Speaker 1: The Nicky Glazer Podcast. Nils here, Nikky, Hello here I am.
Speaker 1: It's the Nikki Gla Podcast. Welcome to the show. It
Speaker 1: is Wednesday's day. I'm in St. Louis, Missouri with Andrew Colin.
Speaker 1: What's going on? Is there a different look going on
Speaker 1: here today? Did you get a haircut? But there's something
Speaker 1: else too? I thought I got used to the mustache,
Speaker 1: but something looks different. Really? No boots, shoels, Andrew Jackson sandals.
Speaker 1: You've got some flippies, some flippy floppy, some reefs. You know,
Speaker 1: it's getting ninety degrees out. I forget how hot it
Speaker 1: is outside because it's so cold up in this bitch.
Speaker 1: I walk out there, I'm like Jesus Christ, it's too hot.
Speaker 1: It is getting really hot. I mean it's scary. Things
Speaker 1: aren't looking good. Look you get to boil and egg
Speaker 1: out there or whatever have you? You? Um, what do
Speaker 1: you do yesterday? After the pod? No? Before the I
Speaker 1: don't know. And are you stalling to think by saying
Speaker 1: after the that's like when people go that's a really
Speaker 1: good question. Can I have a minute? Is actually being honest?
Speaker 1: Can I have thirty second? Can I have seven seconds?
Speaker 1: That's being honest saying that's a good question when you're waiting,
Speaker 1: when you're trying to figure out what to say, that's
Speaker 1: the one stalling and trying to Yeah, you know, that
Speaker 1: is a really good question. Why I was texting that
Speaker 1: other girl. I'm really glad you asked that. It's interesting
Speaker 1: you say that, yeah before the pod, because I was
Speaker 1: thinking about that after the pod. Um. It is interesting though,
Speaker 1: when you do listen to somebody's podcasts and they speaks
Speaker 1: so slow, I don't know it. Let's try to speak slow.
Speaker 1: What do you think would happen? Like, like, let's try
Speaker 1: so ask me that question, Andrew, what do you do yesterday?
Speaker 1: M Yeah, it's interesting you asked that. Um, you know
Speaker 1: the times you know we're in now it's tough to
Speaker 1: really do anything with gas prices going through the roofs.
Speaker 1: Here's the problem. Why do we talk fast is because
Speaker 1: we're not smart. We're not smart. Yeah, or because we
Speaker 1: are smart. We're not smart. So we talk fast because
Speaker 1: people the information we're giving is not that dense and
Speaker 1: it doesn't have a lot in it. So if we
Speaker 1: it's the same reason I do four podcasts a week,
Speaker 1: then no one can go your podcast sucks, and I go, well,
Speaker 1: I give it to four times a week, motherfucker. Whereas
Speaker 1: if someone was like, no one can tell, but don't
Speaker 1: you think some of your points that are actually dense
Speaker 1: and are smart because I think down down post No,
Speaker 1: I just showed on my talking and I go listen.
Speaker 1: I think that this, like I have a more deliberate tone,
Speaker 1: but when we're just saying stupid shit, it's just like,
Speaker 1: I know it's hard because I listened to Sam Harris
Speaker 1: on one speed. I don't speed him up. I listen
Speaker 1: to Conan one point to five. Sometimes I gotta slow
Speaker 1: down because he's just so fast. But like the more
Speaker 1: comedy and comedic and easy going, it is the faster
Speaker 1: I wanted to be. Um. I think people who talk
Speaker 1: slow either do it so that they can be understood
Speaker 1: and they're trying to make a good point, or they
Speaker 1: are narcissists. Oh and they're just their time is not
Speaker 1: your time. I'm definitely have narcissistic tendencies. There's no fucking
Speaker 1: question about it. I really do constantly consider how I
Speaker 1: don't think people. Um, I'm always considering how other people
Speaker 1: probably don't want to be listening to me as much
Speaker 1: as I do put out stuff to be listened to,
Speaker 1: I'm chronically talk like doing things to avoid someone going
Speaker 1: you suck, and then saying, well, that's why I do.
Speaker 1: That's why it works so much. I realized it's because
Speaker 1: when I put out one thing, everything is on at
Speaker 1: one thing. But if I do a ton of stuff,
Speaker 1: I can go. I'm so busy. That's why it's bad.
Speaker 1: I always have an out or if you know my
Speaker 1: my stand up show, that's why I do a meet
Speaker 1: and greet afterwards, because I want people to get something
Speaker 1: out of it that literally they couldn't get anywhere else,
Speaker 1: which is I know what I'm I'm I know I'm
Speaker 1: good at stand up, but what I'm best at is
Speaker 1: being personable with people and making them feel seen in
Speaker 1: a way that I if I was meeting the Dixie
Speaker 1: Chicks like I did in would have liked them to
Speaker 1: have met me. When I met the Dixie Chicks, you
Speaker 1: just walked in and stood behind their chairs and didn't
Speaker 1: say anything to them and just snapped a picture and
Speaker 1: then moved on. And so I just I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm constantly aware that, um, I'm probably not enough. It's
Speaker 1: low self esteem. I realized that I obviously do sometimes
Speaker 1: have self high self esteem, but and then sometimes you
Speaker 1: self distraught. I do it too, Yeah, but but then
Speaker 1: why if you're so worried about that, But then you
Speaker 1: also then will lean into things where you're like it
Speaker 1: comes across like yourn like fun it all, say whatever
Speaker 1: the hell I want, um, Because then also because I
Speaker 1: know I'm right in those times if I'm on my
Speaker 1: vegan so bad, well that was out of curs for
Speaker 1: people being like, shut up, bitch. But I'm still gonna
Speaker 1: say it because I know that it's a difference between
Speaker 1: knowing I'm right and knowing I'm talented. Like I questioned
Speaker 1: my talent all the time. I always feel like an impostor.
Speaker 1: And I know this is like hard to hear for
Speaker 1: people who are like but I'm a huge fan of yours.
Speaker 1: If Taylor Swift said she wasn't talented, I might be
Speaker 1: like a little bit hurt, Like you think your ship
Speaker 1: but I think you're a god. Um, every single talented
Speaker 1: person thinks they're not talented secretly, even you know, everyone
Speaker 1: who listened to this has has impostor syndrome. I have
Speaker 1: it too, And um, I think that though I I
Speaker 1: but when it comes to veganism, that's what I always say.
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna get this is I'm talking about veganism,
Speaker 1: not about it. I'm not gonna go on a rant.
Speaker 1: I'm just touching on it. I just know I'm right.
Speaker 1: So there's no I have no impostor syndrome of like
Speaker 1: that is as right as you know, should I kick
Speaker 1: my dog or not kick my dog? That to me
Speaker 1: is like there's just no there's no moral argument to
Speaker 1: be had, like it's done, Like the argument's done and
Speaker 1: so and there's so few things in life that I'm
Speaker 1: so sure of that, and that's probably one of the
Speaker 1: only things I'm sure of that. And I'm sure that
Speaker 1: I'm not as talented as people think I am. But
Speaker 1: then sometimes I do think I'm really talented. Do you
Speaker 1: ever get like really caught like the look in the
Speaker 1: mirror and I'm like, you're the hot Like Amy used
Speaker 1: to have a joke about this where she's like, do
Speaker 1: you ever like look in the mirror and you're like,
Speaker 1: I'm a fucking model, Like she used to have a joke.
Speaker 1: And so I don't want to even say anything that
Speaker 1: sounds like I'm ripping that off, but I really do
Speaker 1: relate to that of like sometimes I definitely and like
Speaker 1: I'm one of the most talented people ever, I'm one
Speaker 1: of the hottest people ever. Like I feel so good
Speaker 1: and I can feel the opposite of that within minutes.
Speaker 1: I think our brains are similar in regards to one
Speaker 1: how we feel about ourselves depending on how we're actually feeling,
Speaker 1: like internally, you know what I mean, Like, I think
Speaker 1: depending on our mood, even before we start to think
Speaker 1: about how talented we are and my sad that day,
Speaker 1: my depressed that day, depending on your emotional stage. But
Speaker 1: like at least me to like one morning, I could
Speaker 1: wake up thinking I'm a brilliant comedian. The next day
Speaker 1: I can't even think because and then in regards to
Speaker 1: look all emotional, I literally like I have dys morphia
Speaker 1: a little bit of the face where I'll look at
Speaker 1: the mirror and I'll go, you're a handsome man. And
Speaker 1: then literally the next morning, when I had a little
Speaker 1: bit of soy the night before, my face starts going
Speaker 1: I look puffier and maybe I am. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but do I know? But that is the thing, do
Speaker 1: I look. We all have a body to morphia because
Speaker 1: we're all seeing pictures of ourselves that are not what
Speaker 1: we see in the mirror. When you look in the mirror,
Speaker 1: you seeing a the image that you're looking at. Your
Speaker 1: eyes are on the different side than when in a picture,
Speaker 1: so you're it's a flip. It's if we flipped every photograph,
Speaker 1: it would match more accurately what you see in the mirror.
Speaker 1: But we are you know, we're not symmetrical. So we're
Speaker 1: all seeing this image in the mirror and we're used
Speaker 1: to it, and then we look at a picture and
Speaker 1: we're like, what the hell is that? And it's because
Speaker 1: it's at a different angle that we're not used to.
