1 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. Welcome into another edition of Crush City Territory. 2 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 1: I'm channing the room, joined by a newly thirty three 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: year old Tyler Stafford. Happy belated birthday, Tyler. What did 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: Livy and the girls get you for your birthday? 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 2: It was great. I don't know if you saw on Twitter, 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: but Alicia made a sh I've. 7 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: Tried to stay off Twitter for the last ten hours 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: smart reasons go. Look. 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, Alicia made me a silly moon shirt that has 10 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 2: pictures of me and Olivia on it. Olivia, I love 11 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 2: the moon. Olivia loves the moon too. And then one 12 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 2: of my favorite phrases of hers is anytime we see 13 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 2: the moon during the day, she calls it a silly moon. 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: And so I got a shirt with our faces on 15 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: it and a big moon that says silly moon. So 16 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: that was a lot of fun. She also got me 17 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: a really thing, which is probably from your co workers. 18 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: I got this really neat. It says from the New 19 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: York Times, but it's this like big black book and 20 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: it's like microfilm basically of newspapers, uh covering the astros. 21 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: So it's just like hundreds and hundreds of newspaper articles 22 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen that, but I'm excited 23 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: to dig through that and look at all that. She 24 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: also got me a mug that gives me a little 25 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: bit there you go, there's the silly moon. And then 26 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 2: she also got me a little mug that has a 27 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: QR code and gives me a random baseball stat every day. 28 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: So it was a lot of fun. 29 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: And uh, do you think Olivia knows what a newspaper is? No, 30 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: I don't think so that's depressing's she's five years old. 31 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: She'll probably never know what a newspaper is, which is 32 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: kind of used. 33 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: To get I used to get the Chronic. I mean 34 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 2: I was like the old man here for a while, 35 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: used to get the Chronicle delivered every morning. But since 36 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: you're not there anymore, you know what am I doing? 37 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: Uh? 38 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: Maybe I'll just print out your articles from the Athletic 39 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: and tell her it's a newspaper. 40 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: Well, the Athletic is technically kind of a newspaper because 41 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: the New York Times does own us. 42 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: So and if did you see in the World Series, 43 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna forget which base I think it was. Uh 44 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: does Hayman work for the Post? Yes? 45 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: Okay, so he tweet tweeted out yes. 46 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: He tweeted out the Post cares more about the World 47 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 2: Series and listed all of the newspapers that were there. 48 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 2: And my favorite addition to that was, you know, La 49 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 2: Times has two people, The New York Post has three people, 50 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: The New York Times has one, and then in parentheses 51 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: uses the Athletic. And I'm like, that's like thirty people. 52 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: You can't just parenthetical uses the Athletic. 53 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: I'll also say, off the top of my head, the 54 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: Athletic had at least five people, yeah, covering the World Series. 55 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: Some cases they had more than that, but on site 56 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: they add at least five. So I love you, John. 57 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 1: I like John Hammond. I know he's not everyone's favorite, 58 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: but I like John. But yeah, just give you that 59 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: one John. The Athletic does care as well. So while 60 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: you were so, I heard you saw you're a movie guy. 61 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: I heard you saw The Running Man. I did how'd 62 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: that go? So? 63 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: I'm a huge Edgar Wright guy. Edgar Wright, did you 64 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: know Scott Pilgrim versus The World Hot Hot Fuzz Baby Driver, 65 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: which some people don't like. I loved Baby Driver, So 66 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: it was very excited for this new egga Wright movie 67 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: and it was bad. I did not enjoy it at all. 68 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: I said on Twitter as well. But one of my 69 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: favorite Edgar Wright things is like how he can dial 70 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: in a tone of a movie. Like when you watch 71 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: Hot Fuzz, everyone talks in this weird but very specific 72 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: way and the whole world looks the same. Same thing. 73 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: In Baby Driver, you know, it's all like a big 74 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: use the video, so it's Scott Pilgrim too. They talk 75 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 2: like insane people, but everyone talks kind of the same. 76 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: And in this movie, it just felt like there was 77 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: like eight different tones that were in the movie, and 78 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: no one knew that they were acting in the same movie. 79 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: So I didn't love it, but I'll try again. Birthday 80 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 2: week is when I get to go see a lot 81 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 2: of movies, so I'm hoping to go out and and 82 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: see a few more this weekend. 83 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: Well, you've said a precedent now that when you go 84 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: see movies things are going to happen with the astros, 85 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: because I presume as you were watching this movie that 86 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: didn't meet your expectations, the astros were finalizing a salary dump, 87 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: and that salary dump has depressed and has enraged and 88 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,239 Speaker 1: has made a lot of people very angry because Mauricio 89 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: Dubon is no longer a member of the Houston Astros. 90 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: He was traded last night to the Atlanta Braves in 91 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: exchange for Nick Allen. There's a lot of ways you 92 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: could tackle this one. Know. I think fans obviously grew 93 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: attached to Mauricio Duban, I'll be quite candid. Reporters did too. 94 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: He was one of my favorite guys in the clubhouse, 95 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: one of all of our favorite people in the clubhouse. 