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Speaker 1: Hello, Texans had welcome. It's Texans All Access. Mark Van

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Speaker 1: Jermer with you Thursday night. They usually means John McLain

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Speaker 1: is with us, but the General is on the mend

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Speaker 1: after a fall. He's doing okay and we wish him

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Speaker 1: the very best. Our thoughts are with you, John McClain.

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Speaker 1: So who better to take over than John Harris on

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Speaker 1: Thursday night. Now, it's not like you're new to this thing,

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Speaker 1: but you know you're not usually on Thursday night. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm definitely not on Thursday. I'll leave that for the General. No, yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I I didn't know about John's fall until just yesterday,

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Speaker 1: so really I did not know. I had no idea

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Speaker 1: and had no idea what had happened. So obviously thoughts

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Speaker 1: out to the General and would hope that he's able

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Speaker 1: to get back. And you know, it's just not the

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Speaker 1: same without him here, and especially for you on Thursday

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Speaker 1: and radio, and that's gotta feel kind of weird. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna be on PUP, but not I r I think

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Speaker 1: just pop so season, Pup School, that training camp PUP

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Speaker 1: which you know number of Texans will be on it, well,

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Speaker 1: not a big number, I don't think. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: think too many. I mean from you know, DeShawn was

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Speaker 1: ending on Twitter yesterday and Drew walked down in the

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Speaker 1: studio at some point he said, Hey, why was the

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Speaker 1: Sean trending on Twitter earlier? And I was like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, I have no idea. And then we saw

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Speaker 1: a video of him doing the ropes, the little rope's

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Speaker 1: course and he was kind of swiveling hips, kind of

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Speaker 1: going through and it was like, he's ready. That's the

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Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Oh man, that's the kind of stuff

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Speaker 1: he was doing with Roland Ramirez right there and used

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Speaker 1: about THEIST Training Center after practice that I've been talking

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Speaker 1: about even more severe stuff that's like a real timing thing.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, if you can do that, I'm guessing your

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Speaker 1: knees are pretty good well to that end, I would

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Speaker 1: think that being able to play golf as JJ Watt

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Speaker 1: has done, he's a pretty pretty good indication that he's

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Speaker 1: pretty close to ready. So Witty was already cleared, Christian

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Speaker 1: was already cleared. DJ Reader was I want to say

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Speaker 1: he was in OTAs as well. He was cleared I

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Speaker 1: believe for OTAs. So the ones we really those two,

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Speaker 1: I would imagine Watt and Watson are now going to

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Speaker 1: be cleared. Hopefully everything's okay with j D and he's

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Speaker 1: ready to go. Uh, those would be the two that

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Speaker 1: we do have to worry about. JD and then Um

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Speaker 1: and then Deante Foreman. And I think Deante is you

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Speaker 1: know the ones you the one that always you know,

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Speaker 1: those are the ones we know about. Right. We'll get

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Speaker 1: that list the day before camp starts and it says

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Speaker 1: this guy's on pup and you're like, whoa, what happened

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Speaker 1: to this guy? Remember last year was Joel Heath. I

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Speaker 1: remember Joel going in like, oh wait a second, what happened?

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Speaker 1: What happened to Joel? When we get Joel back? And

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Speaker 1: so it just creates some questions, and you hope that's

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Speaker 1: not the case. You hope that if you see names

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Speaker 1: on there, there are guys that you knew had injuries.

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Speaker 1: I my guest is Martinez, ranking will probably start yep,

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing, and then my other guest is Deante Foreman.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully those the only couple of names that we see,

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Speaker 1: hopefully to know surprises like well, what's that guy? Never rank? Though, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what. I don't know what happened.

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Speaker 1: I know during the draft, the draft season. Can I

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Speaker 1: do we spell draft season as z N Do we

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Speaker 1: spell it that way? Uh? Draft isn't. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how much he did in the draft process because I

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Speaker 1: knew we got banged up at the end of the year.

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Speaker 1: But I was watching him. I said this, yes, yesterday,

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Speaker 1: Was like, I got really excited about what I think

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Speaker 1: he could do in an NFL offense playing tackle, and

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a really, really good player.

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Speaker 1: In the fact that we got him in a third round,

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Speaker 1: I think is a really good move. So well, we'll

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Speaker 1: find out. But that's that's the only thing I really

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Speaker 1: kind of hold my breath for, like who's gonna end

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Speaker 1: up on pup? Who's gonna end up on the pup

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Speaker 1: going into camp that we had no idea change within

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Speaker 1: all right, you're good to go. Let's go. All right,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you some questions here. In the next segment,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do TV Top fives and Top five television

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Speaker 1: football play by play announcers and color commentators, and we

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Speaker 1: might even throw in some sideline stuff like that if

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Speaker 1: we have time. TV Top fives in segment two being

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Speaker 1: the first segment of the program this evening, let's do this.

