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Speaker 3: special guests in here, the legend tash tash what's going on?
Speaker 1: Oh man, same fight, dimming around, just working man, working, working, working, just.
Speaker 2: As people might know, and everything from the group of alcoholics,
Speaker 2: of course, and as people might know that a lot
Speaker 2: of that that that living up to the image caught
Speaker 2: up to me.
Speaker 3: So are you trying to tell me that a member
Speaker 3: of the alcoholics is not drinking as much as.
Speaker 1: This sober halics that's what we call it. You guys
Speaker 1: are sober holics.
Speaker 3: Now, we don't really drink like that.
Speaker 2: When that it took a toll like twenty something years
Speaker 2: of just every single night as a party, every single
Speaker 2: day you wake up as a party, every time you
Speaker 2: got something you know to do that day. Uh, you know,
Speaker 2: drinking is involved with it some kind of way. So
Speaker 2: you know, I had to, you know, kick back and
Speaker 2: and pull on the rains like Santa Claus slowed down
Speaker 2: a little bit.
Speaker 3: So I always wondered this because you guys are amazing
Speaker 3: m season. I mean you, I mean, damn dude. You
Speaker 3: guys got classic albums. You guys have your fingerprints on
Speaker 3: so much of this West Coast shit that people don't
Speaker 3: even realize it's insane. But was ever a certain point
Speaker 3: in time where y'all got like two or three albums
Speaker 3: in where you were like, I know, because I know
Speaker 3: you guys went from the Alcoholics to the Licks right right,
Speaker 3: were you guys regretted just going all in with the
Speaker 3: alcoholics thing?
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, with a name like the Alcoholics.
Speaker 2: First of all, we was a young group, kind of
Speaker 2: sure and everything, so people miscing screwed the word alcoholics
Speaker 2: with like the bomb in the streets, with the little
Speaker 2: you know, the three dollars vodka and all this. You know,
Speaker 2: they they took the name and we got boycott, not boycott,
Speaker 2: but we called it. We got banned from a lot
Speaker 2: of shit like we had. We got invited to Soul
Speaker 2: Train and then we showed up there and they saw
Speaker 2: the name and they was like, hold on, we can't
Speaker 2: put Alcoholics on national TV. And like we we couldn't
Speaker 2: tour with trycoll Quest through the Bible Belt because of
Speaker 2: the name, and a lot of TV shows and shit
Speaker 2: turned it down because it was like we're trying to
Speaker 2: get away from the negative word alcoholics, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. But we spelled it different and told motherfuckers
Speaker 2: that we you know, we're really anti drinking and driving.
Speaker 2: We had a lot of positive ship to say too,
Speaker 2: but that get overlooked.
Speaker 3: You know, but did you did you guys? I mean,
Speaker 3: obviously everyone should be getting triagered to driving, but I
Speaker 3: can imagine once you guys start losing out on ship,
Speaker 3: it's like okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but see that's whatened that ship backfire too, because
Speaker 2: when we I don't know if somebody's idea was, let's
Speaker 2: change the name. Since they called us the Licks. You know,
Speaker 2: it's the Licks, baby, it's the Licks. They call us
Speaker 2: that anyway, let's change the name officially to the Alcoholics.
Speaker 2: So we did that for one album, which was a
Speaker 2: disaster because nobody that really fucked with us on the
Speaker 2: alcohol you know what I'm saying with the experience, right yeah,
Speaker 2: XO experience, we call ourselves the Licks, and it did
Speaker 2: not work because we got no more you know, say,
Speaker 2: we didn't get it else that we wasn't getting as
Speaker 2: the Alcoholics.
Speaker 3: So that was the last album on Loud.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I get I get mixed up, man,
Speaker 2: but that was that was the single. Yeah you can yeh,
Speaker 2: and actually it was it wasn't. That was the most
Speaker 2: selling single that we ever put out. It was one
Speaker 2: that tongue vibe for sure.
Speaker 3: So and that was like, oh one, I don't it
Speaker 3: was around I'm just trying to think of my head
Speaker 3: what year of school I was in.
Speaker 1: We we've been over here.
Speaker 2: We got signed in ninety three, so a lot of
Speaker 2: the dates and times and like that due to you
Speaker 2: know what, I was all this. I get mixed up
Speaker 2: because I know time pierce. Like when we told with
Speaker 2: Big I know that was ninety six, ninety five before
Speaker 2: he passed, right, And then it's kind of like it's
Speaker 2: kind of like I get things. I got all the
Speaker 2: memories of my head, but the day got time.
Speaker 3: You got to like work backwards, you remember what.
Speaker 2: I got to remember a physical thing, what was happening
Speaker 2: right then to know what day and time it was?
Speaker 3: Though? How did you Eat Swift and Jerrow initially meet
Speaker 3: back in the day.
Speaker 1: Man East Swift?
Speaker 2: We was We was already rocking as a group called
Speaker 2: Task Is Swift in the eighties and East Swift met
Speaker 2: Jay roll Through. I don't know if it was cousin
Speaker 2: keV or we got home with named cousin Kevin. I
Speaker 2: think he bought Jo to the table and we met
Speaker 2: J Rowd.
Speaker 3: That's what.
Speaker 2: That's what the King T's and the you know mixed
Speaker 2: Matter of Space DJ Pools and we started you know,
Speaker 2: running with them, and it just turned into were just
Speaker 2: part of the you know we Telor wanted to do
Speaker 2: a Taylor's King T by the way, he wanted to
Speaker 2: do like a posse thing like he was.
Speaker 1: He had an album coming out and.
Speaker 2: Instead of That's why I always say We're forever grateful
Speaker 2: Tuning because instead of putting out his single as just
Speaker 2: King T and everything, he said, nah, I got this
Speaker 2: group called the Alcoholics.
Speaker 1: I want to put them on.
Speaker 2: So his first single on the Active Full album or
Speaker 2: the Trifling album, he featured the Alcoholics. And really that's
Speaker 2: how we got our start and never looked back, and.
Speaker 3: Never looked back. Where year was that? What youre was
Speaker 3: the King T? Well, I guess you would have to
Speaker 3: do a lot of drunken DISCREMT.
Speaker 1: No, we started, we started runing with King T.
Speaker 2: The first time I really kicked it with him was
Speaker 2: the act of full videos at the liquor Store.
Speaker 1: I'm in that motherfucker somewhere. It says I got to
Speaker 1: look back.
Speaker 2: But from that point on and then East Swift got
Speaker 2: hired on a random He was already DJing for Me
Speaker 2: and Jro. Me and Jael had a demo you know
Speaker 2: this and that, and King T had a DJ named
Speaker 2: Keith Cooley.
Speaker 3: I know you've rather the name Keith Cooley.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she shot out on the thing. And I don't
Speaker 1: know what happened with Keith Cooley.
Speaker 2: But the night before Teeler was going on tour with
Speaker 2: n W A Scarface, I mean n W A Ghetto
Speaker 2: Boys and all this, something happened with Keith Cooley.
Speaker 3: With Tiler needed to DJ, and Swift.
Speaker 2: Just happened to be over there cutting his head because
Speaker 2: Swift he good on the cuts, but he cuts, you know,
Speaker 2: so he he basically was cutting King T's hair. It's
Speaker 2: God's work and shit, Tiler needed the DJ right then,
Speaker 2: so he Swift went to go cut.
Speaker 3: King T's hair, came back with a DJ and job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he packed his ship up because I was
Speaker 2: living with Swift and it's pops and ship at the time,
Speaker 2: and so he packed his shit up and went on
Speaker 2: the road with King T and never looked back.
Speaker 3: You know, that is amazing. So when I was a kid.
Speaker 3: My best friend's name is rams. It's Rockers little brother
Speaker 3: from Dilated. I know, I know, yes, So listen. So
Speaker 3: Ramses came to LA when he was sixteen seventeen. I'm
Speaker 3: like twelve. So he's died brother too, yeah, like baby
Speaker 3: and buddy and everybody. So yeah, so listen. So he
Speaker 3: comes back from LA and he's like, Yo, my brother's
Speaker 3: in this rapt because you know, Rock's dad is Pope,
Speaker 3: had a lot of children, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So he comes he comes back from this trip to
Speaker 3: beat his brother and shit. And then he's telling me
Speaker 3: and he's like, bro, I was hanging out with the
Speaker 3: exhibiting alcoholics and and did one of y'all have an iraq?
