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Speaker 1: Ahead an American Sunrise early edition. The irs.

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Speaker 2: It's not just for breakfast and autist anymore. The Internal

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Speaker 2: Fool around and find out Israel is prepping an entire

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Speaker 2: here in the US, Columbia University decided to south fooling

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Speaker 2: anti Semitic nonsense on campus. Four hundred million bucks were

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Speaker 2: And no, these attacks on Tesla's aren't just random. There

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Speaker 2: are now websites that are documenting the locations of Tesla's

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Speaker 2: while Canada is flaming with anti Trump fury, the unelected

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Speaker 2: Up North, American Sunrise Early edition begins.

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Speaker 3: Now, Welcome to American Sunrise Early Edition, the show where faith, freedom,

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Speaker 3: and the values that built this nation takes center.

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Speaker 1: Stack your good, thieves and bad deeds. That's how we're

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Speaker 1: gonna judge you.

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Speaker 3: Join host Jake Novak because he breaks down the stories

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Speaker 3: that matter.

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Speaker 1: He will be letting the public know regularly what we

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Speaker 3: American Sunrise Early Edition with your host Jake Novak starts.

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Speaker 2: Now, Welcome everyone to American Sunrise Early Edition.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jake Novak. It is a Monday, it is early spring.

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Speaker 1: What could go wrong? Oh, we have another good thing coming.

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Speaker 2: We have political editor from the Daily Signal, Tyler O'Neil

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Speaker 2: and Tyler with us.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Tyler.

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Speaker 2: For years, the pro open borders folks you'll know this argument,

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Speaker 2: illegal immigration is that those folks come here and pay taxes.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's debatable, okay, But if they pay taxes,

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Speaker 2: that also means that they should have some records of

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Speaker 1: So the Trump team is taking their workword.

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Speaker 2: I know millions of you watching right now are getting

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Speaker 1: Well, maybe they're going to work with us on something.

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Speaker 2: Because apparently the IRS is going to hand over to

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Speaker 2: ICE all the info they have on illegal aliens in

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Speaker 2: employers too. Does this has work for you, Tyler?

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Speaker 1: It works for me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: No, I think this is an excellent idea. The federal

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Speaker 5: government that is managing Americans taxes and ostensibly illegal aliens taxes,

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Speaker 1: And of course, you know, over.

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Speaker 5: The last administration, we saw people imported by the administration,

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Speaker 5: and I mean this is you know what I think,

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Speaker 2: And again I don't think they're targeting just some random person.

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Speaker 2: All right, Tyler, you have what I consider to be

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Speaker 2: Apparently there is now a so called heat map online

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Speaker 5: going after Elon Musk's money or Elon Musk's property or

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Speaker 5: violent because it doesn't involve attacking life. I don't know

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Speaker 2: Well, you know that KKK had the same argument. We're

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Speaker 2: I mean, really, this is old This is old fashioned hate.

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Speaker 2: let's go from hate to stupidity, Tyler, because here we

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Speaker 2: go again with Boston Mayor Michelle Wu. And I'm sorry

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Speaker 5: that relies on second class. You know, they're non citizens

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Speaker 5: this very cynical approach to grab power. Meanwhile, you're weakening

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Speaker 1: And the reason why I'm unemployable is because I give

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Speaker 2: Only people who give bad advice succeed as political consultants.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: for that and the big, big business exodus from Blue

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Speaker 1: And it was in Washington, d C. Where Jonathan Carl.

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Speaker 6: Okay, you're out there with the AOC today.

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Speaker 8: One of the untold stories of what's going on in

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Speaker 2: And even the people who watch ABC News don't have

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Speaker 1: Nice try all right?

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to American Sunrise Early Edition. I'm Jake Novac.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a look at where the markets will begin today,

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Speaker 2: and it's looking pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing some green here.

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Speaker 2: Escape from New York is not just a bad movie

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Speaker 2: Stalantis is offering voluntary buyouts to hourly UAW employees at

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Speaker 1: Again, I ask.

