he

529
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: was a guy they found as well and he was

530
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: able to play. But yeah, like that's the only issue.

531
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Speaker 1: It's an issue that's going to be a problem for

532
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Speaker 1: a long time, like at least for the next four

533
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Speaker 1: to six weeks. And I don't think trade there's any

534
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: trade option to find here. I just think try to

535
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Speaker 1: find it if you're two way guy can play center, uh,

536
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Speaker 1: and then try to buy some DeAndre Jordan, Like DeAndre

537
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 1: Jordan can come and place what eight minutes a game maybe, like,

538
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 1: can you do that? Like I think, I think twelve

539
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: minutes in a full half shift is too much though,

540
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: right you play twelve minutes at first half, that's too long,

541
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: that's way too long of a shift. Um, he looks

542
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 1: tired by like the six minute market. If you just

543
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: watch him closely, you can see his legs go out

544
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: from of him. He's already a guy that goes to

545
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: the path at least resistance on every place, so it's

546
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: just a bad mix for him. So that's where i'd go.

547
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: Hopefully we get Austin Reeves Trevor Reasa back and you

548
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: can play that switchy style if you get those guys.

549
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: But right now we can't, and that's why it looks

550
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 1: so so rough. But yeah, I don't. I don't think

551
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Speaker 1: a trade is coming man, like I know it would

552
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: be if h was tradeable. Now, I think this is

553
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: a different conversation, but he's not. He's not tradial for

554
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: another four weeks. They can't even have those. They can

555
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 1: have the conversations obviously, but they can't even think about

556
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 1: that until then. So I think you have the minimum.

557
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: You can get guys on the minimum or find if

558
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: your two way guys can play, and right now I

559
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 1: would try the two way guys can I think Isaiah

560
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: Thomas is going to stay for at least his ten

561
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 1: day contrary. Yeah, So I tend to think when you're

562
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Speaker 1: talking about centers, because you make a good point, like, oh,

563
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Speaker 1: go get a minimum center, maybe you can flip like

564
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 1: a you know, a guy like Malik Monk who other

565
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: teams are going to see as valuable for you know,

566
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 1: a guy out there who's who's on the minimum. I

567
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Speaker 1: get that. I think, you know, I'm a big believer

568
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: in going cheap on centers in a in a perfect world,

569
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Speaker 1: you know. For instance, like the reason why I was

570
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,479
Speaker 1: against the proposed Miles Turner trade is because I thought, like,

571
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: what's the point like that, You're we don't we we

572
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: don't expect much from that position. We're better off going

573
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 1: for a position where we have a shortcoming, which is

574
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 1: that on the wing. You know, when the guy like

575
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: Jeremy Grant like that, that ex more sense to me, right,

576
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: Like that was kind of my ideology there. But like

577
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 1: when Anthony, a lot of that was because of the

578
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: fact that Anthony Davis was on the team, you know,

579
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Speaker 1: And I think I think, like a minimum center does

580
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: a really nice job. When you're a team like Golden

581
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: State and you know you're so stacked at the other

582
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,719
Speaker 1: positions that you know, Kevin Kavon Looney is is operating

583
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: on a really limited role, and he can knock that

584
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,199
Speaker 1: limited roll out of the park. But I tend to

585
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: think that over this stretch of games, he's gonna be

586
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 1: asked to do a lot. Like I I whoever's in

587
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: that position, whoever is playing that role on this team,

588
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: is going to have a huge role. Unfortunately under the circumstances,

589
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: So it would be beneficial to have a good player there.

590
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 1: Will see, You're right, Like a lot can change by January.

591
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: You could have reports come out that's say a D

592
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 1: s N is doing better than expected. You could have

593
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: like you said, like maybe they lean crazy into small

594
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 1: ball and switching and just janket up on everybody the

595
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: way that Brooklyn did last year, and maybe they just

596
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: went a bunch of games. I mean, for the record,

597
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: they had no business even being competitive tonight, Like they

598
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: had no business being competitive with that Bulls team tonight.

