Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Camra Judge.
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas in
Speaker 2: a Pod the Twat Seat with me and Tamra Judge.
Speaker 2: We are so excited to bring Olivia Flowers on. But before,
Speaker 2: tam did you see the breaking news?
Speaker 3: I did I think that we should discuss it?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, so right here, this is a Deadline article.
Speaker 2: Tom Girardi found guilty and massive Ponzi scheme. A Los
Speaker 2: Angeles jury convicted Tom Gararti of running a massive tenuere
Speaker 2: Ponzi scheme in which he siphoned at least fifteen million
Speaker 2: dollars in settlement funds from four of his legal clients.
Speaker 2: Thomas found guilty of all four wired charges, all four
Speaker 2: why Are fraud charges, and faces a potential prison sentence
Speaker 2: of up to twenty years on each count. His sentencing
Speaker 2: is scheduled for December. Girardi, who has dementia, showed no
Speaker 2: visible reaction as the verdicts were read. David R. Lera
Speaker 2: Girardi's son in law and former lawyer at Girardi Keyes,
Speaker 2: also faces federal charges in Chicago. His trial is set
Speaker 2: for March third.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I had no idea that his son
Speaker 3: in law was involved in this too.
Speaker 2: Me neither.
Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't know he actually had a son in law,
Speaker 3: to be honest with.
Speaker 2: You, Yeah, me neither. But what I did realize there
Speaker 2: was a name missing, and that was Erica Girardi. Yes.
Speaker 3: Now a lot of people are asking what does this
Speaker 3: mean for Erica.
Speaker 2: I'm not a lawyer, so I have no idea, nor
Speaker 2: have I spoken to Erica about this.
Speaker 3: It's my understanding that no charges have been.
Speaker 2: Everything was dropped.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, so this is the end of it, and
Speaker 3: then he will be sentenced. Is that correct?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, but what does that mean in like
Speaker 2: the dementia of it all. Does that mean they don't
Speaker 2: believe that he had it or he's still I don't know.
Speaker 3: Does that mean he stays in a home for dementia.
Speaker 3: Does that mean he goes to jail?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I'm curious to see what happens
Speaker 3: to him. He's still in a home right for dementia?
Speaker 2: Is that correct? Correct? And I mean you could see
Speaker 2: his face when he walked out. There's multiple times, or
Speaker 2: he didn't even know that like what his lawyer's name was,
Speaker 2: what he was talking about.
Speaker 3: But there's also people saying that it's an act. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so it's it's it's crazy. I mean, but as Erica's friend, Like,
Speaker 3: what do you have to say, like if you talk
Speaker 3: to her about this or are you going to talk
Speaker 3: to her about it? Are you going to let her
Speaker 3: open up to you if she wants to?
Speaker 2: I think, because I mean, we hear it all the
Speaker 2: time on watch What Happens Live. Whenever there's anything legal involved,
Speaker 2: you know, you can never really answer any questions or
Speaker 2: talk about it. So I feel like, out of respect
Speaker 2: for her considering her name is not mentioned anywhere in this,
Speaker 2: I don't think it's my place or necessary for me
Speaker 2: to talk about it with her because no matter what
Speaker 2: her relationship is with Tom or what it was, I
Speaker 2: would imagine this is extremely hard to watch. It's extremely
Speaker 2: hard to watch it.
Speaker 3: I know it's got to be. I mean, she's spent
Speaker 3: what twenty five years with him, is that correct? Something
Speaker 3: along those lines.
Speaker 2: It's really long time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's got to be really hard not to mention
Speaker 3: what Erica has gone through in the past few years,
Speaker 3: having to defend herself, the money that has cost her
Speaker 3: for his bad doings.
Speaker 2: Do you think that the cameras will go back up.
Speaker 2: I don't know, because I.
Speaker 3: Mean I have a feeling they will. It's kind of
Speaker 3: like this same timing as oc with the sixteen million
Speaker 3: dollar fraud investigation that was involved on our show, cameras
Speaker 3: went back up.
Speaker 2: So how long did cameras go back up for that.
Speaker 3: It was a week or so, maybe a couple weeks.
Speaker 3: If it might have been longer, I'm not sure. I
Speaker 3: can't I honestly can't remember, but it was a little while.
Speaker 3: And I know that cameras stopped a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 3: right with Beverly Hills.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they had their final trip. Yeah, So
Speaker 2: I think they just have confessionals left. I mean, who knows,
Speaker 2: maybe they will just dig in instead of putting cameras
Speaker 2: back up, they'll just ask all the women you know what,
Speaker 2: you know, Like, I'm sure they're only on their like
Speaker 2: first or second looks for their confessionals. So I'm sure
Speaker 2: they're going to talk about it.
Speaker 3: But I bet they'll bring cameras up and they'll be
Speaker 3: some kind of meeting at someone's house and just to
Speaker 3: talk about it with Erica, I have a.
Speaker 2: How much can chieve and say, that's the thing like
Speaker 2: when lawsuits are involved, how much can people? And I
Speaker 2: think it's over now. I think it's over.
