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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he

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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 3: I hope everybody had a.

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Speaker 2: Merrier Christmas in the Pittsburgh Steelers ID.

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Speaker 3: Yes. Today.

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Speaker 2: They lose on Wednesday twenty nine to ten to the

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Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs, and it was a lackluster performance by

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Speaker 2: the Steelers to say the least. Yeah, all three phases.

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Speaker 3: Of the game.

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Speaker 2: They were beaten, outplayed and outplayed in that football game.

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Speaker 2: And you know, it's a tough three game stretch. You

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Speaker 2: get a little chance to regroup.

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Speaker 3: It's an understatement, it's a tough three game stretch, but wow,

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Speaker 3: I mean it's you'd like it have gone a little better,

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Speaker 3: a little bit better, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: You know, maybe if they would have had, say the

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Speaker 2: Giants to open this off and kick this thing off,

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Speaker 2: it would have been a little kinder to them.

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Speaker 3: But you still were week fourteen by would week fourteen

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Speaker 3: by what. They didn't do the Texans any good, but

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Speaker 3: you lost.

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Speaker 2: At least they got the they get to win in

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Speaker 2: their first game of this stretch. Oh yeah, yeah, true,

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Speaker 2: because they get you know, but it is what it is.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you can't lose. You can't continually lose the

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Speaker 2: turnover battle, no to good teams.

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Speaker 3: Not to the top teams in the league. No, And

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Speaker 3: that's what these three teams are. They're the top teams

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Speaker 3: in the league.

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Speaker 2: And you know that that's the way it goes. That's

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Speaker 2: what happens when when that happens, and you know, and

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Speaker 2: you can't lose the turnover battle decisively where it turns

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Speaker 2: into a twenty nine to ten loss.

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Speaker 3: I mean, one of the things that stood out to

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Speaker 3: me the most possibly in this game, no matter what

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Speaker 3: unit was on the field, the Steelers made more self

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Speaker 3: inflicted wounds. You know. Now, that doesn't mean they're gonna

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Speaker 3: win every one of their one on one matchups in

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Speaker 3: the trenches or running back corner, you know, winning running

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Speaker 3: versusn edge guy. What he But this was a really

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Speaker 3: clean played game by Kansas City in terms of mistakes

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Speaker 3: made where they missed an extra point that's about the

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Speaker 3: only thing I could come up with a penalty here

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Speaker 3: and there but I mean no blown coverages, you know,

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Speaker 3: going to the right guy coming out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nine pen surprise. Surprised by that. And there were

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Speaker 2: some there were some things that the Steelers, like the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs were three of ten on third downs, which they

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Speaker 2: are like historically great one percent coming into that game.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs average three point was a three point five

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Speaker 2: yards per carry in that game. Their running backs did

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Speaker 2: nothing and that was with a twelve yard Mahome scramble.

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Speaker 3: And their running game was odd to me because I'm

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Speaker 3: almost certain I made a note of it, and you know,

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Speaker 3: the first drive they had like twenty five rushing yards,

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Speaker 3: you know, right off the bat, and then we're like, eh,

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Speaker 3: you know, we're ye, it was too hard and Mahomes

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Speaker 3: throw agains own and that's that was the thing that

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Speaker 3: that stood out to me was it was just a

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Speaker 3: lot of quick passes that kind of supplemented the running game,

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Speaker 3: that extremely wick passes. And that's what I was saying

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Speaker 3: with sharpness. I mean, that was two point three four seconds.

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Speaker 3: It's ridiculous because there's five or six plays that are

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Speaker 3: probably over four seconds and he extended and you know whatnot.

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Speaker 3: So I mean there's a lot of two point ones,

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Speaker 2: The ball was coming out quickly and.

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Speaker 3: To the right plate people, And again that was a

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Speaker 3: really sharp showing by the quarterback. The offense as a

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Speaker 3: hole for Kansas City, And I kept coming back to

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Speaker 3: something that's worried me for a while, But you would

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Speaker 3: think the best counter to that in a perfect world,

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Speaker 3: if you have, you know, the best checkers available, let's

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Speaker 3: press these guys play man well without Porter, you don't.

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Speaker 2: Have you don't have to you know the guy to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you complicate things by even more with

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Speaker 3: communication issues in the red zone and these zone coverages

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Speaker 3: and things and losing track of Kelsey and snowball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was not a pretty performance at all. The

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Speaker 2: Steelers get an opportunity to again take a step back, now,

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Speaker 2: take a breath. You needed a much needed breath, and

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Speaker 2: figure some things out. You know what you're doing, who

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Speaker 2: you're doing it with, how you're doing it, all the above.

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Speaker 2: You get an opportunity. It's almost a little mini buy

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Speaker 2: here too. Yeah, all right, reset this thing like you

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Speaker 2: did after the Browns game and see where it goes

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Speaker 2: from there.

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Speaker 3: And you got a test run against a familiar opponent

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Speaker 3: who's also very dangerous assuming that they are still in it, and.

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Speaker 2: This will be an offense like the offenses that you

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Speaker 2: face are going to face in playoffs.

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Speaker 3: That's what I say. This is a great test run

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Speaker 3: to gear up for the playoffs while you mend some

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Speaker 3: wounds and heal some things. And I didn't watch all

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Speaker 3: of my Tomlins press conference, but I saw snippets and

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Speaker 3: red snippets that he basically said we sucked and nothing's

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Speaker 3: off the table. That's exactly one to hear. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: because he wasn't wrong.

