WEBVTT - Civic Cipher 061822 A Case for Reparations (Part 2) 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:05.680 And now watch move my mic back. You're like that. 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:11.879 Time we can strike waters from headquarters behind him and 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:13.520 then the borders. 0:00:13.560 --> 0:00:16.000 We're just tuning into civic cyc Cerri'm your host, Ramsey's 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:18.360 joh I go by the name q Wards. Indeed, a 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:21.920 lot more stick around for not the least of witches. 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:25.239 We're going to have a conversation about replations m M. 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:29.280 Long overdue in this space, and we're being long over 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:32.920 new period. We're being hopeful again today. Uh you know, 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:34.839 I had a conversation. I'll share a little bit about it, 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:38.919 but yes, always without hope, what are we really doing right? 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:41.839 I'm also going to talk about Loving Day, which just 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:44.519 passed on June twelfth. That's the day when interracial marriage 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:50.920 finally became legal in the United States. And that's a 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:54.840 good thing. We like that. Without interracial marriage, Maggie b 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:58.400 no one wouldn't be here, you know, So we we 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:00.200 like that. But you know, we do have to talk 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:04.000 about this, and we've chosen today to make it our 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:09.319 way Black history fact. But first and foremost, let's discuss 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:16.160 how to become a better ally Baba. Now we're gonna 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:19.800 start this off with a quote from Malcolm X. 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Reparations Okay, 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:46.960 your first thoughts, Q, talk to me reparations full hearted 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:52.560 hopelessness or full hearted hopefulness, whichever whichever you want to say, 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:57.360 the idea that this great country will ever come around 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:01.080 to the full hearted apology that would be required for 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:05.040 the conversation on reparations to be authentic and something that 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:10.080 might be real. I don't see happening in my lifetime. Now, 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:24.719 that is a fair posture to adopt. A lot of 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:32.720 people think reparations is money, and around here we get it. 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:38.440 We understand that narrative that might exist in your communities 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:42.279 listening to the show Black people always want some for free. 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:46.360 We know that we know that that's something that has 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:53.400 been placed on us unfairly. I believe for free is 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:57.640 an interesting, interesting right, it's super interesting. But you know, 0:04:57.720 --> 0:04:59.599 this is a thing that exists in the in the 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:03.080 in the world, in the you know, in the narrative 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:09.120 will say it that way. So let's say, for the 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:16.040 sake of argument, at least for now we see that. Okay, 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:18.760 there's something else here. And this is really where I 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:25.920 wanted to start with this one. Have you ever heard 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:31.040 about a lawsuit where a person sues another person. Ramses 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:35.520 sues Q because Ramses feels like he was wronged. I 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:39.640 was wrong, So I'm suing you, right, and I'm suing 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:44.039 you for ten thousand dollars, okay, And the court says, 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:46.080 at the end of it all, you know what, ramses 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:54.200 Q is guilty, he was culpable, he's responsible. We're not 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.960 going to give you ten thousand dollars, but we will 0:05:57.040 --> 0:06:00.200 rule in your favor the amount of one dollar. Have 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:05.200 you heard of those sorts of things happening before I have? 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:12.640 I have? Okay. Now, what it does is it documents. 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:17.800 It establishes that there was wrong committed, there was harm committed, 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:24.120 and that there is a set of facts that will 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:29.840 be chronicled insofar as this part of the story is concerned. Right, 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:33.760 and we can go from here, right, you can figure 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:40.040 out another way to seek you know, your recompense from 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:42.560 the offender or from the universe or whatever, but gain 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:48.279 your punitive damages elsewhere. However, however, we think that ten 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:50.719 thousand dollars is too much. As a court, as a 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:53.039 governing body, we think that's too much. But we will 0:06:53.080 --> 0:07:00.840 say that you were right. Okay. Now, the reason I 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:11.440 cite that example is because reparations, besides economically empowering black people, 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:16.920 a people who, as a result of systemic racism, enjoy 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:22.680 it wouldn't even if I said a fraction. Your mind 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:26.360 would think a third, but really a tenth of the 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:30.680 wealth doing the same jobs. You know what I mean? 