Speaker 1: Even if it's straight on, it is not oriented to
Speaker 1: what our face looks like. Ter to day, I was
Speaker 1: on Instagram live and doing uh, just doing wacky filters
Speaker 1: that they have on there, and I did the one
Speaker 1: that's like a buddy nose, and then the rest of
Speaker 1: your face gets like sucked in, bigger eyes, smooth skin,
Speaker 1: small nose, well no, no, no no, the nose is a
Speaker 1: rabbit nose, but still smaller than mine. Um, like pink cheeks.
Speaker 1: It just becomes and then you get used to that
Speaker 1: and you're like, I'm fucking stunt. The smallest little things
Speaker 1: that you can't even they're imperceptible that it's people were
Speaker 1: logging on not having known that I was doing this
Speaker 1: other filter, and they're like, you look so pretty, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, it changed my face shape. You guys, like
Speaker 1: we're being lined to constantly about what we look like,
Speaker 1: and even with our own eyes. There's this crazy thing,
Speaker 1: crazy crazy thing that I came across on Reddit that
Speaker 1: is not able to I cannot do it on the podcast.
Speaker 1: It would be like not interesting radio at all or
Speaker 1: even for the video podcast. But they have it's this
Speaker 1: weird phenomenon that is almost related to what we're talking about,
Speaker 1: where they have that you look at a cross hatch
Speaker 1: like a square, you know, like um, you know, across
Speaker 1: in the middle of this screen. It's like two lines,
Speaker 1: you know, an access and then on both sides there
Speaker 1: are faces, normal looking faces that just like flip and
Speaker 1: switch to different faces, just all different faces and their
Speaker 1: normal looking and you just stare at the center and
Speaker 1: like on the right and left of the faces, but
Speaker 1: they're in your periphery and you just stare and then
Speaker 1: they keep changing and within four seconds they start looking
Speaker 1: like aliens. They start looking like monsters with big teeth
Speaker 1: and big googly eyes and crazy like weird eyebrows, Like
Speaker 1: it looks like there are monsters all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: and then you you go, no way, are these the
Speaker 1: face The faces are definitely changing to monsters. They're normal people,
Speaker 1: and it is so well. Some people in the comments
Speaker 1: said that perhaps it's because when we cannot see what
Speaker 1: is next, when we are in a position where we
Speaker 1: cannot tell what is coming at us or what kind
Speaker 1: of threats there are, where we can't get a good
Speaker 1: look at it, we see the worst just in order
Speaker 1: to alarm us enough to you know, air on the
Speaker 1: side of that thing is going to come get us.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I said, so many people you would think
Speaker 1: it is so insane how these faces look. They look
Speaker 1: like Picasso and like that. I mean it's called some
Speaker 1: kind of effect, you know, a scientific effect. But I mean,
Speaker 1: do you think kids nowadays, because of filters, like their
Speaker 1: reality ever since they're five years old, is filled like
Speaker 1: is fucking with like changing your face whatever, And it's
Speaker 1: just normal. It's just normal. It's not like when I
Speaker 1: see a filter, I still think that's not me. That's
Speaker 1: not me at all. Like I have this idea of
Speaker 1: what I look like and if I funk with it
Speaker 1: at all, but do you think kids, we still have
Speaker 1: mirrors and so that is how but sometimes you get
Speaker 1: a skinny mirror and you go, oh, my, my mind
Speaker 1: and with good lighting, you know, like did I tell
Speaker 1: you about the like I I. So this weekend, Matt
Speaker 1: was taking pictures as he always does of us on tour,
Speaker 1: and he's actually just gotten so good at it that
Speaker 1: sometimes we'll hire a photographer and his photos are better
Speaker 1: than the person that brings the equipment. And he took
Speaker 1: this picture of me this weekend and I've definitely gained
Speaker 1: weight recently, and he cropped it in a way. Like,
Speaker 1: So after the show, him and An you go back
Speaker 1: to their hotel room and then we'll get like eight
Speaker 1: pictures sent to us that they edit like at like
Speaker 1: one am. So like they'll be up on their laptops
Speaker 1: just hanging out, decompressing in the weekend, and I just
Speaker 1: picture them in there and Anya seeing a picture of
Speaker 1: me and going, you should crop out, Like I just
Speaker 1: know she won't post that because her fat is kind
Speaker 1: of coming out of the time, like I just feel
Speaker 1: my friends editing for me, and I hate it when
Speaker 1: people and I've done it before, where I go, don't
Speaker 1: show her that picture, she'll kill herself because I know
Speaker 1: my friend's sensitivity. But Matt said, is precuriously cropped photo
Speaker 1: of where it just cropped right under my boobs, like
Speaker 1: where you know there might be a roll of fat
Speaker 1: because I was bent over kind of doing this praying
Speaker 1: hands and it was cropped in this way that I
Speaker 1: was just like. The next day, I go, hey, can
Speaker 1: you send me the full image of that, like I
Speaker 1: want to know the truth. And he's like, I don't
Speaker 1: even know where it is. I I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think that's the way I shot it. And I go, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: this is cropped, Please send it to me. So then
Speaker 1: he sends me another one and it's not the same picture,
Speaker 1: and I was like, these pictures are different, and I
Speaker 1: toggled between them and screen recording. Yeah, I mean that's honestly,
Speaker 1: I look like a monster. No, I just I just
Speaker 1: don't like people editing photos of me. I don't like
Speaker 1: you know. Yes, I sometimes will toy with light to
Speaker 1: make me look better, or I will do you know,
Speaker 1: a different angle I will never ever edit my face.
Speaker 1: I will never do a tint on something to like
Speaker 1: I don't because I just want to know the truth.
Speaker 1: That's the same way I feel about tender photos, like
Speaker 1: why would you ever put like better looking photos than
Speaker 1: you can be? I want to be. But that's almost
Speaker 1: a problem for me because people look so good in
Speaker 1: photos and I'm always taking, you know, the best of
Speaker 1: a batch, but I won't edit them. And so I'm
Speaker 1: on this F Boy Island poster that's coming out that
Speaker 1: my publicist sent me, and it's me and the three
Speaker 1: girls who are a decade and a half younger than me,
Speaker 1: and we're all like on these rocks looking seductive. And
Speaker 1: the publicist sent me and was like, hey, this is
Speaker 1: the key art for F Boy. Um, your arm does
Speaker 1: not look as skinny as it is. Do you want
Speaker 1: us to do something about it? And I was like no, no, what?
Speaker 1: And and then I look at the photo because I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: what's this gonna be. It looks definitely like you know,
Speaker 1: an arm that is like not it's being pushed against
Speaker 1: my side, you know, like how it like you know,
Speaker 1: your thighs like fan out when you sit down. It
Speaker 1: looks like that for an arm, so like it doesn't
Speaker 1: look as thin as my arm is. But I was
Speaker 1: just like no, because and I'm not doing it for
Speaker 1: the children of the world to be a good example
Speaker 1: and to show a real woman's body. I'm a skinny woman,
Speaker 1: so it's not like I'm like representing anything that, you
Speaker 1: know whatever. I'm just saying I didn't do it because
Speaker 1: I don't want to lie to myself because then I
Speaker 1: have to I I hate that Nikki Welcome Home Nicky
Speaker 1: Glazer is on and I have to post clips from
Speaker 1: it because I do not look like I gained twenty
Speaker 1: pounds since that show shot. So every time I post
Speaker 1: a clip from it, I look like this little twig.
Speaker 1: And then the next picture is comes to me and
Speaker 1: and I'm like eating a potato on stage and I've
Speaker 1: got I look like a potato. And it's like I
Speaker 1: struggle with editing photos because I want to look like
Speaker 1: what I look like, but I can't help it when
Speaker 1: it's something from the past like that, and I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to be like this is me now. I literally
Speaker 1: won't even post. I paid thousands of dollars for this
Speaker 1: photo shoot years ago, and the photos are still usable,
Speaker 1: and my publics want to use them, but I won't
Speaker 1: let them because it's doesn't look like me anymore to me,
Speaker 1: and I think people will think. This is what I
Speaker 1: think people will think I'm trying to look younger, and
Speaker 1: I don't want anyone to ever think that I'm trying
Speaker 1: to look to lie. Okay, well let's break this down
Speaker 1: when we get back, Andrew, do you look younger? Do
Speaker 1: you look bigger? Who really cares? Because we're all going
Speaker 1: to pass away? You know, didn't keep riving that Jesus Christ? Scary? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would never I know better to do. Make a
Speaker 1: song too good? All right, we're back. What do you
Speaker 1: make of all up? I mean, because you like taking
Speaker 1: pictures where you look I think really like you'll you'll
Speaker 1: pick the lighting where you look really really debonair. And
Speaker 1: I think that you don't mind a filter, right, you
Speaker 1: could literally go through my I don't agree with that.
Speaker 1: I literally posted. If you look at my photos, I
Speaker 1: don't like look sexy anymore, Like I think I've done
Speaker 1: that before, but like this is literally my last photo.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, but that's but then you're leaning in the funny.
Speaker 1: This one's a good photo. Yes, um, no. I mean,
Speaker 1: I put up good photos, but I'm just saying, um,
Speaker 1: what do you make of or no, I guess what
Speaker 1: do you make up? What do I make of it?