96 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: Everyone would always ask It was kind of interesting. You 97 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: see the people who read a lot, you see the people 98 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: that don't read a lot. The people that read a 99 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: lot would often ask us, you know, as the season 100 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: was spiraling in August and September, like why are you 101 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: guys only talking to Carlo's Corea and Mauricio Dubon. Well, 102 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: because there's just players that don't love to talk when 103 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: Blank is hitting the fan and Carlo's Correa is always 104 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: going to be one of those guys. He's the leader 105 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: of the team, He's going to be the guy that 106 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: stands up and takes questions. And then Mauricio Dubon too. 107 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of a selfish thing for reporters. 108 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: But he was a guy that was always there. He 109 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: was a guy and he was never going to give 110 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: you the boiler plate. Just we're trying our best, We're 111 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: trying our hardest. You know. He'd mix in some expletives, 112 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: he'd mix in you know, some some he'd really tell 113 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: you how he felt, which candor is the best thing 114 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: any player can have in terms of my job. So yes, 115 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: I grew attached to Mauricio Dubon, just like a lot 116 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: of the fans did. But unsurprisingly, the reaction to Mauricio 117 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: Dubon's trade has been very odd. It's been very loud. 118 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: There's a lot of people that are upset. Tyler I, 119 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: we talked about this before the offseason even began, that 120 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: there there was a good chance that they were not 121 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,239 Speaker 1: They we certainly said they were not going to carry 122 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: both Ramon Urius and Mauricio Dubon on the same roster, 123 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:43,119 Speaker 1: the same player. They were doing a good amount of money, 124 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 1: not not an earth shattering amount of money, but do 125 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: do a substantial salary. They they they fulfilled the same role. 126 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,799 Speaker 1: When Ramon Urius was designated for assignment earlier this week. 127 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: I think that gave maybe people a little bit of 128 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: you know, false hope or some some solad said Hey, 129 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna they're going to go forward with Mauricio Dubon, 130 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: and then one day later that did not happen. I 131 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: guess when you got out of The Running Man, what 132 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,119 Speaker 1: was your reaction to opening up your phone and going 133 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: to wherever your most trusted news sources and seeing that 134 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: Mauricio Dubon is no longer an Astro. 135 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: Well fun fact, you're the most trusted resource among my 136 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 2: friend group. I had three different texts that were just 137 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 2: a link to your tweet saying the Astros have traded 138 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: Mauricio Dubon, and I did not investigate any further. So 139 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: this is I'm going to feel good about this because 140 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: I saw the trade and everyone was like what or 141 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: he just said, you know, he's been traded. I didn't 142 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 2: see the return in the tweet that came to me, 143 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 2: and each person I replied to I was like, oh, 144 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: they must have found a second baseman, and then they 145 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 2: all followed it up with you saying yeah, they traded 146 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 2: for Nick Allen. So I didn't know that that was 147 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 2: the return at the time. I just saw that he 148 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: had been traded and I was like, Oh, they must 149 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: have found a second base or something. So I don't 150 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 2: know if that's smart or dumb of me on my 151 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: part that I replied that way, But I think you're 152 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 2: I think you're exactly right that when Arius was dfaight 153 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: or non tendered or whatever the correct term is, uh, 154 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: that certainly seemed to me like I thought it was 155 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: an either war thing, like they're going to keep one 156 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: or the other. I also, maybe we can talk about 157 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 2: this in a minute, but I assumed that Arias had 158 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: some trade value, so I was kind of surprised to 159 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: see him dfaid Like that seemed like one that you 160 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: could just dump to somebody for some eighteen year old 161 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 2: that throws ninety five and can't hit the broadside of 162 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 2: a barn. But you just hope, you know, something like that. 163 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: I figured they'd get like a lottery ticket for him. 164 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: So I was I was surprised by that, were you. 165 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: A little bit? I think this is a good segue 166 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: to talk about value and to talk about like what 167 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: teams look at in terms of value when they're acquiring players, 168 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: because I think one of the biggest immediate reactions that 169 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: I got from a lot of angry people was Mauricio 170 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: Dubon only got you Nick Allen, who could be the 171 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: second baseman Tyler? You may have been onto something like 172 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: this is a guy that does play predominantly shortstop and 173 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: second base. He plays up the middle. I'm not saying 174 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: he's gonna play second base every day, but he'll certainly 175 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: get some time at second base. So your first instinct 176 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: was probably right, Let's go to Dubon really quick. Just 177 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: in terms of value, when a team is acquiring a player, 178 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: I think the first thing they want to look at 179 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: is years of control left and salary. Mauricio Dubon, according 180 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: to MLB trade rumors, is going to make five point 181 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: eight million dollars in arbitration. That's that's not nothing, but 182 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: it's also not some ungodly sum of money. Mauricio Dubon 183 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: also is a free agent next season, so the Braves 184 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: have Mauricio Dubon for seven months. Like, let's give or 185 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: take seven months. Mauricio