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Speaker 2: No, it was. Now I will say this, So I

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Speaker 2: did some research today and I know Steelers aren't gonna

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Speaker 2: win another game. Blah blah blah whatever. All right, In

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Speaker 2: the last fifteen years, I'm not even going back far here,

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Speaker 2: there have been four instances where the eventual Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: champion went through stretches like this, including at the end

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Speaker 2: of the season eventual Super Bowl champions. So if you

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Speaker 2: go back to two thousand and nine, the Saints lost

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Speaker 2: their last three games of the two thousand and nine

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Speaker 2: season and won the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's not like they're just resting everyone and they've

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Speaker 3: got a four game lead over the rest of the year.

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Speaker 2: Now they started thirteen to zero. Yeah, but then they lost,

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Speaker 2: and then they lost again, and then they rested me.

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Speaker 2: In twenty ten, the Packers, who beat the Steelers in

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl two different times during that season, lost

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Speaker 2: three out of four games really two different times. They

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Speaker 2: finished ten and six that year and won the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Twenty eleven, the Giants lost four games in a row

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Speaker 2: from week ten to thirteen, so again later in the

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Speaker 2: season and won the Super Bowl at nine and seven.

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Speaker 3: Surprised me.

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Speaker 2: In twenty twelve, again, this is four years in a

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Speaker 2: row that the Super Bowl champion.

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Speaker 3: Went through a stress real tough patch. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Twenty twelve, the Ravens lost four of their last five games,

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Speaker 2: including three straight from weeks thirteen through fifteen, won a game,

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Speaker 2: and then lost their regular season finale to finish ten

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Speaker 2: and six. They then beat the Colts, Broncos, Patriots, and

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Speaker 2: forty nine Ers to win the Super Bowl. And then

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one, even more recent history, the Rams

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Speaker 2: lost three games in a row, also lost their regular

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Speaker 2: season finale to finish eleven and five, and then beat

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Speaker 2: the Cardinals, Bucks, forty nine Ers, and Bengals in the

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Speaker 3: Bowl, sure, and there's a million instances of four seed,

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Speaker 3: five seeds, six seeds getting hot at the right time

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Speaker 3: the run Flacco went on. I don't think either one

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Speaker 3: of us are predicting it at the moment.

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Speaker 2: I'm not, but I'm also not predicting, Oh, it's just

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Speaker 2: going to be, you know, one and done in the

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Speaker 2: playoffs ring right right, like if they go to Houston.

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Speaker 3: Houston's worship than Steelers right without a doubt. If you

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Speaker 3: if you flipped over to Netflix for your local audience,

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Speaker 3: it was disaster.

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Speaker 2: They lost thirty one to two, and it wasn't that competitive.

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Speaker 3: This isn't meant to be a cop out for either

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Speaker 3: one of those nons. But Ross Tucker's a friend of mine.

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Speaker 3: Him and I used to do a podcast together. And

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Speaker 3: I was listening to his podcast today because Greg Cosell

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Speaker 3: was on, but he was talking about it afterwards. And

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Speaker 3: Ross did the Steeler game yesterday. He was in town.

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Speaker 3: He was here doing radio or whatever, and I thought

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Speaker 3: this three out of eleven stretch and he agrees with me,

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Speaker 3: it's just brutal on players overall. But I also think,

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Speaker 3: and he agreed with this two on his podcast, that

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Speaker 3: if the Tier one teams are going to be even

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Speaker 3: more of a of a of a stretch over the

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Speaker 2: Funny in these kind of stretches, because I just wrote

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Speaker 2: this from my five thoughts tomorrow five for Friday. In

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Speaker 2: games like that, ye're on we have a four day

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Speaker 2: work week. It accentuates the difference the Jimmy's and Joe's

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Speaker 3: X's and o's exactly exactly.

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Speaker 2: And when you've got Patrick Mahomes yeah, or Lamar or

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Speaker 2: Lamar or someone of that ilk right, your Jimmy and

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Speaker 2: Joe's are going to be a little bit better.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you are. It's you know, like your superheroes get

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Speaker 3: a little more super you know, in the act, you

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Speaker 2: You don't get the game plan. You don't get to

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Speaker 2: spend the week going, Okay, here's what we want to

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Speaker 2: we want to attack this guy, and here's when they

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Speaker 2: do this. We're gonna do that. You don't get a

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I really liked Ros's perspective on that. And then

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Speaker 3: we're actually where I was going more so with what

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Speaker 3: his conversation was, where I looked at the total op

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Speaker 3: is it going into a Christmas Day game. I thought, Man,

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Speaker 3: these road teams are such a disadvantage. You know you're

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Speaker 3: going to be, you know, on your phone with your kids, Daddy,

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Speaker 3: where are you? We got to open press and blah

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Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah. Ross saw it as a player,

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Speaker 3: He's like, No, being a home team on Christmas is

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Speaker 3: horrible because frankly, you're rich. You're probably the richest person

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Speaker 3: in your extended family. You're not from Pittsburgh, so mom

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Speaker 3: and uncle and niece, they all come to your house

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Speaker 3: and you're gotta deal with it. And you know, like,

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Speaker 3: He's like, I would much better be the road team.

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Speaker 3: I get on a plane, I don't hear from anyone

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Speaker 3: for twenty four hours. I get home the tree and

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Speaker 3: festive and eggnog. Win or lose is so much easier Now,

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Speaker 3: I think Houston and Pittsburgh lose that game on the

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Speaker 3: road or in Antarctica. But I hadn't. I thought about

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Speaker 3: it from a totally different perspective after hearing a player's

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Speaker 3: opinion of this is a business trip for me. I

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Speaker 3: don't have to deal with all the nonsense at home

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Speaker 3: on Christmas. Getting my aunt from Mississippi up to Pittsburgh

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Speaker 3: or wherever, you know, like all the real life stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's an interesting perspective. Yeah, yeah, I hadn't thought about it.