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Speaker 2: The UAW is basically a Ponzi scheme for their older

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Speaker 2: Cars seem more expensive to you? Well, it's not just you.

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Speaker 1: What's the deal with all these drones? All right?

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Speaker 2: Seriously, A lot of homeland and security experts are indeed

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Speaker 2: is dragonfly president and CEO Cameron Shell. Cameron, talk me

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Speaker 2: off the cliff here, or at least get me to

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Speaker 2: stop talking like Jerry Seinfeld.

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Speaker 4: Please great, well, thanks very much for having me today.

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Speaker 4: I really appreciate it. Dragonflies the world's oldest commercial drone manufacturer.

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Speaker 4: We've been supporting defense contractors for about twenty plus years now,

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Speaker 4: and actually one of our senior advisors is heads up

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Speaker 4: the Commission in New Jersey under order of the governor

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Speaker 4: to look into this matter. And the reality is that

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Speaker 4: drones are the new reality, and so there is seemingly,

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Speaker 4: without question, a significant portion of these drone sightings that

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Speaker 4: are not so covert but covert operations by likely foreign

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Speaker 4: entity or entities within the country that don't have America's

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Speaker 4: best interest at heart. If this was necessarily a US operation,

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Speaker 4: it would be much more covert. But these are so

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Speaker 4: overt and so many sightings that it's just plain and

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Speaker 4: simple that there's a lot going on here. One of

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Speaker 4: the misnow owners misunderstandings here, though, is that is that

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Speaker 4: these drones were sensitive installations, though we've seen how they

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Speaker 4: can just simply ground things like F thirty five's by

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Speaker 4: being up in the air. But even having drones anywhere

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Speaker 4: is a security risk because of the flight logs and

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Speaker 4: the sensors that they carry that they can monitor things

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Speaker 4: like everything from telephone conversations to traffic patterns to even

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Speaker 4: if it's a foreign made drone that's being used in

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Speaker 4: the commercial operation. Those flight logs can be accessible by

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Speaker 4: foreign governments, so they see how many surveys for construction

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Speaker 4: that are going on, or how many flights are happening

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Speaker 4: for agriculture, or what type of payloads. What are the

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Speaker 4: flight logs that are being said, what are the flight

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Speaker 4: patterns that are being made. It's not even so much

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Speaker 4: the the Tier one installations that are at risk, it's

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Speaker 4: bringing all that data together because nothing collects data better

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Speaker 4: than a drone. And we need laws right now that

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Speaker 4: can be put in place that allow us to deal

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Speaker 4: with these showings. There are there, and there is technology

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Speaker 4: that will allow us to deal.

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Speaker 2: He froze up. Oh, camera froze up there for a second.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully we'll get him back. I think he's back, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: all right, camera shot is frozen. All right, Well, anyway,

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to ask him again. So he's talking

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Speaker 2: about how we basically need rules and you know, there's

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Speaker 2: something I want to talk about that about how we

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Speaker 2: need rules for olirious.

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Speaker 1: He's back. I think he's back, Cameron, can you hear us?

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Speaker 6: Sure?

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Speaker 1: No, he's back.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Cameron be back. Okay, So Cameron, I'm gonna ask you.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to go to a different question right now. Well,

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Speaker 2: first of all, that answer, for those of you who

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Speaker 2: just missed it, that was a very good answer about

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Speaker 2: how we need some laws and regulations for this and

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Speaker 2: even and here you are someone who deals in the

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Speaker 2: private drone industry calling for that, which I think is interesting.

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Speaker 2: Usually you figure private industry doesn't want regulations, so you're

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Speaker 2: trying to be a responsible business owner here. It must

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Speaker 2: be frustrating for you to see these kinds of other

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Speaker 2: groups coming in, whether they're state actors or maybe other

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Speaker 2: private companies, kind of ruining it for the rest of you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, is that the way you're feeling.