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:33.840 These are systemic issues, you know, like if you look 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:36.800 at communities and environments or whatever, this is really what 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:40.240 we have. A tenth of the wealth. You know, if 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:45.400 you're college educated, you can expect to make less money 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:49.920 than a white high school dropout. If you're a college 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:53.000 educated black person, you can expect to make less money 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:54.760 than a white high school dropout. I want to make 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:57.960 sure I say that right for those that do listen 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:00.120 to my other show that I do on the Black 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:03.320 Information Network. I do a show called the Black Information 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:07.239 Network Daily Podcast. I go through all of these things. 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:11.240 I talk about all of the stuff housing discrimination, of course, 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:16.200 critical race theory, redlining, the War on drugs, environmental racism, 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:22.360 the GI Bill, unfair policing, unfair judicial sentencing, you know, 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:25.760 all of the things that disproportionately affect black people, the 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:31.920 systemic issues that we have to deal with in this country. 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:35.320 We haven't talked about medical despairity, we haven't talked about anything. 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:48.440 All of these things right now, besides remedying the economic disparities. 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:50.960 You know, maybe not all of them. You know, we 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:53.120 don't know what the number looks like, or how things 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:56.600 are divvied out or whatever. But besides addressing them, at least, 0:08:57.040 --> 0:09:00.640 what it does is like those court rulings that only 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:06.680 rule in favor of one dollar to the plaintiff or whatever. 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:14.720 It chronicles. It documents, Yes, there was an atrocity, there 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.680 was a wrong being committed, and it's the chronicling. It's 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:19.680 the coming to terms with the fact that we have 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:24.400 wronged this group of people. We go on record saying it. 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:26.319 This isn't no, we're going to give you the right 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:28.040 to vote, or we're going to stop killing you. No, 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:32.040 this is saying, yeah, we did that, we took advantage. 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:37.439 We committed human rights violations. There's no way around that one. 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:40.719 I don't care who you bought your slaves from. I 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:44.120 don't care how you describe the treatment of certain slaves 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:47.520 in certain households. It is a human rights violation. It 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:53.400 was then, it's still now, it was before then. Right, 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:58.800 So this country going on record saying yeah, we were wrong, 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:04.680 and we owe something to try to remedy that. That 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:09.640 part of reparations cannot be understated enough. We're not talking 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:12.400 about dollars yet, right, and this is where a lot 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:15.280 of people tune out of this conversation, So kudos to 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:21.439 you if you're still listening. But could you imagine how 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:26.480 impactful that would be? I imagine for myself, Q how 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:32.000 impactful that would have been to know growing up as 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:34.240 a child. Again, you got to teach this stuff to kids, 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:36.280 but you know, I was a kid once. I had 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:39.199 to learn these things. And the way I learned it was, well, 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:42.400 they took us from Africa. We got on boats and 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:45.560 we threw up oatmeal, and then we got here, and 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:49.680 then we had to work in fields. We didn't have 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:52.800 good clothes, we didn't get to bathe. They tore us apart. 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:55.600 And then after doing that for a few hundred years, 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:58.560 they were like, all right, well, you know cool, thanks, 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:01.800 get out there and try not to get killed while 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:05.200 we stack every law against you and change every you know, 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:10.080 deny you every opportunity to really make something of yourself. 