1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, Paul Calbasi joins me, 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: or should I say Paully play by play? He was 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: on the call Sunday. So what happened on Christmas night? 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: Was it more about the Cardinals making mistakes? Or was 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: it more about Tom Brady being Tom Brady? Probably a 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: combination of both. It's Cardinals Cover two, episode six twenty nine, 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: and it starts now Welcome to Cardinals Cover two, hitting 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: the backfield and down he goes for a loss. JJ 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: Watt Nailed It. Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hun 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: Day proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona 11 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Acy Cardinals dot com, Slash podcasts. He's 12 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: at the ten half of five. He's in again, so 13 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: for Harry Magic. Whoa, here's Craig Griolou right off the 14 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: top here Paul need ask, how is the voice? You 15 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: know what? It's sort of like Tom Brady? You know, um, 16 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: it's it's under duress. But hopefully I'll make it through 17 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: without getting sacked. How about that? That's my answer on 18 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: that one. How did Tom Brady not get sacked in 19 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: that game? Craig Griliu. I want to know that he 20 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: has about as much mobility right now as me and 21 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: my voice, and and and somehow he evades and eludes 22 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: going down and not even one time in the game. 23 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: It's remarkable hit four times. But yeah, not brought down 24 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: to the game, not brought down to the ground. Excuse 25 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: me now when you say the voice, you know, not 26 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: typical Paul Calvic voice. Now, is that because three hours 27 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: of play by play or three hours of play by 28 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: play and carring ron will flee? Yeah, that's that's that's 29 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: a great point. You know, I'd like to pop off. 30 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: And but let's put it this way. Dave Pash asked 31 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: this morning how the broadcast go, and I said, well, um, 32 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: let's see here. I'd like to have basically every play 33 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: call back for a redo. But otherwise, Craig, it's very um, 34 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: it's not unlike at least to me. This is my 35 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: analogy because it's as close as I'll ever get to 36 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: play in the NFL. Is that sensation of a rookie 37 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: where everything's moving really quick? Dave Pash is really good. 38 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: And what did the best people their professions do. They 39 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: make it sound and look very easy, which it is 40 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: not so we gave. We went down swinging on Christmas Night, 41 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: Paully play by play, and you know, look, wasn't the 42 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: greatest game We expected that. It's come to be known 43 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: as the Calvic factor. Whether it was when I filled 44 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty against the forty nine ers in Week 45 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: sixteen and that was a horrendous effort by the Cardinals, 46 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: whether it was Christmas Night a year ago with the 47 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: Colts and that was a lackluster effort. And then you 48 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: had a six sixth game going into the fourth quarter 49 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: of this So you know what, I wasn't shocked. I 50 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: really wasn't. And ultimately the way it finished, I wasn't 51 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: shocked either. How many game winning drives is that by 52 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: Tom Brady in his career fifty seven? That was the 53 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 1: fifty seventh game winning drive for the greatest of all time. 54 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: Let me just say this, though, one I enjoyed listening 55 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: to you and Will on the broadcast, sitting in the 56 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: press box, put the earbuds in listening to the radio 57 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: broadcast watch in real time, and I thought you handled 58 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: it very very well. It is not easy, but I 59 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: enjoy listening and I thought it was a job well done, 60 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: and it was of no faults of what we were 61 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: watching on the football field. Although I'll say this, compared 62 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: to those two previous games that you did play by 63 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: play for, you cannot say the effort was not there 64 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: last nights on Christmas Nights. In that Cardinals nineteen sixteen 65 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: loss to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in overtime, the Cardinals, Yeah, 66 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: they are not winning ball games, but they are bringing 67 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: it each and every week, and you know what, in 68 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: a different sort of way. That's also remarkable because in 69 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: twenty twenty there were a couple of those games. So 70 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: the Cardinals did not bring the juice that Week sixteen 71 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: loss against the Niners. You could even contend the Week 72 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: seventeen loss at the Rams, John Wolford beat him. Now 73 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: Kyler was out of that game most of that game 74 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: with injury. I think it's semi deflated the team. And 75 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: then a year ago at Detroit, I mean that was 76 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: da that game in terms of energy at against Carol 77 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: Line at home last year, that was another game energy 78 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: that hasn't really happened this year, at least to my recollection, 79 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: unless I'm missing it. But I'm putting my finger to 80 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: the win I'm trying to recollect. There hasn't been that 81 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: game where I've been on the sideline just lamenting the 82 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: fact that guys are not into the game. That hasn't happened. Now. 83 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: There's been plenty of self inflicted type stuff and mistakes, 84 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: and there's plenty to talk about. But no, I don't 85 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: think you can hold the Cardinals accountable or responsible for 86 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: not bringing the energy, effort and intensity this season. There 87 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: have been two games in which the Cardinals were just 88 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: simply outplayed too much talent on the other side Week 89 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: one against Kansas City and the forty nine ers in 90 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: Mexico City when the outcome the scoreboard just was too lopsided. 