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Speaker 2: show for us today. It's our gambling show as promised.
Speaker 2: Just like last year, right around week ten, right around Thanksgiving,
Speaker 2: I have turned my season around. I believe I am
Speaker 2: right at five hundred. I might be one game below
Speaker 2: five hundred, but regardless, we feel great about where I am.
Speaker 2: I am also disappointed in Demonse's teasers, but not for
Speaker 2: the reason that people think. I'm not disappointed that Demonse
Speaker 2: has gotten eight teasers in a row. Wrong. That's not
Speaker 2: what's disappointing. What's disappointing Demonse is that week two you
Speaker 2: got it right, because had you like being one and
Speaker 2: nine just sucks being zero to ten, we could have
Speaker 2: turned it into a bit. We might have gotten some
Speaker 2: like a little internet traction like this sports betting expert
Speaker 2: can't hit a teaser save his life. The win in
Speaker 2: week two is what is right now the fly in
Speaker 2: the ointment. But I haven't looked at it yet. I mean,
Speaker 2: well at this point, yeah, but it's just not as fun.
Speaker 2: The fact that you have that one win mixed in
Speaker 2: and the win came early enough.
Speaker 3: Oh wait, was the last win made it to where no,
Speaker 3: you could.
Speaker 2: Still be five hundred. I mean, there's eighteen week regular season,
Speaker 2: so all you got to do is go from losing
Speaker 2: eight in a row to winning eight in a row
Speaker 2: and you'll be right there. And by the way, I
Speaker 2: haven't looked at the teaser yet this week, but producer
Speaker 2: Danegel said he loves it, and so we'll see. All right,
Speaker 2: So let's get to what missed the cut for today's show.
Speaker 2: Lebron passing, Jason Kidding triple doubles. Listen, last year, the
Speaker 2: oldest guy in the league was Janis Haslam, who was
Speaker 2: essentially a coach who didn't play this year. The oldest
Speaker 2: guy in the league is Lebron James, who is still
Speaker 2: unequivocally one of the seven or eight best players in
Speaker 2: the league. I don't even know how to quantify what
Speaker 2: we're seeing, but the Lakers did lose. A d had
Speaker 2: a brutal night. He put up the true Draymond a
Speaker 2: triple single, which you never want to do. Celtics beat
Speaker 2: the seventy six Ers. The big win for your Celtics, Demanse.
Speaker 2: Nice win for them, especially because the Sixers had beaten
Speaker 2: them the other day and now the Celtics kind of
Speaker 2: stabilized and they did it without I'll be honest, I
Speaker 2: didn't watch that game. They did it without Christaps or
Speaker 2: Jail and Brown, right, and so that's an excellent win
Speaker 2: for them. They're number one of these right now. And
Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift's parents are gonna meet at
Speaker 2: Monday night football. Taylor's dad famously an Eagles fan, but
Speaker 2: was wearing a Chief's lanyard at the Buenos Ardes concert
Speaker 2: along with Travis Kelcey when Taylor ran and leapt into
Speaker 2: his arms. It's gonna be I mean, it's gonna be
Speaker 2: something else, you know what. I'll tell you something real quick.
Speaker 2: So your mom, oh wait, gosh, darn it, maybe I
Speaker 2: shouldn't hold on, let me wait to talk about this.
Speaker 2: It's not actually a bad thing about your mom. It's
Speaker 2: about a thing your mom and I are doing that.
Speaker 2: I was considering inviting Travis Kelcey to and then it
Speaker 2: occurred to me. I was like, if I invited Travis
Speaker 2: and he actually came, would he would that then mean
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift is going, which actually I think would potentially
Speaker 2: be as cool as it would be a bad thing.
Speaker 2: Like if Taylor Swift goes anywhere, she becomes the center
Speaker 2: of attention and the exact event that I'm thinking of,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if you would want that, but that's
Speaker 2: where they're at in their relationship. Tomanse, I think these
Speaker 2: two are gonna get married. I really do. I think
Speaker 2: these two are gonna get married. And I think Gabe
Speaker 2: said I think this was off the air, but I'll
Speaker 2: do it on the air real quick. I think Gabe
Speaker 2: last week was said that he thought this might shorten
Speaker 2: Travis's career because he is well of ascended to a
Speaker 2: totally new level of fame, wealth, all of these things.
Speaker 2: I'm going the other way, which is I really think
Speaker 2: it would appear Taylor Swift loves that her boyfriend is
Speaker 2: this awesome athlete. You know. Kevin Wilde says life is
Speaker 2: high school, that just life is just high school with adults,
Speaker 2: and his theory on Taylor Swift Travis Kelcey is the following,
Speaker 2: and it's a pretty sharp one. It's that in high school,
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift was the band girl, the music girl who
Speaker 2: obviously had you know her because she was pretty. She
Speaker 2: was a pretty well established musician, very young, had her
Speaker 2: own area of popularity. But still in high school, the
Speaker 2: star athletes don't really pay attention to the band kids.
Speaker 2: And now she is now the star athlete, the homecoming king,
Speaker 2: if you will. Is he enamored with her and she
Speaker 2: is getting to live out all those high school football
Speaker 2: games that maybe she didn't get to live out when
Speaker 2: she was in high school. So I think he's gonna
Speaker 2: play forever. Now go ahead.
Speaker 3: Sorry, No, I was just saying, it's almost like I
Speaker 3: think I was gonna use a bad analogy, so I'm
Speaker 3: going to back out saying like, maybe okay, good body
Speaker 3: as a kid and like liveously through them. But oh yeah, no,
Speaker 3: that's I mean that it's it's exactly like it's kind
Speaker 3: of hit or missing.
Speaker 2: It's not exactly, but I understand what you're saying, like
Speaker 2: in this, in that analogy, it was I mean all
Speaker 2: I mean, I kind of not in a bad way
Speaker 2: the way some people do, but I kind of did
Speaker 2: that with you when it came to your high school
Speaker 2: basketball career because I loved I know you, I know
Speaker 2: you weren't no no, no, because usually it kind of has
Speaker 2: nefarious implications. But I loved high school basketball. It's some
Speaker 2: of the fondest memories of my life. But I wasn't great,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I was I was on
Speaker 2: a small school, bad team, and I was like the
Speaker 2: fifth guy my senior year on that bad team. You
Speaker 2: went to a giant school and were the best guy,
Speaker 2: and so I got it was super fun for me
Speaker 2: to be able to see you live that out and
Speaker 2: kind of I don't want to say live vicariously, but
Speaker 2: I got some of the same thrills of seeing you
Speaker 2: do it. Uh what. There was Oh one other thing
Speaker 2: on this before we get to the actual show that
Speaker 2: I will say, it's always dangerous in the age of
Speaker 2: social media when you get to a whole new level
Speaker 2: of fame, and people start going through old tweets, and
Speaker 2: especially if you've had tweets from when you were in
Speaker 2: high school yourself, and it has been absolutely delightful to
Speaker 2: see that Travis has always been the same, super chill,
Speaker 2: fun guy. All these old tweets that the swiftnies are
Speaker 2: coming about is like him misspelling the word squirrel and
Speaker 2: talking about feeding a squirrel bread. It's him saying, man,
Speaker 2: the moon looks amazing. I'm just gonna vibe out and
Speaker 2: watch the moon. It's no misogyny, it's no homophobia, it's
Speaker 2: no racism. It's not like, oh, Travis Kelcey in ninth
Speaker 2: grade it was super problematic. It's no Travis Kelcey in
Speaker 2: ninth grade was crazy high, just chilling.