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:12.600 And every time you managed to break through, we're going 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:14.280 to come through and burn your town down. You know, 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:16.199 this is kind of the story I was taught. Now, 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:19.720 imagine growing up in a world where maybe you can't 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:23.120 imagine this, but I can't. Where Ramses here's that information, 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:30.200 and also here's and the government said, yeah, that was 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:33.160 that was kind of foul. That was wrong that we 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:37.280 did that. So we're going to do something to try 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:41.559 to remedy it. How the optics of the narrative shift entirely. 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:49.160 Here's what I mean. For those of you who are 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:54.520 listening who are not black, you don't know, and you 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:59.040 could not know what it's like to feel like you 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:07.000 come from slaves. There is no honor in that. We 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:12.160 have found honor in that, but we know there is 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:15.479 no honor that we've had to build it for ourselves. 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:18.400 I think it is a human condition that we will 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:25.679 affirm our livelihood, our right to exist, our beauty, our brilliance, ourselves. Yes, 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:29.600 I think that that's what we have done. I think 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:31.680 it's a human condition. Let the tables turn in this 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:34.679 happen in some white folks. I do believe that they 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:38.280 would revert to type two and find their humanity. I 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:41.040 have to press pause mid sentence for it, because we 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:44.120 don't have to use our imagination. Things like this did 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:46.680 happen to white people? Oh yeah, yeah, you're right, and 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:51.400 they got reparations, they got they go ahead, open out loud, apology. Listen, 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:54.080 so we don't have to try to imagine a world 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:57.120 where that happened. It did, and we don't want to 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:59.120 compare traumas and make one. Yeah, that's not why we 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:03.000 would never do that yet, right, but it's such examples 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:07.120 exist for every other people, every other group of people 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:11.720 wronged by this country, except the black slave, who was 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:15.079 not only robbed of his dignity, self respect, honor, pride, 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:20.200 but his heritage, their heritage language. I told you about 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:23.560 a story when I lived in Barcelona, Spain, right, and 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:25.800 the gentleman asked me where I was from, and you 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:30.360 know me, I'm very, very proudly told him that Michigan Motown. 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:34.400 And he says, no, no, no, no, where are you from? 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:38.200 Which started to get a little confusing because I just 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:41.080 told him, like, where's your people from? He met, oh, okay, 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:47.960 my mother she's from making Georgia, small town south of Atlanta, Georgia, USA, 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:54.800 not Georgia Eastern Europe. So now he's confused because he's like, no, man, brother, like, 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:59.280 where where are you from? He's pointing to his hand, 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:01.920 the back of his head being the brown on the 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:06.920 back of his hand. He knows exactly where he's from right. 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:12.520 I sit there now confused, being the only person at 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:16.120 this table of maybe ten people who can't have a 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:22.720 conversation about where he's from. It was embarrassing. It was 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:28.880 gut wrenching, It was belittling. It was heartbreaking because I 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:34.120 realized that the black American is the only person on 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:38.480 the globe treated like cattle that cannot answer that question. 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:42.760 So hang on, let me get back in right here. 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:47.080 So imagine, like you listening, you know, maybe there's a 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:49.480 rich history. Maybe not, but maybe there is. Maybe you 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:54.000 know your lineage, you can trace your ancestry back to 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:59.600 some European country, and you know your great uncle forth 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:02.560 removed on the whatever side of what. I don't even 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:04.160 know how family trees work, so forgive me if that 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:06.440 sounds stupid, but you know, this person was a shoemaker 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.960 for King Leopold the fiftieth or whatever. I don't know. 