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Speaker 1: I have some position group questions for you, and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go on with the Mad Radio Guys morning show.

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Speaker 1: They have all these names for the shows these days,

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Speaker 1: all these names in the loop, the triple Threat. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I'm going on Mad Radio tomorrow morning, and I thought

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Speaker 1: i'd talk about this a little bit, but I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna feel it out here. But I do have

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Speaker 1: some questions. And we talked about the running back group,

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Speaker 1: because to me, the running back group, I am a

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Speaker 1: little iffy on without Deonte Foreman. If he can't go

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Speaker 1: week one, you know, I don't feel great about the depth.

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Speaker 1: I like Alfred Blue. I do like Lamar Miller and

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Speaker 1: awful lot, I really do. And I think that he

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Speaker 1: think he'll be very productive, or at least productive enough

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Speaker 1: definitely going, concerned able to you know, put some heat

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Speaker 1: of really good ones with New England and Tennessee. But

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Speaker 1: running back group, how you're feeling going into camp here?

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Speaker 1: Zuming Foreman is going to take a little bit of

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Speaker 1: tough because you don't know when Dante is coming back.

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Speaker 1: But here's the one thing I go back to, what

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Speaker 1: do you think sort of question back at you, what

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Speaker 1: do you think was the best offensive performance for this

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Speaker 1: team last year? Well? Tennessee? Right, Tennessee was pretty good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, so offensive performance better than New England, I

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Speaker 1: that was one game you don't really want to be

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Speaker 1: And I've seen him in the hallway and the last

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Speaker 1: time I saw him in a hallway is probably about

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Speaker 1: five six weeks ago. And when I saw him, I

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Speaker 1: went whoa, Like just body wise, I mean I couldn't

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Speaker 1: look down as Achilles and go, oh he's ready, He's not.

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Speaker 1: Can you do some cutting for me? Deante? Can you

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Speaker 1: start running around laterally? Body type? Wow? I mean just

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Speaker 1: a little bit who I was around uh in college. Naport,

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Speaker 1: It's a great that's a great one. And we just

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Speaker 1: Naj Davidport is exactly. But I think I think Foreman's

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Speaker 1: a better I think he's a better runner than Davidport.

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Speaker 1: But Davenport could do so much that Port, you know,

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Speaker 1: He did a lot of things once he got the NFL.

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Speaker 1: He played fullback, caught the ball very well out of

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Speaker 1: but he's got wheels. Yeah, And I think Foreman is

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Speaker 1: definitely along those lines. And again, you're coming back from

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Speaker 1: Achilles injury. So if you go into the if you

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Speaker 1: head into let's say you headed a training camp without him, Okay,

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Speaker 1: when you have an idea when you might be able

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Speaker 1: Lamar Miller, Alfred Blue, those two kind of leading the way.

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Speaker 1: Sure you could. Like I said, you've done it before.

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Speaker 1: You did it against Seattle, and I think you can

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Speaker 1: do it again. But you know, I actually I watched today.

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Speaker 1: or they would get they would just they would stretch

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Speaker 1: have that sort of depth, to be able to get

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Speaker 1: that's what the Patriots due too, right. I mean over

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Speaker 1: right before that, when you had Shane Vereen checking into

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Speaker 1: if Foreman's in the game, they're definitely gonna Well, no,

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Speaker 1: They could definitely do that. Alfred Blue You're probably not

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Speaker 1: catch a touchdown pass from Cecil Shorts, now a Texans ambassador.

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Speaker 1: So I guess there is some versatility there. As I'm

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Speaker 1: but you can be but you do have that option.

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Speaker 1: It's like this guy is seventy percent if he gets

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Speaker 1: the ball most likely to do this. Sent La Garret

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Speaker 1: Blunt when he was with the Eagles. Yeah, you gotta

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Speaker 1: I think about the seventies, seventies sports, to be a

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Speaker 1: baseball AFL. I mean, those are the things that I

427
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Speaker 1: think about, and I love. Those are two things that

428
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Speaker 1: I love. I love the AFL and then I love

429
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Speaker 1: I love seventies baseball, I mean, seventies baseball to me

430
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Speaker 1: is the perfect It was the decade for baseball for

431
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Speaker 1: there's something about it. Uniforms are starting to get colored, colorized.

432
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 1: There was a little bit more flavor in the game.

