1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, Happy Saturday. I hope you have your breakfast 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: cereal and your Saturday morning cartoons all taken care of. 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: It is in Select time, June, and we're talking about 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: how lighthouses work. This is a really cool podcast. I 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: remember really enjoying this one because I had done some 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: research on lighthouses for a movie script I was writing, 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: so this one was really pretty key for that. So 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: here we go with how lighthouses work. Welcome to Stuff 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: you should know, a production of I Heart Radio. Hey, 10 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: w Chuck Bryant, and Jerry over there, and this is 12 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: the lighthouse episode, Take one. Uh can I just go 13 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: ahead and say that I love lighthouses. You love love 14 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: already before like you fell in love with them. I'm 15 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: researching this both, like if I'm I grew up going 16 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: to Honey Island, South Carolina. Not every year, but we 17 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: went quite a few times near Buford and they have 18 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 1: a lighthouse and it was one of my favorite things 19 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: to do as a kid, was climbing the lighthouse. And 20 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: I would I if I am near a lighthouse, now ever, 21 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: I will go climate the outside. I will seek it 22 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: out and then shim me up the outside like spider Man. Um. No, 23 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: I will seek it out and go look at it 24 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: and then climb it. And um this article just made 25 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: me love it even more. I have a precious memories 26 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: lighthouse too. Let's hear marble Head Lighthouse near Kataba Island, 27 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: which is where what state by Sandusky in Ohio on 28 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: Lake Erie. And it was the same thing. When I 29 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: was a kid. We used to go vacation on Kataba Island, 30 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: and um, we would go to that lighthouse every once 31 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: a while. I don't remember ever going inside, though it 32 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: might not have been open, because there's no reason why 33 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: you would go to a light house more than once 34 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: and not go inside climb it up. I don't remember 35 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: every going in, but or maybe you're just like, yeah, 36 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: it looks nice from down here. Yeah, I would have 37 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: climbed it. I was a climber. Yeah, me too. Um. 38 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: But I think the other thing that factors in for 39 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: me is I found I really love antiquated systems that 40 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: could still be viable. Yeah, like post apocalypse, you could 41 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: fire up lighthouses again, you know fire yeah, and it 42 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: would work. Yeah, I would, And I think that's a 43 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 1: weird thing with me that I love. I love stuff 44 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 1: that's still around that you could use if if need be. 45 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: You know, I've never really looked at my environment that way, 46 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: like to see what it was going to be standing 47 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 1: after an apocalypse. Maybe I should. Well I don't know 48 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: about standing, but let's just let's say there was some 49 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 1: weird domino effect type thing like that movie where electricity 50 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: and internet and everything went out right and people turned 51 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: on each other. You could still lit a lighthouse and 52 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: bos could find their safe harbor. What movie are you 53 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: talking about? The Domino effect? Oh? Really, there's a movie 54 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: like that called that. Yeah, I didn't know that. I 55 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: think it was called with Elizabeth Shoo and agent Agent 56 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: Cooper from Twin Peaks Kyle what's his face? McLaughlin and 57 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: he is so great is the mare um Portlandia? Yeah, 58 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: he is good. I love that guy. I think it's 59 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: called the domino effect. If not, that was the you know, 60 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: essentially what happened There was a domino effect like a 61 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: blackout right, Yeah, that just like and it created a 62 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: domino effect that things kind of spun out of control. 63 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: You're talking about Fury Road. Oh right, sorry, so, uh 64 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: chuckout love lighthouses too, but I knew virtually nothing about 65 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: him until researching this. And Um, if you think about them, though, 66 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: it's like you were saying, after the apocalypse, you'll still 67 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: still be standing. You just need to replace the electricity 68 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: with the fire, and then you'd have basically what lighthouses 69 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: have always been, which is some sort of highly visible signal. 70 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: For most of the time, it was a fire either 71 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: a wood fire, coal fire, tar fire, um, that you 72 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: could see that was meant to signal to ships that 73 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: hey man, there's some treacherous waters around here. It's one 74 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: of the main things that they did. And as the 75 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: light got better and better, one of the roles that um, 76 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: lighthouses played was not just to say careful in this area. 77 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: We went to the trouble building a lighthouse here because 78 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: it's so treacherous, but also check out these rocks. See 79 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: this with this light, there's some rocks there. Yeah, like 80 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: literally lighting up a harbor. Yeah. Um, well, because there 81 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: was no light otherwise. Right. And then, um, the other 82 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: role that they play is in the daytime, right, because 83 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: lighthouses I don't think that they actually keep them on 84 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: twenty four hours a day, highly efficient on a cloudy day. 85 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: If it's foggy, they'll turn it on and start sounding 86 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: the fog horns, which we'll talk about. But um, for 87 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: the most part in the daytime, it's off. But a 88 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: lighthouse still serves a purpose during the day because they 89 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: don't decorate them the way that they decorate them just 90 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: for looks. They do it so you can differentiate one 91 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: lighthouse from another. Yeah, like this one looks like a 92 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: barber pole, so I know I'm near North Carolina's Cape 93 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: Hatteras exactly right. And there's like a whole book called 94 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: the light List where it has pictures of them, and 95 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: did you get your hands on that? I'm meant to 96 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: look it up, but I ran out of time. I'll 97 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: bet it's neat. I bet it's neat too. By the way, 98 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: that movie is called the Trigger Effect. I have heard 99 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: of that one. There was a movie called the Domino Effect, 100 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: but it's not the same one. What about the butterfly effects? 