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Speaker 3: I've always thought the opposite.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, nobody, nobody is making excuses here for

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Speaker 2: what the Steelers have done in the last three games,

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Speaker 2: not at all.

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Speaker 3: No, No, they lost the game, they've lost bad. They're

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Speaker 3: inferior team. Yeah, but.

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Speaker 2: You know, I just think that in this particular state,

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Speaker 2: if you're playing here's the other problem with playing three

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Speaker 2: games in eleven days.

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Speaker 3: There's a million of them, and it's there's a lot.

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Speaker 3: If you're playing well, you're fine.

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Speaker 2: If you have some stuff happening on your roster with

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Speaker 2: injuries or guys that aren't performing maybe who knows, for

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Speaker 2: whatever reason, aren't performing as well as they had, you

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Speaker 2: don't get a chance to get hard. You don't get

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Speaker 2: Almost, So I you know, I know we both picked

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Speaker 2: we picked. We both picked the Steelers to win yesterday

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Speaker 2: Eagles, Ravens, Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: things happen. Yeah, that doesn't mean that's what's going to

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Speaker 2: It might be you know, just schematic changes on how

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean like that, that's not what's gonna happen. Necessarily.

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Speaker 2: Matt and now will be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly. He is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and Matt with the Steelers loss yesterday

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Speaker 2: to the Kansas City Chiefs. The Chiefs clinched the number

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because right now Baltimore's Buffalo at twelve and three,

438
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,520
Speaker 2: they can't they could technically still catch it. Well, now

439
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,520
Speaker 2: they can't catch the Chiefs. Chiefs only have one game left.

440
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,879
Speaker 2: What am I saying they can't catch him? Buffalo's at

441
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,119
Speaker 2: twelve and three, Baltimore is at eleven and five in

442
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,200
Speaker 2: the three spot, Houston's at the nine. Had to head

443
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:56,639
Speaker 2: the Bill's loss, had to head to the Ravens. So

444
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 2: they need to play this week as if they're.

445
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 3: Right, they go and to the Ravens, go to and

446
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 3: oh and then you go from two to three.

447
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, then you have Houston at nine and seven, they're

448
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 2: in the fourth spot. They can't Uh, they've clinched the division. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

449
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 2: they've clinched the division. So I wonder you know what

450
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 2: they do in terms of tom they can get the three, right,

451
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 2: they can't get to three. They've lost, they've lost the

452
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 2: Ravens and their two games behind them, so they can't

453
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:30,200
Speaker 2: get to three.

454
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,199
Speaker 3: So they're gonna be the four no matter what. Yeah.

455
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 2: The Steelers right now are ten and six. Here's the thing, though,

456
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,119
Speaker 2: the two teams behind them are the Chargers and Broncos,

457
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 2: who they've both beaten head to head. Now, they can

458
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,920
Speaker 2: still finish behind one of those teams if they get

459
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 2: to eleven wins, right right, So, and you know, unless

460
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 2: you want to go to Buffalo or Baltimore.

461
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 3: No, I think you definitely want to go to Houston. Yeah, definitely.

462
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,639
Speaker 3: Real quick, let me stop you, super quick. Think Houston

463
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 3: has two more games, as we know, but they have

464
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 3: a nice one more game. But I saw him break

465
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 3: before it. Do you think they rest everyone for that?

466
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,439
Speaker 2: Yes, they sit people out and there's nothing to be

467
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 2: gained for them, right playing anybody in Week eighteen.

468
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,639
Speaker 3: Agreed, what do you think the Chiefs do though. I

469
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 3: mean they have three weeks until their next game, right,

470
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 3: I mean with the buye, you play them some, you

471
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 3: play like you know, Rush Chriss Jones back, No, I

472
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 3: mean anyone that's on the fringe. But it's a long

473
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 3: time to sit my homes and Worthy in Hollywood, Brown

474
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 3: starting to find himself. You know, I don't know how

475
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 3: much i'd rest those guys.

476
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they kind of play maybe a half

477
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 2: something like that in their next game. You know, this weekend,

478
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 2: I expect Buffalo to play to win.

479
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 3: And then maybe shut it down if they win, then

480
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 3: put it in neutral for a week.

481
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 2: Obviously, the Ravens need to win based on what the

482
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 2: Steelers do, and I expect both of those teams to

483
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 2: play their guys.

484
00:22:59,240 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

485
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, And obviously the Chargers and Broncos both need to win.

486
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 2: If the Chargers and Broncos win this week, it's over.

487
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 3: In terms of whose the playoffs are set. NFL would

488
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 3: hate that now.

489
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 2: The only odd sitting around, The only thing that would

490
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 2: be then decided would still be who's who's going where

491
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 2: in the first round.

492
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we know the seven teams for sure. All

493
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 3: that has happens is a Bronco win and a Charger win.

494
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the Broncos would officially eliminate the Bengals beat

495
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 2: Denver does Denver does, I don't believe the Chargers do.

496
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 2: But the Chargers play the Patriots, Chargers.

497
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 3: By the Patriots and the other game Saturday. But we

498
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 3: might know all that stuff before Sunday kicko. Yeah they are.

499
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 3: I'm getting blurbs on my phone ceedee. Lam's getting shut

500
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 3: down for the year, like it's starting to be that

501
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,919
Speaker 3: time of year for some of these stars.

502
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 2: So we could know by Saturday what's going on the teams.

503
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 3: That are in Saturday evening.

504
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, because again the Chargers play the Patriots.

505
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 3: And half point favorite.

506
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Denver goes two cents and.