Speaker 3: Other than the son in law, I think that, uh,
Speaker 3: for Tom, it's over and next he'll just get sentenced.
Speaker 4: But how I mean, God, it's got her and her feelings.
Speaker 4: Oh for sure, it's for sure and heartbreaking breaking for
Speaker 4: all these victims that were involved.
Speaker 2: In this and we're stammed. Scheme is pretty serious. And
Speaker 2: that much money, I mean, that's more money than we'll
Speaker 2: ever have tam and that was taken.
Speaker 5: From now we're going to be very rich one day rich, Yeah,
Speaker 5: from from your foot OnlyFans account that we're starting. Yes,
Speaker 5: I should, we should do a joint one, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't think it's appropriate for me to
Speaker 2: dig into it with eric it's just what we already know.
Speaker 2: We have her opinions on everything from season's past, and
Speaker 2: I would think that, you know, all of the emotions
Speaker 2: that are probably flooding her coming with this news must
Speaker 2: be a lot and not something I need to cover
Speaker 2: on the Real Household's Orange County recap.
Speaker 3: No other there's other million dollar scandals to cover on
Speaker 3: Orange County.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys got your own shit show we got
Speaker 2: to cover, so we'll be booked. Your own shit show going.
Speaker 2: But until then, let's dig into Olivia flowers shit show
Speaker 2: and see what she's up to.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's go.
Speaker 2: Olivia Flowers is a true Southern bell who returned home
Speaker 2: to Charleston shortly before the pandemic hit and what was
Speaker 2: supposed to be a week long vacation turned into a
Speaker 2: permanent stay. She was clearly on Southern Charm before coming
Speaker 2: back to her hometown. Olivia was working as a production
Speaker 2: assistant in Los Angeles. Then I want to know what
Speaker 2: show she was working for. Oh, I do too, Let's
Speaker 2: ask her. But she was on Southern Charm for two seasons.
Speaker 2: She joined the show and it's eight season as a
Speaker 2: love interest of Austin prol Flowers recently got cut from
Speaker 2: the show's cast for season ten. It wasn't my choice,
Speaker 2: Flowers told band of Pump Rules stars. She say, I mean,
Speaker 2: I was super bummed a lot of people I think
Speaker 2: made the choice because I have this new relationship and
Speaker 2: I'm choosing another path. Flowers said that she received a
Speaker 2: call them from the production company behind the reality series
Speaker 2: a couple weeks before filming, and that's kind of where
Speaker 2: we are. I heard that she lives in Los Angeles now,
Speaker 2: but let's kind of really yeah, so let's bring her
Speaker 2: in kind of see what she's up to, and also
Speaker 2: try to figure out when Southern Charm is starting to
Speaker 2: AIRIC for us. Hi, you look beautiful, Thank you, so
Speaker 2: do y'all. I don't know about that. We wake up
Speaker 2: and yeah, we're here every day. We're just showing up
Speaker 2: doing Yes.
Speaker 6: Yes, I was going to be in l at this time,
Speaker 6: and I was going to get to the this like
Speaker 6: go meet you at the studio and oh, that's right.
Speaker 3: You were supposed to come in studio and something change.
Speaker 3: So where are you right now?
Speaker 7: I'm in Charleston.
Speaker 2: Well, we heard that you live in LA. Now is
Speaker 2: that true?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 6: I mean I'm in I go and like visit there.
Speaker 6: I lived in LA three years ago.
Speaker 3: But I know you were working with the production company
Speaker 3: right work for what what production company?
Speaker 7: Well?
Speaker 6: I was it was it was I was a production
Speaker 6: assistant over at Paramount and so I just kind of freelance,
Speaker 6: like I did a bunch of different shows and then
Speaker 6: I started working as like the assistant to this acting
Speaker 6: coach with auditioning by heart, and she would be like
Speaker 6: an on set acting coach.
Speaker 7: Huhaim while there.
Speaker 3: So let me ask you a question. Did you do
Speaker 3: that job because you really wanted to be in front
Speaker 3: of the camera.
Speaker 2: It's kind of an easy way to get in.
Speaker 6: I think, like initially that was it. I was just
Speaker 6: happy to have a foot in the door. But I
Speaker 6: also that job was made me realize I wanted to.
Speaker 7: Do things behind the camera.
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, Yeah, because my son's girlfriend wants to work
Speaker 3: in front of the camera, but I'm trying to get
Speaker 3: her a job to work behind the camera first in
Speaker 3: a production company.
Speaker 2: Which it's hard. It's a hard gig too, for sure.
Speaker 6: That's why I was happy, like just being a production
Speaker 6: sits and I was like, I'll go get people's coffee, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I'm damn I want to be a production assistant.
Speaker 2: No you don't. You don't I do shit for anybody.
Speaker 3: You are so full you get to go get coffee
Speaker 3: and all kinds of fun stuff. I'm sure it really
Speaker 3: prepared you though, to go on to you know, working
Speaker 3: in Southern charm.