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Speaker 4: Well, we've been at this for twenty five years, and

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Speaker 4: we've been calling and saying that this is going to happen,

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Speaker 4: and that a new era of intelligence and warfare and

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Speaker 4: risk is upon us now. Drones offer tremendous advantage, but

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Speaker 4: actually regulation in this case is something that's really important.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we're dealing with aircraft that can collect information

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Speaker 4: better than anything out there. Nothing collects information better than

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Speaker 4: a drone. So the more you know, within reason, the

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Speaker 4: more regulation that we've got to ensure that the act

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Speaker 4: in this space, companies like Dragonfly are able to provide responsible,

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Speaker 4: productive services and equipment for the betterment of America. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: by all means, the reason that this drone industry has

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Speaker 4: taken a while to get to where it is is

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Speaker 4: the need for regulation. But some of that regulatory environment

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Speaker 4: now needs to speed up.

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Speaker 2: Finally, Cameron, I'm not trying to surprise you here with

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Speaker 2: the question, but I'd love to get your best guests

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Speaker 2: because something that a lot of my viewers are still

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Speaker 2: wondering about the sudden decision back in January to move

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Speaker 2: President Trump's inaugural indoors. Now, there were some people saying

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Speaker 2: it was the weather. There were some people saying it

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Speaker 2: was something else. But do you think it's a plausible

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Speaker 2: theory that that was done because they were worried about

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Speaker 2: some kind of a drone threat during the inauguration.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think there were many factors, and without question,

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Speaker 4: one of those factors would be a drone threat and

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Speaker 4: our inability to defend against that at this moment. I'm

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Speaker 4: sure there were other factors as well, but it would

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Speaker 4: be completely naive to suspect that that wasn't a major contributor.

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Speaker 2: All Right, thank you so much, Cameron Shell Dragonfly. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for being a responsible private business owner and talking.

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Speaker 1: About these kinds of things that really really helps. All Right,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Coming up.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Harvard, you're up with Columbia now complying with it,

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Speaker 2: with everything that they need to do to get that

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Speaker 2: Trump administration to get their money back.

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Speaker 1: What is Harvard's excuse and the other ivy's here's an answer.

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Speaker 1: They don't have an excuse.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk to a former Harvard student who's

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Speaker 2: putting that school speed to the fire. By the way,

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Speaker 2: and it's all about talking about these campuses and their

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Speaker 2: anti semitism. But you know what, all of America wants

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Speaker 2: to see it end. Here's what's going to happen. They

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Speaker 2: want the National Guard on campus. If they don't do

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Speaker 2: anything to stop, we'll be right back in an American

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Speaker 2: sunrise earlier. It's Monday, March twenty fourth. Here are some

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Speaker 2: of today's top stories. The irs. It's not just for

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Speaker 2: breakfast and audits anymore. The Internal Revenue Service is about

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Speaker 2: to hand over to ICE the info it has on

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Speaker 2: millions of illegal aliens.

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Speaker 1: In this country. And guess what, it's a lot of info.

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Speaker 2: The knives are still out for Chuck Schumer, but the

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Speaker 2: New York Senator is pushing back against efforts to force

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Speaker 2: him to step down as Minority leader.

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Speaker 1: But there may be many more attempts to push him

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Speaker 1: out to come.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Schumer, or should I say not speaking of Schumer,

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Speaker 2: Senator Bernie Sanders bolts from an ABC News interview just

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Speaker 2: because he thought he was close to being asked about

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Speaker 2: Schumer's fade as the leader or as a senator in

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Speaker 2: New York. Touchy, touchy, Bernie. And back here in the US,

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Speaker 2: Columbia University says it decided to stop fooling around and agreed,

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Speaker 2: apparently to President Trump's demand to reform the anti Semitic

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Speaker 2: nonsense on campus. Four hundred million bucks were at stake.