91 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: But other than that, the Cardinals have been in most 92 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: games this season, especially lates, and twice now in the 93 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: last four games, this Cardinals team has had a lead 94 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, and for me, it was that 95 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: ten point lead with ten forty six to go in 96 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. You're up sixteen to six, and you 97 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,679 Speaker 1: do not score another point the rest of the way, 98 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: and you allow Tom Brady to do what Tom Brady 99 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: does best. He did not look good at all through 100 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: those first three plus quarters, and listening to Wolf mention 101 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: it time in and time again, because we don't see 102 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: that a lot. We have not seen that hardly at 103 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: all in Brady's twenty three year career. But he was 104 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: not good at all. But when it mattered most fourth 105 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: quarter and over time, he was on target. And the 106 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: Buccaneers won because in the first quarter when he missed 107 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: Tulio Jones towards the back pylon on that corner route, Wow, 108 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: that was shocking. And there was a lot more of 109 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: that through the course of the game. The downfield passing 110 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: attack was not there. Both of Marco Wilson's interceptions great plays, 111 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:52,119 Speaker 1: but those weren't classic Tom Brady pinpoint throws either. So 112 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting going into the game talking to 113 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: guys in the locker room. How many guys said, because 114 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: you look at the fact that Tom Brady has been 115 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: sat the least of any quarterback in the NFL. And 116 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: they said, yeah, but that's at the expense of the 117 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: downfield passing attack. You know, guys who watched the film, 118 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: so there are remarkable how many times that a Mike 119 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: Evans or Chris Godwin his open downfield and Brady doesn't 120 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: target them. Well, in this game, he targeted them downfield, 121 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: he just couldn't connect. He just didn't have the accuracy, 122 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: didn't didn't have that touch on the ball. And so 123 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: for that that being the case, everyone wants to point 124 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: to the potential playoff run that might be waiting a 125 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: Tampa team that could easily enter as the division champion 126 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: a number four seed, because what did they do in 127 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty They entered as a number five seed, and 128 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: they won three road playoff games and then hosted Super 129 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: Bowl fifty five in their place, right? Could they do 130 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: that again? When you consider how unproven the rest of 131 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: the quarterback field is potentially in the NFC playoff picture, 132 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: A Kirk Cousins, even a Jalen Hurts doesn't have a 133 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: playoff win on his resume. You look around at a 134 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones of the Giants make it so that's why 135 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: everybody fears Aaron Rodgers I think right now in the 136 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: NFC and Tom Brady, until this game against the Cardinals, 137 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: I would have put him in that same category. But 138 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: Tom Brady looked nothing like Aaron Rodgers in Week sixteen, 139 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: not even close. And that final drive in overtime six 140 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: of six for sixty nine yards just picking apart that 141 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: Cardinals defense that was minus Marco Wilson. So that needs 142 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: to be said from the top. But again, you had 143 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: the ability to close this out in regulation, not allow 144 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: Brady to do what Brady does best, because as he 145 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: said postgame, if we keep it close in the fourth quarter, 146 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,559 Speaker 1: we know we've got a shot. I'll correct that amend 147 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: it just a little bit. If he keeps it close 148 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, he knows he's got a shot 149 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: because no other quarterback can do what Tom Brady does. 150 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: And Cliff Kingsbury mentioned it postcame. Tom Brady does what 151 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: Tom Brady does, and you give him opportunity after opportunity, 152 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: he's going to find a way and its fans shows. 153 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: It's like playing a quarterback who's a head coach. He 154 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: knows where to go to the ball with the ball, 155 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: he knows what's coming his way. Yeah, it's Kenny. Deliver 156 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: the ball on the money, you know, in sync, in 157 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: stride with the receiver. Now, when the urgency was there, 158 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: needed to be there. Like you said, he put together 159 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: two great drives and they ended up winning the game. 160 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: So but you're right, there were the Cardinals up sixteen six. 161 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: It's early ten plus minutes to go in the game, 162 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: and it just depends which you want to pick as 163 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: the turning point. Zaven Collins after the game sighted the 164 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette forty four yard catch and run to start 165 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: that touchdown drive to make it sixteen thirteen. Everybody wants 166 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: to point to the third and one, to the Tampa 167 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: forty two and the failed pitch, and I get it. 168 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: It definitely was a turning point. In Cliff Kingsbury cited 169 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: it himself after the game, and yeah, NFL players should 170 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: be able to execute a quick pitch. They've been doing 171 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: that since, you know, peewee football. A quarterback and a 172 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: running back. So that's disappointing a multiple different levels. I 173 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: get it not giving it to James Connor in that situation. 174 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: He had just touched the ball three straight plays. I 175 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 1: get it. At the same time, he's your Pro Bowl 176 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: running back. And if you're putting Trace McSorley under center 177 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: and you want to use him as a decoy, I 178 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: personally would have just kept Tracey mcsoy the same sort 179 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: of zone read that Cole McCoy used against Denver to 180 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: his own demise and suffered the concussion. I think is 181 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: a much better play for a trace McSorley in that situation, 182 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: give him the option of reading and reacting and whether 183 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: it gives it to James Conner or he keeps it himself. 184 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: He's a customer to running a lot of that in 185 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: his Penn State days. So we can argue the play call, 186 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: but ultimately you know what you should be able to 187 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: execute the pitch. Although Kyle Vannabosh on the drive home, 188 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 1: I heard you guys talking about it, and I never 189 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: saw a replay, but according to KVB there were two 190 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: or three defenders right in the path account to Ingram 191 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 1: and it probably wouldn't have been a first down anyway. 