507
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 3: They're three and a half point dog, But we know

508
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 3: a lot. Yeah, Denver gets Kansas City I think in

509
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 3: week eighteen, which would probably be a shell of the Chiefs. Yeah,

510
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 3: you know, if it comes to that.

511
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 2: So it's going to be interesting here to see what

512
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 2: happens with those particular games.

513
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 3: There's really starting to shape up quick. Yeah.

514
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, things could really be decided by Saturday.

515
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 3: And Bengals obviously need to win and they could at

516
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 3: least do damage to one of those teams. The Colts

517
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 3: in Miami are in a world hurting too.

518
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're actually in better they're in better shape Indianapolis

519
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 2: or than the Cincinnati.

520
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 3: They better tie breakers. Yeah, okay, yeah, but no, it

521
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,360
Speaker 3: hasn't gone great. But if you're a five season going

522
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 3: to Houston, I don't mind that one bit, you know,

523
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 3: now lay from there. I mean, Houston's a mess right now.

524
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 3: But I'm sure if we were doing Texans Audio Network

525
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 3: would be like, well, they need to break and maybe

526
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 3: they'll get some things for out too. And they are

527
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 3: a talented team.

528
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 2: But here's the thing that the Texans opened the season

529
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 2: five and one. Yeah, hot, hot, hot. So they're now

530
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 2: nine and seven. So just some simple math tells me

531
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 2: they're four and six in their last ten.

532
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 3: And they've lost Tank Dell and they're picking up Deonte

533
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 3: and the line.

534
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 2: It kind of actually coincided with when they when they

535
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 2: lost stuff on Diggs.

536
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was their because Dell wasn't himself then too, right,

537
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 3: They've never been a really small st they've never really

538
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 3: had all three of their guys at the height of

539
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 3: their power. Nico missed a stretch there too, and that's

540
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 3: what they were built to do, and a lot of

541
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 3: times they've had one, you know, Yeah, which you thought

542
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 3: they had an abundance of receivers.

543
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 2: Very similarly to the Steelers, though, I mean you start

544
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 2: looking at some of the stuff. They're like, they lost

545
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 2: a turnover battle in the two short week games they

546
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 2: played three nothing. They had two turnovers against Kansas City,

547
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 2: didn't force any, and they had one yesterday against the

548
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 2: Ravens and didn't force any. Not to it would have

549
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 2: mattered in that game. But no, I mean they lost

550
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 2: to the Chiefs twenty seven nineteen and lost the turnover

551
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 2: battle to nothing.

552
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chiefs have been real claim with that stuff.

553
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

554
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 3: Houston's also taken a ton of penalties. There were I mean,

555
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 3: they were almost a second team to get shut out

556
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 3: if it was for a safety a safety safety is

557
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 3: the only points on the board. Yeah, you think things

558
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 3: are visible around here, they're worse in Houston. Yeah.

559
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 2: They they're the team that turned the Lions over five

560
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 2: times and lost the game. Yeah, like that's really hard

561
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 2: to do.

562
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 3: That must have been a penalty fest and no running

563
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 3: game can't close teams out. Those have been their problems. Yeah,

564
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,360
Speaker 3: and the pass protection is really bad.

565
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 2: So that's where the AFC stands right now. It's pretty

566
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 2: much decided.

567
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 3: It's pretty close.

568
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 2: We'll know a lot more Saturday night.

569
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. I wonder if Seth Walder or Cynthia Freudland or

570
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 3: one of those guys that projects this stuff. What percent

571
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 3: chance do we know even the seven in order? I

572
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 3: bet it's pretty strong.

573
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the Chargers have a two. They have the

574
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 2: sweep over Denver, so they have a tie breaker.

575
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, it seems highly unlikely for it not

576
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 3: to go one through seven. Chiefs, Bills, Ravens, Texans, Steelers, Broncos, Chargers. Yeah,

577
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 3: that's probably what will happen. Chargers, Broncos, Broncos, Broncos.

578
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 2: If you look at the NFC, it's a little more interesting,

579
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 2: although at.

580
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 3: Least there's division races still going on. Tonight's game matters.

581
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: Tonight's game matters a ton You've only got four playoff

582
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 2: spots clinched, which means that the Rams at nine and

583
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: six are leading their division but haven't clinched yet. The

584
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 2: Falcons at eight and seven are leading their division but

585
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 2: haven't clinched yet. Two of the wild cards are already decided,

586
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 2: with Minnesota and Green Bay Washington. Currently, if they get

587
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: a tie in their final two games, they clinch at

588
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 2: least are going. They're probably going, so those are. But

589
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 2: then you got Tampa Bay sitting there at eight and

590
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 2: seven and Seattle at eight and.

591
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 3: Seven, the Lions having clinched division yet, right, Yeah, I

592
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 3: mean the.

593
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: Lions could fall from leading all season long right to

594
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 2: being the number five five yeah.

595
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, Philly's fine, but Hurts has a

596
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 3: concussion and pickets hurt. They might start McKee this week.

597
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 3: I mean, you would think that all gets cleared up

598
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 3: by the playoffs, but all of a sudden, the two

599
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 3: mightiest teams are the ones that are dealing with the

600
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 3: most injuries too. South got really exciting with the Cousins

601
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 3: benching and Tampa losing to Dallas. Seattle is this a

602
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 3: must win for them?

603
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 2: I yeah, they have to win this because the Rams

604
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 2: are nine and six right now. So if Seattle loses

605
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 2: the fall to eight and eight tonight, the Rams would

606
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 2: just need to win one of their final two games

607
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 2: and they play.

608
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 3: I think they have an easy one coming up this week.