Speaker 1: Yeah? He's like I had a gold thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So so I'm hearing all this shit and not at
Speaker 3: the time, I'm like twelve years old, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And uh. And so that's when I got
Speaker 3: like exposed to like the liquor cruit thing, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And then I met Raka like right
Speaker 3: when the platform dropped. Wow. And then when an expansion
Speaker 3: team came out, we took a road trip out here
Speaker 3: and we went to like uh Fat Beats, and we
Speaker 3: went to the I'm Released party and it was just
Speaker 3: but but I got so like I was like entrenched
Speaker 3: and being like a fan of like y'all exhibit and
Speaker 3: obviously Dilated and all that ship and yeah. So it's
Speaker 3: like it's crazy because you because Liquid Crew has so
Speaker 3: much to do with like so much amazing parts of
Speaker 3: like la hip hop. You know what I'm saying. Between
Speaker 3: you guys obviously King T the Architect and the Far Eye,
Speaker 3: and you know, I feel like Dilate is kind of
Speaker 3: like quasi Liquid Crew. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They I don't know if there was a liquor Crew,
Speaker 1: but they be everywhere.
Speaker 3: Like you open up that Focused Daily booklet, you see
Speaker 3: evidence in there with a lot of hair and rockets
Speaker 3: in there. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I still keep a tune with EV all the time
Speaker 2: and we're working on something actually. But I'm just proud
Speaker 2: of them, you know what I'm saying, because we all
Speaker 2: kind of started together, right and I see what V
Speaker 2: went well, RockA went with, the group went with this
Speaker 2: and that, and you know it's it's amazing. I like
Speaker 2: to watch It's like watching a plant grow. It takes
Speaker 2: some time. But as you see it, you know, and
Speaker 2: I just think that like EB is underrated man, oh
Speaker 2: my god.
Speaker 3: For sure. It's almost like he hates being Like Evidence
Speaker 3: is such a talented guy. He would prefer to just
Speaker 3: make music and no one knew who the fuck he
Speaker 3: is exactly.
Speaker 2: Like that's what it is, like he he's like an
Speaker 2: introvert for sure, you know, talented.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Alchemist too, it.
Speaker 3: Was yeah, man, shout out my favorite producers right now
Speaker 3: for sure. So, uh, you guys, how at what point
Speaker 3: in time? Because signing Aloud in nineteen ninety three is very,
Speaker 3: very very early. That's pre wou Tang.
Speaker 2: That's why I might think were the first group, but
Speaker 2: technically we not, though who is uh let me see?
Speaker 2: Uh it was a group called mad Cap okay, okay,
Speaker 2: drop the album before we did, and then they signed
Speaker 2: Twisted and Twisted what happy with his contact?
Speaker 1: He said, fuck this shit, he did his own thing,
Speaker 1: so we can't.
Speaker 3: Right after that, So that's crazy ninety three. That's like
Speaker 3: that's like ground floor loud record shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I still talked to Steve. You know
Speaker 2: a lot of loud records in the house last night.
Speaker 2: There was was there in case. I know, we went
Speaker 2: to the exhibits album release party last night. He was
Speaker 2: it was text but what.
Speaker 1: Was I saying?
Speaker 2: All the like it was a whole Loud section there
Speaker 2: was Yeah, so no shout out, Noah, Oti Arlene, a
Speaker 2: bunch of people from Loud.
Speaker 3: Like so, you guys like it's crazy because we think
Speaker 3: of Loud as like such a East Coast label and
Speaker 3: of course, like obviously in spirit it is and you know, tang,
Speaker 3: big pun, et cetera, et cetera. But you're one of
Speaker 3: the first groups exhibit is you know, at the speed
Speaker 3: of life, restless, forty days, forty nights. What what How
Speaker 3: did you guys end up getting like Steve Steve's attention
Speaker 3: and like like was that something where he was like
Speaker 3: out out west looking for talent or about us? Yeah,
Speaker 3: let me get this story straight too.
Speaker 1: Basically it was a guy about the name of Fabi
Speaker 1: and Dub.
Speaker 2: We called him Fade and he was real close with
Speaker 2: Swift us you know this, and that he's a love
Speaker 2: war ship.
Speaker 1: We to make these demos and you know, me and
Speaker 1: Je was the flood, the l a underground seeing.
Speaker 2: Swift was a DJ. He was a popular DJ. He
Speaker 2: was getting booked for like colleges us. We're young though,
Speaker 2: So basically we went to mad Cap was already on Loud,
Speaker 2: and we went to a studio session in Pasadenas somewhere,
Speaker 2: and during that studio session we played Fade the demo
Speaker 2: and he was like Steve Ripkins right hand man at
Speaker 2: the time. Actually, first he got us to deal with
Speaker 2: He got us a deal with Freeway Rick. Yes, Freeway
Speaker 2: Rick not Rick Wall.
Speaker 3: Was the one who interviewed I've interviewed Freeway Rick Ross too.
Speaker 3: I just saw him at Snoop Savanthia the other night,
Speaker 3: no big extras event. But yeah, so you guys actually
Speaker 3: had to deal with Freeway Cross first.
Speaker 2: If you look on Drink Champs and all the rest
Speaker 2: of the podcasts that he do, he alway shout us out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just close to the alcoholics.
Speaker 2: But what happened was he got locked up right you know,
Speaker 2: during this time, and he called from prison and he
Speaker 2: heard through the grapevine and we had some something else
Speaker 2: going on with this Loud record label or something like that.
Speaker 2: It was his blessing. He said, man, go get it.
Speaker 2: I don't want to nothe just just take it to
Speaker 2: the top. You know, and this and that, and but
Speaker 2: then he ended up getting out this and that, so
Speaker 2: you know, shout out freeway with man. I just see
Speaker 2: him in Vegas about I don't know how long ago,
Speaker 2: but you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know he had told me he was
Speaker 3: doing he was doing some like back behind the scenes
Speaker 3: financing on some big artists too, like I think you
Speaker 3: need a baker, like a lot of.
Speaker 2: Real like he always got his hands in something. He
Speaker 2: was selling his book. Well that what I said, taking
Speaker 2: me a free book.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a hustler, bro, that's evident. But no, but yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean obviously, I mean he's known for that. They
Speaker 3: kind of stole his life story and did the TV
Speaker 3: show great show, by the way, a great show. You
Speaker 3: guys end up with loud. At what point in time
Speaker 3: does exhibit come into the fold, And obviously you guys
Speaker 3: had to have kind of made that introduction. I'm assuming because.
Speaker 2: I think I don't remember the how you can I
Speaker 2: remember that the Ziba was a he was aggressive, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And every time I have seen we want.
Speaker 2: Some MC ship and Ziba used to get down like
Speaker 2: he really like he he looked like that, but he
Speaker 2: had like this path he had like a he was
Speaker 2: smarter than a lot of people, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like he already knew what he wanted. We freestyle of life,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like we get picked up
Speaker 2: by a label, that's cool.
Speaker 1: If not, we're gonna do this. Unlet's see what happens
Speaker 1: with this.
Speaker 3: And that's a crazy statement. We freestyle of life. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I like that. Here we are, it's worked out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know Zif he we we we were
Speaker 2: just hanging around the underground circles and we all just
Speaker 2: saw some MENI like and this and that, and he started,
Speaker 2: you know, really hanging around with us. We start going
Speaker 2: up to you know, Friday night flavors and all these
Speaker 2: different things serving on them, and then we've got the
Speaker 2: serving people in the clubs and it was just.
Speaker 3: That when you used to like see rappers like rapping outside.
Speaker 2: Once he became the yes zhibit man, he was like
Speaker 2: he he I never seen nobody with a with a
Speaker 2: determination is out the world for this, Like like he
Speaker 2: knew he knew all this ship the ZIPB is doing
Speaker 2: now he told us he was going to do this.
Speaker 1: Then that was his plan.
Speaker 2: Like we didn't have no plan and shout out to
Speaker 2: his dad too was a big part of that too,
Speaker 2: because he got a guidance with the military, upbringing and
Speaker 2: stuff like that. Destructure I ain't never had no structure
Speaker 2: like that. My dad got murdered when I was young,
Speaker 2: you know, so I kind of been freestyle in that life,
Speaker 2: you know, freestyle of life ever since. But shout out
Speaker 2: Exhibit His album came out yesterday.