Speaker 7: I think it did. I mean, yeah, it's reality TV.
Speaker 7: But it's it's produced.
Speaker 6: It's yeah, it did give it gave me. It just
Speaker 6: gave me a little lesson on like set life.
Speaker 7: How highly edited.
Speaker 2: Do you think that your relationship with Austin was because
Speaker 2: when you came in, you were already in a relationship
Speaker 2: with him.
Speaker 7: Correct, we were just talking.
Speaker 6: We had been introduced when I was in the top
Speaker 6: being on the show, so.
Speaker 7: We weren't ever officially boyfriend and girlfriend with the show stuff.
Speaker 2: But had you made out.
Speaker 7: It was yeah, but it definitely was like encouraged.
Speaker 6: I mean they tell you, you know, like during casting,
Speaker 6: like any relationships you have with these people ahead of
Speaker 6: time is encouraged.
Speaker 7: But I you know, but.
Speaker 6: Like a lot that is and I say this all
Speaker 6: the time like a broken record, but like that is
Speaker 6: such a misconception. People thought I just dated him to
Speaker 6: like get on the show, and I was like, I
Speaker 6: take great pride in that I didn't have to date
Speaker 6: someone to get on the show.
Speaker 2: But even if you did, who cares. But also that
Speaker 2: every girl that is on Southern Charm, that's how it
Speaker 2: kind of it's portrayed to us like, oh, well they're
Speaker 2: brought it. Whether it was Catherine back in the day
Speaker 2: or whoever. It was like they came in because they're
Speaker 2: dating this person. But I think it's how authentic your
Speaker 2: relationships are on it, which is where we kind of
Speaker 2: follow along in the story. So my question is, you
Speaker 2: recently announced that you were leaving Southern charm. I was
Speaker 2: somebody who was not asked back on Beverly Hills. How
Speaker 2: did it make you feel fired too? Yeah, I.
Speaker 6: Mean I talked briefly about this, and I I mean
Speaker 6: I definitely didn't see it coming.
Speaker 7: I think I just thought, you know, the.
Speaker 6: Season before was a strong season, as miserable as it was,
Speaker 6: and so I definitely was thrown.
Speaker 7: Off by not being asked back.
Speaker 6: But the thing that like threw me most was the
Speaker 6: conversations I was having with the production company, not Brava,
Speaker 6: but the production company before, where it was like asking
Speaker 6: me like or say anything, like you know you don't
Speaker 6: live in Charleston, You're not doing this, like kind of
Speaker 6: making it like it was like something I did to.
Speaker 1: Not be.
Speaker 2: The old switch room. They're trying to make it sound
Speaker 2: like you'll.
Speaker 6: Don't another direction and like get a single girl who
Speaker 6: wants to like have fun, like sleep with a cast,
Speaker 6: like just say that.
Speaker 2: But don't try to make me bad.
Speaker 7: I didn't do Like, I just.
Speaker 6: Went through the worst thing in my life on camera
Speaker 6: and I showed up for work.
Speaker 7: I continue to do it.
Speaker 2: And you're talking about your brother in this moment, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: and you're can you give our listeners a little bit
Speaker 2: of history of what you're going through at the reunion
Speaker 2: for Southern Charm.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So during right in the middle of filming, my
Speaker 6: brother passed away, and I mean it was like right
Speaker 6: in the middle, and so all the dramas that.
Speaker 7: That was going on, Like I it was like I
Speaker 7: got a break. I got like a week to with
Speaker 7: my family and whatnot.
Speaker 6: And then it was like someone press play on production,
Speaker 6: like Okay, now we're back here, we're back. We got
Speaker 6: to talk about Taylor and Austin like we got and
Speaker 6: it was like my I mean I always say like
Speaker 6: and look back on that season, and I was I
Speaker 6: felt like I was sleep on, like I don't even
Speaker 6: remember it, Like I'm trying. I'm like with all this
Speaker 6: trauma and then I have to sit there and be
Speaker 6: mad at Austin, Like it was just a mess.
Speaker 2: It was a mess.
Speaker 3: Sometimes when something really bad happens to somebody, I feel
Speaker 3: like the network does make a decision to kind of
Speaker 3: let them go. Maybe it's a pause, maybe it's a break,
Speaker 3: anything that affects your mental health. I feel like nowadays,
Speaker 3: with everything that's going on within the network, they're like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I think maybe you need to take some time to yourself.
Speaker 7: And if that was the conversation that we had, like
Speaker 7: I could even wrap my head around that, because if
Speaker 7: there was a time I wanted to take to myself,
Speaker 7: it was probably when.
Speaker 6: It was all happening, right, That was when I was like,
Speaker 6: that's when I needed the break desperately. You know, I
Speaker 6: didn't even get to see my parents when all of
Speaker 6: this was happening because we were filming and so.