Dubon has a career OPS plus 186 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: of eighty five. He is a wonderful defender. He's won 187 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: two goal Glove Awards. The Braves, if they don't sign 188 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: a shortstop, are probably going to pencil him into play 189 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: predominantly or every day at shortstop. That's a bargain for them. 190 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: He'll catch the ball obviously. I mean we' we watched 191 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: him for three years here, Like, he's a very very 192 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: good defender, and if depending on what metrics you look at, 193 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: depending on who you talk to in the game, his 194 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: probably his best place defensively is on the left side 195 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: of the infield. So from that vantage point, there's value 196 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: in terms of everything else. He's not going to bring 197 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 1: much offensively. He kind of is what he is at 198 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: this point offensively, and you only have him for said months, 199 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: you only have him for a year. That in and 200 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: of itself is going to not give him maybe the 201 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: value that I think Astros fans had in their heads. 202 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: And to be honest with you, the way this trade worked, 203 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 1: the Astro's got Mauricio Dubon's replacement just four and a 204 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: half million dollars cheaper because Nick Allen's going to make 205 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: a million dollars. And look, Nick Allen, no he's not. 206 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: He's not, and I'm not sitting here saying he is, 207 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: but he is going to be the Dubon replacement. You 208 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: talk to people about Nick Allen, he defends the hell 209 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: out of it. You look at his career ops plus 210 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: it is not very good. It is in the fifties. Look, 211 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: this is a guy that Mauricio Dubon took three hundred 212 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: ninety eight played appearances last year. A lot of that 213 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: was due to injury, A lot of that was due 214 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: to the state of their roster. If Nick Allen takes 215 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: three hundred ninety eight played appearances for the twenty twenty 216 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: six Astras, something has gone horribly wrong so that he 217 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,599 Speaker 1: is he is here to be the insurance, the infield 218 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: insurance guy, to fill in at second base when they 219 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: need him to things like that. In terms of ramone Arius, 220 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: you look at Urias, he's got He's in the same 221 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: boat as Dubon. He's got one more year team control 222 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: this coming year, and then he's a free agent. He 223 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: was he was due to make four point four million 224 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: dollars in arbitration. Again, not an ungodly So this is 225 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: also not a guy that plays every day, that has 226 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:34,359 Speaker 1: not played every day a Ton Dubon. Where Duban's versatility 227 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: kicks in, Duban played the outfield, and again I don't 228 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: think the Braves are going to play him in the outfield, 229 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: but he has that ability. Ramona Arius doesn't have that. 230 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: Ramona Arius can't play first base, ramon Arius can't play 231 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: every position Dubon can, and he's not as good defensively 232 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: as Mauricio Dubon. Now, the offensive upside is better than Dubon's. 233 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: But I was a little surprised. And let's also say 234 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: Ramonerius is still in DFA limbo, so technically the Ashers 235 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: can still trade him. He can still be traded. The 236 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: situation where they defade him and they can't do anything 237 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: with him, they have seven days to either pass him 238 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: through waivers or trade him. And maybe they do do that, Tyler. 239 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: Maybe they do find a team that's like, you know 240 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: what we'll give you. We'll give you some kid in 241 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: the Dominican Summer League and hope he turns into something. 242 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: Or we'll give you a kid in Loway that we 243 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 1: don't think much of that. You know, maybe you guys 244 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: can can turn around. 245 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 2: Maybe that does happen. 246 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: But I was a little bit surprised that Urias didn't 247 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: get anything, but again that they still are in that 248 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: they're still in that limbo to where he could once 249 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 1: you kind of sat down and once you realize, once 250 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: you looked at the tree, did you understand why they 251 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 1: made it? Because I think that's something that people are 252 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: still maybe struggling to come to terms with as to 253 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: why the Ashers made this deal. 254 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:01,599 Speaker 2: There's a difference between not paying Mauricio Dubon six and 255 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 2: a half million dollars because you want to pocket six 256 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: and a half million dollars and you want to spend 257 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: six and a half million dollars on a different player, 258 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 2: And I think that is the biggest you know, like 259 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: if this were a Pirates move or something, I think 260 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: you get very upset where it's like you're just making 261 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 2: your team worse and there's no expectation that you're going 262 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 2: to spend that money elsewhere. I think Jim Crane has 263 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: absolutely earned the benefit of the doubt that if he 264 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: has money that he can spend, he's going to spend it. 265 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: And so I think this is a roster flexibility move. 266 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 2: And to be honest, if you need someone who can 267 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: play a couple of positions and not hit, there's five 268 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 2: hundred of those guys that are not making any money 269 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: because they can't hit, and that's why you don't have 270 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 2: to pay them that much money. Just for reference for 271 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: everybody I've got is it spot rack? You pronounced this 272 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 2: web spot track? Okay, anyway, I have that pulled up. 273 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 2: Marusio Dubon is on their estimation, going to make six 274 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 2: point eight million in arbitration this year. Again, those are 275 