WEBVTT - Jigga-Baloo: Motherf*ckin Mini Episode 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:10.320 Motherfucking mini episode, mini episode, motherfucking mini episode. 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:17.119 And he knows I'm unfaithful, and I don't remember the 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:18.959 words of the lyrics, but you know what the fuck 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:22.480 I'm trying to do. What up little Mama said, gentiles 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:23.680 are like there? 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:24.240 It is. 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:27.960 Welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told. 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:31.040 Me the podcast. It dives deep into the pockets of 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:33.199 black conspiracy theories. 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:36.640 And we finally worked to approve the motherfucking theories that 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:41.560 you motherfuckers have at home. It's a motherfucking mini episode. 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:45.680 Yes, sir, and let's get right back into it. We're 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:49.000 back Baby Blue round two. If you listened to the 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:53.159 mini last year, you heard last year, Let excuse me, 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:57.280 excuse me. I'm fired up. I'm fucking fired up right now. 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:00.640 I'm fired up right now. You heard about my girlfriend's 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:06.200 controversial take on Blue. I expanded on it a little bit. Basically, 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:09.000 the take was my girl. We were talking about Disney 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:13.679 movies and I said that the character Blue of Jungle 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:16.959 Book Fame really struck a chord with me as a child, 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:20.840 really a big part in my development as a man. 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:26.679 And she said that's troubling because Blue kind of was 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:30.759 like a lot of black man stereotypes. And I said, bitch, 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:34.959 you get out of my mind. Oh Mitchell, girl, crazy 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:37.520 tumtoring about. 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:42.360 No. 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:45.319 We had an argument. I talked about it briefly last 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:48.280 week on the episode I did myself that was, you know, 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:49.960 just kind of if you listen to it's just sort 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:53.240 of me spiraling out emotionally for ten to fifteen minutes. 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:55.400 But now we have like Ston back to hear what 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:59.320 he thinks about Blue, arguably what I would say, one 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:02.080 of the greatest characters in animated history. 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:06.120 I don't disagree that he isn't a great character. I 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:09.000 think he's I hate that. No, I'm saying, I think 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:14.960 you're so hurt you can't even hear. You're like you're 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:19.280 like blinded, ear blinded by like the rage filling up 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:20.000 inside of you. 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:23.400 Oh, don't get it twisted. It's also visually blinded I 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:24.600 see anything. 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:29.560 This is the first I'm hearing about this Blue controversy. 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:32.400 I I was not aware that this was the thing 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:35.040 you and your girl were having such intense fights about. 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:37.480 And I will say that I'm a big fan of Blue, 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:43.360 but I don't fully disagree with her about this assessment 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:47.840 of where Blue comes from fun guy, really big fan 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:52.880 Bare Necessities goes hard. My daughter loves that song. That said, 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:57.600 I definitely think that the White writers, which I'm absolutely 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:02.880 certain they were of nineteen sixty seven, when concocting Blue, 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:07.600 sat back and said, how can we write a jigaboo 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:11.400 without calling him a jigaboo? I know, we'll make it rhyme, 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:13.239 but lou that. 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:24.120 Is pure conjecture, for you're putting things on. He wasn't 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:27.480 even if it was the coon was King Louie. 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:30.919 Oh I And okay, first of all, I'm a big 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:38.640 fan of King Louis too, about the deep Deep I 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:42.720 swing as boo the one, Yeah, No, I love that. 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:45.400 I love King Louis. And I would say that that 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:49.400 certainly King Louie's intentions were rooted in a type of cooning. 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:52.680 He wanted to be like the man, he wanted to 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:55.600 walk just like the other man. He was tired of 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:59.560 monkey and around. All that that said, I don't think 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:02.200 that when I say that it's based off of stereotypes, 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:04.200 that I presume that cooning is a part of the 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:06.480 stereotypes that are connected to Blue. 