101 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: Remember that garbage that was the coop? Right? Yeah? Man? 102 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: Why does he haunt us? I don't know. He comes 103 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: up a lot. All right. Where were we were we 104 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: in the lighthouse? We were talking about the day mark. Yeah, yeah, 105 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: pretty neat. But there's also what's called the light signature, right, yes, 106 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: where that's um, that's we're going back to nighttime again. Yeah, 107 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: Sorryverson the sun's going up and down you turn the 108 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: lights off. It got weird. It is a little weird. 109 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: Yeah all right, Jerry, are you still here here? So? Um, 110 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: at night, the light has its own flashing signature, light signature, 111 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: and that's also in the Light book two. And there's 112 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: actually a number of different ways that a light can flash. Right, 113 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: who knew? I didn't know. You've got the fixed and 114 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: that is, of course, if you just have a light 115 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: on saying we're open, it shines continuously. Come on in. 116 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: It's the waffle house. You have the occulting light. I 117 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: love this one, the creepiest of all lights. Uh. It 118 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: has longer periods of light than dark. Um, and then 119 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: it flashes six six six uh. And a flashing light 120 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: has longer periods of dark than light. So a halting 121 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,559 Speaker 1: and flashing or just sort of inverse of one another. 122 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: There are two sides of the same coin. That's right. 123 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: I can't have light without the dark is the whole premise. 124 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: And then you have the isophase light that's equal light 125 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: and dark with its uh signature blips and then a 126 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: group flashing light super seventies. Yeah, it has a regular 127 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: repeating number of flashing lights the same pattern, right. Yeah. 128 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: And there's actually really famous one of those, um, the 129 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: Minnot's Ledge light in Boston. It was very famously known 130 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: as I think it still is that I Love You 131 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: light because it would flash one, then it would flash four, 132 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: and then we flashed three. So I l O V 133 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: E y O U. So it was like a very 134 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: romantic light. That's how people took it. I didn't make 135 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: that up. Oh see, I thought it was I hate 136 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:56,559 Speaker 1: cal it could. That's the secondary way that it's known. 137 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: The people of Boston are known for their soft side. 138 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: I know, so that's why I love you. Yeah. They're 139 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: prone to break into sobs and the public on the 140 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: street frequently just walking around thinking about the beauty of life. Um. 141 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: And then finally we have our alternating I'm sorry. We 142 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: have the Morse code um, which is what it sounds like. 143 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: It It mimics Morse code with stats and dashestats and dashes. 144 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: That's Morse code dots and dashes man um just spell 145 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: out you know, things like I love you. But that's 146 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: not when wheno's ledged us and it's not Morse code, 147 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: it's just it's just one four and three yea, And 148 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 1: people took it that way. I hate go. And when 149 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: its ledge, actually it's pretty awesome to begin with. It's 150 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: it's under ten ft of water at high tide and 151 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: they had to build it, I think in the nineteenth 152 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: century whenever the tide was out, so they only had 153 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: like X amount of hours and day during low tide. 154 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: When the ledge was exposed. It was interesting. It's still there. 155 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: It's tough cookie, but Josh, these are all sort of 156 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: modern modern is modern ish, but um, although old, they 157 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: can go back to uh what Homer's Iliad They mentioned 158 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: a lighthouse. Crazy, and I mean like we're talking basically 159 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: a huge bonfire on a cliff more exactly, you know, 160 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: not like but well, not like Minot's ledge or anything, 161 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 1: but then still qualifies as a lighthouse. It was the 162 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: premise behind it. Yeah exactly. I sounded weirdly defensive just 163 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: now about that. Still a lighthouse. Yeah. Uh, like you said, 164 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: you would have like either wood or coal burning on 165 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:47,479 Speaker 1: a long pole. Uh. And then finally in the eighteenth century, um, 166 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: they started using lanterns, which is a little more probably controllable. Yeah. 167 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: The problem was that they kept running into, um, was 168 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: that the oil or coal would smudge the lantern, the 169 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: glass around the lantern, and the so the glass top, 170 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: the whole thing where the light is that you can 171 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: walk around and that's the lantern of the lighthouse. And 172 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: if you're burning a coal fire in there, it's gonna 173 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: get sooty pretty quick. Yeah. One of the best one 174 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: of the main jobs of the lighthouse keepers to wash windows. Right. Um. 175 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: The problem is in between washings, which they did at 176 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: least once a day normally, um, the light would degrade 177 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: as the soot built up. Uh. So they figured out, oh, 178 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,599 Speaker 1: we need better better fuel than coal or tar. We 179 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: thought to use tar. Let's burn the dirtiest thing on 180 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: the planet. Inside. They were working with what they had 181 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: at the time. So they figured out, especially in New England, 182 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: that they could um use things like blubber and lard, 183 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: which they did from Wales, burns a lot cleaner. Uh. 184 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: And then they also figured out, hey, you know what 185 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 1: this flame is, Okay, but wouldn't it be great pre 186 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: electric city if we had something like electricity to beam 187 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: this thing out there for miles and miles and a 188 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: very smart physicist from France named Augustine Fresnell. I like Fresnell, 189 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: that's cool. For Nell said, all right, take my lens 190 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: and do with it what you will, and he indited 191 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: the Fornell lens. He did, I'm sorry, And it's like 192 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: what you would think it would be. It's a bunch 193 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: of prisms. Um through that through magic can cast a 194 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: beam like twenty something miles out to the ocean. Yeah, 195 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: it's amazing. They concentrate in the the gather light from 196 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: the top and the bottom and in the middle and 197 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: basically just shoot it all back to a single magnifying point. 