Speaker 1: I make that? I think, how do girls? How do
Speaker 1: they do this? How do they crop theirselves? Like we
Speaker 1: have a friend, we have a mutual friend who always
Speaker 1: looks so filtered that I go, I don't recognize this person.
Speaker 1: How does she think that this is what she looks
Speaker 1: like in real life? Like That's what I don't understand
Speaker 1: with people when they do this stuff. I think that
Speaker 1: how do you keep it? What is the line? Because okay,
Speaker 1: let's say you get. But if you get, if you
Speaker 1: get botox and you get like different things done to
Speaker 1: your face, that's because that is my face. That is
Speaker 1: not that's the face I'm gonna walk around with. That's
Speaker 1: not a face that I'm editing in a soft so
Speaker 1: it's still me. Even body shaper, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: even like spanks. I think it's a lie and I'm
Speaker 1: not doing it. But if you've got the surgery would
Speaker 1: be the honest. Yeah, but that's actually changed my body.
Speaker 1: I went through a bloody procedure. I didn't just where
Speaker 1: is really exhausting to wear and painful, and whenever I
Speaker 1: wear it, I can't stop talking about the fact that
Speaker 1: I'm wearing it because I don't want anyone to think
Speaker 1: that it's my natural state. If someone ever goes, you're
Speaker 1: hot on stage, what do I say? I have on
Speaker 1: fake gushes? I have on fake tan, I this, I
Speaker 1: have a since belt on like I need to for
Speaker 1: some reason. I need people to know that I'm trash
Speaker 1: because I don't like because I feel like I've been
Speaker 1: misled by all these lies, because I look at girls
Speaker 1: all and I'm not and I'm really I'm not doing
Speaker 1: it for the children. I promise you that, But I
Speaker 1: think you do post photos where you do look fantastic,
Speaker 1: but nothing about that is I'm not saying it's fake.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that that it can come off as like, yes,
Speaker 1: I want to be completely honest, but also I want
Speaker 1: attention and likes from looking great, right, but but only
Speaker 1: when I actually look great on my own DNA merit
Speaker 1: and like because it's good the way God made me
Speaker 1: and the way God made that length and the you
Speaker 1: could argue, then you keep going go well to make up,
Speaker 1: and then this I've gone the lighting was amazing. I'm
Speaker 1: sucking in so hard that my my stomach hurts. I
Speaker 1: always say that stuff. I'm just trying to think of
Speaker 1: a filter because like, let's say, your arm in the
Speaker 1: photo before that looked actually like your arm right, Like
Speaker 1: maybe that photo with the angle with the lighting made
Speaker 1: your arm look bigger than it is. If they could
Speaker 1: take my arm from the other photo and put it
Speaker 1: in That's why, but that I will not have them
Speaker 1: take an inch off my arm and then change the
Speaker 1: way the rock formation is, like you know, but I
Speaker 1: guess that's where I mean, you can look at it
Speaker 1: that way, where like everything else is proportional and what
Speaker 1: you actually do look like and then because it is
Speaker 1: angle and look shitty, so maybe take your arm from
Speaker 1: the other arm. Like So, I don't know, I think
Speaker 1: it is. But why do girls feel better when they
Speaker 1: lie in photos and post a photo and get likes
Speaker 1: from that? I feel if I like, even like when
Speaker 1: people are like I like this special you did, and
Speaker 1: I know that it was bad, I just I can't
Speaker 1: take that in. I can't take any of those compliments
Speaker 1: and because to me, I'm like, they are liking something
Speaker 1: that I know isn't good or is a lie? I
Speaker 1: would think their argument would be one, you're an attractive
Speaker 1: woman and they're not as attractive, and being attractive, like
Speaker 1: you said, gets rewarded and they want to get rewarded,
Speaker 1: and or maybe to them, they just like. To them
Speaker 1: what you feel is like subpar work, they think is
Speaker 1: really exceptional. And I can understand it for work, But
Speaker 1: I'm wondering why how women can accept compliments when they've
Speaker 1: edited photos of themselves that doesn't look like them. How
Speaker 1: do they get and are they getting self esteem from it?
Speaker 1: They wouldn't keep doing it if they didn't think. It's
Speaker 1: an elevated culture from heels and makeup and broad it's
Speaker 1: just like an extension of Yeah, that makes sense with
Speaker 1: extensions and mean, I know, but like, don't you feel
Speaker 1: weird if you get a like when someone like you
Speaker 1: look when people think I look beautiful when I have
Speaker 1: makeup on, It actually hurts my It makes me feel sad.
Speaker 1: And even when I and I'll tell you I don't
Speaker 1: like likes on photos where I look super hot, I
Speaker 1: don't get off from that because it actually depresses me
Speaker 1: because I go, look how people like me so much
Speaker 1: when I'm the prettiest version of myself as opposed to
Speaker 1: just my normal self. Like being liked is really about
Speaker 1: the most shallow ship and its it sends me into
Speaker 1: a depression. And Okay, you're probably not going to accept
Speaker 1: this when I say it. But when I see photos
Speaker 1: of female comics, um like on stage and it's a
Speaker 1: professional photo and they have makeup on and especially like
Speaker 1: your tour posts and stuff, I don't just like it
Speaker 1: because I think you look beautiful. I like it for
Speaker 1: the statement that it makes, which is all right, we
Speaker 1: have a woman out there. She's getting like like the
Speaker 1: same type of um uh production that a man would get.
Speaker 1: She looks really good. I like her top, I like
Speaker 1: the way her hair looks. It's yes, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's that vein. I do know that when I do
Speaker 1: post a picture that's not me on a stage and
Speaker 1: it's me on a beach, just like looking hot in
Speaker 1: the Golden Hour lighting, that gets more likes than me.
Speaker 1: Like helping out in an animal shelter, do you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Or like holding my niece and having
Speaker 1: a tender moment like that's where I go. I mean,
Speaker 1: we know our society shallow it just like confirms it
Speaker 1: to me that I just I guess it just stems
Speaker 1: from my thought that I'm unlovable unless I'm giving people
Speaker 1: what they want, and that depresses me because I just
Speaker 1: want to be lovable the way I am, even if
Speaker 1: I was like a burn victim. And that's why my
Speaker 1: favorite videos are the Beauty Queen fell on a fire
Speaker 1: and had to find a personality, because do you think
Speaker 1: you'd feel better? Let's say you go up on stage,
Speaker 1: you're wearing jeans an old T shirt. No, maker, never
Speaker 1: do that ever, because I don't want to disrespect my audience.
Speaker 1: I want to put an effort, but isn't the effort
Speaker 1: of being No, That's another thing. My act isn't enough.
Speaker 1: I think that I'm not talented. Yeah, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: you should. I'm just saying like, that's the other option
Speaker 1: is to go, and then I can't do that because
Speaker 1: for me, I think I'm not talented enough and I
Speaker 1: think people will go. Her act sucked and she was
Speaker 1: not even good to look at because at least the
Speaker 1: girls that bring their husbands along that don't want to
Speaker 1: be there, And I'm like, I hate female comics. I'm
Speaker 1: literally dressing hot so that they are like, wellly she
Speaker 1: was hot and I could just fucking stare at her
Speaker 1: like I know that's sad to admit, but I do.
Speaker 1: And I dress up because girls dress up for my
Speaker 1: show and I want to, Like Matt, it feels like
Speaker 1: showing up to a party where you're under dress. I
Speaker 1: would never dress like Adam Sandler with my stand up.
Speaker 1: I would never do that, even if it was like
Speaker 1: I feel ridiculous, I want to, you know, but you
Speaker 1: did at the one time in Canada, because because I
Speaker 1: lost my there's an excuse. There's an If there's an excuse,
Speaker 1: I'll do it. I can. That's why I'm like bondage,
Speaker 1: so I don't have to fucking move because there's an excuse.
Speaker 1: If I'm tied up, I can't do anything. I love
Speaker 1: a forced excuse or a forced reason for why you
Speaker 1: go half and half. That's why there's parts of me
Speaker 1: that some times go it would be nice to be
Speaker 1: a burn. I'm not saying nice to be a burn victim.
Speaker 1: There'll be something freeing about not ever having the ability
Speaker 1: to ever be hot again, that that that is taken
Speaker 1: from me because if it's if it's on the table,
Speaker 1: I always feel like a failure that I'm not wearing
Speaker 1: I'm not trying enough. Like I have to go do
Speaker 1: a podcast today, Jason Nash's podcast. I think it has
Speaker 1: a huge following. There's gonna be video of it. He
Speaker 1: he's always hanging out with these young YouTubers. There's gonna
Speaker 1: be young people watching it. No, he's flying here to
Speaker 1: film me for it. But um and I just feel like,
Speaker 1: because it's video, I have to curl my hair, I
Speaker 1: have to dress up, I have to look presentable again.