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:09.400 I think that. I mean, first of all, I would 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:13.800 be remiss if I did not mention really great King 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:15.680 Lily impression. Oh thank you? 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:19.599 Yeah, no, really, I know the words to that song too. 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:20.720 I'll say this. 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:27.640 I think that blue stereotypes feel less about a want 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:31.960 for whiteness as much as sort of what the original 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:35.960 expectations of the black Man were, which is lazy, sort 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:38.640 of good for nothing, like a lot of life. 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:41.640 I don't think that he was lazy, a good for nothing. 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:45.159 He was just a minimalist. He took Mowgli under his wing. 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:47.520 He had to do that. He was the king of 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:50.800 the jungle up there. He didn't have to take in 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:53.320 this fucking gangly as kid. He could have kept you 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:55.640 and eating those prickly pairs and shit like that. He 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:57.640 was a good man who had a kind heart, who 0:04:57.680 --> 0:05:00.479 opened his world to this child and tried to show 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:03.120 him the ways of the jungle. And then now we're 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:05.960 now he's lazy. Why because he likes to scratch up 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:08.120 against the tree. You ever rupt your back on a 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:12.200 brick wall, it feels good. Guess what? Guess what? The 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:17.159 call me jiggaboo boy. Then because that man, that ship, 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:21.120 that ship was fundamental to me. It was fundamental to 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:26.120 me between that entailspind pillars of like who I decided 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:26.880 to be as a man. 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:36.280 I think Jiggaboo Bory that we're right. I think we're 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:40.280 We're not not saying the same thing. I do think 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:43.400 that like he can be this formative person for you. 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:47.159 But I'm saying that the intention that these writers went 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:51.680 in with was very much degradation to or at least 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:55.480 mockery of the black Man. I think that he's objectively 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:59.359 a lazy character. That's what he That's that's sort of 0:05:59.400 --> 0:05:59.960 his point. 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:03.200 Lazy to take in someone who's not your candon cared 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:05.280 for them because I'm sorry, is that lazy to care 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:05.839 for him? 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:07.960 He lost him immediately. 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:10.920 Oh, because he doesn't know how to care for a child. 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:17.320 He's it's a different skill set. He's already backwards to 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:18.760 get this little fucking. 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:22.440 Man, have to take him fucking but guard. 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:27.040 Here's what I do know. You have watched The Jungle 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:30.080 Book more recently than I. I will own up to 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:34.280 that because I didn't remember that, dude. But let's let 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:36.800 me walk you through the story of the Jungle re 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:42.960 walk me through that's that's probably important. Wolves. He's raised 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:43.680 by wolves. 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:48.640 He lives as a yeah, and there's a bunch of them. 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:51.559 Yeah, and and they out of fear. 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:55.320 Do you think the wolves were white people? I don't know. 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:58.520 Uh that that's the sense I get is that they 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:01.560 are sort of like, uh, they're white people, but with 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:07.640 limited resources, and that's yeah, they're like poor. Yeah, he's 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:11.440 being raised by these rednecks who basically are like, look, 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:13.480 we did the best we could with you, but at 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:17.560 the threat of this tiger coming, we we gotta we 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:21.160 can't keep doing this. And then Bagheera, who for some 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:24.760 reason is just by the way that they would raise 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:26.760 them and then abandon them, like. 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:30.400 You are our son until you couldn't be our son anymore. Yeah, 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:33.040 you're one thing missing, and all of a sudden. 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:36.600 You're making it real hot for the wolves we actually 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:39.560 care about. So, uh, you gotta go, big boy. 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:42.960 You were you were always different than us. Yeah. 