1 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily on eight 3 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland, presented by bally Bet Sportsbook, an official 4 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: sports betting partner of your Cleveland Browns. Please bet responsibly. 5 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura. 6 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: It's all live on a Tuesday edition of Cleveland Brown's Daily. 7 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 2: I am merely Bo. He is the great z. How 8 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: you doing, Buddy, I'm doing well man. It's good to 9 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: be with you. 10 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 3: You know. 11 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: Obviously not a fan. I had to crank that back 12 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 2: up there after that. 13 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 4: Was over there was over there yesterday and get a 14 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 4: little bit more blasted out of there. But yeah, good man, 15 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 4: good I'll tell you what uhh that be Jon Robinson 16 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 4: is is special now I will I will crush the 17 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 4: Falcons for not being a serious franchise many times. Yeah, 18 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 4: and now they've been so unserious that they go and 19 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 4: win this game and have created total chaos in the 20 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 4: NFC South and the win an in game is no 21 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 4: longer a winning in game unless you're the Carolina Panthers. 22 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: I was awakened to that news this morning. Not great. No, 23 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: Now they have two shots. They don't even need to 24 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 2: win anymore. This is bad for it's good for the 25 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: future investment of NBC. But listen to winning it. There's 26 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: no way he's not. I mean, the Saints are one 27 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: of those two things will happen. I look, I told 28 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 2: you Chuck's been unbelievable. I watched him a couple of 29 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: weeks ago. I'm like, he's coming along and and so 30 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: that's scrawling. But there's both of those things. It's also 31 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: it's just like, by the way NFL, they tried too hard. 32 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: That game should have stayed at one o'clock on Sunday, 33 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: then they would have gone at the same time. Should together, 34 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: that should have been a one o'clock game. They were 35 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: so worried about these windows and all this nonsense. 36 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 4: They didn't think the Falcons were gonna win that game. 37 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 4: The Falcons mucked it all up and a half point favorite. 38 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: So, just so everybody understands, the Falcons winning last night, 39 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 2: that's right now, means that the four o'clock the NFL. 40 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: We talked about this yesterday. The NFL set up this 41 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: weekend for three windows, two of them non traditional NFL windows. 42 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 2: Win and you're in the four o'clock won the one 43 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 2: they deemed least interesting of the three because of the 44 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: four o'clock time was Bucks Panthers winner. You're in still 45 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: winning in if you're the Carolina Panthers. If you're the 46 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 2: Panthers because of last night Saturday night eight o'clock Seahawks 47 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 2: Niners win, you're the one seed. And then finally Ravens 48 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: and Steelers win and you win the AFC North and 49 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,839 Speaker 2: you're in that. That is a playoff, that is the 50 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: true playoff. That was the one. That's the only one. 51 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: That's the only one. They thought they had one there. 52 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: But by the Falcons beating the Rams, now because of 53 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: some crazy tiebreaker, even if the Bucks beat the Panthers, 54 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: they now need the same to beat the Falcons. 55 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 4: Because if it is a three way tie, by the 56 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 4: way NFC South on fire three way tie at eight 57 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 4: and nine, if there. 58 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: Is a three way tie at eight and nine, the 59 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 2: Panthers win that tiebreaker craziness because of some sort of 60 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: win percentage thing or something, which means. 61 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 4: It's gone all the way down because I was looking 62 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 4: at it there. The division records would end up being 63 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 4: the same the conference records. They would tie Atlanta and 64 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 4: then it had to go to something else, and that 65 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 4: would have been that's the winning percentage of the non 66 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 4: similar opponents. 67 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: What you don't get to that depth often. Where do 68 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: you rank the consequent consequential failure, the consequences that came 69 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: of the failure of the Los Angeles Rams in twice 70 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: going to southeastern part of this country. They went to 71 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: Carolina about a month ago as massive favorites ten and 72 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: a half, eleven and a half something like that. Lost 73 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: Stafford through two picks in that game. 74 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 5: I don't know if they've been the same since that game. 75 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: Then they won a couple in a row, and they 76 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: lost a close game to Seattle, but then again then 77 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: last night they go again seven and a half point 78 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: favorites to Atlanta, again the southeastern part of the country. 79 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: They get same same thing. The Carolina game. Stafford throws 80 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 2: these crazy picks in the first half. He's thrown five 81 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 2: interceptions in those two games. He's thrown three the rest 82 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 2: of the year. Of the year, the rest of the year, Yep, 83 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 2: he threw three picks. Those two losses cost them the 84 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: one seed in the NFC, maybe cost him the MVP. Yeah, 85 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: he may still win it. Anyway, forty three hundred yards, 86 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: forty three touchdowns, eight picks, it's pretty good. But if 87 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: his team was the one seed, he wins it and 88 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 2: I got news for it. Now I'm guessing Drake May 89 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 2: is the favorite. Now, Drake May would be pretty good. 90 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 2: I mean, brock Perty's got to get a little love, 91 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 2: even though he didn't play the whole year. Yeah, I 92 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 2: think not playing enough is going to be the problem. 93 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 2: But it's it's probably gonna come down to Stafford or May. 94 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 2: And he still might get it just because he's older 95 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 2: and it's like throw him a bone for the career 96 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 2: and all of that. But if they handle their business 97 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: in two games, are massively favored in even if they 98 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: just win, don't cover, just handle your business. They win, 99 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 2: they're the one seed in the NFC, and he wins 100 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 2: the MVP. And are they locked into the six now 101 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: or they know they're not. They can go down to seven, Yeah, 102 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 2: they could be six. They can't go to five. I 103 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: don't know. The Niner Seahawks loser is five? And well 104 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: is that for sure? I mean I'm asking, well, I 105 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: don't know, Like do the Sea do the Niners have 106 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: the tiebreaker over the Rams? If they both have the 107 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: same record. 108 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 4: I think so, because everything I've seen has kind of 109 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 4: made it sound like yeah, because they would have. 110 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 2: They're twelve and four, the Seahawks are thirteen and three. 111 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 2: The Rams are eleven and five. Yeah, but if the 112 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 2: Rams go to twelve and five this weekend and if 113 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: they're forteen, that doesn't matter. The Niners aren't losing on 114 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 2: Saturday night at home. I don't think so. I definitely 115 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: don't think so. So they're either the six or the seven. 116 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: So they're either going to the Bears or the Eagles. 117 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 4: Right now, they're the six. They're going to the Eagles 118 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 4: would be right now. 119 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: Which I'd rather play them than if i'm them. The 120 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 2: Eagles have won two games this year, I think, in 121 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: which they haven't completed a pass in the second half. 122 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 5: That's a rematch of the NFC playoff last knocked the 123 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 5: Rams out, not necessarily the Eagles. 124 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 2: It was one hundred million yards. He had a bunch 125 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: of yard, but that was they were the ones who 126 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 2: played the Eagles closest last year in the postseason was Rams. 127 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: Actually they were the ones. So that's how consequential those 128 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 2: two were. 129 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 4: It's wild. Yeah, that was that was a big one. 130 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 4: And it's funny. 131 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: I was scrolling. 132 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 4: At the middle and the middle of Luca woke up 133 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 4: for a second at three and I was just I 134 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 4: was like, oh, I wonder what happened in the game. Yeah, 135 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 4: and obviously Atlanta got the win. 136 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 2: And then I saw somebody who said something like, it's. 137 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 4: The most Falcons thing, would be the most Falcons thing 138 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 4: ever to end up eight and nine and create a 139 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 4: three way tie that gives the division to Carolina or 140 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 4: something like that. I don't know, And I was like, wait, 141 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 4: what right, Because we had been told all along was 142 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 4: that was. 143 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 2: It wasn't until I woke up this morning that I 144 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 2: read it and I'm like, you gotta be kidding. Yeah. 145 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,239 Speaker 4: So, I mean for the Panthers, you're still playing winner 146 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:13,239 Speaker 4: get in. I mean the bucks though it almost lessens 147 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 4: your motivation a little bit. Not really, I mean you 148 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 4: still feel. 149 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: Like you got to handleway of business. I just think 150 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: the NFL didn't see it in those games should have 151 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 2: been going simultaneous. That should have been an one o'clock game. 152 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 2: They overthought it, they tried it making it, but what 153 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: else would you have put there? Yeah, but don't worry. 154 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: I guess that's my whole point. I was kind of 155 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: my beef yesterday with the Christmas games, Like you're the NFL, 156 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: Like some of this stuff is just bad ball. You 157 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: don't know who's going to try hard who's not. But 158 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 2: you can't create these specific windows that you've curated to 159 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 2: have special games. Look what they had to look at 160 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: the hurdles the NFL jumped through to deliver what they 161 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: thought were going to be three Christmas Day good games 162 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: to Netflix. None of them were. Yeah, none of them mattered. Now. 163 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: They tried, but they had to create a sixteen pod 164 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 2: to make it work. Because you're not used to playing 165 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 2: games Thursdays and Wednesdays like they did last year Christmas. 166 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 2: You're just working too hard for this. Like you own Sundays, 167 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 2: you own the sports landscape in this country. You've got 168 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: Monday night, Sunday night, Thursday night, all day Sunday. You're good. Yeah, 169 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: I think maybe you're good. 170 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 4: Should have put the I agree you don't need the window, 171 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 4: but if you're gonna do the window once this was 172 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 4: a possibility, I'd put the Chargers Broncos in there. Broncos 173 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 4: are playing for the ones seed. It's too playoff time. 174 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: I wouldn't even have emphasized a Saturday four o'clock. No, 175 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: I don't need it. It's a nonsense window. 176 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 5: Put us at four o'clock. Fine, yeah, a nice little 177 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 5: warm up for everybody, nice warm. 178 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: Up, rivalry game. Everybody's gonna play hard. Go do that? 179 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: Like the idea that they worked this hard to try 180 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: to create a specific Saturday four o'clock window just doesn't 181 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: make sense. 182 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 5: So keV, just send us a message. A Seahawks loss 183 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 5: would lock them in at five. A forty nine Er 184 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 5: loss the playoff spot and the ranking is based on 185 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 5: the result of Rams Cardinals. 186 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 2: Then okay, So then that would lead me to believe 187 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 2: that the Rams would go all the way to the 188 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: five spot could if the forty nine ers were to 189 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: lose to the Seahawks. Yes, that's correct. I don't thanks, keV, 190 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: which I don't think is in the cards. No, I 191 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: don't think, no pun intended none. Our team is off today. 192 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: Three more practices this season. They will begin tomorrow at 193 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: one fifteen, then Thursday at twelve to fifteen, and Friday 194 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: at noon. Is Shelby Harris going to join us here 195 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: in a matter of moments? 196 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 3: Two? 197 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 2: Okay? Let me just say this, and I want you 198 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 2: upon her this as we go to break. So I'm 199 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: sort of interested in the game last night, but it 200 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 2: wasn't like something that I had to be all locked 201 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 2: in on. So I put it on the second screen 202 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: as you know, I'm batching HBO was running Thrones. You 203 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: saw this, dude. The end of season one in the 204 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 2: beginning of season two of Thrones is unreal. I know, 205 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 2: I know, but like I have had such a negative 206 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 2: tone to it because of the way that it ended, 207 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 2: and I haven't watched any of it in forever, and 208 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: I put it, I'm like, my god, like I forgot 209 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: all this stuff, and it's one thing. It just go 210 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 2: It's unbunbelievable. It really it's the best show ever. They 211 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 2: just watched it, but it really was. It was there 212 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: was the beginning of it was really really most of 213 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 2: it was. If they had let us rite the ending, 214 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: it would be the best show to stop at with 215 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 2: are you doing this and let it go to the 216 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: imagination and then that's it. 217 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 4: Totally fine, or let them win or let them win, 218 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 4: which also totally and then and then you go and 219 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 4: then you go to a scene right where you see 220 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 4: that John Snow and Denais have made a baby that's 221 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 4: being hidden. Yes, and then you think, okay, so that's 222 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 4: actually there's hole Prince, that's Promise, and that's who's going 223 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 4: to lead humanity back. 224 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: And I have another show. Yeah. They blew it as 225 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 2: big as you could ever blow it all right, Shelby 226 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 2: Harris going to join us. Coming up next to those your 227 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: hot topics today presented about University Hospitals, official healthcare partner 228 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: of your Cleveland Browns. The should also mention this one's winner. 229 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 2: The local business platform presented by Minuteman Association with Medical 230 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 2: Mutual Is Game Truck. 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It 247 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: might be jealous. 248 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 3: Have you seen the Yeah, you know he was hugging 249 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 3: harder than my wife does. But you know, I just 250 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: that's just how it is. My wife to be asking 251 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 3: me about if I got somebody to tell her, But 252 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 3: I'm just like, no, man, that's dude. 253 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: Have you you've seen this still though? Like you've got 254 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: to get that blown up and put on a wall. 255 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 2: It's an unbelievable photo, and considering the magnitude of the 256 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 2: play and all of it, it's such a cool it's 257 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: such a cool image. 