Speaker 1: Because it's on video. Things that look you know, visually
Speaker 1: pleasing are more fun to watch. Um. And that's why
Speaker 1: I always tell you, like, fix your lighting. It's not
Speaker 1: because it'll things that look good are gonna get eyes
Speaker 1: on them, because you want to look at things. That's
Speaker 1: why you when you make your phone in gray scale,
Speaker 1: you don't want to be on as much. It sounds pretty,
Speaker 1: it's not as satisfying. It's not because you're you know,
Speaker 1: want to funk your phone. I had the uh the
Speaker 1: green room we were in uh the second trip or
Speaker 1: a second Pittsburgh had like nineteen mirrors in it, like
Speaker 1: and so I could see my I would staying o'h
Speaker 1: my god, I look handsome and then I caught like
Speaker 1: a side probe and I think my side and whatever
Speaker 1: you want to, but I feel like it's dogshit. Like
Speaker 1: from this side my neck, I have this fat now
Speaker 1: that has gotten here, like I'm getting older, Like my
Speaker 1: neck looks fatter. My eyes look like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: indented a little. I just look. I feel like my
Speaker 1: back of my head is cut off. I feel like
Speaker 1: the back of my head got cut off by a
Speaker 1: tomahawk that someone scalp me. Yeah. Yeah, and then my
Speaker 1: neck this thing. I'm sucking my own dick all the time,
Speaker 1: which is cool, but it sucks my standing. So I
Speaker 1: see all this it's cool, and it fucking drives me nuts,
Speaker 1: it really does. And then I go, I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe as a guy, there's less Like I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that I don't freak out when I see a bit,
Speaker 1: And people are probably gonna write to me and say, Nick,
Speaker 1: you sound really sick, and you should go back to
Speaker 1: get in some sort of recovery program. You should read
Speaker 1: this book about Well, you're not on camera constantly unless
Speaker 1: you are, unless you're a newscaster, that is, to see
Speaker 1: your face every day and you sit in here and
Speaker 1: make up every day, and you have to post put
Speaker 1: photos of yourself every day, and you have to go
Speaker 1: on a video podcast every day, and the second you
Speaker 1: wake up, you have to walk in your room and
Speaker 1: look at your fucking you know, puffy face from not
Speaker 1: getting sleep last night and put some makeup on it
Speaker 1: and make yourself look good and then go to this
Speaker 1: video podcast and then go on Zoom and try to
Speaker 1: pitch a show on this. But unless you're looking at
Speaker 1: your face all day, every day, and you're part of
Speaker 1: your career is based on how you look, do not
Speaker 1: write me because you don't know what it's like. And
Speaker 1: this is why I talk this way, And I'm not crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm a little crazy. But the reason I'm so focused
Speaker 1: on my looks is because it's part of my job.
Speaker 1: And I wish I could be blind and not see
Speaker 1: it and deal with it. But people write me all
Speaker 1: the time and go, you sound so sick, girl, this
Speaker 1: isn't good for you. And it's just like, well, do
Speaker 1: what do you do for a living? You have one
Speaker 1: school picture you take a year teacher, or maybe you're
Speaker 1: on Zoom and safe to look at yourself. But like
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be You should be teaching and maybe turn
Speaker 1: off your camera like their solutions for you. For me,
Speaker 1: I have to look at these photos and post them.
Speaker 1: And if I don't, then I just paid Matt money
Speaker 1: that is worthless because I can't have someone else go
Speaker 1: through the photos and post them because when I do that,
Speaker 1: people don't have the same taste as me, and they'll
Speaker 1: post a photo where I'm like, oh my god, why
Speaker 1: would you. I have to look at this stuff I
Speaker 1: got yesterday, but I didn't want to look at because
Speaker 1: I looked fat in it. I didn't want to look
Speaker 1: at it. I didn't want to feel bad about myself,
Speaker 1: but I had to because there's content within the clip,
Speaker 1: and if it's not funny, I don't want to post it.
Speaker 1: My career is in that clip, and so I have
Speaker 1: to watch it, and then so the I used to
Speaker 1: never look in the mirror. Before I was a stand up,
Speaker 1: I didn't look at photos of myself. I didn't analyze things.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be on Instagram if I weren't a comedian.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't because it's not good for my mental health.
Speaker 1: So I am just making do the best I can.
Speaker 1: I'm working in a bar, and I'm an alcoholic and
Speaker 1: I have to deal with drinks and smell them and
Speaker 1: taste them all the time. And I'm an alcoholic, So
Speaker 1: why not do this? Why not? We've talked about this before,
Speaker 1: You have managed whatever. You have a team that could
Speaker 1: do your Instagram. You would never even have to look
Speaker 1: I just said, because when they look at it, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't like the pictures they chose. I've tried to
Speaker 1: outsource before, and because when I finally seen, I go
Speaker 1: first one. Because sometimes your friends will go, you look
Speaker 1: beautiful in this, and you go, what the funk? I
Speaker 1: you think I look like that? Like there's no one
Speaker 1: you can really trust except yourself unless it's your old
Speaker 1: comedy usually how I feel. I'm just saying this today,
Speaker 1: like when did you see that I'm here? When did
Speaker 1: you get that f boy poster? That email? Oh? I
Speaker 1: got that months ago? And I and my publicists felt
Speaker 1: so bad because I wrote back and I go, I
Speaker 1: don't photoshop my body and I'll never will. And I
Speaker 1: do not change my size. You know, I understand taking
Speaker 1: out imperfections in because they do like retouch your face
Speaker 1: and things, but I will never change my size ever, ever, ever, ever,
Speaker 1: on anything I do, I'm as you know, unless it's
Speaker 1: against my will. And someone did it, and I could
Speaker 1: tell she was like freaked out, like she was like
Speaker 1: made of grave because she pretty much said, your arm
Speaker 1: looks fat. And then I go, no, I like it.
Speaker 1: I don't think it looks fat, and I'm like, so
Speaker 1: I wrote her, you know, separately being like, don't worry,
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at you. It's totally fine. You're looking
Speaker 1: out for me. You're right, it does look a little meaty. Um, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what if because we tried that, bef, we talked about
Speaker 1: that before. If you know, like someone like Nate bar
Speaker 1: gaffew right, he just puts up his stand up, just
Speaker 1: a stand up and then a picture, maybe one every
Speaker 1: twenty would that I think? Do you think that would
Speaker 1: help you in your brain? Like? But then people don't
Speaker 1: pick the right stand up clips? Could you have more?
Speaker 1: You have so much? I would be doing stand up
Speaker 1: clips that they were easy for me. They are the
Speaker 1: most hard for me because they are moving picture of me,
Speaker 1: which I actually love myself on video I have I
Speaker 1: can watch I can watch anything I do on mute.
Speaker 1: I love it. It's my voice plus my jokes and
Speaker 1: content that make me go, oh god, you're so untalented,
Speaker 1: and then I can't post it. I literally can't post
Speaker 1: any clips. And I have shot five special wait one, two, three, four, five,
Speaker 1: six specials. I have seven six or seven specials late
Speaker 1: night a half hour to an hour long, and then
Speaker 1: I have eleven late night in appearances I have. I
Speaker 1: have more content than anyone. You just just write that
Speaker 1: every single day, Just post that video. Yeah, right, like
Speaker 1: how Mike Tally, I would. I would like to remind
Speaker 1: people I forget. Don't look at my IMDb and you
Speaker 1: tell me like that I'm not seventy three years old
Speaker 1: and haven't been working in this business since nine because
Speaker 1: it looks like I have been. It is I don't
Speaker 1: even know how many things I've done, but it is insane,
Speaker 1: and I just I I would be more successful if
Speaker 1: I had an easier time looking at myself and I
Speaker 1: was a little bit more Yeah, I mean I can.
Speaker 1: I can brag about my achievements, but I tricked everyone
Speaker 1: to get them. I did it. I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: trick besties because this show, there's nothing I'm doing that's
Speaker 1: like sleight of hand or I feel like it's sneaky
Speaker 1: people that listen to the show and like me from
Speaker 1: the show, just like me for me, and I don't start.
Speaker 1: I don't need to start singing that song about song
Speaker 1: I want, um, but I really do. That's why I
Speaker 1: love this podcast. I feel like it's the first time
Speaker 1: where I go, I could look like anything and people
Speaker 1: would still listen. So thank you for that. When we
Speaker 1: get back, we are coming back with our Wednesday segment
Speaker 1: that we do once in a while called Besties Being Guesties,
Speaker 1: and it is a very special bestie guest that I
Speaker 1: can't wait too before Instagram for the Internet. Alright, we're back.
Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, and it's time for our new segment that
Speaker 1: we've only done one. This is our second time doing it.
Speaker 1: It's time for Besties being Guesties. Bestie the Guestie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Bestie the guestie. Yeah yeah, today's bestie? Who is our guestie? Um? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wrote that and I produced. No, no, I've produced.
Speaker 1: I wrote it and Britney Spears inspired it. Um. Today's
Speaker 1: guest is a bestie that got into the show. I
Speaker 1: don't know how he got into the show, but we'll
Speaker 1: get into that in a second. Yes, you know what.