609
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 3: They have the Cardinals and Seahawks. Okay, so yeah, if

610
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 3: they beat the Cardinals this week. In the Seahawks lose tonight,

611
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 3: that becomes a moot point. That's done, do you Yeah,

612
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 3: They're a big time favorite in the West, now, yeah,

613
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 3: and the Cardinals. They played the Cardinals this week, right, yeah,

614
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 3: because the Rams are like a seven point favorite, six

615
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 3: and a half or whatever. But I was just seeing

616
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 3: even since I saw that line, Cardinals put both their

617
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 3: offensive tackles on ir. I mean, it's like some of

618
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 3: these teams ain't what they used to be. That's like

619
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 3: in my CD LAMB conversation, like, boy, Dallas is fighting,

620
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 3: but now if you're shutting down your best guys, it's

621
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 3: a heck of a lot different. Now.

622
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 2: Atlanta this week has Washington in Washington.

623
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 3: That's a huge game, a fun game. I think it's

624
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 3: Sunday night.

625
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: And then they get the Panthers who.

626
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 3: Have everything to play for. Yeah, you know. I mean,

627
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 3: they're not going to lay down. So it's do we

628
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 3: know Pennis is good or not? I mean he was

629
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 3: impressive after one week, but you don't know that yet.

630
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 3: We don't.

631
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: You know, can Atlanta's running game carry them past Washington?

632
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 3: I don't know. I bet there are a where's that game?

633
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 3: You know?

634
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: It's in Washington. I assume they're favored by three or

635
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: four or something like that. Yeah, would assume Washington is favored. So,

636
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 2: I mean Tampa Bay's looking just going, Okay, we.

637
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 3: Got to Tampa lose the Dallas. That was a killer

638
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 3: in the head.

639
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 2: It was a killer. They get the Panthers this week

640
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 2: and then the Saints, so they're.

641
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 3: Probably be two and oh, they're definitely gonna be one

642
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 3: and one and worse, they're gonna Panthers are dangerous. Panthers

643
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 3: are dangerous laughing sock.

644
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's there's some stuff there that you know,

645
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 2: they could still happen in the NFC, and.

646
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 3: And certainly unpredictability in the NFC.

647
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 2: I mean Detroit.

648
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 3: I don't know if Detroit should win Division.

649
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be could you match they play? They're

650
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 2: at San Francisco this week.

651
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 3: I'm sure they're favored, but still, and then the brand

652
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 3: hasn't laid down. No, they're playing deebo and Kittle and

653
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 3: Boast have played last week. Trent Williams is out.

654
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 2: But and then they're playing the Vikings at home. That's

655
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 2: the key last game of the season, right. If both

656
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Speaker 2: of those teams win this week, there's your standalone game.

657
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Speaker 3: The Vikings they go to and they win. Yeah, and

658
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 3: they got Green Bay this week, so it's two games. Yeah,

659
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 3: and the Packers.

660
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 2: You know, you want you want to look at the

661
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: Steelers and say, well, you know, they lost all these

662
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: games to all the good teams on their schedule.

663
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 3: Not true, she isn't true.

664
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Speaker 2: They've beaten some goods. Three yeah, the last three have been.

665
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: Here are the Packers losses, Eagles, Vikings, both at home,

666
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: by the way, although the Eagles game was in in

667
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Speaker 2: the Brazil.

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00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 3: Oh that was Week one.

669
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Speaker 2: Loston, the Lions at home, lost in Detroit, and that's

670
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 2: their four losses right now. Like the best teams in

671
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: the league, they're wins. They've beaten the Colts, the Titans,

672
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 2: the Rams. Early in the season before the Rams were healthy,

673
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 2: they beat the Cardinals. They do have a win over

674
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Speaker 2: the Texans twenty four to twenty two. Okay, yeah, yeah,

675
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 2: but that was at home. They beat the Jaguars, they

676
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: beat the Bears. They beat the forty nine ers at home,

677
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 2: but that was the everybody was out for the forty

678
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Speaker 2: nine ers in that game. Beat the Dolphins, Okay, lost

679
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: in the lines. Beat the Seahawks lost in Seattle.

680
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Speaker 3: That's nice.

681
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 2: That's that's the nicest win. That's their their best win, and.

682
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,239
Speaker 3: All their losses are respectable losses. Yeah, you know they

683
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 3: don't have a Raiders one on there or something like that, right, But.

684
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Speaker 2: If they had played the let's say, for example, they

685
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: played a stretch where they played the Eagles, the Lions,

686
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Speaker 2: and the Vikings three games and three and went oh

687
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 2: and three, would people be saying out teams garbage?

688
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 3: See? I was going to bring that up for the

689
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Speaker 3: Vikings just now, because they play what Packers Lions.

690
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, if they lose both of those.

691
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 3: Games by thirty points total, lose them both, does that

692
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 3: mean they're dead? I mean, were they a joke all along? Yeah?

693
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 3: I don't probably see it that way. We'll see how

694
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Speaker 3: they play out, but they could easily go oh and

695
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 3: two here. Yeah, that's tough stretch.

696
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 2: I mean, any team, you look at any team schedule. Again,

697
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 2: I mentioned Buffalo in the first segment, like when they

698
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 2: played Houston and Baltimore on the road back to back

699
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: and got smoked in both of those games. Well, they

700
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: didn't get smoked against Houston, but they got smoked again.

701
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 2: They got ross Roy Bay the ball.

702
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 3: They got this.

703
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 2: One of the worst beatdowns of the season. Nobody's saying

704
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: that's a bad football team, right right. I mean it's

705
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 2: a lot of recency bias too. There's a ton of

706
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: recency bias and and.