Speaker 4: And it's just such a delight because he's such a
Speaker 4: good dude that he doesn't have to It really feels
Speaker 4: like right now he is living the best verse, the
Speaker 4: best life he possibly could be.
Speaker 2: All right, let's get to Chiefs Eagles.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, All right, the Eagles are coming to Kansas
Speaker 3: City for a little Super Bowl rematch. Got unfinished business?
Speaker 3: Uh so, if this is a potential Super Bowl rematch,
Speaker 3: should Andy Reid and the Chiefs keep some tricks under
Speaker 3: their sleeve or should they let it all out?
Speaker 2: Well, so that's actually a really interesting question, which is
Speaker 2: do you want to keep some things in reserve if
Speaker 2: you have to play this team again? And the answer
Speaker 2: to that question is, you know, yes and no. I
Speaker 2: for instance, there has been a lot of I'm gonna
Speaker 2: take this kind of bigger picture and then we'll get
Speaker 2: to the Eagles game. A lot of questions about the
Speaker 2: usage of two Chief players in particular, who were wildly
Speaker 2: important last year and this year have seen their snaps
Speaker 2: and their opportunities cut. And that's Kadarius Tony and Jeric McKinnon.
Speaker 2: And I am of and this is by the way,
Speaker 2: very polarizing within kind of the Chief's community, if you will,
Speaker 2: about what's happening. Did McKinnon get old? Is Tony just
Speaker 2: not as good as people thought he was? All these things?
Speaker 2: I am strongly of the belief that the Chiefs know
Speaker 2: with Tony he cannot stay healthy for an entire season.
Speaker 2: That has been the knock on him his whole pro career.
Speaker 2: And McKinnon is a running back into his thirties. I want,
Speaker 2: I mean, how old is Jet McKinnon. I'm gonna check
Speaker 2: for it. I think he's He's thirty two, which for
Speaker 2: a running back, or thirty one, pardon me for running back,
Speaker 2: makes him one of the older running backs the league.
Speaker 2: Tony's very young, but injury prone. Jeric McKinnon, who had
Speaker 2: the nine touchdown catches as a running back last year.
Speaker 2: He's really good. So I believe the Chiefs are not
Speaker 2: necessarily like saving plays, but saving wear and tear on
Speaker 2: those two players specifically. I think that they are really
Speaker 2: trying to make sure those guys are give them the
Speaker 2: best chance they have of being healthy going into the
Speaker 2: or going into the stretched run. Now, now, when it
Speaker 2: comes to playing the Eagles, I wouldn't hold anything reserve
Speaker 2: in reserve, with one exception if by some chance, and
Speaker 2: the odds of this being the case are incredibly low,
Speaker 2: but if by some chance, Steve Spagnolo, the Chiefs defensive coordinator,
Speaker 2: has figured out how to stop the brotherly shove, I
Speaker 2: wouldn't show the world that I figured that out yet.
Speaker 2: If somehow he is actually like they have realized, wait,
Speaker 2: there is a way to stop it. Here's what we do,
Speaker 2: I would keep that in reserve. But other than that
Speaker 2: you try to go win this football game because you
Speaker 2: are in such an advantageous position for being able to
Speaker 2: get the one seed that the big story from a
Speaker 2: Chiefs perspective this weekend was the Chiefs hit a five
Speaker 2: team parlay on best case scenario losses. So the Dolphins
Speaker 2: didn't play. They lead the AFC East, but the last
Speaker 2: time they did play, the Chiefs meet them. But this
Speaker 2: weekend without playing, the AFC North leader Ravens lost, the
Speaker 2: AFC South leader Jaguars lost, a team that has given
Speaker 2: the Chiefs some trouble. The Bengals lost, a team that
Speaker 2: a lot of people thought was going to this was
Speaker 2: going to be the year. The Bills they lost and
Speaker 2: fired their coordinator, and a team that I have no
Speaker 2: fear of whatsoever, but is in the division and theoretically
Speaker 2: could try to run down the Chiefs for the division title.
Speaker 2: The Chargers they lost. So all of the teams the
Speaker 2: Chiefs would have wanted to lose this weekend lost, and
Speaker 2: so their ability to lock up the one seed earlier
Speaker 2: than expected is very possible. Now, if you're going to
Speaker 2: lose a game, you always want to lose non conference
Speaker 2: games rather than conference games. But beating Philly off the
Speaker 2: buy would send a signal to the rest of the
Speaker 2: league that a lot of the hand ringing about the
Speaker 2: Chiefs was overstated. And one other kind of long term
Speaker 2: prediction when you look at the schedule, I think, so
Speaker 2: Week seventeen, second to last week of the year, on
Speaker 2: New Year's Eve, the Bengals come to Arrowhead, also known
Speaker 2: if you're a Cincinnati fan as Burrowhead Stadium. I think
Speaker 2: two things are gonna happen in that nationally televised one
Speaker 2: of the games of the year, demanse. I think the
Speaker 2: Chiefs will lock up the one seed with a week
Speaker 2: to play, and I think the Bengals will be officially
Speaker 2: eliminated from the playoffs. I think with a week left.
Speaker 2: Because the Bengals, when we'll talk about them in a moment,
Speaker 2: they lose tonight, they fall to five and five, they
Speaker 2: damn they don't have to quite run the table. They
Speaker 2: probably have to go to six and one the rest
Speaker 2: of the way. I think that is going to be
Speaker 2: the final Burrowhead Stadium revenge is the Chiefs not eliminating
Speaker 2: them from the playoffs while locking up the one seed.
Speaker 2: On December thirty, first and Week seventeen. You have a
Speaker 2: follow up here de Manse.
Speaker 3: Oh, well, I mean I feel like you kind of
Speaker 3: answered it. But this game Mahomes is obvious. You said
Speaker 3: the Mahomes has never lost to meaningful regular season game.
Speaker 3: With everything riding on this one and and being at home,
Speaker 3: and you know it being the Eagles, who they played
Speaker 3: in the super Bowl last year, would this be a
Speaker 3: meaningful game?
Speaker 2: Well, I want to say so. People I think have
Speaker 2: misconstrued what I'm saying by never lost a meaningful regular
Speaker 2: season game. It's to me it's a very binary question.
Speaker 2: Did losing this game cost you anything? And if for
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, they every single playoff game has been played
Speaker 2: at Arrowhead, they've either been the one or the two
Speaker 2: seed every year, you can make the strong argument that
Speaker 2: all of their regular season losses have been relatively speaking,
Speaker 2: meaningless because they still achieved everything you can achieve in
Speaker 2: a regular season. If the Chiefs end up losing this
Speaker 2: game and still being the one seed, you can't you
Speaker 2: can't get more than the one seed. So from that perspective,
Speaker 2: I would say I am saying meaningless. From a mojo
Speaker 2: or confidence or belief perspective, if you were to play
Speaker 2: this team again in the Super Bowl. You could say
Speaker 2: it's meaningful. There, go ahead, what what were you gonna say?
Speaker 3: No? I was just gonna say how much is confidence
Speaker 3: worth to you? Because I mean when players like I
Speaker 3: know that after I'm not going to bring it back
Speaker 3: to Game one of the season anymore. This last time fine,
Speaker 3: But when they lost the Lions, Mahomes had said obviously
Speaker 3: this didn't matter because they won the next game. But
Speaker 3: Mahomes is embarrassed. I don't think I've ever heard him
Speaker 3: say anything.