Speaker 2: But this also became a big topic of discussion on
Speaker 2: Real Housewives of New York because one of the housewives,
Speaker 2: I think it was her grandmother passed away and she said,
Speaker 2: you know, I never had the option to see her
Speaker 2: during those last couple you know, hard days or whatever
Speaker 2: it may have been, and production and everybody else was like,
Speaker 2: you actually have the chance to leave and go whenever
Speaker 2: you want. So I that has always been kind of
Speaker 2: a back and forth when we when we hear that,
Speaker 2: but I do think there is a certain amount of
Speaker 2: pressure that's put on you if you're filming a show,
Speaker 2: you're going to show up and you're going to do
Speaker 2: the best at your job. Yeah, that is how it was.
Speaker 6: And don't get me wrong, like production, like our showrunner,
Speaker 6: everyone in the world was incredibly respectful and throughout the
Speaker 6: whole process. But it was, yeah, it was like commitment, like.
Speaker 7: I committed this. I remember having a conversation.
Speaker 3: With my dad where you felt the pressure. Is that
Speaker 3: what you're trying to say?
Speaker 2: You felt the pressure to.
Speaker 6: Not because it was like they were putting on me.
Speaker 6: But it's just like, this is a job. I signed
Speaker 6: up for it, We're here, We're doing it. And also
Speaker 6: like I didn't want them to film and talk about
Speaker 6: what was happening with me not there if that was.
Speaker 3: Ever even like a possibility, like if they talked about
Speaker 3: that is a possibility, actually.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like I wouldn't at all, But so but showing
Speaker 6: up for it and it was fine and like we
Speaker 6: got through the season, but it just was so frustrating
Speaker 6: because I felt like during filming, like no one was
Speaker 6: like really remembering what was happening, Like Austin and Taylor and.
Speaker 7: I were like screaming at each other in Jamaica, like
Speaker 7: having these huge.
Speaker 3: Fights, and I was so you don't feel like they
Speaker 3: gave you much grace for what you were going through.
Speaker 2: No, not at all did any.
Speaker 3: Of your castmates reach out to when they found out
Speaker 3: about you leaving the show.
Speaker 6: Just the ones that I'm like close with, which would
Speaker 6: be Leva and Benita, and then like Craig and Shep.
Speaker 2: You know, Teddy used to date Shep. I did not
Speaker 2: used to date Shep.
Speaker 7: Why are you hearing this?
Speaker 2: Never for the record, like I grew up together. He
Speaker 2: went away to boarding school in like the eighth grade
Speaker 2: or whatever. But Shep. The part that was the craziest
Speaker 2: to me was when Shep became on, you know, came
Speaker 2: on Southern Charm and he was like this casanova. I'm like,
Speaker 2: what like Shep growing up? I mean, he wasn't like
Speaker 2: that when he was in school, Like he had that
Speaker 2: crush on Jenny Sanfield for like a million years. Like
Speaker 2: we like he was not the guy that was like
Speaker 2: dating all the chicks like he was.
Speaker 3: I think we were cesty to find out where Jenny
Speaker 3: is so she can be a castle.
Speaker 2: No, she's still one of my best friends. But like
Speaker 2: we Shep was the guy we would go to to
Speaker 2: like tell him our like our sadness or whatever. Like
Speaker 2: he was the friend of all the girls, but he
Speaker 2: was not the guy that we all hooked up with.
Speaker 2: But really what was he.
Speaker 7: Like good at talking about emotions?
Speaker 2: No, but he was just he was more And I
Speaker 2: mean he still is this way to this day, like
Speaker 2: with me, like he will always like he immediately goes
Speaker 2: back to how we were in like sixth grade, Like
Speaker 2: he'll be like, Pedro, how's it going, Remember when this happened?
Speaker 2: And the like he has such an incredible memory for
Speaker 2: weird shit that like I don't even remember. And like
Speaker 2: he had a really good family and we always went
Speaker 2: to his house and he was they were a provider
Speaker 2: of so much entertainment for our life. But like he
Speaker 2: wasn't this bad boy when we were younger. Wait what
Speaker 2: state were you in? South Carolina? And like I know
Speaker 2: his older sister, I know his younger brother, Like I
Speaker 2: know what I know all of that. Maybe you should
Speaker 2: be cast on the show. I'm not moving to Charleston
Speaker 2: as a forty three year old mother of four to
Speaker 2: do what, Like I mean Olivia already hooked up with Travis.
Speaker 2: What am I gonna do?
Speaker 7: Who's Travis?
Speaker 2: What is his name? Is it not Travis?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 2: What's Catherine's ex's name? Oh, Tomas, Thomas, you did not
Speaker 2: bag service.
Speaker 7: I don't know what's happening. I gotta I gotta go, Olivia.
Speaker 2: Did you really tell me you were drunk? Tell me
Speaker 2: you were drunk? Okay, now past and that I was
Speaker 2: a good thought.
Speaker 7: I really thought that was gonna be one I could
Speaker 7: take to the grave with me.
Speaker 2: I did not think that I was ever gonna I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I'm willing to take a lot of things to the grave.
Speaker 2: But like, what made you want to make out with
Speaker 2: him in the first place?