198 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: It just goes miles. Yeah. Yeah, and that really that 199 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: changed everything and did a great job of handling the 200 00:11:55,920 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: load until electricity would come around. And that's when everyone like, 201 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: you know what, we don't need these silly flames anymore. 202 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: Let's just plug in the light. But you can still 203 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: use it Fornelle lens with the light and it's even brighter. 204 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: That's true. Like today's modern lighthouses use um or have 205 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: produced lights between ten thousand candelas and a million candelas. 206 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: What's a candela? Did you see this reference, Like, this 207 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: is the worst analogy I've ever run across. What did 208 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: it say? A candela is one two hundred the brightness 209 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: of a fifty watt light bulb? Oh okay, yeah, I 210 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: know exactly how much a candela is. I also saw 211 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: that it's roughly the brightness of a candle, which makes sense, 212 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: and that's a much better frame of reference. So the 213 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: brightness of a million candles burning in the same place, 214 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: that's how bright modern lighthouses are, not one two hundred. Bowl. 215 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: Let's take a break. Yeah, seriously, let's go find out 216 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 1: who wrote that and write a strongly worded letter. Well 217 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: that got ugly, so, uh, we're I feel like we're 218 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: still talking about the history of lighthouses, right yeah sure, um, 219 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: well what they were they were made of wood early on. Um. 220 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: But the problem with a wooden lighthouse and a massive 221 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: burning fire of tar is that they can burn down 222 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: and be washed out to see, or in rough weather 223 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: it can just be knocked plumb over by waves. And 224 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: but like I said, they used what they had at 225 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: the time, and over the years they got sturdier and 226 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: sturdier with steel and concrete and stuff like that. Well, 227 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: even over even before, over the years before, over the years, Yeah, 228 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: the Farah said Alexandria, one of the seven wonders of 229 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: the ancient world was this um lighthouse at the mouth 230 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: of the harbor to Alexandria, Egypt. And it was around 231 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure when it was around. I think 232 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: the which one the Pharos of Alexandria to seventy BC. 233 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: My friend, that thing was pretty sturdy. It took a 234 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: massive earthquake to bring it down. It was made of masonry. 235 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: It wasn't made of wood, you know. So it looks 236 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: like lighthouse construction got dumber as the years went on, 237 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: and then it got smart again, then got smart again. 238 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: It just dipped down in the wood era and then 239 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: came back up. Well, um, what you you normally have 240 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: is the lighthouse, which can be just a lighthouse, or 241 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: there might be uh a fog signal building. There might 242 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: be a boat house. You might have a little house 243 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: or apartment attached to it, and you might live there 244 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: with your family on in a very remote part of 245 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: the world, um, all by yourself for with a couple 246 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: of other dude. Yeah, and take turns and take shifts. 247 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: That's called a stag station. Yeah. And I think the 248 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: other thing that appeals to me about lighthouses is I 249 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: could have lived that life. Oh yeah, yeah, I can 250 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: have seen myself dropping out and you got a neck beard. Yeah. 251 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: All you need is like a cable nuts sweater and 252 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: living up there all by myself corn cob pipe really yeah, 253 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: grow my own crops and just sit up there and 254 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: be quiet, no one bugging me. It's like it appeals. 255 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: I did not know that. I did not picture you 256 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: as a lighthousekeeper. I could totally do it, or a 257 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: lightkeeper for short. Um and um. This is another thing 258 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: that I thought was remarkable in this article. You might 259 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: as well mention it is it. If there is a 260 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: lighthouse near you that nobody operates, it is possible that 261 00:15:53,800 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: you could own that lighthouse. Yeah. One door. The National 262 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: Historic Lighthouse Preservation Act of two thousand, it h got 263 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: a process together where the Coast Guard, which is what 264 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: runs the lighthouse biz now the lighthouse racket. Um. They 265 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: you can basically start a nonprofit or have a nonprofit 266 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: and at no cost, they will give you a decommissioned 267 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: lighthouse if you maintain it and keep it open to 268 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: the public. Yeah, for the most part, it's like preservation societies. 