Speaker 2: Well, embarrassed different. Embarrassed is different than not confident. So
Speaker 2: I think confidence matters a lot for certain teams. I
Speaker 2: think the Bills confidence has been shattered and you're seeing
Speaker 2: it manifest itself in moments such as literally not being
Speaker 2: able to execute a handoff. I mean that fumble they
Speaker 2: have on Monday Night. They lack of confidence in the
Speaker 2: coaching seft to where they're firing offensive coordinators. I think
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, because they have had a nearly unprecedented run
Speaker 2: of success, are as confident as any team in the
Speaker 2: league no matter what happens. And I'll say we're talking confidence,
Speaker 2: I'll say this much. Let me put it like this,
Speaker 2: I think this game is way more meaningful for Philadelphia
Speaker 2: because if you're Philadelphia and you look at it and
Speaker 2: you say, Okay, we basically never lose when Jalen Hurts plays,
Speaker 2: except for the two times we've played the Chiefs, and
Speaker 2: we're trying to get back to the super Bowl, and
Speaker 2: the overwhelming favorite to be in the super Bowl on
Speaker 2: the other side is the Chiefs. So I think from
Speaker 2: a confidence perspective, this game has a hell of a
Speaker 2: lot more meaning for Philadelphia. All right, next, all.
Speaker 3: Right, so this is the best Thursday night game that
Speaker 3: we've had all year, I assume, So the Ravens, I mean, if.
Speaker 2: You don't count the season opener, that's right. I mean,
Speaker 2: the season opener is not a season over the Chiefs Lions.
Speaker 2: But oh yeah, but that doesn't really feel like a
Speaker 2: Thursday night game because it's not a short week and
Speaker 2: all that stuff. But yes, I agree with certainly the
Speaker 2: best since then.
Speaker 3: But go ahead, So Borrow and the Bengals are facing
Speaker 3: off Lamar and the Ravens. You've always voiced the Cincinnati
Speaker 3: Bengals are the scarier team. So who would you be
Speaker 3: rooting for in this game? Would you be rooting for
Speaker 3: a Ravens win, since he win, because everybody's saying the
Speaker 3: Ravens are the scariest teams of the Chiefs right now.
Speaker 2: Well, so I I'm rooting for Cincinnati purely from a
Speaker 2: I want the Chiefs to be able to lock up
Speaker 2: the one seed as early as possible. And Cincinnati is
Speaker 2: not a real contender for the one seed. The Ravens
Speaker 2: technically are. And if the Ravens got another af SEE loss,
Speaker 2: then the Chiefs would be in just a super advantageous position.
Speaker 2: If the Ravens dropped to four losses all AFC losses,
Speaker 2: Kansas City would have a de facto tiebreaker over them.
Speaker 2: They already have the tiebreaker over Miami, they already have
Speaker 2: the tiebreaker over Jacksonville, to where you'd now be in
Speaker 2: a point where if any of those teams had the
Speaker 2: same record as Kansas City, Kansas City would get the
Speaker 2: one I don't so I get in that regard. I'm
Speaker 2: somewhat rooting for the Ravens from a kind of more
Speaker 2: pragmatic standpoint. From an emotional standpoint, I didn't. I haven't
Speaker 2: liked the arrogance that some of the Bengals players and
Speaker 2: fans have exhibited because they beat Patrick Mahomes in overtime
Speaker 2: once and the Borough Stadium stuff has really irritated me.
Speaker 2: And if you remember Orlando Brown, he goes from Kansas
Speaker 2: City to Cincinnati and then I don't know if it
Speaker 2: was Jamar Chase or t Higgins or Tyler Boyd one
Speaker 2: of the receivers like, oh, you know, there's a big
Speaker 2: rivalry and we one up them. And now all the
Speaker 2: Bengals fans are upset with the Orlando Brown because he
Speaker 2: hasn't played that well. I like Burrow and Chase a ton.
Speaker 2: I think some of the other guys chirp a little
Speaker 2: a little much for my liking, but that's fine. I also,
Speaker 2: I also think it would be really interesting if the
Speaker 2: Bengals and the Bills both missed the playoffs this year,
Speaker 2: because it will kind of crystallize how impossible what Kansas
Speaker 2: City is doing has been that these two guys that
Speaker 2: were supposed to be the rivals, they can't even make
Speaker 2: the playoffs every year, let alone make multiple Super Bowls,
Speaker 2: let alone you know, host multiple conference championship games. But
Speaker 2: who I'm rooting for is maybe not as important as this.
Speaker 2: I think the Ravens are gonna win I think the
Speaker 2: Bengals are hanged up. The Ravens are coming off a
Speaker 2: terrible loss because they gave the game away, and I
Speaker 2: think the Ravens are gonna win now them up, well,
Speaker 2: that would be the concern. That would be that the
Speaker 2: Bengals can't block the Ravens. And obviously that was the
Speaker 2: case in their first matchup. But the first matchup, Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow's injured, so we kind of throw it out right.
Speaker 2: It was week two. Burrow couldn't move around at all.
Speaker 2: Now the Ravens Marlin Humphrey is not expected to play,
Speaker 2: so covering Chase is gonna be a problem. But if
Speaker 2: you can't block him, then covering him is not as
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, not as critical of a
Speaker 2: piece of the pie. And so here's what I will say.
Speaker 2: I think if the Bengals lose this game, they're done.
Speaker 2: I ain't the If you look at Cincinnati, the only
Speaker 2: team they would have a tiebreaker over is Buffalo because
Speaker 2: they would have been swept by the Ravens. They've already
Speaker 2: lost to the Browns once, so their best case scenario
Speaker 2: within the division would be a three to three divisional
Speaker 2: record if they win all the rest of their games,
Speaker 2: all of their losses are AFC losses, and the rest
Speaker 2: of the way they don't have a single Cupcake on
Speaker 2: the schedule. After tonight, they have the Steelers, They're in Jacksonville.
Speaker 2: They're home for the Colts, which is supposed to be
Speaker 2: the easiest, but the Colts have five wins. They're home
Speaker 2: for the Vikings, which seemed like an easy one, but
Speaker 2: the Vikings do have six wins. Then they're at the Steelers,
Speaker 2: at the Chiefs, and home for the Browns. A Browns
Speaker 2: team that year after year beats them up. If they
Speaker 2: fall to five and five Demons, they need to go
Speaker 2: six and one the rest of the way. I don't
Speaker 2: think that's possible, and so I do think the Bengals
Speaker 2: season is on the line tonight. I like the Ravens.
Speaker 2: If I were gonna bet it, I'd probably bet the
Speaker 2: Bengals because three and a half is too like. I
Speaker 2: kind of on the record on this that any of
Speaker 2: these AFC North matchups where it's more than three points,
Speaker 2: unless there is something drastic that's happened with a quarterback,
Speaker 2: I just think taking the points as smart. But I
Speaker 2: think the Ravens are I'm sorry the Bengals are in
Speaker 2: real rough shape if they lose tonight, and I think
Speaker 2: they are gonna lose tonight, And I think Lamar and
Speaker 2: the Ravens have a point to make about kind of
Speaker 2: trying that last week.
Speaker 3: Was a fluke.
Speaker 2: The worry for the Ravens is while they have been
Speaker 2: just dynamic and dominant throughout, they have just found a
Speaker 2: way to give games away and having double digit leads
Speaker 2: and blowing those games, not being able to close out
Speaker 2: the culture early in the year. All of that is concerning.