Speaker 3: It's incredible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we went to the ship.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm in my fifties, but man, we hit three
Speaker 2: parties last night. Man, we went to Exhibits first, then
Speaker 2: we went to Snoop Dogg party, and then we went
Speaker 2: to the Busy.
Speaker 1: I'm tripping. That's the day before yesterday.
Speaker 3: That's all.
Speaker 2: You ain't been asleep, But I say we were the
Speaker 2: three live ass parties in one night.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because Exhibited two Things did one of
Speaker 3: the night before, and then Snoop did yeah.
Speaker 1: Night before we went to Zibit Things. We went to
Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg Things.
Speaker 2: Shout out snow Too returned my text snope and I
Speaker 2: saw y'all say what up?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so and then.
Speaker 2: We went to uh the Far Side and the hieroglyphic.
Speaker 2: I mean the Souls of Mischief went platinum the same week,
Speaker 2: like two weeks ago.
Speaker 3: Oh shit, so they had a big party for them.
Speaker 2: Shout out shinne swoops, rise casts will I am.
Speaker 3: That's crazy. I didn't know that that was it. I
Speaker 3: would have went to that party too, funck shout to
Speaker 3: the far side and hiro.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's say that's how the shit be tripping me out, Like,
Speaker 2: how y'all go platinum the same week thirty years later?
Speaker 2: I thought it passing me by ben platinum long time ago.
Speaker 3: But you know what it is, a lot of those
Speaker 3: like older records, they're probably technically platinum in gold. It's
Speaker 3: the label they have to like there's some sort of
Speaker 3: like where the label has to reach out to oria
Speaker 3: A to make sure it's certified. That like because my
Speaker 3: homie had a record, they're actually up on the wall
Speaker 3: over there. They're both gold and like they were gold
Speaker 3: forever and uh, but he was waiting on his label
Speaker 3: to like, I don't know, make get a certified or whatever.
Speaker 3: But yeah, like passing me by should be fucking platinum,
Speaker 3: Like what are we talking about?
Speaker 2: While I was assuming and then on top of that,
Speaker 2: it's like like like how do you judge, Like, how
Speaker 2: do you like there's no more physical copies, So if
Speaker 2: you sold eight hundred thousand physical copies, what are they
Speaker 2: selling now to make.
Speaker 3: Yeah that I don't there's a certain amount of streams
Speaker 3: that equal and album sale. I want to say it's
Speaker 3: I want to say it's fifteen hundred strings equals on album.
Speaker 1: Sale fifteen other strange.
Speaker 3: I don't want to be don't put that in black
Speaker 3: and white, but I think it's something like that.
Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. But anyway, we need to take our shit back.
Speaker 2: That's what I say.
Speaker 3: That's why it's like, you know, like the direct to
Speaker 3: fan ship is making a comeback. You know where it's
Speaker 3: like if you got a fan base, like fuck the platforms,
Speaker 3: Like obviously you want your ship up for everybody, but
Speaker 3: you want to be able to like have that direct
Speaker 3: connection to fans where they spend money with you.
Speaker 2: You don't you have to be doing right now? We
Speaker 2: ask that right now. I got a whole independent thing
Speaker 2: going on. Did you hear the record?
Speaker 3: Yes? I love the video by the way, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: did a great job.
Speaker 2: Shot out to Nate, Nate the great bag God, my
Speaker 2: husband and wife.
Speaker 3: That's what I appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, I mean you're back,
Speaker 3: man said, I see you running around.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to, you know, get back into Google because,
Speaker 2: like I said, I took a little hiatus just to
Speaker 2: get my shit together, you know, sober holic, Yeah, smokaholic, smokaholics.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, but no, it's crazy because like I you know, uh,
Speaker 3: I think back to like your your like uh when
Speaker 3: I think atash bro used to be like a superhero
Speaker 3: to me, dog like he used to be with it
Speaker 3: now like for like Wrap Life is one of the
Speaker 3: most fucking and it's a perfect album. It's a fucking classic.
Speaker 3: It's it's one of them ones man. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 3: slept on like for people who don't know, like go
Speaker 3: fucking go run and get tash rap Life. That ship
Speaker 3: is from track one to the end. It is amazing.
Speaker 2: Ple check that man shout out the same mooning Malik Levy,
Speaker 2: Steve Riskin, Rich, Isaacson.
Speaker 3: What because that came after Liquidation, right, because Liquidation came
Speaker 3: out and then at the time table Okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: it came out after Liquidation.
Speaker 1: It came out after yeah, yeah, yeah, because I.
Speaker 3: Want to say rap Life was ninety nine. It was yeah,
Speaker 3: so you do that.
Speaker 1: I got a song called smoke Fest ninety nine on it.
Speaker 1: Cast shout, I was gonna say without cast I was
Speaker 1: looking right there.
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, sir? What what what was the thought process
Speaker 3: you guys? Drop Liquidation? Uh? Hip Hop Drunkies was a
Speaker 3: big record for you guys? Shout at what I want
Speaker 3: to get into that too? What what what motivated you
Speaker 3: to say I gotta I gotta get a solo one off?
Speaker 2: I mean to tell you the two we started out
Speaker 2: as solo artists as before, right, I met Jo and
Speaker 2: everything and the funny Boy bout me and j was
Speaker 2: never supposed to do out group, but none of thee
Speaker 2: It was like Task.
Speaker 3: Was over here, j Row was over here. We have
Speaker 3: other people's crew.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a crew. And then we made a demo.
Speaker 2: Called I Guess Funky, and we did one called Past
Speaker 2: the Joint And I had to be like eighty eight
Speaker 2: eighty nine or something like this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, are old? I was born in eighty seven?
Speaker 1: Are you serious? God? Damn, that's where the baby face
Speaker 1: come from. Then?
Speaker 2: All right, well but anyway, we did this demo tape.
Speaker 2: Oh no, actually we did a song called I Guess
Speaker 2: Funky and we used the Roger like the the sample
Speaker 2: from Rogers Zapp and Roger. People went crazy for the song,
Speaker 2: so they said, may y'all got to do more.
Speaker 1: So we did a couple. We did one called Past
Speaker 1: the Joints.
Speaker 2: So we was ahead of the curve before all the weed,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, like, uh, past the joint
Speaker 2: And then it was unanimous, like everybody was like, y'all
Speaker 2: sound so different that y'all should do more shit together
Speaker 2: because it's like, you know, when you hear groups and
Speaker 2: ship like that's in effects and a lot of groups
Speaker 2: they rapped, you can tell they have the same day
Speaker 2: in the group because they rapped similar you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like EPM D. You know, of course, so
Speaker 2: j Row style and my style was like ying and
Speaker 2: yang night and day or whatever whatever, So you know,
Speaker 2: I think that's what made people pay attention to it.
Speaker 3: Kind of yeah, you know, rap life was like, uh man,
Speaker 3: just stellar, stellar body of work.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: Actually, Steve Ripkins Pops Jewels had a lot to do
Speaker 2: with that too. A word Western piece, Yes, you know,
Speaker 2: that's who got me over there. On Sony You all this,
Speaker 2: but Rap Life was like a I was trying to
Speaker 2: do something I was trying to do. I had a
Speaker 2: concept for the album because, like you said, everybody thought
Speaker 2: it was from New York and so what I wanted
Speaker 2: to do was show people that we cool with New
Speaker 2: Yorkers and we got a style from the West Coast
Speaker 2: that they love over there.
Speaker 3: So I was trying to unify this city or whatever.
Speaker 3: R right, Well, ray Ward was on the album, you right.
Speaker 2: If We started out with a lot of the alcoholic
Speaker 2: wool tang mob d of course Big One, so we
Speaker 2: we we're cool with all these new and they got
Speaker 2: an LA office, so we used to be up there
Speaker 2: every day. You know what I'm saying. But what was
Speaker 2: I saying that was that was the beauty of it.
Speaker 2: It was like we had this East Coast, you know,
Speaker 2: international love and everything. They ain't really like gangster rapper
Speaker 2: kind of pigeonhole for LA, Like this is what LA
Speaker 2: sounds like.