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:45.160 I don't know if you noticed, but you walk on 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:48.080 two feet and we walk on floors. So he's out. 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:53.400 But they they basically hand Mowgli off to Bagheera, who 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:58.040 volunteers to sort of guide him to where he knows 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:01.360 the people live. He he's gonna take him back to 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:03.200 man's society. 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:04.280 So Bagheera was gonna take him home. 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:08.240 Bagheera's job in the Jungle Book is to guide him 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:11.440 back to the home he didn't know he belonged to, 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.840 and in that process, him and Mowgli have a lot 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:20.080 of infighting because Bagheera is uptight and expects Mowgli to 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:22.560 just follow the rules, and Mowgli's a little kid who's 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:26.480 running around half naked doing wild shit, and in doing 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:31.440 that he bumps into Blue, and Blue's instinctive is to 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:34.600 be like, fuck, Bagheera, I'm about to show you how 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:38.600 real niggas live, and it's by floating in the water 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:43.439 and eating prickly pairs and shit. That's this whole thing 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:46.360 is like, we ain't got to listen to boring ass Bagheera. 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:46.880 Look at me. 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:50.240 I don't shower, I don't shave. 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:51.600 Don't I just kick it. 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:57.120 Don't come from being dirty, Bro, You're using the tools 0:08:57.120 --> 0:09:03.240 of the oppressor. And I don't like this, bro, Bro, 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:07.960 for real, for real, you didn't say anything about how 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:10.720 the wolves clean themselves. They lick each other to clean. 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:13.280 Look now you're coming from my man, I don't shower, 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:17.560 that's you. You're coming in with some bias. 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:21.160 You're right that that part maybe was a little biased, 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:25.280 and I'll take I'll walk that back. You objected, sustained, 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:28.960 You're correct. He there's no evidence of how he cleans 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:32.000 himself in it. And in fact, of all the animals, 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:35.160 he's probably in the water the most of the animals 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:36.640 throughout this story. 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:40.880 Okay, And what what is the big issue with blues lifestyle. 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:45.440 It's not so much to the lifestyle. Although he is lazy, 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:48.240 he mostly just spends the and he brags about it. 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:50.800 He spends the whole day singing and eating and not 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:53.480 really dealing with any of life, the cares of the world. 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:56.800 That's essentially what the Bare Necessities is about. You need 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:59.760 just the things that make you happy and ignore the 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:02.840 thing that make you stressed. And he says that directly 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:07.480 to Mogli, and Mogli's like, hell yeah. And then immediately, I. 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:11.080 Want to be very clear, immediately upon singing this song 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:15.000 with Blue, he is kidnapped by a group of wild 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:19.240 apes monkeys, although led by a single ape king Louis, 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:23.600 who then kidnap him and take him back to this castle, 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:27.240 this throne, where they demand that he teach them to 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:30.680 make fire. He's also kidnapped by a snake who wants 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:34.600 to eat him. Periodically throughout the story, constantly he is 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:40.199 sort of finding himself in danger and Blue from other minorities, 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:45.080 and Blue, who adopted him, who demanded that he take 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:49.720 on this responsibility, does very little to actually prevent any 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:53.160 of the danger that comes to him and moreover, to 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:56.400 help him out of the danger that he's in. Players 0:10:56.440 --> 0:11:02.520 fuck up, even with King Louis, he was kidnapped. Let's 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:05.640 review this because when he's kidnapped by King Louis, King 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:08.200 Louis demands that he teaches that Mowgli teach him how 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:10.760 to make man's fire. That's what he wants is to 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:14.520 be able to like basically become like a to make 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:17.640 his way into man's society by learning to make fire. 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:21.400 But even in that process, they recognize that he's been kidnapped. 