Speaker 2: But I think tonight they win. All right. Next I
Speaker 2: think the Colts.
Speaker 3: Beat the Ravens last year too for some reason. Maybe
Speaker 3: I'm wrong, Go ahead. Yeah. So on Tuesday, Draymond Green
Speaker 3: was ejected after putting Gobert in a choke hold for
Speaker 3: grabbing up Klay Thompson. He's hit with a five game suspension.
Speaker 3: Uh you joked, I mean the Warriors have been a disaster.
Speaker 3: Steph has been the only one hitting shots. And you
Speaker 3: joked that they were cooked earlier. But how exactly cooked
Speaker 3: are they now that all this is unfolded. Okay?
Speaker 2: And by the way, the Colts last year beat the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: They didn't play the Ravens, but that was the Colts
Speaker 2: biggest shocking when last year was Cobbies. So I don't
Speaker 2: think that I've said that the Warriors this year are cooked.
Speaker 2: What I get I was actually impressed by how they
Speaker 2: were playing very early in the season.
Speaker 3: I have said sorry for not.
Speaker 2: As of late is that the other than Steph, nobody
Speaker 2: is really carrying their weight. And that is still the
Speaker 2: case now.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: I don't wanna make any big picture proclamations about the
Speaker 2: Warriors right now. I think that they have a trade
Speaker 2: to make. I think that they probably will make. I
Speaker 2: don't know what it is, but I don't think this
Speaker 2: is gonna be the exact team they go into the
Speaker 2: postseason with. And Steph has been so good, and aside
Speaker 2: from Denver, it doesn't really look like there is a
Speaker 2: team in the West that you can just pencil in
Speaker 2: go ahead.
Speaker 3: Is that trade you're gonna involve Draymond Green? Are you
Speaker 3: talking about like some of the rookies or something on that.
Speaker 2: No, No, no, I don't think they're gonna trade Draymond or Steph.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry Draymond, but Draymond or Clay H. They're obviously
Speaker 2: not gonna trade Steph. But I don't think it gonna
Speaker 2: trade Raymond or Clay. I think I still think it's
Speaker 2: on the board they trade Chris Paul, and then certainly
Speaker 2: on the board they trade some of the young guys,
Speaker 2: and you know, Zach Levine's available. There are different pieces
Speaker 2: that will come available throughout the year. This is what
Speaker 2: I'll say about, uh, the Draymond thing. Gobert was correct
Speaker 2: that when Steph doesn't play, he doesn't want to play.
Speaker 2: I mean, the fact of the matter is this, over
Speaker 2: the last five years, Draymond has been ejected from four
Speaker 2: of the nearly two hundred games Steph has played. That's
Speaker 2: two percent, and seven of the seventy four games Steph
Speaker 2: hasn't that's ten percent. So in the last thing about
Speaker 2: it like this, in the last five years, Draymond has
Speaker 2: been ejected eleven times. Seven of those games were games
Speaker 2: Steph didn't play. That part's true. What's also true is this,
Speaker 2: Draymond has just in the last three games been thrown
Speaker 2: out of one game, then chirped at Anthony Edwards and
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards lit the Warriors on fire, and then got
Speaker 2: thrown out of another game for attacking Rudy Gobert go
Speaker 2: ahead to mase.
Speaker 3: Get him off, Like the juice is not worth the
Speaker 3: squeeze with this guy. Like before you could say that
Speaker 3: he was the glue or he was the galvanizer of
Speaker 3: the team. But dude, you're overstaying you're welcome at this point,
Speaker 3: you're overdoing it. Like you did what you did before,
Speaker 3: but now you're just becoming a problem. Like and the
Speaker 3: other thing is like he said that the ruby Gobert
Speaker 3: had his hand around Clay, but like, dude, he said
Speaker 3: he had his hand, he had his arm around my guy.
Speaker 3: Draymond had him hemmed up for like fifteen extra seconds
Speaker 3: after that.
Speaker 2: Well that's that, and that listen exactly. There is no
Speaker 2: defending Draymond on this. His own coach, Steve Kerr, was
Speaker 2: pleading with him to let him go.
Speaker 3: He didn't.
Speaker 2: I mean, he targeted Gobert because they have a long
Speaker 2: standing beef that you know that he is he they've
Speaker 2: never liked each other. He's clearly been waiting to do that.
Speaker 2: But just in the last two dozen games he's played,
Speaker 2: he stopped on Sabonis's chest he remember in the playoffs
Speaker 2: and got suspended. And if you just think over the
Speaker 2: last thirteen months, of Basketball for punching Jordan Poole in
Speaker 2: the face, for stomping on Sabonis's chest, and for putting
Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert in a ten second choke hold. He got
Speaker 2: suspended for a grand total of six games.
Speaker 3: Like this idea that this is.
Speaker 2: Too harsh or anything like that is just an absurdity.
Speaker 2: It's just totally the And the point that I want
Speaker 2: to make is as Draymond declines as an athlete and
Speaker 2: is less and less effective, there's gonna be more and
Speaker 2: more of this there just is like and so I
Speaker 2: your point is the juice is not worth the squeeze.
Speaker 2: I and I do feel like retroactively, people are forgiving
Speaker 2: Draymond more and more for punching Jordan Poole because they're
Speaker 2: seeing how Jordan Poole is acting with the Wizards, and
Speaker 2: I understand that to a degree, but it's all What's
Speaker 2: also true is that that wreck to their team, that
Speaker 2: ruin they were the offending.
Speaker 3: Bad time of the season to do that type of stuff.
Speaker 2: I mean, no, they were the defending champs and it
Speaker 2: ruins in their season before it got off the ground.
Speaker 2: And so I just he is going to become more
Speaker 2: and more volatile as as he continues to decline as
Speaker 2: a player. Go ahead and ask them, do.
Speaker 3: You think there's a chance that they did this? Do
Speaker 3: you think there's a chance that he did this on
Speaker 3: purpose because of the new resting policy and wanted to
Speaker 3: just get kicked out.
Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't think that at all. I
Speaker 2: do think it was especially because he's now suspended for
Speaker 2: five games. Now. I do think that Clay also is frustrated.
Speaker 2: I mean, Clay started this with Jaden McDaniels, who hadn't
Speaker 2: done anything, and so I think right now the Warriors
Speaker 2: are a team that has one all time legendary player
Speaker 2: that is still playing at a super high level and
Speaker 2: two other Hall of famers that are nowhere near that
Speaker 2: level anymore, and they're st uggling with it. I think
Speaker 2: for Steph, I'm sorry for Clay and for Draymond. It
Speaker 2: is not only is it tough not being close to
Speaker 2: the player you once were, but it might be even
Speaker 2: tougher because Steph still is because the guy who's always
Speaker 2: been the guy is still and by the way, he's
Speaker 2: the oldest of the three and he's still at this
Speaker 2: insane level. And for Clay and Draymond. They're not all right,
Speaker 2: let's move on.
Speaker 3: But uh, okay, all right, So yesterday Cleveland announced that
Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson is going to undergo season ending shoulder surgery.
Speaker 3: The Browns are still in it, though. There's six and
Speaker 3: three with even with Watson playing poorly, how far do
Speaker 3: you think your MVP Miles Garrett can take the defense
Speaker 3: and the Browns without Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 2: So I was shocked yesterday of how many people were
Speaker 2: arguing that the Browns are now cooked because of the injury. Now,
Speaker 2: I mean, they obviously can't make the super Bowl, but
Speaker 2: I didn't think they could make the super Bowl before.