Speaker 7: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Alcohol. Blame it on that.
Speaker 7: I'll say this.
Speaker 6: I like I like older dudes, like I think, not
Speaker 6: older like Grandpa, but like I like more like like
Speaker 6: a dilf, I like adult, not saying that.
Speaker 2: Do you like man boobs? No? Do you like dad
Speaker 2: bod Man?
Speaker 6: Wants man boots like a soft one, not like like granddad.
Speaker 2: Bod Okay, how old is your boyfriend?
Speaker 7: He's tears older than me.
Speaker 2: We're not moving on from Thomas yet I invested because
Speaker 2: I think she's no, she may be moving on, but
Speaker 2: I'm not done because I have to remember that Olivia
Speaker 2: and Catherine were close, right, right, So did you not
Speaker 2: see the red flags with Catherine and him? And you
Speaker 2: were like, you know what, maybe I could change him
Speaker 2: or what was there that moment?
Speaker 7: First of all, I'll hook up.
Speaker 6: I'm not thinking about the next week or anything like that.
Speaker 6: I didn't know Catherine when that happened.
Speaker 7: For the record, I know that was like translated a
Speaker 7: little differently at reunion that Catherine and I were friends.
Speaker 3: That happened.
Speaker 7: I didn't know. I'd never even met Catherine.
Speaker 2: But you're currently friends with her, right.
Speaker 7: And Catherine knows the old spiel. Yeah, all the things.
Speaker 7: But no, but I wasn't trying. I was looking up
Speaker 7: with him out of like why it took him? Y'all?
Speaker 2: You were you were just attracted to him.
Speaker 7: I was just drunk.
Speaker 2: Great, let's talk about because how old is he.
Speaker 7: To be my father?
Speaker 2: Like twice well that I'm not gonna let it go
Speaker 2: because Thomas Ravenel, like I grew up with the Ravenels
Speaker 2: as like part of this whole thing. Like I mean,
Speaker 2: we were all debutantes. We all did all this shit.
Speaker 2: We like the.
Speaker 7: Richardson Carolina Carolina.
Speaker 6: Yes.
Speaker 2: So like when they show these girls wanting to hook
Speaker 2: up with Tom granted I called him Travis, but Thomas,
Speaker 2: it is so bananas to me because I was like
Speaker 2: a kid looking at this family and I was like,
Speaker 2: what a shit show?
Speaker 3: So he comes from like a big family. Is that
Speaker 3: what you're saying, like a very.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, like they had. There's a difference in California
Speaker 2: and Olivia. Correct me if I'm wrong. California is very
Speaker 2: new money. It's like you wear your like Louis vuittons
Speaker 2: that have new colors on it, and it's like everybody's
Speaker 2: showing and showing what they've got. In the South, nobody
Speaker 2: shows what they've got.
Speaker 7: It's also not proper etiquette. It's like yeah in the South.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. So it's like all of the wives of
Speaker 2: like the hottest men are like, I know, this is
Speaker 2: like a TikTok trend, but they're very demure, very modest,
Speaker 2: like this is what we create and blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: And these were kind of the men that all were
Speaker 2: womanizers like as I was growing up, and they kind
Speaker 2: of like Thomas. Yes, like Thomas, but there that's every
Speaker 2: dad that I ever knew.
Speaker 3: Where's Thomas nowadays? He's no longer on the show.
Speaker 7: Right, No, I believe he's an aChn Georgia.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: And so how Catheryn and your friends with Catherine? How
Speaker 3: is she doing now? She's gone through a lot.
Speaker 7: Catherine's good. Yeah, she we were Actually I was like
Speaker 7: throwing some like behind the scenes stuff for this websites.
Speaker 6: I'm working on with her, and she just she just
Speaker 6: has such like a fun, goofy side and she is
Speaker 6: really like and it's just a or that you don't
Speaker 6: see that side of her. And she doesn't press her
Speaker 6: interviews or anything like that, so like you really do
Speaker 6: just see like the headlines and whatnot.
Speaker 7: You don't ever get to see the personal side of her.
Speaker 2: And I always felt bad for her.
Speaker 3: My heart broke for her with her kids, situation with
Speaker 3: the custody and all that stuff was just very heartbreak.
Speaker 6: I just I can't even imagine having cameras in my
Speaker 6: face at the age that she did, like like nineteen twenty,
Speaker 6: Like I can't imagine the reality show in my early twenties,
Speaker 6: like and then on top of what was going on
Speaker 6: in her personal life, So I just think, yeah, there, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, I but do you consider her like a true friend?
Speaker 2: You trust her? You would you spend time with her
Speaker 2: outside of filming? And that's somebody that Okay, yeah.
Speaker 7: That's it.
Speaker 6: And that's one thing like she said too when she
Speaker 6: was off charm like, you really see who your true
Speaker 6: friends are.
Speaker 7: Who talks to you after that. So I'm sure y'all
Speaker 7: can relate to like and I think that could not
Speaker 7: be more true.
