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Speaker 1: I listen to The Black Guy Who Tips podcast because

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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen. Hey, welcome to another episode of The

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Speaker 1: Black Guy to his podcast. I am your host, Rod,

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Speaker 1: and I'm joined by my co host Karen. And Okay,

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Speaker 1: she sounded a little unsure of who she was there.

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Speaker 2: I am Karen, y'all. I'm sorry, Okay, I was fumbling

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Speaker 2: back here. I'm good.

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Speaker 1: All right, Karen is here. And if you looked in

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Speaker 1: the show notes or possibly the title, or if you're

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Speaker 1: just live in the chat room and you have your

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Speaker 1: camera on or you have your video on. We are

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Speaker 1: joined by a guest friend of the show, friend of

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Speaker 1: real life, Mike Kapling. What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Man, Hey, thanks for having me. Happy to be back.

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Speaker 4: Hey, I'm glad you're back. And I'm very very jealous

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Speaker 4: of Roger. Roger has got to meet you twice.

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Speaker 2: I haven't met you, so that is on my list

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Speaker 2: things to do.

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Speaker 5: It'll happen. I'm I mean it really, it's surprising. I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 5: that's right. I mean we I feel like we're so

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Speaker 5: close here, We're like just inches away, our faces on

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Speaker 5: the screen, But somehow I understand that it's not the same.

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Speaker 1: I have to I have to arrange to have Mike

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Speaker 1: as a surprise guest of one of our lunches. Karen

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Speaker 1: I was like, I like having him as a secret

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Speaker 2: I'm okay with that.

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Speaker 1: Mike. How have you been, man? I feel like it's

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Speaker 1: been a little while since we talked to you. I

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Speaker 1: think you got like a haircut since, you know, the

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Speaker 1: last time you were on our show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's about it.

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Speaker 5: I think it's just the length of hair, nothing else.

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Speaker 5: Doing everything else the same. One major facet of life

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Speaker 5: change that is happening is, Uh, I've been living in

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Speaker 5: this particular building in Brooklyn for the past eight years,

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Speaker 5: and my girlfriend has been living here for the past

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Speaker 5: six years. And we just found out in the past

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Speaker 5: month that neither of us can keep doing that beyond

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Speaker 5: next month. So at the end of next month we must.

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Speaker 5: Apparently the building has a boiler system from before there

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Speaker 5: were boilers or systems they have. They have to they're

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Speaker 5: not up to code, so they have to switch to

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Speaker 5: electric from gas, and that's going to the landlord says

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Speaker 5: and he's he's a nice man, a nice a nice

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Speaker 5: seems like he doesn't want to do this. A lot

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Speaker 5: of times we've been telling people that we have to

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Speaker 5: for a year, and they're like, I just wants to

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Speaker 5: get you out to just jack up the rent and

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Speaker 5: do and who knows.

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Speaker 5: I don't think so, because I mean, part of his

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Speaker 5: secret evil plan is to not be able to rent

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Speaker 5: to anyone in the building for a year. I was like, ah,

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Speaker 5: So the good news, and he gave us one month

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Speaker 5: certain things that a landlord doesn't have to tell you.

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Speaker 5: He's not an undercover landlord. Maybe I'm the undercover landlord

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Speaker 5: that I don't even know myself. But the point is

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Speaker 5: And it's weird and I've never done that. But we're

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Speaker 3: Like, can we live here now? Please?

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Speaker 5: And we have some friends and family members who are

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Speaker 5: how before the Big Bang, everything was just in one

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Speaker 5: it's pretty banging, you know, big banging. Don't come and banging,

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Speaker 5: but yeah, we've got We've been putting. I've been putting

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Speaker 5: so yeah, that's that's what's happening. That's that's one thing.

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Speaker 1: Everything that's a big that's a big thing, man, man,

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Speaker 1: I think one. Moving is one of the most stressful

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Speaker 1: like digital nomad, but you're not upset with your nice

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Speaker 1: digital nomad. You're not mad, you're too happy to have

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Speaker 5: That's I really appreciate that I did once. I was like,

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Speaker 5: and that's called an air mattress something like that. But

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Speaker 5: also you just I am I've called myself not a

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Speaker 5: But you know, I do think you just reminded me

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Speaker 1: I think CC Peniston made a song called keep on Moving,

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Speaker 1: People are moving around, people are having roommates. The fact

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Speaker 3: You're right, you know, you know.

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Speaker 5: They always say you you don't know what you've got

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Speaker 5: and it's not even gone yet. You don't know what

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Speaker 5: it's gone. I can really appreciate it, even though it's

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Speaker 5: I we both my girlfriend. I have many books, hundreds

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Speaker 5: Like some of them are books that I haven't read yet.

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Speaker 3: But I'm just like I collect.

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Speaker 3: Or free, or being like, oh, I want to read this.

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Speaker 5: And I'm really like sort of drilling down on like

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Speaker 5: Given that there's not that at least in this incarnation,

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Speaker 5: like a man of principle of he's.

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Speaker 1: A loyal man.

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Speaker 5: He's like, he believes on Wednesday the same thing he

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Speaker 5: that's a really valuable thing to remember because, like I'm

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Speaker 5: Like could I some of them get it out of

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Speaker 5: the library? Absolutely, some of them. I'm like, really being

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Speaker 1: That just this one, like and now that you're physically

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Speaker 1: Like I wish I had that kind of faith in

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean especially now right now we live

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Speaker 4: to have to publicly apologize, which is why they settle,

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Speaker 4: because I think if they didn't be like, nah, I

436
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Speaker 4: ain't selling, they were like, Okay, fuck you, We're gonna

437
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 4: go for the whole bill.

438
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Speaker 2: You know, we're gonna make you pay.

439
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 4: Because the thing is you was big and bad and

440
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Speaker 4: bold and went out.

441
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 2: And shattered it in public.

442
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:20,199
Speaker 4: So guess what apologized with that same energy, Like we

443
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 4: told y'all that there was nothing wrong with our systems,

444
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 4: but y'all was y'all was like, yes it is, y'all

445
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:28,400
Speaker 4: make a shit up.

446
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Speaker 2: So if I was them, oh, you show put like this,

447
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 2: I'm old school.

448
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Speaker 4: You show your ass in public, you apologize in public, right, Mike, what.

449
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Speaker 3: Do you think?

450
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Speaker 1: Uh?

451
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm I agree that if you show your ass

452
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Speaker 5: in public, you apologize in public.

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Speaker 3: I mean I'm glad that.

454
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Speaker 5: Like often what happens is, you know when like during

455
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Speaker 5: a you know, presidential election like cycle, when there's like

456
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Speaker 5: all kinds of lies being told like you know, on

457
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Speaker 5: like the debate stages, right, and then you'll see like

458
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Speaker 5: they'll be headlines of people get to see the thing

459
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Speaker 5: that is said that isn't true, but then like the

460
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Speaker 5: retraction is often like you know, the next day in

461
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Speaker 5: print instead.

462
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Speaker 3: Of on TV.

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Speaker 5: Uh, and it's on page you know seven, and like

464
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Speaker 5: hardly any people only get to hear.

465
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Speaker 3: Like the loud headline.

466
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Speaker 5: So I think it would be I think it would

467
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Speaker 5: be fair and balanced as Fox News, I understand, is

468
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Speaker 5: like for them to have do like like you said,

469
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Speaker 5: like have on their show just as loud and just

470
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Speaker 5: as like as much airtime as they dedicated to the lies.

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Speaker 3: Like I'd say, double to the truth.

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Speaker 5: Because like as you have to do enough to undo

473
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Speaker 5: it and then and then the real story, so be

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Speaker 5: like un so lie, unlie, truth is what I would say.

475
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Speaker 5: And uh but yeah, I mean I don't even understand

476
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Speaker 5: like these these numbers. It is like, you know, almost

477
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Speaker 5: eight hundred million dollars, which sounds like a lot. I

478
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Speaker 5: think they wanted you know, one and a half billion

479
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Speaker 5: or so.

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Speaker 3: And so it seems like it's you know, just a

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Speaker 3: gam They're like, uh, you know, probably, I.

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Speaker 5: Mean, who among us wouldn't in the face of having

483
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Speaker 5: to pay one and a half billion if we could

484
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Speaker 5: escape with a guaranteed only half of that be like, oh, well,

485
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Speaker 5: we got off easy.

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Speaker 1: It's also weird because you know that there's conversations taking

487
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Speaker 1: place before they even go to trial. There's and and

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Speaker 1: you know, dominion. I'm sure was willing to take like

489
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Speaker 1: some money in an apology early. Yes, but it feels

490
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Speaker 1: like this is just the I don't know, it's like

491
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Speaker 1: a TV lawyer thing or what, but it feels like

492
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Speaker 1: this is the way it goes, and you can just

493
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Speaker 1: go no, I don't think so, I'll just take it

494
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Speaker 1: to trial. Impossible, no way. And then as soon as

495
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Speaker 1: you get into trial, it's like, all right, guys, it's

496
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Speaker 1: time to settle a right. I don't know what I

497
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Speaker 1: was thinking. Me it was like me who bought the

498
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Speaker 1: book a month ago? Is how Fox News must have

499
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Speaker 1: felt about this case.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

501
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Speaker 3: I have a new idea specific Glee.

502
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Speaker 5: That somebody in the chat said, say it every m

503
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Speaker 5: F show. I like that MF is abbreviated, but bitch

504
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Speaker 5: is not, and I say it every motherfucking show. B

505
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Speaker 5: I think it should be like the way that warnings

506
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Speaker 5: are on cigarettes. You know that there's like a little

507
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Speaker 5: skull and crossbones and be like, look, what out of

508
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Speaker 5: three chance this might lead to lung cancer?

509
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Speaker 3: So just just maybe a.

510
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Speaker 5: Chiron or like a little thing in the lower left

511
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Speaker 5: hand corner of Fox News would be like, you know,

512
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Speaker 5: may or may not contain the truth, just like all the.

513
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Speaker 3: Time breaking news, we were lying and breaking news. We've

514
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Speaker 3: been breaking news.

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Speaker 1: Broken news. Yeah, so I think that's a good thing.

516
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Speaker 1: They put out a statement Fox News, this settlement reflects

517
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Speaker 1: Fox's continued commitment to the highest journalistic standards. We are

518
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Speaker 1: hopeful that our decision to resolve this dispute with dominic

519
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Speaker 1: with dominion uh amicably instead of the acrimony of a

520
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: divisive trial, allows the country to move forward from these issues.

521
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, I'm not I was not not

522
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Speaker 1: moving forward, you know what I mean, Like I wasn't

523
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Speaker 1: waiting on the conclusion of this trial and.

524
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Speaker 4: You and you know what, it's been a running joke

525
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 4: all week. But who wrote I think.

526
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Speaker 1: Chat GPT wrote this that apologize.

527
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Speaker 4: Right, because it's like who is we? Who is we

528
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 4: just need to move on past this moment.

529
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Speaker 5: I mean, like the very thing that you just said that.

530
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Speaker 5: They said, like that this is our continuing you know, uh, commitment.

531
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Speaker 3: To to the croup. Like, well, it's definitely not a continuing.

532
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 3: There was some sort of breakdown at one point.

533
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Speaker 5: There had to be like, yeah, we've been telling the

534
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Speaker 5: truth the whole time, including now our apology for not

535
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 5: telling the truth, or we're paying these people that we

536
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 5: lied about like it, but look, we're we came clean

537
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 5: because you made us.

538
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Speaker 3: It's literally some credits.

539
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Speaker 1: It's literally impossible for them to be here if they

540
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Speaker 1: were committed to telling the truth all the time. That's hilarious. Uh.

541
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Speaker 1: In other news, Uh, there are people apparently who go

542
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Speaker 1: to visit Aschwitz, which is of course a concentration camp

543
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Speaker 1: from the Holocaust, Andchwitz had to put out a reminder

544
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Speaker 1: to people to say stop posing for pictures like influencers

545
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Speaker 1: at yes.

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Speaker 4: And and and it's it's and it's one of the

547
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Speaker 4: things that really really frustrates me because they do this

548
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Speaker 4: on plantations too, and you're like, hey, don't do it,

549
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Speaker 4: Like why are y'all having weddings.

550
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Speaker 1: They'll they'll have weddings. I think, first of all, plantation

551
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: weddings are super whack. But there's almost a built in

552
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Speaker 1: excuse to be smiling. If you're the kind of a

553
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Speaker 1: person that had a wedding at a plantation, gonna be

554
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Speaker 1: smiling in the pictures. This is there's only one reason

555
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: people visit Oschwitz, right, Like there's not even like a

556
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Speaker 1: mixed message of like, well, some people think it's like

557
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Speaker 1: a good time. No, it's it's not a good time

558
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: for anybody. And so yeah, they show people that're walking

559
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Speaker 1: the the tracks and posing a't taking pictures walking the tracks.

560
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Speaker 2: And they think this shit is fucking cool like this,

561
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 2: like did they.

562
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Speaker 1: Not go inside? How do they know not to do this?

563
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Speaker 4: Cause people are dumb and everybody thinks that everything they

564
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Speaker 4: do is a social medior moment.

565
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Speaker 2: Versus actually just taking in the environment.

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Speaker 4: And like we live in society now where my personal

567
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Speaker 4: experience like this, it would be a personal experience for me,

568
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Speaker 4: you know, for something like this, but for a lot

569
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Speaker 4: of people, they want to you know, kind of show

570
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Speaker 4: the outside, which I'm pretty sure they don't mind. But

571
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Speaker 4: they was like, just take pictures, don't be posing like

572
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Speaker 4: you're taking a family reunion.