Speaker 3: No, for sure, you guys had your own thing going.
Speaker 2: Each Swift on the beach, Yes, and then with Rap
Speaker 2: Life and everything. What I tried to do was I
Speaker 2: wanted to come with a single myself. This one song,
Speaker 2: remember the song on there when I with the actually
Speaker 2: Doctor Dan and the exhibit and ended up using it.
Speaker 2: But I have one first, but the Dunk Dune d D.
Speaker 2: I had a song that was about to be my single,
Speaker 2: and then I don't know how it happened, but rock
Speaker 2: Wiler that we with Redman and them did the beat.
Speaker 2: So we had it all set up for me that
Speaker 2: to be my single, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: Snooping and dropped the.
Speaker 3: Dre dropped the same.
Speaker 1: Champel was like, hold up time, we can't do this.
Speaker 2: So we had to go back to the drawing board
Speaker 2: and I said, let's do the one with Ray Kuan.
Speaker 2: And what the plan was. I was gonna come up
Speaker 2: with the song with Ray Kuan, let him know that
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: We the song is actually called rap like it's called
Speaker 3: rap Life.
Speaker 2: And then I wanted to come right back with the
Speaker 2: song I did with Snooping them Snoop, I mean snoop zip.
Speaker 2: I did a song called Jesus G's with Me Snoop
Speaker 2: corrupt zibit. And I'm trying to sew you know that
Speaker 2: that I get down with anybody, you know, no matter
Speaker 2: who it is, and that said backfire. Once I did that,
Speaker 2: everyone I dropped this ta with Ray Kuan. Everybody's thinking
Speaker 2: I'm from New York for some reason, even though I
Speaker 2: filmed it right here Inglewood.
Speaker 1: That the race track is crazy, got.
Speaker 2: Dayton's and all kinds of la sitting there, they still
Speaker 2: say he wants me from New York. So I don't
Speaker 2: know what they had to do with anything else, but
Speaker 2: I got that stamp a long time ago.
Speaker 3: What you guys have been on some legendary tours you
Speaker 3: mentioned obviously to him with Big Right. I remember you
Speaker 3: guys to Wutang too right, Yeah Tang? And what was
Speaker 3: the other it was? Who else was on that tour
Speaker 3: that was just allowed?
Speaker 2: When it was on the first tour with Wo saying
Speaker 2: I was a promotional tour And imagine like you got
Speaker 2: twelve like I saw.
Speaker 3: You guys did like a huge festival. I feel like
Speaker 3: that was like.
Speaker 1: We do a lot of shit that people don't. It
Speaker 1: goes under the radar. I don't know why.
Speaker 3: What was it like though, you're the West Coast group,
Speaker 3: but you're touring with Big Right. This is after Ready
Speaker 3: to Die.
Speaker 2: Yes, First of all, House Biggie, he only had two
Speaker 2: albums First of all, what's that like, Biggie.
Speaker 1: That's why, man, when all the.
Speaker 2: Static and the beef and all the East West shit
Speaker 2: and all that shit, you gotta understand that we don't
Speaker 2: build like long lasting relationships with people from the East
Speaker 2: before that. So we wasn't we wasn't about to just
Speaker 2: jump in because really I knew that it was not
Speaker 2: true about the Biggie setting up Pock and all that.
Speaker 2: We know that was bullshit off the rip. So we
Speaker 2: just you know, basically, we just played, you know, I
Speaker 2: played the fence. We just played the background when it
Speaker 2: was jumping. Because they asked us to go on this
Speaker 2: tour and they hand picked us, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So they got love for the West Coast, but I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't get another people's politics and shit like that.
Speaker 2: But it was weird because it was the only West
Speaker 2: Coast group on the tour.
Speaker 3: How as big as a dude though, man.
Speaker 2: Like hilarious, man like you know, like he was the
Speaker 2: biggest King T fan. He used to tell us every
Speaker 2: day like like where's King T.
Speaker 1: I'll come in here with you. I forgot why wasn't on
Speaker 1: the tour.
Speaker 2: But Biggie was like reciting his lyrics every day like
Speaker 2: he was like a super duper you know, king t fan.
Speaker 3: You know, did he ever try to hang with you
Speaker 3: guys when they came to drinking?
Speaker 2: Nah, he knew better than that. But he's a smoke
Speaker 2: a lot. I see, he wasn't known as a drinker.
Speaker 2: He smoked, and back then I wasn't really smoking that much,
Speaker 2: so I'd be high drunk.
Speaker 1: You know. We got a lot of tours like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then uh, you guys obviously have
Speaker 3: such a great relationship and working relationship with Woo. I
Speaker 3: know y'all kind of helped helped get them on the
Speaker 3: on the radar alloud and ship od Uh. I feel
Speaker 3: like was kind of like I feel like he was
Speaker 3: like your spirit animal, Like when like in a weird
Speaker 3: like reverse universe, ODB and Tash on a record could
Speaker 3: have been the same person, Like you guys have like
Speaker 3: a very unique style of rapping and like very like
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like that's so well, what
Speaker 3: was what was it like? Just just just being being
Speaker 3: close with a guy like ODB man Like he was.
Speaker 2: Just like a different breed of person, like he just
Speaker 2: how do you say it? Like he he lived free,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, until he got locked up,
Speaker 2: But he was free as a bird. He just did
Speaker 2: what he wanted to, said what he wanted to, you know,
Speaker 2: like anything else. When you when you when you get
Speaker 2: a toxicated and you get too intoxicated, it starts to
Speaker 2: be a problem. You know what I'm saying, And this
Speaker 2: and that. But as far as him as a spirit
Speaker 2: and as far as his his character and his values
Speaker 2: and morals and ship like that, he's you can't beat
Speaker 2: the odb man. And it's sad how things played out. Damn,
Speaker 2: you got me thinking, Man, I won't know what to say,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? He was just wonderful kind man,
Speaker 2: one of the kind.
Speaker 3: Any crazy road stories with Wu Tang.
Speaker 2: See that's why I was like, I can't do that
Speaker 2: Wolf Tang in general. Just I mean ship, everybody does that.
Speaker 2: I have said these allion times like the ones and ship.
Speaker 2: But ah, man, I remember one time and me and
Speaker 2: Meph we said we weren't gonna tell. As a matter
Speaker 2: of fact, I can't even tell this story. Put it
Speaker 2: this way, mefing man got hands. He beat up a pimp.
Speaker 2: One time he beat up a pimp.
Speaker 1: That's how I can't say that, you.
Speaker 3: Know, because I don't know what nigga situations is.
Speaker 2: That's how you get sucked up with mother talking though
Speaker 2: you today he's supposed to be talking. But we had
Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of great times with Wolf
Speaker 2: Tang and ship like that. We all married with children now,
Speaker 2: so I can't tell you that.
Speaker 3: All you gotta know is Mathew Man beat up a
Speaker 3: pimp road.
Speaker 2: Yeah, see met the man got hands in the circumstances
Speaker 2: in which every reason too. Man, if I told you
Speaker 2: the circus, that's why meth said, don't ever tell nobody
Speaker 2: this story and ship.
Speaker 3: But I heard him tell the motherfucker somewhere. Oh he
Speaker 3: told it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he ain't give me permission too, So that's it.
Speaker 1: He married. I mean, not gonna see I'm talking too much.
Speaker 1: Shot to anyway, shout out the meth Man.
Speaker 2: All like I say is just like we was there
Speaker 2: and just like I said, watching a plant grow and
Speaker 2: everything like when we went on that first promotional tour,
Speaker 2: I didn't see the shit working like it, did, You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Because you got ten people with
Speaker 2: different personalities hoosters, you know what I'm saying, They're not
Speaker 2: used to a promotional tour that we don't get paid for.
Speaker 1: This were just promoted for.
Speaker 2: Loud recording, the albums coming out and this, and so
Speaker 2: it just led to a whole bunch of just.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean we got a little bit of like
Speaker 3: that what's that documentary that came out the show? Remember
Speaker 3: the show Big was in it. But you kind of
Speaker 3: saw a little bit. I mean, when you have like
Speaker 3: you said, when you got ten people, nine people, whatever
Speaker 3: it is, it's like there's just no way that there's
Speaker 3: not going to be like shit going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then a lot of times that everybody got
Speaker 2: their own life. So people, you know, it'll be eight
Speaker 2: of them and then two of them's at home doing right.