258 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 3: Yeah. I know, I did realize it at the time, 259 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 3: but I just didn't realize how egregious of a hold 260 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 3: it were was. But you know, I'm just you know, 261 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 3: I'm just happy to make the play, you know what 262 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 3: I mean, You got to fight through stuff like that. 263 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 3: But man, you know it's people's eyes were open, you 264 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 3: would be able to see it. 265 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 4: Shelby, I've got to ask you because you if we 266 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 4: know about your you know the block kicks in your 267 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 4: career that are so numerous. You had one earlier this 268 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 4: year in the win over Green Bay. You now have 269 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 4: thirty nine passes defensed in your career as well, you 270 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 4: had nine of them in a season back in twenty nineteen, 271 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 4: which is crazy on a defensive line. How is it 272 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 4: that you've always just been so good at getting those 273 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 4: big mits up there and bat and balls out of 274 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 4: the sky. 275 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 3: Actually one year I had a leaven but I'll bat it. 276 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 3: Ball only counts if it hit the ground, and two 277 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 3: of them got caught. Good. 278 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 2: Good. 279 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: That what's crazy? And you know I'm talking about this before, 280 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 3: which makes me thinking it is you know, somewhat of 281 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 3: a skill. Is because I'm a high schools all time 282 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 3: leader in block shots for basketball. Oh wow, And you 283 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 3: know you gotta you know, so I have every every 284 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 3: single block shot record, so it's timing. And also I 285 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 3: would say my time in Denver, we had a D 286 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 3: line coach to Bill Kohlar, and you know, running at 287 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 3: three four read the line of scrimmage a lot more 288 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 3: than you would be running the four to three like 289 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 3: Jim Schwartz's defense, and so a lot of the times though, 290 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 3: especially with quick passes, you know you're right there in 291 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 3: that passing way and you just gotta get your hands up. 292 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 3: So Bill Kolar always used to work it every day 293 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 3: in practice, and you know, it just kind of became 294 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 3: something that I became very good at. 295 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you are good at it, man, that's I didn't know. 296 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 2: The basketball side of it's pretty good. What was your 297 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 2: your six to two though, right am? I is that 298 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 2: that's what you're lost. 299 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 3: Don't do me. Don't do me six three Inche give me. 300 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 4: Six three, We'll still six to three. To have a 301 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 4: shot blocking record is incredible. It's not like like that 302 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 4: Kelly just saw last week, who's like seven foot four 303 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 4: that was on the defensive line of the Bills. 304 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. I have a six ten and a half wingsman though, 305 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 3: so in long arms, you know that that works out. 306 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 3: That helps out a lot for the you know, for 307 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 3: the blocking shots things. But you know, it's funny because 308 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 3: we played it the other day in the team meeting. 309 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 3: It was a clip for me in college. It all 310 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 3: was like playing like stand up d N and just 311 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 3: looked like I was all arms, but pitting me in 312 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 3: my whole career though everywhere basketball football does have long arms. 313 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: That helps. 314 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 4: Wingspan is a it's a it's an important and important 315 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 4: measurable What did that wouldn't mean to you guys. I mean, 316 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 4: just to get it done and to prevent the Steelers 317 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 4: and you know, you knock a pass down from Aaron 318 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 4: Rodgers is gonna be a first ballot gold jacket, you know, 319 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 4: to stop them from from trying to win this division 320 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 4: on our field. 321 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 3: A screw those guys, to be honest, exactly, yeah, because 322 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 3: the way we looked at it is this is it 323 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 3: had nothing to do with the Ravens. Don't like those 324 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 3: guys either. You know. It was whoever was in first, 325 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: We're going to make sure they're not in first. With 326 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 3: the date's done, you know, knock them out, you know, like, 327 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 3: and that was kind of our job. You know, obviously 328 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 3: with no playoffs this year, we're just trying to ruin 329 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 3: somebody else's season this point, and you know, the Steelers 330 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 3: definitely seem like they were more interested in not having 331 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 3: miles to the sack record than they were winning. And 332 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 3: we were glad we take that and dominate them on 333 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 3: that aspect, because if you looked at it, they didn't 334 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 3: really try to develop any type of passing game downfield, 335 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 3: and you know, the quickest throws of Aaron Rodgers' career 336 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 3: almost and you know, you were more worried about the 337 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 3: sack record of getting to win, and we were in 338 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 3: there trying to We were over there trying to get 339 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 3: the win. And you can tell. 340 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. It's so interesting to hear you saying 341 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 2: that you were a combatant in it and watching it 342 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: as we're watching it and Nathan was broadcasting, I'm going, 343 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 2: my god, like they are doing everything to make sure 344 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 2: that he doesn't get near that thing or anywhere near Rogers, 345 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 2: and everything they did is now out in terms of it. 346 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: When you guys are in the middle of it, when 347 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 2: did he become apparent to you that they were going 348 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: to just do everything in their power, almost to spite themselves, 349 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 2: to make sure he didn't get it. 350 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 3: Man, when you hear the online thing, oh, you're not 351 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 3: long to do it on me. That's what you're worried about, 352 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,719 Speaker 3: not about putting the division, you know what I mean, 353 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,239 Speaker 3: You're worried about not being the one to give up 354 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 3: the record. And you know, we'll see I guess you 355 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 3: know how that kind of effexis. I'm going forward, But 356 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 3: you gotta, you gotta. It's already hard enough to win 357 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 3: games in his league. You know, you gotta try to 358 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 3: take take advantage of any situation. And it didn't seem 359 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 3: like their focuses on the way there. 360 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it is. It is very hard to 361 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:45,719 Speaker 4: win in this league. That has got to be your 362 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 4: singular focus. And it was wild. 363 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 2: I gotta ask you. 364 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 4: So we always talk about, you know, Jim Schwartz, sometimes 365 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 4: it's the wide nine defense. There were at times, Shelby, 366 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 4: I don't know if Miles was in a wide seventeen 367 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 4: or a wide nineteen. 368 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 2: I mean he was. 369 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 4: He was aught like outside the numbers on some of 370 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 4: these lineups, and he would take three guys away from 371 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 4: the middle. So is that kind of fun for you 372 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 4: when you like see him all the way out there 373 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 4: and be like, all right, you know, three guys are 374 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 4: going that direction to be able to make some moves 375 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 4: and that's how you're able to get you know, a 376 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 4: hit or two there on Aaron Rodgers. 377 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 3: Man, it was it was very interesting, Like is watching 378 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 3: Miles get so wide and weave in and out all 379 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 3: these people and still getting close to the quarterback. It's 380 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 3: just it's something that it's a marvel to see every week. 381 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 3: Even when I see it doing practice, I'm sitting there 382 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 3: like this guy's insane. But I just think that, you know, 383 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 3: when they when they do stuffing like that, it makes 384 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 3: it that everyone else has to make plays. You saw 385 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 3: ads right, have a tremendous game because you sit all 386 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 3: that focus to Miles, you know what I mean, Like 387 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 3: so other people were stepping up, be from Mason over here, 388 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 3: making tackles left and right, all over the players. That's 389 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 3: that's what happens when you put all that focus on 390 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 3: one player, do the other guys have to go step up? 391 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 4: Let me ask you this because you you live this 392 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 4: every single week. But like every team of course game 393 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 4: plans for Miles Garrett. Yeah, right, that is that is 394 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 4: a very normal thing. What you're saying is that this 395 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 4: was on a just a different level. 396 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 3: Well, yes, one like it was. It seemed like it 397 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 3: was just more of them not trying. It's been wanting 398 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 3: on them. I didn't know. I don't know if they 399 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 3: had to do with because their T J. Wattas has 400 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 3: the record too. Yeah, you know, anything like that. But 401 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 3: this wasn't much. They didn't They didn't let it develop. 402 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 3: They didn't let any of their pass game developed. There 403 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 3: was a very few deep shots. Everything was pretty much 404 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 3: a line of scrimmage of like five ten yards down 405 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 3: the field. So it's it's obviously Anon Rodgers and today. 406 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 3: But he already threw the ball quick mm hm, he was. 407 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 3: He was already throwing the ball getting rid of the 408 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 3: ball at a high rate. It just was a lot 409 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 3: faster when we were there. 410 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it was, Shelby. What what would it mean 411 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 2: to this defense if Miles is able to get it 412 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 2: on Sunday down in Cincinnati. What badge of honor would 413 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 2: that be for this overall defense? 414 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 3: Well, you know, sax, We look at sacks as a 415 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 3: team stat because even though one person gets it, rush 416 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 3: and coverage have to work together, and more like, we 417 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 3: have to stop the run. In order for us to 418 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 3: be able to rush the passer, the offense has to score. 419 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 3: We have to have some type of lead in order 420 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 3: for us to get another position to rush the passer. 421 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 3: It's not just a defense. That is the team set, 422 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 3: everybody working together. You know, we already we set the 423 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 3: franchise record for sacks already and now this is just 424 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 3: the next one. But we're extremely encouraging of everybody and 425 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 3: we and we're extremely excited to go out there and 426 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 3: just play football. It's not necessarily about the record. It's 427 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 3: just about this is the last opportunity for all these 428 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 3: guys go out there and play the game together. Obviously 429 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 3: this team will be different the next year. So for us, 430 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 3: you know, we just enjoy being around each other and 431 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 3: enjoy playing with each other, and so for Miles to 432 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 3: get that, it'll just be like the ice you know 433 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 3: on the cherry on top of we already like enjoy 434 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 3: each other. We you know, we've the season obviously didn't 435 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 3: go the way we wanted it to go. But the defense, right, 436 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 3: you know, we pride ourselves. You know, we take pride 437 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 3: on all those things. That's just another thing we take 438 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 3: fight in. 439 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 4: You guys held obviously them out of the end zone 440 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 4: in this game, and you held Aaron Rodgers and I'm 441 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 4: not going to give him credit for the third down 442 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 4: conversion where they're tight end ran the ball. You're Dan 443 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 4: Rodgers on third and four down to two of seventeen 444 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 4: in this game. Aaron Rodgers two of seventeen. That's got 445 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 4: to be the worst of his career. Was that something 446 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 4: that you guys are you know, that's Aaron Rodgers leading 447 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 4: that football team into our stadium not even putting a 448 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 4: touchdown on. 449 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 2: The border week after they had really lit up Detroit. 450 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah. 451 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 3: And I think that's also part of this. They were 452 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 3: afraid of the pass for us third down. You have 453 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 3: to try to let some things develop and they and 454 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,959 Speaker 3: they didn't, and so you they wanted to rely more 455 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 3: on I would say they wanted to rely more on rack, 456 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 3: you know, right after the catch to try to get 457 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 3: these first downs then actually throwing the ball past the sticks. 458 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 3: And you know, I say, all linebackers and dbs played 459 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 3: the hell out of that, and so it just made 460 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 3: it a tough day in general for whatever they tried 461 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 3: to do. 462 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 2: Buddy, I'll get you out of here on this one. 463 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 2: Great having you on what was your Christmas highlight for 464 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 2: you and the family? 465 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 3: Honestly just being like being at home, being with my family, 466 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 3: just hanging out and just having a day off and 467 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 3: being able to be there with all the kids and 468 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 3: them opening presents and seeing the smiles on their face, 469 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 3: because that's what we do it for. As an adult, 470 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 3: you know, Christmas can kind of lose the spirit and 471 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 3: kids kind of bring it back, and so that's like 472 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 3: the best part about Christmas is is more of just 473 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 3: like just seeing the happiness in your kids eyes. 474 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: Beautifully said brother, Merry Christmas to you. Happy New Year. 475 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 2: Let's let's close it out in style on Sunday. Always 476 00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 2: appreciative of your time. Thanks for giving us a little 477 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 2: bit of it today. 478 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, of course that good talking to you guys. 479 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 3: Have a great New Year's. 480 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: Happy New Year. Brother, There he goes Shelby Harris joining 481 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 2: us on the Twisted Tea Hotline. Will do a little 482 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 2: risk reward with our good buddy mister z Astadil coming 483 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,959 Speaker 2: up next. 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And for that, I don't even know 493 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 2: if I want to ask where you are? Because the 494 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 2: wind's blowing sixty miles an hour. Here go on sideway 495 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 2: twenty seven degrees. Dave they they yesterday you couldn't have 496 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 2: certain height vehicles on the turnpike. For God's sakes, where 497 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 2: are you? 498 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 3: You know what? 499 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 6: My family and I are down in Key Largo, Florida 500 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 6: till Saturday. 501 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 2: So that was reward. We'll see on down the road, buddy. 502 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, we can. Unbelievable right now, I got the best reward. 