269 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: But if nobody wants it, they put it up for auction. Yeah, 270 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: and then you can do what you want to. You 271 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: can live out my dream. And I wouldn't have to 272 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: do the windows either. I could just live up there 273 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: and be a crusty old hermit. You know. We could 274 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: do a kickstarter to help you live out your dream. Chuck, Well, 275 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: let's do a few more years of stuff. You should 276 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: know first though, before you go. Okay, okay, um, all right, 277 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: so back to more modern times. Um, we're building them 278 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: of concrete and steel. At this point they're a little 279 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: more sturdy. You got your little keeper's house. You're not 280 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: getting paid much money. How much money, dude? Not much? So. 281 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: This article says that they earned about two dollars annually 282 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: in the late nineteenth century. I went on to the 283 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: gee Whiz West Egg inflation calculator for eight in eighteen nine. 284 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: That was five grand. Today. Your provisions are covered, though, right, Yeah, 285 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: at the very least your room is. I don't know 286 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: about board. I bet you they all the whale lard 287 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: you can eat. Yeah, Now imagine they take care of 288 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: stuff because you can't like leave and go shopping like 289 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: imagine you just have everything shipped to you and um again, ideal. 290 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: I love that. Don't have to go out, you don't 291 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: have to spend any money. It's like web van, yeah, 292 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: coming to you. You're banking that five five grand a 293 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: year essentially. Wow. Man, when you get into like lighthouse mode, 294 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: you're lower in the standards like jimmandess like You're like, man, 295 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: I'm making five grand. People are bringing me food. I 296 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 1: don't have to talk to anybody. Yeah, that's awesome. It's 297 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: like your fantasy. That's hilarious. Um. So that lens we 298 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: were talking about, we we didn't use that in the 299 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: United States for a while because the way I read 300 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: this is we kind of cheaped out when it was 301 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 1: being run um by this guy Stephen pleasant from for 302 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: thirty years eighteen fifty two, thirty two years. He ran 303 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 1: an efficient some might say chintzy program to where he 304 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: was like, you know, we don't need those fancy French lenses. 305 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: UM take these creddy versions. They probably wouldn't even a lens. 306 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: It is like a mirror reflector or something. Maybe if that, yeah, 307 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: maybe a piece of metal at somebody had to just 308 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: stand behind the light with the reflected, you're my mute assistant, 309 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: right quiet. But then finally the US government got involved 310 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:09,479 Speaker 1: in said you know what, we need to regulate this. 311 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: We the US they were involved. That's why. Yes, from 312 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: seventeen sixteen to seventeen eighty nine, that was not run 313 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: by the US government. No, it wasn't until Alexander Hamilton's 314 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: almost got in a shipwreck off the coast of I 315 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: think North Carolina, and he went back and said, hey, 316 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: I think we need some lighthouses. The federal government needs 317 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: to get involved. And so I think the nineteenth piece 318 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: of legislation the US Congress ever passed was to establish 319 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: the Lighthouse Board. Uh, the U S Lighthouse Establishment initially 320 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: is what it was called. And you know socialist program. 321 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: He said that the federal the federalities are going to 322 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: run this thing. Uh and then in charge now and 323 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 1: you know what things um went downhill? Yeah, improved, improved. 324 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: Everyone who's critical big government, right, Yeah, But there were 325 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: a lot of lighthouses at the time. By nineteen hundred 326 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: we had about a thousand lighthouses. Well, and by nineteen 327 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: hundred government had reformed its reputation, like seriously, the world 328 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: ground for the mid nineteenth century, the US governed. The 329 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: US lighthouse system was second rate at best. They just 330 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: had a terrible reputation. And I guess it sounds like 331 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 1: they got rid of Stephen Pleasant, whose name is basically 332 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: mud these days, and the quality went up. Yeah, and 333 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: that's when they established the Lighthouse Board, which is I 334 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: think what you were thinking to shape things up. In 335 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: eighteen fifty two, they said, let's get some fronel lenses 336 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: for all these lighthouses. Finally, Yeah, we can be like 337 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: the rest of the world. Pleasant dead. Uh, did you 338 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: know the Statue of Liberty was a lighthouse. I don't 339 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 1: know if I knew it, but when I read it, 340 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, yeah, but I don't know if it 341 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: unlocked some memory or if I'm just like, that's just 342 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: too obvious. I didn't know. Yeah, I was like, I 343 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: surely I knew that, right right that that was it. 344 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: For fifteen years it was a lighthouse in New York Harbor, 345 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: which is pretty neat. And then by nineteen thirty, when 346 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: electricity was effective and rampant um, you didn't need these 347 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: fires burning or candles burning or whale blubber. No, but 348 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: there were a lot of lighthouses where that we're on 349 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 1: like islands or on offshore like ledges like Minno's Ledge 350 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: or Eddie Stone in England. Um, that were just like 351 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: the technology to run electricity out there just was not around, 352 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: of course. Um, so they were still using oil of 353 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: various types to to fuel these things. Well into the 354 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: twentieth century, into the sixties, um easily, yeah, and they 355 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: were um still people working there, um living in the 356 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: lighthouse or on the property. Uh. Into the nineteen sixties 357 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: it was definitely more rare, but um and night. Uh 358 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,959 Speaker 1: that's when the Coast Guard brought about their lighthouse automation 359 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 1: and modernization program and that pretty much dwindled by the 360 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: end of that decade. It dwindled it down to sixty 361 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: that still had people working there. Yeah, sixty out of 362 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: a thousand. Today there's one in Boston, the Brewster Island, 363 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: one little bruster little Brewster Island was interfusing it with 364 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: Big Brewster. Well, there might be one Brewster's Millions Island, 365 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: Little Brewster, that's right. It was the first one in 366 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: the United States. Uh, seventeen sixteen was when it was built. 