Speaker 2: I just to trip off Ghosts man, ghosts, peoples and ship.
Speaker 2: But ghost was like intriguing to me because it's the
Speaker 2: way the map this back when he used to way
Speaker 2: the math everywhere and sit like that. I was like this,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I was just looking like
Speaker 2: they different. They got it, man, they got it.
Speaker 3: So you were on the first promo run where you
Speaker 3: guys are are you guys pushing coast to coast or
Speaker 3: twenty one and over with with them at that time.
Speaker 3: Twenty one.
Speaker 2: Now we're pushing we're pushing twenty one over. I don't
Speaker 2: know if it came out yet, but I know Make
Speaker 2: Room is the Lick Baby, Yeah, that was out, and
Speaker 2: then then they're pushing Meta Man and Protect your Neck,
Speaker 2: got it. So it's before the first albums came out.
Speaker 3: Damn. That's crazy, dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it would just be like like like everybody
Speaker 2: knew that Wu Tang was going to do something, but
Speaker 2: I didn't know it was gonna be.
Speaker 1: The biggest group to ever like this cultural klys I did.
Speaker 3: They got their own Nikes and there's a Wu Tang
Speaker 3: video game.
Speaker 1: Incredible man, Hit Kwan. Everybody had their own nicks.
Speaker 2: It was interesting, you know what I'm saying, Like having
Speaker 2: all these personalities all different, you know what I mean, who.
Speaker 3: Did you bond with the most on the road? Who
Speaker 3: did y'all have like the most, like the biggest bond
Speaker 3: with out hanging when you guys are on that run.
Speaker 2: Back then, I probably say I just wanted to probably
Speaker 2: O dB yeah after wow, you know, but but we
Speaker 2: all bill we pours with all of them, like Ray Kwan,
Speaker 2: that's my boy, shout out the way Meth, Me and
Speaker 2: Meth was club Matthews to get out of bitches, though,
Speaker 2: like for some reason he was like the flys and
Speaker 2: ship like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean like that's kind of like you know
Speaker 3: he was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody wanted Meth.
Speaker 2: But that's what's up though, But but I got my
Speaker 2: own story with all of them for sure.
Speaker 3: Was yo was h shout out to uh On. You
Speaker 3: mentioned the song a little bit earlier on Rap Life.
Speaker 3: You had Outcasts on Smoke Fast ninety nine trying to
Speaker 3: fill the agony to what if that's it is a
Speaker 3: crazy like just to think back, like you had ray
Speaker 3: Corn on that motherfucking album Outcast. Did you an outcast
Speaker 3: have like already like a relationship or was it something
Speaker 3: where you were like, ya, I'm working on an album. I
Speaker 3: want to get outcast to reach out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like like rest in peace to reco away everything.
Speaker 1: But he used to like this back before, like the
Speaker 1: smartphones and all this shit and everything. But he just
Speaker 1: show me so much love. He's like, anytime you come
Speaker 1: to Atlanta.
Speaker 3: Organized noise man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this is back when the Freaknick Remember the
Speaker 1: freak Nick I listen.
Speaker 3: I was born in nineteen eighty seven. I've only heard
Speaker 3: about that.
Speaker 1: Okay, damn, I keep forgetting you.
Speaker 3: But of course, of course I know what the Freaknick is.
Speaker 2: Yes, but I used to go out there Atlanta and
Speaker 2: funk with them during that them times and shit, and
Speaker 2: they just open their doors to us.
Speaker 3: And you know what was the freaknick?
Speaker 1: Like, oh man, it was freaky. It was like before
Speaker 1: social media.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: A trip because it was like not I'm gonna say lawless,
Speaker 2: not lawless as far as crimes and shit, let that go.
Speaker 2: But it's like the whole city got took over by that.
Speaker 3: There's just no rules.
Speaker 2: Yeah by this this this, this freaknik shit. It was
Speaker 2: just cracking everywhere you went in Atlanta. It was crazy.
Speaker 2: I got thrown it. I went a couple of years
Speaker 2: in the whole and one one year I got thrown
Speaker 2: in jail right when I got off the plane. And
Speaker 2: why to listen to Freaknick through.
Speaker 3: The like they're waiting for you.
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened.
Speaker 2: Was somewhere and the next thing I know him in
Speaker 2: jail and you could kind of see like they had
Speaker 2: these little windows of the jail everybody taking turns looking
Speaker 2: at it. Because the freaknick was going on right outside
Speaker 2: of the jail.
Speaker 3: They lied me up for the.
Speaker 1: Weekend and ship until you missed out that one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that was just one of the mini.
Speaker 3: I know you're working on you just like you said,
Speaker 3: you just dropped the new song, sir, you are you
Speaker 3: working on a new album? Are you? What do you?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, actually I got a bunch of albums worth
Speaker 2: shit ready to go and everything. I'm just looking for
Speaker 2: the right the right situation, I guess, you know. So
Speaker 2: I dropped this song right here. It took legs of
Speaker 2: I mean groo legs of his own. It's called Attention
Speaker 2: as a Drug and if you hear it, we we
Speaker 2: sampled a sample that try call Quest used before. Right,
Speaker 2: So with that being said, it's only right for the
Speaker 2: remix and shit I had to do, you know, get
Speaker 2: somebody from Tried, So I got q Tip on the remix,
Speaker 2: I got Exhibit on the remix, I got King T
Speaker 2: and the Licks on the remix, Dang the Far Why,
Speaker 2: and I got Sway in the Morning doing the intro
Speaker 2: at the intro and everything.
Speaker 3: So everybody that heard said it is about to be.
Speaker 1: The song of the summer.
Speaker 3: So you got the Far on there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Far is on it too. He set it off.
Speaker 3: Man. Focused Daily is such a great album. You guys
Speaker 3: should do, Like I feel like there should be like
Speaker 3: a uh we never got a Liquid Crew album. You
Speaker 3: guys should come together and just be like, hey.
Speaker 1: That's my bucket list. Man, it's hard to get.
Speaker 3: Did y'all ever like even kick the idea around of
Speaker 3: like doing like a compilation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did, and I think that it's still gonna happen.
Speaker 2: But I just think that everybody that was a vested
Speaker 2: initially because you have understand like Madly was in the
Speaker 2: Liquor Cool he went on the dude, you know, mad
Speaker 2: living shit, he out of here multi and shut out
Speaker 2: the map.
Speaker 3: By the way, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: You don't know that.
Speaker 3: When I think of the Liquid Crew, I think, if
Speaker 3: you guys king t X, we took.
Speaker 1: Him on the fuck we went. We went on the
Speaker 1: Warp Tour.
Speaker 2: We took That's crazy, by the way, we took the
Speaker 2: Liquor Cool with Is, We took Exhibit we took Mad Live,
Speaker 2: the Farwide, filled the Agony Recipes, Beef and Dontrell.
Speaker 1: We took all these people and they just ended up
Speaker 1: being superstars.
Speaker 3: Mad It's crazy, one of the most prolific.
Speaker 1: That's what they It's crazy.
Speaker 3: I was there.
Speaker 2: That's another one. I was there when he was just
Speaker 2: getting his feet wet in the thing shout out to
Speaker 2: his brother.
Speaker 3: Oh no too, Yeah, Oh that was incredible. Man? Were
Speaker 3: you like? Was his beat always like super unique? Alway?
Speaker 2: When I met him, That's what happened, like Jack. I
Speaker 2: met Jack first, and he gave me a demo of
Speaker 2: the loop Pack. I think it was a loop packed demo.
Speaker 2: I know they was thinking about. I don't know if
Speaker 2: there's just something independent before that, but I remember when
Speaker 2: I heard it, excuse me, mad Lib mad lists production
Speaker 2: reminded me of e Swift, like it had that that
Speaker 2: sounds like.
Speaker 1: Something something producers and ship like.