599
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: Like even with the guys that were out for the Bulls,

600
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: they just had a far more functional basketball roster tonight

601
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: than we did. And we competed because we spread the

602
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: ship out of the floor and Lebron is an MVP,

603
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,959
Speaker 1: and and Rutts had his moments and Isaiah Thomas had

604
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: his moments. Like that's kind of how we we faked

605
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: it till we made it, if that made If that

606
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: makes sense, So I I can I can see where

607
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: you're coming from there. I'm just I'm just worried about

608
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: like workload stuff and things along those lines. But the

609
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: other the other thing I wanted to ask you and

610
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: I talked about this yesterday as well. You know, I'm

611
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: hopeful that Anthony Davis takes this opportunity to figure out

612
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: what's going on with his body. And and it could

613
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: be a couple of different things, right, Like he either

614
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: was dealing with some sort of nagging injury that was

615
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: limiting his mobile or he became overweight, not overweight from

616
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: a fat perspective, but overweight in terms of the way

617
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: he constructed his body over the course of the last

618
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 1: couple of years in the weight room. And you know

619
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: how that goes, Like when you we all know because

620
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: we've all been there if you've ever lifted before, but

621
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: you can drop that kind of thing relatively quickly by

622
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 1: getting out Jim, And I wonder if it's if this

623
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: time for a D is a good opportunity for him

624
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: to either figure out what's going on with his um

625
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: injuries that he's been coping with, or if this is

626
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: a body weight issue for him to kind of get

627
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 1: back down to an optimal body weight. And then you know,

628
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: the idea there is is hey, like, if a D

629
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: can come back mid February and just a perfect basketball

630
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: machine version of himself in terms of his conditioning and

631
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: just come back into a team that's desperate for him

632
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: to slot right back into that role and just go

633
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: on a run to end the season, like this could

634
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: all work out just fine, because the dirty little secret

635
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: is and you know, I don't think it's a comfortable

636
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,959
Speaker 1: topic because a D was hurt um, you know, and

637
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: it's it's uncomfortable to be like, oh, you know, a

638
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: D s waiting on Mr I results, Let's talk about

639
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: how much he sucked tonight, you know, like that that's

640
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: that's kind of an awkward topic. But man, he wasn't

641
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: playing good basketball like he he was getting I mean,

642
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: he got manhandled by Karl Anthony Towns a few times

643
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: in that game, and and just in general looked. We

644
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: complained all season about how he was getting beat on

645
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: rebounding position even though he was super strong, that his

646
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: mobility wasn't the same, that he didn't seem to have

647
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: that ability to get a step on guys. And he's

648
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: twenty eight years old, and the injuries he suffered in

649
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: the last couple of years were not serious, you know,

650
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: joint injuries that lead to you know, long term mobility concerns.

651
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: He didn't tear as achilles, He didn't you know, have

652
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: a severe you know, a knee injury now, like he

653
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: pulled his groin, you know, and like he had some

654
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,479
Speaker 1: achilles tendon soreness that he waited out. Like he should,

655
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: in theory be more mobile than he is right now,

656
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: and for whatever reason, he hasn't been. And so I'm

657
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: hopeful that this couple of months here is a chance

658
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: for Anthony Davis to get his body right, whether that's

659
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: healing injuries or getting back down to a more functional

660
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: body weight. But that's kind of like another thing that

661
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: I see as like a you know, pseudo silver lining here. Yeah, definitely,

662
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: Like we've been watching the full season It definitely looks

663
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: like he's put on mass. He doesn't look as mobile

664
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: as he did. I mean to put in context and

665
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: we always try to, you know, put the human element

666
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: as well. He has had a large low defensively, and

667
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about this because this is

668
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: something that's tough too. It's tough to define. I guess

669
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: it's just something you see when you watch every game.

670
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,239
Speaker 1: He's looked frustrated on most nights, right just just in

671
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: general playing basketball. And I want to ask you this.

672
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: He doesn't he doesn't look like as joyful playing ball.

673
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: Like that's such a weird thing for like to look

674
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: at with a D Would you agree with that? Like,

675
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: I don't know how to put that in context. Not

676
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: saying he's not enjoying playing basketball, It just it doesn't

677
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: look as fun, I guess as it used to. It

678
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: looks like he's super serious all the time. And hopefully, hopefully,

679
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: I'm hopeful that this time off just gets him a

680
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: little bit more, you know, en circle with himself, able

681
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: to heal whatever was was hurting him. It definitely looked

682
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: like he wasn't add percent. And again the numbers are

683
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: all there though, all the leading in points, uh, you know,

684
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: leading points in the pain, leading with dougs, leading, dunks

685
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: and all that stuff is there. It's just when you

686
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: watch it, it it just feels like, again we talked about

687
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: this before, when he plays the five, it feels like

688
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: he goes to into injury prevention mode. And maybe that's

689
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: some of it. Is that, maybe some of it he

690
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: feels like he has a lot of responsibilities. He just

691
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: looks frustrated and looks like he's not as enjoyable on

692
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: the floor. Would you agree with that? Or is that

693
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: like me kind of stretching this out to somewhere where

694
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: it's not there? Is that? Is that just me seeing things?