Speaker 1: You haven't been introduced yet, so you shut your trap
Speaker 1: over their mist and also make your bed. It's your bed,
Speaker 1: first of all. Second of all, I did put a
Speaker 1: comforter on there, just yeah, it seems it seems made
Speaker 1: mess and I was like this, you had to tossle
Speaker 1: it up just to make it look like you didn't
Speaker 1: try to. All right. So our bestie who was a
Speaker 1: guestie today is an old friend of mine who we
Speaker 1: got reconnected recently through social media found each other. I
Speaker 1: met Daniel is here today. Daniel is someone I met
Speaker 1: in on spring break in two thousand two, Yes I
Speaker 1: believe it was two um and I was a senior
Speaker 1: in high school. We were down in Deston, Florida. I
Speaker 1: was there with my sister Lauren and my other best
Speaker 1: friend Lauren who goes by Huffy, and we were down
Speaker 1: there with my family and we met these boys stay
Speaker 1: in the same hotel. No, I know, we were staying
Speaker 1: somewhere else, but we met them. I don't Here's the thing,
Speaker 1: I don't remember exactly how we met. And Daniel is
Speaker 1: going to share that because he almost told me the
Speaker 1: other night in Baltimore. When I first met I saw
Speaker 1: Daniel for the first time twenty years. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is twenty years ago. And can I preface this with
Speaker 1: spring break? You never run into your hook up or
Speaker 1: the person you meet on springbreak twenty years later, like
Speaker 1: this never happened. Well, we didn't run into each other.
Speaker 1: It happened because we found we found each other. It doesn't.
Speaker 1: But I did always wonder about these boys from Alabama
Speaker 1: that we called the Alabama Boys. We became really good friends.
Speaker 1: There was looking up by the way there. We were
Speaker 1: just friends. We we loved them so much. We probably
Speaker 1: all we we kind of like add crushes on you,
Speaker 1: but we didn't even know how to like fucking we
Speaker 1: think about that. We were just friends and got along
Speaker 1: so well. We went back to St. Louis and you know,
Speaker 1: told all our friends about the Alabama Boys. I think
Speaker 1: they came to visit at one point, but we lost
Speaker 1: touch of the years, and I kind of always wondered
Speaker 1: if I would ever meet them again, or if they
Speaker 1: would ever see me on TV and be like, is
Speaker 1: that the girl from St. Louis that we met, If
Speaker 1: they would you know, if they would go in their
Speaker 1: Alabama Boys text chain and go, hey, guys, turn on
Speaker 1: the TV. I think one of the girls we met,
Speaker 1: and it turns out I think that's is what happened. Daniel,
Speaker 1: Um Daniel was no fence to Lee and and Dan
Speaker 1: was it. Dan was the other one man I speak
Speaker 1: or not? Yeah, you can speak. I guess you were
Speaker 1: my favorite. I don't want to be mean to that,
Speaker 1: but you were always my favorite. So that was my
Speaker 1: That's what I was very excited about, was that you
Speaker 1: got in touch. That's really nice because we've been debating
Speaker 1: this for a long time now, Like, first of all,
Speaker 1: do you remember, Second of all, who is your favorite?
Speaker 1: So that score is miss thank you. Did you have
Speaker 1: like long hair? Yeah for sure? And I was probably
Speaker 1: wearing a hat, Like a wore a hat all the time.
Speaker 1: So when you saw me, Yeah, what of University of
Speaker 1: Alabama Auburn? First of all, Andrew, it's Auburn. I know
Speaker 1: you went to Auburn. I remember I talked at nauseam
Speaker 1: about this. Hey, I was all right, but I don't
Speaker 1: know if Yeah, it probably was an Auburn hat or
Speaker 1: something like did you comb your hair forward? Yeah for sure,
Speaker 1: for sure. That's the rage Daniel. How did we like?
Speaker 1: What was so was? Because you seem to remember this,
Speaker 1: and I stopped you before you told me, because I
Speaker 1: go just come on the show and let's relive it,
Speaker 1: because it'll all come back to me. Yes, So I
Speaker 1: always thought it was two thousand one. By the way,
Speaker 1: you think it was two thousand Yeah, I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: it was time to change the tattoo. So, uh, two
Speaker 1: thousand whatever it was. We were the the Alabama Boys.
Speaker 1: It was. It was Dan, Jake Lee, and me. So
Speaker 1: there was a fourth Dan, Jake Lee, I remember, I
Speaker 1: don't remember Jake. Sorry, Jake. Well, Jake was with Huffy
Speaker 1: most of the time. Okay, okay, yeah, no, did they
Speaker 1: ever kiss or anything like that? Yeah? Oh god, at
Speaker 1: the time, I'm sure I knew this, but I can't
Speaker 1: believe I've forgotten it. Okay, Okay, So, actually I talked
Speaker 1: to you. I haven't talked to Jake in a while,
Speaker 1: and we talked for like an hour and a half
Speaker 1: last night to try to catch up, so and remember
Speaker 1: some stuff, remember something. So yeah, so definitely they they
Speaker 1: were together. They were like on off by themselves for
Speaker 1: the most of the trip, but we were at we
Speaker 1: were at the Crab Trap in Destin, Florida, is like
Speaker 1: I think it's like a local chain now probably and
Speaker 1: uh and uh, it's probably not a place that we
Speaker 1: would want to go anymore. But we were all standing.
Speaker 1: We remember Gil going to the beach. They had like
Speaker 1: a little beach bar, and we went down there and
Speaker 1: got um some virgin pina colatus and we were just
Speaker 1: drinking those down on the beach and I we're like
Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen um. And so then we come back inside
Speaker 1: and we're hanging out in the restaurant and then we're
Speaker 1: like waiting for our table, and these three lovely ladies
Speaker 1: approach us, and we're like, they approached you. They approached us,
Speaker 1: And Nikki not every day you see him, Like, I
Speaker 1: know you've like blocked this out of your memory, but
Speaker 1: you approached us. You saw some virgin drinking virgins. Yeah,
Speaker 1: extra virgin is what you saw does not shock me
Speaker 1: because we we had had a spring break. Before our
Speaker 1: spring break A one, we had gotten approach and like
Speaker 1: things happened with some boys, and so I think I
Speaker 1: was feeling a little confident in O two. I'm a senior.
Speaker 1: I got nothing to lose, I got my little sister.
Speaker 1: I gotta show how it's done. And I think that
Speaker 1: I just and you guys like seems so nice and
Speaker 1: we were are not intimidating, Yeah exactly. So yeah, we
Speaker 1: were like, you know, we were on the we were
Speaker 1: kind of nerdy. What was her line? Do you remember
Speaker 1: her first line? No, not at all. We were all
Speaker 1: just like stunted, like these these women come to us
Speaker 1: and we're like, girls don't talk to us, Like what's happening? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It was wild. Um. So yeah, you guys came and
Speaker 1: talked to us, and we were just like I can't
Speaker 1: believe this is happening. And then we um, we you know,
Speaker 1: we had dinner and or we so we but we
Speaker 1: had dinner separately like we were we were the table,
Speaker 1: and then um, I think this is where I need
Speaker 1: your help. We think we like went our separate ways,
Speaker 1: like went back to our hotel condo, freshened up, and
Speaker 1: met again that night. We definitely did. Yes, that's yes. Um.
Speaker 1: And so you have phones, Yeah that's the thing. Okay,
Speaker 1: we didn't. I don't. We didn't have phones. I don't
Speaker 1: think we have to meet at the Palm Tree. Meet
Speaker 1: at the Palm Tree at nine, Yeah, exactly, like the address,
Speaker 1: like we probably said, like meat back around here at
Speaker 1: this time and like, well, yeah, we'll meet up at
Speaker 1: the beer. Yeah, so you meet up, so you get
Speaker 1: freshened up. Are you guys thinking like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: like what am I gonna sprain extra like obsession on
Speaker 1: or something like some obsession some woods clanny happy. We're
Speaker 1: all just like bathing in it. Yeah, you guys have
Speaker 1: to be excited to leaving and then going to meet
Speaker 1: I mean there's three boys, there's three of you, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, but I gotta be honest with my I
Speaker 1: was not. I was not like thinking hook up. I
Speaker 1: was just like I just wanted to meet cute boys,
Speaker 1: like I was. I did not have like Dick gone
Speaker 1: the brain like I wasn't like man, I can't wait
Speaker 1: to you know, sucking fuck like that was not nick.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to be around cute boys and flirt
Speaker 1: and have crushes like we just wanted. I just I
Speaker 1: still to this day just love being like what God
Speaker 1: like so excited and being like which one do you like?
Speaker 1: Like picking your favorite? But that's hard, though, is because
Speaker 1: if there's three and then four you who get to us,
Speaker 1: we get there's we we all will take anybody. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So but there is thinking like that, like I'm sure
Speaker 1: when you guys were like, Okay, I like the blonde one.
Speaker 1: I'm sure Jake, you'll take anything. Jake seriously, I mean
Speaker 1: he was much more than we were at that time.
Speaker 1: Like Huffy was kind of all taking anything. I love,
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about. But was the one that
Speaker 1: was just like, what's to make out with me? Huffy
Speaker 1: was looking for some action. Yea guy like he was experienced.
Speaker 1: Those are the two friends that found that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Like Jake was experienced. What did he do? He kind
Speaker 1: of finger a girl once was back then that was
Speaker 1: anything he was a yeah, so we just second um.