192 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: It would probably likely would have been a loss if 193 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: he to get it to Ingram, and maybe even a 194 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: loss if you had given it to Connor up the middle, 195 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: because I think the Buccaneers they knew what the Cardinals 196 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: wanted to do, get that first down, keep the clock running, 197 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: they were going to keep it on the ground, they 198 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: were going to run the football. Yet at the same time, yeah, 199 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: James Connor has been the guy, especially in that second half, 200 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: as far as what he was able to do running 201 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: the football and running it very very well, but you 202 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: brought it up. He had carried the ball three straight times. 203 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: Do you risk a fourth? Is he a better option 204 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: with that fourth carry or to try to catch the 205 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: defense off guard, which I think is what Cliff and 206 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: the coaching staff were thinking. But maybe they were overthinking 207 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: things a little bit. And we've seen that around the 208 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: league where you kind of get too cute because you 209 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 1: think what I'm thinking, So I'm gonna do opposite of 210 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: what you think I'm thinking, and then all of a 211 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: sudden it blows up. And that's what happened on Christmas night. 212 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: But if you're Ingram, you need to make sure you 213 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: secure that football, no question, because look at that part 214 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: of the fuel. You had a fourth and short you 215 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: could have gone for. That was third and one. Let's 216 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: say stopped for non game. Let's say loses a yard 217 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: or two. At least it's still your football and you 218 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: have the option of going forward on four down. You're 219 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: probably out of the range, or at least you know 220 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: you're not going to try Matt Prador field goal at 221 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: that point. Had Greg Dortch was a heck of an 222 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: option all game long, and even some of those end 223 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: of rounds and jet sweeps to Greg Dortch were very effective, 224 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: and so I wouldn't have hesitated to, you know, to 225 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: go ahead and incorporated Greg Dortch. But if he hit 226 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: zoom out, third down was a problem. Cardinals are what 227 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: five and nineteen on third down, and more often than not, 228 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: Todd Bowles was dialing it up against that young game 229 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: experienced quarterback Trace McSorley, starting with a blindside sack from 230 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: behind by Anthony Nelson where the Cardinals gave up the 231 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 1: football where he was sacked instantly on that third down, 232 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: and that was the pattern. I'm not sure he saw 233 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: a similar third down scheme twice in that game, and 234 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: he was consistently getting numbers and getting blitz from somewhere. 235 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: At some point you can argue, and I'll do my 236 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 1: best here on Cardinals cover two percent to by a 237 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals that that blind side sack, 238 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: strip sack, that turnover was more costly than any of 239 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: the others that the Cardinals committed. Now, the other one 240 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: was the hell Mary at the end of the first 241 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: half or the end of regulation, and that was just basically, 242 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: let's see what we can do here. I do want 243 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: to bring that up though as far as potentially kicking 244 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: a field goal there. But first things first, that fumble. 245 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: You're in the red zone, pall. At worst, you kick 246 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: a field goal, tie the game up at three, you 247 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: come up with nothing. Yes, it's early in the game, 248 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: but those three points that you lost didn't even have 249 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: an opportunity to get three, let alone six or seven 250 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: with the pat I point to that fumble again, no 251 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: faults of trace. McSorley. Looked like Josh Jones slid inside 252 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 1: and just let Nelson have a free shot on the quarterback. Now, 253 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: whatever the line call was that allowed Jones to kind 254 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: of slide a little bit, I don't know, but it 255 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: certainly you never want to see your edge rusher from 256 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: the oonent have a clear path to the quarterback who's 257 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: not expecting it from the blind side, unless that is 258 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: on the quarterback and he has to be aware that 259 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: if that guy comes, the ball has to be out 260 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: of my hand. It's to your point, we don't know 261 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: exactly whose assignment it was. It looked to be at 262 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: Josh Jones mistake perhaps, but it's also hard to think 263 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: that he would make that mistake in that situation. So 264 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: who knows either way. You're right, it was costly and 265 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: it took points off the score board, especially considering the 266 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: way that Matt Prater has been kicking the ball. Now, 267 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: what do you make of the decision to go for 268 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: the hail Mary versus a field goal attempt, which I 269 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: think on the broadcast I had it around seventy yards 270 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: at least high sixties would have been sixty eight to 271 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 1: seventy yards in terms of a field goal attempt. Right, 272 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: you react in real time when you get questions on 273 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: Cardinal Talk, or you're reacting in real time at that 274 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: certain situation. So you're right, and I mentioned it on 275 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: Cardinal Talk. At that point at the forty four yard line, 276 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: you're looking at a seventy one seventy two yard attempts, 277 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: although Jemalm one hundred reminded me afterwards. Look, it was 278 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: third and ten at the Cardinals forty nine. There was 279 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: a false starts on Hollywood Brown that backed him up 280 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: five yards to the forty four. Okay, so now let's 281 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: try to kick a