433
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,520
Speaker 1: You had the Big Red Machine, you had the A's dynasty,

434
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,639
Speaker 1: you had the Yankees coming back. And but you know

435
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 1: the irony of what you're saying right now is and

436
00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,399
Speaker 1: you're right, it exploded on tell of Vision. It's that

437
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 1: Yet all those cookie cutter stadiums like Riverfront, three Rivers,

438
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 1: and even the Astrodome was kind of that shape. Yeah,

439
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,360
Speaker 1: I know the Dome is a different kind of facility,

440
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,879
Speaker 1: but you get my drift. Multi use stadiums, yeah, multi

441
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 1: use stadiums. Oakland Athletics, Hey, wait a minute, they still

442
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 1: play there with the Raiders. I love the college such

443
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 1: a die. It's it's dripping water as you're coming out.

444
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 1: I mean it's I mean, it's it's a I loved

445
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 1: being in there because there's so much history in that place.

446
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 1: But and I love the old Raider guys walking around

447
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 1: like Flores walking. We'll get to we'll get to their

448
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 1: booth story just a moment here, So I would say

449
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 1: so Michael's and some are all those of the two.

450
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:43,119
Speaker 1: I think Tarco's very good. I talking about improving and Berg.

451
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 1: I think Joe Buck has gotten better and better and

452
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Speaker 1: better every year. I think Buck gets a bad rap

453
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Speaker 1: by a lot of people. He does, but he's so

454
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Speaker 1: easy to not like. I saw him. He's got some

455
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Speaker 1: interview I hate. I'm sorry that I don't know it offhand,

456
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 1: but he's got an interview show now, not the you know,

457
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 1: the HBO one failed, but he's got another show. And

458
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 1: I want to say it's on an obscure network, but

459
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 1: I might be wrong about that anyway. I saw him

460
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Speaker 1: interviewing John McEnroe, and I think mcinroe's really interesting. Joe Buck.

461
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Speaker 1: To me, he asked a lot of good questions, but

462
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Speaker 1: I don't think he's a great interviewer. You know, I

463
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,120
Speaker 1: wanted a lot of follow ups that he wasn't giving me.

464
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Speaker 1: But whatever, he's he's a really talented play by play man.

465
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,199
Speaker 1: I think he's standing in baseball. I still get the

466
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Speaker 1: vibe sometimes that do you really want to be here? Joe?

467
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Speaker 1: Do you really like football? You know? Some people accuse

468
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Speaker 1: Jim Nance of that. I don't think that's the case.

469
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Speaker 1: I just think that Nance's voice is so closely associated

470
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Speaker 1: with NC DOUAA, basketball and golf that when he does football,

471
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Speaker 1: it just doesn't seem like it's his thing. And I

472
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Speaker 1: think that's the I hate to call it a trap

473
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Speaker 1: that some of those guys get into, but yes, and

474
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Speaker 1: Vince Scully, you and I both are big fans of

475
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Speaker 1: the Twitter feed super seventy Sports, which is outstanding. I mean,

476
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Speaker 1: I'll I won't look for a while, I'll miss this

477
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Speaker 1: some tweets for a while, and I'll just scroll through

478
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Speaker 1: his feed and oh my gosh, I'm double hold over laughing.

479
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 1: And he, by the way, yeah, he loves it. It's

480
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: it's so good. I mean, I love seeing when he

481
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 1: just had one on Phil Garden the other day. Oh yeah,

482
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 1: that was it was really good. Maybe I think it

483
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: was earlier today. But the but Joe Buck as a

484
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Speaker 1: play by play man, I think he's I think he

485
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Speaker 1: saw it. I think it's a good one. Nance. It's

486
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: interesting because when you talk for as long as you

487
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Speaker 1: do during a game. I don't know how many how

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Speaker 1: often I've listened to Jim Nance, And maybe some of

489
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Speaker 1: this comes from basketball, and maybe some of it comes

490
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Speaker 1: from golf, but it just listening listening to him call

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Speaker 1: a game, it feels so clean. Yeah, it feels like

492
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 1: his his noun verb everything is perfect. It just everything

493
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 1: that he spoke noun verb agreement is so good. But

494
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 1: it's not obnoxiously perfect. It's not like Costa's perfect, which

495
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: is totally perfect. And part of it is we I

496
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 1: got to meet him that one time that he was here,

497
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Speaker 1: and he was so pleasant, and I've heard that for people.

498
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: He's such a nice guy, and so that that colors

499
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 1: it too, like, oh yeah, but he's good. He's really good.