Speaker 2: If you hear that beat, you could tell that damn
Speaker 2: before you even know who did the beat. And that's
Speaker 2: what Mad lived. It struck me as a like a
Speaker 2: DJ put like he got something different. So I just
Speaker 2: drive the ox now daily and you know, pick him
Speaker 2: up bring run he Mad. I mean, uh, Mad live,
Speaker 2: believe it or not dead? A couple did they say
Speaker 2: twenty one and Over is our classic album?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: People don't know that Mad Lift did a couple of
Speaker 2: joints on there Make Mary Jane, He's Smoke the song,
Speaker 2: turned the Party out, a couple other ones, and then
Speaker 2: he did a lot on the second album, Too Coast
Speaker 2: to Coast right album, but out of the madd we
Speaker 2: just did a benefit concert because he fire relief concert
Speaker 2: and everything for him a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 3: Man, I just you know, obviously there's things that you
Speaker 3: can replace, you know, and then there's things you can't replace. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's a that's the fact, which is rough. I can
Speaker 3: just imagine all the music you know that he had
Speaker 3: had just on hard.
Speaker 2: Drives and yeah, he he just he's just a talented dude.
Speaker 3: Man. Like, Yeah, I met I met him a couple
Speaker 3: of times with Freddy and uh, I just you know,
Speaker 3: I feel like he's like a I feel like he's
Speaker 3: like an enigma, you know what I'm saying. Like he's
Speaker 3: like he's like he's like a like a shadow. It's
Speaker 3: got an aura, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And he don't pick up the phone. But nobody was
Speaker 1: like the Wizard of Oz or something, right, right, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy. They said that he did like all
Speaker 3: the beats for a bandana on a fucking iPad, And
Speaker 3: I was like, I believe it because that fools just
Speaker 3: so crazy, Like it's not about the tools.
Speaker 1: He's an amazing motherfucker. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy man for you. Uh I always you know,
Speaker 3: I feel like when we talk about West Coast hip
Speaker 3: hop the era of and you guys were a little
Speaker 3: bit more commercial than what I'm about to make it.
Speaker 3: But there was like this kind of like this underground
Speaker 3: l a movement that was that that that got a
Speaker 3: lot of people signed the major labels.
Speaker 1: Good Life and all that.
Speaker 3: I'm obviously like guys like yourself, like the Dilated Ship
Speaker 3: like you mentioned Luke Pac. Obviously there's then there was
Speaker 3: like J five and there.
Speaker 1: Was Michael nine.
Speaker 3: Yeah you know yeah, Freestyle Fellowship, Planet Asia, fucking Roscoe.
Speaker 1: How do you know about this eighty seven?
Speaker 3: Because I'm telling you, I'm a fucking hip hop head. Bro.
Speaker 3: I came when I was thirteen. I came out here
Speaker 3: and hung out at Fat Beats with record Iris.
Speaker 2: We need more than him man. The seventh, like the
Speaker 2: shit you talking about it? That happened like two years.
Speaker 1: After he was born. Yeah, actually doing he was born.
Speaker 3: But but no, but it's it's crazy because like there's
Speaker 3: like this there's this huge like scene in LA where
Speaker 3: it was like just a lot of dope, backpack boom
Speaker 3: back ill rap ship that wasn't gangster rap exactly right,
Speaker 3: but it didn't mean that you got like you guys
Speaker 3: are on Loud, the far was on Capital or delicious. Fine,
Speaker 3: who did the what what did it focus did? Oh,
Speaker 3: Tommy boy, Tommy Boy, you know, Dilators on fucking Capitol Records.
Speaker 3: J five is fucking J five man, so Charlie Tuna
Speaker 3: and all those guys.
Speaker 1: And this was the from my albums A Beat, a Killed.
Speaker 3: Man, Shot a Kill shout out to Cut Chemists, New Mark.
Speaker 3: But there was like this huge just like other side
Speaker 3: of what what you know, LA hip hop was that
Speaker 3: I feel like, for whatever reason, like fast forward to today,
Speaker 3: like I feel like it doesn't get talked about it enough,
Speaker 3: doesn't get enough love, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 3: feel like it was so important though, and it was
Speaker 3: like there's so much good music, so many incredible artists
Speaker 3: that came out of that era. Do you do you
Speaker 3: feel like that that kind of scene in LA gets
Speaker 3: the flowers it deserves.
Speaker 1: And today I got a soul coming out.
Speaker 2: It's it's not a podcast, it's actual so yeah that
Speaker 2: it kind of addresses that it's called underrated and what
Speaker 2: it is is like it's basically so I created that.
Speaker 3: Basically, I just.
Speaker 1: Wanted to put the sign on anything underrated don't have
Speaker 1: to be music. They don't have to be rappers and
Speaker 1: singers and this that it could be a you name
Speaker 1: it restaurant, right that everybody lines up around the corner,
Speaker 1: but a lot of people don't even know this place exists,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And there gotta be a
Speaker 1: reason for that. So we're just trying to get you know,
Speaker 1: people to the to tap in with who we think
Speaker 1: is underrated. So shot some episodes and everything, Like I said,
Speaker 1: shout out you know Alchemist jay Worthy. The first one
Speaker 1: that come out, it's gonna be.
Speaker 2: About the alcoholics, because that's all we've been called ever since.
Speaker 2: We you know, had to deal with Like everybody sees
Speaker 2: the body of work that we did, right, we got
Speaker 2: songs with who you know, They got songs with wool Tang,
Speaker 2: then turn around to do a song with for real,
Speaker 2: they do a song with kid rock crazy to do
Speaker 2: a song with.
Speaker 1: I mean we did it.
Speaker 2: I tried to do an album called what's the name
Speaker 2: of the album? I forgot the name of the motherfucker,
Speaker 2: But I just put my features on.
Speaker 3: It, you know what I'm saying. Oh, so all features,
Speaker 3: all features.
Speaker 2: That's just because people might know that we did a
Speaker 2: song with Snoop, but not mind know we did a
Speaker 2: song with whoever.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. What was the kid rock
Speaker 3: song on that loud rock compilation?
Speaker 1: Nah, he just did a beat that was sugar rad.
Speaker 1: I was Sugar Rated.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I remember, like it was like a random
Speaker 3: album that if you find it by it because it's
Speaker 3: just rad. It was like some blue buff dude on
Speaker 3: the cover, like a cartoon, and like it had a
Speaker 3: bunch of loud artists like doing songs around.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't even know it they did.
Speaker 2: I was I don't know where it was that when
Speaker 2: they did it, but they are you you coming rapping
Speaker 2: at the end because they did the song without me.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was that when they So
Speaker 1: you guys did.
Speaker 3: Your guys' records with Sugar Red. Yeah, yeah, it was
Speaker 3: like so it was some of them. Ships were very random.
Speaker 3: It was kind of like the you know, Lincoln Park
Speaker 3: and jay Z did it, but y'all like loud and
Speaker 3: that did it, you know, fuck five years earlier.
Speaker 2: That's funny you mentioned that because my boy EFN called
Speaker 2: me yesterday tried to the drink champs here. Now he
Speaker 2: didn't call me, hit me on the text, and he
Speaker 2: just said he interviewed Lincoln Park and they said that
Speaker 2: we were the alcoholics, were a big influence to them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean low key like Mike Shinoda.
Speaker 1: Is like a Mike, Yes, and then he said that,
Speaker 1: so I just reached out.
Speaker 3: We just reached out like yesterday and trying to get
Speaker 3: in touch with him. Yeah, he was a part of
Speaker 3: uh what I'm trying to think of a rap group.
Speaker 3: He was runn and around with that was like an
Speaker 3: underground like backpack fucking because he had this four minor
Speaker 3: album and I remember there's all kinds of like backpack
Speaker 3: la shit on. That was like what the fuck, Like,
Speaker 3: who the fuck Mike, Mike should just tapped in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he but EFN said he wanted to get
Speaker 2: in touch with us, So we're doing that right now.
Speaker 1: Socoholic Lincoln Park.
Speaker 3: That'd be big Man, that'd be big. Yeah, it's crazy
Speaker 3: because just that era of music. I think it's like
Speaker 3: your album. I think the J five Ship, I think,
Speaker 3: you know, Expansion Team is a classic to me.
Speaker 4: What's going on with Phil the Agony Man, little cousin
Speaker 4: phiel Man?
Speaker 2: He actually big cousin Phil. He he chilling man. I
Speaker 2: just saw him couple of weeks ago and everything.
Speaker 3: He's put some fucking music Outum, that's what I feel,
Speaker 3: the Agony Bro.