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Speaker 2: Now it's Harvard's stern, But has Columbia really complied? American

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Speaker 2: Sunrise Early Edition continues. Now, welcome back to American Sunrise

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Speaker 2: Early Edition. This is a Monday especially a big thanks

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Speaker 2: to everyone following on Getter and Rumble and on the

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Speaker 2: Getter chat, lots of you making your comments and watching

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Speaker 2: him looking at him.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for that.

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Speaker 2: Welcome you back, welcome back again, and joining me now

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Speaker 2: right now is higher education reform and Jewish civil rights

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Speaker 2: activist former Harvard law.

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Speaker 1: Student Ben Mede.

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Speaker 2: Joe, Ben, you had a chance to check out Columbia's

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Speaker 2: statement saying that they, I guess, agreed to the Trump

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Speaker 2: Administration's demand to combat anti semitism on campus. Do you

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Speaker 2: think this looks promising or is Columbia fudging it a

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Speaker 2: little bit here?

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Speaker 1: Ben?

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Speaker 6: First, thanks for having me on this morning, Jake.

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Speaker 9: I wish I could say that Columbia and school that

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Speaker 9: might be following its leads soon we're finally complying with

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Speaker 9: the Trump administration. But unfortunately Columbia has done what can

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Speaker 9: only really be described as a bureaucratic, administrative sleight of

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Speaker 9: hand of the kind that we really should have expected

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Speaker 9: from all along. The coverage right now and most outlets

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Speaker 9: is saying that Columbia has caved to the Trump Administration's

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Speaker 9: demands in order to get back four hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 9: First just in terms of the mechanics of its engagement

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Speaker 9: with the administration. Columbia has not gotten back a penny yet,

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Speaker 9: and the agreement that it's come to so far is

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Speaker 9: only to now open the next stage of negotiation toward

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Speaker 9: getting back that four hundred million. So nothing has been

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Speaker 9: given back to Columbia. And this is the correct approach

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Speaker 9: from the Trump administration precisely because this first pre agreement,

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Speaker 9: which is now going to lead to more formal negotiations

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Speaker 9: towards setting back the money that was taken from it,

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Speaker 9: this first agreement is actually not really in compliance with

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Speaker 9: what the Trump administry demanded.

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Speaker 6: So here are a few examples.

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Speaker 9: The Trump administration asked Columbia to complete disciplinary proceedings for

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Speaker 9: all of the people who took over Columbia's Hamilton Hall

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Speaker 9: and engaged in encampments, including expulsions and multi year suspensions.

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Speaker 9: Now we do know that about twenty two students were

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Speaker 9: indeed sanctioned, including some who were expelled in recent days. However,

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Speaker 9: there was a second encampment and we haven't yet seen

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Speaker 9: whether those students are going to be disciplined. Appeals are

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Speaker 9: still ongoing, and some of the participants in the first

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Speaker 9: encampment were let off with time served after brief terance suspensions.

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Speaker 6: That's just one a.

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Speaker 9: Second, which is really going to the heart of how

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Speaker 9: some of these extremely anti Semitic, anti American, cruel and

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Speaker 9: unlawful protests and riots have been allowed to go on.

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Speaker 9: The Trump administration asked Columbia to finally institute a mask van,

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Speaker 9: a ban on any use of masks except for health

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Speaker 9: reasons on the Columbia campus, so that people couldn't go

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Speaker 9: around protesting and covering up their faces like cowards, which

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Speaker 9: most of them are. However, Columbia did not actually institute

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Speaker 9: a mask ban. What Columbia did was say that people

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Speaker 9: generally shouldn't wear masks, or if they do wear masks,

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Speaker 9: they must provide identification when asked. Colombia didn't even go

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Speaker 9: so far as to say that when individuals are wearing

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Speaker 9: masks on campus or wearing masks during protests, they must

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Speaker 9: always wear id on the outside of whatever it is

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Speaker 9: they happen to be wearing. That was essentially the minimum