field goal from your own forty 282 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: nine yard line, and that's still a sixty six or 283 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: sixty seven yard attempt. Darren Urban asked, Matt Prator about it, 284 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: and Prador keep in mind his career long is sixty 285 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: four in Denver, mile high into the first half. It 286 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: was in twenty thirteen. We're almost ten years after the fact, 287 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: and now you're gonna ask him to go sixty seven, 288 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: sixty eight or sixty nine yards. That's a little bit 289 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: too much to me. Although Prator went asked, said no, 290 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: I think the right decision was made. Then he added 291 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: with a smile, I would have been willing to try. 292 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: Of course he would have been willing to try, but 293 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: I think the risk versus reward a hell, Mary, you 294 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: know you're throwing it up for grabs. There's no way 295 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers intercept it, return it along field goal. From 296 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: that distance, it's more of a line drive, more likely 297 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: to get blocked, or you send someone back near the 298 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: crossbar and you catch it and then you kind of 299 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: see what happens and opens up in front of you 300 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: for Tampa Bay. So now we did get a couple 301 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: of calls as far as why did you not attempt 302 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: a long field? Well, but this wasn't sixty plus. This 303 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: was sixty five darn near seventy yards. And Prater, who's 304 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: been nursing a hip issue for most of this season. 305 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: I don't care if he's one hundred percent healthy. That's 306 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: just not a kick I'm willing to risk at this stage. No, 307 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: especially with a bunch of offensive linemen out there. And 308 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: then there's a possibility of a kick six and I 309 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: think of Auburn Alabama back in the day, and there's 310 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: that's certainly a catastrophic way to lose a game. And 311 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: you're right, it's thirty eight year old Matt Prator. It's 312 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: not twenty eight or twenty nine year old Matt Prator. 313 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: At the same time, just hammered a fifty six yard 314 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: fuel goal that definitely had room to spare. Now, did 315 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: I have ten yards worth to spare? I don't know. 316 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: I do know in Mexico City. I asked him, as 317 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: the game was about to start, right before the rain 318 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: started in Mexico City, whether he was capable of hitting 319 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: from seventy plus in Mexico City and whether he had 320 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: actually attempted one in the pregame warm up. In his 321 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: response was something along the lines up Now, I didn't 322 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: need to. I just I kicked a sixty five yarder 323 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: and it was halfway up the net, So that's the 324 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: way he judges it. Where does it hit the net? 325 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: And it was halfway up the net, then he's like, 326 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: I got at least another ten yards in me, so 327 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: you can make it. He was a fifty six yard Wait, 328 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: a fifty five yard or he hit in Denver the 329 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: week before, but again that's altitude. Ye. So, And that 330 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: fifty six yarder he made in the first quarter, according 331 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: to the NBC said it would have been good from 332 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: sixty three, so you're still five yards shorter than what 333 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: you were looking at at sixty eight sixty nine yard. 334 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: And that fifty three yard he made in the second 335 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: quarter it hit the left upright and went in. So 336 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: all this is again in real time. And whether how 337 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: much of a legit discussion was made, I don't. I 338 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: don't think there was much of one. The only option 339 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: you had was potentially Hall Mary Part two. I mean 340 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: I would have loved to have seen it. I think 341 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: everybody would have. It would been interesting, would have been intriguing, 342 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: or would have been entertaining. But in terms of the 343 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: risk reward, no, it didn't favor the Cardinals, and it 344 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: really could have resulted in a horrendous ending on a 345 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: kick six or a block. So I understand why they 346 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: elected to go against that sort of decision. The problem 347 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: is that guess what on the other sideline was Tom 348 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: Brady and so you know you're taking your chances in overtime. 349 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: Was it more Tom Brady or was it more of 350 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: the Cardinals self inflicted whether it's the three turnovers, the 351 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: six penalties, not so much how many penalties, but when 352 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: they occurred. Because I'll go back again to that first 353 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: quarter when the Cardinals defense stopped Leonard Fournette on second, third, 354 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: and fourth down, needing just one yard turnover on downs, 355 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: Cardinals on offense get the ball back, but the first play, 356 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: Max Garcia gets called for holding. Now it's first and twenty. 357 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: That complimentary football, that momentum within the game, This is 358 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: back to back plays. Those are the little things that 359 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: I think eat coaches alive. And it's different guys at 360 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: different times taking their turn to make their one mistake 361 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 1: of the game. And it's enough to lose games. And 362 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: it's been chronic. Cardinals next game is going to be 363 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: on New Year's Day. If there's a New Year's resolution 364 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: over the last two games, it's got to be to 365 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: eliminate that caliber of play which will get you every time. 366 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: And so when it's impossible for a coach to actually 367 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: pinpoint one or two things, you know, because it's so 368 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: many different guys at different times, that's a problem. And 369 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: then you have to figure out okay, and that's a difficult, 370 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: difficult problem to a race. So once again, the energy 371 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: was there, the intensity was there, but that sort of 372 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 1: execute and or focus attention to detail has not been 373 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: there consistently enough. Why not is that on the player? 