503 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 2: You're right, Your risk and reward is won. 504 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 6: You have right Hey, I'll take it. I I've been hearing, 505 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 6: you know, the rumors of the weather back home. So 506 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 6: we're gonna enjoy why we can. But we get back 507 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 6: after the new year. We you know, we've got a 508 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 6: few months stretch, so I got to take advantage of 509 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 6: these times when I can with the family. 510 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 4: Absolutely, we're just jealous. That's all that is. That is 511 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 4: pure jealousy. All right, I want to ask you before 512 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 4: we get into the risk reward. But I felt like 513 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,719 Speaker 4: in this last game, they finally let Cory bork Has 514 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 4: hit punts the way that Corey bork Has can hit punts. 515 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 4: And it was I was saying on the broadcast, this 516 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 4: is vintage Cory Bjork. Haz, this is a guy who 517 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 4: over the last few years average fifty one yards a punt, 518 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 4: forty nine yards a punt, forty nine yards a punt 519 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 4: forty nine this yeards down to forty five point eight. 520 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 4: It was fifty seven yards of punt in that game. 521 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 4: He flipped field position, he had the longest sixty four. 522 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 4: His net was well up over forty six in this game. 523 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 4: So that was did you notice a difference. I felt 524 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 4: like we had not seen him hit those boom and 525 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 4: spirals and so long. I thought it was very refreshing 526 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 4: to see, and then it turns him back into the 527 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 4: weapon that he had been for us in the last 528 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 4: couple of years. 529 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just funny, coming from my era to see 530 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 6: that he's down to forty five point eight yards a 531 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 6: punt this year when that was probably probably led the 532 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 6: league back when I played, just saying something about the 533 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 6: punters these days. But no, he had a great game. 534 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 6: I mean, the guy certainly has the ability to flip 535 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 6: the field. He certainly has the ability to pin teams deep, 536 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 6: and it was just great to see him. And as 537 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 6: you said, Nath, I mean, if he comes out and 538 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 6: plays like that, it's a true weapon for the team, 539 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 6: especially in putting the defense in great field position. So 540 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 6: it was great to see him having game like that, 541 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 6: and obviously you could see how that benefited the team. 542 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 4: As a punter, how did you balance you know, kind 543 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 4: of your directives and you know, not wanting to quote 544 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 4: unquote out kick your coverage, but also saying, look if 545 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 4: I boot it sixty five yards, even if he returns 546 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 4: at twenty, it's still a net forty five, Like that's 547 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 4: a and that's a great net. How do you balance 548 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 4: kind of those those calculations in a game, and for 549 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 4: a team that's had quite frankly, as we well documented, 550 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 4: you know, trouble covering kicks. I don't know, sometimes it 551 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 4: seems to me like let's just get the ball out there. 552 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 4: As far as we can, and the other quicker we 553 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 4: can tackle them the longer the punt. 554 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a great question. You know, when I played, 555 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 6: I focus on three things. Number one, catching the ball, 556 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 6: you know, because you had to catch the ball first, 557 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 6: that's the most good point thing. Then you focus on direction, 558 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 6: and the direction typically is called before the punt. You 559 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 6: run on the field and a lot of things dictate 560 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 6: that you got wind. You got to see where on 561 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 6: film typically they have their best rush side or where 562 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 6: creepers we call them creepers will come in from the 563 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 6: outside and try to try to rush. They typically would 564 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 6: take advantage of the wind try to force you to 565 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 6: drop it inside and hit a bad pun. And then 566 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 6: the third thing is you know hang time and distance. 567 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 6: You know you had guys back in the day when 568 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 6: I played, like Shane Leckler. You know, maybe you know 569 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 6: a future Hall of Famer in the position that just said, 570 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 6: I got a I got a great leg. I'm just 571 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 6: going to hit this ball as far as I can. 572 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 6: It's your guy's job to go cover it. I mean, 573 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 6: he just didn't care, right, But most guys you know 574 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,719 Speaker 6: didn't have a leg like him. So if you could, 575 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 6: if you could stick to the direction you're hitting and 576 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 6: hitting you know above a four or five four six 577 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 6: hand time, hang time and get you a you know, 578 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 6: forty five plus yard kick. You felt like you were 579 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 6: doing your job. Now, I can tell you playing in 580 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 6: the AFC, nor especially in Cleveland, especially in Cincinnati. Uh 581 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 6: for the for the two that I remember the most, 582 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 6: that wind picks up and crosses you all the time. 583 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 6: So sometimes it may not look that windy, but on 584 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 6: the field it is. And so you may have questioned 585 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 6: a guy like Corey borf Hey, you know, maybe last 586 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 6: game or two and have as great at but you 587 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 6: have no idea the type of wins that he might 588 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 6: have been dealing with when he dropped that ball. So 589 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 6: you know, he's just he's a great punter and it's 590 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 6: good to see that he did that last game. I 591 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 6: was really happy for him. 592 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 2: Dave, what did you make of And we just had 593 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 2: Shelby Harrison and he was We asked him about some 594 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 2: of the things that Pittsburgh was doing to prevent Miles 595 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 2: from getting the record, and Shelby flat out said, I'm paraphrasing, 596 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 2: but felt like they cared more about that than than 597 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 2: winning the game. What did you make of Pittsburgh's approach, 598 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 2: and it seemed to a lot of us that obviously 599 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 2: they didn't expect to lose, they were trying to win 600 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 2: and do it. But certainly it felt like almost as 601 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 2: much as winning was a priority, also was making sure 602 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 2: Miles didn't set the sack record. 603 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, sure did. When you have a veteran quarterback like 604 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers, that's not something he wants to go down 605 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 6: in the record books with, I'm sure. But you could 606 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 6: see they were double team him, they were chipping them, 607 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 6: they were getting the ball out early. I felt that 608 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 6: they knew, in my opinion, how the type of season 609 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 6: Miles have had and how much disruption he can bring 610 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 6: to a game if they don't put focus on him. 611 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 6: So I think, you know, Pittsburgh, whether it's Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, 612 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 6: any team we've played, you know that's going to be 613 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 6: part of their game plan. But it did seem like 614 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 6: they tried to get the ball out quick, try to 615 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 6: you know, you know, run away from Miles per se. 616 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 6: And it definitely, it definitely was a distraction, and obviously 617 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 6: it worked. You know, maybe they did put too much 618 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 6: focus on that. The problem is, you know, when the 619 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,719 Speaker 6: Browns defense plays at home, and I don't know what 620 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 6: it is. It just seems like our play elevates to 621 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 6: another level at home. And so when you combine all 622 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 6: that together, you kind of saw what happened on Sunday. 623 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 4: Which was a beautiful thing. It's a beautiful thing to 624 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 4: see them get the win. All right, we got to 625 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 4: get a win on the road in the division. First 626 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 4: opportunity to do that will be the coming up this 627 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 4: week down in Cincinnati. 628 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 2: Now, Joe Burrow. 629 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 4: Every day we sit here and I look to our 630 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,959 Speaker 4: left here for bow looks straight at there is a 631 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 4: giant mural of Miles Garrett sacking Joe Burrow is on 632 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 4: that fourth down play week one of twenty twenty three. 633 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 4: We need to see him sack Joe Burrow one time 634 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 4: on Sunday to get that record. Do you are you 635 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 4: how confident Aru that it's happening the Sunday. 636 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 6: I have a pretty good feeling that it's gonna happen. 637 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 6: He's typically we've typically had good luck against Joe Burrow 638 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 6: and the Bengals, you know, per se over the years. 639 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 6: I think he's you know, Miles says he's gonna do it. 640 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 6: I think we got to believe him at this point. 641 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 6: The thing about that game though, is, you know the 642 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 6: Bengals actually the last two weeks have put points on 643 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 6: the board. I mean, they're starting to kind of put 644 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 6: this thing together. You think they would be going the 645 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 6: other direction and kind of just tanking and folding, But 646 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 6: I think they're They're showing the league that nobody really 647 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 6: wants to play them right now, so you know they're 648 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 6: gonna they're gonna go do their thing. But I do 649 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 6: think there's a better chance Miles breaks the record against 650 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 6: Cincinnata than I saw it going into the Pittsburgh game. 651 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 6: So we'll all be rooting for him, obviously, but I 652 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 6: gotta think Jim Schwartz will have something special up at 653 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 6: sleeve to try to get him that sack. 654 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 2: All right, buddy, you deep sea fishing? What are you doing? 655 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 2: You're snorkeling, golfing, golfing. What are we doing? What's thet Yeah? 656 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 3: Well done? 657 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 6: In the Keys where my family were. My father law 658 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 6: was a big, you know, big fisherman. So we went 659 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 6: out there some other day caught up. We actually got 660 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 6: a while, we caught some tuna, and then yesterday we 661 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 6: took the kids snorkeling today. I think that Arctic blast 662 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 6: is actually unfortunately head down here. We got a little 663 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 6: bit of when the temperatures are cooled off, so we're 664 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 6: kind of just hanging out today. 665 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 2: Cooled off to what, Dave. 666 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 6: I'm scared to say. It's about seventy two degrees out 667 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 6: in so sorry. 668 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 2: Kindly leave, kindly leave, Yeah, kindly enjoy your vacation, buddy. 669 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 2: Happy New Year and your family. 670 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks, guys, appreciating me on same you. 671 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 2: Cool down to seventy two. I didn't even know what 672 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 2: we have. I don't even know seventy We might see 673 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 2: that by May. I would do a happy dance at 674 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 2: forty five. Currently, g Man might be in shorts by 675 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 2: that point, Gabriel, my wife and kids are on the 676 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 2: plane leaving southern California. Well, yeah, Beamsy's had a great line. 677 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 2: I'll read it for you. For Vadim, he's the only one, 678 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 2: by the way, he can they come home so early. 679 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 2: Bootsy's birthdays tomorrow. I care about you, but I would well, 680 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 2: I think they wanted to have some celebration with their 681 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 2: father throughout. 682 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,479 Speaker 6: The time off. 683 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 5: Nice weather party were dead. 684 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I got this this line from Beamsy, who 685 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 2: was again the only one. He goes, can't wait to 686 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 2: see you, not excited to go back to this. And 687 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 2: it was a video I sent him yesterday of the 688 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 2: wind just blasting. It's nuts, I. 689 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 5: Said, I understand, buddy. I walked to the car last 690 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 5: night leaving here. 691 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 6: Was just god. 692 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 4: I opened my car at the store yesterday morning and 693 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 4: it almost if I didn't have the wear with all 694 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 4: that my hand on the door and have a good 695 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 4: fund it it might have gone one of the hinges it. 696 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think what's crazy is it's been really 697 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 2: brutally cold except for Christmas Day and a couple of 698 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 2: days after since middle of November. Yeah, it's been like 699 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 2: it's been like six eight weeks of this already, and 700 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 2: we got a lot more to come. So all right, 701 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 2: we'll go around the league. Give you your Microsoft minute. 702 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 2: Coming up next to Listening to Cleveland Rounds Daily were 703 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 2: presented by bally Bet, official sports spinning partner new Cleveland Browns. 704 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 2: Please bet responsibly fifty ESPN Cleveland. 705 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: You're listening to Cleveland Browns Daily on a fifty ESPN 706 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: Cleveland presented by Balley Bett Sportsbook, an official sports betting 707 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: partner of your Cleveland Browns. 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You have to select five and 717 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 2: only five to make it in. That is the task? 718 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 2: Is that your task? 719 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 5: Giving yep for this year's class, Like you know, they're 720 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 5: usually around five and then they do like a legend 721 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 5: and then a contributor. So I'm giving you the task 722 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 5: where you can only pick five for this class. 723 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 2: Okay, and I got to do. 724 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 4: Let's see, I think there are four no brainers, and 725 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 4: I think there are four no brainers too. I think 726 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 4: five is going to be not hard. 727 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 2: It's just I think it'll be what your are. Do 728 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 2: you and I have the same four no brainers? Well 729 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 2: we'll find out, won't we. I mean, let's do that 730 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 2: and then we can have the discussion on the fifth. Okay, 731 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 2: Breeze yep fits yep. Keithley yep. And Belichick he counts 732 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 2: as one of the five. 733 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was going off of the fifteenth. 734 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 2: No is that's a seniors category? Yeah, Belichick. How is 735 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 2: Belichick not a what? I don't understand. Why would he 736 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 2: not be a normal. 737 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 5: He's a coach finalist? 738 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's not in this group. Yeah, he's a 739 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 2: coach finalist. 740 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 5: So it says the selection committee may elect than five 741 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 5: modern era players, which is what the task I've given you. 742 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 5: Each must receive a minimum positive vote of eighty percent 743 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 5: for election. There will be five others. Senior category finalists 744 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,959 Speaker 5: Ken Anderson, Roger Craig, and Elsie Greenwood, along with coach 745 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 5: finalists Bill Belichick and contributor finalist Robert Kraft, also are 746 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 5: candidates for the class of twenty twenty six. Voting on 747 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 5: these five is conducted separately as its own group from 748 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 5: the modern era players. A minimum of one person and 749 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 5: a maximum of three from those five may be elected 750 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 5: under the Halls current bylaws. 751 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 2: So have I have we agree on the first three? 