695
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: Because I want to ask you about that as well. No,

696
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: I think I don't think. I don't think that's in question.

697
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: I think A D has very clearly been in some

698
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: sort of mental funk this year in a lot of ways.

699
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's any sort of larger issue.

700
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: I think it's just human nature. I mean, the reality,

701
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: the reality of the situation is aside from those metrics

702
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: which you mentioned, which are you know, we we've talked

703
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: about E D is so freakishly talented that you know,

704
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: twenty and ten for him isn't the same as twenty

705
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: in ten for Clint Compella, Like twenty and ten for

706
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: a guy like Anthony Davis is you know, if he's

707
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: not engaged the way he usually is, is is not a

708
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: great night, you know what I mean? Where whereas you

709
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: be thrilled to the moon if if if Clint Compella

710
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: did that for you, you know what I mean. So

711
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: there's a different there's like a sliding scale with a

712
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: lot of this stuff. Um, But that said, like I

713
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: think he here's the thing. He's not playing as well

714
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: as he knows he can and and the team is

715
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: massively underachieving, and it's human nature, Like losing basketball games

716
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: really sucks, Like it really sucks, especially when you're you know,

717
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: with this core, the core of this group, you're used

718
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: to win it, you know what I mean. Like we've

719
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: talked about it the I've said this stat a million

720
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: times on this pot. But coming into this season, when

721
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: Lebron James and Anthony Davis suited up in the purple

722
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: and gold for the Lakers, they won almost eight percent

723
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: of their games that that would like counting the playoffs.

724
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: That's how dominant this group was. And so for them

725
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: to be, you know, going into that Minnesota game sitting

726
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: at sixteen and thirteen and to have been dealing with

727
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: a bunch of injuries, like it has an impact on

728
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: body language, even Lebron has had a couple of times

729
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: this year. Actually I'm not we don't want to get

730
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: into it tonight because it's kind off topic. But I

731
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: thought Lebron has been surprisingly good with his leadership after

732
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: in his history that's been a weak point for him

733
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: when things get bad. I remember coming on here and

734
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: talking about how I thought we might be going down

735
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: a dark path on the Lebron front. You know, you

736
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: remember that, Like, but it just ended up not It

737
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: just ended up not happening. And that's a credit to Lebron.

738
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: But the point is is it's been that kind of season.

739
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: It's been a roller coaster and so you know, and

740
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: look at it from Anthony Davis's perspective too, Like he

741
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: went from playing with a group of guys who were

742
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: devoted to the dirty work to suddenly playing with a

743
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: group of guys where that's so far back on their

744
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: list of of basketball priorities that he's caught cleaning up

745
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: after them all the time. And now to to you know,

746
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: to those guys defense like a D hasn't been that

747
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: great either on on those areas of the game, but

748
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: he's been a hell of a lot better than them,

749
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: the rest of the guys on the roster, at least,

750
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: you know, up until this last couple of weeks. And

751
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: so I would imagine it's been extremely frustrating for him

752
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: to constantly see the guards not helping on defensive rebounding

753
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: when they used to when it was k CP and

754
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: Kyle KU's not not boxing out, not you know, not

755
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: offering some resistance on the back line, not rotating like

756
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 1: I'm sure, I'm sure it was frustrating for him, you know. Um,

757
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: and then and then obviously this is the last thing

758
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: I'll say about it, Like integrating a basketball team is

759
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: hard as well. This is something I talked about a lot,

760
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: you know, when we're talking about team construction and you know,

761
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: the give and take of ball handlers, like you know,

762
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: it's when you go. It happens to me all the time,

763
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: like I'll go play pick up and I'll run into

764
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: a bunch of my buddies that used to play in

765
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 1: college and from you know, every once in a while,

766
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: I'll be like, oh, let's all play together today, and

767
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: it always like ends up weirdly not working, you know,