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:25.040 They sneak into this castle to save Mowgli, and the 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:28.600 reason they struggle to say Mowgli is because Blue hears 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:33.720 a jazz song so hot that he turns himself into 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:37.400 a monkey. He puts on monkey like a coconut. He 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:41.959 puts two coconuts over his lip and a skirt he 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:46.040 wears a dress. My man, he wears a fi dress 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:49.559 so that he could look like an ape and dance 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:54.480 to this song alongside King Louie. This is not an 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:56.720 upstanding gentleman. This is a knigga. 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:00.640 I'm gonna be honest. I gotta text my girlfriend, you 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:06.400 are an apology man. Honestly, at the end of the day, 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:08.120 when I hear all that, it just makes me hurt 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:10.760 that that's who I was really drawn to in that 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.800 whole movie. This is this what you wanted to be? 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:16.920 It was if I had to pick Wan. Yeah, I 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:19.480 will say, and this was a lot of my argument 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:25.040 towards her. I'm sorry. Is that A lot of the 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:28.040 blue that I am referencing is the ballue from the 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:29.760 hit series Talesman. 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:31.760 Which I think is a very different ballue. I think 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:33.120 that's very different. 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:38.000 He's a business owner. He takes care of his nephew 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:42.160 and sister even though he doesn't have to. He puts 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:47.120 his family on Louis works for him fighting pirates. Yeah, 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:51.319 he's a very valiant man. I do think that that 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:55.800 is the blue that kind of I identify with the most, 0:12:56.440 --> 0:13:01.199 and that I was lashing out in retaliation to thinking 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:04.040 that she was coming for that Blue, the Blue in 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:08.360 the Jungle Book. Yeah, man, it's that's that's that's that's 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:12.560 a tough pill to swallow. I forgot about don't do 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:18.240 that because because the tals been Blue still exists. Yeah, 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:22.160 but I think that we with more screen time than 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:24.560 the I'm gonna watch tales I have Disney. I'm watching 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:25.160 it right after this. 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:28.120 I'll say this, I think that's more like a multiverse 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:33.800 theory than it is the same character. I think that that's. Yeah, 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:36.120 this is a world where like. 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:37.400 A nephew like the Blue family. 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:41.000 Yeah, maybe it's generations down the line where it's like, oh, 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:43.160 you mean the dude I was named after. Yeah, well 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:45.040 I'm a little different than him, you know what I mean, 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:48.840 Like I'm a I'm a different guide than whoever that was. 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:52.880 Man, this is difficult, but you know, life's about growth, 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:55.760 you know, sometimes your own I think, you know, you know, 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:59.000 in retro it doesn't take from the fact that I did. 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:02.640 Even from Jungle Book, that has always been my favorite character. 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:08.200 He's a fun character. He's a really cool guy. Fun guy. 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:17.280 We're calling upon you because we have we have new merch. 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:21.080 We have very exciting merch that we are now selling 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:24.280 and it's it's fucking great. We love it so much. 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:28.120 Just sleek, it's sexy. Come on, you want to tell 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:30.920 them what we have? 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Kan had a point. 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:17.640 You, Khan had a couple of points. 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:23.480 I think I said that on the other episode that 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:27.640 that was what you were gonna like. Bro, listen, I 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:29.480 go talk to somebody. 