Speaker 2: Do you think that you would ever go back to
Speaker 2: the sh if you were asked?
Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely. I enjoyed the whole process. I really did.
Speaker 7: And like I said, I was bummed not to be
Speaker 7: asked back.
Speaker 2: But are you still upset about it? Because it took me?
Speaker 3: Uh, it took me quite a while too. I got
Speaker 3: asked back eventually, but it took me a while.
Speaker 2: Oh that a humble brag. You know who hasn't been
Speaker 2: asked back?
Speaker 6: Yeah, well yeah, you didn't ask y'all there, Like, how
Speaker 6: did y'all handle?
Speaker 7: Like? How was it for y'all?
Speaker 2: For me?
Speaker 3: I was on for twelve years straight, so it was
Speaker 3: kind of you know, my kids grew up.
Speaker 2: My daughter had said to me, mom, I don't.
Speaker 3: Even know you other than a housewife, like you've always
Speaker 3: been on TV. And it was like I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I go, I've been nothing now. You know, you definitely
Speaker 3: go through emotions, but then you get to the other
Speaker 3: side and you're like, hey, life isn't that bad on
Speaker 3: the other side.
Speaker 2: For me, it was different. Like Tamar had so many years,
Speaker 2: I was only on you know, three and a half
Speaker 2: years or whatever it was, And for me it was
Speaker 2: just about And I think this is a very Southern
Speaker 2: mentality of a way of thinking, Like when I didn't
Speaker 2: get asked BacT, I kept thinking I'm not good enough?
Speaker 2: Like why am I not good?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think like a natural response though, why am I
Speaker 2: not special enough? Why am I not whatever? And I
Speaker 2: could have chosen many different paths at that point. I
Speaker 2: could have decided to completely go away, but like at
Speaker 2: that point I decided to fight and work hard and
Speaker 2: create a business and a life and like now me
Speaker 2: and Tamor have this huge podcast together and realized that
Speaker 2: like it really has nothing to do with not being enough,
Speaker 2: Like maybe at that time in my life, I wasn't
Speaker 2: enough for what they needed. Yeah, And like I and
Speaker 2: also but just feeling those emotions and going not enough
Speaker 2: for like a person in general, but like I wasn't
Speaker 2: willing to give enough. And I think that's where I
Speaker 2: found a lot of peace is knowing like I'm gonna
Speaker 2: work really hard. I think if you put me in
Speaker 2: a line of people, I will work harder than you know,
Speaker 2: ninety five percent of them. But also no, like it's okay,
Speaker 2: it's okay for not everyone.
Speaker 3: For me, I just had to keep telling myself, like,
Speaker 3: don't be don't be upset that it's over. Be happy
Speaker 3: that it happened.
Speaker 2: You know that you had that chance.
Speaker 3: And for me, twelve years is a very long time
Speaker 3: to be on TV and to be on you know, Bravo,
Speaker 3: this platform and all the excitement that goes along with it.
Speaker 3: But you know, you there's a part that you miss it.
Speaker 3: It feels like you've been kicked out of the cool
Speaker 3: girls club, like you know, you're in back in high
Speaker 3: school and they're like, we don't you can't sit with
Speaker 3: us anymore.
Speaker 7: You can't sit with us kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because nobody, honestly, nobody reached out to me. No
Speaker 2: only nobody, no one in my d and I had
Speaker 2: complete opposite, like all of the girls from over Hells
Speaker 2: stood by me and they were like, no, we want her,
Speaker 2: we love her, She's our person. So it's like it
Speaker 2: really that helped the blow for me. But people with
Speaker 2: Tamar were very jealous.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but for me, like it was just like Andy
Speaker 3: Cohen reached out to me, Alex Baskin reached out to me.
Speaker 2: She did for a few weeks after.
Speaker 3: I got fired, and then after she started filming, she
Speaker 3: just threw me to the side.
Speaker 2: Well we got to bring it back to Olivia now, yeah, okay, yes,
Speaker 2: we got to bring it back. Do you think all right?
Speaker 2: First off, its ship sober?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 2: Is that what we're dealing with?
Speaker 7: You know what I mean? I don't know.
Speaker 6: I haven't been obviously in like around filming. I'm not
Speaker 6: sure I think everyone's going to see that. But like
Speaker 6: every time I talked to him, he's he's good like
Speaker 6: and you know, I've seen him out a few times
Speaker 6: and I have not seen the like drunken, crazy shit,
Speaker 6: So I think I'm sure that you.
Speaker 2: Hell, wait, how long ago did you get let go?
Speaker 6: So they started it was February, because they started filming February,
Speaker 6: and I.
Speaker 2: Got okay, so was this year. Yeah, what do we
Speaker 2: think they're gonna start showing us January?
Speaker 7: I don't know, y'all, I'm so out of the loop.
Speaker 6: But if I had a guess, like just thinking about
Speaker 6: the timing of it, December January makes sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where do you stand with Austin now? And like,
Speaker 2: was there a point where you really thought Austin was
Speaker 2: going to be your person? I don't.