367 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: And then that one was replaced in Sight three and 368 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: it's the second oldest working one behind Sandy Hook, New Jersey, 369 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: is the right and the person that lives there is 370 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: basically living there as a tour guide, not necessarily like 371 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: guiding boats into harbor. They may do both. No, I 372 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: think it's still working. Yeah, well then I guess they 373 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 1: do both. I saw modern marvels on lighthouses and they 374 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: interviewed one of the light keepers on Brewster Island, little 375 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: Brewster Island, and he he was They showed him like 376 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: polishing the glass and everything. Yeah, but it's automated. I 377 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: got the light itself. I see. I see. So they 378 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: keep into our guided I think, okay, but yeah, he's 379 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: still I mean, he's providing a function there that's not 380 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: just show. Maybe I could that's what I could do. 381 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: Then you should have heard that guy. He's like, I 382 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: can't even begin to do it. But he was like 383 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: a hardcore light keeper in Boston. Yeah, I can imagine, 384 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: although I wouldn't be the best person because Chuck silent 385 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,719 Speaker 1: lighthouse story isn't really You're just like you just sweep 386 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: your arm in a room and turns out quietly. People 387 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: ask questions, I just wrap them on the knuckles out 388 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: all right, I'm getting all excited thinking about the prospects 389 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: of living in a lighthouse. So I'm gonna go do 390 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: some push ups and we'll come back right after this. So, Chuck, 391 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: say that you did live your life as a lightkeeper, 392 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: what would you what would it be like? Mm hmm. 393 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: First of all, what's what's your family background? Uh? Well, 394 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: my dad was a fisherman. Probably actually my my great 395 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: great grandfather was a fisherman. My grandfather was a lightkeeper. 396 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: My dad was a son of a light keeper, and 397 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: some mom was a keeper. Pirate captain. Pirate captain. Like 398 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,479 Speaker 1: Gina Davis. Yeah, that was a good movie. She's awesome. 399 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: Yeah she uh see. Thorn interviewed her recently on his 400 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: Bull's Eye show. She's just like the best, and they 401 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: were all excited in the office. Everyone was like, oh, man, 402 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: Gina Davis is the coolest. She supposedly was known for 403 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: bringing cookies to that she baked herself to interviews. Yeah, 404 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: she's a MENSA member. Yeah, I got a lot going 405 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: on there. Julius Smith, who works at the Max fun 406 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: HQ and produces Judge Sean Hodgman, said on her Facebook 407 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: she was like, Gina Davis is like the coolest aunt 408 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: of all cool aunts of all time. Yes, she was 409 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 1: in Beetle Juice. I mean, like, yeah, it didn't get 410 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: much cooler than that. She could she could just be 411 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: a total jerk and she was still awesome in Beetle Juice. 412 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: Um So, anyway, hats off to Eugena Davis. How'd that 413 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 1: come up? I don't even remember now, your mom was 414 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: a pirate captain alright, Gina Davis? Was that a shout 415 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: out to Cutthroat Island? I guess the movie. You're the 416 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 1: one that said it. I guess, Yeah, was that Cutthroat Island? Huh? 417 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: Is it the name of it? It was that bad 418 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 1: pirate movie. I loved it. That wasn't bad. It got 419 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: bad pressed, it wasn't bad. It's funny you like some 420 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: of the most legendarily bad movies of all time. It 421 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: wasn't that bad as far as just like critics and 422 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, man Ishtar, I never saw. I've actually 423 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: stayed away from his star. I also stayed away from 424 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 1: Rock the Kasbo because I saw that it was basically 425 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: an updated Ishtar. Did I even see that? I can't 426 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: remember If I watched it one night. Rock the Kasba. Yeah, 427 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: or if I wanted to and didn't. Like that's how 428 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: little of an impact it made. It's on Netflix. I 429 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: think I actually did watch it and it was just 430 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: sort of like, yeah, not very good. Yeah, no, ishtar 431 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: is a pretty good code word to stay away from 432 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: him movie. I never saw Ishtar? What else do I like? 433 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: That was bad? It was supposedly bad. I mean, like, 434 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: just have you have you seen cuts Rorod Island? Sure 435 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: it's terrible, it's not terrible. Um, all right, So we 436 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: were talking about the lineage what might get you into 437 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: the light keeping business. We were being coy and role playing, 438 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: but that is true people. It's a family business for 439 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: the most part. Uh your parents or your father might 440 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: have done it, or you come from a long line 441 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: of uh seafaring types. At the very least you feel 442 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: close to the sea. Yeah, Like if you want to 443 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: spend your time out there on a rocky point overlooking 444 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: the waves all day long, like you probably didn't come 445 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: from Kansas to do so, you know. Yeah, there they 446 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: have wheat watchers. They just sit in the tower and 447 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: watch the wheat and the flatness and they stand up 448 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: all of a sudden they're like, oh my God, there's 449 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: a wheat missing. There's a wheat. Um. One thing we 450 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: keep saying is men. That's because most of the lighthousekeepers 451 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: were men, but not all. No, not all, and not 452 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: all of them were necessarily white men either. There were 453 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 1: some very famous legendary African American lightkeepers and um, light 454 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: life savers as well. Surfmen is what they were called too. Yeah, 455 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: because supposedly you're just there to provide light and signal. 