500
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Speaker 1: He doesn't step on his words. There are no likes

501
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:13,479
Speaker 1: or your nose or us. He's just so clean when

502
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: he when he does a game. So I think I

503
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Speaker 1: think we'd have to think about putting nance in there

504
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 1: as well. And of course he's got ties to Houston,

505
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 1: going to Uvage. Some are all Michaels. I think nance

506
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Speaker 1: over buck. Yeah, I would say that. But dick Enberg

507
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: I thought was underrated, I think, and maybe properly rated

508
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Speaker 1: in his day. He's no longer with us, But dick Enberg,

509
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Speaker 1: Merlin Olson, they were I mean, they were the AFC guys.

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Speaker 1: They were the number one team on NBC which had

511
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Speaker 1: the AFC then, and it was such a big deal

512
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Speaker 1: when they called your game, they called a ton of

513
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Speaker 1: Oilers games. They called a ton of you know, Bengals

514
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 1: games when they were good in the eighties. Yeah, you know,

515
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: they were really adept for some reason. And this is

516
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Speaker 1: why I wouldn't put Enberg into five. But for some reason,

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Speaker 1: when you say Dick Enberg and Merlin Oilsen, you know

518
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Speaker 1: what I think about the Rose Bowl? Oh, because they

519
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 1: did that. They did the Rose Bowl and that wasn't

520
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Speaker 1: even their thing. I know, it wasn't even their thing,

521
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Speaker 1: but they did the Rose Bowl. They were so if

522
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Speaker 1: if you said, look, they're gonna have the new Rose

523
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Speaker 1: Bowl in the twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen Rose Bowl,

524
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Speaker 1: and you can have any group do it, I'm like,

525
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Speaker 1: I don't want Edenburg and Merlin and Bob Trumpy do

526
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Speaker 1: Oh they did the arm Orange Bowl. It was always

527
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Speaker 1: Enburg and Merlin Olsen doing the Rose Bowl, and then

528
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Speaker 1: it was it was Trump doing the Orange Bowl. And

529
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Speaker 1: then when they added the Fiesta Bowl, it was Charlie Jones.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh, I loved because he had AFL tie,

531
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Speaker 1: so he would do the Fiesta Bowl. And sometimes he

532
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Speaker 1: did with Todd Christensen. Sometimes he did with somebody else,

533
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: but I think I think it was Todd Christensen that

534
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Speaker 1: he did. He did it with. But I would associate

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Speaker 1: Mburg with the Rose Bowl more so than I would

536
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Speaker 1: with the NFL. Isn't that interesting? Even though it was

537
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Speaker 1: the number one guy, I think he was the number

538
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Speaker 1: two team, but Kricky and Trump yet though, it's always THEO.

539
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: So when I did a game with Trumpy, one playoff game.

540
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: It was the first NFL game I ever called. I'd

541
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Speaker 1: probably have told the story in the air, but I'll

542
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: tell it quickly. So I get called because Howard David

543
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: can't make it to this Dolphins Ravens playoff game at

544
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Speaker 1: Joe Robbie Stadium, Dan or whatever they called it that

545
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: it was in the early OOS. It was right before

546
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Speaker 1: I got the job here, but I didn't know I

547
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: was getting the job yet. So I was two thousand

548
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 1: and one season playoffs, very low scoring game, so I

549
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: just prepared that morning for it. Yea and Trumpy. The

550
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 1: thing that freaked me out more than anything is hearing

551
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Speaker 1: Bob Trumpy's voice in my headset. I had like basically

552
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: grown up listening to him, and he played in the League,

553
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: of course, and Trump he was amazing. I always liked him.

554
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: But I'm hearing he's smoking. First of all, in the booth. Wait,

555
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: hold on, he smokes. Okay, yeah, you're smoking. During the game.

556
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: He's smoking lighting the butt. Now, he'll hold his hand.

557
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 1: The windows are open, right, so he'll hold his hand

558
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 1: on the window frame, and the butt is kind of

559
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: out the window, in between his index finger and his

560
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,719
Speaker 1: middle finger, and they'll bring it in take a drag.

561
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: And when I was listening to the recording of the broadcast,

562
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: I would hear I'd hear the click of the lighter

563
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: when he was lighting up. He basically chained smoking because

564
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 1: that thing was going every ten minutes. Trumpy is chained

565
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: smoking during a playoff game. That's so awesome. Oh man,

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Speaker 1: I don't how do you do that. I don't know how.

567
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: I don't know how you do that. I mean, I

568
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 1: was just fantastic. But it's funny because I was nervous enough.

569
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Speaker 1: But I always say this about being nervous. If you're

570
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: not nervous, every once in a while, you're not living

571
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Speaker 1: leaf fullest. Usually when you get nervous, it means you're

572
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 1: doing something exciting, right, So I was a little nervous.