Speaker 2: I still think they're gonna make the playoffs. I mean,
Speaker 2: they've already banked six wins they still have. I mean,
Speaker 2: here's their remaining schedule this week home for the Steelers.
Speaker 2: Tough one, but about a coin flip game at the Broncos.
Speaker 2: Maybe tougher than we thought a month ago, but absolutely winnable.
Speaker 2: At the Rams. The Rams cannot block the Browns. I
Speaker 2: think that is a Browns win. Home for the Jags,
Speaker 2: they're gonna lose that home for the Bears. That's a
Speaker 2: win at the Texans tough one home for the Jets,
Speaker 2: that's a win, and then at the Bengals the final
Speaker 2: week of the year. I still think the Browns make
Speaker 2: the playoffs. And here's the other piece of it. I
Speaker 2: know that Deshaun's final half pre injury, he played really well.
Speaker 2: He was fourteen to fourteen and played well. Over the
Speaker 2: totality of the season. The Browns are dead last in
Speaker 2: the NFL in passer rating. They're six and three despite DeShawn, PJ.
Speaker 2: Walker and Dorian Thompson Robinson combining for a sixty seven
Speaker 2: passer rating, eight touchdowns and twelve picks and one hundred
Speaker 2: and eighty passing yards per game. Dead last. They have
Speaker 2: gotten worse quarterback play than the Jets, than the Patriots,
Speaker 2: than any team. DeShawn this year was averaging one hundred
Speaker 2: and eighty five yards passing per game, had an eighty
Speaker 2: four ratings, seven touchdowns, four picks. In this last game,
Speaker 2: he was as bad as he's ever been in the
Speaker 2: first half and then was excellent in the second half.
Speaker 2: There's no denying it. So I think they're gonna be
Speaker 2: okay now. I also think that long term it's a disaster,
Speaker 2: and their decision to trade Josh Dobbs before the year
Speaker 2: and a seventh round pick for a fifth round pick
Speaker 2: goes down as one of the worst misevaluations of a
Speaker 2: guy you have in the building that we've seen recently.
Speaker 2: If they had Josh Dobbs, they'd be fine. But I
Speaker 2: still think this is a playoff team. You got some
Speaker 2: follow ups there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So this Watson injury isn't just about the injury.
Speaker 3: So he obviously has the season ending ending injuries and
Speaker 3: isn't going to be available, but he obviously just got
Speaker 3: that huge contract. What do you think this means for
Speaker 3: player in their contracts and player empowerment for the future.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, I mean, I think it was pretty clear
Speaker 2: when Joe Burrow and Lamar and Jalen couldn't get fully
Speaker 2: guaranteed deals that this was a one off. And it's
Speaker 2: even more validated that it's a one off by the
Speaker 2: fact that the Browns so deeply regreted. What is noteworthy
Speaker 2: about it? And I want to listen, there are very
Speaker 2: few things on the Internet that people say to me
Speaker 2: that that irritate me. Oddly, one of the things that
Speaker 2: really irritates me is when folks try to well actually
Speaker 2: me on understanding the salary cap in the NFL, guys,
Speaker 2: I almost can guarantee you, unless you are tweeting from
Speaker 2: an NFL front office, I understand it better than you do.
Speaker 2: And maybe maybe I understand it, maybe you understand it
Speaker 2: as much as I do. But I made the point
Speaker 2: on television yesterday that the bones of the Deshaun Watson contract,
Speaker 2: it was a five year, two hundred and thirty million dollar,
Speaker 2: fully guaranteed deal. So if they had simply spread it
Speaker 2: out all evenly, then it would be a forty six
Speaker 2: million dollars per year cap it. Okay, that's that's what
Speaker 2: it would be. They decided in year one that you know,
Speaker 2: what we're gonna do is, because he has a pending suspension,
Speaker 2: we're gonna pay him basically the league minimum in year one.
Speaker 2: So the game checks that he loses it, doesn't you know,
Speaker 2: he loses as little money as possible. And Browns fans
Speaker 2: came to me and said, that's what every team with
Speaker 2: every contract does. No, they don't. Now, they very often
Speaker 2: in year one have the base salary low because the
Speaker 2: players getting the giant signing bonus checks so they don't matter.
Speaker 2: And then they can spread that out over the course
Speaker 2: of the deal, but making it literally the league minimum
Speaker 2: was a unique move that at the time everyone understood
Speaker 2: was in part to protect him from losing money in
Speaker 2: the suspension. You can call it unethical, you can call
Speaker 2: it immral, you can call it whatever you want. That's
Speaker 2: what they did. But that meant the five year two
Speaker 2: from a cap perspective, essentially turned into a four year
Speaker 2: to twenty. So now that's fifty five million per year
Speaker 2: against their cap. Okay, But then this off season they
Speaker 2: restructured it to give them more cap flexibility this year,
Speaker 2: so his cap hit this season was only twenty million dollars.
Speaker 2: And I understand folks love to add they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: the salary cap is fake. People that don't understand actually
Speaker 2: how the salary cap works. That's what they say. They're like, oh,
Speaker 2: the cap is fake. You can always move money around.
Speaker 2: And as I've said before and I will say again,
Speaker 2: you can, but those bills come due. So I will
Speaker 2: try to explain this as simply as possible for the
Speaker 2: fake gms out there that for some reason think they
Speaker 2: have a better understanding of this stuff than I do. Again,
Speaker 2: I'm there are a lot of people that talk about
Speaker 2: stuff that actually know what they're talking about, and they
Speaker 2: are maybe less abrasive than I am some of my
Speaker 2: contemporaries in the media. Maybe they have the and more
Speaker 2: power to them, but I cannot stand. I just can't stand.
Speaker 2: Folks that I wouldn't trust to balance a checkbook tell
Speaker 2: me that this is actually how the cap works. It's
Speaker 2: not complicated, guys. They have guaranteed Deshaun Watson two hundred
Speaker 2: and thirty million dollars at some point. That means two
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty million dollars of cap charges are going
Speaker 2: to be applied to the Cleveland Browns. So when two
Speaker 2: years into the deal, last year and this year the
Speaker 2: total cap charges to the Browns have been right at
Speaker 2: thirty million, that means over the next three years of
Speaker 2: the deal, and then you can add some dummy years,
Speaker 2: two hundred million million dollars must be up against the cap.
Speaker 2: So what does that mean? That means very simply to
Speaker 2: Shaun Watson for the Browns, next year has a cap
Speaker 2: charge of sixty four million dollars, The following year has
Speaker 2: a cap charge of sixty four million dollars. The following
Speaker 2: year has a cap charge of sixty four million dollars. Now,
Speaker 2: if you actually can do math, you might say, wait,
Speaker 2: sixty four plus sixty four plus sixty four, that's only
Speaker 2: one ninety two. You said it was two hundred. Yes,
Speaker 2: and then a year after the contract's over, he has
Speaker 2: a void year where he's not on the team or
Speaker 2: they've given him a contract extension that has a cap
Speaker 2: charge of eight million dollars. The point that I am
Speaker 2: making is this, the Cleveland Browns kept borrowing from future
Speaker 2: Cleveland brown years to accommodate the Deshaun Watson contract. They,
Speaker 2: as it turns out, correctly believed this year, we have
Speaker 2: a super Bowl caliber defense. Let's go try to win
Speaker 2: it right now. Unfortunately for them, DeShawn was bad and
Speaker 2: now he's hurt. What that means in practical purposes is this,
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson, not via cash via cap, is still owed
Speaker 2: two hundred million dollars and only has three years left
Speaker 2: on his deal. That's why each of the next three
Speaker 2: years Deshaun Watson will have the highest cap charge in
Speaker 2: NFL history. And if Browns fans want to come to
Speaker 2: me and say, well, Nick, what they'll do is they'll
Speaker 2: restructure it again. Okay, maybe they will but that bill
Speaker 2: is coming due and your runway to pay that bill
Speaker 2: is shortening. And so the too long didn't listen version
Speaker 2: is this was their opportunity and that bill is now
Speaker 2: coming doing spades. And I think the best Browns defense
Speaker 2: were going to have seen this year's and unfortunately for them,
Speaker 2: they had an ineffective quarterback and now an injured quarterback,
Speaker 2: and I think they are about.