752 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 2: Breeze fits Keighley. 753 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I have Adam Vinteri. He's the best kicker of 754 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 4: all time. He should be in the Hall of Fame. 755 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 3: Is he? 756 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm asking I believe. I believe that to be true. 757 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 2: He's got the clutch, He's got a couple of clutchies. 758 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 2: He's got some huge clutchies, massive clutchies. 759 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 760 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 2: Hold on, I'm trying to is his case better than Suggs. 761 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 4: Vintari is a three time first Seamal Pro. He's got 762 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 4: more field goals made than anybody in NFL history. I 763 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 4: would just always kind of consider him to be the 764 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 4: best kicker ever. Four time super Bowl champ, He's on 765 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 4: the All two thousands decade team. 766 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:33,439 Speaker 6: Yeah. 767 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 2: Sugs only made one first team All Pro. 768 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 769 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 2: Seven time Pro Bowler, two times super Bowl Champ. He's 770 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Year in the Defensive Rookie of 771 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 2: the Year. He's got that. 772 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,919 Speaker 4: Tory Holt has surprisingly kind of what I would call 773 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 4: a low. 774 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 2: Is. 775 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 4: His things are a little bit They're not what you 776 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 4: would expect it to be for Tory Holt. 777 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 2: You're saying that I would think in mind's eye that 778 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 2: it would be more that he accomplished more in. 779 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 4: Terms of where how he was regarded against his peers 780 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 4: like Reggie Wayne is a six time All Pro, six 781 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 4: time Pro Bowl or, one time first team All Pro, 782 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 4: two time second team All Pro, LAED League and receiving 783 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 4: one time. He has one, two, three, four, five, six, 784 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 4: seven eight thousand yard seasons and of those many or 785 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 4: more than thirteen hundred yards, Tory Holt became Tory Holt, 786 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 4: who was excellent. But I think it's I don't think 787 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 4: we're gonna have as much. I could be wrong about this, 788 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 4: but I don't think we have as much stuff as 789 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 4: I would one would think our internet as obviously as 790 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 4: you know. 791 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 2: Not great, not fast. You're looking for Holt, Yeah, here 792 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 2: we go. Well, i'd say here, I've clicked on it. 793 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,240 Speaker 2: Tory Holt is one time All Pro, seven time Pro Bowl. Actually, 794 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 2: he mimics Terrell Suggs. Basically, he's the receiver version of Suggs. 795 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,320 Speaker 2: Big game Tory Holt is he except he doesn't have. Obviously, 796 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 2: Suggs has Defensive Player of the Year, Defensive Rookie of 797 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 2: the Year, and two time Super Bowl champ. Holt just 798 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 2: has the one. He's on the Hall of Fame's All 799 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 2: two thousands team. But I don't know what that really means? 800 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 2: How many people made that? Yeah? I mean, look, Eli, 801 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 2: you'd have to consider on some level. I think Eli 802 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,840 Speaker 2: is Aikman. He won two Super Bowls. Yeah, and he's Akman. 803 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 2: Aikman won the three Super Bowls and that's how he 804 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 2: got in. 805 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 4: Holton, Red Dwayne are basically the same guy. 806 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. It seems like Reggie's a little more decorated. Little 807 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 2: got the three All Pros. But he also played with Manning. Yeah, 808 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 2: so that's you know. 809 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 4: Witten is an eleven time Pro bowler, a two time 810 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 4: first team All Pro, two times second team All Pro, 811 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,439 Speaker 4: and he is second I think all time among tight 812 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 4: ends and catches and yards. So part of that's longevity, 813 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 4: but also eleven Pro Bowls to first team All Pro, 814 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 4: two second team All Pros. 815 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 5: Darren Woodson is three time Super Bowl champ, three time 816 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 5: first team All Pro, five time Pro Bowl. 817 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 2: I think I looked him up. How many first Team 818 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 2: All Pros? There's just one? Oh? Really, and Willy Anderson 819 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 2: had three is a three time All prot I've got 820 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 2: I guess, so where I am? I think there are 821 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 2: I think the vinitiery one is if a kicker is 822 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 2: going to get in he's the kicker, just real quick. 823 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,720 Speaker 4: Yanda is eight time Pro Bowl. He is two time 824 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 4: first team and five time second team. 825 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 2: Oh I misread it. I clearly miss. 826 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 4: From twenty eleven to twenty nineteen, he was a Pro 827 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 4: Bowler every year but one, and he was first or 828 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 4: second team All Pro every year but two. 829 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 5: Did you read off vinitieries, Yeah? 830 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:38,359 Speaker 2: I did. Yeah, I think it's weird. On the Pro 831 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 2: Football Reference it has Yanda is just a two time 832 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 2: All Pro. 833 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 4: First team, but he's five times second team. So he 834 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 4: was first or second team All Pro seven times. 835 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. Usually, oh, on Pro Football Reference, they'll have second team, 836 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 2: they'll have that designation. 837 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 4: You have to go look down on his like yearly 838 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 4: things when it says all Pro at the top of 839 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 4: somebody's that's only first teams. I see Reference high standards. 840 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 2: Yeah they really do. Yeah, okay? Or is it an accumulator? 841 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure he's like he's like top four all 842 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 2: time in rushing I think third all times. 843 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 4: Sixteen hundred yards, sixteen thousand, sixteen thousand, I'm sorry ya, 844 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 4: sixteen thousand yards in sixteen seasons, which is impressive. Only 845 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,439 Speaker 4: Emmett Smith and Walter Payton have rushed for more yards 846 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 4: in the NFL than Frank or. 847 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 2: Is he Clay Matthews That I don't know, but I 848 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 2: will say this, here are the two. That was the 849 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 2: thing with Clay was he played so long? 850 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't know if he ever got to 851 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 4: like that level. Like this is third all time rushing. 852 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 2: No, I know, but that's also a stat that no 853 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 2: one even attempts to do it anymore. 854 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 4: Here's what I'll say. I'm gonna start with number seventeen 855 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 4: in all time rushing yards. Okay Thurman Thomas Hall of Famer, sixteen, 856 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 4: Frank o'herris Hall of Famer, fifteen, Marcus Allen Hall of Famer, fourteen, 857 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 4: Editan James Hall of Famer, thirteen, Marshall Fall Hall of Famer, twelve, 858 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 4: Jim Brown Hall of Famer, eleven, Tony Just Dorset Hall 859 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 4: of Famer. Ten, Derek Henry will be a Hall of Famer, nine, 860 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 4: Eric Dickerson Hall of Famer, eight, Dern Bettis Hall of Famer, seven, 861 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 4: Ladaanian Townson Hall of Famer, six, Curtis Martin Hall of Famer, five, 862 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,879 Speaker 4: Adrian Peterson will be a Hall of Famer. Four Barry 863 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 4: Sanders Hall of Famer three, Frank Gore two, Walter Payton 864 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 4: Hall of Famer one, Emitt Smith Hall of Famer. 865 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 2: No, it's there's no question. Was seventeen. They're all in. Yeah, 866 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 2: a lot of some of those were from a different era. 867 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 2: The one thing that's interesting about how many times in 868 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 2: his sixteen year career do you think he averaged more 869 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 2: than eighty yards rushing a game? 870 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,720 Speaker 4: He was just every year consistent. I would say probably 871 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 4: few eighty yards of game. Sixteen games, eight hundred and 872 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 4: forty twelve hundred and eighty yards, I would say probably 873 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 4: maybe never he had one. 874 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,319 Speaker 2: He had twice two did it twice. In his second 875 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 2: year in the league, ran sixteen ninety five, and then 876 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 2: he did it. He ran for exactly eighty yards a 877 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 2: game through fourteen games. He ran for eleven twenty in 878 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 2: two thousand and nine with the Niners and that was it. 879 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, he just an incredible accumulator, totally. 880 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 2: Never was an All Pro. That was second team once 881 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 2: in two thousand and six, which is a hard you know, 882 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 2: it's a hard nut to crack. But that's a tricky 883 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:06,839 Speaker 2: one there. 884 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 4: Let me see what his You know, they have their 885 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame like Monitor, they have him at one 886 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 4: hundred point five tenth among running backs Hall of Fame 887 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 4: average Hall of Fame running Backs one oh six. 888 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 2: So profooball references Hall of Fame. Monitor thinks that he 889 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 2: will get in. 890 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 4: That he will, yes, but that's our own made up 891 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,320 Speaker 4: stat but yes, that they think that he will. 892 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 2: Get in yonda someone they think. 893 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 4: Yanda's They think, actually Yanda is a less less candidate 894 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 4: vinitaries in according to their thing for sure. 895 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 2: So the go ahead. 896 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,760 Speaker 5: I might get killed for this, but like comparing Frank 897 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,240 Speaker 5: Gore and longevity to Clay Matthews. 898 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 2: That's what I just said. Yeah, sorry, I was nook 899 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 2: at now That's what I said. I when he was 900 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 2: going through the Frank Gore thing, I go, is he 901 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 2: Clay Matthews like I look for him? I play for 902 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:04,400 Speaker 2: twenty years? 903 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, and you just you're. 904 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,240 Speaker 2: Good the whole time, Like you're good the whole time, 905 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 2: but you play in an era like the longevity the 906 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 2: availability is the best ability, yeah, which should make you 907 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 2: a swhich matters, It should matter, it should, but it's 908 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 2: that's it's that's the thing that's so difficult, you know, 909 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 2: with with Gore, and I'm sure with Clay. For the 910 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 2: folks when they go and look at it, I was 911 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 2: looking at No, No, you're fine. No, that it's funny because 912 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,320 Speaker 2: that's me. Once he was going through it. I go, 913 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 2: he's Clay Matthews because you were doing the sixteen years 914 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 2: and the accumulating. 915 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 4: And I'm like their monitor thing thinks that Vintari is 916 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 4: a no brainer and that Jason Witten is a no brainer. 917 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 4: I mean eleven Pro Bowls, eleven Pro Bowls to first team, 918 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 4: two second team. I think he's like the Cowboys all 919 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,240 Speaker 4: time leader and receptions and receiving yards. 920 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 2: I think he was damaged a little by the TV 921 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 2: because it went so bad that I think people sometimes 922 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 2: forgot about the football. Yep, that's a that's a really 923 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,879 Speaker 2: competitive group. I cannot believe they made Luke Keikley wait. 924 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 2: It's insane, that's just ridiculous. It's it's awful, is what 925 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 2: it is. Yeah, it's a real joke that he had 926 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 2: to wait. Fits and Breeze are obviously walk right in 927 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 2: gold jackets. 928 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 4: For those who don't know, Luke Keikley played from twenty 929 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 4: twelve to twenty nineteen. 930 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,359 Speaker 2: I mean it would just be great if like there 931 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 2: we go. 932 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,840 Speaker 4: He was in his first season in the league, the 933 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:39,399 Speaker 4: Defensive Rookie of the Year season two Pro Bowl First 934 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,719 Speaker 4: Team All Pro, Defensive Player of the Year, season three 935 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 4: Pro Bowl First Team All Pro season four Pro Bowl 936 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 4: First Team All Pro, third in the Defensive Player of 937 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 4: the Year voting. Season five Pro Bowl Second Team All Pro. 938 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,919 Speaker 4: Season six Pro Bowl First Team All Pro, season seven 939 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 4: Pro Bowl First Team All Pro, season eight Pro Bowl 940 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 4: Second Team All Pro. Like the fact that he's not 941 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 4: in his as a joke. No, I mean he's pretty automatic, 942 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 4: pretty close to the Hoff. Yes, it's first baut like 943 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 4: in terms of accomplishments, it's it's very hof like. 944 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 2: Yes, in terms of what Keikley did, it's crazy that 945 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,319 Speaker 2: he that he should be already, you should have been 946 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 2: in on the first ballot. It's really it's insulting. Yeah, 947 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 2: so yeah, I think that's because didn't Zach Thomas go 948 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,919 Speaker 2: in in the Hofs. Yeah, but Keikley was available last year. 949 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 2: That wasn't the Hoffs here? Oh yeah, it's two years ago, 950 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 2: two years ago. Yeah, how did Thomas go. 951 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 5: In with the I believe Zach Thomas did go in 952 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:28,719 Speaker 5: with a Hoff. 953 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have no idea. How did he not go 954 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,759 Speaker 2: in last year? Did they put another linebacker in that? 955 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 2: We were, but he should have went in on the 956 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 2: first ballot. 957 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,360 Speaker 4: Twenty twenty five Hall of Fame class. 958 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,279 Speaker 2: Who was in that class last year? 959 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 1: I don't remember. 960 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 2: I was just so dialed for the Hofs here. 961 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 4: I mean, Zak Thomas should have been in a long 962 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 4: time ago too. He was a five time first team 963 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 4: All Pro, second team All Pro. Yeah, the two times. 964 00:45:52,800 --> 00:46:01,320 Speaker 2: I mean yeah on this one windows Yeah, Luke Kickley 965 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 2: not going in is a crazy it was. It was 966 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 2: a weird year. It was Eric Allen, Jared Allen, Antonio Gates, 967 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,120 Speaker 2: and Sterling Sharp. So they only put four in. They 968 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 2: could have put five. I mean, how is he not 969 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 2: in that group? 970 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:14,840 Speaker 4: I could see him go four this year and just 971 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,800 Speaker 4: go Breeze Fitzgerald, Keegley in Ventitari. 972 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how. If Belichick's available, he's got 973 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 2: to go in. 974 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 4: Well, that's a different that doesn't count against these Yeah, like, yeah, 975 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:26,759 Speaker 4: that's Corzl and Robert Kraft is going to go in. 976 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,759 Speaker 2: Boby Graft should go in. It's weird that he's not 977 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 2: in and Jerry's in. 978 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 4: I'd like to see Roger Craig go in in the 979 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,320 Speaker 4: seniors category. I don't know if he's. 980 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,359 Speaker 2: He's got about eighty five hundred yards rushing. I think 981 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 2: we look this up and I think I have it 982 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 2: pretty close to memory. He's got about eighty five hundred 983 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 2: yards rushing in about four thousand yards receiving. 984 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 4: Four time Pro bowler, one time All Pro, third in 985 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,319 Speaker 4: the MVP voting that year, and he was like the 986 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,359 Speaker 4: originator the first ever. 987 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 2: How close was I on the career numbers eighty five 988 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 2: rushing yards and five thousand receiving in the ballpark in 989 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 2: the ball Yes, you're I knew it was somewhere right 990 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 2: around within a thousand. 