Speaker 1: But something interesting about this is that it was me
Speaker 1: and my sister then, Like, like my sister and I
Speaker 1: were not social together in high school. You know, she
Speaker 1: was popular and as a sophomore and I was somewhere
Speaker 1: in between as a senior. And so my sister had
Speaker 1: a lot more experience with boys, not just you know, physically,
Speaker 1: but like just being friends with cool boys that I
Speaker 1: really did. So it was it's interesting to me that
Speaker 1: me and my sister did this together. But we we
Speaker 1: had a great time with you guys. So what did
Speaker 1: you guys do like throw a turtle or something. Well,
Speaker 1: so we went to your place. Did we meet your parents? Probably? Yeah,
Speaker 1: my parents are here too, and I'm guessing yes they
Speaker 1: were there. They were there, and we were staying with
Speaker 1: my parents. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, So we just I
Speaker 1: feel like you had like two levels. We hung out
Speaker 1: down at the lower level and we just like talked.
Speaker 1: We were just talking for hours and hours and hours
Speaker 1: is what is what I think we look We were obsessed,
Speaker 1: Like I was like, these are our best friends. Like
Speaker 1: I'm so I was so sad when we had to
Speaker 1: say goodbye, Like there was this really intense bond that
Speaker 1: happened of like why don't these boys go to school
Speaker 1: with us? And you know they're not going to graduate
Speaker 1: until next year? Where are they going to go to school?
Speaker 1: Like where? How can we? How can we have them
Speaker 1: in our lives? Like there was just like this longing
Speaker 1: for like why can't we why can't we have these
Speaker 1: kind of boys in our lives? Where? Where were they
Speaker 1: in high school? For us? I feel like there's an
Speaker 1: energy when you know, when I'd go on a cruise,
Speaker 1: you get the best, you got the best, Daniel, you
Speaker 1: got the best, You got the best of Nikki, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, And and that energy comes together
Speaker 1: and it's I don't know, it ignites when you have
Speaker 1: only a few days together. It really does, even if
Speaker 1: it's friendship. So you're like, where are these boys? You
Speaker 1: probably had some boys in Missouri in your school that
Speaker 1: we were similar, but they just got our sense of
Speaker 1: humor right away, which is very unique and absurd. You know,
Speaker 1: like we were definitely a different type of I hear
Speaker 1: it all the time of people being like in high school,
Speaker 1: you guys were so like, well, I just tell stories
Speaker 1: about the things we were. Like the other day I
Speaker 1: was telling my boyfriend, I was like, because Kristen sent
Speaker 1: me this card for my birthday where she drew a
Speaker 1: picture of us now, and then she drew a drawing
Speaker 1: of like this picture of us back in middle school
Speaker 1: where we used to just like wet our hair and
Speaker 1: slick it back, and we in high school we would
Speaker 1: refer to that photo of us from eighth grade is like,
Speaker 1: look at us, we look like such slick fux. So
Speaker 1: it would be like, don't look like a slick fun
Speaker 1: and that kind of sense of humor in high school
Speaker 1: to refer to yourselves as oh, I'm just slick, fun
Speaker 1: We're really funny and weird, and I don't think a
Speaker 1: lot of boys who were trying to be these guys
Speaker 1: were not cut at all, and that's what There was
Speaker 1: not an ounce of that, And I appreciate you saying that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: how many days did you guys end up just that
Speaker 1: it was just one special night or four days? It
Speaker 1: was several, if we'll call it a few. And I
Speaker 1: think there was one time where we actually someone said
Speaker 1: we walked to Jake's thought this. He was like, we
Speaker 1: we walked. You were on one end of DestinE, we
Speaker 1: were on the other, and we walked the beach to you,
Speaker 1: which I think is insane, but I mean that would
Speaker 1: sound accurate to me, like back then, we would have
Speaker 1: walked to you like we were so obsessed with you,
Speaker 1: and we came back with the story to tell our
Speaker 1: friends of like the Alabama Boys, we found the best
Speaker 1: boys ever that are literally us in boy forms of
Speaker 1: like same sense of humor, I like to talk about
Speaker 1: the same kind of things, like the same music. But
Speaker 1: there had to have been some kind of wanting that
Speaker 1: I did not but I did hear. I was the
Speaker 1: only time I had ever kissed. Someone was the year
Speaker 1: before in spring break, but no, but I was the
Speaker 1: guy like was really aggressive, which is what I needed.
Speaker 1: And these guys were not no offense. You are not
Speaker 1: aggressive boys that are going to make them move, and
Speaker 1: I am not someone that's going to be like I'm
Speaker 1: going to make a move. And so I mean, at
Speaker 1: that point in my life, there was no I would
Speaker 1: have never been kissed had someone not been like very
Speaker 1: But there must have been three or four days. That's like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that's a substantial amount of time to form
Speaker 1: a crush. Yes, there were crushes happened. I had a
Speaker 1: crush on Daniel for sure, because hard crushes the long hairs.
Speaker 1: This seems very platonic. But did Lee like my sister?
Speaker 1: I felt like Lee and my sister had more of
Speaker 1: a thing, and then Dan was somewhere just like floating
Speaker 1: in the middle. But I felt like you and I
Speaker 1: were like mainly I don't know if we were friends
Speaker 1: or like we probably had mutual crushes and would never
Speaker 1: talk about it, but like it was a you and
Speaker 1: I and I think it was my sister and Lee
Speaker 1: and then Huffy and whoever, Yes that was. That's been
Speaker 1: a debate I'm telling you, we've been we've been debating
Speaker 1: this week now, and I'm like, you have the crush. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think you're absolutely right. Now were you all? Were
Speaker 1: you Nikki's age at this point? You right in between?
Speaker 1: Well did you? When? Did you? Did you ever come
Speaker 1: across Did you know of me before you put it
Speaker 1: together that I was the girl back then? Or did
Speaker 1: we connect on Facebook at some point? Like was there
Speaker 1: always the awareness of me? Oh god, I'm like sweating guys,
Speaker 1: it's hot in here's your shirt off? Or something reminding
Speaker 1: a springbreak again. Yeah, let's see that's free break boy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: get on the bull. But now, um oh, like, how
Speaker 1: did you? When did you? Because someone made someone? I
Speaker 1: got a text from Hoff, who I don't really even
Speaker 1: talk to that much anymore, and she wrote a bunch
Speaker 1: of us being like the Alabama boys got in touch
Speaker 1: with me. This was two, you know, three weeks ago,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god. And for me,
Speaker 1: that sends back all this nostalgia of like, my friends
Speaker 1: are out there, like these guys that I was like
Speaker 1: so into and honestly I was thinking of you because
Speaker 1: I was thinking about the long haired one named Daniel.
Speaker 1: But I didn't remember your last name, and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, who wasn't And she sent it and
Speaker 1: it was it was the other Dan. But I'm like,
Speaker 1: I know they're still friends. There's no way they're not
Speaker 1: still friends. And then I googled and then I then
Speaker 1: then she sent me something, and then I just looked
Speaker 1: up your name and I went to message you and
Speaker 1: then you would argue message me. It was loaded. I
Speaker 1: just hadn't seen it. I was like, yes, connection has
Speaker 1: been made, So what led to that? So, um, I
Speaker 1: get so the other Well, yeah, a few weeks ago
Speaker 1: we were My wife and I watch a lot of
Speaker 1: um trash TV, garbage TV, love it, so I appreciate
Speaker 1: you doing that. Yeah, and and uh, like an advert
Speaker 1: for your show came up and I was like, holy
Speaker 1: sh it, Nikki has a show on and so and
Speaker 1: my wife was like like, weren't you friends with her?
Speaker 1: And I was like yes, like we were, you know,
Speaker 1: the best of friends. So I didn't started Yeah, I
Speaker 1: started thinking about this and then um, and then my
Speaker 1: then the guys and I are going to plan a
Speaker 1: trip or we are planning a trip to Destin in November.
Speaker 1: It's just like talking about going back and and we
Speaker 1: were like just reminiscing about, you know, the trip with
Speaker 1: you guys, and it's like, guys, we have got to
Speaker 1: talk to Nikki. We've got and so and so. With you,
Speaker 1: it was like you've got a million people that pay
Speaker 1: attention to you, and so it's like, there's no way
Speaker 1: she's going to see you know, my message through all
Speaker 1: the you know, tippics. So it's like I could have
Speaker 1: I just missed it. You know, there's some days where
Speaker 1: I would really would have seen it. I'm so I didn't,
Speaker 1: but okay, So they were like, let's try your sister,
Speaker 1: and she never got back to us. But then so
Speaker 1: then Lee, So Lee's the only one that still has Facebook,
Speaker 1: and so we're like, Lee, what is Huffy's name now?
Speaker 1: Because I'm sure he's changed. So he he stalked her
Speaker 1: down he foun Yeah, so he found her name and
Speaker 1: we were like, we were like, Huffy and then was
Speaker 1: the one that texted me and made it all happen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I told I was like, I'm going to go
Speaker 1: see your show in Baltimore. Um, you know, than just
Speaker 1: we were reminiscing about the trip, and yes, so what
Speaker 1: what happened to your life. So you went to We
Speaker 1: lost touch almost, I would say within a year or two,
Speaker 1: like you. I think you guys came to visit my
Speaker 1: family one time and stay at our house. Lee and
Speaker 1: I were on a road trip. Yeah, we were on
Speaker 1: a road trip and I don't even know how we
Speaker 1: got in touch with you and Lauren, but I guess
Speaker 1: it was Facebook and you weren't there. But we stayed
Speaker 1: at your house Telegraph, which was the Mullet House. Oh
Speaker 1: my god. The other day I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: it was a Mullet house. Dude. We Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that house. I have so many memories in the house.