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 2: all estimations, but if you look at the Astros uh 276 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: roster on there, he would have been the tenth highest 277 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 2: paid player on the team this year. I don't think 278 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: you want to have Mariso Duban be the tenth highest 279 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 2: paid player on your team. I mean, now, a lot 280 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 2: of that is just because of the way contracts are, 281 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 2: Like Brian A. Bray you is going to make less 282 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 2: than that. Obviously they would pay Brian to Brady more 283 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 2: on the open market. But yeah, I mean, look, if 284 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 2: you're gonna dump that money, and then you also have 285 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 2: who you know, everybody else Garcia. You got Montero's money 286 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 2: coming off the Brooks, you got Jose Brayhw's money coming 287 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 2: off the book. So where walk me through? Where are 288 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 2: we at right now? All luxury tax wise? What do 289 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 2: the Astros have that they can play with this offseason? 290 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: Okay? I want to reinforce something you said every indication 291 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: I've gotten is that the Astras are reinvesting this money 292 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: that they are saving. I think a lot of people 293 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: looked at it and said, you're saving four million dollars 294 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: for what this team still needs at least one starting pitcher, 295 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: maybe two. They'd like a left handed bat. We know 296 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: that we've talked about their interest in Brendan Donovan. That's 297 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: obviously not going to cost money. But I mean, again, 298 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: like they need to clear some space here. You know, 299 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: they are reinvesting this money. This is not a situation 300 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: where you know they're they're just cutting payroll to cut payroll. 301 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: And it's not even fair to say they're cutting payroll. 302 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: They're reshuffling payroll. They're moving payroll around, they're moving money. 303 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: You asked kind of what they've done thus far, you know, 304 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: take the Montero in a bray, you and fromber salary 305 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: out of it, because you knew coming into this winter 306 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: that those were coming off the books. They had to 307 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: come off the books. In terms of what they have 308 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: proactively done with the payroll. They've they put Luis Garcia 309 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: and Chas McCormick on waivers, so they're gone. They dfayed 310 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: ramon Arius and they traded Mauricio Dubon last night. Using 311 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: MLB trade rumors as numbers, those four guys were projected 312 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: to make fifteen point eight million dollars in arbitration. So, 313 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: in essence, the Astros have pocketed an approximate fifteen point 314 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: eight million dollars. Now Nick Allen is skept is according 315 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: to trade rumors projected to make I believe around one 316 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: point one one point five in arbitration, So fifteen point 317 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: eight minus one point five whatever that is, they've pocketed 318 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: that much money. We'll talk in a little bit about 319 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: ways that they could pocket some more money. But they 320 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 1: entered this, they entered the off season, depending on what 321 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 1: approximation you looked at, around twenty million away from the 322 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: first luxury tax threshold, which, if you haven't figured it 323 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: out by now, Jim Crane does not want to cross 324 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: the luxury tax threshold, at least this winter. We've seen 325 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: him that he has done this before, where he's said 326 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: in the winter or he's told people in the winter 327 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 1: that they weren't crossing the luxury tax and then if 328 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: they get to the trade deadline and they're still in it, 329 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: he'll be more than happy to splurge. So he's done 330 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: this before. But if you look at Kott's contracts right now, 331 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: and again I want to stress that these are approximations. 332 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: According to Kott's contracts, askers are about twenty six million 333 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: dollars under the first luxury tax threshold. So they've given 334 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: themselves a good bit a little bit of wiggle room 335 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 1: here to work with. And they still have some things 336 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 1: that they could do to get further from that luxury 337 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 1: tax threshold, and we'll talk about those right after. This 338 00:18:58,200 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: message from our friends of Foul Territory. 339 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 3: Holiday shopping season is here and we have you covered 340 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 3: from head to toe. 341 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 2: Let's take to talk about an area that's not quite 342 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 2: close to the toes. 343 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: Let's get crazy with this holiday season. Yeah that's me 344 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: Undies I'm spinning around. 345 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:16,479 Speaker 2: But the holiday season. 346 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: Now, you can get me undies with some holiday prints 347 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: on them. 348 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 3: That's right, ridiculously soft fabric holiday prints, matching holiday prints. 349 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: With your special person. 350 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 3: Or you can coordinate pjs for the family photo. And 351 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 3: right now you can get up to fifty percent off 352 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 3: with the code Foul We. 353 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: Rock me Undies. You should too. 354 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 3: We're talking over thirty million pairs sold knock out all 355 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 3: your holiday gifting needs today with me undies. To get 356 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 3: exclusive holiday deals up to yep I said, at fifty 357 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 3: percent off, go to meundies dot com, slash foul and 358 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 3: enter promo code foul. That's m U N d I 359 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 3: E s dot com slash f o u L promo 360 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 3: code foul for up to fifty percent off. 361 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: To keep it uniform, I looked at SPA tracks payroll 362 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: estimation and they have the astras about twenty eight million 363 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: dollars away from the first luxury tax social So anywhere 364 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: from twenty five to twenty eight million dollars is what 365 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: the astras now theoretically have to quote unquote play with 366 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: now tomorrow. We're recording this on Thursday afternoon. Tomorrow. Friday 367 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: is the non tend is the tender non tender deadline. 