991 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 4: He had two years where he had two thousand or 992 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,440 Speaker 4: more yards from scrimmage and seventeen or more touchdowns in 993 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,239 Speaker 4: those years, I ironically, believe it or not, he had 994 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 4: a year where he ran for fifteen hundred yards and 995 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 4: had five hundred and thirty four receiving. And then he 996 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 4: was the first one nineteen eighty five, folks, the guy 997 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 4: runs for one thousand and fifty yards and nine touchdowns, 998 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,840 Speaker 4: lead the leagues with ninety two catches, one thousand, sixteen 999 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 4: yards and six touchdowns receiving. 1000 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 2: He's the first ever a thousand thousand guy. I mean, 1001 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,879 Speaker 2: this case is probably most similarly to Terrell Davis's. Well, 1002 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 2: TD was on another level, he was, I know, but 1003 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,840 Speaker 2: like the shortness of the career, like Craigs is like 1004 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 2: an eight year it's he's really good for five years? 1005 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 2: Good for five Yeah, yeah, true, he. 1006 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:42,799 Speaker 4: Just was, and he was a pro bowler in four 1007 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,920 Speaker 4: of those five years. He was the first tem All Pro. 1008 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 4: He's third in the MVP voting one year, which is wild. 1009 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 4: That's just one of those where I think you look 1010 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 4: back and all the guys who get in now that 1011 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,759 Speaker 4: were on those Steelers seems like he's I think, yes, 1012 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,799 Speaker 4: he's a forty nine Ers guy, and he there is 1013 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,319 Speaker 4: something you can put on his bus. First guy to 1014 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 4: ever have a thousand yards rushing in one thousand area 1015 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 4: receiving in a season, Like, yeah. 1016 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,239 Speaker 2: That's on there. That's it's also crazy to like you 1017 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 2: mentioned the Steelers, like they're trying to get Elsie Greenwood in, 1018 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 2: Like does everybody on the seventy Steelers is a Hall 1019 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 2: of Famer? Yes, that's like they got forty guys. I 1020 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 2: don't know why they had a league if they're all 1021 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 2: they're all on that team. It's unbelievable how many got in. 1022 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,399 Speaker 2: Add more fund to your fandom with the ballet Bet 1023 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 2: Sportsbook app. Download today, get fifty back in bonus bet 1024 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 2: you placed at first wager of ten or more. Ballely Bet, 1025 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 2: official sports betting partner of your Cleveland Browns. One thought 1026 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 2: around Week seventeen. Coming up next to list to Cleveland 1027 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,400 Speaker 2: Browns Daily on a fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1028 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,480 Speaker 1: You're listening to Cleveland Browns Daily on eight to fifty 1029 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 1: ESPN Cleveland, presented by Bally Betts Sportsbook, an official sports 1030 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,880 Speaker 1: betting partner of your Cleveland Browns. Please bet responsibly. 1031 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,839 Speaker 2: This season. Check the Browns social channels daily. The Player 1032 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 2: a digital scratch off game for your chance to win 1033 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,400 Speaker 2: club seats and other great prizes, presented by the Ohio Lottery, 1034 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,239 Speaker 2: proud partner of your Cleveland Browns. Time now for that 1035 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 2: Microsoft Minuted. It's presented by Microsoft Surface Copilot plus PC. 1036 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:30,840 Speaker 2: Here is duc to Z. What a job on third downs? 1037 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,279 Speaker 4: They call those the money downs, right, and what a 1038 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 4: job by this Cleveland Browns football team. Three of fifteen 1039 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 4: on third downs, zho of three on fourth down. So 1040 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 4: that's a combined three of eighteen take away a tight 1041 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,920 Speaker 4: end run. You hold Aaron Rodgers, a future Hall of Famer, 1042 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 4: to two of seventeen on third and fourth down. Two 1043 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:51,320 Speaker 4: of seventeen on third and fourth down. What an unbelievable 1044 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,920 Speaker 4: job by the Cleveland Browns defense. And it's everybody because 1045 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 4: when they were neutralizing Miles or doing everything they could 1046 00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 4: to make sure you did get the sack record and 1047 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,160 Speaker 4: need other people step up on this defense. Other people 1048 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,279 Speaker 4: did step up. Whether it be Shelby, whether it be 1049 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 4: Mason Graham, whether it be Alex Right, whether it be 1050 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,760 Speaker 4: the linebackers Devin Bush and Carson Sweessinger who are everywhere. 1051 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 4: Whether it be Rayshawn Jenkins stepping in as a starter 1052 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,400 Speaker 4: due to the injuries, whether you got Tyson Campbell and 1053 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,239 Speaker 4: Denzel on the outside who were unbelievable, Trey Avery stepping in, 1054 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 4: you got Rayshawn and Grant Delpin and Ronnie Hickman there 1055 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 4: on the back end. It was a team effort. Everybody 1056 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,879 Speaker 4: did a great job. Bait Jerome Baker was flying around, 1057 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 4: Diabatte was flying Arond. We were playing some four linebackers, 1058 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,960 Speaker 4: four defensive ends, four linebackers, three dbs at times in 1059 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,320 Speaker 4: that game, and the Browns got the job done so 1060 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 4: great defensive effort. Incredible job and listen, Denzel Ward said 1061 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:36,839 Speaker 4: it best. I don't know why you're trying me three 1062 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 4: times a row with the game on the line unless. 1063 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,960 Speaker 2: You didn't want to win. Well said by him, and 1064 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 2: you well done all right. Time for one thought around 1065 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:50,440 Speaker 2: every game in Week seventeen of the twenty twenty five season. Hello, 1066 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:51,480 Speaker 2: gibbeh hi. 1067 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 5: Okay, let's get through it because there's a lot to 1068 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,440 Speaker 5: get through. We have this, we have guests of scorers. 1069 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,479 Speaker 5: Oh boy, eight, I just we got a full hour there. 1070 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,319 Speaker 2: We got a lot going on here. We gotta get 1071 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 2: through a lot. I gotta gotta go, we gotta go. 1072 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,919 Speaker 5: Let's start with Christmas. Feels like it was a month ago. 1073 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:14,600 Speaker 5: Really it was five days ago. Uh Cowboys thirty Commis 1074 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 5: twenty three, Bob Bishop. 1075 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:21,120 Speaker 2: One thought, I guess what I'm most interested in is 1076 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 2: this Dallas team is at best going to finish eight 1077 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:30,040 Speaker 2: eight and one. It felt like they were a team 1078 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 2: that had like does Jerry care about winning? Yes? Come on, 1079 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 2: but I know I'll watch the doc. But does he yeah? 1080 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,399 Speaker 2: Like yes, It's just such a strange thing everything they've done. 1081 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,880 Speaker 2: And they released Trayvon Diggs today. Do you hear the 1082 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 2: details on this? He wanted to stay in they played 1083 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,359 Speaker 2: against the against Washington. He said, can I just stay here, 1084 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 2: I'll fly back the next fly back. I'm gonna fly back. 1085 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,440 Speaker 2: This is my family. I'm gonna stay here anyway. Can 1086 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,480 Speaker 2: I just stay here and I'll fly back today on 1087 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,520 Speaker 2: my own? And the Cowboys are like no, And he's like, well, why, 1088 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,400 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna fly ride back on the plane with 1089 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,920 Speaker 2: you guys, And then pook the first flight out of 1090 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,719 Speaker 2: Dallas back to DC and they were like vehemently no, 1091 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 2: and then today they release him. It's just like, you 1092 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,360 Speaker 2: have a really good quarterback in dak Prescott, you have 1093 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,839 Speaker 2: two monster weapons, You've got a decent run game, and like, 1094 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,320 Speaker 2: what are you trying to be? What were the Cowboys 1095 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 2: trying to be this year? 1096 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,279 Speaker 4: I don't know, but I mean everything we know about 1097 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,560 Speaker 4: the Cowboys and the way they operated, especially at the 1098 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 4: peak of their powers, like, let the guy. 1099 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 2: Go back to DC? 1100 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 6: What do you care? 1101 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:32,719 Speaker 2: Yea, what do you care? What? 1102 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 4: I thought it must be linked to something with his brother. No, No, 1103 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,440 Speaker 4: it was no, it was this. They had the details 1104 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 4: of it. This Jordan Schultz had the reporting on it. 1105 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 4: So he was like, can I go home? Can I 1106 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:44,440 Speaker 4: just stay here? 1107 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,719 Speaker 2: And they're like, no, he has Schottenheimer if he could 1108 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 2: stay and he said no, and he's like, well, I'm 1109 00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:48,640 Speaker 2: gonna and. 1110 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,759 Speaker 5: He asked him in advance, in advance, asked him like 1111 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,920 Speaker 5: the night before him was vehemently denied. 1112 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,200 Speaker 2: Again, Yeah, like why why? 1113 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,400 Speaker 5: Like you know you're going to be off all weekend. 1114 00:52:58,640 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 2: It's a long break. 1115 00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,399 Speaker 5: You played Thursday, you get the weekend off, right if 1116 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,080 Speaker 5: you win? That's usually the case. 1117 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not going back to work until today. Maybe 1118 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,239 Speaker 2: in Dallas, like they had the extended break. Let him live, right, 1119 00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:15,680 Speaker 2: they're not playing weird, so they just cut him. Yeah, 1120 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 2: so they cut him. Now he's he can play for 1121 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:17,799 Speaker 2: somebody else. 1122 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 5: He's got a clear waivers. 1123 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,960 Speaker 4: They have to claim his seconds, get the remainder of contract. 1124 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,000 Speaker 4: But sure if a team is good and as the 1125 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,680 Speaker 4: space would say, sure, why not? Yeah, like did he 1126 00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 4: play in the game. I'm telling you right, I can't. 1127 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 4: I can't get anything to load on you. 1128 00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,360 Speaker 2: It might be a this problem because I'm actually okay, 1129 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 2: it's not this problem. This thing's unbelievable. Well, I don't know, 1130 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,280 Speaker 2: great machine because I'm mom faster. It's a tremendous machine 1131 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:39,719 Speaker 2: on this. 1132 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:40,400 Speaker 3: Machine over here. 1133 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:41,680 Speaker 5: How many windows you got open? 1134 00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 3: There? Seven? 1135 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:47,319 Speaker 2: It doesn't dude, this is a new pro What are 1136 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:47,839 Speaker 2: we talking about? 1137 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:48,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1138 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,719 Speaker 2: That should fly. Yeah, it's got processors. We don't even 1139 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,520 Speaker 2: know about ships and stuff. 1140 00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,080 Speaker 5: All right, micro process We're going to the next game. Well, well, 1141 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:04,600 Speaker 5: he tries to figure that out. Vikings twenty three, Leon's ten. 1142 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,080 Speaker 5: Minnesota comes away with their eighth win of the year. 1143 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 2: They are eight to eight. 1144 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,399 Speaker 5: And the Lions season just full of disappointment. They've now 1145 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,880 Speaker 5: lost three in a row. Nathan, would you like to 1146 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 5: contribute one thought? 1147 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:16,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna try. 1148 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:20,319 Speaker 4: I'm gonna do my best under the circumstances. But what 1149 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,799 Speaker 4: in the world has happened to the Detroit Lions? What 1150 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,440 Speaker 4: has happened to the Troit They lose a game to 1151 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,560 Speaker 4: Max Brosmer, who goes nine of sixteen for fifty one 1152 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,880 Speaker 4: yards and was sacked seven times. 1153 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:34,279 Speaker 2: And they lost. 1154 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:39,239 Speaker 4: How how do you lose this game? They were they 1155 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,279 Speaker 4: were still alive, yep, with a win. 1156 00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,880 Speaker 2: They had They lost four fumbles. Buddy God fumbled it 1157 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,160 Speaker 2: three times through and through two picks. He had five turnovers. 1158 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 2: On his own. Gibbs fumbled another one. I mean, that's 1159 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,480 Speaker 2: how it happened. But that's just stupefying sane. Yeah, probably 1160 00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,640 Speaker 2: the worst. I mean, not like I'm charting his whole 1161 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,560 Speaker 2: career Detroit, but probably the worst game Jeredgb's ever played 1162 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 2: at the Detroit Lions. It's terrible. Yeah, he had a 1163 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,080 Speaker 2: couple of games for LA when he first came in 1164 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,680 Speaker 2: that were really rough, but nothing like this since he's 1165 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,919 Speaker 2: been in Detroit. By the way, have you seen this guy? 1166 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,160 Speaker 2: Look at him? I mean he is Look at him. 1167 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:20,560 Speaker 2: This guy's headed straight to lonesome dove. Look at him. 1168 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,800 Speaker 2: He's got it. He's got cattle. He's running a business. 1169 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,920 Speaker 2: He's running a business over there, about you over here, 1170 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,320 Speaker 2: But he's gotta he's gonna look at the meat futures. 1171 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:30,520 Speaker 5: Cheez. 1172 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:35,520 Speaker 2: He's wearing cowboy boots, now duster. It's unbelievable. 1173 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 4: Good lord, good load, good load. I'll tell you what 1174 00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:45,440 Speaker 4: insane loss. Insane loss justin Jefferson thirty yards. I mean, 1175 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,000 Speaker 4: he is gonna end up being a value in fantasy 1176 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,240 Speaker 4: next year because people are gonna just be scared. 1177 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:51,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yep. 1178 00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:56,759 Speaker 5: Finally, on Christmas Day, Broncos twenty Chiefs thirteen and what 1179 00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,560 Speaker 5: could be Travis Kelcey's final game at Arrowhead O Bishop. 1180 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,839 Speaker 2: I did not watch a single second of this thing. 1181 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:09,919 Speaker 2: Nothing zero, I can't tell you. I just think there's 1182 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:11,919 Speaker 2: a lot of bad ball. You mentioned that quarterback play 1183 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:16,200 Speaker 2: from bossmer Ola Duccin, whoever the heck you say his name, 1184 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:21,200 Speaker 2: Ola Duca, Ola Dukein, okay Ola Dukein thirteen of twenty 1185 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:26,240 Speaker 2: two for sixty six yards. This is the National Football 1186 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 2: League bad ball, bad ball. 1187 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,960 Speaker 4: It might be Ola Dokin whatever. I think Dukein is 1188 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,640 Speaker 4: more fun. Yeah, I like duke better too. 1189 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:39,279 Speaker 5: Not good is what it is. 1190 00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:43,560 Speaker 4: At South Florida, Sanford and South Dakota State seven. John 1191 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,000 Speaker 4: Crack of the Steelers in the twenty twenty two draft 1192 00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:46,800 Speaker 4: Jack Rabbits. 1193 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,560 Speaker 2: They won the national title a couple of years ago. Yeah, 1194 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 2: maybe they had Ola duke In power. 1195 00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 5: To Saturday's games. The Texans have won eight in a row. 1196 00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:57,320 Speaker 2: Quietly. 1197 00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,080 Speaker 5: They are as hot as any team in the National 1198 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,680 Speaker 5: Football League of it in five and they beat the 1199 00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,759 Speaker 5: Chargers twenty to Sixteen's. 1200 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,279 Speaker 4: The girl one thought they don't play what I would 1201 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:11,800 Speaker 4: call an exciting brand of football. Do the Houston Texans. 1202 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,719 Speaker 4: But right now their defense is stifling and scary. 