374 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,479 Speaker 1: Is it on the process? That's something the Cardinals are 375 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: going to have to determine in the off season. One 376 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: other issue with that Cardinals offense, and again in real 377 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: time as you guys are calling the action, the lack 378 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: of catches for DeAndre Hopkins, and it was I believe 379 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: what third quarter when you guys went down to the 380 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: sideline for Danny Serak and she mentioned that again, it's 381 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: one hundred and forty four straight games, DeAndre Hopkins has 382 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: it caught at least one pass. He doesn't have a 383 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: catch yet did not happen until there were less than 384 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: eight minutes to go in the fourth quarter. One catch 385 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: for four yards on ten targets. Now that sounds a 386 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 1: little off. But if you watched it, yeah he was targeted. 387 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: But how many of those targets, Paul, were there really 388 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: catchable passes? There were low throws, high throws, not even 389 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: the great arm reach that Hopkins has the wingspan some 390 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: of those classes weren't even within the vicinity of number ten. 391 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: It was remarkable in a poor way, I mean honestly, 392 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: like how far off target could some of those passes 393 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: really be? And by remarkable, I say the chemistry and 394 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: connection that existed between McSorley and Greg Dortch was on 395 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: the money. It was clean, it was in sync. Now 396 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: a lot of those obviously weren't as downfield you know, 397 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: has it been? DeAndre Hopkins is running a different role 398 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: and a lot of it. I think what I saw 399 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: he was running more of the X and Hollywood Brown 400 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: was doing some of that as well. And Dortch is 401 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: almost exclusively an inside slot type receiver. I get it. 402 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, it was hard to watch. It was every 403 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: bit as ugly as the staff page one catch on 404 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: ten targets and at least half of those targets were uncatchable. 405 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: Why and what is a realistic path for improvement over 406 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: these last two games. You know how much of this 407 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: is a byproduct of I don't know the process with 408 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: which de hop practices. Was he out there, was he 409 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: out there in the full speed sessions? How many full 410 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: speed sessions really were there at this point in this season. 411 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: You're so banged up, You're one of the top three 412 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: most injured teams in the NFL. You're doing a lot 413 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: of walkthroughs, and so, okay, is there really an opportunity 414 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 1: for a quarter new quarterback and receiver to get in sync, 415 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: because I'm guessing that was existing chemistry between Dortch and 416 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: trace McSorley spend the last four or five months either 417 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: training camp, preseason games running the scout team. We talked 418 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: about it early in the game that we wouldn't be 419 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: surprised if Dortch was his go to guy, just the 420 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: comfort level that trace McSorley would have with the Greg Dortch, 421 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 1: And that's exactly what played out. How often how rare 422 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: I should say is a DeAndre Hopkins one catch game 423 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: Paul has not happened since October second, twenty sixteen, against 424 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. He had one catch for four yards 425 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 1: on six targets. Only happened six times in d Hop's 426 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: correc Yeah, I went down a little bit of a 427 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: rabbit hole on this Monday morning because it's been so 428 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: rare to see number ten not show up in the 429 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: stat sheet. Do you know who the quarterback was? I 430 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: do not, because I'm just an very good question, though 431 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna guess and surmise it was the lack 432 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: of quarterbacks and there might have been a backup playing 433 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: for Houston at that point, because if I'm not mistaken, 434 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: there was at least one, if not two games where 435 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: that happened to Larry Fitzgerald in between Kurt Warner and 436 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer. It was so bad and you got to 437 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter and Larry's historic streak was on the line, 438 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: they had to do exactly what they did with d 439 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: Hop just step off the line and get a quick 440 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: bubble screen just to get in the stat box and 441 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: get a catch and preserve your games in a row streak, because, yeah, 442 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: that was in serious jeopardy at that point. Neither Hopkins 443 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: nor Hollywood had a catch in the first half, and 444 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: that's something that we discussed at halftime with Kyle Vanninbosch. 445 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: You have to get those two involved. I did find 446 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,959 Speaker 1: it interesting because when you look at the final snap counts, 447 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown, who did not start, only played fifty of 448 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 1: the seventy six offensive snaps. That is eyebrow raising until 449 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: you readasy Cardinals dot Com and Hollywood told Darren. Darren asked, 450 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: was the groin injury that popped up on the injury 451 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: report late in the week a factor? Brown said no, quote, 452 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: I was late to a meeting, so coach decided to 453 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: cut my playing time. Quote. So I did not see that. 454 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: You don't have the chemistry with Dhap. You don't have, 455 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: and you do have chemistry at least somewhat with Hollywood. 456 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: Yet he's not available because he showed up late to 457 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: a meeting. So the accountability within that locker room where 458 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: is it? And those are little things that don't manifest 459 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: themselves until after the fact, and all of a sudden 460 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: you're looking at, Oh, that's why the Cardinals went into 461 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: overtime and lost by three, And look how often is 462 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: that happening? How rife is that through this team this year? 463 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: When we talk about different guys taking their turn to 464 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: make their different mistake, Okay, how much of it is 465 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: a byproduct of that, it starts with that commitment, you know, 466 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: on the practice and meeting level. Yeah, I don't know. 467 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: Once again, that's something you're gonna have to ascertain in 468 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: the off season. And right now, I'm guessing that the 469 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: two guys who are replacing Steve Kim for the moment 470 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: and Quinn Harris and Adrian Wilson, that's one of the 471 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: things they're looking at. And so, and when you're here 472 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: a Michael Bidwell address the team and say, I know 473 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: who's cutting corners and who isn't. Yeah, I think that's 474 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: the sort of instance that he's referring to right there. 