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Speaker 1: When you come to the Oshwaz Museum, remember you are

574
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Speaker 1: at a site where over one million people were killed,

575
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Speaker 1: respect their memory. There are better places to learn how

576
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Speaker 1: to walk on a ballast being than the site which

577
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Speaker 1: symbolizes deportation of hundreds of thousands to their deaths.

578
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Speaker 2: Right.

579
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: So, oh man, that's that is hilarious.

580
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Speaker 5: That's the official Auschwitz account. Yes, Like, who's really like that?

581
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Speaker 3: That's so funny.

582
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Speaker 5: That reminds me of I don't know the name of

583
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Speaker 5: the newspaper, but there's an Israeli newspaper from years ago.

584
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 5: And I know even Israel. Uh there's like there's so

585
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 5: many nuanced things going on uh there right now, and

586
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 5: like including people rising up, the Israeli people rising up

587
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Speaker 5: to you know, combat the policies of the Israeli government.

588
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 5: The same way that you know, the US government doesn't

589
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Speaker 5: represent all of the views of the US people, the

590
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Speaker 5: Israeli government doesn't represent all the views of.

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Speaker 3: The Israeli people.

592
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Speaker 5: But so there was a cool Israeli newspaper years ago

593
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Speaker 5: that I learned about. There was a they responded to

594
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Speaker 5: and I think it was an Iranian newspaper. There was

595
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Speaker 5: some some anti Semitic newspaper. I think it not all Iranians,

596
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 5: but there was a particular like anti Semitic newspaper that

597
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 5: put out a call for Holocaust jokes, not run by Jews,

598
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 5: not about you. They're like, let's have a Holocaust joke contest.

599
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 5: And so in response, the Israeli newspaper was like, oh,

600
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Speaker 5: if you're gonna have a Holocaust joke competition, well, in response,

601
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 5: We're gonna have a Holocaust joke competition. And so that

602
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Speaker 5: I thought that that was like a hilarious, classy thing

603
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Speaker 5: to do, like you know, like, oh, you're like an

604
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 5: eminem eight mile kind of thing, like you're gonna make

605
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 5: fun of me, You're gonna roast me, You're gonna wrap

606
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 5: that on me.

607
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Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna do it.

608
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Speaker 5: First, I'm gonna say everything about me, like you know,

609
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Speaker 5: I can make fun of you know, I can say

610
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Speaker 5: things about my mom, but you can't say things about

611
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Speaker 5: my mom. Like and so I love that Auschwitz in

612
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Speaker 5: this in this very I mean, it's such a one

613
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 5: of the most serious things in the world, the Holocaust

614
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Speaker 5: and Auschwitz is like please respect us and making a

615
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 5: joke while doing it, which is like I feel like

616
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 5: classic classic Jewish.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it feels almost like when it's funny,

618
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Speaker 1: when you're when someone is funny but they're also like

619
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Speaker 1: mad for real, and you know what I mean, Like

620
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Speaker 1: you know those people that are like they're funny all

621
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Speaker 1: the time, but they're mad sometimes, and even they're funny

622
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: is fun even they're mad is funny. It feel like

623
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: that where it's like almost like look at this motherfucking thing.

624
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: It's a balance beam, you know, like, yeah, why does

625
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: he think it's a balance bean? That is ridiculous. It

626
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: is also offensive, but it's also patently ridiculous, and a

627
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: lot of offensive things are patently ridiculous, so it kind

628
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: of makes sense.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's I mean, there's nothing even really there's so

630
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Speaker 5: few things on the scope of the Holocaust or genocide

631
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 5: or what's going on what happened at Schwitz, but like

632
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Speaker 5: even can you even imagine like an influencer like posing

633
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Speaker 5: at a funeral, you know, like going like just that's

634
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,959
Speaker 5: kind of what you know, it's like a thing that

635
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Speaker 5: represents mass death.

636
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: And it and it only represents one thing, Like it's

637
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: just one of the few things and like that humanity

638
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: has decided like this just means one thing. Like even

639
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: in our most divided time right now, where everyone thinks

640
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: things mean what they want them to mean, Like we're like, no,

641
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: that's the one place we know what it is. If

642
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: you bought the ticket or you like got if you

643
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: got to the museum, you know what, you know, you

644
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: know what happens in there. No one's in there dancing

645
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: and ship all right, let's go. Yeah, it's a hype.

646
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Speaker 4: House, and you know what the thing about it is

647
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Speaker 4: in those picks, maybe just me, I see no brown people.

648
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, uh yeah, that that was that's a

649
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: valid point.

650
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 2: I guess we know how to behave I guess I don't.

651
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 3: I don't.

652
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: I mean I would assume that we're Uh, there's probably

653
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Speaker 1: a lot of reasons there are a lot of brown

654
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: people there. But also there's the fact that like, uh,

655
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: the kind of it's like a cash twenty two is

656
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: kind of like the Black History Museum. The kind of

657
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: person that really needs to visit might be the kind

658
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: of person that would think you can do balance beam

659
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: on the fucking railroad.

660
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 3: You know.

661
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: It's like maybe once you take a trip in and

662
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: you come back out, you just delete those, you know,

663
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: you just don't post those. You go, oh, I get

664
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: it now. But somehow these people made it all the

665
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: way in and made it all the way out and

666
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 1: then somehow thought I should put this on the ground.

667
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, that's a that's a great idea that

668
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 5: it should be a great policy, like uh, if take

669
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 5: all the pictures you want, but only post.

670
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: After Yeah, everyone should have all the pictures, should have

671
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: a caption like edit, y'all. I went into the museum

672
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: after this. My band that's on me. Marqueth Houston. We

673
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: talked about him before. He's a guy who is under

674
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: scrutiny because he married a woman much younger than him,

675
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: and this time he's s fucking up again. Uh. He

676
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: told page six that the reason he doesn't want to

677
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: marry a woman his age is because they come with

678
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 1: baggage and kids. A red flag to me. Was always

679
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 1: with a woman that had a kid. Nothing against single women,

680
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: but single mothers with children are a red flag to me.

681
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: He met his wife, Maya Dicky in twenty eighteen through

682
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: a mutual friend. He said, I tipped my hat and

683
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,479
Speaker 1: respect the women that are raising children on their own,

684
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: but when I grew up, I never really wanted to

685
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: have kids. It's He made headlines in twenty twenty when,

686
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: at the age of thirty eight, he married. It was

687
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: engaged to a nineteen year old, and he publicly defended

688
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: the relationship. His wife is now twenty two and they

689
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: have to They have a child together, and he's now

690
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: forty one, to which I think if they ever break up,

691
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: he's her baggage. Now you don't, oh yeah, well she

692
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: becomes an older woman if they don't make it. She's

693
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: got kids and an ex husband that are clearly baggage.

694
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 2: And this right.

695
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 4: Here frustrates me because I understand people have personal preface

696
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 4: about if people you know, with kids and all that

697
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 4: type of stuff. But my thing with this is all

698
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 4: it does is confirm what a lot of people are saying.

699
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 4: You like people young and dumb and stupid that haven't

700
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 4: experienced life yet. You want somebody that you can control,

701
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 4: that you can manipulate, late, that you can mold and

702
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 4: shape into what you want them to be. You don't

703
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 4: want somebody that's independent thinking, that might tell you no,

704
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 4: they might tell you they don't like that, that might

705
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 4: actually force something contrary, might actually force you to fucking

706
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 4: girl up. You don't want to deal with somebody like that.

707
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 4: You want to deal with somebody who has not experienced

708
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 4: enough life yet to actually know who they are. So

709
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 4: if I don't know who I am, I don't have

710
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 4: the I don't have the capability and I don't have

711
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 4: the parameters around me to go, Okay, these are my barriers,

712
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 4: you know, These are the things I can and cannot.

713
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: Deal with, or I will and won't deal with.

714
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 4: You can only get those things by just living right,

715
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 4: and so all you all all people are saying is like, hey, doll,

716
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 4: we were saying it was a problem because she hadn't

717
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 4: lived life yet, Like you snapped her up before she

718
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 4: could go out there and just experience life to find

719
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 4: out who she is.

720
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 2: And when you say shit like this, it just confirms it.

721
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 4: Okay, we was right about you when you make these comments.

722
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 4: And on top of that is very insulting, particularly being

723
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 4: a black Woman's very insulting for you to say this,

724
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 4: because people that like, when women have kids, they have

725
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 4: them by themselves, right, These kids don't just fucking appear

726
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 4: out of nowhere. It's a man somewhere this attached. So

727
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 4: the dad is no responsibility.

728
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 2: He could just do.

729
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: Whatever he wants to.

730
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 4: But the person that decides to stay a lot of time,

731
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 4: which is the woman actually gets a lot of the

732
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 4: blame and a lot of the fault right for it,

733
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 4: regardless of what happened.

734
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 2: And on top of that, that could be in a

735
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: good relationship. There's people that break up and they have

736
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 2: great relationships.

737
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 4: With their significant other, father or whoever.

738
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 2: And so for me, I'm sorry, going to change.

739
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 4: It's just really frustrating to actually just listen to you

740
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 4: say this.

741
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 5: Right, Ah, it was wonderful to listen to you say that.

742
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, I think exactly the same thing

743
00:38:58,800 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 5: in the exact same way.

744
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 3: So thank you for voicing. I think you're exactly right.

745
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 5: And I feel like an example of the kind of

746
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 5: thing you're talking about, the perfect example.

747
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 3: There's no other perfect example.

748
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 5: Than Eminem, who truly, like you know, spent a lot

749
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 5: of his career, you know, being angry at.

750
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 3: His mom in very creative ways.

751
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 5: But there's one album some years ago where I feel

752
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 5: like he had a song that basically apologized to his mom.

753
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 5: I think it was on like the Marshall Mathers LP

754
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 5: two maybe where he was sort of like rehashing but

755
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 5: like having grown and been like kind of came to

756
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 5: the point of like, oh, like I was mad at

757
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 5: you because you were the one that was there, Like

758
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 5: I couldn't yell at my dad because he wasn't there.

759
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 5: But I'm like truly much angrier at my absent dad.

760
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 5: But I can't yell at my absent dad and have

761
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 5: it do anything for me. So that's why he's like,

762
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 5: I'm sorry that I yelled at you, my present mom,

763
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 5: doing the best that you could with having been left.

764
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: All right, I think I remember that song. I think

765
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: it was like I'm sorry, mama.

766
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the name of it? Maybe with the guy

767
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,479
Speaker 3: from fun? Yeah. Yeah.

768
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: He also goes on to say I would talk to

769
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: my dad a lot, and he would always tell me

770
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: to have your own kids, because you never know what

771
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: the baby daddies are about. So if you're gonna have kids,

772
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: make sure it's what a woman that never has had kids.

773
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: So that was always my red flag. And a woman

774
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: with an attitude. I don't like women with funky attitudes.

775
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,919
Speaker 2: Oh and then you don't like women. I don't know.

776
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 4: Who don't have a funky attitude. Every now and then

777
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 4: you think we just wake up like this every day,

778
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 4: smiling because society has told y'all to say, bitch, smile

779
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 4: all the time, get out of here. I don't care

780
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 4: what kind of woman you are. Everybody has a funky attitude.

781
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: I don't know that maybe he's thinking about like a

782
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: constantly funky attitude. But I've noticed that a lot of

783
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,720
Speaker 1: times people's attitudes aren't response to the people around. Yes,

784
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 1: you know, and don't. It's like, every time I come around,

785
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 1: you got a bad attitude.

786
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 5: It's like, you know, there's my girlfriend RENI shared with

787
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 5: me this. I forget where this is from, and maybe

788
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 5: she'll come in and let me know. But there there's

789
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 5: a story of like a new a family comes to

790
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 5: a town. They're like and they are like, hey, we're

791
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 5: thinking of moving in here.

792
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 3: What kind of people? Uh do you have around here?

793
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 3: Like what are the people like?

794
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 5: And they're like, well, what were the people like back

795
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 5: where you came from? And they're like, oh, they were

796
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 5: kind of mean and like they would talk about you

797
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 5: behind your back, and they were back bite and you

798
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 5: know all these things and it was we didn't like

799
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 5: them at all. And they're like, yeah, well you might

800
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 5: find some people like that here, you know. And they're

801
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 5: like okay, we'll move on. And then another family comes

802
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 5: and they're like what are the people like here? And

803
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 5: they're like, what were the people like where you came from?

804
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 5: And they're like, they were actually very kind and generous,

805
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 5: and we were sad to move because we made so

806
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 5: many wonderful connections with all the wonderful people in the

807
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 5: community that were just so compassionate. And they're like, well,

808
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,479
Speaker 5: I think you're gonna find people like that here as well,

809
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 5: because we all project and so of course, like, do

810
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 5: you know this thing?

811
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 3: You ever watched Justified, the TV show?

812
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: I know of the show. I haven't watched it.

813
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 5: Uh, I love it. There's one not gonna spoil. I'll

814
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 5: spoil one joke. I just I love it so much.

815
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 5: The main character played by Timothy Oliphant Raylan Gibbons. I

816
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 5: think he says, he says, if you meet an asshole

817
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 5: in the morning, you met one asshole. If you meet

818
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,479
Speaker 5: assholes all day, you're the assholey. And so I feel

819
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 5: like that if you I mean, I feel like it

820
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 5: doesn't even make sense to have a type that you're

821
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 5: interested in, like prescriptively, because you can be like descriptive

822
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 5: and look like oh look, as it turns out, look,

823
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 5: I there were a lot of people that had some

824
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 5: things in common, but I don't even think that really

825
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 5: happens that much. But like everyone is so different that, like,

826
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 5: if you close yourself off to like a person with

827
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 5: a kid, or a person who had an attitude one

828
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 5: day that was different than like, like you said, Kren,

829
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 5: I feel like like maybe an attitude just means like

830
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 5: somebody who will disagree with you when you're wrong, you know.