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:12.000 That history isn't hard to keep though. You have to 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:15.360 remember they were not stolen from their families. Yeah, torn apart, 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:20.160 but displaced on purpose. But think connecting to that, Connecting 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:23.560 to that, it gives you a sense of identity, It 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.280 gives you something to aspire to something well, you know 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:28.480 my you know, we did this and you know, my 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:31.720 folks they came across the Atlantic and they did you know, 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:34.480 whatever it is. You know, there's incredible stories, the incredible journeys. 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:36.000 These people that you look up to, right, these are 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:39.880 your stories, right and the stories that we have, like 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:46.640 I know my father's father and I think we you know, 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:50.520 barely started kind of keeping records around my great grandfather. 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:53.960 You know, beyond that, it's just kind of was whatever, 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:58.360 you know, and those stories aren't necessarily like I'm very 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:00.400 proud of my father and his father, but I'm talking, 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:04.000 I'm speaking in general now, our stories. It's not like 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:07.360 we aspired, we were able to even aspire to do 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:11.040 much with the short amount of times and the social 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:15.400 conditions that were imposed on us by the government and 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:22.960 this society. Right back to reparations to acknowledge, Okay, there 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:28.400 was some wrong here and we're trying to remedy that. 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:35.480 Reparations kind of checks that box. So in other words, 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:38.480 when I come of age, when seven eight year old 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:42.920 Ramses starts learning about his history, and you know, why 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:46.800 does it feel like it might be cooler to be white? 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:50.680 Why do I'm not really loving this black thing just yet. 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:53.560 I don't know why I got to be this. This 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:56.280 is not that type. You know. I'm watching TV. You 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:59.240 know a little excuse me, subtle things that you learned 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:01.920 from society. I remember this. I remember that feeling when 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:04.680 I was five, like, dang, I wish I was white man. 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:07.159 That looks way better, you know what I mean? What 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:09.679 a sad thing, right, But I actually me, me, the 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:12.560 person you're listening to talk. I felt that five years old. 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:17.760 I remember it plain as day. So having that additional 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:21.800 element of knowing, hey, the government did this but also 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:24.480 acknowledged that it was wrong and has tried to kind 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:28.400 of remedy, at least you understand the why. Okay, we're 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:32.160 not born bad, we're not born to be poor, we're 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:36.080 not born to be There was something that happened, and 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:39.200 our current circumstance is the result of that. There was 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:43.640 an acknowledgment. It is documented now, it's chronicled into the narrative. 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:46.960 So before we even talk about money, let's talk about that. 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:49.560 Now that that's talked about, I want to read something 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:55.480 to you, all right. There was a preliminary reparations report 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:57.320 released at the beginning of June, and this is what 0:17:57.400 --> 0:18:00.480 I talked about on my show on the I Heart 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:02.120 Radio app. If you want to check it out again 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:11.479 the Black Information Network Daily podcast. I spoke with a 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:14.680 woman who's an expert on this. I remember her name 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:19.400 is Camilla. She uh had five hundred pages of factual 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:28.840 information and a qualified assessment of what it is based on. 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:32.720 Hers was for the state of California specifically, but they 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:37.239 also made a parallel one for the federal government as well. 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:41.280 And the truth is it should be a required moral 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:45.240 obligation for everyone to kind of familiarize, familiarize themselves and 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:50.879 engage with that information. You know, the facts are the facts. 