Speaker 2: He sent me some incredible shit and I'm asking what
Speaker 2: he's waiting on. But like we, like you said, that's
Speaker 2: who I was hopping it up with about the Liquid
Speaker 2: Cool album and shit. And there's a lot of associates that,
Speaker 2: even if they don't use the word liquid creul and
Speaker 2: everything like crime.
Speaker 1: Don you know what I'm saying. Of course, you know
Speaker 1: a bunch of people that cry.
Speaker 3: On an exhibit? Are they good? Now? I guess that's
Speaker 3: an exhibit question.
Speaker 1: I don't even know this beefing.
Speaker 3: The strong arm steady thing happened, and you know, yeah
Speaker 3: that was something back that so long ago you would
Speaker 3: think it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: And if I ain't here what happened?
Speaker 2: And probably I don't know, man, but anyway, I know
Speaker 2: everybody good and good spaces and everything, like I just
Speaker 2: send Quinn a uh mad live thing and everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's incredible and he's acting. Now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's something about this liquid
Speaker 2: cool shit. We don't breathe failures, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: something about you know, so.
Speaker 3: You guys in the best you can do. Your guys,
Speaker 3: biggest single in terms of sales, right, just the labels
Speaker 3: say hey we got we like at that time Forrel's
Speaker 3: hottest fish Grease Neptunes are on fucking fire. Is that
Speaker 3: like a thing where like the labels like, yo, we
Speaker 3: got to get y'all with the Neptunes or nationally.
Speaker 2: That's what That's what I tip off of how people's go.
Speaker 2: They grow into their own self, I guess. But when
Speaker 2: we met for real, he requested us. He was like,
Speaker 2: I want to do I don't know if he went
Speaker 2: in the Steve rif Swift or whatever, but he said
Speaker 2: Alcoholic is one of his favorite groups and he would
Speaker 2: love to do something.
Speaker 1: And then he.
Speaker 2: Called somebody and said I got this beat that I
Speaker 2: no is gonna be a hit record. And it sounds
Speaker 2: perfect for that. Then when he played it, it ain't
Speaker 2: sound let nothing like what we was expected because he
Speaker 2: was fresh off of like like the clips, grinding and
Speaker 2: all that, so I expect to hear some of that.
Speaker 2: And then when he played the ship, we went to
Speaker 2: Virginia to Pharrell studio.
Speaker 3: We flew out there to do.
Speaker 1: The song with him, right, and I can honestly say
Speaker 1: I ain't seen him since.
Speaker 3: But I got a record.
Speaker 1: Though, yeah, we got a record. But it's like, but
Speaker 1: you see what he grew into, Like he the face
Speaker 1: of Lois with Gucci's. I don't know what he's doing.
Speaker 1: Look I think Louis, but shout out to Pharrell. Though. Man,
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, I got a chance to work
Speaker 1: with a legend.
Speaker 3: You know, it's crazy to think about like everybody off
Speaker 3: work with like Stoles p fucking the list on.
Speaker 1: Real And I mean this some pretty.
Speaker 3: Wild Would you ever? Did you ever entertain uh, doing
Speaker 3: a sequel to Rap life.
Speaker 1: Like a rap like part two? I might call the Douces.
Speaker 2: It has been a minute because now I'm living a
Speaker 2: different rap life, you know what I mean. I don't
Speaker 2: want to call it square because I still be having
Speaker 2: fun with my life. It's just I cut out the drinking.
Speaker 2: It just seemed like a lot of parties are more boring,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like you getting sober has like just
Speaker 3: improved the quality of life in terms of just like
Speaker 3: because I feel like, man, that alcohol, it weighs on
Speaker 3: your bath.
Speaker 1: You got to see a lot of the That's what
Speaker 1: my problem was.
Speaker 3: It was like.
Speaker 2: I was so blessed to, you know, with the loud
Speaker 2: situation and this and that. Then I didn solo.
Speaker 1: I was just so blessed to just just be one
Speaker 1: of the millions, Like you know what I'm saying, one
Speaker 1: of millions kind of you know, I got money, I'm young,
Speaker 1: I ain't an ugly motherfucker. We got calls, we got jewel,
Speaker 1: we got all this.
Speaker 2: And when you get, you know, into that thrown into
Speaker 2: that cycle, it's like you're.
Speaker 1: Living up to the image now, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Every car got be a vet or every house gotta
Speaker 2: be big or it ain't really you know.
Speaker 1: So I just tried to keep up with the Joneses.
Speaker 1: The Joneses, they should have you fucked up in that
Speaker 1: trying to keep up with the Jones that have your
Speaker 1: as homeless.
Speaker 3: Yo, you guys did the Taylor Swift thing. What's that
Speaker 3: where you guys re recorded clash.
Speaker 2: We were going through this big thing with that. Let me
Speaker 2: let me explain that right there, we did and it was.
Speaker 3: The same thing Taylor Swift did. That's right, man. She
Speaker 3: she re recorded all her old albums.
Speaker 1: Okay, this is east with not Taylor's Taylor Swift.
Speaker 3: The biggest artists in the world. She did the same.
Speaker 3: She didn't she had the mastss thing going, so she recorded.
Speaker 3: She re recorded her first like three albums, right, and
Speaker 3: they all went number one.
Speaker 2: I was just saying as a coincident that Swifts did
Speaker 2: the same exactly. But but what they did they wanted
Speaker 2: to get one of the songs. I think Clail Patrick
Speaker 2: of the record label wanted to get one of the
Speaker 2: songs in a movie or something like that. And then
Speaker 2: they presented it to us to do it, to re
Speaker 2: record the shit, and they said they had a live
Speaker 2: band that could we play the songs and shit, And
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, well, and then we Swift ended
Speaker 2: up stripping all the tracks down so the band would
Speaker 2: have something like a reference right to play. And this
Speaker 2: and that, and then we did we did our vocals
Speaker 2: and we sent them to the record label, and I
Speaker 2: don't know what happened. They just sent it as long
Speaker 2: as apology and all this, but they ended up putting
Speaker 2: out the stripped down version that Swift sent to them
Speaker 2: to replay on accident. I don't know what they hell
Speaker 2: or whatever, but we got some shit going on with
Speaker 2: them like.
Speaker 3: That, because when I saw it, I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: you guys, man, mean, I don't know if your master's
Speaker 3: situation will loud, but a lot of times if an
Speaker 3: artist does that, it's like, yeah, we're gonna put out
Speaker 3: our classics re record them, so we own the masters technically.
Speaker 3: So it wasn't that that was that kind of the
Speaker 3: player though. Yeah, But it was like.
Speaker 2: The version that they put out they still had simples
Speaker 2: in it, so it didn't make no sense, Like why
Speaker 2: is up?
Speaker 1: How did this happen?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. But they cleared it up
Speaker 2: out so they I think that they've already put up
Speaker 2: the the correct versions and everything. So I really ain't
Speaker 2: paying attention going I have so much shit going on
Speaker 2: right even you know, look up, but shout out clear
Speaker 2: Patrick Record suave the far side.
Speaker 3: Are you? Are you putting out the solo stuff independently?
Speaker 2: That's what I'm I'm waiting for my I want my
Speaker 2: next move to be my best move. So I got
Speaker 2: some killer ship, so I don't want to just put
Speaker 2: it out and you know nobody hears it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying for sure?
Speaker 3: You know I think what you got to do, man
Speaker 3: is you got to do it independently. But you you
Speaker 3: have to partner with someone on vinyls exactly.
Speaker 1: Okay, So yes.
Speaker 3: You're you're, you're, you're you're. I mean where you're gonna
Speaker 3: be able to hit the lick is vinyls cassette games,
Speaker 3: because what your fans are gonna want to buy it
Speaker 3: like Collect collected.
Speaker 2: But whether you play a vinyl if it doesn't map bro, listen,
Speaker 2: Vinyls you got all mapped out.
Speaker 3: Like I'm telling you right now, Vinyls out selling everything.
Speaker 1: That's what it's doing.
Speaker 3: If you go to Target, there's no CD, there's vinyls.
Speaker 3: The vinyl aisle at Target is cracking. There's like this
Speaker 3: whole entire because now fans any Target, you go to
Speaker 3: go to the where the electronics are and the books
Speaker 3: there's a giant vinyl area.