Speaker 6: I think I just like it started so quick with
Speaker 6: him and he and I I did. I don't think so,
Speaker 6: because like nobody in my life felt that way, and
Speaker 6: it showed like everyone in my life is very much
Speaker 6: like kayleba is having fun with Austin, like we'll let
Speaker 6: them do that, and so it just I could tell
Speaker 6: it like people around me weren't rooting for their relationship.
Speaker 6: But I think it was just comfortable, especially coming into
Speaker 6: a very intimidating environment like reality TV, like having someone
Speaker 6: who's been doing it a while kind of taking under
Speaker 6: his wing, and then on top of it, like we
Speaker 6: did have chemistry. But I don't think I thought like
Speaker 6: long term he was it. I just it was fun
Speaker 6: and I enjoyed it for the time being.
Speaker 2: Was the Kristen Cavalieri drama with all that stuff that
Speaker 2: happened with Madison on Instagram and all that were you
Speaker 2: that or no?
Speaker 7: No, that was all that was all before me.
Speaker 2: That was all before you. Can we talk about Craig
Speaker 2: and Paige, I know that. Do you think that they'll
Speaker 2: get married?
Speaker 6: Okay, she's won that like reach out. I do I
Speaker 6: think they'll get married. I think, like they talk about
Speaker 6: on the show, there's some stuff they have to figure out,
Speaker 6: like geographically, but just maybe like brought like once you're
Speaker 6: in a relationship, especially like in the Bravo world, like
Speaker 6: everything's just kind of pressured, like okay, moving living like
Speaker 6: they're set up now seems so legit. Like she's got
Speaker 6: her stick place in New York, he's got Charleston. It
Speaker 6: easy flight, Like I hate that they're getting so much
Speaker 6: pressure to like.
Speaker 2: And they can film at each other's places. But I
Speaker 2: think where we all have to be somewhat cognizant of
Speaker 2: reality is like at some point relationships do take work. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it's not just going to be the fluff of
Speaker 2: being on a show and being able to like have
Speaker 2: quippie comments back and forth, but like you do have
Speaker 2: to make those decisions, like am I.
Speaker 3: That'll be a make it or break up for them,
Speaker 3: like when they do eventually move in, like if he
Speaker 3: moves to New York or she moves too.
Speaker 2: True, but can we rate on a scale of most
Speaker 2: charming to least charming? Shep, Craig and Austin.
Speaker 7: Dang, I want to say.
Speaker 6: Craig, I don't know Craig and Shepherd about the same
Speaker 6: for charming?
Speaker 2: Have you made out with Have you made out with
Speaker 2: Shep and Craig?
Speaker 7: No, I'm not. It was just and Travis.
Speaker 2: Okay, fine, fine, fine, right.
Speaker 7: Travis, we're all changing to Rat saying to Travis, by
Speaker 7: the way.
Speaker 2: I know that that that's it's it's his new name. Travis.
Speaker 3: Has Page done a crossover like like Craig is done
Speaker 3: on her show.
Speaker 7: Yeah, she's been on Charm a good bit.
Speaker 2: Which O G. Do you think should leave the show first,
Speaker 2: Craig or.
Speaker 7: Oh damn oh damn uh?
Speaker 2: Like who do you think makes the show?
Speaker 6: That's just hard. I think Craig makes. I think I
Speaker 6: love because he's and as you know, like what you
Speaker 6: see is what.
Speaker 7: You get, and I love that about him.
Speaker 6: Not saying that Craig is no, but I just think
Speaker 6: that's more entertaining to watch someone be who they are unapologetically, and.
Speaker 7: I think that is so Shep.
Speaker 6: And I think if Craig's obviously going into the realm
Speaker 6: of settling down, then maybe.
Speaker 2: Even Craig so so so Craig should leave first, is
Speaker 2: what you're saying. Yeah, I guess, yeah, okay.
Speaker 7: You people are going to disagree with me on that.
Speaker 2: Well, Lev's spin off show, Southern Hospitality, takes place at Republic.
Speaker 2: Do you ever go there? Is it a fun vibe?
Speaker 2: Do we care?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Republic's always been the hot spot in Charleston. You know,
Speaker 7: you know, Charleston's small.
Speaker 6: We don't really have like a hot club scene or
Speaker 6: anything like that. Say Republicans as close as you're gonna get,
Speaker 6: so it's always a good time.
Speaker 7: I don't go. I'll go to like Leve's birthday when.
Speaker 6: They're like filming that, but I don't really go for
Speaker 6: any of like the other filming of it.
Speaker 7: But I mean, Republic's a good place.
Speaker 6: If anything scandalous is going to happen in Charleston, it's
Speaker 6: most likely going to go down to Republic's.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about your future, what is next for you?