368 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,479 Speaker 1: It's essentially the day when you have to decide if 369 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: you are going to give your arbitration eligible players, if 370 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: you're going to tender them contracts for next year. This 371 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: is not when they are getting paid. This is not 372 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: the day when they determine the salary. This is just 373 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: are you giving them a contract for next year. I'll 374 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: share the I'll share the MLB trade rumors projections right now, 375 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: and they still have the guys that they have discarded. 376 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: So d Bond still on here, McCormick's still on here, 377 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: and believe Garcia is still on there too, So take 378 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: those guys away. They've got thirteen. I believe it's now thirteen. 379 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: It's fourteen, so they have no twelve excuse. They have 380 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: twelve arbitration eligible players tomorrow that they have to decide. 381 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 1: Are they going to tender contracts to them? The two 382 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: most likely, and I think there's a couple small ones 383 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: that could help out. Taylor Tremmell to me is very 384 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: much a I don't know if they would tender him 385 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: a contract, but they've talked about firming up their outfield 386 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: and how much outfield help they need. I think for 387 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: nine hundred k they would probably, you know, be okay 388 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: keeping him around, and yell Dello Santos was great toward 389 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: the end of the year, but he's a reliever. Of 390 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: relievers are very vollable. Do they want to pay him 391 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: two point two million dollars or do they look around 392 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: in their farm system? Do they look around at their 393 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: young guys making the minimum and say that we can 394 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 1: do what he could do with these cheaper controlled options, 395 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: so he can. 396 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 2: I don't even consider those like money decisions. It's just 397 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: are these the two guys that you want to lock 398 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 2: in to have on your team? That's that's 's interesting. 399 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 2: I mean, you can find no offense at all to 400 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 2: either of those gentlemen. But those guys grow on trees 401 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 2: you can find, you know, if you need a Taylor 402 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 2: Trammel in May, you can find a Taylor Tremil in May. 403 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 2: If it manifests that your team needs that, you're able 404 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 2: to find one. But you may not want to be 405 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 2: like locked in in the you know, in the same way. 406 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: The two that I think are going to be real 407 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: decisions for the Astros, or to be honest with your 408 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: decisions for other teams are Jake Myers, as we've talked 409 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: about in Hayesu Sanchez. Jake Myers, according to trade rumors, 410 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: is going to project for three point five million dollars 411 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: in ARB. Hay Sus Sanchez is going to project for 412 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: six and a half million dollars in ARB. Poking around today, 413 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: I can tell you that both of these guys have 414 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: substantial markets that other two teams are calling the Astros 415 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: about both of these guys. I know it didn't seem 416 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: that way for the two months you watched Haysus Sanchez 417 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: play baseball if you're an Astros fan. But he does 418 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: have value. He he has been a good player in 419 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: the past. He's got a good I wonder how how 420 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: much team control does he have left. I think he's 421 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: got two more years of team control left. He hits 422 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: left handed. And Jake Myers, we've discussed that. We've discussed 423 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: you know, he has been a guy that has been 424 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: They've been fielding trade inquiries on him for a very 425 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: long time. His value now is as high as it's 426 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: ever been. They have some some decisions to make on 427 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: these two guys. And you know, if one or both 428 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: of those guys go, I mean if both of them go, 429 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: if you just go by the projections, that's another ten 430 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: million dollars that you give yourself freed up. Be very 431 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: interesting decisions for Dana Brown tomorrow as he's fielding these 432 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: calls from teams. Tyler, as you look at this, we've 433 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: talked about kind of the uncertainty of their outfield and 434 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: what they need to do. But you see a scenario 435 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: where neither of those guys are back in Astro's uniforms. 436 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, I think you tender obviously both contracts. 437 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 2: I certainly don't think when you said there was a 438 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 2: decision to be made, I mean I think obviously you offer. 439 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: Well, the decision would be, the decision would be I 440 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: want to Okay. Also, we should probably say this, even 441 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: if they tender Hayesus Sanchez and Jake Myers contracts tomorrow, 442 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: they can still trade them like Kyle When you think 443 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: of this, think of this. Kyle Tucker got tender to 444 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: contract by the Astros last year and then they traded 445 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: him three weeks later at the winter meetings. So the 446 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 1: the tomorrow's deadline is basically, are you good? 447 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 2: Are you going to be remaining? Are yeah? Are you 448 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 2: committing to upholding this contract unless you trade them elsewhere? 