831
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

832
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 1: And also, like I mean to me, if you close

833
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: off yourself that way, you're always gonna be right, you know,

834
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: because you're not giving it a chance. Like if you're

835
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: like I don't like women that got kids, it's like, well,

836
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: you're right, you shouldn't day women that have kids because

837
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: clearly you're gonna be fucked up about it. So why

838
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: even bring some woman and her kids into that situation.

839
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: I also find it interesting that he is the like

840
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: he's approaching all of this as if he's the pristine catch.

841
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I'm a forty year old man.

842
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: Of course every woman wants to me. He also said

843
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: women that are my age, they kind of have a

844
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: different outlook on life. Like a lot of women in

845
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: my age are very independent, They're very like, I don't

846
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: need a man to do this for me because I

847
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: can do it for myself. I come from a generation

848
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 1: and I love to provide for my wife. There's a

849
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: lot of women in my age I've dated. They may

850
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 1: have baggage, they may have kids, they may not. There's

851
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: so many different women I've been with throughout my life.

852
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 1: It's just so happens to be that this one maya

853
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: caught my heart, everything that I pray for, everything that

854
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: I wanted in a woman. She came with although she

855
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: was young. I'm young in spirit the immature member. That's

856
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: the name of the group. He was in immature memor.

857
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 3: I'm a baby.

858
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. I also like that he basically described a child.

859
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: Like when he's like, uh, women my age can do

860
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: things for himself. I need someone that depends on me.

861
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 5: It's weird because it's like he's saying two completely opposite things.

862
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 3: Also, he's like, I.

863
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 5: Want to take care of someone, but I don't want

864
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 5: someone who is taking care of that. Like it doesn't

865
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 5: make sense. Why wouldn't then you why don't you want

866
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 5: to be with If it's an independent woman who has

867
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 5: a child who doesn't need you, then what are you even?

868
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 3: What do you complain about what are you talking about?

869
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 5: It doesn't like like are you because I feel like

870
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 5: the reason that.

871
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 3: Most people if you don't look, if you don't want.

872
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 5: Kids, then don't have kids, right if you And if

873
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 5: you don't want to be with someone with kids, like

874
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 5: that's you're allowed to not be with someone with kids.

875
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 5: Like no need to judge and make it like a

876
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 5: blanket statement, be like, hey everyone out there, if you

877
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 5: have kids, I'm not interested. Just just date people who

878
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 5: don't have kids. If you want to date people who

879
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 5: don't have kids. But the reason why people don't want

880
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 5: to date people with kids sometimes is they're like, well,

881
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 5: maybe I don't want to be a parent, maybe I'm

882
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 5: not ready to be, maybe I don't feel responsible, maybe

883
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 5: I don't want to take care of people. But this

884
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,479
Speaker 5: guy's then turning around and saying, like, what I want is.

885
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 3: To take care of people. I want to take care

886
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 3: of people, But I don't want to be with somebody

887
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 3: with a kid, right take care of them?

888
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: Like what do you I want to be with a

889
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: kid not she has a kid. Also, y'alls on to

890
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: say in the Immature Days once again, that's the name

891
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: of the group he was in. We would have light

892
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 1: scanned girls in our music videos. Then people would question

893
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: why can't you get a black girl? And then I'm like,

894
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I only like light skinned girls. Then the

895
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: plus sized girls are come and get me. I was like, man,

896
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: I can't catch a break. I like that he doesn't

897
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 1: think any of his problems are self inflicted.

898
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 4: At all at all, and and just just just listening

899
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 4: to him, he he to me, he feels like a

900
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 4: Facebook meme where you go thoughts. He feels like a

901
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 4: long ass trick to thread with the assy ass niggas.

902
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 4: Then me posting shit online like everything you said, you're

903
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 4: checking off all of those boxes.

904
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very toxic. It's like what it's like Mike said,

905
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: It's like, why am I meeting assholes all day? It's like, bro,

906
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 1: you don't see right.

907
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 4: And on top of that, yeah, you don't see a

908
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 4: lot of this is ego, Like you know, your ego

909
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 4: is so big and so huge that you will not

910
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 4: allow somebody to.

911
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 2: Not need you, you know, and not only him, is

912
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 2: a lot of men that are like that.

913
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: Just from from I think also like it's a crutch,

914
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: right because it's a shortcut. What you're thinking is in

915
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: your insecurity. If a person has to need me, then

916
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: they can't leave me, and I can't ever not be

917
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: in control, which is what at least that's how I'm receiving.

918
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: What he's saying is a very much like I need

919
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: a woman that can't do things on her own, because

920
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: then she won't need me, and any woman that doesn't

921
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: need me with the way that I am would not

922
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: deal with me. I need her to need me or

923
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: else I cannot truly be in control this relationship. And

924
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: because I think in a healthy way, at our best,

925
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: a lot of us would hope when we're in a

926
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 1: romantic relationship that we are doing things that the other

927
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: person feels that they need. You know, you would hope

928
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: to like I don't think that's a bad impetus unless

929
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: it comes from like the insecurity of I want to

930
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: control you. I would I hope that Karen does go.

931
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: I am hungry and Rod is making lunch, and I'm

932
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: expecting to have lunch every day. I like, I like

933
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: to be needed in that way. What I what I

934
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't want is for it to be like if I

935
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: don't do this, Karen can't or won't eat, because to me,

936
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 1: that's that's like a level of of like that's like

937
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: having a child. It is literally like what a baby

938
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: would have to do. It's like a baby can't eat

939
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 1: without me. I don't need that level of being needed. Yes,

940
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: and it's also yeah, no, go ahead, Mike, you gotta Karen.

941
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:40,439
Speaker 2: And yes, And also I think for one of the

942
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 2: things for me.

943
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 4: And I am I guess I keep talking about this

944
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 4: because I'm very I know me, I'm very.

945
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 2: Sensitive to to like to like to speak.

946
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 4: And it's one of the things where it just it

947
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 4: just irritates me when you hear me and go, well,

948
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 4: I don't need an independent woman like and an independent

949
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 4: woman is just this devastating thing and that when you go,

950
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 4: will a woman don't need me? Well, it's one of

951
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 4: those things is partially y'all fault because of patriarchy, Like

952
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 4: you know, like men create the problem and then men

953
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 4: get mad because now they're victims of a problem that

954
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 4: they created, because it's one of those things where for

955
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 4: a lot of women, they particularly you get older, you've

956
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 4: been through enough shit and you dealt with enough people

957
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 4: that you been like, fuck it, I can do it

958
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 4: by myself, and I can do it on my own

959
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 4: and you know, and a lot of times, for a

960
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 4: lot of women, is out of necessity. It's not because

961
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 4: you won't to a lot of times, it's because society

962
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 4: wraps its minds and force you to. And for a

963
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 4: lot of women, they don't want to lord their standards

964
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 4: and take anything. For some dick, I can go get

965
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 4: some wd's and gone by my business, put it up

966
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 4: and I don't have to deal.

967
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 2: With it past that.

968
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 4: I ain't got to feed it, take care of it,

969
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 4: none of that, you know, if it's just a about

970
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 4: the quote unquote satisfaction, and it's one of those things

971
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 4: where you need to bring more than just your money

972
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 4: and your penis. And I think a lot of dudes

973
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 4: think I walk in the door, I have this and

974
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 4: you should just be satisfied and worship it. And that's

975
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,479
Speaker 4: not so the requirements I hire, And they get mad

976
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 4: because the requirements I hire, and they don't want to

977
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 4: meet the standard or whatever that woman's standard is. And

978
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 4: that's how funny. Sometimes you might be outside your league,

979
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 4: men don't ever think you they're outside their league when

980
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 4: it comes to women. They think I have a penis,

981
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 4: I have my right to any woman of my choosing

982
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 4: that's not always.

983
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 3: So my word. Yeah, I have about three quick things

984
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 3: I'll try. I'll try.

985
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 5: I'll try quick one from earlier when we were talking

986
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 5: about this guy's you know, victim mentality, like I can't

987
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 5: catch a break. You know, when I'm rude to fat people,

988
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 5: then they get mad at me. When I'm rude to

989
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 5: darker skinned people, then they get mad at me, like

990
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,439
Speaker 5: why will? It reminds me of there's a comedian I love,

991
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 5: Andy Hindler, and years ago when Carlos Mencia was very

992
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 5: famous and popular, Andy had like an impression of Carlos

993
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 5: Mencia that went like this. He was like, oh, so

994
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 5: I'm the bad guy because I said the racist thing

995
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 5: like that.

996
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 3: That's what this guy sounds like to me. I don't

997
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 3: know him well, but he's.

998
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 5: Like, what me, I'm the one I keep stepping on

999
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 5: everyone's feet and they keep complaining about it. Why won't

1000
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 5: they shut up? So that's one thing. Another real quick

1001
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 5: people in the chat have been bringing up the concept

1002
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 5: of the alpha male, which if you if you look

1003
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 5: up in like the actual like literature of science, the

1004
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 5: way that alphas arise in like wolf packs and in

1005
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 5: I think in other primates it's not the biggest, strongest

1006
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 5: that can beat up everyone. It's the one who can

1007
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 5: like gather a coalition of like like mind, who's like

1008
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 5: can get along with everyone and can help if there

1009
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 5: is some like attack from within or without, to be like, okay,

1010
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 5: we got this, what can we do together to unite?

1011
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 5: It's like, you know, a uniter, not a strong divider.

1012
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 5: And the other thing just I feel like the final

1013
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,760
Speaker 5: thing that I was, Oh yeah, the idea of being

1014
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 5: needed is if you want to be in a relationship

1015
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,760
Speaker 5: like we all like we're as a human as humans,

1016
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 5: and I think most animals as well, but certainly as

1017
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 5: humans where a communal species, where communal creatures, very few

1018
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 5: of us could survive on our own. We need often

1019
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 5: a community, often a family, often a partner. Like not

1020
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 5: everyone needs all of those things. You know, you can

1021
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 5: live in a village on your own, you can live

1022
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 5: in the woods if you want to, but most of

1023
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 5: us need some help, some human contact. And so I

1024
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 5: think the thing that's noteworthy about this guy and what

1025
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 5: he's saying, it's like, it's not wrong to want to

1026
00:52:55,680 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 5: be needed or to need someone, but in most functions

1027
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 5: and all optimal relationships, there it's not that Karen needs

1028
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 5: Rod and Rod doesn't need Karen.

1029
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 3: It's both.

1030
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 5: Like in my relationship, like I I provide things that

1031
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 5: for my girlfriend and she provides things for me. Like

1032
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 5: the way if you had like two like playing cards,

1033
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 5: like leaning up against each other, or even just two people,

1034
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 5: you can like if we can both lean on each other,

1035
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 5: we can both back to back like count on each

1036
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 5: other and like where one of us would fall, we're

1037
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 5: both like doing a trust fall against each other all

1038
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 5: the time, and in that way it's trust and no

1039
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 5: fall because we're both holding each other up and lifting

1040
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,399
Speaker 5: each other up and providing things for each other that

1041
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 5: we we don't have everything in our own experience, but

1042
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 5: you guys get it, like you we provide to each other.

1043
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 5: And there are relationships where look, if you want to

1044
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 5: have a relationship where one person provides everything and the

1045
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 5: other person like can consensually, like you know, proactively agree

1046
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 5: that they're like, oh yeah, you, but you both have

1047
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 5: to give, like it have to be giving on both sides.

1048
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: The thing for me too, is when you when people

1049
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: talk about relationships and they talk about being needed in

1050
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 1: this way, it feels like a power argument and not

1051
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: necessarily a reciprocal situation. And what it makes me think

1052
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:20,760
Speaker 1: is like you feel like you you have a negative,

1053
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: you have a scarcity mindset of I have to be

1054
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: needed because you're afraid that you won't. You're you're not wanted,

1055
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:32,280
Speaker 1: you know, because I think if you're if you're wanted,

1056
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: there's a different feeling, Like if you do things that

1057
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: make someone want you, right because whether even if you

1058
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: think it's a need, but if you're cooking every day,

1059
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,879
Speaker 1: if you're cleaning, if you're if you make the most

1060
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: money or whatever, if you're how you how you show

1061
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: up for someone when they need, like emotional support, things

1062
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 1: that like there's things that make you want a person.

1063
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: You know, assets make the hard go fonder because you

1064
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: want to be around that person. And I think when

1065
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: you take that out of the equation and you just go, well,

1066
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: I gotta make sure this person can't eat if I'm

1067
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: not around. I gotta make sure this person can't you know,

1068
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 1: sign documents to get their own stuff. I don't want

1069
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: a person that can do things for themselves. What you're

1070
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,720
Speaker 1: really saying is I don't bring anything to the table

1071
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: if you don't need me. At a forty year old woman.

1072
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: She won't need me because she's made it forty years

1073
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: without me, and she's definitely not gonna want me because

1074
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: I'm doing a lot of unwantable shit, you know, like

1075
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,919
Speaker 1: I have a lot of fucked up opinions.

1076
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 2: Right on yourself.

1077
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 4: And to go back on what Mike was saying about

1078
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 4: alpha males, one thing I realized about alpha males.

1079
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:36,959
Speaker 2: Guess what they don't say I'm an alpha male.

1080
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 4: A lot of times they just appear and they just

1081
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 4: beat their presence will let you know that they're alpha.