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:56.159 Until we call it a problem, Well, we're never going 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:58.560 to come to a solution, right, It's just gonna we're 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:00.679 gonna keep, you know, doing the same thing over and 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:06.720 over again. The report's executive summary basically details that more 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:10.160 than fifty percent of the US presidents from seventeen eighty 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:13.960 nine to eighteen eighty five enslaved African Americans. Today, one 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:16.560 hundred and sixty years after the abolition of slavery, its 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:22.880 badges and incidents remain embedded in the political, legal, health, financial, educational, cultural, environmental, social, 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:26.080 and economic systems in the United States of America. Racist, false, 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:29.080 and harmful stereotypes created to support slavery continue to physically 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:35.640 and mentally harm African Americans today without remedies specifically targeted 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:39.040 to dismantle our country's racist foundations and heal the injuries 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:42.359 inflicted by colonial and American governments. The quote badges and 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:45.199 incidents of slavery and quote will continue to harm African 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:50.760 Americans in almost all aspects of life. The report goes 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:59.800 on for another four hundred ninety eight pages. Now there's 0:19:59.840 --> 0:20:03.520 a lot of people, there's a parallel narrative that exists 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:05.880 in this country. You know, a lot of we'll call 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:11.040 it Middle of America. Well, I was born poor. You know, 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:13.679 my family came here with nothing. We don't have. You know, 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:16.159 no one gave me a fair shot. I had to 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:18.040 work for everything I got. Right. I don't know why 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:20.440 this guy sounds like it's from Texas, but I suck 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:23.240 with accents. They'll bear with me, right, But you know 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:28.639 this person right, and from their perspective, they have a 0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:32.719 solid argument. This is why Donald Trump can come in 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:35.680 and entice these folks, because they have a very one 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:42.800 sided view of what has happened here. It's very self centered, 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:45.200 and I get it. Most human beings are. That's kind 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:47.720 of the nature of being human. We have you know, 0:20:47.760 --> 0:20:50.760 we don't have a hive mind. You know, we are individuals, right, 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:53.080 So I'm not mad at these people. I'm trying to 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:56.560 educate these people. I feel like that's the way, you know, again, 0:20:56.960 --> 0:21:00.720 forgiveness when they do come around, I know it. Don't 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:06.199 laugh at me. I think that it's possible. Man. But 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:09.159 you know, there's these people exist and they feel like, 0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:15.320 you know, everybody has to go through something. You know, 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:18.280 the world isn't fair, The world is not a fair place. 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:21.720 Get over it, you know, these sorts of things, and 0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:24.760 they don't recognize that. Every time we get over it 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:28.640 where the literally they come and burn the town or 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:32.720 there are systemic issues, like I say systemic issues, and 0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:35.600 I feel like that's a blanket term. There are specific 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:44.560 governmental policies enacted to precisely target black people in this country, 0:21:44.600 --> 0:21:48.080 some of which I've detailed already still today too, right 0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:51.320 now talking about back in the day. Right today, I've 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:52.960 talked to if you if you want to hit the 0:21:52.960 --> 0:21:55.800 website civicside for dot com download this episode. If you're 0:21:55.840 --> 0:21:58.000 on your favorite podcast and re listen. Because when I 0:21:58.000 --> 0:22:00.359 started this segment, I named a bunch of I rattle 0:22:00.359 --> 0:22:01.720 them off. I don't want to do it again because 0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:03.679 I forgot what I said. But there's more than just 0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:09.360 that they exist right now, Okay, Environmental racism is one 0:22:09.400 --> 0:22:11.080 that I'm working on as a piece for this show. 0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:15.600 That's something that happening right now still every day. Doesn't 0:22:15.640 --> 0:22:19.040 affect but white people. Does affect black people and poor people. 0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:21.680 You know, but poor people and black people tend to 0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:23.800 be the same, which is why money is such an 0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:29.600 important part of this specific conversation. Now, I want to 0:22:29.680 --> 0:22:35.320 jump ahead here, so recent report release. Okay. As part 0:22:35.359 --> 0:22:39.080 of California's Historic Assembly Bill thirty one twenty one, enacted 0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:42.199 in September twenty twenty, the California Task Force Study to 0:22:42.240 --> 0:22:45.439 Develop Reparations for Posals for African Americans was formed in 0:22:45.520 --> 0:22:48.000 charge of studying the institution of slavery and it's lingering 0:22:48.000 --> 0:22:51.160 negative effects on living African Americans as well as on society. 