1203 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,120 Speaker 2: And you know C. J. 1204 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,240 Speaker 4: Shroud's been in the playoffs before, He's won in the 1205 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:23,520 Speaker 4: playoffs before. They're they're gonna be a tough out. I 1206 00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,720 Speaker 4: don't think people really are interested in the war of 1207 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:30,080 Speaker 4: attrition that it is to play against that football team. 1208 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:32,920 Speaker 2: Just from the other side of it too. Like it 1209 00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:37,680 Speaker 2: is pretty amazing how much Justin Herbert had on his 1210 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:41,840 Speaker 2: shoulders this year with the Chargers. They tried to get 1211 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,919 Speaker 2: the run game going. They drafted Hampton, they got better 1212 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:49,600 Speaker 2: with Val with me, I think you're probably right. They 1213 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,000 Speaker 2: really don't have any weapons at receiver yet they went 1214 00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,880 Speaker 2: eleven and five and they're in the mix and so 1215 00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,680 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think Houston could win the AFC. I 1216 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,360 Speaker 2: really think they're good enough to win the. 1217 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:04,440 Speaker 5: The amazing thing for the Chargers they are five and 1218 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:08,960 Speaker 5: oh in their division, not wild. They played Denver on Sunday. 1219 00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,080 Speaker 5: They're not going to play Herbert, but they are five 1220 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:16,400 Speaker 5: and oh the AFC West. The other game on Saturday night, 1221 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,600 Speaker 5: the Ravens keep their hopes alive. They go to Lambeau 1222 00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,680 Speaker 5: and win forty one to twenty four. 1223 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:29,120 Speaker 2: Bobushit one thought, Yeah, I think in a I think 1224 00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,280 Speaker 2: this is the one that when we get to the combine, 1225 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 2: a lot of people are going to be talking about. 1226 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,600 Speaker 2: Malik Willis in this game went eighteen to twenty one 1227 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 2: for two eighty eight. Every time he's played for the 1228 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,680 Speaker 2: Packers the last two years, he has looked very very good. 1229 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,240 Speaker 2: People thought highly of him in the draft process coming 1230 00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:48,360 Speaker 2: out of Liberty, didn't work out in Tennessee again, goes 1231 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:52,560 Speaker 2: to a laflora McVeigh, a Shanahan and O'Connell, gets made 1232 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:56,240 Speaker 2: whole again and looks really competent. Sam the Green Bay 1233 00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,480 Speaker 2: Packers who are who are swooning right now to say 1234 00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,440 Speaker 2: the least, but that is going to that could be 1235 00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 2: a massive chip for them if they want to put 1236 00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,240 Speaker 2: him on the market before the combine. 1237 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:06,919 Speaker 5: The week before he looked good against the Bear. 1238 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:08,920 Speaker 2: He sure did, and I think he's a really good player. 1239 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:10,760 Speaker 2: Like I think, I think they could net a lot 1240 00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:11,520 Speaker 2: in return for him. 1241 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,440 Speaker 4: He is number one in EPA per dropback over the 1242 00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:15,720 Speaker 4: last two years in the NFL. 1243 00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:22,120 Speaker 2: Derrick Henry, I forgot he played for Baltimore. 1244 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:26,120 Speaker 4: Thirty six, so sixteen and four, one week after they 1245 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,040 Speaker 4: didn't even have him in on the final drive because 1246 00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,280 Speaker 4: of some rotation nonsense. He's run for one hundred yards 1247 00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,440 Speaker 4: and three straight games with six touchdowns during that span. 1248 00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:38,360 Speaker 4: Derick Henry has an opportunity. He is thirty one yards away. Wait, 1249 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,680 Speaker 4: hold on, so you have his season stats? Can we 1250 00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,760 Speaker 4: do a guess the scats? Because I think most people 1251 00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,960 Speaker 4: think Derek Henry is having a quiet year. Okay, what 1252 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,560 Speaker 4: do you think Derek Henry has rushing yards right now? 1253 00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,400 Speaker 4: For the room in there, going into week eighteen. 1254 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,200 Speaker 5: I would say he's at twelve hundred and change. 1255 00:59:56,320 --> 01:00:03,680 Speaker 2: How many touchdowns eleven and yards per carry? 1256 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:08,560 Speaker 5: Oh god, I come on, man, that's too much, too fuchs, 1257 01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,000 Speaker 5: you give me the two that give me. 1258 01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:18,360 Speaker 2: Fourteen sixty nine. That's sixteen touchdowns, five yards of carry, 1259 01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:22,040 Speaker 2: five point one. That's right. I thought I wouldn't have 1260 01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,280 Speaker 2: known that. It's no. 1261 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,320 Speaker 4: The last three have really kind of I mean, that's 1262 01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:30,360 Speaker 4: on the meal, the last three alone, he's got four 1263 01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:31,760 Speaker 4: forty four and six. 1264 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:32,760 Speaker 2: Cheeze. 1265 01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:40,640 Speaker 4: Here's the thing, Derrick Henry is thirty one yards away 1266 01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,240 Speaker 4: from having fifteen hundred total yard, fifteen hundred rushing yards 1267 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,400 Speaker 4: and in this case, sixteen touchdowns fifteen or more touchdowns 1268 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,200 Speaker 4: for the seconds. He will have the second such season 1269 01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:55,760 Speaker 4: in his thirties. Nobody else in the history of the 1270 01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 4: game has won such season. 1271 01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,520 Speaker 5: Remember when we said he was We thought he was 1272 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:00,760 Speaker 5: done like three years ago. 1273 01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, coming off that four point two yards of carry 1274 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:04,600 Speaker 4: in Tennessee, you sure did. 1275 01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:08,520 Speaker 2: Where all right? Where is he? 1276 01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 3: Like? 1277 01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:15,720 Speaker 2: Where is he? All time rushing? He's twelve, twelve and 1278 01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:16,280 Speaker 2: ninety two. 1279 01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:24,160 Speaker 4: He is the active leader in carries, yards, touchdowns, touches 1280 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:28,240 Speaker 4: and yards from scrimmage, and total touchdowns. Active leader total 1281 01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:33,360 Speaker 4: fifteen thousand total yard, one hundred and twenty seven total touchdowns. Man, 1282 01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:34,760 Speaker 4: he's only played ten years. 1283 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:36,800 Speaker 2: He's only first team All Pro once. 1284 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,400 Speaker 4: That's insane, Second team All Pro twice. He's been the 1285 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:44,520 Speaker 4: Offensive Player of the Year. He's been in the Offensive 1286 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,960 Speaker 4: Player of the Year voting three different times. He's been 1287 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:48,520 Speaker 4: in the top ten of the MVP once. 1288 01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's that's crazy. He had that low. 1289 01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:54,960 Speaker 4: He started off with one sixty nine, and then he 1290 01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,120 Speaker 4: went for twenty three against US fifty against Detroit, forty 1291 01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:01,000 Speaker 4: two against Kansas City, thirty three against Houston, and then 1292 01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,160 Speaker 4: they kind of got him going one twenty two, seventy one, 1293 01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 4: one nineteen seventy five, one oh three, sixty four, sixty 1294 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:07,280 Speaker 4: ninety four, one hundred and twenty eight. 1295 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:11,360 Speaker 2: Two sixteen to sixteen old. That'll bump your numbers. It 1296 01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:12,840 Speaker 2: helps in a hurry. 1297 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:15,640 Speaker 3: Up. 1298 01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:20,000 Speaker 5: Next to the Sunday early game, Seahawks twenty seven Panthers 1299 01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:20,800 Speaker 5: Ten's a girl. 1300 01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:21,280 Speaker 2: One thought. 1301 01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,280 Speaker 4: I was surprised by the Panthers in this one, to 1302 01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:26,680 Speaker 4: be honest with you, I thought that they were going 1303 01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 4: to be a little bit more game as it were, 1304 01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,720 Speaker 4: uh in this one, and to put up ten points 1305 01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:34,920 Speaker 4: at home. They had the guy who you know changes 1306 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,200 Speaker 4: his jerseys ended up on Good Morning Football. Was actually 1307 01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:41,920 Speaker 4: a pretty funny interview. Luca got a kick out of that. Yeah, disappointing. 1308 01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:43,800 Speaker 4: I think game. If you are the Panthers, this is 1309 01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,080 Speaker 4: one where you had an opportunity. Now I know McMillan 1310 01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:47,840 Speaker 4: was a little bit banged up, but Bryce Young goes 1311 01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,080 Speaker 4: fourteen to twenty four for fifty four yards. 1312 01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,520 Speaker 2: Crazy. Have you ever seen did you see what happened 1313 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,120 Speaker 2: at the end of this game? So they were they're 1314 01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:59,439 Speaker 2: down obviously twenty seven to ten, they're taking a knee. Yeah, 1315 01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,400 Speaker 2: there's that's like Carolina just was taken a knee, Like, 1316 01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,560 Speaker 2: I never seen that for the team that's losing. Usually 1317 01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,640 Speaker 2: you throw it around and keep trying to do something. Bench, 1318 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,040 Speaker 2: the quarterback, play, the backup, whatever. No, no, no, they 1319 01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:10,840 Speaker 2: just took a knee. 1320 01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,040 Speaker 4: That's it, Like, we'll see it next week, next week 1321 01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:18,160 Speaker 4: in Tampa and Seattle right now. Feels a little stagnant 1322 01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:18,720 Speaker 4: on offense. 1323 01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:22,560 Speaker 2: They are, but they're also defensively. They're not that defensively. 1324 01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:27,040 Speaker 2: They're elite, yes, so that, but they are stagnant offensively. 1325 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:27,439 Speaker 2: It's weird. 1326 01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:29,320 Speaker 4: They gave got rid, they had the big game against 1327 01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,160 Speaker 4: the Rams. Actually, I guess they really haven't been That 1328 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,000 Speaker 4: feels rude. I take it back. 1329 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:34,680 Speaker 2: They rally. 1330 01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,800 Speaker 4: Since the bye week, they've scored thirty eight forty four, 1331 01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:41,840 Speaker 4: nineteen thirty, twenty six, thirty seven, eighteen, thirty eight, twenty seven. 1332 01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,800 Speaker 5: Their point differential. This year, they've outscored their opponents by 1333 01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:46,479 Speaker 5: a total of one hundred and eighty one per. 1334 01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:47,680 Speaker 2: All right, I take that back, smizing. 1335 01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, our guy Jeff Howard on that Seattle defensive staff, 1336 01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,000 Speaker 4: that's right, that. 1337 01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:54,800 Speaker 5: Is right, elite fashion guru. 1338 01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:56,520 Speaker 2: He's a fine man. 1339 01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:02,920 Speaker 5: Next Bengals thirty seven, Cardinals fourteen, real quick Bobashit. 1340 01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,760 Speaker 2: It's funny like the Cincinnati Bengals for the second straight 1341 01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:07,680 Speaker 2: year at the end of the season when there was 1342 01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,160 Speaker 2: nothing to play for, playing as good as anybody offensively, 1343 01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:12,120 Speaker 2: Like where was all of this? 1344 01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:12,800 Speaker 6: Yeah? 1345 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:18,000 Speaker 2: So many times, you know, like if you look, there's 1346 01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,600 Speaker 2: so many instances where it's like, okay, now go win 1347 01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,040 Speaker 2: five in a row. You have all this offensive firepower, 1348 01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,400 Speaker 2: and they just couldn't do it. Even with burrowback, they 1349 01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:29,080 Speaker 2: couldn't do it. Lost the Bills and Ravens. They had 1350 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:32,480 Speaker 2: a chance and just couldn't do it. So it's it's 1351 01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,080 Speaker 2: just a waste of an all time quarterback. It's what's 1352 01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:36,920 Speaker 2: happening down there. It's just an absolute waste. 1353 01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,560 Speaker 4: Something was just funky though about them Early in the 1354 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,480 Speaker 4: season too, Chase Brown was terrible. They couldn't run. All 1355 01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:45,120 Speaker 4: of a sudden, he's running great. Yeah, there's something just 1356 01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:46,440 Speaker 4: was weird about. 1357 01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:47,600 Speaker 2: What was going on with them. 1358 01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:49,919 Speaker 4: And now they clearly have got it unlocked and they've 1359 01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:53,280 Speaker 4: figured it out, and yeah, they are electric right now. 1360 01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:54,640 Speaker 2: Electric. Yeah. 1361 01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:56,520 Speaker 4: Did you guys all see the clip of Joe Flacco 1362 01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:58,000 Speaker 4: or it looked like he was frozen in time? 1363 01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:00,200 Speaker 2: Like what was going on I don't know, see what 1364 01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask about. Burro's making face yeah, and he's 1365 01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:06,520 Speaker 2: just like, look at this just frozen. I don't know. 1366 01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,640 Speaker 4: It'll be good to see Joe flackomix about that. 1367 01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:11,840 Speaker 5: Next. 1368 01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,680 Speaker 2: Who scored g Man Big Gabby's back? 1369 01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,640 Speaker 4: Marson Arsenal, You must have just put the ball in 1370 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:21,480 Speaker 4: a clever touch to the upper ninety. 1371 01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:27,200 Speaker 5: Zigurg one thought Jaggs twenty three, Colt seventeen. The Jags 1372 01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:27,800 Speaker 5: are for real. 1373 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,800 Speaker 4: They were kind of toying around with these guys a 1374 01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,000 Speaker 4: little bit and then put the hammer down. Trevor Lawrence 1375 01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:37,040 Speaker 4: is playing like the guy that he was supposed to be. 1376 01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:39,800 Speaker 2: His nickname. Believe it's what says I'm Pro Football Reference. 1377 01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:41,480 Speaker 2: I never don't remember ever hearing this, but the prince 1378 01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:43,520 Speaker 2: it was promised. No, I don't know about it. 1379 01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:47,280 Speaker 4: He's playing like that, and he's doing it not just 1380 01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,160 Speaker 4: with his arm, but with his legs as well. Two 1381 01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,760 Speaker 4: more rushing touchdowns in this one. He now has a 1382 01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,840 Speaker 4: rushing touchdown in each of the last three games. He 1383 01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,160 Speaker 4: has produced over the last three games for them a 1384 01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:06,400 Speaker 4: grand total of twelve total touchdowns with one giveaway. 1385 01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,320 Speaker 2: That feels pretty good. That is pretty good and a 1386 01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,280 Speaker 2: big what if for Indy, Like what if Danny Dimes 1387 01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,880 Speaker 2: does to get hurt? Yeah, big collapse because they had 1388 01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,320 Speaker 2: the biggest differential in the league. Yeah, they were rolling. 1389 01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:18,080 Speaker 2: They were one of the stories of the league. Danny 1390 01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:19,960 Speaker 2: Dimes gets hurt, never the same. 1391 01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,240 Speaker 4: And supposedly they're going with Leonard over Rivers. So that's 1392 01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:24,840 Speaker 4: it comes back, goes over three. 1393 01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,640 Speaker 2: I saw somebody making a comment about now he's on 1394 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:29,960 Speaker 2: the NFL insurance for another five years. Yeah he is. 1395 01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,440 Speaker 4: That's huge with twelve kids, that's what they said that 1396 01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:33,920 Speaker 4: the people say that's one of the reasons they think 1397 01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:34,760 Speaker 4: that he came back. 1398 01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, like you start paying out a pocket for twelve kids, 1399 01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:38,560 Speaker 2: good luck? 1400 01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:43,840 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah. Uh next Dolphins twenty Tampa Bay seventeen. 1401 01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:48,560 Speaker 2: Oh well, this we all saw coming. Both of us 1402 01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:53,440 Speaker 2: picked Miami to win this game. Mike McDaniel had some 1403 01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,760 Speaker 2: comments this week that led me to believe that sticking 1404 01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:58,800 Speaker 2: with Tua all that time was it maybe always his 1405 01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:03,920 Speaker 2: choice and maybe they have something in yours. There's the 1406 01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,520 Speaker 2: number one recruit coming out of college or high school. 1407 01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,880 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, the DNA's there, buddy. Yeah, I was surprised. 1408 01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:11,640 Speaker 4: He went as late as he did, just because of 1409 01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,360 Speaker 4: that fact that the DNA is there. Fourteen to twenty two, 1410 01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:17,560 Speaker 4: one seventy two, two touchdowns, no picks. He's played well, 1411 01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,640 Speaker 4: you know, Bake unfortunately three turnovers in this one, two 1412 01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:22,200 Speaker 4: interceptions he's lost to fumble late. 1413 01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:23,840 Speaker 2: I mean the stats were really good. 1414 01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,760 Speaker 4: Usually don't throw for three hundred and forty six yards 1415 01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:33,960 Speaker 4: and have multiple one hundred yard receivers and not not 1416 01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:36,680 Speaker 4: be able to score more than seventeen points. Also something 1417 01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,360 Speaker 4: that is needs to be studied or talked about or 1418 01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:43,640 Speaker 4: maybe you have more insight into it. But the mid 1419 01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:47,640 Speaker 4: season and then on swoon of a Mecca bucas. 