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Speaker 9: the Trumpet administration asked. What Columbia did was to say, well,

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Speaker 9: if you do wear a mask, and if we then

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Speaker 9: ask you for identification, you should provide it. That's not

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Speaker 9: compliance for what the Trumpe administration asked for, and essentially

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Speaker 9: it puts the onus on Columbia to now enforce this

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Speaker 9: option to ask people in masks to show identification. But

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Speaker 9: that goes back to the problem that got us here

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Speaker 9: in the first place, which is the Columbia was not

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Speaker 9: enforcing its own rules. These are just two examples of

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Speaker 9: how Colombia is complying. If I could just give you

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Speaker 9: know at least one more. Columbia was asked to make

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Speaker 9: sure that recognize student groups and individuals who are operating

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Speaker 9: as constituent members of these student groups and student coalitions

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Speaker 9: like the one that Mahmoud Khalil was involved in, which

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Speaker 9: is called Columbia University Apartheid Divest, would be sanctioned and

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Speaker 9: held accountable through formal investigations and expelled as appropriate. We're

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Speaker 9: still waiting on consequences for student groups that were part

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Speaker 9: of this big Columbia University apartheid divest coalition. We're still

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Speaker 9: waiting to see Columbia do something it would do if

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Speaker 9: any other Columbia student or any other person in the world.

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Speaker 9: We're using the Columbia University name without authorization, Colombia would

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Speaker 9: send them.

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Speaker 6: A season desist. Albia would sue them.

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Speaker 9: If I started printing out T shirts that said I

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Speaker 9: Love Columbia University, which I never would because I don't.

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Speaker 9: Columbia University would find out about it, and they would

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Speaker 9: tell me to take down my Shopify accounts and send

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Speaker 9: me a seasoned desist for using the Columbia University name

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Speaker 9: to make money or to do something else without Columbia's permission.

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Speaker 9: When it comes to Columbia University apartheid infest, Columbia University

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Speaker 9: has not taken any legal action to prevent the use

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Speaker 9: of their name, of their intellectual property that's essentially being

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Speaker 9: used by pro Hamas radicals. Columbia knows that this is happening.

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Speaker 9: Columbia would take legal steps to prevent this from happening

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Speaker 9: if you've tried to print out your own.

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Speaker 6: T shirts that said I love Columbia.

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Speaker 9: But when it comes to a student group that's been

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Speaker 9: harassing and terrorizing Jurish students American students.

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Speaker 6: For a year and a half, Columbia has done nothing.

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Speaker 2: Then I want to ask you about another university because

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Speaker 2: you're a former Harvard law student and you were very

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Speaker 2: involved what was going on there, and I know you

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Speaker 2: publicly commented on then president Claudine Gay and asking her

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Speaker 2: to step down. She's still there, by the way, she's

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Speaker 2: not the president, but she's still a highly paid professor.

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Speaker 2: What can you tell us about Harvard and what's the

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Speaker 2: latest with that situation, because it isn't just Colombia, of.

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Speaker 6: Course, unfortunately, it isn't just Columbia.

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Speaker 9: Frankly, the two schools that have been really the worst

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Speaker 9: over the past year and a half, but even going

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Speaker 9: back many years prior, are Columbia and Harvard. Let's just

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Speaker 9: talk about what's going on in the past two or

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Speaker 9: three weeks at Harvard. First, just two weeks ago, Columbia's

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Speaker 9: pardon me, Harvard's Palestine Solidarity group called the psc, a

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Speaker 9: student group, was allowed to host a man named Mohammed

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Speaker 9: el Kert. Mohammad el Kurt is a so called journalist,

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Speaker 9: essentially hamas sympathizing journalist who has said as detestable and

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Speaker 9: condemnable things as you know, all Zionists should perish. He's

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Speaker 9: used that sort of language in the past in writing

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Speaker 9: publicly and retweeted such language, and Harvard fully aware that