475 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: There's no doubt they're they're keeping score. So and look, 476 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown wants a new contract. Yes, he's under contract 477 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: next year. No, it's not what he wants. It's one 478 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: of the reasons that he forced his way out of Baltimore. 479 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: He wanted to be in an offense in a place 480 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: where he thought he could flourish it as wide receiver 481 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: one or at least one B. And so these are 482 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: all things that are being taken into consideration. And did 483 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: the Cardinals need a productive Loywood Brown in that game? Yeah? 484 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: And he finally finally had a big play obviously, the 485 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: forty seven yard catch, and it was a heck of 486 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: a throw by Trace McSorley, nearly the longest pass play 487 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: of the year for the Cardinals, But that ties to 488 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: Greg Dortch in Mexico City. Correct. Correct, Although I say 489 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: what we saw on Sunday was a true deep shot 490 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: because you remember the Dorch was a catch and a 491 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: lot of running of Greg Dorge in Mexico City. This 492 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: was a true pass through the air, great throw, great 493 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: catch on the far sideline. But again, that was one play. 494 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: There needed to be more of those plays, Trace mcstoley. 495 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: When you're down to your third string quarterback, Paul, you 496 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: need others to step up. You need a d Hop 497 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: to step up, a Hollywood Brown to step up, a 498 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: James Connor to step up. It can't be Greg Dorge 499 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: being your number one wide receiver. You're number one threat. 500 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: Regardless of the chemistry that those two have. Dortch can't 501 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: be the guy that sits there and has over one 502 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: hundred yards from scrimmage. Now, that's the way the play materialized, 503 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: but that's not winning football, especially against a Buccaneers team. Yeah, 504 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: and it was interesting, Yeah, I wasn't really sure what 505 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: to think of how the game plan would be formulated 506 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: with Trace McSorley. How many QB keepers would there be? 507 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 1: There weren't nearly as many as I thought. I don't 508 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: know what the official line was on McSorley in terms 509 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: of rushing. In fact, I'm looking at it right here. 510 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: He had seven rushing attempts McSorley, and honestly, if you 511 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: would have told me that there would have been double digits, 512 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been surprised. And he didn't keep the 513 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: ball nearly as much as I thought. And honestly, at 514 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: halftime that Cardinal's offense was struggling to such a degree, 515 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: and at halftime his numbers were so poor for a 516 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: Trace McSorley. He was ten to twenty one for seventy 517 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: nine yards passing and his passer rating was fifty seven 518 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: point four. We kept an eye out for David Blow 519 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: to start that second half and whether he was warming up. 520 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: I know Danny Serek was down there keeping an eye 521 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: on that. And you know, the Cardinals obviously got some 522 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: offense going in that second half, but there was a 523 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: good stretch there where we were wondering if the guy 524 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: who got some first team reps in practice wouldn't be 525 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: making his debut for the Cardinals in the fourth quarterback 526 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: to play in the regular season this year for the Cardinals. 527 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: I believe it was after the second three and out 528 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: by that Cardinals offense to begin the second half when 529 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: Wolfe did mention I would not be surprised if we 530 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: saw David blow. And that's when I started with the 531 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: binocular start looking for that. Okay, where is he is 532 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: he warming up? Because you're right, it was not good 533 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: and at that point you're still the game is tied 534 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: at six, but your offense had not been moving against Yeah, 535 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: a Buccaneers defense, but still minus via AA and just 536 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: not the typical defense that we had seen out of 537 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: Todd Bowles's group over the last couple of years. The 538 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: Cardinals again later in that second half, able to move 539 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: the football, but just not enough playmakers. It's great Greg Dortsch. 540 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 1: Play usage is something that I know a lot of 541 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: people discussed, and they've been discussing this all season long, 542 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: because they'll have a good game and then they'll disappear, 543 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: and that's what happened recently. He had a good game 544 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: in Mexico, City, then play ten snaps the next two games, 545 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: and then Christmas Night he plays fifty eight snaps and 546 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: is the number one playmaker on the football field. Curious 547 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: as to why that seems to be happening a lot 548 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: this season, but make no mistake, when Dorts is on 549 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: the field, when he is given an opportunity, he makes 550 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: the most of it. And usually it's either him or 551 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: Aj Green. AJ Green did have twenty snaps in the game, 552 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: and maybe a lot of that had to do with 553 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: the fact that Hollywood Brown didn't get a full full 554 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: game because of the late to a meeting and so, 555 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: but yeah, it's usually been one or the other. You know, 556 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: if there's room for Greg Dortch and there's no room 557 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: for AJ Green in vice versa. In this game, you 558 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: know that was a little different. But look, the other 559 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: aspect was the tight end And talking with some people 560 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: going into this game, Lavante David and Devin White, you 561 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: know they're not the greatest in coverage, and Lavante David 562 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: is a little older, and they thought maybe a Trey 563 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: McBride might have been a little more productive, even a 564 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: James Connor in the past game downfield a little bit 565 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: more as those inside backers would be covering those two guys, 566 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: and it didn't quite get that sort of production as 567 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: maybe we expected. When the game kicked off, McBride three 568 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: catches seventeen yards, Connor seven catches forty one yards. So 569 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: he was a little bit more productive than a Trey McBride. 