1082
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: I don't even really fucking believe in that shit, like

1083
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: everyone every and it's weird, Like I don't know if

1084
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 1: you have experience too, Mike. Every time I'm around men

1085
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: that bring up alpha male stuff and they're not And

1086
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: now I'm not around these men who are like pro

1087
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: alpha male things, like they're not like they're not preaching

1088
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: the stuff, you know, they're not like Andrew Tate. But

1089
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 1: every time we're in a situation where this comes up

1090
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 1: and I'll be like, yeah, I don't really believe in that,

1091
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: and they'll be like, that's because you're alpha male. I'm like,

1092
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: I don't even see this as a compliment, Like I

1093
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 1: wasn't fishing for a compliment, dude, I honestly think this.

1094
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 2: Is stupid, and they're going, Rod, you can't keep.

1095
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 5: You keep on doing the opposite of digging your grave,

1096
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 5: you keep on building your monument. You know, my girlpen

1097
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 5: can hear us in the other room, or she can

1098
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 5: hear me, and she she shared that I believe in

1099
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 5: in primates. Like then, the alphas among monkeys are the

1100
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 5: monkeys with the most serotonin who are the calmest, the

1101
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,720
Speaker 5: calmest ones who can help everyone else be calm, because

1102
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 5: that's the mark of you know.

1103
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 3: A positive society.

1104
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 5: A positive community is not one that's like ready for

1105
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 5: war at all times and you know, on edge and

1106
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 5: like I could defeat anyone, but people who can, you know,

1107
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 5: defeat their own inner demons and be chill. And so

1108
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 5: you know, I'm so sorry to agree with these assholes

1109
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 5: that are telling you, but it does sound like you, Rod,

1110
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 5: are by this definition that you don't believe in.

1111
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 3: But but yeah, for if anyone, for most.

1112
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 5: People like to say that someone's an alpha, Yeah, because

1113
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 5: most of the time in alpha, like you know, there's

1114
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 5: a Brian Reagan has a joke about uh Sully, you know,

1115
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 5: the the hero who landed the plane in the Hudson

1116
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 5: and people didn't die. And his joke is like, they're like,

1117
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 5: that guy's a hero. Then they talk to him, they

1118
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 5: interview him, and he's like like, are you a hero?

1119
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 3: And he's like, oh, I'm no hero. I'm just doing

1120
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 3: that what anyone would he said, he is a hero.

1121
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 3: He said he wants one.

1122
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: That's like the mark you're the leader. Now, It's like

1123
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: I would prefer not to be used to happen to

1124
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: us on the podcast, and uh, people would call us

1125
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: activists because they will want to like give us this

1126
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,919
Speaker 1: like this lofty title of like, you know, the work

1127
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: you're doing with your podcast, this is like good, you

1128
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: know you're an activist ride And I'd be like, no,

1129
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: I'm not, and they'd be like, don't say that, no

1130
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: that you know you're just being home. I'm like, I

1131
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: literally feel like I'm not an activist and want and

1132
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: because the other part is like there comes an expectation

1133
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: when you put on a label like that, and I

1134
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: respect the label. It's like if I call myself a

1135
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: stand up comedian, I've never been on stage, I'd be like,

1136
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: you know, I haven't done the thing, and I think

1137
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: it's okay that I'm not a stand up comedian.

1138
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 2: That's why I'm a sit down comedian.

1139
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, in certain conversations they're stand up comedians.

1140
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: He will say, like, no, man, don't say that about yourself.

1141
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: Was like, no, I'm We're being literal. This is a

1142
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: textbook definition. I don't get on stage and do stand up.

1143
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: I think that's a big thing. So I kind of

1144
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: feel that that happens to me with some of these labels,

1145
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: you know, whether it be the alpha mal thing or

1146
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: the activist thing. And I know it's coming from a

1147
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: good place because it's they think it's a compliment, but

1148
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: I don't need it. I'm good.

1149
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 5: Well, if I if I may say, what a what

1150
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 5: a brilliant activist statement, you just say, well, I.

1151
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 3: Wanna truly I hear you, and I do love you.

1152
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: Know.

1153
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 5: I think that if the Maya Angelou quote or perhaps

1154
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 5: a paraphrasing of it, you know, if someone shows you

1155
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 5: or tells you who they are, believe them the first time.

1156
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 5: But also if someone tells you who you are and

1157
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 5: you don't agree, you don't have to believe that, Like,

1158
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 5: but what you what you could say I want to

1159
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 5: I want to offer I want to. I want to

1160
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:32,919
Speaker 5: tell you a story about some advice that I got

1161
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 5: once that I just well, I'm not gonna I know

1162
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 5: people don't love to get unsolicited advice, but here's a

1163
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,479
Speaker 5: tool that has been valuable to me in my tool

1164
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 5: kit one time. You know Jesse Joyce, the comedian, yeh,

1165
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 5: Jesse H Jesse who I feel like, you know? I

1166
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 5: know y'all, are you know aligned in the the Keith

1167
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 5: and the Girl world? And I remember Jesse, one of

1168
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 5: the comedians who years ago was like, yeah, one of

1169
00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 5: the most vocal telling Keith that he wasn't a stand

1170
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 5: up comedian as much as he would be if he

1171
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 5: got on stage more than once a year because to Jesse,

1172
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 5: like Jesse would never call.

1173
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 3: You a stand up comedian.

1174
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 5: He would he might say, you're a comedian, a podcast comedian,

1175
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 5: a funny person, like there's many you.

1176
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 3: I mean.

1177
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 5: The main point is that you get to determine what

1178
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:20,439
Speaker 5: your identity is. You get determined how you identify as

1179
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 5: a human in the world. I just listened to my

1180
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 5: friend Chris Duffy has a podcast called How to Be

1181
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 5: a Better Human, and he had on this non binary

1182
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 5: artist named Aloak and a Looak. They are so They're

1183
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 5: a poet, they're a comedian, they're this beautiful like you know,

1184
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 5: gender activist in a way, but they're basically like I

1185
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 5: only may. The only label I take for myself is

1186
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 5: artist because it's the only one that can contain all

1187
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 5: of the chaos of all of the other things that

1188
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 5: I do and the ways people perceive me. And so

1189
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 5: Jesse years ago, in twenty ten, I had my Comedy

1190
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 5: Central half hour come out, and in late two thousand

1191
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 5: and nine when I recorded it. At some point after

1192
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 5: the recording, he saw me and was like, hey, I

1193
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 5: heard about the recording.

1194
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 3: I heard you doing a half hour.

1195
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 5: Congratulations, great, great job, and I was like, thank you

1196
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 5: so much. I don't remember exactly what I said, but

1197
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 5: I know I talked at him for a couple minutes,

1198
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 5: going through like spilling out everything. I don't know if

1199
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 5: you can imagine me talking for a while, but I

1200
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,959
Speaker 5: spilled out all of these concerns that I had, because.

1201
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 3: Like, oh yeah, it was really it was good.

1202
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 5: Though there were a few minutes where every once in

1203
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 5: a while I said something not the way that I intended,

1204
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 5: but I took it back and they like, did it again.

1205
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 5: I think they can edit it and I'm pretty sure

1206
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 5: it'll turn out well. I think the audience was endeared

1207
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 5: to me even more. And after I went on for

1208
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 5: a while, he was like, hey, man, you know you

1209
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 5: maybe could just say thanks.

1210
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: And I was like, that's very valuable.

1211
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,959
Speaker 3: Thank you for that. I thought about that for more

1212
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 3: than a decade.

1213
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 5: That like, because it's the artist's burden to know what

1214
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 5: might have been, is what saxophonist Charles Burns, I believe, said,

1215
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 5: like when we do a show, when you do something

1216
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 5: like somebody could be hearing your show for the first

1217
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 5: time and you might be like, oh, that wasn't my favorite,

1218
01:01:58,400 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 5: it wasn't my best.

1219
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 3: I know what it could be been.

1220
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 5: But to them, it's probably ninety percent the same as

1221
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 5: any of the others. Like they're not going to notice

1222
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 5: what you notice, and like why it's kind of like

1223
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 5: doing a disservice to your fan to be like, no,

1224
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 5: it wasn't that. And this is a slightly different thing

1225
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 5: where somebody's like you are this and you don't have

1226
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 5: to agree with them, right, but you could just say,

1227
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 5: like saying thank you doesn't like mean that now you

1228
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 5: have written a contract that people now can be like, hey,

1229
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 5: you said thank you when someone said you're an activist,

1230
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 5: and now I notice that you're not doing all the

1231
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 5: things that other activists are doing when you have now

1232
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 5: become a member of the activist community by saying thank you,

1233
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 5: as we know, is legally binding.

1234
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 3: I really do think that.

1235
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 5: That you, like, I understand, and it's it's so I'm

1236
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 5: it could be easier, it could be helpful, like to

1237
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 5: not to not if somebody says you're a comedian. If

1238
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 5: somebody says, I mean, obviously there's terms that don't apply.

1239
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 5: If somebody says, no, you're what you're doing is kind

1240
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,919
Speaker 5: of like music, you're like a musician, but like it's

1241
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 5: all relative in a way as well. I have a

1242
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 5: new joke about how you know, asensial part of it

1243
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 5: is that if you're a poet, then I'm not a poet.

1244
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 5: But if you're not a poet, then I'm a poet,

1245
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 5: you know, like I write poetry, Like I'm more a

1246
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 5: poet than a lot of people because a lot of

1247
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 5: people don't write poetry. And but I'm also not officially

1248
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 5: a poet. I'm not legally like I don't make my

1249
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 5: money get it like writing poetry.

1250
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 3: I don't put it down on my.

1251
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 5: Taxes, but like like you get to you know, you

1252
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 5: might ride a bike. You might not be a cyclist,

1253
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 5: but you're you can ride a bike. You're a cyclist

1254
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 5: more than I am because I never learned how to

1255
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 5: ride a bike. You know, Like those are things that

1256
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 5: are so it's the lab and labels are just meant

1257
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 5: to be helpful because the humans are you know, we're

1258
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 5: a categorizing species. We're seeking stories and patterns that make

1259
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 5: sense to just be like, what is this like? And they're

1260
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 5: what they're seeing in you is the spirit of these things.

1261
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 5: They're seeing the spirit of a medium. They're seeing the

1262
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 5: spirit of an activist, even if you're not one. In

1263
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:07,919
Speaker 5: the letter, you're one hundred percent. And it says now

1264
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 5: on the screen, I see we're waiting for the Black

1265
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 5: Eyed Tips podcast.

1266
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 1: On refreshing Karen. Oh my goodness, I don't know why

1267
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 1: it disconnected. Everything was going and it just dropped. I'll

1268
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 1: come right back.

1269
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 5: And taking them to heart and and I think he's

1270
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 5: going to come back.

1271
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 3: And now it's just me and Karen, So happy to

1272
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 3: be here with you.

1273
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 2: Karen, yay, and.

1274
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 3: Through Rod's scenario.

1275
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god, but I guess hold on, guys, now

1276
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 1: we can't hear Michael Massa. Yeah, but Rod will be back.

1277
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 5: But in the meantime, I do like I think that

1278
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 5: the spirit of who we are and the letter of

1279
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 5: who we are like the not that one is important

1280
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 5: and the other isn't important. Like it's great to know

1281
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 5: who you are in the letter of the law, and

1282
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 5: it's also good to know who you are in spirit.

1283
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 5: And how you appear to others may not be how

1284
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 5: you appear to yourself, but it's also nice to you know.

1285
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 1: I respect and I respect that, but I feel like

1286
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 1: honoring my truth is as a person, I don't like

1287
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: to be mislabeled, you know. So I think what happens

1288
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 1: is that they think it's a compliment, and because of

1289
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 1: a compliment, they think I'm rejecting the compliment as opposed

1290
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 1: to just being like I would just I feel fine

1291
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 1: being not labeled that way. And I still receive the

1292
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 1: good energy because I know where it came from is

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01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: a good place. God, son of a God, Damn.

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01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 5: Will receives the good energy, but we don't receive it anymore.

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01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 5: I'll tell you this as well, wait for him to

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01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 5: reconnect again. Lenny Bruce, one of the most influential comedians

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01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 5: of all time, once said, I'm not a comedian, I'm

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01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 5: Lenny Bruce, and I truly do feel like that when

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01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 5: you achieve a certain level, when you attain a certain

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01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 5: status in whatever art forum you're in, like one of

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01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 5: the highest like compliments, One of the highest aspirations for

1302
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 5: a lot of people is to not be even like

1303
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 5: the best comedian or the best podcaster, but to be yourself,

1304
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 5: like to be like Prince is Prince, you know, and

1305
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 5: Beyonce is Beyonce, and there need be.

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01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: No I had to refresh everybody. I'm so sorry, this

1307
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 1: is I don't know what.

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01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 5: Like what you don't even once you're Once you're Beyonce,

1309
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 5: you don't have to worry about what genre you're in.

1310
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 5: You're the Beyonce genre. Like Reggie Watts is the Reggie

1311
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 5: Watts genre, you know, Like Maria Bamford is the Maria

1312
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 5: Bamford genre.

1313
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 1: And Rod you are the wait, oh god, what's just

1314
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:43,919
Speaker 1: happened now?

1315
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 3: And then he did appeared again, and.

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01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 1: I could hear you the whole time.

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01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 2: Yes, I could hear you too.

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01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, I was something was happening with that browser,

1319
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 1: so I close it. We're just gonna use Karl now.

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01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, ippreciate the sentiment, but yeah, it's just

1321
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 1: not you know, I just and I and in my head,

1322
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: I am one of those people that that goes uh uh.

1323
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 1: I respect this title enough to understand there's things that

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01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 1: come with it, you know.

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01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm not willing. I don't want to do,

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01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 2: you know.

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01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 4: And like I say, is that a respect that I

1328
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 4: don't grab the hat and put it upside my heads?