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Speaker 9: he'd engaged in this kind of threatening speech and conduct,

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Speaker 9: speech that creates an unlawful, hostile environment, and violation of

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Speaker 9: Titles six of the Civil Rights Act in nineteen sixty

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Speaker 9: four with respect to Jewish students on the basis of

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Speaker 9: ethnicity and ethnic characteristics and shared ancestry and national origin

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Speaker 9: with Israel or affiliation with Israel. Harvard, fully aware of this,

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Speaker 9: nevertheless allowed Muhammadel Kurd to come to Harvard's campus to

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Speaker 9: speak just about two weeks ago. Just another week or

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Speaker 9: two prior to that, a Harvard employee was caught on

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Speaker 9: film ripping down posters in recognition of and in remembrance

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Speaker 9: of the Beba's children who were so horrifically murdered by Thamas,

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Speaker 9: along with their mother and both of their mother's parents,

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Speaker 9: both of their mothers parents, their grandparents.

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Speaker 6: On my mother's.

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Speaker 9: Side, we had a Harvard staffer ripping down posters of

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Speaker 9: Jewish and Israeli victims of October seventh. This wasn't something

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Speaker 9: that happened a year and a half ago or six

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Speaker 9: months ago. This happened two to three weeks ago, with

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Speaker 9: Harvard's full awareness. Harvard, as of today, still has not

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Speaker 9: dissolved the PSC, this ardently anti Israel student group, despite

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Speaker 9: having now been asked not only in a petition which

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Speaker 9: over three thousand people have signed, but also been asked

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Speaker 9: to do by Harvard Kabad, the Jewish you know, religious

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Speaker 9: and social group on campus or you know, one of

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Speaker 9: them and the one that's been you know most you

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Speaker 9: know ardent in its defensive you know Jewish students, which

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Speaker 9: all shows that Harvard still isn't playing ball. Meanwhile, we

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Speaker 9: know that Harvard is one of at least tense schools

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Speaker 9: that the task Force to combat Anti Semitism, the multi

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Speaker 9: agency task Force led by Leo Terra, the DOJ, but

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Speaker 9: also involving the Department of Education and Health and Human

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Speaker 9: Services and the GSA. We know that Harvard is one

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Speaker 9: of ten schools that is on the task Force list

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Speaker 9: to be visited because the Trumpet administration has correctly identified

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Speaker 9: Harvard as a school that has entrenched anti Semitism.

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Speaker 10: We also know that Harvard is one of fifty five

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Speaker 10: schools which new Education Secretary Linda mc maham has identified

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Speaker 10: as schools that are under investigation or monitoring in connection

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Speaker 10: with complaints.

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Speaker 9: I could give you a bit of a preview as

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Speaker 9: to what I suspect is going on with regard to

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Speaker 9: whether Harvard is simply being monitored or whether Harvard is

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Speaker 9: being investigated by the Department of Education separate from the

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Speaker 9: task forces appending visit. Whether that's happening from the Department

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Speaker 9: of Education side just in terms of monitoring, or whether

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Speaker 9: it's an investigation and response to a complaint.

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Speaker 6: Wink wink.

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Speaker 9: But for now, I'll just say that the Trumpet administration

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Speaker 9: is well aware that Harvard's problems did not end with

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Speaker 9: Clauding Gay's resistination.

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Speaker 6: They did not end with the appointment of.

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Speaker 9: Former provost now interim president and now more recently you know,

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Speaker 9: full time president Alan Garber. Alan Garber has not yet

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Speaker 9: fully stuck for Jewish students. He has allowed a lot

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Speaker 9: of misconduct to continue at the school, I can tell you,

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Speaker 9: and this is something I'm not sure I was ready

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Speaker 9: to share on your show, but I'll tell you you

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Speaker 9: know right now, Harvard is still actively ignoring complaints from

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Speaker 9: Jewish students filed under the schools Non discrimination and anti

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Speaker 9: bullying policy. Harvard is still making excuses for and looking

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Speaker 9: for reasons not to hear, not even to open, not

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Speaker 9: even to look at non discrimination and anti bullying policy

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Speaker 9: complaints filed by Jewish students against Harvard. Harvard is still

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Speaker 9: not complying with Title six of the Civil Rights Act

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Speaker 9: of nineteen sixty four, and they know it because dozens

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Speaker 9: of Harvard administrators are being contacted by people they are

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Speaker 9: ignoring and being told you are ignoring me.