573
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Speaker 1: But when I heard his voice in my headset not

574
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Speaker 1: even seeing him because I was looking right at him,

575
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 1: but hearing the voice in my ears, was oh my gosh,

576
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: I'm doing a game with Bob Trumpy. This is blowing

577
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: my mind right now. Anyway, But he um. I liked

578
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: him on the air, and I liked him on the

579
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: air when he was with Krickey. You know, I'm doing

580
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: all those big games and we here at Cleveland me

581
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: in as a little stadium. This place is a dumb

582
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: They would actually say that. I thought. I thought Ricky

583
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: and Trumpy were were very good. I liked that's that's hilarious.

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00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: It's Michael's see al Michaels. I gotta give him his due.

585
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: The funny thing is, the greatest call he ever made

586
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 1: was for us a little bit cockey, a moment that

587
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: transcends everything, of course, But he's known as the football guy.

588
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: You know, Monday night football, you know when he was

589
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: and then Sunday night what he was. I mean, even

590
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: before he got into the NFL, he was the voice

591
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: of Monday night baseball, and he was he was outstanding.

592
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: Jim Palmer he was so good. I mean he McCarver

593
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 1: did that with Palmer, right, didn't they both do it together? Yeah?

594
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: They did, and maybe it was Palmer. Yeah, because the

595
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: NBC team was um Garisiola. Yes it was. It was

596
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,719
Speaker 1: Cricky and Garishiola, if I remember correctly, and didn't Scully

597
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: was Scully on NBC for a while before CBS got

598
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: it or something right in the late in the late eighties.

599
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: I believe, because I want to say that Vince Scully

600
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Speaker 1: was on a call for the eighty eight Dodgers championship.

601
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: Scully's another football guy, right, Scully's another He's a baseball guy,

602
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: but Scully's another guy who did football. Also, people don't

603
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: remember that in the eighty one NFC Championship game, the catch,

604
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: Scully did it. Scully was on the play by play

605
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,719
Speaker 1: on TV. Yeah, I want to say it was. It

606
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: was he and Hank Stram. It was Scully and Hankstram.

607
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: It's so funny how Scully did the Dodgers. So in

608
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: the baseball postseason, Jack Buck, Joe's father does the TV

609
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: call of Kirk Gibson. I don't believe what I just saw,

610
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: you know, the home run, but the Dodgers against the

611
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: Oakland A's. Scully's doing the radio call. It's Jack Bucks call.

612
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: That's the big call. Jack Buck's doing the national TV feed.

613
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. But it's so interesting how Jack Bock,

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00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: Saint Louis Cardinals announcer the national baseball Scully was doing

615
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: national Now it was years later, but not that long really,

616
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: just looks it felt longer at the time. How about analysts,

617
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: All right, let's go anna us. Now, Madden is the

618
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: all time greatest professional football analyst. I'm sorry, I just

619
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Speaker 1: can't give it to anybody else. He's iconic. He the game,

620
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: I think helps this, but he kind of made it

621
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Speaker 1: an art form. Yes, you know, before it was something that. Yeah,

622
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: it was necessary, and these guys were good, but I

623
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: think he made the analyst much more of a star

624
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: than the analyst ever was before. I agree. I agree.

625
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: Even even with Howard Sam started to intrunt. But even

626
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Speaker 1: Howard Cosell and Dandy Don Meredith, it wasn't quite like

627
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't call those guys are color commentators, but they're

628
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: not analysts. They're not one guy transforming the booth the

629
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Speaker 1: way Madden did. But they did certainly make their mark

630
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna go there. It was a little bit

631
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Speaker 1: theatrical with those guys. Yeah, and and for a good reason.

632
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Speaker 1: But Madden gave you. Madden gave you a little bit

633
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Speaker 1: of He gave you that vibe that you were standing

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Speaker 1: right next to him in a bar and you're why

635
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: in a game with him. And he didn't get into

636
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: too much football. Lease know, you're looking at twenty one

637
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: personnel and they're running the B gap right here. He

638
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: just he made it English. And then he would show

639
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: on the sideline the gatorade bath and he just duck in.

640
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: He had everything that you I would think want an analyst.

641
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: And when when some are all and Madden were calling

642
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Speaker 1: a game, I mean, you know, the biggest game you

643
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: could you didn't want anything else. Those guys separated themselves.

644
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: But I mentioned this. Cosell was not an analyst. He

645
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: was a commentator. But I'll put him in this category,

646
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: and I think he's number two. I just think that

647
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: you know, you talk about guys who made it an

648
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: art form. Cosell there was. And but he was an

649
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: announcer to ladies at Gentleman, you are watching a truly

650
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: remarkable I mean, he was just incredible. You'd get chills

651
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: the way he would announce something. Now, sometimes it became

652
00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: a parody of itself, right and eventually might have to

653
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: a detrimental point. I mean, how could it not if

654
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: you're saying what I'm just saying here. But I don't know.