Speaker 6: So right now I'm working on it's a like a
Speaker 6: web series. I've partnered with a really great production company
Speaker 6: here in Charleston, Caused Films, and they I actually got
Speaker 6: the idea when I was on Southern Charm because you
Speaker 6: can relate to this. There's so many behind the scene
Speaker 6: moments or just just things that weren't ever aired, like
Speaker 6: really fun things that were captured funny way, yeah, all
Speaker 6: of it that you would never see aired. And I
Speaker 6: remember being on Charma like someone just needs to have
Speaker 6: like a b roll camera going for this whole process.
Speaker 7: Obviously that wouldn't be appreciate allowed contract.
Speaker 6: So now I'm not with them, I kind of want
Speaker 6: to like still keep that momentum going with this web
Speaker 6: series and like interacting with other Bravo.
Speaker 7: People or like going and interview them or just showing like.
Speaker 6: Different things I'm getting to do different opportunities I've had
Speaker 6: where it's like meeting people like y'all, like today we
Speaker 6: filmed me setting up for this and like us watching
Speaker 6: y'all's other podcast episodes and kind of like doing the
Speaker 6: research and like showing that just behind.
Speaker 7: The scene b roll stuff. And so that's kind of
Speaker 7: what this web series is that I'm excited about.
Speaker 2: And what's it called.
Speaker 6: We are calling it off season, but I'm very indecisive.
Speaker 6: I keep going back and forth, but I think it's
Speaker 6: going to be off season.
Speaker 2: Listen, never be indecisive about anything. Like you you trust
Speaker 2: your gut and you go immediately for it. Like the
Speaker 2: second that we heard Twats were like us, that's us
Speaker 2: where we are Twats, We are Twaddy, we are assholes.
Speaker 2: Like so if there's a second of you that thinks
Speaker 2: that this isn't right for you, pick a different name.
Speaker 2: But if you think that this is where people are
Speaker 2: going to find you, do it.
Speaker 6: It's so far it's off season because that captures the
Speaker 6: whole concept of what it is. Like my dream is
Speaker 6: to have like athletes get to interview them and like
Speaker 6: show their life on.
Speaker 7: The off season. So that's kind of like where that
Speaker 7: the name came from.
Speaker 2: I think it's a great name. I love it, Thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you, keep it.
Speaker 6: But I just want to ask you, like I get
Speaker 6: imposters syndrome, like now that I don't have the show
Speaker 6: to be like, yeah, on the show is what I do.
Speaker 6: So now and I'll talking to Naomi. She was on
Speaker 6: the show before and she was saying the thing she
Speaker 6: was with Craig before, Right, yes, that was, but she
Speaker 6: was saying, like we both were saying that, it's like
Speaker 6: when you don't have the show to kind of fall
Speaker 6: back on, it's like that's your platform of being. It's
Speaker 6: like on social media and stuff, you go like a sense.
Speaker 8: Of yeah, imposters to where I'm like, well now I
Speaker 8: feel like I'm just putting stuff out there to stay real,
Speaker 8: or like me chatting shit on Madison just now, like
Speaker 8: I'm not saying any things to just stay out there.
Speaker 3: And like, all right, well you were asked questions. And
Speaker 3: that's the thing that I struggled with after I was fired,
Speaker 3: is no matter what I said or did or whatever
Speaker 3: podcast went on, every you know, the trolls on Instagram
Speaker 3: are like, oh, you're just trying to say relevant, right,
Speaker 3: Like yeah, but don't don't listen to that. You have,
Speaker 3: you had a platform, a big platform. You're going to
Speaker 3: keep the momentum going.
Speaker 2: Like even if somebody's like I was on twenty five
Speaker 2: years and you're like, I'm on I was on two years.
Speaker 2: You know what you were on and that's more than
Speaker 2: most people can say about their life.
Speaker 3: And it's what you do with that platform like and credible,
Speaker 3: create something and create something interesting, and create something exciting
Speaker 3: and give us something that we don't have on our own.
Speaker 2: And if you'd create that, like with me and Tam
Speaker 2: in this pod, like we had both just been fired
Speaker 2: and we're like, all right, we're just gonna talk shit
Speaker 2: and we're going to share our opinions. And we got
Speaker 2: a lot of hell for it, and we still do.
Speaker 2: But it's like we are giving a different you know,
Speaker 2: thought process to that process.
Speaker 6: You have the control of your own narratives, like you're.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and then also remember your importance and just
Speaker 2: because you were fired from a job doesn't mean that
Speaker 2: you're not going to get another one. So go out
Speaker 2: and create as much shit as you might be on
Speaker 2: House Villains or Traders or something you just don't know,
Speaker 2: you do not know, just stop dating Travis Slash Thomas.
Speaker 7: Drunken hook up. My god, I would take it back
Speaker 7: in a heartbat.
Speaker 2: If I we appreciate you. Where do our fans find
Speaker 2: you so that they can see what you're up.
Speaker 7: To right now?
Speaker 6: It's just the Instagram TikTok Olivia B Flowers and hopefully
Speaker 6: we'll be launching the off season here in the fall,
Speaker 6: and I'll follow up with that once that gets going.
Speaker 6: But thank you all so much for having me. I
Speaker 6: really really was looking forward to talking to you all.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, Bye bye.