707
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 3: So and Frankly, the Steelers were the start of the

708
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 3: season with these three games and done everything else since

709
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 3: they'd be fourth in the power ranks.

710
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Speaker 2: And yeah, the Steelers are on a roll and they're

711
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, I mean that's just how it goes.

712
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 2: I understand, of course, you know, it's it's always about

713
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: recency bias.

714
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 3: I mean, what happened Week one doesn't matter much.

715
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: Every time I see somebody tweet out something about this

716
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 2: guy is the best player of whatever, I'm like, Barry Sanders,

717
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: like the best college football player ever. I'm like, Barry Sanders.

718
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 3: Exists before you. Yeah.

719
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of dudes out of Earl Campbell

720
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 2: was was a thing exactly right.

721
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 3: Funny brought up Earl Campbell. My eighteen year old asked me,

722
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 3: Derreck Henry like the hardest guy to tackle in NFL history.

723
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 3: I'm like no, He's like, well, give me a couple.

724
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, Bett's He's like, okay, I remember for

725
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 3: better enough. I'm like Earl Campbell. He's like, you'd rather

726
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 3: tackle or Henry all day in Earld Campbell like times

727
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 3: a thousand and Henry's awesome, But you stand up and

728
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 3: look at me.

729
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 2: Earl Campbell's thighs were as big as my waist. I mean,

730
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 2: I imagine running into that.

731
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Speaker 3: This league is seen is remarkable, right yeah.

732
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Speaker 2: I mean so any time that somebody tweets something like

733
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 2: that out like this guy's the best of this or

734
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 2: and it's always somebody or they'll tweet out a list

735
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 2: of the here are the ten best college football players.

736
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: It's it's ten guys from like the last five years. Like,

737
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: come on, Yeah, recency bias is a thing. I get it,

738
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 2: but you might want to do a little bit of homework.

739
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what makes sports so great. I mean, there's

740
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 3: so many great teams, players, traditions. You know, before all

741
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 3: these guys do standing on each other shoulders.

742
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this playoff stuffs interesting.

743
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 3: But AFC is maybe not that interesting anymore. It might

744
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 3: be pretty darn settled.

745
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 2: It might be pretty settled. And and you know, I

746
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 2: think that the the top three team are the top

747
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 2: three teams doesn't mean that you can't beat any of them.

748
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 2: And the Steelers do have a win over the Ravens.

749
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 3: Yeah this season.

750
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 2: Somebody came at me in the on the message board

751
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: on our YouTube channel, Steelers haven't beaten a good quarterback

752
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 2: all season? Like really, they beat Lamar, they beat Burrow.

753
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they're pretty good. Those guys are pretty yeah.

754
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, who's better than those two guys right now?

755
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: Aren't many? And they beat them?

756
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 3: Yeah they have. So it's not over yet, folks. No

757
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 3: times are gloomy and the grenches out. I totally get it,

758
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 3: and I understand.

759
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: They deserve all the vitriol. Here's the other thing. Don't

760
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 2: come at Matt and I. We didn't play a down

761
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: of this. And guess what, Nobody live over at the

762
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: facility listens to what we have to say about anything

763
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 2: like that. Nobody comes to Matt and say, Matt, you're

764
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 2: a former scout. What are you seeing that's going on here?

765
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 3: No?

766
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: No, And I'll say, hey, Dale, you're here at every practice.

767
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: What do you see?

768
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 3: It's no a different podcasts I did. I got a

769
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 3: comment today. You picked the Steelers to win this game.

770
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 3: You're an idiot. I'm like, Okay, that's fine. I mean

771
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 3: I don't have a crystal ball. I don't get every

772
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:10,919
Speaker 3: game right.

773
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing if I did right, right,

774
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: right right.

775
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 3: But yeah, so be it. That's fine. I'm us sure it.

776
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but uh yeah, Matt and I didn't play a down. No,

777
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,959
Speaker 2: we didn't coach anything. We didn't drop the game plan

778
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 2: or anything like that.

779
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 3: It's trying to present the way this is going for you, yeah,

780
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 3: for them, and it is what. It is.

781
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 2: Not great right now, no, absolutely, but we're going to

782
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 2: get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson. I

783
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 2: am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here on

784
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network, Matt and now will be back

785
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 2: with more right after this.

786
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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

787
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

788
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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio, and.

789
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Speaker 2: We are back. I am Dale LOLLI he is the

790
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt I couldn't help with thinking yesterday

791
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 2: I was watching Xavier Worthy play him like, how would

792
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 2: the Steelers season have been had they drafted? And I

793
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 2: love the Troy Filaton who pick. I think he's going

794
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 2: to be a great him. Unfortunately for him, he got hurt.

795
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 2: He's played one game this year for the Steelers and

796
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 2: got hurt.

797
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 3: They've got nothing out of them, and we do that,

798
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 3: and unfortunately, I know you brought a receiver for a reason,

799
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 3: Roman Wilson. Also you haven't gotten out of so you've

800
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 3: gotten the double WHAMMYE at that spot a little bit.

801
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 2: You know, how how different would their season have looked

802
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 2: if the Steelers had drafted him or if they Steelers

803
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: are drafted Brent Thomas, who went three picks after them.

804
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 2: The Steelers even had drafted Quinya Mitchell for that matters.

805
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 3: You know, Jean Or we got something out of a

806
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 3: first round pick. I think it is your point here,

807
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 3: not really? Yeah, is bad?

808
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 2: No, Again, I still have high hopes for Troy Filotano.

809
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be a great player in the NFL.

810
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: But he's not helping you right now.