Speaker 1: I've been targeting. Sometimes you gotta do a vinyl.
Speaker 3: Make sure all of your branding is like use your
Speaker 3: old logo like you want, like you want your fans
Speaker 3: to be like at the end of the day, like
Speaker 3: your fans want to collect something because they can stream
Speaker 3: it all day. That's the thing. Nowadays, it's like it's
Speaker 3: it's it's like you can stream the album, but the
Speaker 3: fans still want to own something, so you got to
Speaker 3: give them something to own.
Speaker 2: You feel me like I just looked at it, like
Speaker 2: if you ain't got no turntables, what you're gonna do
Speaker 2: with it?
Speaker 3: But but look now, when I tell you you're finna
Speaker 3: go to Target, go to Walmart, You'll see the vinyl
Speaker 3: with Walmart. It's a lot, bro. It's it's the it's
Speaker 3: the it's so like guys like Freddy and al and
Speaker 3: all these guys are making millions of dollars, Like ask Alchemists.
Speaker 3: Alchemist makes millions of dollars yl I'm talking about He'll
Speaker 3: sell a vinyl with just beats and that shit sells
Speaker 3: the fuck out. So you got it. I'm telling you,
Speaker 3: whatever you do next, collaborate with someone to the distribution
Speaker 3: on vinyl evidence go ahead, yeah, hit ev hit out whoever.
Speaker 3: You could do it with Empire they do the vinyl thing.
Speaker 3: Or you could and then do like a super limited
Speaker 3: run like cassette tapes and then you'll bro that she'll
Speaker 3: sell out.
Speaker 1: I thought the vinyl only sold overseas with some reason.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no it is.
Speaker 1: And then it set tle.
Speaker 3: My son is nineteen years old and has like two
Speaker 3: hundred vinyls. He collects vinyls. Wow. Yeah. And now like
Speaker 3: the turntables that they're making nowadays, you know, back in
Speaker 3: the day you had to have run a turntable and
Speaker 3: do a motherfucking am tool. No, they got usbat turntables
Speaker 3: for these.
Speaker 1: Bro, that's the tea cold.
Speaker 3: No, it's it's crazy. Yeah, you got you would murder it.
Speaker 3: So whatever you do next, it's got to have a vinyl.
Speaker 3: So if you're doing an album, if it's a rap
Speaker 3: live two, make sure.
Speaker 1: That our work is you got to map down there.
Speaker 1: You might be my silent partner six figure bag. You're
Speaker 1: just sitting there just waiting for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. Like that's the thing. It's like I
Speaker 3: was like, like the and the thing is too. With
Speaker 3: the with the record shit is like you have to
Speaker 3: plan it out because the record plants are like three
Speaker 3: months behind. That's why when like Kendrick did the super Bowl,
Speaker 3: they planned it out perfectly, where his so gn X
Speaker 3: have been out for months, but the vinyls dropped denied
Speaker 3: to the super Bowl and then bitches he he sold
Speaker 3: another one hundred thousand units just because he sold one
Speaker 3: hundred thousand pieces of a vinyl.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's perfect.
Speaker 3: Now you gotta do the vinyl shit man, especially Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: it'll go crazy. And then if you guys ever do
Speaker 3: like any talk shit. I don't know what Loud's doing,
Speaker 3: but I would tell Loud to reissue, like, yeah, we
Speaker 3: should do like a I don't know at what point
Speaker 3: in time the big a big anniversary for like twenty
Speaker 3: one and over, but.
Speaker 2: I think I think it's like after a certain amount
Speaker 2: of years we own the rights to fuck it.
Speaker 3: I would. I would do like a super limited edition
Speaker 3: twenty one and over vinyl pressing. It will sell out. Listen,
Speaker 3: it'll sell out.
Speaker 1: That's what we're doing with the that's what we're supposed
Speaker 1: to do with the the one.
Speaker 3: The re release, I'm.
Speaker 1: Saying, ah, yeah, like the Vinyl.
Speaker 3: Fans that like collect ship and they want to support
Speaker 3: you guys. Man Like, So yeah, dude, I don't know
Speaker 3: if ABB still does vinal stuff.
Speaker 1: But it's not a contract we signed with Clio Patrick.
Speaker 1: Vinyl was in there to make the money because streaming
Speaker 1: is whatever, dude.
Speaker 3: Like if you're like a like, like like any artist
Speaker 3: that's independent, it's like yo, when you throw your shit
Speaker 3: up on streaming, it's it's like an advertisement so that
Speaker 3: people can come and spend money with you at the
Speaker 3: shows or merch or whatever. So so do you have
Speaker 3: a timetable the new songs out, but do you have
Speaker 3: a timetable on when you think you want to put
Speaker 3: another solo project out? Like you said, you're trying to
Speaker 3: figure that out.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna drop two more, gonna drop this remix, like.
Speaker 2: I said, with a big remix, Yes, yes, yes, but
Speaker 2: we got big big it's gonna crack.
Speaker 1: But I got a shoot. I being a song called
Speaker 1: Shoe Fits.
Speaker 2: It's called if the Shoe Fits, And that's just like
Speaker 2: some tasks like all my MC ship, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. There's like an inspirational song just about kind
Speaker 2: of like the old task that's having fun, rambling, you know,
Speaker 2: just talking about my life and everything. And after that,
Speaker 2: I see a lot of a lot of tour days
Speaker 2: coming up, you know what I'm saying, the alcoholics and solo,
Speaker 2: solo and ship. So I'm gonna be on the road
Speaker 2: to like Christmas fire and looking for more. So, but
Speaker 2: anybody out there on some on a difference on a
Speaker 2: side note and everything, I am looking for some management.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And what I mean by that is just like I'm
Speaker 2: handling them my career. You know what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 2: just I can't manage myself and do the music, yeah,
Speaker 2: and do all this other shs. I got my hands
Speaker 2: a lot of cookie jars. So anybody out there to
Speaker 2: see that, they hear the attention is a drug. And
Speaker 2: you know, like the remix has no home yet, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I mean, he's always got a
Speaker 2: home if you put it out. Independent for sure, but
Speaker 2: you know, I just see the bigger picture. So get
Speaker 2: at me, Bo cash Man.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you pulling up new song is out, Go
Speaker 3: support it, go street, run it up and uh the
Speaker 3: videos out, Yes, sir.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Dave Sapel and Fatty Lumpkin.
Speaker 3: Shout Dave Chappelle.
Speaker 2: I had to say that guy had to chest to
Speaker 2: go to his quib, I mean, not his quib. But
Speaker 2: he lives in this little town called Yellow Springs in Ohio.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, he's like his compound.
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, and he invited me out to come out
Speaker 2: and hang out with him for a couple of hours
Speaker 2: of this shit, and it was crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've heard, I've only heard about it, but it
Speaker 3: looks I mean, I've had a few homies who were
Speaker 3: going there during COVID to watch on his shows. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I heard it's amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's dope shit.
Speaker 2: But the crazy part is that one of the rules
Speaker 2: is you can't videotape, right, So that's why I said,
Speaker 2: shout out Dave Schapelle. I can't post nothing of this
Speaker 2: and that. But it's incredible though. Man, you got this
Speaker 2: little town on lot Yellow Springs. Yes, so this is
Speaker 2: his new movie, Oh fire. Shout out to Chappelle.
Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, he's got at Harriet's in West Hollywood. It's
Speaker 3: at the top of one hotel. Uh. Yes, it's on
Speaker 3: corner there. It's called Chappelle's Corner. Wow. So you get
Speaker 3: like sat that's.
Speaker 1: What if you go to this town. I got the
Speaker 1: video camera right here.
Speaker 2: I saw you the town that they got spelled logo
Speaker 2: like stores and.
Speaker 3: Oh that's like his town.
Speaker 1: Damn it, that's like is sepel Ville. That's great, dude though.
Speaker 2: Man's just you know, he told us a lot of
Speaker 2: love that didn't have to just me and my cousin
Speaker 2: and shout out Jay Ross.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Boom, I appreciate you pulling up. Man. Can't I
Speaker 3: wait to hear what you got in the store. I
Speaker 3: can't wait for the remix.
Speaker 1: It sounds crazy, so we clicked hit you with it.
Speaker 3: Boom, My guy.
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