655
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: I still think the way he delivers the lines makes

656
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: the moment bigger than it really is. Well, the other

657
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: thing about Cosell was, back in the heyday Monday Football,

658
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: there was no ESPN, so there's no way of seeing

659
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: what the other teams in the NFL were doing unless

660
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: you had the halftime highlights that he always did, and

661
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: he was. He was such a unique broadcaster who looked

662
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: at football and looked at the whole thing so differently

663
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: and delivered it so differently and was so unique in

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00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: that way. But the hard part for me is to

665
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: separate Cosell and Meredith. It's almost like Cosell and Mereth

666
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: have to be kind of almost one because they were

667
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: so good with each other that Danny Don could tell

668
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: you what was happening during the game, Cosell could look

669
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: at it from a unique angle, and together they ended

670
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: up up making incredible, incredible Monday Night football makes here, though,

671
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: so we could say Cosell slash Meredith. Yeah, okay, I

672
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: mean I think it's there. Give me another one because

673
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: we only have out like a minute left in this deal,

674
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Speaker 1: the current ones. You know, Chris Collinsworth, I know, I

675
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: don't I wired taste he really is. You don't always

676
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: want It's like it's kind of like eating at a

677
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: restaurant where the food's pretty good. Here it really is,

678
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: but I don't always want it. It's not like Maddness steak, right,

679
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: you know Cosell and Dandy don it was steak or

680
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: at least a great burger, like I want that. I'm

681
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: fries and it's like something I really want to order.

682
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,959
Speaker 1: Collinsworth I might enjoy. It, might be like really good fish,

683
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: but I don't really always want fish. You know the

684
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: thing about it, As much as I think as I

685
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: think about it, we've named how many play by play guys,

686
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: I mean bunch, but you don't name when you name

687
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: the analyst. You get to Madden and you talk about

688
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: the monight football guys, and then it's well, who are

689
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: the long running guys. Dierdorf was in there for a

690
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: long time, and I thought he was pretty good, but

691
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: he will never put him in that list. I thought

692
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: Fouts held it together when Dennis Miller was in the

693
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: booth because he needed an analyst. But he's not like

694
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: one of the Primo Primo, although I personally like him.

695
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: Romo is turning a lot of ears heads, if you will.

696
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: But it's one you're in. You just don't know. I

697
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: don't know how well it's gonna hold up. I mean,

698
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: Gruden's the other one. I mean, Gruden was I liked,

699
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: that was interesting to listen to. For sure. I liked him,

700
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't call him iconic. No, I don't think so.

701
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I think when you're talking about analysts, it's

702
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 1: Madden and then Cosell, Meredith and then kind of everybody else.

703
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: All right, sideline reporters next, and whatever else is happening

704
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Speaker 1: around the National Football League. It's Texans all Access, Mark Vandermayer,

705
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: John Harris with you, keeping your company, the General on

706
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: the men. We hope he certainly gets better, and we

707
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: know he will. We know he will. Yeah, the fall,

708
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: it's been all over social media. General, we love you,

709
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: get back soon from the Houston Chronicle. All right, So, Johnny,

710
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: we were talking about Top five TV football player by

711
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: play guys, top five TV football analysts. We didn't mention Aikman,

712
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: by the way, is he worth mentioning? You know what

713
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: bothers me about Akman and Buck? They kind of sound

714
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: the same to me. They have the same register that

715
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: speaks volumes of Aikman's really good voice. He's got good pipes.

716
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Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm like, wait a minutes that Akmen or Buck talking.

717
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: Oh it's Aikman. You know, you can almost not differentiate

718
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: them at times, especially on the flyer, when you're like

719
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: doing other stuff when they're doing the game, because like

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00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: when I'm watching games at home, Yeah, it's not like

721
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm studying every second of it. A

722
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: lot of the time I'm doing stuff, you know, because

723
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: we have our game. There's nothing more important than our

724
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 1: game to me. So often I'll be like doing other

725
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 1: things while I'm watching. Like a lot of people out there,

726
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: Troy's good. I don't get overly one way or the

727
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: other with Troy. I don't know that I I don't

728
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: know that I've learned a whole lot. At least with Gruden,

729
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: I would get something that maybe I wasn't thinking about okay,

730
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: but with Troy like, it's good, it's a it's a

731
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: solid broadcast, but I don't get overly Okay, yeah, girl

732
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: probably watching it a lot different thing. Yeah, exactly, And

733
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: that's what I was gonna say. I have to preface

734
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 1: it with they're gonna be some things that I know

735
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: that they're gonna say that sound to me sound very blase,

736
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: and even to you, to Andre to Uh, they're gonna

737
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: sound blase like Okay, yeah, we get that, but that's

738
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: some fans are gonna be like, oh, I didn't know.