1329
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 2: I was like, well, I'm not because of me. I

1330
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 2: don't have that type.

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01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 1: Of Yeah, I'm just like, I mean, now, technically someone

1332
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 1: can hold you to that standard even if you disagree,

1333
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 1: but at least I have a say. And the part

1334
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 1: I have a say in is the part that I

1335
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 1: want to be like uh huh, like like, hey, I

1336
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 1: respect and understand where you're coming from. I don't need

1337
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 1: that from me, but you know, I don't want to

1338
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 1: get stuck on that.

1339
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 5: But just you know, I think I think you're in

1340
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 5: good company as well. Like it's not the exact same thing,

1341
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 5: but I think there's a parallel between like John Stewart

1342
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 5: and Door John Oliver, who are both you know, they

1343
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 5: are comedians, and they would identify as only comedians, even

1344
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 5: though for a time, I think some percentage, some majority

1345
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 5: of like young people were getting their news mainly from

1346
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 5: the Daily Show, even though it's not a new it's

1347
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 5: a comedy news show. Like you there was real news,

1348
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 5: like they did real research. But they're not journalists. Like

1349
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 5: when John Stuart would go and hold journalists to task

1350
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 5: and be like, hey, you're not being.

1351
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 3: A good journalist.

1352
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 5: They could be like, well, you're not being a good journalist.

1353
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 5: He's like, yeah, I'm not a journalist. I'm a comedian

1354
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 5: and I people shouldn't be getting their news more from

1355
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:45,640
Speaker 5: me than from theoretically you a journalist.

1356
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,680
Speaker 3: But like you're more of a clown than me. The

1357
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 3: clown right, Like that's a huge thing.

1358
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:59,640
Speaker 1: Another major news story, Jonathan Majors, the actor, reportedly has

1359
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 1: been d by his management and PR teams following the

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01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:07,679
Speaker 1: domestic violence charges that he was accused of. Oh no, yeah,

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01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 1: I think like his PR team or lawyer or whatever

1362
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 1: it first put out this like broad sleeven statement that

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01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 1: made it. It was almost unequivocal, like this is clearly

1364
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: a setup this man will be free. He's got witnesses,

1365
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 1: there's a video. He's gonna be exonerated. We're all gonna

1366
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:27,679
Speaker 1: see there's huge misunderstanding. And that was a few weeks ago,

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01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 1: and no one's seen the video. I don't know that

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01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 1: any of the witnesses have come forward, and who knows

1369
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 1: what's happening behind the scenes. But anytime your PR people

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01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 1: and management drop you, which is literally the time that

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01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 1: you're paying for you know what, I feel?

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01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 2: Like yes, like yeah, like like this is why they

1373
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 2: pay you.

1374
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 1: Like your PR people and your crisis manager people are

1375
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 1: literally they got one job and if they get to

1376
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 1: a crisis where they're like, my this is too much,

1377
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 1: it's not voting well for him. So I really, I mean,

1378
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 1: I'm maybe we'll see that footage, maybe one and then

1379
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 1: if the footage isn't exactly as they said, which I mean,

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01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 1: it almost had to be comically ridiculous to make it

1381
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 1: not him, like him being somewhat physically aggressive towards this woman.

1382
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 1: Like I don't even know what the explanation could be. Uh,

1383
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 1: it was like you had to see a video of

1384
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 1: someone like beating themselves up and being like you're doing

1385
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 1: this to me and like completely faking it because if not,

1386
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 1: he's just a guy that like hit a woman. And

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Speaker 1: I don't think I mean, whether it be Creed three

1388
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 1: franchise to Creed franchise where there's Marvel, all those Marvel movies,

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody wants to have that affiliated with

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01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:45,799
Speaker 1: their brand.

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01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 2: So nope. And and I know.

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01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 4: Because the capitalism, you know, I be like, this is

1393
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:54,639
Speaker 4: this is why I'm concerned.

1394
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 2: I love the ma of a franchise.

1395
01:10:56,760 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 4: So mister Kevin fig and him go trust Day are

1396
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 4: somewhere saying what do we do and how do we

1397
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 4: handle this? And now how do we still keep these

1398
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 4: things we have in line and rewrite and revamp. So

1399
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 4: trust somebody somewhere is having songs right now about this.

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01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 1: I saw a statement that was kind of a weird statement.

1401
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:23,719
Speaker 1: It was like there have been no discussions at Marvel

1402
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 1: to replace him yet or whatever, and I was just like, yeah,

1403
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 1: that's kind of a non story, isn't it. Like isn't

1404
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:34,719
Speaker 1: the fact that does a story mean that he's probably out?

1405
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 1: Like that you had to report it.

1406
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 3: It doesn't make any sense.

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01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 5: At all, Like there there's clearly like there's definite like

1408
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 5: there's conversations. I mean, this is a conversation them saying

1409
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 5: there have been no conversations about this is number one

1410
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 5: at least the first, if it's not probably the seventeenth

1411
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 5: conversation about this. The dealers is with all of the

1412
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 5: Marvel movies now and the fact that there is like

1413
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 5: a multiverse, you know, in the cannon of Marvel, Like,

1414
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 5: all they have to do is go back like Kang,

1415
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,680
Speaker 5: his character is a time traveler, So all they have

1416
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 5: to do is go back in time and recast somebody

1417
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 5: else or forward in time, and uh, and they'll have

1418
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 5: a brand new Kang. I mean they've had you know,

1419
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 5: numerous like they've had numerous Spider Man actors in the

1420
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 5: same Spider Man movie, which is pretty cool, Like so good,

1421
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 5: I think, Thank goodness. The most important part of this

1422
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 5: story in which the human was violently assaulted, is that

1423
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 5: Marvel will probably be O, yes.

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01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:39,640
Speaker 1: Our entertainment, you know, that's what it's all about. It's

1425
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:44,599
Speaker 1: been interesting the response from people I traffic in online

1426
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 1: because a lot of people really really really like this dude.

1427
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 1: Like he did a press run. He's he's he got

1428
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 1: all chiseled, he's like super.

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01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 2: Sexy, yeah, he did love Craft Country.

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01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just done a bunch of stuff, especially for

1431
01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 1: like black entertainment, Like black people really like his work.

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01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 1: But because of that, even the people that normally are

1433
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:07,719
Speaker 1: like man, fuck this guy, you know, like right away whatever,

1434
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 1: like someone's accused of something. Everyone's been given the most

1435
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 1: like nuanced, like the most like hey hey guys, you know,

1436
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 1: like let's hear them out. And I'm just like, I

1437
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 1: don't know, man, it's not looking good good. Yeah, Like

1438
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 1: I get it because I'm the thing for me is

1439
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:27,520
Speaker 1: that I'm kind of always a less hear I'm out guy.

1440
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 1: So so yeah, this is the first time I've had

1441
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 1: company on the less here I'm outside where I'm like,

1442
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 1: I don't and it's never like less hear them out

1443
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:38,720
Speaker 1: because they're innocent. It's always just like I don't need

1444
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 1: to rush the judgment. I have nothing to do with

1445
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 1: this situation. Either stuff will come out and we'll be like, oh,

1446
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:47,600
Speaker 1: that's what happened, or stuff or stuff comes out the

1447
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 1: other way, you go, oh that's what happened, or nothing

1448
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 1: ever comes out. But I at no point in beholden

1449
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 1: to like being the first person to call balls and

1450
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,600
Speaker 1: strikes on this. This isn't like a sports team or

1451
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:00,679
Speaker 1: something where I'm like, I think they're gonna win the game,

1452
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 1: like it doesn't even fucking matter. But people are very

1453
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 1: invested in like you know, like I saw someone say,

1454
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 1: uh man, he just needs first of all, as Mike

1455
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 1: as Stutey pointed out, we're talking about potentially there's a

1456
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 1: there's a person who's been victimized here. But instead of

1457
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 1: people are like, what he needs to do is go

1458
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 1: on red table talk. I'm like, how is that the

1459
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:24,639
Speaker 1: most important thing right now? That's crazy?

1460
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 5: This We don't know this, dude, but good luck, you know,

1461
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 5: good luck if it turns out. I mean that, like again,

1462
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 5: we we just don't. We live in a society right

1463
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 5: now where it seems like with the news cycle, with

1464
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 5: pop culture, with the media, there's so many stories and

1465
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 5: I mean, like, you know, we're here on your show.

1466
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 5: You cover pop culture news stories, but you don't cover

1467
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 5: all the stories, and you can't do in depth research

1468
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 5: into all the stories. You don't have a team of

1469
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,679
Speaker 5: journalists working for you. We can only you know, see

1470
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 5: the news as it comes out from the people who

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01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 5: are reporting it on the ground. So like it's my

1472
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:03,640
Speaker 5: friend Gus shared this perspective with me, and it kind of,

1473
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,679
Speaker 5: you know, blew my mind a little bit that he's

1474
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 5: just like, it seems like everyone thinks that they have

1475
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 5: to have a take on everything, and it's just often the.

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01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 3: Case that, like, literally, I think, you literally can't. You can't.

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01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 5: You can't have a nuanced, detailed take on everything unless

1478
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 5: part of your take is, I don't know, let's see,

1479
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 5: So like on the let's hear him out front, like,

1480
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 5: let's see, let's see what happens, Let's see what new

1481
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 5: information arises. And maybe maybe this woman, maybe his victim,

1482
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 5: would be the best person to be recast as Kang.

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01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 3: That's all.

1484
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm already seen the recast of it. Is so

1485
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 1: funny this article. I'm not going to read the whole

1486
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:43,599
Speaker 1: thing just because I just thought the headline was funny.

1487
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 1: And it's a tongue in cheek article from the AV Club,

1488
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 1: so I think they understand that it's funny as well.

1489
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 1: But it's if the Mario movie makes a billion dollars,

1490
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 1: we really might be screwed, ha ha. And then it

1491
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 1: goes on and talk about how I if this movie,

1492
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 1: which we do like, which we do think is good

1493
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 1: is too successful. Then they'll make other movies which may

1494
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:10,600
Speaker 1: not be as good and may not be as successful,

1495
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 1: and then we'll have less good movies about other video

1496
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 1: games and stuff, which is just like when we were

1497
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 1: younger and all the video game movies were bad, so

1498
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 1: we don't want this thing. And I just always find

1499
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 1: it funny because one movie critics treat movies like the

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01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 1: stock market. Now like it, it just stopped at some

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01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 1: point in my lifetime, it just literally stopped being like

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01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 1: I like this movie from one to five stars, here's

1503
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 1: how right, And it started being like, Okay, I like

1504
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:45,879
Speaker 1: this movie, but what does that mean for the other movies?

1505
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:47,680
Speaker 1: And how does this mean? What does it mean is

1506
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:49,799
Speaker 1: this is a franchise, what does it mean for the company?

1507
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 1: What does this mean for literally the movie theater stock,

1508
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 1: you know, stuff like I'm like, the experience of pure

1509
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 1: sitting in the theaters though, is to me the main story?

1510
01:16:58,600 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 4: Right?

1511
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 1: But then the other is there supposed to be some

1512
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 1: magical point where all the movies are good? That is

1513
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 1: that where we're trying to get, Like, are we trying

1514
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 1: to get to the fictional moment where we only we

1515
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 1: are at Max's capacity of just good movies, no bad

1516
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 1: movies will ever be made, and everything, like I don't

1517
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 1: even know it's good. Ye, I don't even know what why.

1518
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 1: And it feels maybe it's because we're all like children now,

1519
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 1: Like we're all forty year old children and we never

1520
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 1: truly grew up. We grew up in an internet age

1521
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 1: where everything's kind of at our back and call we

1522
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 1: play video games to this day, and maybe our entertainment

1523
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 1: is that important to us, but like, is it really

1524
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 1: that fucking important if all the movies are good, I'm

1525
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 1: okay if they dropped some bad video game movies after this.

1526
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,679
Speaker 1: I enjoyed that Mario Brothers movie, and I think that's fine.

1527
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 1: It's not really supposed to it's not supposed to be

1528
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:56,640
Speaker 1: a tenth pole of our life in a way that

1529
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 1: makes us worried. I do this when I go on NERD.

1530
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 1: I was all the time when I'm a guest, and

1531
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 1: this is And now that I've said it, people listening,

1532
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 1: you won't be able to unhear it either. Listen to

1533
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 1: how many Nerve shows are just about people with anxiety,

1534
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 1: because they'll be like, I'm worried about Star Wars and

1535
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, why are you I'm worried about real world wars. Okay,

1536
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 1: I'm worried about the Afghanistan wars. Like these aren't real

1537
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 1: problems really, you know, in that type of way. But

1538
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:32,679
Speaker 1: like I think it's just our anxiety needs a place

1539
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 1: to go, and it goes to the thing we're absorbed

1540
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 1: with the most, which is at this moment probably entertainment.

1541
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. This kind of like this

1542
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 1: article made me just I just laughed because I was like,

1543
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 1: we've kind of lost the plot here, no pun intended, rod.

1544
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 5: If I may say, that's a point well made, and

1545
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 5: I think it's really funny, like the idea that I'm

1546
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 5: anxious about star wars and you're like, I'm anxious.

1547
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:01,759
Speaker 3: About real word real wars. That is a funny joke.

1548
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 5: You are, And I won't accept that you're not a comedian,

1549
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 5: a sit down podcast comedian.

1550
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 1: Yes like that.

1551
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 2: I like to sit down part because I don't stand.

1552
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, truly, the thing that you're saying like it's in

1553
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 5: a in a Buddhist paradigm like wherein uh there is

1554
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:30,599
Speaker 5: suffering is the first noble truth, and suffering the word

1555
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:34,680
Speaker 5: that gets translated as that sometimes gets translated as discomfort.