570 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: And that was someone we spotlighted going into this week 571 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: because McBride, I mean, without a zach Ertz, he needs 572 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: to show up. He is your tight end number one 573 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: over these last now two remaining games, but going back 574 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: to Christmas, not against the Buccaneers, he needed to be 575 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,719 Speaker 1: able to show something. Again, don't know exactly what the 576 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: game plan was going into the week, but something that 577 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: we were looking out and we didn't see it as 578 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: far as McBride is concerned. And he did have a 579 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: nice block on the James Connor twenty two yard touchdown 580 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: run and we're gonna film We're gonna document that in 581 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: film room this week on Clip Kingsbury's TV show Game Plan. 582 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: So it's interesting he was on the big red rage 583 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: Trey McBride and ye did sort of you know, behind 584 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: the scenes sort of Okay, I just fingered the win. 585 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: What's the vibe with Trey McBride, and it was unanimous. 586 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: And I was a little bit surprised that the feedback 587 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: was as resoundingly positive as it is right now as 588 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: to his future, because I thought maybe there was a 589 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: little bit of uncertainty based on how he's played this year. 590 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: But a couple of coaches look me in the eyes 591 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: of Paul Wins, the last rookie that came in and 592 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: just crushed it, And I sat there and I went, 593 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: M that's a great question. You're right. And so they said, look, 594 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: he's gonna be really good. Just give him, you know, 595 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: through this offseason they put on a little more strength 596 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: and you know, get it. And and I think, I 597 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: think this is my own I'm surmising now. I'm thinking, 598 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: you know what, based on the fact that he comes 599 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: from a small school and a small town, not unlike 600 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: a Zaven Collins, and didn't go to exactly a football power. 601 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: Zaban went to Tulsa, Trey mcbrin went to a Colorado 602 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: State and playing in those conferences those schools play in, 603 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: I think there's a little more of a learning curve 604 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: and getting acclimated just the intensity and ferocity of the NFL, 605 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: the physicality of the NFL. I think that does take 606 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: almost a full season for those guys to get into it. 607 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: And then okay, I think next year will be key. 608 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: That's when you'll be able to ascertain and tell, Okay, 609 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: is this guy going to be an NFL difference maker 610 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: or not? What it takes to be a professional? You're here? 611 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: How do you stay here? How do you prepare during 612 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: the course of the week to become active and then 613 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: productive on Sundays? That takes a little while for some players, 614 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: maybe into year two or year three. Last point on 615 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: this Christmas Night loss to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, haven't 616 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: focused too much on the defense. Yeah, I thought they 617 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: played for three plus quarters. Darnear perfect against Tom Brady. 618 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: But we talk about it again, that defense needed one 619 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: more stop. Couldn't do it. When we talk about stops, 620 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: JJ Watt and what he is doing true to his word, 621 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: whether it's to us in the media, to his teammates 622 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: in which the cameras catch him on hard knocks, as 623 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: far as make sure you leave no stone unturned, bring 624 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: it each and every day, regardless of what you have 625 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: to play for, because you don't have anything to play for. 626 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: As far as the playoffs. You do have something to 627 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: play for individually, and JJ Watt is playing for a 628 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: contract next season, whether it's here or somewhere else. But 629 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: what a season high. Seventy seven snaps Paul the most 630 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: since twenty eighteen. Man, they were supposed to be limiting 631 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: his snaps this season, that's all out the window. But 632 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: he continues to live in the opponent's backfield well. And 633 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: when Triston Hill went out of the game on the cart, 634 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: obviously there was a greater need along that defensive front. 635 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: But there was a point in the second half or 636 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: NBC put together a montage of his best plays, and 637 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: there were at least three plays in that first half 638 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: where he stopped the ball carrier for no gain or 639 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: a tackle for loss. I mean, he was dominant along 640 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: that defensive front in the line of scrimmage. And they 641 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: put to that montage, You're like, man, he still looks 642 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: ultra quick. He is getting off the line and beating 643 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: offensive lineman to the gap, and that is so critical 644 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: if that offensive lineman doesn't beat you to the spot 645 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,959 Speaker 1: coming off the ball, and the old lineman is supposed 646 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: to have the advantage, obviously knowing the snap count, but 647 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: jj Watt at thirty three years of age. Just the quickness. 