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Speaker 6: And what does.

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Speaker 9: Harvard's administration do. They continue ignoring these people. So this

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Speaker 9: is a serious pattern of non compliance. And I hope

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Speaker 9: that what we're going to see from Harvard is the

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Speaker 9: in response to serious action by the Trumpet administration in

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Speaker 9: the form of similar revocations of funds as they've done

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Speaker 9: at Columbia, Harvard will finally start start to play ball.

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Speaker 9: One other thing I wanted to share about Harvard.

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Speaker 2: Then I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Ben, I got it. We're

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Speaker 2: running out of time, but I just everyone check this

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Speaker 2: guy out, Ben Bideo Joe on Twitter. We're gonna have

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Speaker 2: you back on. You're gonna be a great commentsator for

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Speaker 2: us as this stuff goes on. And thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for your advocacy and thank you for giving us

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Speaker 2: the inside story about not just Columbia but also Harvard.

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Speaker 1: We're going to have you back on. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: All right, Coming up, thanks a special appearance from Terrence

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Speaker 2: Bates from the American Sunrise Show, we'll be talking about

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Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer fighting for his political life. Stay tuned, all right,

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Speaker 2: the control room is showing this live shot of Stove

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Speaker 2: Vermont again. It's a beautiful shot, and I have a

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Speaker 2: feeling the reason why they're doing this is they want

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Speaker 2: me to send them the video of me wiping out

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Speaker 2: and being a pathetic skier that I have from a

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Speaker 2: few weeks ago. I will provide that at some point

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Speaker 2: I actually have a reason to use it in a

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Speaker 2: few days. I would love to be a better skier.

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Speaker 2: I would love to be there right now. It looks

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Speaker 2: a little bit bare, but it's still pretty nice.

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Speaker 1: All right. Welcome back to American Sunrise Early Edition.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jake Novak and Terrence Bates joins me right now

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Speaker 2: from the big show American Sunrise and Terrence. I am

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Speaker 2: watching intently getting out my popcorn as the Democrats finally

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Speaker 2: get a taste of democracy.

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Speaker 1: You know, Republicans have been dealing with this for many years.

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Speaker 2: They've been trying to unseat the speaker every few months.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not making any editorial comment about the people

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Speaker 2: who want to do that. I'm just making the I

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Speaker 2: think objective comment that Republicans have been putting their own

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Speaker 2: leadership in Congress to feet to the fire much more

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Speaker 2: often when now Chuck Schumer is having his feet put

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Speaker 2: to the fire, so to speak. A lot of Democrats

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Speaker 2: won him out as the Demo Democrats minority leader. He's

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Speaker 2: saying he won't step down. Do you think he's gonna

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Speaker 2: win this one?

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Speaker 1: Terrence?

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Speaker 7: What is a win? I guess that's the question. What

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Speaker 7: constitutes a win? Is he going to stay? Absolutely? I

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Speaker 7: don't think he will step down. I don't think he's

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Speaker 7: going to step aside. For the next several years, at

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Speaker 7: least he probably will be the Senate Minority leader, or

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Speaker 7: he will at least be the Senate leader of Democrats.

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Speaker 7: One of the things I find interesting, though, is it

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Speaker 7: typically what we've seen, and this is really for the

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Speaker 7: past decades. I don't think this is a recent thing.

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Speaker 7: We're talking decades. Democrats have really been united, even when wrong,

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Speaker 7: They've been united in how they're going to move forward.