739
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: I think it delivers. He and He and Joe Buck

740
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: deliver a good show. It's a good show, I mean,

741
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: but it's not anything where I would go. I gotta

742
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: have that every single week, right with Nansen Romo. I'm

743
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: curious to see how that builds over over the year

744
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: because over the years Nance and Sims, I don't know

745
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 1: that it was I don't know that it got much better,

746
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: but I was very intrigued, Like watching the Nancy Championship

747
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: game just with Romo and with Nance was like, I'm

748
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: curious to see how this goes for the next few

749
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: years because they could go with that way left. But

750
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: I also feel like if this takes a trajectory, I

751
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: think it will. This could be a really enjoyable group

752
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: to listen to doing games. Well, you know what they

753
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 1: don't do on television, They don't have outstanding sideline reporting

754
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 1: because I don't think they're interested in it. I don't

755
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: think you know, what you provide on the radio is

756
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: something really unique and very valuable to the broadcast. With

757
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: a lot of these television sideline reporters, okay, a lot

758
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: of it's eye candy, you know, not that they're bad reporters,

759
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: you know, I think Aaron Andrews is actually a pretty

760
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: good broadcaster. But you know, we all understand that she

761
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 1: looks great and everything. Now Michelle Tafoya, not that she's unattractive,

762
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 1: but she's really good. She's a podcaster. She's the best.

763
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:59,439
Speaker 1: She is the absolute best. And I think what she's

764
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: able to yet how she tracks it down, I mean

765
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: from a reporting from a reporting standpoint, I think she is.

766
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 1: She is top notch, and potentially without Pierre Lisa Salters,

767
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: I think does a pretty good job. Yeah I did too.

768
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 1: I was gonna mention her, but I think I think

769
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: maybe the best sideline reporter there is is Holly Row

770
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: doing college. I think Holly is fantastic. Yeah, I think

771
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: she does a really really good job. I thought Holly

772
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: Row and Shelley Smith did did really good. The other

773
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 1: one that I would say, and this comes from college,

774
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: is um, oh gosh, Wyman Blanco's name Tom tom Erldi,

775
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: Tom Roldi's pretty good. Um. I think he doctor Jerry

776
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: Pune remember now now you're going back, Jerry Punch was

777
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: he was pretty solid when you could say doctor, like

778
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: if I could be like doctor Mark Fantomer on the

779
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: play by play like, that would be so cool. I'm

780
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 1: gonna go get some kind of doctorate in I don't know,

781
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: you know, eating fast food or something. Is there? What's

782
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: the easiest doctorate to get? Jerry Punch? When you say

783
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: to me, doctor Jerry Punch, the first thing I think

784
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: of is siline report. That's the first thing that I

785
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: think about, because I associate him with that responsibility. Michelle

786
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: Michelle Tafoya to me in the NFL is I just

787
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: I don't know that there's now there are now most

788
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: of silent reporters I work with in some way, shape

789
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: or form, sharing information or whomever. The best that I

790
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: have worked with down there, like Aaron Andrews was good

791
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: to work with. We did the Saints game back in

792
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: twenty the Hard Knocks years, so twenty fifteen, and so

793
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: we were down there, and so we were getting here halftime,

794
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 1: and she was gonna get she was gonna get JJ

795
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: in the third quarter. And because she was getting jedge

796
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: in the third quarter, I was gonna talk to Bill

797
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: coming off the field, and so as I always do

798
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: interview bill'brian coming off the field, and she walked up

799
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: to me. She introduced herself. She was nice, she could be.

800
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: She's like, hey, do you mind if I just listen

801
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: and take notes as you're walking in with coach O'Brien. Absolutely, man,

802
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: no doubt. But the best, without without a doubt, that

803
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 1: I've worked with that has been so gracious and so

804
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: nice and sharing information from both sides of the field

805
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: is Shannon Spake. She worked one of our Fox games.

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00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: I think it was the Cardinals game, right. She was outstanding,

807
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: I mean just nice on top of it. I mean,

808
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: would come over me with information, Hey, the Cardinals just

809
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: told me that such a such, such and such as

810
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: banged up. She was she was outstanding. Shannon Spake is

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Speaker 1: the absolute best, just so great. If we go around

812
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: the league. Here a couple of broadcasts stories around the

813
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: league that are national today, Beth Muwens and Brian Greazy.