456 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 1: But when the S hits the f um, I think 457 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: you can say a fan fan when the S s s 458 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: it's a fan. Brave lightkeepers were known to go out 459 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: there and provide rescue. Yeah. Um. And one of them 460 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: was a woman named Ida Lewis, actually American hero. She 461 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: grew up on Lime Rock Island, uh, near Newport, Rhode 462 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: Island and Newport Harbor, and her dad was a lightkeeper, 463 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: so she followed that tradition and she actually started taking 464 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: over the duties after her father had a stroke. Um 465 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: and uh, she just became a lightkeeper, but a very 466 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: famous one for her life saving skills. Rescued a dozen 467 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: men over the years. No, actually eighteen affirmed. They think 468 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: it's as high as twenty five. They're not gonna say dozens. 469 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: She uh, she rescued her last person at age sixty three. Yeah, 470 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: she's quite a lady, that's but for the most part, 471 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: And and she's not the only one who saved lives, 472 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: like there were plenty out there that did. But it 473 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: was not h an expected role of a light keeper 474 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: because the Coast Guard had a lifesaver house usually nearby 475 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: a lighthouse, because the lighthouse was there in the first 476 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: place too, because there was a treacherous area. So it 477 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: just makes sense to also put a life saving house 478 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: there because even with the light the lighthouse itself, ship 479 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: may still run the ground and there may be rescuing 480 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: And if you want to be thrilled, there's a really 481 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: neat um article that's posted on this podcast page about 482 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: the p Island Um life Saving House. It was um. 483 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: But by the way that pre Coastguard, we have the 484 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: U S Life Saving Service, which is what that term 485 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: comes from. Yeah, and then they merged everything together under Roosevelt, 486 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: and the the lighthouses and the life saving service all 487 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: came under the purview of the Coastguard. Right, we should 488 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: do one on the Coastguard. Remember that married couple that 489 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: were both Coastguards that lobbied us for many years until 490 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: they gave up. We're still thinking about you guys, and 491 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: we're still going to do a Coastguard podcast. Don't worry 492 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: eventually years and years later. Um So, pre nine when 493 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: they made the Coastguard is where you really can't find 494 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: a whole lot of written history. Now, a lot of 495 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: that has been lost to time. And um they say 496 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: here in this article that what we have now our 497 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: stories from families that remain lower. Yeah, lore, it's pretty neat. 498 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: Yeah and then chuck. Um. So if you're in a lighthouse, 499 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: even as remote and cut off as they are, if 500 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: you hated it, you would still be like, at least 501 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,959 Speaker 1: I'm not working on a light ship. Yes. So, before 502 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: they had booies like modern booies today there's there's buoys 503 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: out there. They're basically like floating lighthouses. In areas that 504 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: require some sort of warning but are just too far 505 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: off land to build a lighthouse, they put booties out there, 506 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: and today the booies are like sometimes something like forty 507 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: feet in diameter. They're huge, massive things. Um. But before 508 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: booies even they would use something called light ships, and 509 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: it's exactly what it sounds like. It's a lighthouse on 510 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: a ship and it's in a very remote area. You 511 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: are out there for months at a time. Yeah, you 512 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: just sail out and anchor down and live there right um, 513 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,479 Speaker 1: and the boats anchored all the time. You would have 514 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: to like go to and from the boat to the 515 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: to shore. Um. But while you're working there, it's just 516 00:31:55,120 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: mind bogglingly awful. But there was a lot of like insanity, Yeah, 517 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: that would happen, Like when the fog rolled in before 518 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: the evan of foghorns, you would have to yank the 519 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: bells rope the fog bell rope um every ten seconds, 520 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: twenty four hours a day for as long as the 521 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: fog was around. Every ten seconds you had to ring 522 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: a bell. That was your job. And if you didn't 523 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: then you were risking the lives of anybody passing by 524 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,959 Speaker 1: in the area. So not cool, man, not cool at all. 525 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: But the lightships, apparently we're just about as bad as 526 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: it it got as far as boredom, loneliness, isolation, hatred 527 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,719 Speaker 1: of bells. The lightship had it all. Hate bells. I 528 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: didn't I never worked on a lightship, but I'll bet 529 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: they hated bells. You would hear that in your sleep. 530 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: If you rang a bell every ten seconds for hours 531 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: at a stretch, you're not going to get that out 532 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: of your head. And even if you did, when you 533 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: tried to go to sleep, one of the guys on 534 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: the next shift would be out there ringing the bell anyway, 535 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: So you had draby nuts. Let's talk about some famous lighthouses. Well, 536 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: we already talked about the h the Pharos of Alexandria Um, 537 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: which is the oldest known lighthouse and at the time 538 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: they contend might have been the tallest thing on the 539 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: planet at fot that's super dull. Yeah, and it was 540 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: masonry too. They found it in underwater at the bot 541 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: the ocean. They found pieces of it and in Alexandria Harbor. 542 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,479 Speaker 1: I guess you mentioned Eddie Stone light already in Plymouth, England, 543 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: which is I guess that's where the fine gin comes from. Yeah, 544 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: still hitting Plymouth up if anyone out there works for Plymouth. 