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:32.520 I'm right about this. Let me remind you what seered 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:36.720 con story is sheer con you do? Sheer Kan was 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:41.120 a tiger who had been severely hurt injured by the 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:44.920 attack of a man, a hunter had had hurt him, 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:48.600 and then he recognized the scar on his face and 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:50.800 the fire and he had been burned in the In 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:53.080 the original, I think he had been burned by fire, 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:57.000 and in the in the new one he had that 0:15:57.200 --> 0:16:01.440 scar from having been attacked by us and shit. But 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:04.960 the point is is that shar Khan's main motivation was 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:08.280 being like, our jungle has balance. It has balance that 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:12.440 we all need to recognize and respect. And this little motherfucker, 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:16.880 this little weird human being who don't belong here, is 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:20.120 fucking up the balance. He's making it so that our 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:22.960 shit ain't working the way it's supposed to. He's gonna 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:25.040 make it so that more human beings come back and 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:28.320 threaten all of our lives. We all owe it to 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:31.200 each other to kill this little motherfucker so that we 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:33.960 can get back to being jungle animals the way we're 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:37.880 supposed to be. And while I recognize that that violence 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:41.760 is not ideal, I do also recognize that that's just 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:46.600 a militant man doing what needed to be done, rather 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:50.080 than sitting back and hoping that the man above us 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:54.360 does the right thing simply because it's supposed to be done. 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:58.960 Damn, this is I gotta go back and watch this movie, bro. 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:04.720 And also what's going on? What is this movie really about? 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:08.760 That's a hard question. I don't think that an. 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:12.040 Animal farm animal farm type of movie, you know what 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:14.760 I mean? I never thought about it on these levels, 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:18.600 But now that we're speaking about it, it's not. It 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:21.479 wasn't written like allegory, right, It's just written as a 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:22.439 book about the jungle. 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:25.000 I don't know, because I do think there was an 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:29.680 original jungle book, right, Like the film is based off 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:32.679 of an actual like story, and I don't know if 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:35.840 that story was meant to be allegorical or if it 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:38.560 was just like, no, what if a little brown boy 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:40.960 lived in a jungle and were raised by wolves? And 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:43.320 because some of it is stupid, right, there are no 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:47.040 bears and wolves in a jungle with tigers and snakes 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:47.480 and shit. 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:51.679 That's not how that was. Okay. So it was written 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:54.280 by Richard Kipling. 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:58.600 Who I'm sure if we looked up any information about him, 0:17:58.640 --> 0:17:59.640 he'd be a good guy. 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:06.720 Well, he wrote White Man's Burden. Okay, that's what is 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:15.200 that about? Niggas? What is the wing about? I don't know. 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:21.000 I mean, I'm mean about The Jungle Book. I read 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:24.639 about The White Man's Right. So it's in India, so 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:29.480 it's already about colonialism somewhat, right, mm hmm. So a 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:32.840 major theme of the book is abandonment followed by fostering, 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:40.439 as in the Life of Moguli, echoing Kipling's own childhood. Okay, okay, yeah. 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:44.919 The The White Man's Burden is a poem about the 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:49.359 Philippine American War eighteen ninety nine and nineteen oh two 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:53.080 that exhorts the United States to assume colonial control of 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:56.240 the Filipino people and their country. And The White Man's 0:18:56.240 --> 0:19:01.719 Burden Kipling encouraged the American annexation and colonization of the 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:06.960 Philippine Islands, a Pacific Ocean archipelago conquered in the Three 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:11.680 Month Spanish American War. And basically he's They describe him 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:15.640 as an imperialist poet. Yeah, this is a man. 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:22.320 I didn't know that was the type of poet. Imperialists 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:25.000 like poetry. I mean it guess back then everybody liked it. 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:29.240 Yeah, this is about There's literally a picture on the 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:32.560 Wikipedia of a white man holding up some sort of 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:36.159 jungle black and I have no other way of describing that. Character, 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:39.359 I'm gonna if I can, I'm gonna send it to 0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:44.120 you guys. But it's literally him holding up this this 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:48.240 jungle black and it's saying that it's I want to 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:51.440 make sure I get this quote right. It's saying civilizing 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:57.960 the unwilling savage is the description of the the what's 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:00.560 happening in this picture. So no, I don't think that 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:03.480 this was a story written by a good man who 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:06.439 had good intentions for black people, who are brown people 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:08.720 in general at all. 