814
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: They will call Monday Night Football Week one part of

815
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: the doubleheader. I've talked about best before. I think she's

816
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: really good in terms of content. You know, I'm not

817
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: the biggest fan of female play by play only because

818
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: I don't like high voices doing play by play, and

819
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: that includes men. So I'm I'm not discriminated against women.

820
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: If a woman could have a voice like John Facenda,

821
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm all in favor of her doing play by play,

822
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: But otherwise I'm not really that much in favor of

823
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 1: it because I like deeper voices. Here's another one, the

824
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: Raiders hiring Brent Musburger to be their play by play announcer,

825
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: which blows my mind. I mean, I love Brent. You

826
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: are looking a lot. Look Brent, is you want to

827
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: talk iconic? I mean, Brent, But first of all, the

828
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: one you know, obviously, I'm gonna side with the local

829
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: radio announcer for the Raiders, Greg Popo has been doing

830
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: it forever. By the way, when you I challenge, you're

831
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: gonna challenge you. I told you a couple of years ago,

832
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: and I thought it would be a really good segment

833
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: on radio, and I was right. And that is when

834
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: you called the play by play voice, you get an

835
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: interview with the play by play voice. The other team

836
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: would call men behind the mics. You had Papa on

837
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: twice in twenty sixteen, the game that we played in

838
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: Mexico City and then the game that we played in

839
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Right, I listened to all those men behind

840
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: the mike's interview that those two that you did with

841
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 1: Greg Papa are the two that I remember. I remember

842
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: when he was just good. It was unbelievable. He was

843
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: talking about things and I just went, wow, he's outstanding.

844
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: He knows that team. It was fascinating to listen to.

845
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: And when I heard that they were going I thought

846
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: the news, Really, they're going away from Papa to go

847
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: to Musburger. This is a joke because the first person

848
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: that I saw tweet it was it was a it

849
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: was a fake account. It was like fake yes something.

850
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: I remember that, and I thought, okay, well this is

851
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 1: okay Haha. They're going to Las Vegas. That's where Musburg

852
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: is because he's doing a gambling type podcast, and I

853
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: mean it's great. And of course the Raiders are then

854
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 1: going out to Las Vegas. But they're not waiting until

855
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. We're doing it now. They're doing it now.

856
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: So that means Tom Flores out as well. And he'll

857
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: be in the crappy radio booth. So enjoy that, Brent.

858
00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: You know you're used to top flight broadcast facilities. Get

859
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 1: ready for radio, my friend. Now, Look, I've always thought

860
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 1: he was supremely talented. He's seventy nine years old. Now

861
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: maybe he's not, you know, maybe he's lost a few

862
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: mph off the fastball, so to speak. The one thing

863
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 1: about NFL radio, well, a couple of things here, all right,

864
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: it's radio. Not everybody watches the game on television. You're

865
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: listening to the radio, you're driving around, you're doing that.

866
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: But I get the majority of people watch on television.

867
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: But it's not just about listening to the radio as

868
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: the game is going on. It's the highlights on NFL films,

869
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: which are semi immortalized in NFL films highlight reels during

870
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 1: the week, the annual highlight reel, all the social media

871
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: highlights that are poured out with NFL films that have

872
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: the radio calls on them. I mean, you're really sort

873
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: of the soundtrack or part of the soundtrack of NFL

874
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,479
Speaker 1: football for your city, and that's why the voice gets

875
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 1: so heavily identified with the particular team. And that's sad

876
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: to me for Raider fans and certainly for Greg who

877
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: lost his gig to Musburger. Yeah, and I thought Greg

878
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: was fantastic, and you just you knew he bled silver

879
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: and black, and obviously Tom Flores did as well. But

880
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: they I heard somebody say something about, well, you know, Greg,

881
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: Papa was getting up in age and Tom Flores and

882
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: the Combine booth was like one hundred and sixty one

883
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 1: years old or something like that. Britt Musburgers seventy nine. Yeah,

884
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: it's like they're bringing in me and I'm forty six.

885
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. By the way, I agree, two times

886
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: Super Bowl winner. Absolutely quarterback are you kidding? Absolutely absolutely

887
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 1: needs to be in the Hall of Fame. But uh,

888
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: that's a that's a discussion, though John Lopez will want

889
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: to take up He's already taken up that discussion he

890
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: has and he'll get married. He's got a lot like

891
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: if he could present for Flores. I think Flores would

892
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: have a really great shot to get in. Johnny, thanks

893
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: a lot. That's the show for tonight. Thanks so much

894
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: for listening, and we'll be back at it tomorrow at six.

895
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Speaker 1: Have a great night and go Texans.