811
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 3: No, it'd be nice to have be nice to have that, Yeah,

812
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 3: I mean, how many teams have not gotten really anything

813
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 3: out of their first round pick this year? There's not many.

814
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 2: So I thought we'd looked through that first round real quickly.

815
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: Here and so Caleb we went kind of did this

816
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 2: last week when every team picked their or.

817
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 3: Their power rank rank a couple of days ago. I

818
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 3: guess it was early, Yeah, it was two days ago. Yeah.

819
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 2: So Caleb Williams, They've gotten a lot out of him

820
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 2: with Chicago. Jane Daniels, Yeah, gotten a lot out of him.

821
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 2: Drake may New England's gotten a.

822
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 3: Lot more in class I am bought in. Marvin Harrison

823
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 3: isn't all disappointing.

824
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 2: It's an interesting He has fifty one catches for seven

825
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty six yards and seven touchdowns. Okay, in

826
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 2: most years you look at that as a rookie wide

827
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 2: receiver and.

828
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 3: Go, oh, that's that's all right, quite good. Right.

829
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 2: The problem is is you've got some of the other

830
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: guys in this draft who are just blowing up with

831
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 2: their teams.

832
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, and frankly, if you were redrafting, I don't think

833
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 3: he'd be wide receiver. One. I'm not sure he'd be

834
00:38:59,000 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 3: wide receive.

835
00:38:59,560 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 2: Two.

836
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 3: Not certain to be wide is he were three. I'm

837
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 3: definitely taking Thomas and Neighbors over him. And I think

838
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 3: you can make a case for mccaucky. Yeah, I mean,

839
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's a bad player, but he didn't

840
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 3: run a forty and he doesn't look super fast, and

841
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 3: he's a good prospect, but he's not a transcendent prospect,

842
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 3: you know, like everyone thought he was.

843
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the Chargers are happy with Joe Alt, although, yeah,

844
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 2: he's had some rookie growing pains. Tackles are never going

845
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: to blow your doors off a year one. Giants are

846
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 2: happy with neighbors. Yes, at six, Tennessee with j C.

847
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 2: Latham at seven.

848
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 3: He's been up and down too. He's at least a building.

849
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 2: Block Michael Penix, the book is And by the.

850
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 3: Way, both of those tackles had to switch sides, right,

851
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 3: you know, compound of batters Penix there. I mean right now,

852
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 3: they're very happy they made that pick and didn't take

853
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 3: Dallas Turner or whoever.

854
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 2: Romadunzie for Chicago at nine has fifty one catches for

855
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 2: seven hundred and one yards and three touchdowns.

856
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's passing the eyeball test. Keenan Allen's really

857
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 3: been picking it up lately. Yeah, they're pecking orders. He's

858
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 3: still three as a rookie, but Allen's free agent after

859
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 3: the year. I think they're quite happy with the pick. J. J.

860
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 2: McCarthy is kind of like Filatano you've gotten. Yeah, uh,

861
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 2: ol Fashanu for the Jets. They just put him on

862
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 2: ir got hurt again. Yeah, bo Nicks obviously Denver is happy. Yeah,

863
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: yeah with that pick. Rock Bauers, same thing. Pretty good

864
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: first round up to this point. Yeah, it really is. Yeah.

865
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Speaker 2: Talisi Fluaga, he's done well.

866
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think I didn't think left tackle was him

867
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 3: at all, but he's done quite well. Switching sides.

868
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Speaker 2: Lay two with the Colts has for SAX season. I

869
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 2: thought he would be more impactful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. He was my preseason defensive Rookie of the Year

871
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 3: because I thought he was much more NFL.

872
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 2: Ready not going to happen.

873
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 3: No, No, he'll probably be sixth than the voting, you

874
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Like he's not gonna be the

875
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,439
Speaker 3: top few, but that doesn't mean it's a bad year.

876
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 2: Byron Murphy with Seattle.

877
00:40:59,000 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 3: He missed some times.

878
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 2: He's played twelve games, Yeah, but he's a solid player.

879
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 2: Dallas Turner with Minnesota.

880
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 3: You played a little this past week, but they have

881
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 3: really yeah him back. Yeah.

882
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 2: Amarus Mims with the Bengals.

883
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 3: I would say they're happy, probably I'll kick this coverage.

884
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 3: If they planned on red shirting him the whole year,

885
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 3: I mean, that wasn't the plan for him whatsoever. But

886
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 3: the guy ahead of him was also super injury prone.

887
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 3: You can't be shocked that he went. Can't be shocked. Yeah, yeah,

888
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 3: but I think they got a you know, a long

889
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 3: time starting right tackle or a minimum.

890
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Jared Verse to the Rams at nineteen star.

891
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,959
Speaker 3: Yeah. I say he's gonna be one of the best

892
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 3: guys in the league. But he's probably happy of that pick. Yeah.

893
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 2: Then you had Flatano at twenty Chop Robinson's amazing he

894
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 2: fell that far. Yeah, Chop Robinson the Miami at twenty

895
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: one last.

896
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 3: Month or so. It has been really good for him.

897
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 3: I think they're six secs and quite happy with it. Yeah, QUINNYA.

898
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 2: Mitchell at twenty two, great Brian Thomas at twenty three

899
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 2: to Jacks Rate, Terry and Arnold with the Lions.

900
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 3: I think you chalk it up if you're in his corner,

901
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 3: that rookie corners struggle a lot and take a lot

902
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 3: of penalty.

903
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's taking a lot.

904
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 3: A lot of guys aroun don't getting hurt, but they're

905
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 3: not out of the Woods on that one. No.

906
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: Jordan Morgan with the Packers.

907
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 3: I assume he's been a starter start to finish. He's

908
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 3: only played in six games, brilliant. I don't know his story.