545 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: Oh man, it's such good gin. It's delicious. So is 546 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: Leopold's Leopold's gin. Yeah, it's American gin really good too good. 547 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: That's that's my go to American gin. Nice, Although I 548 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: like most American jin's, but that's been Have you had 549 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: st George? I love that stuff. Yeah, there's three of them. 550 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: One of them I do not care for it all really, 551 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: but the other two I like. I'll bet it's the 552 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: terror Terry War. You don't like it's so got a 553 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 1: weird taste. Yeah, but love it. But I don't appreciate 554 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: its own things, the fact that it doesn't have its 555 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 1: own classification of gin like old Tom or Jennifer or 556 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: something like that. It should have its own thing like 557 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: foot gin. I love that stuff. It's dude, it's really good. 558 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: You know what it's really good with? Have you ever 559 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: had um fever tree bitter lemon? No, it's like a 560 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 1: lemony lemon, limy, citrusy drink, but without much sweetness. Um 561 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: that with the Territory war gin and juice. Yeah, you know, 562 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: but it's it's knock your socks off. Yeah, I don't 563 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 1: care for it. And you know what, I'll just go 564 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: ahead and bring you my bottle because I've had like 565 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: two drinks out of it. Try to wrap my head around. 566 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: I will take you just can't do it. I will 567 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: email you tonight as a reminder, say hey, I'll bring 568 00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 1: in that st George, thanks man. And also, by the way, 569 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: I am now on because you know, I drink the 570 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: dirty Martini, but I don't eat olives, which is a 571 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:11,240 Speaker 1: little weird, just like the juice. Yeah, the brine um 572 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 1: with a twist. It's a little different. I know. I've 573 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: I've had that and um for years. I would have 574 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: empty jars of dry olives in my fridge and very 575 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: little juice. You know it's in there. I know what 576 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: you're talking about. Now. So now I bought Dirty Sue 577 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: olive juice and you can buy it in a bottle, 578 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: and I bought a box of it and it just 579 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 1: sits in the cabinet my house. And so big shout 580 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: out to Dirty Sue Olive brine. Really dirty? Is up 581 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: your martini? What's your gin that you use for this? Well? 582 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I love Plymouth, I love Hendrix and our 583 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: friends at Spring forty four. Gin, dude, send us gin 584 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: from a They said it's all about the water, and 585 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 1: they have like the best water on earth. They made 586 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: some old tom gin. Yeah, and it is. It is 587 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: delicious like it it made I love Martinez. Is it's 588 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: um old tom gin? Uh um marischino liqueur not the 589 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: cherry stuff, but like the real liquor, and then um, 590 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 1: some sweet vermouth. It's like probably the most perfect drink 591 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 1: anyone's ever made. It's very old. Um. That made maybe 592 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: the best Martinez I've ever had. That was good stuff. Well, 593 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: for a while lately I've been stirring. I got a 594 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: little martini picture or a cocktail picture to stir um. 595 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 1: But I'm back to shaking now because I've found out 596 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 1: that bruising gin is a total myth. So James Bond 597 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: wasn't cuckoo. No, you can't bruise gin. Yeah, that's all 598 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: just garbage. Do you use orange bitters in yours? No? 599 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: Really brightens it up, straight up dirty sue gin. I 600 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: do use a little vermouth, like I know that people 601 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: don't like vermouth at all anymore. Really, Yeah, I see 602 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: bartenders now don't use any vermouth. That's that's not a martini. 603 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 1: Well agreed, that's a gin, a child gin up with 604 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: some um. Just the one in the green Italian bottle? 605 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: Was that Dolan Blanc? Yeah, that's good stuff. But I 606 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: also found out recently that that vermouth is a wine 607 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: and you don't just keep it on your shelf for 608 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: two years, keep it in the fridge for maybe a month. Yeah, 609 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. So I've been drinking this old 610 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 1: old vermouth. You still can, It's not like you can't, 611 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: but just for the best possible impact, you want to 612 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: just get that small bottle. Yeah, I learned that the 613 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 1: hard way to. I'm gonna start doing that. Man. We 614 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: we should have our own cocktail show. We should because 615 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: we've just talked. We talked about booze a lot. We 616 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 1: don't need to. Let's drink about it. Has that covered? Yeah, 617 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,399 Speaker 1: that's true. Are good friends that let's drink about it. Yeah, 618 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,800 Speaker 1: and thanks also to Ben who sent us um some 619 00:37:53,360 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: ambler smooth ambler. Uh what was it called contradiction? That 620 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: stuff is good too, that's right man. Booze talk on lighthouses. 621 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: Who knew? Oh I bet you. There's a lot of 622 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,720 Speaker 1: boozeing that goes on a lighthouse. But they're not making 623 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 1: amazing drinks with St. George and bitter lemon. They're just 624 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: drinking that stuff straight out of the deer skin. Exactly. 625 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 1: Um where were we? Eddie Stone Lighthouse, Plymouth, England? This 626 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 1: that started? Um, this thing is it's a it's a 627 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,280 Speaker 1: very rough area to have a lighthouse, and it seems 628 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: like nature doesn't want a lighthouse there because over the 629 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: years it has been knocked down and burned down many 630 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: many times. This dude, basically um went out there by himself, 631 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 1: Harry Harry or Henry Winstanley in sixteen sixty six and 632 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 1: just started building this wooden lighthouse out and these rocks 633 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 1: off the coast of Plymouth. Himself got captured by a 634 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: French pirate released and lit the thing in and he 635 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,359 Speaker 1: actually hid. He deconstructed it and rebuilt it and died 636 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: in the second version of it. Really it got swept 637 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: away with him inside. But he was a pretty cool cat. 638 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: That was s three. Then another one in seventeen o 639 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,919 Speaker 1: eight was built that burned down in seventeen fifty five. 640 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: And then a guy named John Smeaton, he was an engineer. 