Speaker 1: I know we're running short on time, but and I
Speaker 1: we got on the David Letterman, Well we didn't get
Speaker 1: on the David Leman and Show, but we became audience
Speaker 1: members by we were at your house, and we like
Speaker 1: we knew we were going to New York City, um
Speaker 1: from St. Louis, And so we called the Letterman show
Speaker 1: to get tickets and they called us back and we
Speaker 1: had to answer like a trivia question and we got tickets.
Speaker 1: We were in your pool, uh, and we got tickets
Speaker 1: to go see the your house. Your house was so awesome,
Speaker 1: it was it was I love that you guys got this.
Speaker 1: It makes me so sad that we'll never have this
Speaker 1: time in our life back where it's like you're free
Speaker 1: and like you just meet random boys and you guys
Speaker 1: can cheat, I know, but it's just can't do that anymore.
Speaker 1: You can't do that stuffing. What if you grew's hair
Speaker 1: out so you wouldn't do now that swoop back? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I could. It's actually yeah, out a little bit.
Speaker 1: You look like you got a good note, You're fine.
Speaker 1: If how old are you now? Thirty six? So you're
Speaker 1: it's fine, your hair a little right, yeah, but if
Speaker 1: you got most of it, you're okay. What what became
Speaker 1: of you? Give us me? Give me your life is now? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Thank you. So UM went to went to Auburn for
Speaker 1: UH school and yeah, and studied Go Tigers, studied UM
Speaker 1: like construction management. So I'm in construction UM and I
Speaker 1: interviewed with this company at school and they had a
Speaker 1: job offer in UM southern California. So I moved out
Speaker 1: there and was out there for like eight years. And
Speaker 1: we were there across the right there at the same time.
Speaker 1: This is so annoying Daniel, it's so fu up so
Speaker 1: um so anyways, uh so yeah, then, um, let's see,
Speaker 1: my wife and I got drunk one day and decided
Speaker 1: to go house hunting out there, and we were looking
Speaker 1: at a house that was like just you know, crappy
Speaker 1: neighborhood had offers already, it was like and then it
Speaker 1: was like one point two million dollars and we're like,
Speaker 1: fun this, we cannot stay here anymore. So we're like,
Speaker 1: let's leave. So we long story short, moved to Baltimore,
Speaker 1: where we have this did you meet your wife home
Speaker 1: where you're going to stay with us? Um? We met
Speaker 1: at a four year old birthday party out there in
Speaker 1: Pasadena for forty year olds. You know that. It was
Speaker 1: like did you did you walk seven miles down the
Speaker 1: beach to go to find it? I mean yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you mean? It was a four year old
Speaker 1: birthday party? Um? It was like a mutual friend that
Speaker 1: we had an older an older friend. Okay, did you
Speaker 1: date before? Yeah? Did? She were? Yeah? Well, she like
Speaker 1: walked up the steps and she made some funny motion
Speaker 1: with her body and arms, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: need to know you. I like You's my favorite stories
Speaker 1: of like how did you know? Or like, what was it?
Speaker 1: What was the what was the thing? And she just
Speaker 1: did something funny that you were just like that person. Yes,
Speaker 1: like I need her in my life. So we were
Speaker 1: friends for a long time and then um we so
Speaker 1: she loves music just as much. How did you take
Speaker 1: it from friends to to romantic? You were friends for well,
Speaker 1: you obviously liked her so much. Yeah, I was just
Speaker 1: kind of like, hey, girl, you know but no, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like it goes from like you
Speaker 1: guys are both like she probably likes you, but doesn't
Speaker 1: really know if you like her, and then like who
Speaker 1: makes the first That's the most interesting moment I think
Speaker 1: in humanity is that switch of like you're taking a chance.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I think, Um,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to ask her those questions, my members,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to find out because that's an important moment.
Speaker 1: Maybe she don't remember. I'm always shocked when people don't
Speaker 1: boys never remember those times where I'm always like, what
Speaker 1: was the moment you knew what? And I haven't like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a cool. She didn't. She was outside a car
Speaker 1: dealership trying to fly people that. Okay, so then you
Speaker 1: and you have a kid now, So we have a
Speaker 1: kid now. So she's amazing. I wish she's napping. Um,
Speaker 1: so my wife has COVID. It's been awful and so
Speaker 1: she's yeah, you said she hasn't had a COVID for
Speaker 1: a while. Some people just can't get it out of
Speaker 1: their fucking system. Keep going on it. Twe we've done
Speaker 1: all this yet it's awful. So anyways, what that means
Speaker 1: that our child, Vivian is her name? Oh great name changed?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, she's amazing. Um, she can't go to
Speaker 1: daycare for two weeks. So we're both like, she's my
Speaker 1: wife works, I'm working, we're like trying to do and
Speaker 1: you're doing a podcast. Do you call her vis Yes,
Speaker 1: we do. We call her viv Vivy. She calls herself Vivian. Vivian.
Speaker 1: That is a great name. Congratulations. Have you met Vivian's No,
Speaker 1: they're all they're all dead now. But yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: like a that's a very almost like an esther, like
Speaker 1: an older Um it really truly was my wife's grandmother's
Speaker 1: best friend's name, which that's cute. And your wife's grandmother's
Speaker 1: secret lesbian lover. Yes, that's what I said. Whatever grandmother's
Speaker 1: has best friends, like lifelong best friends. You go at
Speaker 1: a different time, they couldn't be out. Um, well, I'm
Speaker 1: so glad your daughter's name, wife's h grandmother's grandmother. Yeah,
Speaker 1: secret gay lover. Uh No, that's so. I was just
Speaker 1: saying on this weekend that, like, because I kind of
Speaker 1: don't even know that if I ever want to get married,
Speaker 1: but you just I just but I don't would just
Speaker 1: end up calling whoever was with my husband, just so
Speaker 1: people didn't feel awkward when I was like seventy something
Speaker 1: being like my boyfriend like I wasn't a boyfriends is
Speaker 1: just too weird. My grandmo used to have a boyfriend,
Speaker 1: and it would always crack me up to be like
Speaker 1: my grandma's boyfriend. Art. Well, if they have a boyfriend,
Speaker 1: you assumed their husband died, Yes, you always know that.
Speaker 1: When did your husband died three years ago? Is just
Speaker 1: like yeah, someone that just kind of plays by our
Speaker 1: own rules. She's just a widow. All right. Well we've
Speaker 1: ran the gamut of this discussion. Um, Daniel, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining us and taking time out of
Speaker 1: your COVID life. Thank you so much. We're gonna be
Speaker 1: friends now, like truly. Um, I wanna when I want
Speaker 1: a vacation together again. I want our families to be
Speaker 1: friends like we I have. We we made a friendship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's Jacob to Actually, guys, you two would be really good.
Speaker 1: You guys look alike straight up. Will you send me
Speaker 1: a picture of you boys back in the day, because
Speaker 1: I really want to remember. I know, I have a
Speaker 1: very strong idea. I know Alabama boys and they really
Speaker 1: I think one of them had a great T shirt
Speaker 1: with their sleeves rolled up at one point. No, they
Speaker 1: were like kind of nuts. They were donuts. And do
Speaker 1: you know what I mean by donnut? Okay that was
Speaker 1: when Okay, it was a type of Yeah. So it
Speaker 1: was a type of guy that we were really into
Speaker 1: that would have like kind of be like into fish
Speaker 1: and like the grateful dead Dave Matthews that had the
Speaker 1: swoopy long hair, and we're kind of like outdoorsy, not
Speaker 1: not hoosier, is not rednecks, but just like like of
Speaker 1: the earth and more like hemp necklaces. And they weren't
Speaker 1: quite that, but they had that spired about them. But
Speaker 1: and Dnuts comes from the fish song Wilson that goes
Speaker 1: Donna Wilson, and so we called them donuts. But you
Speaker 1: guys were it was work on your favorite band back then.
Speaker 1: Oh so that was probably what connected us. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: all I needed. Yeah, and and the John Mayer, that
Speaker 1: John Mayer album that that was that was which with
Speaker 1: d That is definitely what made us all to get along.
Speaker 1: Was just talking about how much we love John Mayer.
Speaker 1: Room for Squares. Yes, he would just arrived on the scene.
Speaker 1: He was like, indeed, dude, like no one knew about me.
Speaker 1: So to find these boys that knew about John Mayer,
Speaker 1: who I had seen for Guster eight months prior, like
Speaker 1: it was wild to be like you guys John Mayor too.
Speaker 1: And we would talk about the CD that like you know,
Speaker 1: this is before Cdson, like it's over before you know
Speaker 1: it was back in the day twenty years later. Daniel Burson,
Speaker 1: So good to have you on the show. Thank you
Speaker 1: for listening to the show, Thank you for being a fan,
Speaker 1: and thank you for being my friend. Daniel person, love
Speaker 1: you too. Yeah, you give my love to the fam. Okay,
Speaker 1: bye bye, Daniel and your Grandma's friend. Oh boy. Final thought,
Speaker 1: it's got to be so fun to reminisce like that.