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Speaker 7: They've been in lockstep. And so now we're seeing some

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Speaker 7: pretty significant fissures within the Democratic Party in terms of policy,

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Speaker 7: and also in terms of leadership, and right now it

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Speaker 7: seems that Chuck Schumer is kind of the face of

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Speaker 7: the disconnect and the discord within the Democratic Party. And

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Speaker 7: so I think it's interesting to watch and I'm curious

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Speaker 7: to see how this ultimately will be paying will pan out.

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Speaker 7: But to your question, I do believe that Chuck Schumer

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Speaker 7: is going to stick around and that eventually all the

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Speaker 7: booze and all the hissing within the party is going

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Speaker 7: to subside.

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Speaker 2: Now, that's that's an interesting take. I mean, because I think,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'll give you a little bit of inside baseball. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: I'm coming out of New York and I have a

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Speaker 2: long history and Chuck Schumer sha sat right next to

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Speaker 2: me at my high school graduation on the dais when

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Speaker 2: he was a congressman.

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Speaker 1: I've known this guy for a long.

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Speaker 2: Time, and I can tell you, you know, he does have

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Speaker 2: a pretty good survival mechanism in there.

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Speaker 1: So if that's what you're referring to, I'll give it

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Speaker 1: to you. They're going to tell you something.

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Speaker 2: I think that the attack centers against Chuck Schumer are

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Speaker 2: about to multiply. So Alexandria Acasio Cortez AOC heavily rumored

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Speaker 2: to be preparing to challenge him in a primary.

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Speaker 1: For the Senate.

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Speaker 2: Now, I think he defeats her if it's just one

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Speaker 2: on one. But Richie Torres, who is a so called

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Speaker 2: moderate republic Democrat congressman from the Bronx, who has been

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Speaker 2: much more likable to moderate Democrats in New York City

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Speaker 2: who are a bigger number of them than you might realize.

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Speaker 2: He's been looking for the governor's job. He's been looking

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Speaker 2: to primary Kathy Hochel. But I think a lot of

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Speaker 2: people are saying now that Schumer is now vulnerable, Torres

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Speaker 2: should jump in on that. And if it's Torres and

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Speaker 2: AOC against Schumer, I don't think Schumer can win, especially

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Speaker 2: if Torres is able to push AOC out. So there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of inside baseball going on here. But you know, Terrence,

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Speaker 2: I don't think you're that wrong. It's probably not a

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Speaker 2: good idea to bet against this guy. He's been a

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Speaker 2: survivalist for a long time.

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Speaker 7: But and if I can just add to your point,

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Speaker 7: if it's a three person race, then the numb mbers

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Speaker 7: just probably won't add up for Chuck Schumer. It's a

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Speaker 7: numbers game at that point. As you said, if it's

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Speaker 7: AOC versus Chuck Schumer, Chuck Schumer very likely would win

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Speaker 7: that simply for name recognition and because it's habitual for people,

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Speaker 7: it's habit for them to vote for Chuck Schumer for

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Speaker 7: US Senate. If it's a three person race, the numbers

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Speaker 7: may not add up for him.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: But again, my alter ego, Terrence is Jake Novak, unemployable

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Speaker 2: political consultant. I give good advice, which is why I

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Speaker 2: will never be hired as a political consultant. You only

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Speaker 2: get successful in that business if you are bad at

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Speaker 2: what you do. Terrance Bace is about to join us

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Speaker 2: again now for another two hours on American Sunrise. Thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for joining me this morning, Terrence, and

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Speaker 2: thank you so much to all of you for doing

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Speaker 2: the same. We got a long week ahead of us,

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Speaker 2: but as as good as this show, we're going to

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Speaker 2: be enjoying a short week, and at least the way

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Speaker 2: it feels. American Sunrise is coming up with TV. It's

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Speaker 2: David Brody. He's out. Actually, Doctor g will be with him.