641 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 1: He built one that was built to last for a 642 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: little while. He actually came up with what you think 643 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: of as the modern lighthouses. Stick at the bottom, tapers 644 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,879 Speaker 1: at the top, and then it flares out right below 645 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: the lantern. And the reason most lighthouses flare out right 646 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: below the lantern is when a wave comes up and 647 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: the waves can get that big. It won't ride up 648 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: into the lantern. It will be thrown back out to 649 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 1: see when it hits the flare. It's a water guard 650 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: pretty much. Interesting. I did not know that he was 651 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: a smart dude. Um. So that one lasted for a 652 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty three years, which was you know, as 653 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: far as the Eddy Stone Light is concerned, an eternity. 654 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: But eventually, uh, the Trinity House, which is England's version 655 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:03,439 Speaker 1: of the coastguard of the lighthouse, they said, no, let's 656 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:08,439 Speaker 1: let's tear that thing down this long, but we think 657 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,959 Speaker 1: it might not for much longer. But then they built 658 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 1: another one. This one actually they used almost a jigsaw 659 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: puzzle the foundation. Yeah, so when a wave hits it, 660 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 1: it actually compresses together and becomes stronger when a wave 661 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 1: smacking into it. So that was there for good wonderful 662 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: We talked about Boston Light. There's also the Cape Hatteras 663 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 1: on the outer banks of North Carolina, which is I 664 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: believe the tallest one in the United States two eight 665 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: feet and it's one of the most famous as well. 666 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: It's the one with the black and white barber pole design. Yeah, 667 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: that's sixty three for our friends everywhere else in the world. 668 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: Did you know that that one was in trouble? The 669 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: sea was encroaching upon it, and they got some money together. 670 00:40:53,760 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 1: Congress did and moved it. Moved this lighthouse feet ac 671 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,800 Speaker 1: inland over the course of twenty three days. They slowly 672 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: moved it on tracks. It was pretty amazing. It was 673 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:12,800 Speaker 1: on that modern marvels one. It's like fitz CARLDO. Sure, um, 674 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: I got a few more fast facts. Unless you have 675 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 1: something else, I'm done. Uh. Six hundred and eighty lighthouses 676 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: remaining in the US estimated out of that original thousand 677 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: plus thirty seven states have lighthouses, just not Kansas. Michigan 678 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,359 Speaker 1: has the most, don't they of all the states? Twenty 679 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: in Michigan because of the Great Lakes, I would imagine 680 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: makes sense. The East Coast says three one. West Coast 681 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 1: only has ninety four. I guess there's just a lot 682 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 1: more shipping and stuff. Huh need to step it up 683 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 1: West coast um and worldwide. Uh, we estimate seven more 684 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: than seventeen thousand lighthouses in two d and fifty countries 685 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 1: m and the brightest one Oak Island in North Carolina, 686 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:02,879 Speaker 1: fourteen million candle power. You can see it twenty four miles. Great. Yeah, 687 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: that's a lot. Fourteen million candles, all burning and once 688 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: pretty neat. It sounds like a new religion. The Candela's 689 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: really a million is one lighting their candle and I 690 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: think you just established it reciting the the Candela's prayer. Nice. 691 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: See we just started a religion. Yeah, that easy? Well 692 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 1: you did. I just bore a witness. That's all right. 693 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: You can be my faithful assistant. Thanks. Can I baptize you? Sure? Okay? Uh? 694 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 1: If you want to know more about lighthouses, you can 695 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 1: type that word into the search part how stuff works 696 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 1: dot com. And since I talked about baptizing Chuck, it's 697 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:48,399 Speaker 1: time for listener, ma'am. Since you talked about baptizing Chuck, 698 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 1: that must mean it's Hey, guys, I recently discovered your 699 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,800 Speaker 1: podcast and immediately fell in love. I'm thirsty for knowledge. 700 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: Find it quite impressive that you've become as I experts. 701 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: Not really, yeah, but I'm writing in to respond to 702 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 1: the controlled burn episode. I used to work for my 703 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 1: local county park system doing habitat and wildlife management, and 704 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 1: controlled burns took up many days in the early spring. 705 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 1: For US, our department only consists of about six to 706 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 1: seven people, three of which were licensed burn bosses by 707 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: the state. They make the burn plan, they light the fire, 708 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 1: and basically coordinate and oversee the entire operation. I would 709 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 1: make everybody call me burn boss job totallywood um. Additionally, 710 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 1: local fire departments volunteer personnel and sometimes equipment. Uh so 711 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,400 Speaker 1: they lend out their stuff, which is nice, and people 712 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,439 Speaker 1: such as water trucks to assist. We all said quite 713 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 1: a large number of park volunteers that go through our 714 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: training and help on fire line. On the fire line 715 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 1: as well, that would be neat. I would do that, yeah, 716 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,840 Speaker 1: like a Saturday afternoon. Sure, I'm sure it's different for 717 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 1: each state and agency. Um, but our burn bosses go 718 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 1: through training put on by the state in order to 719 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 1: get certified. I can't recall this as men and but 720 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,720 Speaker 1: another advantage of controlled burns is that the charred earth 721 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 1: absorbs light because it's black in color, more than it 722 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: normally would, causing the soil to heat more quickly and 723 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: thus early germination for the desired species. I had not 724 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 1: considered that. We didn't mention that good factoid there. Thanks 725 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:23,760 Speaker 1: for satisfying my wondering mind. Tracy comp and sent Sineta, Ohio. 726 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, Tracy. We appreciate that. Oh. We always 727 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,760 Speaker 1: love to hear from people who know what they're talking about. 728 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,360 Speaker 1: Burn Boss comp. Yeah. 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