1420 01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,000 Speaker 2: Well, I think it goes hand in hand with Bake wild. 1421 01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,400 Speaker 4: But like in this game, McMillan's got one hundred and fourteen, 1422 01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:55,000 Speaker 4: Godwin's got one hundred and eight and he's got three 1423 01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:56,240 Speaker 4: catches for twenty yards. 1424 01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that it's if you were to find 1425 01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:01,520 Speaker 2: a lot where it started to go. I mean just 1426 01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:06,240 Speaker 2: the targets wise too. It all fell off right around 1427 01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,920 Speaker 2: the time of the Bake when Bake got hurt. 1428 01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,920 Speaker 4: Up next by the way that he had when he 1429 01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:15,720 Speaker 4: got really targeted he delivered. 1430 01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:20,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike scored since oh, November the ninth. Oh, yeah, 1431 01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:21,040 Speaker 2: it's been free. 1432 01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:24,200 Speaker 4: He's been over in his last one, two, three, four, five, six, 1433 01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,920 Speaker 4: seven games. Abuka has been over fifty yards, receiving once 1434 01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:28,040 Speaker 4: and as zero tuddies. 1435 01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:29,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is wild. 1436 01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:35,320 Speaker 5: My one thought for the next one Patriots forty two 1437 01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:37,920 Speaker 5: Jets ten. Are we sure Aaron Glenn is safe? No, 1438 01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:40,639 Speaker 5: it's one year, but I don't think it's I didn't 1439 01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:42,719 Speaker 5: think we are right by any stretch. 1440 01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:45,960 Speaker 2: No. No, And it's the only thing would be Woody 1441 01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:49,120 Speaker 2: seems to really like him and maybe he'll keep him. Yeah, 1442 01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:52,240 Speaker 2: the kids satline in this one nineteen to twenty one 1443 01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:54,840 Speaker 2: for two, it's like two forty eight five touchdowns, no 1444 01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:58,479 Speaker 2: picks for Drake may not bad. By the way, he 1445 01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:01,760 Speaker 2: is to be the MVP this game. He's going to 1446 01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:02,040 Speaker 2: be right. 1447 01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,519 Speaker 4: There was not as close as the score would ended 1448 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:09,600 Speaker 4: New And it felt like if they wanted to beat them. 1449 01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,719 Speaker 2: Seventy seventy seventy five and nothing had happen. 1450 01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:13,600 Speaker 4: It was Yeah, they wanted to beat them. It was 1451 01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:15,160 Speaker 4: thirty five to three at the half. If they wanted 1452 01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,680 Speaker 4: to score seventy seven, they they could have scored any time. 1453 01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:21,160 Speaker 2: Total quit and he's a defensive coach. He's a defensive coach, 1454 01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,920 Speaker 2: and he's following me to freedom and total quit. 1455 01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:25,760 Speaker 4: Yep, all right, I'll give you guys a guest. So 1456 01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:29,600 Speaker 4: Aaron Glenn defensive coach, good defensive coach. Certainly was a 1457 01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,360 Speaker 4: DC you know at Detroit that went very well for him, there, 1458 01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:37,040 Speaker 4: dB guy, all through and through. How many interceptions do 1459 01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:40,440 Speaker 4: the New York Jets have this year as a team? 1460 01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:40,920 Speaker 3: Now? 1461 01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:44,439 Speaker 5: Are we counting sauce gardeners before counting sauce gardener? 1462 01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:45,479 Speaker 2: Four? 1463 01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:46,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1464 01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,160 Speaker 2: I think it's low, and only because the way you 1465 01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:50,599 Speaker 2: set it up, So just for fun, I would say 1466 01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:56,120 Speaker 2: seven for seven. Does young Gabriel want to have a 1467 01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:57,400 Speaker 2: go at quickly? 1468 01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:59,519 Speaker 5: We got to get guests, the scores, and a bunch 1469 01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:00,000 Speaker 5: of other stuff. 1470 01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:01,360 Speaker 3: What do you got? 1471 01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:06,000 Speaker 4: The answer is zero, no picks, zero, not a single 1472 01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:07,040 Speaker 4: interception this season. 1473 01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:10,120 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's ever happened before. Neither I 1474 01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:11,840 Speaker 2: don't either. That's nuts. 1475 01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:16,120 Speaker 5: They scored again. Arsenal's up to nothing. 1476 01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:18,400 Speaker 2: I mean it's called two nil. If I asked the 1477 01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,280 Speaker 2: fact that that the g Man has you now giving 1478 01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,400 Speaker 2: us Arsenal scores live on the show, it just tells 1479 01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:26,840 Speaker 2: you the amount of affection that you have. 1480 01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:29,360 Speaker 5: For I want you to know that at one point 1481 01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:33,200 Speaker 5: I was the I was the voice of Aston Villa. 1482 01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:36,000 Speaker 5: What yep, that's a story for another time. 1483 01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:37,000 Speaker 2: Wait or. 1484 01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:40,479 Speaker 5: Titans twenty sex. I'll make it quick. 1485 01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:44,639 Speaker 2: Shuck's really Good's a beast. He's a beast, and that's 1486 01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:46,479 Speaker 2: what you get. By the way. You get a great 1487 01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,880 Speaker 2: you get a young quarterback, talented receiver, offensive minding coach 1488 01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:51,240 Speaker 2: puts him in a position to succeed. 1489 01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,519 Speaker 4: And I also say this, cam Ward is has gotten 1490 01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,800 Speaker 4: significantly better as this season's gone on, and they need 1491 01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,200 Speaker 4: to get him some weapons to play with. 1492 01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,160 Speaker 5: Late Sunday window. We don't think we need to go 1493 01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:05,519 Speaker 5: too much into this Giants thirty four, Raiders ten when. 1494 01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,639 Speaker 2: We have more time. The Max Crosby stuff is interesting 1495 01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:08,519 Speaker 2: when we have time. 1496 01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:13,080 Speaker 5: I guess he was on with Jim Gray and their pod, 1497 01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:16,599 Speaker 5: you know the Brady podcast. I guess Max Crosby's on that. 1498 01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,720 Speaker 5: I have not seen it yet, but I guess he 1499 01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:28,719 Speaker 5: makes an appearance. Eagles thirteen, Bill's twelve, Nathan, I don't 1500 01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:29,439 Speaker 5: know what the Bills are. 1501 01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,200 Speaker 2: Josh miss two throw. He missed a throw on a 1502 01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:36,120 Speaker 2: two pointer to Khalilry never misses that, never misses that throw. 1503 01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:39,880 Speaker 2: He's been something's as strange as the last against US 1504 01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,519 Speaker 2: as well. I keep waiting for them. I mean, I 1505 01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,360 Speaker 2: think everyone's going to pick him to win the AFC, 1506 01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:48,840 Speaker 2: but it's just they don't seem right. Who are they 1507 01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:49,799 Speaker 2: matched up with currently? 1508 01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:54,679 Speaker 5: Rams No, No, I'm talking about Bill Bills. Bills would 1509 01:11:54,720 --> 01:12:02,519 Speaker 5: be Patriots, Patriots. Bill's Patriots, Yeah, I would be. I'd 1510 01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:05,599 Speaker 5: be skeptical, skeptical about the Bills right now. 1511 01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:12,440 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, Patrio, Yeah no, no, no, Patriots, Chargers, Bills, Jaguars, 1512 01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:16,960 Speaker 2: They'll win that and then Ravens Texans. It stands right now. 1513 01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:18,639 Speaker 4: I think the Texans would beat them. I think Texans 1514 01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:20,080 Speaker 4: would suffocate their offense right. 1515 01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:24,600 Speaker 2: Now based on Baltimore getting in Pittsburgh obviously. 1516 01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,479 Speaker 5: Finally Sunday night foosball in the best game of the 1517 01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:32,240 Speaker 5: week by far outside of Brown Steelers forty nine Ers 1518 01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:35,679 Speaker 5: forty two, Bears thirty eight Bishop. 1519 01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:39,080 Speaker 2: I just think both of those teams are really fun 1520 01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:40,840 Speaker 2: to be a fan of right now. How could they 1521 01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:42,840 Speaker 2: not be? San Francisco has been this way for a 1522 01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:46,360 Speaker 2: long time. Chicago fans have waited forever. It feels to 1523 01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,360 Speaker 2: me like where Chicago is right now is where Detroit 1524 01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,080 Speaker 2: was like three or four years ago, like on the 1525 01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:53,680 Speaker 2: cusp of it. And it's just a matter of can 1526 01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:57,839 Speaker 2: you take advantage of a true championship window. The difference 1527 01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,880 Speaker 2: is they have Caleb even younger then they got golf 1528 01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:04,160 Speaker 2: and they have even they have so much weaponry around him, 1529 01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:06,479 Speaker 2: and Caleb Salon is a rookie deal right right point, 1530 01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:08,920 Speaker 2: and they can spend it. Then they got it. Yeah, 1531 01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:10,960 Speaker 2: and now he's not going anywhere because he's the offensive 1532 01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:13,360 Speaker 2: genius yep. And because he's on the rookie deal, they 1533 01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:17,040 Speaker 2: can spend on everything else. Like they are in that spot, 1534 01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:19,000 Speaker 2: like them, and they're in a better spot than New England. 1535 01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,000 Speaker 2: I think May is better than Williams, but they're in 1536 01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,000 Speaker 2: a better spot than New England because they have all 1537 01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:24,240 Speaker 2: of this weaponry already. 1538 01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:28,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, they've got Bird in Loveland, d K Moore, Cole Comet, 1539 01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:31,040 Speaker 4: Roman Doon Day who we haven't seen a month, who 1540 01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,080 Speaker 4: was having a great year, Swift Monong guy Like, yeah, 1541 01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,759 Speaker 4: they are loaded up. They are fun and Ben Johnson's 1542 01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:36,360 Speaker 4: a fun coach. 1543 01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:37,160 Speaker 6: Yep. 1544 01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:40,439 Speaker 2: That is one thought from week seventeen in the National football. 1545 01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:42,599 Speaker 2: All right, doctor is able attempt to know the scores? 1546 01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:44,880 Speaker 2: Coming up? Next us to Cleveland Browns Daily on eight 1547 01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:45,799 Speaker 2: fifty ESPN. 1548 01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:54,479 Speaker 1: Cleifland, you're listening to Cleveland Browns Daily on eight to 1549 01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:59,120 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland presented by Balley Ben Sportsbook, an official 1550 01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:02,600 Speaker 1: sports betting part If you're Cleveland Browns, please bed responsibly. 1551 01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,720 Speaker 2: Elkin Elk Serrius Sawyer serious injury. He's called one eight 1552 01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:12,000 Speaker 2: hundred elk Ohio for a free case review. Elkin Elk's 1553 01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:16,519 Speaker 2: partner of your Cleveland Brown's. Time for the little segment 1554 01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:21,120 Speaker 2: we like to call Guess the scores with doctor Z. 1555 01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:25,960 Speaker 2: Last one week eighteen, we will start shock up another loss. 1556 01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:31,960 Speaker 2: We will start in the Saturday slate again on record. 1557 01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:37,519 Speaker 2: No reason to be doing this four o'clock Panthers at 1558 01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:44,120 Speaker 2: Bucks Fowler, Chris Fowler Orlowski, Riddick, Katie, George, Peter Schrager 1559 01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:45,479 Speaker 2: put six more people on. 1560 01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:48,799 Speaker 5: That following the Rose Bowl and then flying the Tampa 1561 01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:49,720 Speaker 5: Bay Goulds. 1562 01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:54,200 Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. So he's doing the rope? Is he not 1563 01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:55,439 Speaker 2: doing the Buckeye game? 1564 01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:56,080 Speaker 6: He is not. 1565 01:14:56,320 --> 01:15:01,360 Speaker 2: No who's on Buckeyes? keV Javid ash and uh Door 1566 01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:03,680 Speaker 2: I can't remember the guy's name right now, but it's 1567 01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:07,679 Speaker 2: past HERB Street and yes, there it is. So they're 1568 01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:09,720 Speaker 2: bailing on the better game because they've all loved the 1569 01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:13,439 Speaker 2: Rose Bowl so much. Yes, all right, okay, great Panthers at. 1570 01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:19,760 Speaker 4: Bucks uh Bucks minus two and a half? 1571 01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:22,959 Speaker 5: Yet it Hey, there you go, a little guy. 1572 01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:28,080 Speaker 2: He's ready. Seahawks start Niners again on ABC with Buck 1573 01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:31,040 Speaker 2: and Akman, Psalters and Rutledge the A team if you will. 1574 01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:36,040 Speaker 2: Niners minus three and a half. All right, it's Seahawks 1575 01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:37,439 Speaker 2: minus one and a half. And I'd like for you 1576 01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:40,479 Speaker 2: to explain it to me. I can't. I was only 1577 01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:42,439 Speaker 2: off by five points. I don't. I don't know. 1578 01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:44,639 Speaker 5: It doesn't make any sense at all. 1579 01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:50,760 Speaker 4: That means they're gonna win, it does, Yeah, Saints, that 1580 01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:53,160 Speaker 4: would be setting up for a bloodbath in Vegas, it would. 1581 01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:56,879 Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, I'm with you. I beat him in Seattle 1582 01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:00,800 Speaker 2: down early in the season. You'd know better than me. 1583 01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:02,680 Speaker 2: I was following the Rams closer than the Niners. But 1584 01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:11,240 Speaker 2: that makes sense. Sunday one o'clock Saints at Falcons. Oh, 1585 01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:13,240 Speaker 2: it's in Atlanta. Niners beat them. 1586 01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:15,920 Speaker 4: Week one of the regular seasons seventeen thirteen in seattles 1587 01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:18,920 Speaker 4: weird Niners have won six in a row than their 1588 01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:22,160 Speaker 4: dogs forty one, twenty six, thirty seven, forty eight, forty 1589 01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:23,320 Speaker 4: two and their dogs. 1590 01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:26,840 Speaker 2: So they clearly think Seattle is so. 1591 01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:28,960 Speaker 5: I would I mean they forgot that Seattle has Sam 1592 01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:32,000 Speaker 5: Darneld and when the game matters, I know Donald doesn't. 1593 01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:35,040 Speaker 2: Just doesn't forget that stuff. Man, Like that number makes 1594 01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:36,280 Speaker 2: no sense unless you could. 1595 01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,240 Speaker 4: Have given me one hundred yeses, I wouldn't have got 1596 01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:41,880 Speaker 4: that one right. Saints at foul Falcons minus three, Falcons minus. 1597 01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:42,200 Speaker 2: Three and a half. 1598 01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:44,880 Speaker 5: Got it the other way? 1599 01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:51,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, Browns at Bengals McCarthy, Logan, Ryan and valonas times 1600 01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:53,439 Speaker 2: usually with Ross Tucker, isn't he Yeah? 1601 01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:58,120 Speaker 5: Ross Tucker moved up. He's working with with Harlan. I 1602 01:16:58,120 --> 01:16:59,840 Speaker 5: don't know where Trent Green is. 1603 01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:05,120 Speaker 2: Melanie Collins for sure? Uh, Bengals minus seven and a half. 1604 01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:05,559 Speaker 6: Got it. 1605 01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:13,320 Speaker 2: All right. Packers at Vikings a spirodidas Anna Marchalletta combination. 1606 01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:15,320 Speaker 5: Does it make sense to put it on CBS in 1607 01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:15,760 Speaker 5: week eight? 1608 01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:19,640 Speaker 2: Packers minus five and a half, Vikings minus six and 1609 01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:23,960 Speaker 2: a half. Excuse me, probably your biggest miss ever. Wait 1610 01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,880 Speaker 2: a second, can't be right Vikings minus six and a half. 1611 01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:30,679 Speaker 2: So obviously they think the Panthers aren't trying, the Packers 1612 01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:34,040 Speaker 2: aren't trying. Is that the thought, right. 1613 01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:36,559 Speaker 5: Minus six and a half? 1614 01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:41,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? With Brosmur, Yeah, you only miss it by eleven. 1615 01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:47,160 Speaker 2: That's like I'm telling you, folks. That's why I can't 1616 01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,519 Speaker 2: blame him. I don't either. That's what people are going 1617 01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:52,519 Speaker 2: to start. Does that mean that they're not playing Willis 1618 01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:54,920 Speaker 2: either they're not being us. They must not be playing 1619 01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:58,920 Speaker 2: either of them. I mean Brosemur. They put up like 1620 01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:02,759 Speaker 2: a six take and put it favored by a touchdown plus, 1621 01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:07,280 Speaker 2: but they barely I know Cowboys at Giants, Kevin Coogler, 1622 01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:10,320 Speaker 2: Darryl Johnson, Allison Williams. Cowboys at Giants. 