449 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean to me, I think you obviously 450 00:24:54,680 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 2: tender both. Uh. Hayeses Sanchez is one, honestly for that. 451 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 2: I think you know, if you need the six and 452 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: a half million dollars at some point this offseason, and 453 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 2: you know you've got a free agent signing that you're 454 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 2: trying to get or whatever, then that will be your 455 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 2: sign of Okay, we need to dump this contract, see 456 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 2: what we can get. But I mean, worst case scenario, 457 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 2: you pay Jesus Sanchez six million dollars and you hope 458 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 2: that he shows the same thing. The reason that why 459 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 2: you trade it for him and the reason why other 460 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 2: people want him as well. You know, the worst case 461 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 2: scenario is you have him on your team and he 462 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 2: can't be worse than what he was last year. But 463 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 2: I mean somebody will trade for him. Myers. To me, look, 464 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 2: I get wanting to trade him. I get that his 465 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 2: value is very high. To me, he needs to be 466 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,959 Speaker 2: an action item one way or the other. And what 467 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 2: I mean by that is I don't want them going 468 00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 2: into this season without a plan for him in the 469 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 2: future in place. So they either need to extend him 470 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 2: four or five years and you know, have him as 471 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 2: part of the options there for a while, or you know, 472 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 2: look for trade partners or something like that. But I 473 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 2: don't Myers is not a guy that gets value because 474 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 2: he's so good. He has value right now because he 475 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 2: is good and also has team control. So there's no 476 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 2: point just like what we saw with Dubon, like there's 477 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 2: no point in holding on to him until you've got 478 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 2: one year of team control left or whatever. You know, 479 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 2: you either need to extend him or you need to 480 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 2: capitalize on that value. But again, I don't think that's 481 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 2: a decision that you need to make until you know 482 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 2: that you've got a center field er that you trust 483 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 2: every day. And I don't think the Astros have that internally, 484 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: So unless you're getting one from somewhere, I would not 485 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 2: want to trust center field to someone who is not 486 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 2: on the team currently. That's not Jake Myers. 487 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jake Myers will not be a free agent until 488 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: after next season, so that will increase his value to 489 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: teams who already thought he was very valuable because it. 490 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 2: Give him five years, fifty million and call it a day. 491 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 1: Can you take that? 492 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 2: I mean I don't. I don't know why you wouldn't. 493 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 2: I mean again, look at Chas McCormick, Like if he 494 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 2: had been offered that extension three years ago doing great. 495 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 2: I mean, look, some people do and some people don't. 496 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 2: I think you offer it obviously, like and I'm sure 497 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 2: that they have. I'm not not. 498 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: The worst it can do. The worst he can do 499 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: is say no. 500 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, But I mean some people value stability, like look 501 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 2: Jake Myers has been great in his career so far. 502 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 2: His career earnings are six and a half million dollars, 503 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 2: and he could I mean, he could get injured this 504 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 2: year and never be the same after that and only 505 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 2: make six and a half million dollars, or he could 506 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 2: sign a fifty million dollar contract and his great grandkids 507 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 2: would be set for life. Like you know, it's it's 508 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 2: how you want to weigh it and how you want 509 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 2: to bet on yourself. Like we've seen people refuse to 510 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 2: have extensions, and that's fine too, but you also could 511 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 2: secure generational wealth for you and your family. And so 512 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 2: if that's something that he's interested in, and I think 513 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 2: that would make a lot of sense. But like I said, 514 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 2: either way, I think you need to have a decision 515 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 2: because if you don't have an internal replacement for Jake 516 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 2: Myers right now, do you really think you're gonna have 517 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 2: one next year? Like you either need to decide he's 518 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 2: staying with you because you see him as the center 519 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 2: fielder that you trust, or you need to capitalize on 520 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 2: that value. 521 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: Well, they think they may have internal I mean the 522 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: way Dana Brown talks about Zach. 523 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 2: Cole, I got to see it first, I don't. I don't. 524 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 2: I believe it, but I'd rather see it first before. 525 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest that's the biggest unknown here. 526 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: Like I think if you would hook Dana Brown or 527 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: Joe Spota up to truth serum and asked them, like, 528 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: do you think Zach Cole is for real? Do you 529 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: think Jacob Melton is for real? If the answer to 530 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: one of those two questions is yeah, we like it 531 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: and we want to give them runway, then Jake that 532 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: makes the decisions. Then you trade Jake Myers to whoever 533 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: gives you the best offer. And I want to caution 534 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: here too, because when we started talking about Jake Myers 535 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: and trade talks and we started talking about Mauricio Dubon 536 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: and trade talks, fans were very They had outsized expectations 537 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: for what they could fetch in return, and we talked 538 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: about why Mauricio Dubon the return was what it was. 539 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: I think, just by virtue of Jake Myers having more 540 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: team control than Mauricio Dubon, you would get more for 541 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: Jake Myers. But I temper your expectations here, like you're 542 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: not getting a you're not getting a third starter for 543 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: Jake Myers straight up like it's not that's not how 544 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: it works. And you're not getting a top one hundred 545 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: prospect for Jake Myers either. You know, you could get something, 546 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, and and they it would be 547 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: a it would be a maybe a more palatable return 548 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: than you got for Mauricio Dubon. 