1556
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:37,599
Speaker 5: And even the things that are comfortable, even the things

1557
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 5: that are positive in our lives are a source of

1558
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 5: uh this discomfort because if something is positive, we worry

1559
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 5: about losing it. If something is negative, we worry about

1560
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 5: its impact. Will it be like that forever? Will it

1561
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 5: keep doing that? Like? And so I feel like this

1562
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 5: movie doing well when a good movie doing well is

1563
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:02,600
Speaker 5: a source of you know, negative, you know, of catastrophization.

1564
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 5: Like it's just sort of a manifestation of the way

1565
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 5: that humans are essentially.

1566
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 3: Maguivers of suffering. Does that make sense?

1567
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 5: He can he can take anything, be like, oh you

1568
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 5: want suffering, give me a piece of dental flaws in

1569
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:22,679
Speaker 5: a billion dollar movie and I'll give you.

1570
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 3: And I don't even need the dental flaws. I'm all

1571
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 3: out of gum.

1572
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 5: And this, this movie can be a source of anxiety.

1573
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 5: Ramen Naser is an artist comedy friend of mine who

1574
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 5: I love. He's done like some of my album and

1575
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:40,800
Speaker 5: podcast artwork, and he's wonderful Ramen Naser. And there's a

1576
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 5: piece of art that I have of his that I

1577
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:45,640
Speaker 5: think is hanging by my front door. And it's like

1578
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 5: two characters that are like kind of these just amorphous.

1579
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 3: You know beings.

1580
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 5: One of them is all black, completely dark, and then

1581
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:57,639
Speaker 5: the other one is like rainbow colored, and they're both

1582
01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 5: depressed and like one of the complete like you know,

1583
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 5: a black hole. One is like uh and of course

1584
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 5: not in an African American black kind of way, but

1585
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 5: in a I'm picking up now, a deep dark depression

1586
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:16,120
Speaker 5: kind of way. That one's like, oh no, like what

1587
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:18,920
Speaker 5: if this is forever? And you know, things are bad?

1588
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 5: What if it's forever? And the rainbow one, the positive one,

1589
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 5: is like, oh no, what if this doesn't last? Yeah,

1590
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 5: you know, And that's that's kind of you know, most.

1591
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 1: I find because whenever I'm invited on like a Nerved

1592
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 1: show or whatever, I hope I'm not their annoyance, you know,

1593
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 1: because I'm the one who's like, yeah, but guys, Star

1594
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 1: Wars movie, right, like we're gonna be fine no matter

1595
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:47,720
Speaker 1: what happened, Like it's Cobady all right, right, Like you know,

1596
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 1: they're like what about you know, Like I remember one

1597
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 1: time I was on a show and SOE soone was like, well,

1598
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 1: what if my grandma wants to watch this movie and

1599
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 1: she doesn't have Disney Plus, so then she watches this

1600
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 1: movie and she hasn't watched the Disney series based on

1601
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 1: the movie, and so she doesn't have all the backstory.

1602
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:10,680
Speaker 1: So I feel like they're kind of asking a lot

1603
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 1: of us. And I just was like, can't you just

1604
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 1: give your mom your Disney Plus password or something like

1605
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 1: how we've created a problem that we have a solution to,

1606
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 1: because what I think is having the problem is the

1607
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 1: thing that I think people are tied to now. And

1608
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 1: I think that's even tongue in cheek wise. That's kind

1609
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 1: of what this review reminded me of is like our

1610
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 1: culture is very much like I'm having a good time.

1611
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 1: How is this a problem? Let me tell you?

1612
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:45,720
Speaker 3: Can I say this?

1613
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:48,720
Speaker 5: I think I've been in your position on shows as

1614
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:51,640
Speaker 5: well that you know, trying to contextualize. I remember in

1615
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:55,679
Speaker 5: high school, like there was a discussion about like raising

1616
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 5: funds to have like lights on the football field so

1617
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 5: people could, you know, play football games at night. And

1618
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:03,400
Speaker 5: I'm like, can I just take the money and like

1619
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 5: feed people with it, which is not the exact same thing,

1620
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 5: And They're like.

1621
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:10,800
Speaker 3: No, this is like this is football money, not not

1622
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 3: food money.

1623
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:15,679
Speaker 5: But but like I think that I think that there's

1624
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 5: like when there's context it's important, like you go on

1625
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 5: the you go on these shows, if it really seems

1626
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:26,640
Speaker 5: like they're they're actually like, you know, anxious their anxiety.

1627
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 3: They're like, you know, uh, what is it?

1628
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 5: Clinical anxiety is you know, manifest It'll manifest in whatever way,

1629
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 5: like you said, like it'll be this or that, and

1630
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 5: like therapy is the answer to that, you know, like

1631
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 5: your your point, you know, whack them molling down, be like,

1632
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 5: oh no, this will be okay, but real war is

1633
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 5: the problem. But so I do think it's like number one,

1634
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:49,679
Speaker 5: a funny thing to say to be like to be like, hey,

1635
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 5: zooming out, like.

1636
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 3: Isn't it isn't this silly? And and then hopefully.

1637
01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 5: If people can see that, then you can be like, Okay,

1638
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 5: now that we see that, then we can zoom back

1639
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 5: in and be like okay, in the world in which

1640
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:06,799
Speaker 5: we understand that this is silly, Like.

1641
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 3: Then what are we what are we gonna do about?

1642
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 1: Because I think like what's funny for what's fun for

1643
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 1: me is always observing that these things were meant for fun, right,

1644
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 1: And then that's how I have fun within talking about

1645
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 1: them is because even when something's bad or you don't

1646
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 1: like it, you can still go. Ultimately, these are grown

1647
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 1: ass people playing make believe and we're just having fun

1648
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 1: watching them. Yes, So, like, am I worried the Avengers

1649
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:41,599
Speaker 1: next movie won't be great? Not really, because contextually things

1650
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:44,599
Speaker 1: that worry me are to me much more serious than that.

1651
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 1: But in the world of making movies, sure you can

1652
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 1: be worried about it. But I think there's an attachment

1653
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 1: to worry that people have, and I try to divorce

1654
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 1: myself from it in general, because I feel like it

1655
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 1: doesn't worry. Typically, is energy going to something you can't

1656
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:06,799
Speaker 1: Either you can't do anything about it at the moment

1657
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:10,599
Speaker 1: because it's already passed and you can't change the past,

1658
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 1: or it's gonna happen in the future, and it would

1659
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 1: be more productive to do something in the present if

1660
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 1: you want to change the future. But these things are

1661
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 1: out of our hands when we talk about creative products.

1662
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:25,719
Speaker 1: So it feels like the kind of thing I wouldn't

1663
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:28,639
Speaker 1: want it to get attached. I don't want my anxiety

1664
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 1: attached to it because I'm like, it's so out of

1665
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 1: my control, Like I'd rather have my anxiety attached to

1666
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 1: like my credit score or something that like something that

1667
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 1: I like, even in those cases, by the way, something

1668
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:43,640
Speaker 1: gonna happen you can't control, but like I'd rather have

1669
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 1: it attached to something I feel is a little bit

1670
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 1: more tangible to me, you know, like, Oh, if I

1671
01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:50,639
Speaker 1: would like to lose weight, I can eat less calories

1672
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 1: to day and one one day down the road, if

1673
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 1: I do this enough days, I will have lost weight,

1674
01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 1: as opposed to like I can wish and hope all

1675
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 1: I want to. I can't make the next Star Wars

1676
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 1: movie great. That has nothing to do with me.

1677
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 5: I love it, and can I can I tell you

1678
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 5: this new album that I released has this joke on

1679
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 5: it that is about It's about Buddhism and how in

1680
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 5: Buddhism they say everything in your life is either something

1681
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 5: that you can control or something that you can't control. Right,

1682
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 5: You either can't control something or you can't control something,

1683
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 5: And they say, if you can't control something, don't worry

1684
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 5: about it because you can't control it. And if you

1685
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:33,639
Speaker 5: can control something, they say, don't worry about it because

1686
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 5: you can control it.

1687
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:39,080
Speaker 3: So there's actually never anything in life to worry about.

1688
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 5: And if that doesn't make complete sense, then don't worry

1689
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 5: about it.

1690
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 3: That's so I.

1691
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:50,919
Speaker 5: Don't mean to step on you stepped on my punchline

1692
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 5: with laughter and that's not loud. But like what you're

1693
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 5: saying makes complete sense because we in the moment.

1694
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:01,639
Speaker 3: But here's a do you remember.

1695
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 5: I feel like this is like a practice that's valuable

1696
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 5: from like some different spiritual and practical like walks of life.

1697
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 5: Like one year ago, what was the thing you were

1698
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 5: most worried about, like that day on this day that year,

1699
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 5: Like it's we can't do it, we can't be like

1700
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 5: three weeks ago. Like there's always something that you know

1701
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:23,640
Speaker 5: is like of the most concern to us, Like for

1702
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 5: us right now, it may be the move or like

1703
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 5: you know, figuring out where we're gonna stay, or when

1704
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 5: I have to be in the UK? Do I have

1705
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 5: I have to rent a car and figure out how

1706
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:35,320
Speaker 5: to drive on the other side of the road. I

1707
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 5: like that we call it the wrong side of the road.

1708
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:42,879
Speaker 5: Let's start saying the other but we just watch off. Yeah,

1709
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:48,800
Speaker 5: but day, I'm sorry. I I was gonna keep I

1710
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 5: was gonna.

1711
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 3: Steam roll that. But there we are. Thank you for that, uh,

1712
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:53,840
Speaker 3: that rubber chicken.

1713
01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 5: The the fact that like we that right now, the

1714
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 5: thing that is like and there are big things like

1715
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 5: my mom essentially got from like either der Abbey or Annlanders,

1716
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:07,879
Speaker 5: like that, some problems are a lump in the oatmeal,

1717
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:09,920
Speaker 5: and other problems are a lump.

1718
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:12,559
Speaker 3: In the breast. And like, you know, when you have.

1719
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:15,720
Speaker 5: A problem that rises to lump in the breast, then

1720
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 5: you're like, oh wow, I can't believe all the times

1721
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,880
Speaker 5: that I was concerned with lump in the oatmeal. Stuff

1722
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 5: like war lump like even larger perhaps than lump in

1723
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:27,640
Speaker 5: the breast, collective massive, you know, society wide lump in

1724
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 5: the breast, and but lump so many things on a

1725
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 5: daily basis are our own individual Like it's where I

1726
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 5: feel like I'm grateful whenever I realize that, you know,

1727
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 5: like I stub my toe and I'm like, ah, well

1728
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:40,720
Speaker 5: that's the problem I'm dealing with now, Like that's a

1729
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 5: manageable problem. That's a concern that I can deal with,

1730
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 5: And yeah, it makes complete sense to think about the

1731
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 5: things that we can control.

1732
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:52,679
Speaker 1: A thing that I've made a video to day, haven't

1733
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:55,599
Speaker 1: actually uploaded anywhere, but I was at the basketball court

1734
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 1: because I've just been going to the gym shooting around,

1735
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 1: maybe do the track or something like that. Since I've

1736
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 1: been back home and I have I can have a

1737
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:08,639
Speaker 1: routine again, you know. And so I was in there

1738
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 1: and I realized something like one, I had these new

1739
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 1: basketball shoes that I bought, and they were too tight,

1740
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 1: and so the last time I went to shoot around,

1741
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:20,719
Speaker 1: I literally could only shoot around like five ten minutes,

1742
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 1: and my feet were hurting so bad. I was just like,

1743
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:24,719
Speaker 1: oh my god, I don't even know how I'm gonna

1744
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:27,559
Speaker 1: wear these shoes home to drive. Who was I that

1745
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:30,639
Speaker 1: left the house thicking I could do this? And so

1746
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:33,360
Speaker 1: I went on Amazon and I bought something that stretches

1747
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 1: your shoes and you just like insert it and you

1748
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 1: can like turn it and it stretches the shoes. The

1749
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 1: other thing is my basketball. It's been a couple of

1750
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 1: years in the pandemic, I haven't been going to the

1751
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:45,640
Speaker 1: gym to play basketball because you know, I don't know,

1752
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:47,599
Speaker 1: if you guys heard, it was kind of dangerous, and

1753
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:54,080
Speaker 1: so I, uh, my basketball deflated. It would slowly deflate.

1754
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 1: This is like a couple of years ago. It was

1755
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 1: like not like I could actually play basketball with it

1756
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:02,000
Speaker 1: at the court, and then the overnight it would kind

1757
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 1: of deflate a little bit. And so every time I

1758
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 1: played basketball, I had to pump it up with a

1759
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:08,559
Speaker 1: little mini pump I had and stuff, And so I

1760
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:11,000
Speaker 1: looked on Amazon and there was like, hey, this isn't

1761
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 1: an app for Amazon, but there was a uh, some

1762
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:17,519
Speaker 1: type of ceiling you could buy specifically for a back,

1763
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:19,600
Speaker 1: like a basketball or a flat ball that has a

1764
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:21,439
Speaker 1: flat in and you just put it in you you

1765
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:23,600
Speaker 1: pump it up and then you dribble it, you know,

1766
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:26,720
Speaker 1: bounce it around for a while and then it seals it.

1767
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:30,080
Speaker 1: And so I got some of that stuff, and last

1768
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 1: time I shot around, I like dribbled the ball a

1769
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 1: long time and like this morning, the ball was still inflated,

1770
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 1: no leak earing that stuff. My shoes I put on.

1771
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 1: My shoes had like room in them and stuff. And

1772
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 1: the video I made was like every problem somebody's had

1773
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:50,599
Speaker 1: it before you. Yeah, you don't really think about it everybody.