648 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: Forget the production. We can all see them. We can 649 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: see in the box scoring, you can see when he 650 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: get us into the backfield. But I was just to me, 651 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, this is a big infomercial or jj 652 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: Watt a national TV on NBC. There's thirty one other 653 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: teams looking at that and nodding their head saying, Okay, 654 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: maybe we need to take a closer look at some 655 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: of his game film. And I would not be shocked 656 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: if there isn't fierce competition for his services this offseason. Honestly, 657 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: I hope the Cardinals retain him. I really do, not 658 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: just for what he does in the trenches, but what 659 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: he does in that locker room, and anyone who wasn't 660 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: aware is now seen in hearing it for themselves on 661 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: hard Knocks, and it's great stuff. I mean, in some ways, 662 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: he's a better motivator and public speaker in that locker 663 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: room than a lot of the coaches, and so I 664 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: think he's invaluable for that reason. But then combined with 665 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: his play and to your point, what he's doing actually 666 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: on the field and between the white lines, Yeah, he's 667 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: gonna command a pretty hefty two year contract at least 668 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: I think in the offseason. I really do. Even at 669 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: thirty three, six tackles, two tackles for lost, two quarterback hits, 670 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: so he had half the team's tackles for lost, half 671 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: the team's quarterback hits. And you're right what he has 672 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: done for Zach Allen, Cameron Thomas, the rest of the 673 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: defensive line, Lecky Fowe two, Richard Lawrence that you can't 674 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: put a price tag on it yet. If you're the 675 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: Cardinals looking at next season and JJ Watt, what do 676 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: you have left to do in your career? Let's get 677 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 1: into the postseason, make it to the super Bowl, win 678 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl to the Cardinals and JJ wass pass? 679 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,760 Speaker 1: Do they mirror one another looking ahead to next season? 680 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,399 Speaker 1: You're right? I mean, if he's looking for a slam dunk, 681 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 1: surefire playoff team based on where he is in his career, 682 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: I could see that. I could also see him looking 683 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: for a big media market. He's so good in front 684 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: of the camera, and not as if he hasn't already 685 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: he hasn't already set himself up for a post playing 686 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: career media type broadcast gig. If he wants. He's obviously, 687 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 1: you know, set up for generations and his family in 688 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: terms of his earnings. But if he's looking to go 689 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: that route and you see him go to, Oh, I 690 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 1: don't know, a Chargers or Rams in the LA market, 691 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: or a Giant's or Jets in the New York market. 692 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: I would not be surprised whatsoever for a JJ Watt 693 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: if he ended up one of those big media markets 694 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,760 Speaker 1: and just continue to burnish his brand going forward. Um, 695 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: not the Rams. Paul Cardinals play the Rams twice each season, 696 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: So I don't need to see ninety nine. I'm with you, 697 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: or what do you do if it? Did? You have 698 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: nine part one? The nine part two? I mean, it's 699 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 1: bad enough. You've gotta deal with Aaron Donald. Yeah, yeah, no, 700 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,479 Speaker 1: And you know what, JJ Watt has been the better 701 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 1: ninety nine this year in the NFL and a lot 702 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: of it. They went into those two games against the Rams, 703 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: and I think he was sick and tired of hearing 704 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,280 Speaker 1: about ninety nine and it wasn't him, And so yeah, 705 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: it's been a pleasure to watch him play this year, 706 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 1: it really has. And he's one of those guys that 707 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: if he's not around next year. Man, that's gonna be tough, 708 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: is gonna leave a big void, not not just on 709 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: the defensive front, but in that locker room. And I 710 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: think that's a good place to leave it. Here on 711 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: Cardinals cover two, talking about the positive from Christmas Nights, 712 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 1: and of course, obviously now it's all about getting Paul 713 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: Kalvici's voice ready for this upcoming week. Two games left 714 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: to go, Paul, rest up, recharge, and don't forget. Yeah, 715 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 1: it's in Atlanta when you're celebrating the New Year. I know. 716 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 1: Here's you talk about taking it game by game, week 717 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: by week, day by day. We actually my wife actually 718 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 1: three weeks ago asking me about Okay, some of our 719 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: friends there's a big huh New Year's Eve party. Okay, yes, 720 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,439 Speaker 1: sounds great, let's go. We'll commit. It was three days ago. 721 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 1: It was right before Christmas, right literalized twit a minute, 722 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 1: we're on the road for New Year's Eve. Yeah, I was. 723 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: I was in the doghouse at that moment with the wife. 724 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 1: I got to do a better job of looking ahead 725 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 1: grey and not taking it game by game, week by week. Well, 726 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 1: if Paul is out of the doghouse, maybe he'll rejoin 727 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: us later in the week to talk about said trip 728 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: to the Atlanta Falcons. Or maybe Paul will just go 729 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: to Atlanta and never come back. It could be that 730 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: bad and the Paul House will probably not. Yeah, no, 731 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: we'll see. Look, I'll say this much, um, I'm very 732 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: curious with the Atlanta what it's what it's like there 733 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,879 Speaker 1: in terms of the crowd and the reaction. You got 734 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: a team that is actually in playoff contention right now, 735 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: so we'll see. But a few other times we've gone 736 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: to Atlanta and you've wondered about the crowd noise and 737 00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: where it's being enhanced and amplified. Curious it'll be like 738 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,879 Speaker 1: in that brain whose stadium this time around? Maybe someone 739 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 1: who worked with the Vikings is now working with the Falcons. 740 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: Maybe that's a possibility. On that note, we'll put a 741 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two presented by Hunday, 742 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks 743 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 1: to our executive producer, Jim Amandro Theball Calvci. I'm Craig 744 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: Rayel Loup. We'll talk to you next time here on 745 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two.