549 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 2: But but yeah, Yaner Diaz, for Miles Straw, you know, 550 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 2: like you can get guy right. And hey, Chandler, do 551 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: you know how scouts get better at their job? How 552 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 2: they watch film? 553 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: Ayton jesus Man, I don't know. I don't know where 554 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: to You've derailed this. Thank you. I want to remind 555 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: everybody too, and I wanted to. I didn't know the 556 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: best way to say this last night when everyone was 557 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: freaking out. You know, the Ashers did this last year too, 558 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: like everyone trying to And I thought, Tyler, you were 559 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: eloquent as always earlier when you said, Jim Cranes earn 560 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt and reinvesting a lot of 561 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: this money. And and just to know that this was 562 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: not just you know, cutting peril to cut payrol. They 563 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: traded Ryan, they salary dumped Ryan Presley last year. It 564 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: just happened real well, it just happened after they signed 565 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: Christian Walker, like they did. The order of operations was backwards, 566 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: like they signed Christian Walker, the huge deal. They invested 567 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: money in places and then they were trimming this is terrible, 568 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: like they did. They did this last year. This is 569 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: this is just how it goes. And again I get it. 570 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: As fans, you grow attached to guys. And this gave 571 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: me a lot of Joey Lo Praffito vibes. I don't 572 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: know if it gave you Joey Li Braffito vibes, but. 573 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 2: Like always in Joey Lo Praffito vibes, but like. 574 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: The the the outrage last night, I don't know if 575 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: it I don't know if it was as great, but 576 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: it was on par with what happened the night that 577 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: they traded for Yusee Kakuci and Joey Lo Perfito was 578 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: in the deal, and everyone acted like they had just 579 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: traded the reincarnate of Willie May's and whatever your favorite 580 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: outfielder is. Like again, well, and. 581 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 2: Here's listen, let's talk about what this really is, whether 582 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 2: it's Dubon or Myers or low Perffito. The issue is 583 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 2: you're trading qutie pies, and let's be real, that's part 584 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 2: of the problem. If these were some ugos, I don't 585 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 2: think you'd see nearly as much, you know, people up 586 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 2: in arms, So that's that's part of it. Dubon had 587 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 2: the sweet suit for his gold Glove appearance. You know, 588 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 2: Jake Myer's got the flow. I get it. So I 589 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 2: think that's part of it. 590 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: No, yeah, I mean again, it's it's people you grow 591 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: attached to for whatever reason, for that reason, for maybe 592 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: they're on social media a lot, maybe they or maybe 593 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: they cook a lot, like Joey Loperfito, maybe they're like 594 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: Mauricio Dubon and have like the the thing when you're 595 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: on Homer's and he just stared at Julia's phone, Like 596 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe maybe that's it. Like I think he 597 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: got a set, like I think baseball wise, and I 598 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: think just for doing what they had to do, because 599 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: let's face it, like they have to stay under the 600 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,719 Speaker 1: luxury tax. That is that is an order, that is 601 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: something that they have been told they have to do 602 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: for something they have to do. I think this was 603 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: a pretty straightforward trade, Like you you got a more 604 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: you got a cheaper version of Mauricio Dubon. Is he 605 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,959 Speaker 1: as good as Maurice, as Nick Allen, as good as 606 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: Mauricio Dubon. No he is not, but he makes less 607 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: money and he can do the things that Mauricio Dubon 608 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: did for you. Now that being said, they will miss Maurice. 609 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: This team will miss Mauricio dan in a lot of ways. 610 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: In the clubhouse. You know, he was very well liked 611 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: in the clubhouse. He and jord and Alvarez are very 612 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: good friends. He was a he was a guy in 613 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: the clubhouse. He was he was a vibes guy. He 614 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: was the DJ, as I think we all figured out 615 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: in the spring when that became a story for five days 616 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: for no reason, that Mauricio Dubon was the DJ. He 617 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 1: was DJ in the clubhouse. You know, like we said, 618 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: was had morphed into a team spokesman by the end 619 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 1: of it. And when you're a utility guy that doesn't 620 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: play every day and you're a team spokesman, that should 621 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: sort of tell you kind of the play. He the 622 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: place he had risen to. But also, you know, I mean, 623 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: this team was so injured last year that Dubon saved 624 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: their rear ends a lot because now this year, this 625 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: coming season, like anytime an infielder is out for an 626 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: extended period of time or they don't they have someone 627 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: like underperforming in the outfield, or they have someone underperforming anywhere, 628 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,479 Speaker 1: like there's now a real question as to like who's 629 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 1: going to replace them? Like who who do you put 630 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,760 Speaker 1: in and where? That maybe wasn't the question you felt 631 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: at least okay. You felt you felt okay putting Dubon 632 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: anywhere on the field, And I'm not sure you have 633 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 1: that this year. 634 00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 2: Well you do in the sense that you have Carlo 635 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 2: Korea playing out of position. So if you need, you know, 636 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 2: to give Jeremy Pania a blow, you're able to put 637 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 2: Korea there. You've got, you know, as of right now, 638 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 2: you've got Parades who can also play their base and 639 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,760 Speaker 2: first base, and you know you've you've got the ability 640 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 2: to kind of move some people around. But look, at 641 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 2: the end of the day, Mauricio Dubon cannot be the 642 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 2: reason that your season you know, is a success or failure. 