1774
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 1: You may not have had it right, you may not

1775
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 1: have had the problem yet. So to you, it's this

1776
01:30:56,320 --> 01:31:00,040
Speaker 1: brand new thing, this concept. You weren't like whatever, and

1777
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 1: this is just a basketball on some shoes. But to

1778
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 1: me these were like how the fuck, I'm just gonna

1779
01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 1: have to pump this basketball up every day? I guess

1780
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:09,840
Speaker 1: I have to throw my shoes away. You know this,

1781
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:11,840
Speaker 1: this is what I was thinking. And I was like

1782
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:15,599
Speaker 1: someone else in the world has been like, I don't

1783
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:18,080
Speaker 1: want to throw these shoes away. I would like my

1784
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:22,639
Speaker 1: shoes to fit on my feet bigger, and it was like, so, anyway,

1785
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 1: my point being is the times that I spent worried

1786
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 1: about the basketball, or the times that I spent worried

1787
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:32,439
Speaker 1: about the shoes or whatever, it was more proactive to

1788
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:36,679
Speaker 1: look for solution and then use that solution to like

1789
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:40,719
Speaker 1: make the things more accommodating to me. And so now

1790
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:43,639
Speaker 1: I still have my basketball because it's my favorite basketball.

1791
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:45,720
Speaker 1: I still have my favorite basketball, and I have these

1792
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:49,400
Speaker 1: new shoes I can wear. And it's the worrying part

1793
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:53,800
Speaker 1: was was I didn't. Next time, I can avoid the

1794
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:55,879
Speaker 1: wearying part kind of thing, you know what I mean.

1795
01:31:56,000 --> 01:32:00,640
Speaker 4: Like everybody, yeah kind of goes through this is in

1796
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 4: their own way, and roger kind of joking about it.

1797
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:07,680
Speaker 2: But I kind of get panic.

1798
01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:11,920
Speaker 4: And worry worry when it comes to like technology stuff.

1799
01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:15,759
Speaker 4: And so you know, Rogerica asks me to do something

1800
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:18,160
Speaker 4: and I'll panic and I'll just unplug shit, and he's like,

1801
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 4: I didn't actually do any of that. You actually makeing

1802
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 4: a situation worse, which actually makes me worry more.

1803
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:31,200
Speaker 5: That's funny, you know, Like I truly think the things

1804
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:33,960
Speaker 5: that we there's so many things that come up that

1805
01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:36,840
Speaker 5: we didn't worry about because we didn't even know, Like

1806
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:40,439
Speaker 5: most of us didn't know that there was going to

1807
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:42,920
Speaker 5: be a pandemic until.

1808
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:45,480
Speaker 3: Very shortly before or during the pandemic.

1809
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:48,000
Speaker 5: Like you know, there were people in the government that

1810
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:50,680
Speaker 5: had previously been like, yeah, let's just in case there

1811
01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:53,960
Speaker 5: is a pandemic, we'll be ready for it, but not

1812
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:56,320
Speaker 5: exactly you know, everybody there either.

1813
01:32:56,840 --> 01:33:01,040
Speaker 3: But like I also I had years.

1814
01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:04,360
Speaker 5: Ago before my current relationship, there was a time when

1815
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:09,200
Speaker 5: there were I remember I was sort of between I

1816
01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 5: was I cared for a couple of different people, and

1817
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:15,840
Speaker 5: I was like not sure what world, like how the

1818
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:18,760
Speaker 5: world was going to be, and it felt very like dramatic.

1819
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:22,040
Speaker 5: And I remember like being on the phone with my

1820
01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:24,800
Speaker 5: friend Zach and being like, oh my god, like I

1821
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 5: don't know, and like eventually like we were remembering this

1822
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:31,439
Speaker 5: time later, like during my current relationship, which has been

1823
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:34,680
Speaker 5: going on for about seven years now, and you know,

1824
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:37,800
Speaker 5: seven going on infinity Like this is the one that's

1825
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:40,479
Speaker 5: going to keep happening even beyond death. We're going to

1826
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:41,880
Speaker 5: try not to die, but if we do, we're gonna

1827
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:45,400
Speaker 5: keep going. And like I like, I think, you know, marriages,

1828
01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:47,160
Speaker 5: they're always like till death do you part. We're like,

1829
01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 5: beyond death, we are a part. And I remember we

1830
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:55,639
Speaker 5: were like rehashing, Like remember the time when I was like, Man,

1831
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 5: is it going to be person A?

1832
01:33:57,720 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 3: Or is it going to be person B? And I

1833
01:33:59,439 --> 01:34:01,600
Speaker 3: was like, oh God, what is it gonna be? And

1834
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:04,280
Speaker 3: then I run Zach and or I think Zach and

1835
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:05,400
Speaker 3: Reenie my girlfriend.

1836
01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 5: Now we're both kind of like yeah, And you didn't

1837
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:10,960
Speaker 5: even at that time know about option the best like

1838
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:13,400
Speaker 5: you did. You hadn't even met the person that you

1839
01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:16,280
Speaker 5: were going to be with and want to spend your

1840
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:17,800
Speaker 5: entire life.

1841
01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:20,400
Speaker 3: With at that time that you were trying to be like,

1842
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:21,519
Speaker 3: oh that is it?

1843
01:34:22,479 --> 01:34:22,840
Speaker 2: Is it?

1844
01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:26,320
Speaker 5: And so that's so much of us all of the time,

1845
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:29,679
Speaker 5: like we don't know, like we of the of the

1846
01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:32,640
Speaker 5: oatmeal lumps like which ones we're not going to be

1847
01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:36,840
Speaker 5: worried about tomorrow or next week or next year for sure,

1848
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:39,639
Speaker 5: And you know, all we can do is hopefully work

1849
01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 5: on you know, work on the massive societal breast lumps.

1850
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:47,479
Speaker 1: And I'm and I also remember like back when you

1851
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:52,280
Speaker 1: were like you had open relationship and like you were

1852
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:55,679
Speaker 1: doing in like polyamoring and stuff, but you were also

1853
01:34:55,880 --> 01:35:02,400
Speaker 1: like so like confident and assertive and like uh. And

1854
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 1: to this day, I still feel like a good representative

1855
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:08,120
Speaker 1: of like this alternative to what a lot of people

1856
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:10,920
Speaker 1: consider like you have to do or whatever. You know,

1857
01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:13,880
Speaker 1: like I was told this is what to do when

1858
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:15,800
Speaker 1: I was a kid, and this is what you do.

1859
01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 1: You get with one person and you get a house

1860
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:20,640
Speaker 1: or whatever, and they never stop to ask like do

1861
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:22,800
Speaker 1: I have to do? I want to you know, and

1862
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 1: all that stuff. And it's interesting because then when you

1863
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:32,120
Speaker 1: got with Reenie and it's a close relationship because y'all

1864
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:33,839
Speaker 1: very closed with each other.

1865
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:40,160
Speaker 3: And close close closer, they're very close.

1866
01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of room in these apartments in

1867
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:45,840
Speaker 1: New York, got no But now it's like this, it's

1868
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:48,720
Speaker 1: like you know what people on the outside consider like

1869
01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 1: a traditional, you know, type of relationship. But I think

1870
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 1: because you didn't like express or put a lot of

1871
01:35:57,120 --> 01:35:59,479
Speaker 1: like worry about it or a lot of fretting out

1872
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:02,360
Speaker 1: to be about it, you kind of say, it felt

1873
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:04,479
Speaker 1: like to me on the outside looking in, it felt

1874
01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:08,400
Speaker 1: like you saved a lot of worry to me, like

1875
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 1: like now hearing that you're there was a time where

1876
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 1: you're like, man, I was really worried about this or

1877
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this. But at least on the

1878
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:17,439
Speaker 1: outside looking in, it's like, man, I feel like you

1879
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:19,599
Speaker 1: kind of navigated that in a way. The word when

1880
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 1: you showed up, uh, not showed up, but when as

1881
01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:25,439
Speaker 1: you navigated this and you're like, yep, I'm reading now

1882
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:27,840
Speaker 1: and this is the situation. There's never a point where

1883
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:30,080
Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, that's not what the situation

1884
01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:33,000
Speaker 1: used to be. I was just like, it's like, oh yeah, yeah,

1885
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:35,120
Speaker 1: that was really there's nothing to worry about. You sound

1886
01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:38,880
Speaker 1: just as confident as in Forever and after Death as

1887
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:43,559
Speaker 1: you did when it was you know, you know, more

1888
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:46,320
Speaker 1: of a poly situation. So I think there's a lesson

1889
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:46,920
Speaker 1: to that too.

1890
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:49,040
Speaker 3: Oh thank you. Yeah.

1891
01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:52,600
Speaker 5: I mean really, here's a weird analogy that I'm going

1892
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:56,559
Speaker 5: to try to make sound reasonable. Uh, you know how

1893
01:36:56,640 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 5: like feminism made it possible, like it used to be

1894
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:03,799
Speaker 5: that women couldn't work and women had to stay home,

1895
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:09,040
Speaker 5: and eventually like feminists and the feminist movement made it

1896
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:12,639
Speaker 5: possible that women could work, and now women could.

1897
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:14,240
Speaker 3: Now now women have the choice.

1898
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:17,320
Speaker 5: Women can choose to work if they want or if

1899
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:20,400
Speaker 5: they're in a relationship like let's say a lesbian relationship

1900
01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 5: where one person makes makes the money and the other

1901
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:26,120
Speaker 5: person is like, I'm happy to stay home and take

1902
01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:27,920
Speaker 5: care of the house and take care of the kids,

1903
01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:30,639
Speaker 5: and like that's not a normative, you know, like if

1904
01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:32,640
Speaker 5: you zoom in, you're like, oh, a woman taking care

1905
01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:35,160
Speaker 5: of the kids while a woman is out paying the bills, Like,

1906
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:36,599
Speaker 5: so you can.

1907
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:39,000
Speaker 3: Having the choice is the thing.

1908
01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:41,639
Speaker 5: And for me, when I was in open relationships, when

1909
01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:44,840
Speaker 5: I like resonated with polyamory and wanted to live that way,

1910
01:37:45,320 --> 01:37:48,960
Speaker 5: part of it was because I wanted to have the

1911
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:53,160
Speaker 5: choice to live how I wanted to. And now I'm like,

1912
01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:57,000
Speaker 5: I'm like a feminist choosing, Like I'm like, this is

1913
01:37:57,080 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 5: the home that I want to live in. I want

1914
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:03,320
Speaker 5: to keep this home, this relationship, this part, this life

1915
01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:07,320
Speaker 5: with my with my wonderful girlfriend, with my partner Rene,

1916
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:10,360
Speaker 5: Like this is why I wanted to be I wanted

1917
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:13,879
Speaker 5: to be open to find the love that I wanted

1918
01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:17,519
Speaker 5: that I thought might come in you know, multiple forms

1919
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 5: or multiple relationships over the course of years, which it

1920
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:23,360
Speaker 5: did for a while, coming multiple relationships over the course

1921
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:28,200
Speaker 5: of years, some simultaneous, some you know, uh, one after another.

1922
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 5: But I'm like, oh, now this is this is the

1923
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:33,280
Speaker 5: one that fills, you know, and like I still have like,

1924
01:38:33,320 --> 01:38:37,559
Speaker 5: of course, many platonic friendships, many wonderful, dear friends who

1925
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Speaker 5: I love that I feel like I'm polyplatonic now, you know,

1926
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Speaker 5: I kind of always have been and that but that

1927
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Speaker 5: is that fills if there was a need for like because.

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Speaker 3: You know, no no person for.

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Speaker 5: The most part, there is no person for whom one

1930
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Speaker 5: person fulfills.

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Speaker 3: All of your every kind of need.

1932
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Speaker 5: Like you know, you're in a relationship, you're in a marriage,

1933
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Speaker 5: and also you have friends, like you know, I don't know,

1934
01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:05,640
Speaker 5: I don't know if y'all to play basketball together or

1935
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:08,599
Speaker 5: if Rod's like I'm gonna go play basketball with other people.

1936
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Speaker 5: And Karen, you probably have some things that you do

1937
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:13,400
Speaker 5: without Rod. I have some things that I do on

1938
01:39:13,439 --> 01:39:15,439
Speaker 5: my own or with other friends. Rini has things that

1939
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:18,400
Speaker 5: she does on her own or with other friends. And

1940
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Speaker 5: it's just I mean, we figured out like what works

1941
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Speaker 5: for us and it's sort of like the way that

1942
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:26,720
Speaker 5: you know, everyone gets to determine like your own Like

1943
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:28,360
Speaker 5: we're all kind of like living.

1944
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Speaker 3: Our own religion.

1945
01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:32,280
Speaker 5: You know, we're all kind of living our own you know,

1946
01:39:32,479 --> 01:39:35,120
Speaker 5: to go back to the parlance of earlier, like our

1947
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Speaker 5: own identity.

1948
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Speaker 3: We all get to.

1949
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Speaker 5: Like describe our lives how they are internally and how

1950
01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:44,920
Speaker 5: they manifest externally. And well, you know, what was true

1951
01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:49,040
Speaker 5: on Monday that I wanted multiple relationships like is no

1952
01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:52,599
Speaker 5: longer true on Wednesday because of what happened on Tuesday.

1953
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:55,240
Speaker 5: And what happened on Tuesday is I met and got

1954
01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:58,280
Speaker 5: to know and discovered like how deep and rich and

1955
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:00,840
Speaker 5: you know, multifaceted.

1956
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Speaker 3: Being with this one human being is.

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Speaker 5: It's also pretty beautiful that we are recording this now

1958
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Speaker 5: on a Tuesday.

1959
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Speaker 3: So that's what happened on Tuesday.