0:22:51.400 --> 0:22:54.000 The bill also requires a task Force to recommend appropriate 0:22:54.040 --> 0:22:58.600 remedies compensation, rehabilitation, and restitution for African Americans and with 0:22:58.640 --> 0:23:01.639 a special consideration for sens and persons enslaved in the 0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:05.560 United States, with the final report expected in twenty twenty three, 0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:09.120 building on months of public hearings, hours of expert, public 0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:12.359 and witness testimony, and numerous records submitted. On June first, 0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:15.439 the Reparation's Task Force released an interim report as well 0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:18.280 as a preliminary set of corrective recommendations, providing an in 0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:21.080 depth interview, the first of its kind, of the harms 0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:24.240 inflicted on African Americans in California, as well as the 0:23:24.280 --> 0:23:28.480 separate one which details the federal harms across the nation 0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:32.840 due to the ongoing legacy of slavery and systemic discrimination. 0:23:33.040 --> 0:23:39.119 Now again, should be excuse me, should be required reading 0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:43.480 for anybody with empathy it really wants to understand the why. 0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:46.040 But let's say you don't have that kind of time. 0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:47.879 I want to employ you one more time that you 0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:51.919 can check out the Black Information Network Daily podcasts. The 0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:55.919 Black Information Network has a daily podcast. It's hosted by 0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:58.080 Rams's job, so I want you to remember it. You 0:23:58.119 --> 0:24:00.760 can go there and download the this is probably a 0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:04.480 few days old, download the one on reparations and get 0:24:04.520 --> 0:24:09.399 all of this game because it's detailed. There explicitly for you, 0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:12.359 and you can understand even more than you do now. 0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:20.600 Moving on, what a show man gay from foreign white 0:24:20.640 --> 0:24:23.919 people fifty four billion dollars. We ain't got it for 0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:26.439 our own black people though, or our own poor. But 0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:32.360 it's neither here nor there. Interesting all right, way, Black 0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:36.200 history fact. This one comes from hip Hop Weekly. We're 0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:39.240 sponsored by Hip Hop Weekly magazine. By the way, shout 0:24:39.240 --> 0:24:42.320 out to the unlucky birdos. One time, Okay, one time. 0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:46.560 June twelfth is a loving day. This is the day 0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:50.239 when interracial marriage finally became legal in the US. So 0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:56.000 as a fun fact, Maggie b Noan's parents. This is 0:24:56.000 --> 0:24:59.320 Againner's our show producer. They're a product of the success 0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:01.919 of this case. There are almost forty years happily married. 0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:06.879 And today's story comes from Britannica dot com. So. In 0:25:07.000 --> 0:25:10.240 Loving versus Virginia, which was decided on June twelfth, nineteen 0:25:10.280 --> 0:25:13.240 sixty seven, the US Supreme Court unanimously struck down Virginia's 0:25:13.280 --> 0:25:16.960 lawbery prohibiting interracial marriages as a violation of the Fourteenth Commendment. 0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:20.920 The appellans, Richard and Mildred Loving of Caroline County, have 0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:23.680 married in Washington DC in June nineteen fifty eight, and 0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:27.719 then returned to Virginia, where they were arrested. After pleading guilty, 0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:30.240 They were forced to leave the state. The American Civil 0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:33.520 Liberties Union, or the ACLU shout out to the ACLU 0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:36.440 one time filed motions and appeals on their behalf, beginning 0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:39.000 in nineteen sixty three, and after the Virginia Supreme Court 0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:42.520 of Appeals ruled against Lovings the Lovings in nineteen sixty six, 0:25:42.600 --> 0:25:45.480 the US Supreme Court heard their arguments, and the case 0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:48.720 came after nearly three hundred years of legislation in Virginia 0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:54.040 regulating interracial marriage and carefully defining which citizens could legally 0:25:54.119 --> 0:25:57.160 claim to be white. Two US Supreme Court cases, Paced 0:25:57.240 --> 0:26:00.080 versus Alabama in eighteen eighty three and meritarm Sorry and 0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:04.119 Maynard versus Hill in eighteen eighty eight upheld the constitutionality 0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:06.480 of such laws. In nineteen twenty four, the Act to 0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:10.639 Preserve Racial Integrity banned interracial marriage in Virginia. What a 0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:16.240 weird name, Jesus, The Act to Preserve Racial Integrity. Maybe 0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:19.040 little subtle things like that were why I thought it 0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:22.080 might be cool to be white when I was a kid. Anyway, 0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:26.640 I'll continue while defining a white person as someone who 0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:33.520 has no discernible non white ancestry. It was this law that, 0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:38.040 in the US Supreme Court ruling said denied Virginia's fundamental 0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:41.920 freedom to marry. Loving versus Virginia is a landmark case 0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:44.160 both in the history of race relations in the United 0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:47.320