643 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 2: That you know that that's just what it is. And 644 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 2: if he is not the reason that your team is 645 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 2: going to be a success or failure, you also probably 646 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 2: can't pay him the tenth most amount of money on 647 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 2: your team. That's just the way roster construction works. And look, everybody, 648 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 2: enjoy who who's the leader in the clubhouse? Now for 649 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 2: Vibes guy? For next year? Who who's your money on? 650 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: I mean maybe Korea? 651 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 2: But like Ray is too big to be Vibes guy. 652 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 2: You need, you need the class clown. Who's the key 653 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 2: k Hernandez? Who's the like just the goofball? 654 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: Well, you see it used to be Chazz too, So that's. 655 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,399 Speaker 2: That's all what I'm saying. Who's left? 656 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: You know, if they tender him a contract. Steven Okert, 657 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: he is the He is the zany kind of I. 658 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 2: Don't think bullpen counts. It's got to be a I 659 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 2: think it's got to be a position player that's on 660 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 2: the bench. Whenever things get rough in the seventh inning, 661 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 2: you need a goofball. 662 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I've never met Nick Allen. 663 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,919 Speaker 2: Maybe Nick Allen, maybe he's funny. 664 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: Maybe like maybe Nick Allen can be that guy. I 665 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: have never met him, look forward to meeting him. I've 666 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: heard nothing but good things about him just as a person, 667 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: So maybe he can be that guy. I'm not sure, 668 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: but yes, they need they need uh, they need a 669 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 1: new vibes guy. They do. And you know, like maybe 670 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: this maybe Cam Smith kind of comes out of his 671 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: shell a little bit. I think it's in there for 672 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: camp drinking coffee maybe or other or other things. You know, 673 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: maybe that comes out at Can Smith because I think 674 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 1: that is in like he is a he's a fun, 675 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,879 Speaker 1: funny guy like beneath it all. But you know, as 676 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: a rookie in that situation, he kind of didn't want 677 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 1: to piss anybody off. He wanted to kind of stay 678 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: in his lane, which is again what rookies in this 679 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: sport do. So maybe it's him. I'm not sure, but yes, 680 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: they need a vibes guy. They need someone to just 681 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 1: come in and you know, bring some levity to situations, 682 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,280 Speaker 1: you know, just kind of laugh a little bit, smile. 683 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: I think if you're asking me right now, i'd probably 684 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: say Stephen Oker. And I know that's not the it's 685 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 1: not the answer a lot of people were looking for. 686 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: But it could be him. They could non tender. They 687 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: could non tender him tomorrow. For all we know, he's 688 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: due to make two million dollars next year and he's 689 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 1: a left handed reliever that didn't really get a ton 690 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,479 Speaker 1: of leverage situations last year, but did pitch like every 691 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: day he had a rubber arm, So who knows. He 692 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: may not even be back tomorrow. We will be back 693 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: at some point this week with another episode will react 694 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: to the Astros tender and non tender decisions which are 695 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: coming up tomorrow Friday. I'm not I think there's a 696 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 1: specific time that the deadline is. It's usually around like 697 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: six pm. But the reason I kept saying that, like 698 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: the reason that it will be important to like monitor 699 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: Jake Myers and Hayesu Sanchez tomorrow is everyone is talking 700 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 1: about trades right now, Like this is this deadline is 701 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: a lot of times when these sort of trades are made. 702 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: So the old saying you strike when the iron's hot, 703 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: this is when all these teams are going to be 704 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: talking about trades. Yes, if they tender Jake Myers and 705 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,399 Speaker 1: Hasu Sanchez contracts, they could still technically trade them later 706 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,879 Speaker 1: on the offseason. But if they're going to trade them, 707 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:54,399 Speaker 1: I think it would happen tomorrow, just given the how 708 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: much conversations are had between teams at this time, and 709 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 1: given just the time of the year, so we'll keep 710 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 1: an eye out on that and we will get back 711 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: to you when that is all finalized. Until then, you 712 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 1: can follow me on X at chandler Underscore Room. You 713 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 1: can follow Tyler at Tyler C. Stafford. As always, please 714 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 1: rate and review us on Apple. You can do the 715 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,760 Speaker 1: same on Spotify. You can subscribe to the Rush Shitty 716 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,399 Speaker 1: Territory YouTube channel so you can get notified every time 717 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,800 Speaker 1: we post a new podcast. So farewell to Mauricio Dubon 718 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: Friend of the Pod even though we never came on 719 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: the pod despite telling me multiple times we were close, 720 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: despite telling me multiple times it would come on and 721 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: then things got in the way. So still a friend 722 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 1: of the pod. Great dude, good luck in Atlanta. But 723 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: we will be back to talk about the current members 724 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: of the Astros soon. Until then, thanks for listening. 725 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 2: I always think of you, remember the Sorrow Recess back 726 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 2: in the day. This is always the time of year 727 00:39:49,280 --> 00:40:07,760 Speaker 2: that I think tender bye aspect