768
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: because like we're all used to having the ball in

769
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: our hands and then suddenly you get in like a

770
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: five man operation with that, and it just doesn't function

771
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: in a single pickup game when the scores to eleven,

772
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: you know, when you don't have weeks and weeks to

773
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: figure it out, you know what I mean. Like that's

774
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 1: the thing here, Like it's Lebron Russ and Anthony Davis

775
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: are figuring out kind of a new partnership and there

776
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: are bumps that come with that, and it can be

777
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: frustrating at times. And I'm sure I'm sure Anthony Davis

778
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: has struggled with not being able to get off his

779
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: isolation game the way that he usually has in the past,

780
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: and a lot of its spacing, a lot of that's

781
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: because of us, and a lot of that's because of

782
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,959
Speaker 1: Frank and and I'm sure I'm sure he's been frustrated

783
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,959
Speaker 1: by that stuff. And and but that said, like it's

784
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: not an excuse for playing as poorly as he has been,

785
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 1: and I would attribute most of this to his body.

786
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: I just don't think he's anywhere near as and mobile

787
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 1: as he used to be. And I think that him

788
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: figuring that part out will be the quickest pathway to

789
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: him getting back to where he was, you know, back

790
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 1: in the bubble. Yeah, And I think him not being

791
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 1: able to hit a jump shot has also kind of

792
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: impacted him, right, You could tell like he's been frustrated

793
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: with it. I think you posted it. I think you

794
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: posted the three pointer that he airballed, right, you could

795
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: just tell his jumpers not there. And I think that

796
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: just that just translates to the rest of his game,

797
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: the rest of his office and game. He could tell

798
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: his aggression drops as well in that way. But you're right,

799
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: he's just looked frustrated this season, man. And maybe that's

800
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: the silver lining here if there is one, obviously, Like

801
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: this team goes nowhere without healthy Anthony Davis. I think

802
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: that's true. I think I think it's super unfortunate that,

803
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: you know, he goes out. In the next game, we

804
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: get Trevor Reason back, because we've been just waiting for

805
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: Trevor Reason to get added to this team. And it's

806
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: just a kind of sick circumstance that Trevor Reason comes

807
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: back and a d goes right it out. But hopefully,

808
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: you know, he takes his time, uh to kind of

809
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: get back into the shape he could have been a

810
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: little bit slimmer. Maybe just you know, finds a new

811
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: way to kind of fit into this team. I think

812
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 1: when you're not playing, you kind of see things that

813
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: that you don't see when you're on the floor as well. Right,

814
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: A lot of players talk about that they go on

815
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: the injury and they come back and they kind of

816
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: find their fit with the team a little bit better.

817
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: But it was rough. This team hasn't had a lot

818
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: of games where the big three can kind of work

819
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: on things. You have guys in and out. Russ has

820
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: played every game, e D I think has missed one,

821
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 1: but Lebron was out for a long time. So hopefully

822
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: like they can get back once he comes back. But

823
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: this is a rough stretch man four to six weeks.

824
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: Any team would go through a shock missing their second

825
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: bus player, especially one that's so important defensively. But I

826
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: just hope he finds a way to kind of navigate

827
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 1: back to this team because I don't think we've gotten

828
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,959
Speaker 1: the full Anthony Davis yet that we thought we would

829
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: over the summer. It just hasn't worked out that way,

830
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: even though the numbers, even though the numbers, you know,

831
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: paint the picture that it does us watching the game

832
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: every night, just hasn't been and he's been frustrated. And

833
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: I don't blame him. The guards are what they are,

834
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: but I can't fully like, I can't fully give that

835
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: up because he's been He's part of the roster construction.

836
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: To me, him Lebron are part of this that you

837
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: don't get to complain about it. And then also you

838
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: know he's part of recruiting DeAndre Jordan's as well. I

839
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 1: think he's been really open about that. So like that

840
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: stuff that I can't there's both sides to it. Obviously,

841
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: it's context and everything. But that's why I can't just

842
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: blame like he's not allowed to just be upset at them.