Speaker 1: It was. It is so fun. It's and it's you
Speaker 1: know what's so funny is like I'm I was even
Speaker 1: nervous to be like I had a crush on you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I felt it was. There was literally like one percent
Speaker 1: of me being like, well, what if that feels like
Speaker 1: I don't want he's married, Like I don't want that
Speaker 1: to be like a weird thing, not that it would
Speaker 1: ever be, but I also I'm always kind of thinking
Speaker 1: of that and also like, um, and there's a high
Speaker 1: school part of me is like, but I knew he
Speaker 1: liked me back, Like I wasn't a dummy. I just
Speaker 1: knew that we we literally loved each other, like I
Speaker 1: loved him. He's a he's a very kind soul. Just
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, like but we were both
Speaker 1: too scared to ever like make a move on each other.
Speaker 1: I mean, and it felt so comfortable with him that
Speaker 1: I knew that he was never going to make a move,
Speaker 1: you know, Like it was not I was constantly being like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, you might kiss me, and then it
Speaker 1: would make it weird because we're friends, Like it was
Speaker 1: a friendship of like someday we'll probably get together, not
Speaker 1: anytime soon. I don't feel threatened by this person, because
Speaker 1: there would be guys that I would be friends with
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you you get the
Speaker 1: vibe that they sense that you like them, and then
Speaker 1: things fucking get weird. And with him it was just
Speaker 1: I really I think we said I love you back then,
Speaker 1: Like I really was like I love I loved them,
Speaker 1: loved them. I could see you guys doing it through
Speaker 1: Dave lyrics, you know, yeah for sure, probably, yeah. Oh.
Speaker 1: I would do that with boys all the time. And
Speaker 1: as soon as it would get a little bit too
Speaker 1: like lover or laydown would come on, and I'd be like,
Speaker 1: this is too much about sex, Like let's get back
Speaker 1: to trip and Billy's let's keep it lighting here, Let's
Speaker 1: get back to a song about deforestation. He writes a
Speaker 1: lot about like don't drink the water's um, the pollution
Speaker 1: and the white man. I like that one song about
Speaker 1: the bart bartender. Yeah, fix me drink. I don't need
Speaker 1: to think that is. I just remember like drinking to
Speaker 1: my twins being like man Dave gets it, like any
Speaker 1: song that makes you feel cool about drinking. God, it's
Speaker 1: just anything that will just yeah, cigarettes even like you know,
Speaker 1: mad men making me feel like it's cool, like to smoke.
Speaker 1: There's so many things that make you feel cool, men
Speaker 1: that culturally just convince you that it's the right thing
Speaker 1: to do. Um oh God reminiscent. This is where I
Speaker 1: get really sad because I'm just liked. Being a teenager
Speaker 1: was a fucking buss. The possibilities that were like just endless.
Speaker 1: And I feel like the more the older you get,
Speaker 1: the less time you obviously have, but the more like
Speaker 1: everything gets smaller, and like you can't have everyone in
Speaker 1: your life that you want to have in your life.
Speaker 1: You can't have friends around constantly. Everyone has a job,
Speaker 1: everyone has a wife, everyone has a husband, everyone has kids.
Speaker 1: Like you just it can't. You can't keep the party going.
Speaker 1: And there's something about that that, like, I think that
Speaker 1: that's why I'm still single and have the job that
Speaker 1: I have. I want to keep the party. I want
Speaker 1: to keep the hand going, not the party. I'm not
Speaker 1: a partier. I don't like going this is the way
Speaker 1: it's going to be forever now we're I don't like commitment. Um,
Speaker 1: And I think I'm right to not like commitment because
Speaker 1: it makes it so you can't change. I don't like
Speaker 1: commitment because it means that's what you're due to you
Speaker 1: till you die, and it reminds me of death. And
Speaker 1: that's why commitment scares me. But the commitment could be
Speaker 1: with you. Wow, you change, change, I know, but that
Speaker 1: but you'll always be with that person. And that means
Speaker 1: that there will never be anyone new in your life.
Speaker 1: There will never be another way. Especially with a romantic relationship.
Speaker 1: You'll never get that butterflies in your stomach of someone
Speaker 1: knew that you met, that Oh my god, what could
Speaker 1: this be? You'll never have the first date, you'll never have,
Speaker 1: a first kiss, You'll never have And that's and I'm
Speaker 1: only thinking about this for relationships because I literally that feeling.
Speaker 1: I get that feeling for a new job, for a
Speaker 1: new restaurant I find, for a new pet I get.
Speaker 1: But those things I can have for a new friend,
Speaker 1: I mean a new show, a new song. I those
Speaker 1: things I will not. I can do over and over
Speaker 1: and over. There's no limit. But a partner, you get
Speaker 1: one and then you have to keep it and then
Speaker 1: you can never And yeah, you can do like I
Speaker 1: was saying yesterday. You can role play and like pretended
Speaker 1: someone new, but you never really get the excitement of
Speaker 1: something new again. But here's the thing. I think, for me,
Speaker 1: at least, you get so much more out of the
Speaker 1: fact that you grow together and you have such an
Speaker 1: intense That's not what I was going to say. That's
Speaker 1: not what I was gonna say. What I was gonna say, Okay,
Speaker 1: what we're you gonna say? I was gonna say, um,
Speaker 1: what do you think about? No, you know I was
Speaker 1: going to say this, And I really do think it's
Speaker 1: a fucking real point that the new thing that you experience,
Speaker 1: all these new things you're experiencing, you're experiencing with someone else.
Speaker 1: So you can experience things except for the one new partner.
Speaker 1: But all those new things will feel great telling someone
Speaker 1: else how great they are. But I can always But
Speaker 1: if I had a partner, I could tell them about
Speaker 1: how great a song was. And I could still if
Speaker 1: they allowed me to have other partners, or of society
Speaker 1: allowed me to have other partners, or even I allowed
Speaker 1: myself to. But no, it's not it's not even about
Speaker 1: like like I want other partners. It's about the fact
Speaker 1: that it's it just won't work. You cannot in a
Speaker 1: in a in relationships having multiple partners, even if I
Speaker 1: wanted it, it's not sustainable. It doesn't work. It ends
Speaker 1: up like if I get a new friend, it doesn't
Speaker 1: deteriorate my other friends. If I get a new dog,
Speaker 1: it doesn't deteriorate. People don't if I have two kids.
Speaker 1: No one says you have two kids, But what about
Speaker 1: your one kid? Now you don't have enough love for
Speaker 1: do well? Maybe I do well? Where it works is
Speaker 1: so why can't I have enough love? You can, It's
Speaker 1: just you can't in society or whatever. However the hell
Speaker 1: we want to talk. You don't want my boyfriend have
Speaker 1: two girlfriends. You can't take it to the next level.
Speaker 1: You could have multiple you could be dating. If you
Speaker 1: have a boyfriend, you could date and having a crush
Speaker 1: for me, unless there's the opportunity that it could be forever,
Speaker 1: which is ironic because I don't want forever. But the
Speaker 1: fantasy that we could get married and all these things
Speaker 1: that I play out, if that is it possible because
Speaker 1: I have a partner in which that you can see
Speaker 1: from those things, it's like dreaming about flying. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna fantasize about flying. It's I can't fly. What I'm
Speaker 1: saying is you take if you take a partner out
Speaker 1: of it, you can have everything You're saying. You can
Speaker 1: have all these new experiences. You just can't make one solidified.
Speaker 1: You could have. There's no problem dating multiple people, no one,
Speaker 1: no one gets hurt. But what I'm talking about is
Speaker 1: I and that and you have the fantasy you of
Speaker 1: the one, and then you get the one. You can't
Speaker 1: have more. It's it's it's like I feel about Christmas.
Speaker 1: I never want to open my Christmas presents because then
Speaker 1: the fantasy of what it could be is over and
Speaker 1: you just have. But then you have the present. Nikki,
Speaker 1: go play with the present. The present isn't isn't as
Speaker 1: good as what the present could be. Ever to me,
Speaker 1: and there's something that I gotta work on in therapy.
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the show. That's a rap. I
Speaker 1: gotta go. That is that That's how I wrap every day.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to a podcast with Jason Nash. Is
Speaker 1: gonna be good. Yeah, just a little bit of a
Speaker 1: dash of me and him and some other people. I'm
Speaker 1: going to a studio down the street. Um, it's gonna
Speaker 1: start it too. And then I'm gonna go to pickle ball.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go hang out with my boyfriend and all
Speaker 1: of his friends. I hope he doesn't ask me to
Speaker 1: go on the court because I can't uh hold a
Speaker 1: racket and I don't have a score. A score would
Speaker 1: be a cute thing to wear to tennis. If I
Speaker 1: find a cute outfit, then maybe, um, I'll feel like
Speaker 1: Elaine Bennie, cool and chic and fun and nice. That's
Speaker 1: the end of this, and now go buff give me
Speaker 1: some ice another ice machine that my boyfriend fixed the
Speaker 1: other night because he was so efficient and he's a
Speaker 1: boy and I can't do it, and I've been delaying
Speaker 1: calling the super And this isn't a rap anymore. It's
Speaker 1: just the facts. Alligator, turtles, mice and cheese. Everyone has
Speaker 1: nothing if you don't get off your knees, stop crawling
Speaker 1: towards the sun and run to the moon. If we're
Speaker 1: not eating hard, we're not eating with spoons. All right, guys,
Speaker 1: thank you for listening. They'll be cut and cheers.