Speaker 3: To be a cycling any in that contract.
Speaker 2: So Barnwell, So here's the Barnwell asked that question, which
Speaker 2: was if you basically offered him up for a seventh
Speaker 2: round pick, would someone take it on. So here is
Speaker 2: what I think folks need to understand. He might be
Speaker 2: tradeable because when you trade for a player, all you're
Speaker 2: trading for is their the base salary. So if a
Speaker 2: team wanted him, they would owe him only forty six
Speaker 2: time three what's that one thirty eight? They would owe
Speaker 2: him one hundred and thirty eight million, fully guaranteed for
Speaker 2: the next three years. Now, the Browns would still owe
Speaker 2: a sixty two million dollars dead cap hit, either all
Speaker 2: next year or spread over the next two years because
Speaker 2: of his signing bonus and his restructuring accelerating onto the cap.
Speaker 2: I do think a team might take a flyer on
Speaker 2: him if they wanted to cut the court. I do
Speaker 2: because forty six million a year for three years is
Speaker 2: not as onerous as what the Browns are looking at.
Speaker 2: But I don't think they're They're gonna admit defeat, and
Speaker 2: I don't think that's what they're gonna do. I will
Speaker 2: tell you this much though, this Browns team with Baker
Speaker 2: Mayfield right now would be a legitimate AFC. Conmit, it
Speaker 2: absolutely would be. All right, last thing.
Speaker 3: All right. Dan Rolovski went on Pat McAfee's show earlier
Speaker 3: this week and said that he's heard that Bill Belichick
Speaker 3: is leaving. Bill Belichick is leaving next year and already
Speaker 3: knows where he's going. Oh, with Belichick leaving New England
Speaker 3: as a loser, proved that Tom Brady was the one,
Speaker 3: you know, providing for his legacy this whole time.
Speaker 2: No, I mean no, I'm not gonna let people do
Speaker 2: the revision. It's history on this. Like the first three
Speaker 2: Super Bowls the Patriots won, they were a far better
Speaker 2: defense than offense. The last super Bowl the Patriots won,
Speaker 2: they held the Rams, who were the second highest scoring
Speaker 2: team in the league that year to three points. This
Speaker 2: was obviously a great part. Now Belichick has lost his fastball,
Speaker 2: his drafts have been bad as of late.
Speaker 3: People, but the idea.
Speaker 2: That the well, I'm maybe people don't like him. That's fine,
Speaker 2: He's probably earned that. But the but the fact of
Speaker 2: the matter is he's the greatest coach of all time,
Speaker 2: was the architect of the greatest dynasty of all time.
Speaker 2: Now I do think he's not going to be on
Speaker 2: the Patriots next year. I do think that part's correct.
Speaker 2: But the follow up here is, so go ahead and
Speaker 2: ask that.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so you're obviously in the business and you
Speaker 3: hear things as well for fans, explain what it means
Speaker 3: to quote unquote hear things.
Speaker 2: Okay, so that you listen, that usually.
Speaker 3: Means also let me ask it, and how do you
Speaker 3: determine what you can and cannot say on air?
Speaker 2: Well, that's all right, So these are complicated questions. The
Speaker 2: hearing things usually means one or two people that I
Speaker 2: kind of believe know, but I'm not dead certain I
Speaker 2: have said it, so I will I will repeat it
Speaker 2: with the couching of I'm not actually reporting this, like
Speaker 2: that's just you know, it's out there in the ether.
Speaker 2: My only concern when things are the hearing things stuff
Speaker 2: is how much of it is uh snake eating its tail.
Speaker 2: So I said on the air three weeks ago that
Speaker 2: I think what's gonna happen is that the Los Angeles
Speaker 2: Chargers are gonna trade a second round pick for Bill Belichick.
Speaker 2: I had not I have no sourcing on that. I was.
Speaker 2: The sourcing was my brain. I was like, the Chargers
Speaker 2: are probably gonna fire Brandon Staley, but they probably, like
Speaker 2: Kellen Moore, want to keep him. They want someone to
Speaker 2: come in. Belichick will want to go to a team
Speaker 2: with a quarterback to try to get Shula's record. Like
Speaker 2: this seems to make sense. That was I was not
Speaker 2: reporting that at all, and I didn't pretend I was.
Speaker 2: I just said of the teams that might trade for him,
Speaker 2: that Belichick would want to go to you know what,
Speaker 2: you know, what's the Venn diagram? I said the Chargers.
Speaker 2: Over the last couple weeks since I said that, more
Speaker 2: and more people are saying that, which and then you
Speaker 2: you have Orlovsky saying on McAfee, you know he's hearing.
Speaker 2: So I always wonder on the hearing things stuff. If
Speaker 2: what sometimes happens is and I'm not saying that's what's
Speaker 2: happening here, what does that mean.
Speaker 3: I was the first one to do is I did that?
Speaker 3: You know? That's I started saying.
Speaker 2: No, that's that's not what I'm saying. If you if
Speaker 2: you're gonna make a joke, have it ab one the
Speaker 2: audience understands, and b B one that actually makes sense.
Speaker 2: Uh I. So the reason I brought that up is
Speaker 2: I wonder at times if what happens is someone throws
Speaker 2: something out there that is just their opinion that gets
Speaker 2: interpreted as a half a report, and then an actual
Speaker 2: someone that might have inside information in the background repeats
Speaker 2: it like oh, well, you know this is out there,
Speaker 2: But then when they say it, it actually becomes a
Speaker 2: little newsy, and then all of a sudden people are
Speaker 2: hearing it. Does that make like the if I were
Speaker 2: to I'll use a different, just kind of fake example.
Speaker 2: If I were to say to so I'm pals with
Speaker 2: Adam Lefko, right, who's on inside the NBA. NBA guy.
Speaker 2: If he and I are talking basketball and he's a
Speaker 2: Big Sixers fan and he says to me, just just chatting,
Speaker 2: He's like yeah, you know, I think the Sixers should
Speaker 2: go after and this is I'm making this up entirely.
Speaker 2: I think the Sixers should go after Zach Levine, right,
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, that's interesting, it'd be an interesting fit.
Speaker 2: They have the pieces whatever. And then on TV I
Speaker 2: go out and I'm like, you know, one of the
Speaker 2: places to watch Zach Lavine at is Philly. I was
Speaker 2: talking to, you know, an NBA person recently. They really
Speaker 2: liked the fit, right, So I didn't say that everybody.