843
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: He's part of the roster and construction here, and they

844
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: knew what they were getting when they came into It

845
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: was going to be an offensive team. It was gonna

846
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: be a struggle. And I think when a D goes out,

847
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: it's just natural that Lebron is gonna have to pull

848
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: a heavier load here, especially on defense. I don't think

849
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: he can do what he did tonight every single night,

850
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: but it has to be at least some baseline level,

851
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,919
Speaker 1: right like, because they can't just fall, you know, off

852
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: a cliff here, and they have some easier games coming

853
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: up as well, And with the COVID situation, you don't

854
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: know what every team comes into every night with all

855
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: these people going into protocols, So maybe you get a

856
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: couple breaks here and there in terms of who you're

857
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: playing every night. But yeah, man, four to six weeks,

858
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: hopefully a E D comes back. I haven't checked how

859
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: players come back from that type of injury. Obviously, any

860
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: any injury that takes you out that long, it's going

861
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: to have an impact on you. Just hopefully he's able

862
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: to come back healthy and then we're gonna have it's

863
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: gonna be an adjustment for the whole team to try

864
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: to figure out what they do during that time. But

865
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: I don't see like reinforcements coming anytime soon, you know,

866
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: like because of our trade possibilities and what what we

867
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: can trade. Everyone's on a minimum deal. You brought up

868
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: Bleak Monk, you makes like what two three million dollars

869
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: a year, Like there's just there's just no salaries that

870
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: you can really um and any trade you trade them for,

871
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: if it's like a minimum center, you're kind of losing

872
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: on that deal because I think Monk has I'll played

873
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 1: his contract, so I just yeah, so I just don't

874
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: know where they go with this other than Lebron More

875
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 1: at center, which is taxing on him. Trevor Reads at center.

876
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: I thought that looked okay tonight, uh, and and go

877
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: from there. That's but it's a tough situation, man. We're

878
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: gonna be you know, we were you know, even when

879
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: we were fully healthy, A D and D and just

880
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: Dwight Howard was already like a thin center rotation right

881
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: like that was already kind of a thin center rotation

882
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,479
Speaker 1: with way the A D doesn't want to play center

883
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: for full on minutes, and now without a D is

884
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: just going to be It's gonna be rough. But we're

885
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 1: gonna need Lebron a step up and like to talk

886
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 1: about Trevor Resa hopefully Austin Reeves and Baysmore are you

887
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: able to come back, because I think they kind of

888
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: fit what we need right now. Going super small, uh

889
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: super small here, Yeah, well, with us having to go

890
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: super small, it'll be nice. It'll be nice to have

891
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: a reason in that spot. But you know, no one

892
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: feels no one's gonna feel sorry for the Lakers. And

893
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 1: because everyone's going through stuff, and there's already the there's

894
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: already the Laker aspect to this, you know, in terms

895
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 1: of just the way fan base is outside of of

896
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: of l a view the Lakers. And you know, when

897
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the human nature of it, that's I'm

898
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: explaining why I think, you know, I'm explaining why I

899
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: think Anthony Davis feels a certain way. But the truth is,

900
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: none of this is an excuse, like you have to

901
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: go out there and compete. That the Bulls have been

902
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: dealing with COVID. They had a huge out break. I

903
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: think tomarda rose and just got cleared. You know, the

904
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Nets have had an absolute nightmare of a season,

905
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: and in terms of player availability and uh, you know,

906
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 1: James Harden coming into the season way out of shape,

907
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving having the vaccination issue, and you know what,

908
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: that team just decided to play really good basketball and

909
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: they're in their best player decided that he's going to

910
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: play the best basketball of his career. And and I

911
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: and I give them a lot of credit for that

912
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: I think the Lakers have been trending in the right

913
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: direction lately, and I love the fight that I saw

914
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: out of the group tonight. So I don't want to

915
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: dwell on the past in terms of the way basketball

916
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: character that this team used to show at the start

917
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: of the season. But you know, there are no excuses here,

918
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: you know, And and I think because everybody on the

919
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: team is vaccinated, I think you're going to see a

920
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: lot of these guys come back sooner than later, and

921
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: and hopefully they can put together, you know, the facade

922
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: of a basketball team, you know, until until either January

923
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: when you can move p HT or if things are

924
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: serviceable enough and til Anthony Davis gets back. But is

925
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: there anything else you want to do tonight before we

926
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: call it a night. Well, I guess just the last thing.