1960
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Speaker 1: Is Wednesday, with a lot of people's lives are going

1961
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:16,320
Speaker 1: to be changed. Well, listen, this has been so fun.

1962
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Speaker 1: I think we can sum this all up and uh,

1963
01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:25,000
Speaker 1: don't worry, be no mad, you know, I think that

1964
01:40:25,479 --> 01:40:29,400
Speaker 1: sums up to most of the our no mad, be

1965
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:31,040
Speaker 1: no mad everybody.

1966
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Speaker 4: And don't worry about the lump and your oat meal

1967
01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:34,479
Speaker 4: every time I eat oatmeal.

1968
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna think about that.

1969
01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:39,599
Speaker 1: Mike, can you tell people about the new stand up

1970
01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:41,160
Speaker 1: album and where to find you?

1971
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:43,120
Speaker 3: Thank you so much so.

1972
01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:48,320
Speaker 5: The newest widely released album is called Live in Between

1973
01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:50,880
Speaker 5: Albums and it is on you know, all of the

1974
01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:55,360
Speaker 5: places that you can download, stream or otherwise purchase. H

1975
01:40:55,560 --> 01:40:57,920
Speaker 5: It was produced by the same folks who produced my

1976
01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:02,080
Speaker 5: last album, Akah Blonde Medicine, so it's on their site,

1977
01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:03,759
Speaker 5: it's on Spotify, it's on Apple Music.

1978
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:06,760
Speaker 3: Whichever evil corporation you want to support, you can do that.

1979
01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:12,439
Speaker 5: And I called it Live in Between Albums because I

1980
01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:16,160
Speaker 5: recorded an album in twenty sixteen No Kidding about how

1981
01:41:16,160 --> 01:41:18,439
Speaker 5: I didn't want kids. I released an album in twenty

1982
01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:21,720
Speaker 5: twenty aka Short for All Killing Aside about how I

1983
01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:24,400
Speaker 5: don't want I want rather to be love and compassionate,

1984
01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:25,000
Speaker 5: not murdering.

1985
01:41:25,120 --> 01:41:28,160
Speaker 3: So the two themes together are I don't want.

1986
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:29,800
Speaker 5: To make more people, and I also don't want to

1987
01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:31,840
Speaker 5: remove any of the old people, so you want like

1988
01:41:31,880 --> 01:41:35,280
Speaker 5: the same amount of people. But I still so, I

1989
01:41:35,439 --> 01:41:37,880
Speaker 5: really liked doing these themed albums, and I also found

1990
01:41:37,880 --> 01:41:39,320
Speaker 5: that I was still writing a lot of jokes that

1991
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 5: didn't fit with either of the themes, and I wanted

1992
01:41:42,120 --> 01:41:46,360
Speaker 5: to share those jokes, so in twenty eighteen, we released

1993
01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:49,960
Speaker 5: very narrowly just to satellite radio this album, so it

1994
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:52,960
Speaker 5: was only playing on satellite radio for the past several years,

1995
01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:55,240
Speaker 5: which is why it'll say that it came out in

1996
01:41:55,280 --> 01:41:59,240
Speaker 5: twenty eighteen, but it only last month has been widely

1997
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:01,759
Speaker 5: available every where live in between albums.

1998
01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:03,880
Speaker 3: A beautiful new cover by Ramen.

1999
01:42:03,680 --> 01:42:06,960
Speaker 5: Naser, and it's just full of full of fun, silly

2000
01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:11,559
Speaker 5: jokes that really are mostly like Evergreen, not topical, you

2001
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:13,439
Speaker 5: can enjoy at any point.

2002
01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:13,920
Speaker 3: I will say.

2003
01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:16,040
Speaker 5: The only thing that's not Evergreen about it is there's

2004
01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:20,160
Speaker 5: a track where I analyze the various Fast and Furious

2005
01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:22,840
Speaker 5: movie titles, and I didn't know how many there were

2006
01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:25,599
Speaker 5: going to be, so it only goes up to probably

2007
01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:28,839
Speaker 5: six or seven. It certainly doesn't get up to Hobbs

2008
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:32,479
Speaker 5: and Shaw and nine and ten, but you know they'll be.

2009
01:42:32,520 --> 01:42:35,360
Speaker 5: There'll be future albums where I'll get to I hope

2010
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:37,719
Speaker 5: that I hope that we never run out of Fast

2011
01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:40,280
Speaker 5: and Furious movies, and I hope that I never as

2012
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:42,120
Speaker 5: I don't as I hope that I don't die. I

2013
01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:46,120
Speaker 5: hope that I'll never stop releasing albums and albums live

2014
01:42:46,160 --> 01:42:49,160
Speaker 5: in between those albums. But yeah, so live in between

2015
01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:52,360
Speaker 5: albums is the name of the newest available one, and

2016
01:42:52,520 --> 01:42:53,519
Speaker 5: I hope you enjoy it.

2017
01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:56,240
Speaker 1: I do worry about the next Fast and Furious movie,

2018
01:42:56,280 --> 01:43:00,639
Speaker 1: you know, I'll just so upset. Was going to be good? No,

2019
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:03,560
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not worried about it.

2020
01:43:03,640 --> 01:43:07,000
Speaker 3: All that was. That was good acting. You're a good actor.

2021
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:12,400
Speaker 5: Adition to a comedian and activist, you have so many

2022
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:13,960
Speaker 5: fingers and so many.

2023
01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:16,320
Speaker 1: I like to call myself as well. I like to

2024
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:18,000
Speaker 1: call myself an activist. You know.

2025
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:21,879
Speaker 3: That's another example of you being a comedian.

2026
01:43:22,040 --> 01:43:22,559
Speaker 2: Look at that.

2027
01:43:22,840 --> 01:43:27,760
Speaker 5: Comedian slash activist. Thank you so much for having me

2028
01:43:27,960 --> 01:43:31,120
Speaker 5: as always and for everyone else to is listening and

2029
01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:34,599
Speaker 5: watching and supporting and and following the things that y'all

2030
01:43:34,600 --> 01:43:35,160
Speaker 5: do and I do.

2031
01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:38,240
Speaker 4: Yes, and Mike, before we let you go, are you

2032
01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:41,040
Speaker 4: going to be performing live anywhere? In case anybody want

2033
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:43,040
Speaker 4: to catch you live? You have any stand up and

2034
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:43,799
Speaker 4: make sure you.

2035
01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:47,760
Speaker 1: Do, man, I Mike, totally by coincidence, I went to

2036
01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:51,040
Speaker 1: see like Chris Lambers invited me to watch him do

2037
01:43:51,120 --> 01:43:55,000
Speaker 1: stand up at things Stick of Poland it was the

2038
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:57,679
Speaker 1: name of the show, and I didn't even know who

2039
01:43:57,680 --> 01:44:01,840
Speaker 1: the comedians were, and it's pole dancing and comedy and stuff.

2040
01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:04,880
Speaker 1: And then who comes in the door Mike Kathlin, and

2041
01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:08,320
Speaker 1: I was like, what the world is so big and

2042
01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:11,800
Speaker 1: so small at the same time, So like yeah, man,

2043
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:17,360
Speaker 1: and he killed it. Also like he killed it in

2044
01:44:17,400 --> 01:44:21,320
Speaker 1: a venue where I feel like people don't kind of

2045
01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:25,120
Speaker 1: know what to expect because it's like literal pole dancing

2046
01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:28,679
Speaker 1: and then a stand up comedian and then pole dancing,

2047
01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:33,160
Speaker 1: and so it was. He was he made like so

2048
01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:38,640
Speaker 1: many jokes and he's literally malimited, like like honestly got

2049
01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:41,559
Speaker 1: almost you don't have time to laugh because you're missing

2050
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 1: something as you're laughing. But it was but you can't

2051
01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:48,120
Speaker 1: help yourself because what you are catching makes you laugh.

2052
01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:49,800
Speaker 1: So then you're just like, I don't know if I

2053
01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:52,400
Speaker 1: missed the next great moment or not, but guess what,

2054
01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:54,639
Speaker 1: more moments are coming because he's never going to stop.

2055
01:44:55,160 --> 01:44:58,000
Speaker 3: More moments are coming. That's a good name. I like that.

2056
01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:00,120
Speaker 3: I thank you for the kind word.

2057
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 5: It was a pleasure to see you there and for

2058
01:45:02,920 --> 01:45:05,240
Speaker 5: you to have we both had a wonderful experience. I'm

2059
01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:08,160
Speaker 5: glad and yeah for people who want to have future

2060
01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:13,000
Speaker 5: wonderful experiences. The next place I go I will be.

2061
01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:17,439
Speaker 5: I'm doing shows around New York, you know, for the

2062
01:45:17,439 --> 01:45:20,080
Speaker 5: next week or two. If you're in the New York area,

2063
01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:23,200
Speaker 5: feel free to message me on whatever social media or

2064
01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:26,400
Speaker 5: email Mike Kaplan at Gmail, and I can tell you

2065
01:45:26,439 --> 01:45:28,320
Speaker 5: where those shows are. Some of them are on my website,

2066
01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:29,720
Speaker 5: but for some of the New York shows, they just

2067
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:33,000
Speaker 5: come up pretty quick. But yeah, you can check my

2068
01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:35,519
Speaker 5: social media. I'm at Mike Kaplan and I post a

2069
01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:37,760
Speaker 5: lot of shows there. I post them on my website.

2070
01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:40,160
Speaker 5: I will next be Reenie and I are going to

2071
01:45:40,160 --> 01:45:41,600
Speaker 5: take a trip to see your family, and I'm going

2072
01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:43,920
Speaker 5: to do some shows in Kansas City.

2073
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:44,439
Speaker 3: In early May.

2074
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:50,519
Speaker 5: Then I will be in West Virginia and Knoxville, Tennessee

2075
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:55,000
Speaker 5: in later May, and then in June, I will be

2076
01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:59,320
Speaker 5: in San Francisco and Los Angeles and surrounding areas there

2077
01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:02,320
Speaker 5: for a couple weeks. So a lot of shows in

2078
01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:05,880
Speaker 5: California in Junely.

2079
01:46:05,720 --> 01:46:06,880
Speaker 3: I didn't mean to say it like that.

2080
01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:07,639
Speaker 1: July.

2081
01:46:09,400 --> 01:46:10,960
Speaker 3: I started to say June, but I'm like, nope, I

2082
01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:13,240
Speaker 3: already did June. So I'll just keep going with June.

2083
01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:16,160
Speaker 3: Lie all right, that was a problem. Don't say it

2084
01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:17,240
Speaker 3: like that anybody.

2085
01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:23,040
Speaker 5: I'll be at the Arlington Cinema and Draft House in Arlington, Virginia,

2086
01:46:23,120 --> 01:46:26,040
Speaker 5: near DC, and then one of my favorite clubs, ACME

2087
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:29,240
Speaker 5: in Minneapolis, and then Reenie and I will be flying

2088
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:32,000
Speaker 5: to the UK. I'll do some shows in England, and

2089
01:46:32,040 --> 01:46:34,280
Speaker 5: then for all of August, if anyone is in or

2090
01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:37,639
Speaker 5: knows anyone who will be in Scotland, will be at

2091
01:46:37,640 --> 01:46:41,519
Speaker 5: the Edinburgh Fringefest doing my new Ship, my newest as

2092
01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:46,000
Speaker 5: yet unrecorded show so far imperfect, and so I'm gonna

2093
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:48,000
Speaker 5: be doing that a lot around Oh and I'll be

2094
01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:49,479
Speaker 5: doing it in New York is That's one of the

2095
01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:51,599
Speaker 5: things I'll be doing June first in New York in

2096
01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:55,240
Speaker 5: Brooklyn at Union Hall. So if you're in New York

2097
01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:57,559
Speaker 5: or any of the places that I mentioned, reach out

2098
01:46:57,600 --> 01:46:59,639
Speaker 5: to me, let me know that you heard me on here,

2099
01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:04,000
Speaker 5: and I will be happy to have you at these shows.

2100
01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:06,559
Speaker 5: And yeah, follow my social media and get if you

2101
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:09,920
Speaker 5: want my newsletter, it's Mike Kaplan dot Substack dot com

2102
01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:11,559
Speaker 5: is where you can sign up for that. I send

2103
01:47:11,720 --> 01:47:15,280
Speaker 5: jokes out every week and other thoughts, and you can

2104
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:17,760
Speaker 5: subscribe for free and get even more if you want.

2105
01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:21,360
Speaker 1: There you go, man, And you have podcasts and I

2106
01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:24,800
Speaker 1: mean he's a man of man of all trades, jack

2107
01:47:24,840 --> 01:47:28,720
Speaker 1: of all trades, and yeah, make sure you check them out.

2108
01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:31,320
Speaker 1: Make sure you follow the socials if you get a

2109
01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:33,599
Speaker 1: chance of guys from live, and don't forget to check

2110
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:34,880
Speaker 1: out the albums and all that stuff.

2111
01:47:35,640 --> 01:47:38,240
Speaker 5: Thank you, May I say real quick, I'd like I'd

2112
01:47:38,280 --> 01:47:39,120
Speaker 5: like to say that.

2113
01:47:39,400 --> 01:47:43,120
Speaker 3: I'm a master. I'm a jack of no trades and

2114
01:47:43,120 --> 01:47:43,920
Speaker 3: a master of.

2115
01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:53,439
Speaker 1: All Follow them, man, We'll be back tomorrow. And of course,

2116
01:47:53,640 --> 01:47:57,280
Speaker 1: uh you know, guys, don't worry, be no mass until

2117
01:47:57,320 --> 01:47:57,760
Speaker 1: next time.

2118
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Speaker 3: I love you, ah, I love you.