Speaker 2: I shouldn't say everybody. A lot of people know that
Speaker 2: I have a relationship with the guy who runs the Sixers,
Speaker 2: Daryl Morey. They could hear me say that. Assume that
Speaker 2: when I said, you know, I got you know, I
Speaker 2: was talking to NBA person. They like the fit, That's
Speaker 2: who I'm talking about. And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: there it's like, hey, hearing Zach Levine connected to the Sixers,
Speaker 2: when in reality it would have just been because a
Speaker 2: Sixers fan who's a buddy of mine said he liked
Speaker 2: the fit and he's so that. So the that is
Speaker 2: the difference between you know, I'm hearing such and such,
Speaker 2: and you got to know who's saying it. If Jay Glazer,
Speaker 2: who doesn't report many things but as a near perfect
Speaker 2: hit rate, says he's hearing things, it probably means he's
Speaker 2: hearing it from an actual decision maker. If I say it,
Speaker 2: it could Demonse could have mentioned it. Who knows, Like, well,
Speaker 2: that did happen. That did happen in a very roundabout way.
Speaker 2: I was on TV and we were talking. We were
Speaker 2: playing the Jordan Poole Highlight, and I just said in passing,
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, and I can't believe some people
Speaker 2: thought this guy could average thirty a game. And while
Speaker 2: it's like nobody thought he could average thirty a game.
Speaker 2: And I said, no, some of our colleagues did. I
Speaker 2: can't even remember who, but I heard it, and then
Speaker 2: I realized that who was Demanse?
Speaker 3: Wait, so yeah, either way. She said earlier that you
Speaker 3: didn't get my joke. I got the joke, you just
Speaker 3: didn't get it. It's cool, it's fine.
Speaker 2: Well, you you got the joke. You told the joke.
Speaker 3: Wait, but the fans also got the joke. It wasn't
Speaker 3: just me.
Speaker 2: Oh the chattel.
Speaker 3: There's like eight folks in the chat saying that they
Speaker 3: got the joke. Soldier boy said that he was the
Speaker 3: first rapper to do this, that and the third, and
Speaker 3: he's like, not the first, and that's just his bit,
Speaker 3: and you like had like a start to a soldier boy.
Speaker 2: But I wasn't saying, Okay, you weren't.
Speaker 3: Saying you were the first one to do something. You
Speaker 3: were saying you were the first one to say something.
Speaker 2: And then they But so the I what I do
Speaker 2: think the Belichick Chargers thing was not a thing people
Speaker 2: were talking about three weeks ago when I kind of
Speaker 2: threw out as a possibility. On first things first, I
Speaker 2: am not claiming that that is why people are now
Speaker 2: talking about it, though I do think that a month
Speaker 2: ago it wasn't really out there in the ether. And
Speaker 2: I just kind of put put it together because there
Speaker 2: are not a lot of places that I think are
Speaker 2: going to fire their coach that also Belichick would want
Speaker 2: to go to that have a quarterback. But the Chargers do,
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Speaker 2: off our best week of the year three one and one. Listen,
Speaker 2: we have not been dynamite this year, but as I said,
Speaker 2: hovering right around five hundred and Luki there fifty games
Speaker 2: in twenty four to twenty five and one. Now that's
Speaker 2: still minus three point five units, but only a game
Speaker 2: below five hundred, and this was right around where we
Speaker 2: were last year when we got red hot. So the
Speaker 2: picks last week. Jacksonville plus three was obviously a disaster.
Speaker 2: They got annihilated. But the other ones Cleveland plus six,
Speaker 2: they went outright, Houston plus seven, they went out right,
Speaker 2: Detroit minus three. That's a push against the Chargers, so
Speaker 2: be it. And Dallas minus sixteen and a half against
Speaker 2: the Giants went exactly how I told you it was
Speaker 2: going to go. Now, once again, I got a little
Speaker 2: unlucky in that. For I did that my three picks
Speaker 2: on TV, which I pick from here, and I had
Speaker 2: five picks to choose from, I included the one loss.
Speaker 2: So that's unfortunate. So instead of going three and oh
Speaker 2: or two oho and one on television, I went just
Speaker 2: two and one. But we're twenty four to twenty five
Speaker 2: and one on the year. Demondse what's my first pick
Speaker 2: of the week.
Speaker 3: Your first pick of the week is Pittsburgh plus one
Speaker 3: at Cleveland. Now you can get it out plus one
Speaker 3: and a half. Okay, So Pittsburgh plus.
Speaker 2: One and a half. Uh So the Cleveland is starting
Speaker 2: Dorian Thompson Robinson, a fifth round rookie who I be. Listen,
Speaker 2: he only started one game this year, and that was
Speaker 2: the game Deshaun Watson pulled himself out of a couple
Speaker 2: hours for kickoff. He was terrible, but I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: hold that against him. He didn't get the full week
Speaker 2: of practice and he didn't know he was gonna start.
Speaker 2: I thought Dorian Thompson Robinson was excellent in the preseason,
Speaker 2: and I think he'll be okay. I just don't know
Speaker 2: if he'll be okay this week. I also maybe I'm
Speaker 2: the only one I respect what the Steelers have done.
Speaker 2: I know that they probably from a metrics and a
Speaker 2: stats standpoint, they shouldn't be six and three, but they are.
Speaker 2: I picked them before the year to win that division.
Speaker 2: I still think they're live to do that. I think
Speaker 2: that the offense has, I don't want to say gotten better,
Speaker 2: but shown a few signs of life over the last
Speaker 2: couple of weeks since Matt Canada moved down from the
Speaker 2: booth to the sideline. And right now, I told you
Speaker 2: AFC North teams getting points. I said it more than
Speaker 2: three and a half is an almost must bet. I'm
Speaker 2: not betting the Thursday night game tonight, but I know
Speaker 2: this is only one and a half. I just like
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh in this spot. AFC North Division games underdogs are
Speaker 2: sixty nine, forty six and three against the spread in
Speaker 2: the last decade and tomlin is a doll has been
Speaker 2: one of the most profitable plays in the NFL over
Speaker 2: the last five years. So I like Pittsburgh. I think
Speaker 2: they're gonna win out right, go ahead, Demansey.
Speaker 3: Speaking of years, this is going to be the second
Speaker 3: lowest NFL over under in the last ten years, so
Speaker 3: a lot of defense being played on a scoring.
Speaker 2: Really hold on what's the total in the total in
Speaker 2: this game's thirty three?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that that kind of sounds about right. Uh.
Speaker 3: I mean that's considering what both.
Speaker 2: Cos that's not the a thirty three point NFL over
Speaker 2: not under is. And I'm looking right now at see
Speaker 2: thirty two and a half in some spots, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Thirty two and a half for Saints Brown's last year,
Speaker 2: and uh, in thirty three or thirty two and a
Speaker 2: half this week, that's wild. I didn't realize that that is,
Speaker 2: but that and again you're not getting a lot of points,
Speaker 2: but give me a point and a half if they
Speaker 2: lose seventeen sixteen. I guess what Vegas and that by
Speaker 2: the way, if it's a thirty three point total and
Speaker 2: it's point point and a half spread, that's what Vegas
Speaker 2: is saying. This is a seventeen to sixteen Cleveland win,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 3: Next next you've got Jacksonville minus six and a half
Speaker 3: versus Tennessee.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jags at home bounce back spot after getting blown
Speaker 2: out by the Demons. Doesn't like it. He's making a
Speaker 2: very unattractive face about it. I don't think you want
Speaker 2: that on for the YouTube audience. Pout and the one
Speaker 2: of the mistakes some gamblers make is in a positive
Speaker 2: or negative direction overreacting to what we saw last one
Speaker 2: week ago. I understand the Jags couldn't block the Niners.