927
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 1: So did you watch the second half of that that

928
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: Minnesota game? Right? I thought that, you know, it sucks

929
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: because I thought in that third quarter it kind of

930
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: showed what we were going to be. And Wayne Allington

931
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: is starting to get starts, like and this is just

932
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: the worst way from Wayne elling to get starts, But

933
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: I thought like that showed a little bit of what

934
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: we can be when we're healthy. I think we started Russ, Russ, Basemore, Ellington,

935
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 1: Lebron and a D, and I thought they really found

936
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: a rhythm. Kar Anthony Towns was killing us early, but

937
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: a D started to win those physical matchups against him,

938
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: and I thought, just that showed what we can be.

939
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: And I think there's still a good team in here.

940
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: It's just like we're gonna have to wait another four

941
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: to six weeks to see it. So that was my

942
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 1: last thing. I guess. I think I think we found

943
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: a little bit of something. It's just we're about to

944
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: go through a whole bunch more. I talked about how

945
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: this team needs to go through trial and error to

946
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: kind of figure out what's good and what's not, and

947
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: we're about to go through a whole bunch more trials

948
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 1: and errors. So I just hope people get ready because

949
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: it's they're gonna be some of the basketball going know exactly,

950
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: And and No, I I actually agree with you entirely

951
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: about the the second half against Minnesota. I tweeted out

952
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: the the little line graft thing that shows the team scores,

953
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 1: and how basically right when the A D injury happened,

954
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: those lines, you know, went opposite directions, and I tweeted

955
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: that out and I had a lot of people, you know,

956
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: in the mentions being like, ah, yeah, I don't we

957
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: sucked anyway, Like this is I disagree? Like I thought,

958
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I was like, first of all,

959
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: it's it's normal to go on the road and get

960
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: kind of punched in them out at the beginning of

961
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: the game, and then to fight back and make it competitively.

962
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: That's totally normal. And yeah, I get it Minnesota and

963
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: the standings doesn't look great, but I'm pretty sure they're

964
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: eleven and six when D'Angelo Russell, Karl Anthony Town's play

965
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: and in Patrick Beverley play. I think that's the I

966
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: saw that staff the other day. So they're not a

967
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: bad team when they have their players available. So, you

968
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: know what, it was a tough road game, and the

969
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: Lakers got off to a bad start. They are two

970
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: best players, both got off to really, really bad starts.

971
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 1: And then in the third quarter things kind of started

972
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 1: come together, and I thought they were gonna make a run,

973
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:03,959
Speaker 1: and I genuinely thought they were gonna win that game.

974
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: And then Anthony Davis got hurt and we talked all

975
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: about how how that can suck the life out of

976
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: the team. But I'm with you. I thought we're trending

977
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: in the right direction. This is an unfortunate circumstance. Uh,

978
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: we should all just take a second to be thankful

979
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: that it wasn't way worse, you know, in terms of

980
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 1: the injury. So all things considered, you know, it's gonna

981
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: be fine. And again, you know, and I said this

982
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: today with with Eddie, this next couple of weeks, none

983
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 1: of these teams should be judged like there's no judgment

984
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: to make about the Lakers tonight. Even if the Bulls

985
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 1: had lost at home to that depleted Lakers team, there

986
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: shouldn't be any judgment there. All of these teams are playing,

987
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: you know, I you know what kind of made me

988
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: feel like it kind of made me feel like charity

989
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,439
Speaker 1: basketball games. Like it felt like a charity basketball game

990
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: with big name NBA stars in it, mixed in with

991
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: guys that would have no minutes in any normal and

992
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: bea NBA scenario Like it's it just it's an unusual

993
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: in vironment. This next couple of weeks is gonna be weird.

994
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: We all just gotta suck it up. But it's gonna

995
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: get back to normal now, because they're testing everybody now

996
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: that this outbreak will be quelled and and things will

997
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: go back to normal. But hey guys, that's all we

998
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: have for tonight. So this is gonna be on dash

999
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: Radio tomorrow morning at seven and Pacific Standard time. This

1000
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: will be on our podcast feed here in a couple

1001
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: of hours, and then next game is Tuesday night. I

1002
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: believe at home against the Sun's if I'm not mistaken, UM,

1003
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: and I believe that's an eight o'clock start. Roger and

1004
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: I will both be back for that one. UM. So

1005
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: we will see you guys all on Tuesday night and

1006
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: enjoy the rest of your Sunday. We'll see you in

1007
00:45:37,560 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: a couple of days. Happy holidays, Thanks everyone,