909
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 3: I mean he started the season. I think is one

910
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 3: of the starting guards on IR too, I believe. So

911
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 3: that adds up. So I haven't heard that name since

912
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 3: been a while. I forgot about it.

913
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 2: Graham Barton with Tampa Bay really good, Yeah.

914
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 3: Really good. I mean they may rather have Frasier, but

915
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 3: they're not complaining with the guy they got.

916
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 2: Arizona took Darius Robinson at twenty seven. That hasn't worked out.

917
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 2: He's played four.

918
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he came back like a week or

919
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 3: two ago. Yeah, So totally incomplete grade.

920
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: Xavier Worthy stepping up lately. Yeah, Tyler Geiton at twenty

921
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,439
Speaker 2: nine to Dallas up.

922
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 3: And down, and he's had a little bit of injuries

923
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 3: too and had to switch sides. Yeah, that's an incomplete grade.

924
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 2: Nate Wiggins in Baltimore, I would.

925
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 3: Say good, not great, not great, Yeah, not great.

926
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 2: Ricky Piersoll with San Francisco.

927
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 3: He's been a ghost.

928
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, seventeen catches for one hundred and ninety yards and.

929
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 3: Even though he's I don't know how healthy he truly is,

930
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 3: but after getting shot, but I mean he was not

931
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 3: stepping up in any way.

932
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, then you had Xavier get to finish out the

933
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 2: first round at thirty two to the Carolina Panthers forty

934
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 2: one for four thirty nine and four touchdowns.

935
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 3: I don't know how many games he's been into. I

936
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 3: think he's missed three or four.

937
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 2: Like that's kind of the kind of numbers there that

938
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 2: I thought Roam Wilson might have this season for the Steelers.

939
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 2: I know, people he's gonna be the number two. I'm like,

940
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 2: I looked at him as a three.

941
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's sure who the two would be at the time,

942
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 3: but I didn't expect Wilson to be the two.

943
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: No, nor did I.

944
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 3: I am encouraged for next year though I don't know

945
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 3: what Wilson is. But Wilson and Austin, I'm glad they're fireable.

946
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah right. I mean one has still has

947
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 3: a lot of to be written. Austin has written a

948
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,479
Speaker 3: lot of his story. They're both smaller, so my wide

949
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 3: receiver acquisitions probably won't look like them, right, you know,

950
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 3: but we got that part squared away I think.

951
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 2: I'm just looking at some of the other picks beyond that,

952
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: and Kean Coleman in Buffalo has been.

953
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 3: All those end of round one, not Mconkie. From Worthy

954
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 3: to Mconkie, there was a ton of picks not great.

955
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 3: Polk's been terrible. Yeah, Mconkey's the one to take first

956
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 3: by far of that group.

957
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 2: You know, really, if you start looking at the second round,

958
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 2: it's it's the Mconkie, Jerson, Newton, Tovandre.

959
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 3: Sweat, I'm sure Sweats as good ass.

960
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 2: Brayden Fisk has been has been good, Degene has been

961
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 2: good with with Philadelphia.

962
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 3: You're just looking through the hits, Yeah, Frasier.

963
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: Kamari Lassiter has been.

964
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's come on and going to.

965
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 2: I don't know about Jackson powers Johnson he starts, but yeah,

966
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 2: edgrind Cooper's been good at.

967
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 3: Cooper's really been revelation lately. I would say it's an

968
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 3: average second round, not yeah, maybe some stars and Santstril

969
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 3: has been fine. Yeah, yeah, and I think has been good.

970
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

971
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 3: Beyond that, who was the last thing he said, Zach Fraser,

972
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, obviously Donnie Mitchell has done next to nothing. Yeah,

973
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 3: weird situation there's a lot of mouths to feed with.

974
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 3: The quarterback doesn't complete passes, but I mean i'd love

975
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 3: him to be on the Steelers roster at the moment,

976
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 3: but he's an incomplete grade.

977
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:41,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. Javon Bullard to Green Bay has been pretty good.

978
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

979
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cole Bishop is starting to do some things for

980
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 2: Buffalo a little bit.

981
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 3: Huh.

982
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 2: Then you know, Rinardo Green with San Francisco has had

983
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 2: to play a lot, but nothing special.

984
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think they're happy enough with them.

985
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, so, I mean it's it's been kind of

986
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 2: a you know, the first round was I think really good.

987
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 3: Lot of it was heavy, top heavy draft. Yeah, obviously

988
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 3: the offensive guys rule today. Quarterbacks ruled today on Day

989
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:11,959
Speaker 3: one of the draft. I think it could. I would

990
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 3: say it could be a historic quarterback class. By that,

991
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 3: I don't mean River's been and Eli, you know, like

992
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 3: Hall of Famers galore or even Herbert Burrow hurts to

993
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 3: uh love. I mean, that's maybe two Hall of Famers

994
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 3: in there and three really good ones. But this the

995
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 3: league needed this class, you know, and after the Picket

996
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 3: class and what looks like next year's class is gonna

997
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 3: be really light. It might look back at this be like,

998
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 3: but those five quality starters in that group.

999
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 2: Of course, we also you know, three years from now,

1000
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 2: we could have completely different on different teams, Sam Arnold

1001
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: and right, just how that goes. Mayfield has been on

1002
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 2: a bunch of teams. Yeah right, absolutely, Mayfield was rookie

1003
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 2: of the year. Yeah right, he was the best of that group.

1004
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 2: Let's get to a break. That's going to do it

1005
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Speaker 2: for hour number one of the drive here on the

1006
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Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network. Matt now back with our number two

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Speaker 2: right after this