1623 01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,120 Speaker 4: By the way, I'm being told by somebody who scours 1624 01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:18,040 Speaker 4: the corners of Reddit that there's much more to the 1625 01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:22,600 Speaker 4: dig story than what the points that well. 1626 01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:24,120 Speaker 2: He would have more, E would have it at the ready, 1627 01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:29,240 Speaker 2: at the ready. Yes, I don't know anymore. I don't know. 1628 01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:30,759 Speaker 2: I have no idea. 1629 01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:34,599 Speaker 4: I don't know Cowboys Cowboys minus three. 1630 01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:36,800 Speaker 2: Oh, I want to give it to you it was 1631 01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:39,280 Speaker 2: three and a half. But how could you know? I mean, 1632 01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:42,960 Speaker 2: after what's transpired here today, the Vikings pack are you 1633 01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:50,600 Speaker 2: literally a million guess? The Titans at Jaguars Adam and 1634 01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:57,719 Speaker 2: Drew Brees and Christina pink Orangel. Titans at Jaguars Jags 1635 01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:01,400 Speaker 2: minus six and a half, minus twelve and a half. 1636 01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:06,160 Speaker 2: The Titans aren't that bad. How are they deciding like 1637 01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:09,400 Speaker 2: who's trying and who's not? The Titans aren't that bad. 1638 01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:10,000 Speaker 1: No, they're not. 1639 01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:12,760 Speaker 5: Colt Jag By the way, the Jags can get the 1640 01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:14,840 Speaker 5: number one seed in the AFC if so. 1641 01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:17,439 Speaker 2: That's what they're banking on. Is that Jackson built I 1642 01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:19,640 Speaker 2: pulled out. I gave it like a like, yeah, I 1643 01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:22,360 Speaker 2: thought it was fair. Yeah, I think that's crazy. Colts 1644 01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:27,040 Speaker 2: at Texans Iron Eagle, JJ watt Evan Washburn Texans minus 1645 01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:30,960 Speaker 2: fourteen ten and a half. That's lower. 1646 01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:33,479 Speaker 5: By the way, they're starting, Cults are starting Riley Leonard. 1647 01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:37,840 Speaker 2: They're starting Riley Leonard. The best thing you did against 1648 01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:39,479 Speaker 2: so highest state was just run into the pile. It 1649 01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:41,400 Speaker 2: just shows you how nuts oh the league is at 1650 01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:44,960 Speaker 2: this point in the season. Yeah, all right. By the way, 1651 01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,559 Speaker 2: well we don't have time. I'll save that for another day. 1652 01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:51,360 Speaker 2: Jets at Bill's Sunday four o'clock Jets at Bill's Andrew 1653 01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:54,840 Speaker 2: cattle On, Charles Davis, Jason mccordy, and aj Ross Bill 1654 01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,799 Speaker 2: Bill's minus fourteen and a half. So it's only seven? 1655 01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:01,439 Speaker 2: How is this not fourteen and a half? How is 1656 01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:04,679 Speaker 2: it only seven? I don't understand it. 1657 01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,240 Speaker 4: Just for I hold on a second, hold on, a second, 1658 01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:11,240 Speaker 4: hold on hold police. Yeah, the Patriots were just thirteen 1659 01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:12,880 Speaker 4: and a half point favorites. 1660 01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:15,400 Speaker 2: At the Jet the Joe a week ago. Right. The 1661 01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:17,639 Speaker 2: only thing I can think is because Buffalo can't really 1662 01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:21,439 Speaker 2: do anything. But yeah, I don't know. So if they're 1663 01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:24,200 Speaker 2: half as good as the Patriots, Patriots could card seventy. Yeah. Oh, 1664 01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:26,560 Speaker 2: I'm with you. Seven. I mean I'm off. This is 1665 01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:28,400 Speaker 2: the most I've ever been off. It's not your fault. 1666 01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:31,520 Speaker 2: It's the end of the year. Lions at Bears Burkhart, 1667 01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:33,280 Speaker 2: Brady Andrews and Ronaldi, Lions. 1668 01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:38,680 Speaker 5: At Bears by the Way? How ticked off? Or CBS 1669 01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:43,320 Speaker 5: and Fox quite? ESPN gets the doubleheader, NBC gets the 1670 01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:46,439 Speaker 5: Sunday night game, everybody else you get squat. 1671 01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,639 Speaker 2: You don't get a single game that matters in terms. 1672 01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:51,120 Speaker 5: Of this is discussed in the off season. 1673 01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,800 Speaker 4: Ye, Bears minus six and a half, Bears minus three? 1674 01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:58,080 Speaker 4: What the Lions just got smoked by the Vikings. 1675 01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:01,439 Speaker 5: None of it makes sense unless the Bears are resting 1676 01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:03,400 Speaker 5: people because they don't have anything left to play for. 1677 01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:08,200 Speaker 2: No, they are, they have I mean seating Chargers at Broncos. 1678 01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:11,120 Speaker 2: Chargers at Broncos. 1679 01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:14,920 Speaker 5: Yet reminder, uh, Herbert's not playing. 1680 01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:20,320 Speaker 2: Yes, Herbert is not playing, and that would be reflected, really, 1681 01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:24,040 Speaker 2: that would be known. Broncos minus seven and a half, 1682 01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:26,599 Speaker 2: Broncos mine is twelve and a half. Who's playing quarterback? 1683 01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:29,000 Speaker 2: Trey Lance? Trey Lance? Why is it Herbert? Just because 1684 01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:31,920 Speaker 2: there's the rest of it's broken? Just chilling him? Yeah, okay, 1685 01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:36,240 Speaker 2: Chiefs at Raiders, Chris Lewis, Kyle Long, and Tiffany Blackman. 1686 01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:39,599 Speaker 2: You know, Kyle Long, is it working at CBS? This 1687 01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:42,559 Speaker 2: is the worst game ever. Chiefs at Raiders. It's it's 1688 01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:45,960 Speaker 2: way Chiefs minus three and a half, five and a half. 1689 01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:49,760 Speaker 2: I'm done keeping track. Cardinals at Rams. I can't even 1690 01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:52,040 Speaker 2: get it within that. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no. Cardinals 1691 01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:57,880 Speaker 2: at Rams. Kenny Albert Jonathan Vilma on the call. Cardinals 1692 01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,280 Speaker 2: Rams minus ten and a half, Rams minus seven and 1693 01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:00,679 Speaker 2: a half. 1694 01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:03,400 Speaker 5: That game might mean something. 1695 01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:05,360 Speaker 4: Why would the Rams be favored the same at home 1696 01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:07,599 Speaker 4: against the Cardinals at the Bengals were I don't know, man, 1697 01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,120 Speaker 4: this is our This is Bengels were seven and a 1698 01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:10,920 Speaker 4: half last week. 1699 01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:12,559 Speaker 2: So the Bengals and the Rams are the same team. 1700 01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:17,360 Speaker 2: This is the Pepe Sylvia version of the scores, Charlie. 1701 01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:20,479 Speaker 2: All these people exist and they want their mail. Dolphins 1702 01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:25,639 Speaker 2: at Patriots Patriots minus seven and a half, Patriots minus 1703 01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:26,240 Speaker 2: ten and a half. 1704 01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:28,840 Speaker 5: I don't know why. 1705 01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:31,639 Speaker 4: That's ten Rams at home against the Cardinals is less 1706 01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:33,599 Speaker 4: than Patriots at home against the Dolphins. 1707 01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:38,880 Speaker 2: You nailed it. Commi's at Eagles. Here's Kevin Harlan ross ticker, 1708 01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:45,240 Speaker 2: Melanie Collins Eagles minus nine and a half. Seven. Finally, 1709 01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,759 Speaker 2: Ravens at a Steelers and these are nuts. It's nuts. 1710 01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:51,639 Speaker 2: Ravens at Steelers, Ravens minus three and a half. Nailed 1711 01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:56,160 Speaker 2: it the real game. You got the real football game. 1712 01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:58,240 Speaker 2: You actually went two and two and one on the 1713 01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:00,720 Speaker 2: real football games. Yeah, the real football games you were 1714 01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:03,840 Speaker 2: locked into, Buddy. I mean the Seahawks Niners one was wild. 1715 01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:06,519 Speaker 2: That's a wild number. 1716 01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:10,040 Speaker 5: The scores are how are we picking these on Friday? 1717 01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:12,599 Speaker 2: I don't know. Thankfully, we have another couple of days 1718 01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:13,479 Speaker 2: before we have time. 1719 01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:15,880 Speaker 4: I'll tell you something the scores this week where we'll 1720 01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:16,559 Speaker 4: call him middling. 1721 01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:18,240 Speaker 2: Here's what I would. I'm sorry, go ahead to me 1722 01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:19,880 Speaker 2: in ro go ahead, de floria yours. 1723 01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:23,400 Speaker 4: You were zero for six after six games, yeah, and 1724 01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:27,400 Speaker 4: finished respectably. I think you won seven. You went seven 1725 01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:30,200 Speaker 4: and three over the final ten. I was one in 1726 01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:34,360 Speaker 4: five through six games and then went eight and two 1727 01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:35,080 Speaker 4: in the last ten. 1728 01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:35,719 Speaker 2: Crazy. 1729 01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,000 Speaker 4: I mean, our start was as bad as it's every 1730 01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:42,519 Speaker 4: Nallice at Washington, Detroit, at Minnesota, Denver, and Kansas City 1731 01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:44,599 Speaker 4: lost loss loss loss loss. 1732 01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:46,560 Speaker 2: I got Houston. I want to make I want to 1733 01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:48,240 Speaker 2: make one other adjustment. 1734 01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:48,360 Speaker 3: Now. 1735 01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:50,320 Speaker 2: It didn't affect me because I was in a third 1736 01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,360 Speaker 2: place game, But I think the fantasy playoff has to 1737 01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:56,400 Speaker 2: start a week sooner. I think the super Bowl can't 1738 01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:59,679 Speaker 2: be last weekend because there was too much sitting, resting, 1739 01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:02,400 Speaker 2: non playing. I think fantasy super Bowls need to move 1740 01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:05,519 Speaker 2: up a whole week. I think you's where they used 1741 01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:07,280 Speaker 2: to be in a sixteen game season is week fifteen. 1742 01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:09,160 Speaker 2: That's where it should go back to. It should go 1743 01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:12,040 Speaker 2: back to week fifteen, like the here's the problem because 1744 01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:15,360 Speaker 2: there's too much. There's too much nonsense that happens the 1745 01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:18,400 Speaker 2: last two weeks. Here's the team's not trying, brossmers, all 1746 01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:21,360 Speaker 2: this nonsense. Here's the problem. Like I'm in a third 1747 01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:24,680 Speaker 2: place game, which matters for a couple hundred nothing, but 1748 01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:27,720 Speaker 2: the point of it is nothing. The point of it 1749 01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:33,760 Speaker 2: is a couple hundreds, like high fives. That's it, Blake Korum, 1750 01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:37,240 Speaker 2: I like, that's where I'm at because nobody else is playing. 1751 01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:39,799 Speaker 2: Did nobody goes back to playing? I needed seven points 1752 01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:42,360 Speaker 2: out of him and it didn't. I didn't care whatever not. 1753 01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:44,240 Speaker 2: I mean, he didn't do anything. But it's like it 1754 01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:46,280 Speaker 2: scored double digits three games in a row. Mile didn't 1755 01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:50,880 Speaker 2: not bad pickup, but like that happened. Like this consolation 1756 01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:54,000 Speaker 2: game was forty three to thirty eight. Here's the problem. 1757 01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:57,679 Speaker 2: The championship game was it was the same because nobody's playing. 1758 01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:00,120 Speaker 2: Here's the problem that you're gonna say the buys the 1759 01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:02,040 Speaker 2: buying week thirteen, you can have buy in the first 1760 01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:04,040 Speaker 2: round of the playoffs. Well, I don't know what to 1761 01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:07,560 Speaker 2: tell you, but it ain't it's not working this way. Yeah, 1762 01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:10,599 Speaker 2: because there's too many teams who punt, they punt on it. 1763 01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:13,120 Speaker 2: For nearly a century, the Rumki family has operated one 1764 01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:15,639 Speaker 2: of the nation's largest waste of recycling companies, providing top 1765 01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:18,880 Speaker 2: level services to residential commercial customers. To learn more how 1766 01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:20,920 Speaker 2: they can help you meet your sustainability goals, was at 1767 01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:24,360 Speaker 2: Rumky dot com to learn more. 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You're going to join 1774 01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:57,360 Speaker 2: Ze and Gerad tonight on the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns 1775 01:25:57,520 --> 01:25:58,439 Speaker 2: Radio Net. 1776 01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:01,640 Speaker 4: I was trying to go sixty minute it's with tar 1777 01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:03,760 Speaker 4: and Gibbet was like a thieving our joy. 1778 01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:05,680 Speaker 2: We were just rock. You could have done it. He 1779 01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:06,120 Speaker 2: had to be. 1780 01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:09,080 Speaker 4: Ultimately, there are five segments he had to be. He 1781 01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,240 Speaker 4: had to be escorted out of here, like we were 1782 01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:14,559 Speaker 4: just having too much fun and yeah, and they came 1783 01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:15,960 Speaker 4: in again. Him He's like, no, I got told two 1784 01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:19,559 Speaker 4: twenty he left here at two nineteen and forty eight seconds. 1785 01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:20,400 Speaker 5: That's about right. 1786 01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:25,280 Speaker 2: All right, Time for one final edition in twenty twenty 1787 01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:28,840 Speaker 2: five of college football, Nate and merely bow on our 1788 01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:32,000 Speaker 2: college football acumen. Hello, Gibbe. 1789 01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:34,479 Speaker 5: All right, we'll save the best for last. We'll start 1790 01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:37,840 Speaker 5: January first. We are off tomorrow and Thursday. Back with 1791 01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:41,040 Speaker 5: you on Friday. By the way, that's nice New Year's Day. 1792 01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:44,280 Speaker 5: Neon the Capitol One Orange Bowl on ESPN number five, Oregon, 1793 01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:49,400 Speaker 5: number four, Texas Tech. What say you, ducks? 1794 01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:52,280 Speaker 2: It is a criminal that the Orange Bowl game is 1795 01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:56,040 Speaker 2: played at noon? Yeah, Like, how dumb is all of 1796 01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:59,960 Speaker 2: this play it Friday night? That's like, come on, yep, 1797 01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:02,200 Speaker 2: that's what I grew up on. Yeah, the Orange Bowl 1798 01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:05,120 Speaker 2: should be at night. I think this is I think, honestly, 1799 01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:06,600 Speaker 2: like this might be the game of the whole, the 1800 01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:09,680 Speaker 2: whole group of them. And I think the score reflects that. 1801 01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:14,200 Speaker 2: I think Oregon wins a classic, but Texas Tech is legit, legit. 1802 01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:18,320 Speaker 5: At four o'clock it is the Rose Bowl, the Granddaddy 1803 01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:22,640 Speaker 5: of them all, presented by Prudential on ESPN number nine, Alabama, 1804 01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:24,480 Speaker 5: number one, Indiana. 1805 01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:28,439 Speaker 2: I'll go here I think if these uniforms were reversed, 1806 01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:31,840 Speaker 2: it would be like if the Indiana players were Alabama players, 1807 01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:33,800 Speaker 2: if that makes sense, and vice versa, it would be 1808 01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:36,720 Speaker 2: Alabama minus like thirteen and a half. But it's just 1809 01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:39,360 Speaker 2: because people won't respect. I think Indiana is better than 1810 01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:41,639 Speaker 2: it's two touchdowns. But I think they're better than Alabama, 1811 01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:43,160 Speaker 2: and I think they beat them. I have by more 1812 01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:43,679 Speaker 2: than seven. 1813 01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:49,799 Speaker 5: Sames's Sames's eight pm the All State Sugar Bowl on ESPN, 1814 01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:53,000 Speaker 5: Number six Old Miss, number three Georgia. 1815 01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:57,559 Speaker 2: It's the girl uhugha and almost another coach? What are 1816 01:27:57,560 --> 01:27:58,160 Speaker 2: you doing here? 1817 01:27:59,439 --> 01:27:59,639 Speaker 3: Guy? 1818 01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:04,600 Speaker 2: Was there? Coach? He's gone. He's Weiss's kid is the 1819 01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:08,439 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator at LSU. He's coordinating Ole Miss again, he's 1820 01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:11,000 Speaker 2: the current offensive coordinat This is how broken this sport is, 1821 01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:13,080 Speaker 2: yet it's still the second most popular. I'm going to 1822 01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:14,000 Speaker 2: get Georgia too. 1823 01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:18,680 Speaker 5: New Year's Eve Tomorrow night, seventh, thirty. No way, no 1824 01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:22,439 Speaker 5: better way to ring in twenty twenty six than with 1825 01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:25,439 Speaker 5: number ten Miami and number two Ohio State for the 1826 01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:29,240 Speaker 5: first time since the Buckeyes won a national championship over Miami. 1827 01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:32,400 Speaker 2: Biggest game Miami's played since that game. I think it's 1828 01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:35,120 Speaker 2: right on it. I think I think it's like twenty 1829 01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:37,360 Speaker 2: four to fourteen, twenty four to thirteen, something like that. 1830 01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:42,240 Speaker 2: I think it's right on it. Buck guys, future national champions. 1831 01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:43,360 Speaker 3: Huge. 1832 01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:46,679 Speaker 2: There you o kids, We will see you in twenty 1833 01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:49,280 Speaker 2: twenty six. Thanks for liverting. 1834 01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:49,479 Speaker 6: Into the boots. 1835 01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:49,880 Speaker 3: Thank you. 1836 01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:52,720 Speaker 2: He appreciates the parent animal. He's on a flight. 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