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:10.880 I mean, here's this. A major theme in the book 0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:13.840 is abandonment followed by fostering, as in the Life of Moguli, 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:16.920 echoing Kipling's old childhood. The theme has echoed in The 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:20.719 triumphlah blah blah blah blah. Another important theme is of 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:24.280 law and freedom. The stories are not about animal behavior, 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:28.000 still less about the Darwinian struggle for survival, but about 0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:33.120 human archetypes and animal forms. They teach respect for authority, obedience, 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:36.439 and knowing one's place in society with the law of 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:39.439 the jungle, but the stories also illustrate the freedom to 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:41.720 move between different worlds, such as when Mogli moves between 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:44.159 the jungle of the village Critics have also noted the 0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:48.119 essential wildness and lawless energies, and the stories reflecting the 0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:51.560 irresponsible side of human nature. Yeah. 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:54.600 I don't think that he wrote Blue with good intentions, 0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:55.560 my man. 0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:58.600 God damn it can't a little boy just like a bear. 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:00.200 He was mostly. 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:06.600 I don't think they. Yeah, he's not a good guy. 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:08.880 I don't think that he was writing for that way 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:11.960 to lift him up. I think he was like, yeah, 0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:14.680 you know, some niggas are fun, but you can't trust him, 0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:17.200 and you certainly don't want your kids raised by them. 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:20.000 Well, in the same way that we took the scraps 0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:23.640 and made soul food, I took Blue and built a 0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:25.639 fairly responsible life around him. 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:28.240 Yeah, you built a father figure out of h out 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:30.159 of the chitlings of cartoon world. 0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:35.080 You gotta relax. That's maybe that Okay, that is the 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:41.880 neatest thing anyone's ever said to me. That's probably that's 0:21:42.000 --> 0:21:44.600 that's that's way worse than saying you were born at home. 0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:50.680 Yeah, this bear could be my dad. 0:21:51.680 --> 0:21:52.520 Look at this baby. 0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:08.320 I got pretty damp. Clay Richard Kipley don't want me, man, 0:22:13.800 --> 0:22:15.159 but was like, I gotta go. 0:22:15.320 --> 0:22:21.680 I'm drum man. I knew where it was. I'm drunk, 0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:25.480 I been eating. 0:22:30.960 --> 0:22:42.080 I didn't want this, it just happened. I think, man, 0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:45.760 you felt I love the pair of a bear and 0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:49.280 that's a lot to wrestle with. Man, But I I 0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:52.800 encourage everyone out there to really review whether or not 0:22:52.840 --> 0:22:55.600 sheer Khan is the bad guy and said, movie, I 0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:58.880 get it, we're rooting for a tiger to not kill 0:22:58.960 --> 0:23:01.679 a human being. But if you can get past that 0:23:01.800 --> 0:23:04.760 part of it, that he's a murderer and a child 0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:08.199 murderer at that, you'll find a pretty good guy on 0:23:08.240 --> 0:23:09.120 the other side of it. 0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:17.280 That's so funny. Wow, this was This was dark and complicated. Also, 0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:21.240 he grew up in India. Yeah, but not the India 0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:23.679 that it was supposed to be. No, no, no, I 0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:26.359 mean he's like he was like on the on the 0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:28.520 forefront of colonialism. Yeah. 0:23:28.640 --> 0:23:31.840 I think this was very much a story of the 0:23:31.880 --> 0:23:35.920 colonized and being like, look at them living amongst the animals. 0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:38.840 I bet these animals could teach them a thing or 0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:44.320 two about what it means to be a person. Man, 0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:49.240 God damn well, I said that motherfucker write a song. 0:23:49.359 --> 0:23:56.240 Huh? Come on? So catchy. 0:23:57.600 --> 0:24:00.320 Reached the top end and had to stop. And that's 0:24:00.359 --> 0:24:05.560 what's bothering me. I want to be a man, man 0:24:05.720 --> 0:24:13.280 cub and stroll right into town and think just like 0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:17.480 the other men. I'm tied of monking around. Oh oh 0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:22.439 oh man. Yeah no, thank got Goofy's still there for me. 0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:23.679 Yeah, no, Goofy. 0:24:23.920 --> 0:24:27.959 There's no bad history with Goofy. Don't look it up, 0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:30.200 but there's no bad history with Goofy. 0:24:30.440 --> 0:24:32.320 A lot of my problem is we were talking about 0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:34.720 this because obviously this conversation went on for days. I 0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:37.080