Speaker 2: The Niners looked like a machine and the Jags looked terrible.
Speaker 2: The Jags that here's a good stat from our producers.
Speaker 2: Teams good teams teams above five hundred who scored less
Speaker 2: than fourteen points in the previous week over the last
Speaker 2: decade are one oh one and seventy seven against the
Speaker 2: spread in the last in the last decade. Why because
Speaker 2: people overreact to them. This should Jacksonville at home against Tennessee.
Speaker 2: Should be laying more than a touchdown. They're laying six
Speaker 2: and a half. I understand Vrabel getting points. Typically he's
Speaker 2: not quite Tomlin, but he's in that realm. I just
Speaker 2: don't like this Tennessee team at all. Jacksonville needs this game,
Speaker 2: especially with Houston coming on hot for the division, and
Speaker 2: that's a losable game next week against Houston. The Jags
Speaker 2: are not losing three straight. They are a good team.
Speaker 2: Their losses this year have come to the Chiefs, the
Speaker 2: Texans and the Niners, two excellent teams.
Speaker 3: Question, I gonna win by seven?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think they will. I think they actually
Speaker 2: win by double digits. I like the Jags minus six
Speaker 2: and a half.
Speaker 3: Next Seahawks minus one at the Rams.
Speaker 2: All right, all of the trends on this are.
Speaker 3: For me.
Speaker 2: McVeigh owns Pete Carroll, which I understand has been a problem.
Speaker 2: Gino is a favorite. Is not good. This is a
Speaker 2: very straightforward one. I think the Rams right now are
Speaker 2: actually slightly overvalued. They're obviously, and we talk about this
Speaker 2: every week. They obviously are not gonna have home field
Speaker 2: advantage in any of these games, and the Rams coming
Speaker 2: into the year, people thought this could be one of
Speaker 2: the worst teams in football. They threw everyone off the
Speaker 2: scent because in Week one against Seattle they blew them
Speaker 2: out and people are like, oh, maybe the Rams are
Speaker 2: gonna be legit. They're not. Since then, their wins have
Speaker 2: come in overtime against the Colts and against the Cardinals,
Speaker 2: who were at the time maybe the worst team in football.
Speaker 2: I think the Rams have a brutal offensive line. I
Speaker 2: think Seattle is a good team that has real trouble
Speaker 2: with the best teams in the league. They lost to
Speaker 2: the Bengals, they got blown out by the Ravens. I
Speaker 2: don't think they're gonna have trouble with the Rams here.
Speaker 2: I don't mind laying the points, especially because I think
Speaker 2: it'll probably be at least fifty to fifty Seahawks fans there,
Speaker 2: and I think the Rams are in a rough spot
Speaker 2: moving forward the rest of the year. When you look
Speaker 2: at what the Rams have on their schedule after the
Speaker 2: Cardinals game, it's hard to fight. They have the Cardinals
Speaker 2: and the Giants. Aside from that, I don't know if
Speaker 2: they have another win on their schedule. I like Seattle,
Speaker 2: but I shouldn't say bounce back spot because they won
Speaker 2: last week into the Commanders. But I like Seattle. I'm
Speaker 2: only laying a point. I'll take Seattle minus one.
Speaker 3: You've got my blessing on that one.
Speaker 2: You like that one? Okay, good, I'm glad to hear it.
Speaker 3: Next Minnesota plus two and a half at Denver.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think people are right now overvaluing Denver and
Speaker 2: undervaluing Minnesota. Minnesota's coached very well by Kevin O'Connell, Josh
Speaker 2: Dobbs has played well, and Denver Man Buffalo did everything
Speaker 2: they could to lose that game, and Denver still almost
Speaker 2: gave it to him. Denver still tried to give it
Speaker 2: right back to him. I think the it's very interesting
Speaker 2: watching Sean Payton call plays for this Denver team because
Speaker 2: even though Russ has some of his numbers are shockingly good,
Speaker 2: Sean Payton clearly doesn't trust him and is trying to
Speaker 2: coach around the quarterback and the play calling. I don't
Speaker 2: think that will work against Minnesota. I think Minnesota is
Speaker 2: gonna be able to take care of the football. Minnesota
Speaker 2: is in a spot where they are you know, they
Speaker 2: can't obviously lock up a playoff spot, but because it
Speaker 2: is so hard to find a third wild card team
Speaker 2: in the NFC other than Minnesota. They're in a really
Speaker 2: strong position. They also maybe are tricking themselves in the
Speaker 2: thinking they could run down Detroit in the division. Minnesota
Speaker 2: is gonna win this game, outright. I like Minnesota. I'm
Speaker 2: really surprised by this line. I guess it's Josh Dobbs
Speaker 2: on the roads against a defense that's played well the
Speaker 2: last month, and credit at defense. It has played well.
Speaker 2: It's played really well since giving up those seventy points.
Speaker 2: Played well against the Chiefs twice, played well against Josh Allen.
Speaker 2: I just think Minnesota is a better team than the
Speaker 2: Denver Broncos, and I anger right now. Denver on a
Speaker 2: short week after an emotional win, is primed for a
Speaker 2: bit of a letdown spot after a couple emotional wins,
Speaker 2: I should say, beating the Chiefs and beating the Bills.
Speaker 2: I like Minnesota plus the two and a half, all right, last.
Speaker 3: One, I think that's gonna be a good game. Last one.
Speaker 3: You got Kansas City minus two and a half at
Speaker 3: Philly or verse Philly? Sorry at home? Yeah?
Speaker 2: At home? Yeah. I don't care about the Mahomes against
Speaker 2: the spread numbers because He's almost always such a huge favorite.
Speaker 2: It's so rare to be able to get the Chiefs
Speaker 2: laying less than a field goal. When you have that opportunity,
Speaker 2: I think it's almost a must bet. If you remember,
Speaker 2: they were underdogs in the AFC Championship Game against Cincinnati
Speaker 2: despite it being at Arrowhead because of mahomes injury. They
Speaker 2: were underdogs in the Super Bowl. I think the Chiefs
Speaker 2: Andy Reid off a bye is about as good as
Speaker 2: it gets in this league.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I understand the Eagles are also off a bye, but
Speaker 2: mahomes Is unwavering confidence that the offense is going to
Speaker 2: get it going is incredibly encouraging.
Speaker 3: Say it again, Oh you need.
Speaker 2: Yeah? Just I mean, I think the Chiefs defense is
Speaker 2: excellent and Mahomes absolutely It does not seem like false
Speaker 2: bravado that the Chiefs are going to get it going
Speaker 2: on the same.
Speaker 3: We don't have it figured out like that's obviously. I
Speaker 3: feel like that's the stands he's gonna no.
Speaker 2: But I just I just believe I I those are
Speaker 2: You're right. He wouldn't say it, He wouldn't say the
Speaker 2: other that he didn't have confidence, But I believe him
Speaker 2: and the way he has said it, and the way
Speaker 2: he has conducted him the way he conducted himself after
Speaker 2: the Dolphins win when the offense didn't play well and
Speaker 2: the Chiefs won, he seemed more confident than had they
Speaker 2: won thirty five thirty two because I think he believes
Speaker 2: correctly the offense will get it figured out and that
Speaker 2: Chiefs defense just dominated what had been the highest scoring
Speaker 2: offense in the league. And so the Chiefs are at
Speaker 2: home laying less than a field goal off a bye
Speaker 2: against an Eagles team that while their record is excellent
Speaker 2: and I have massive respect for the Eagles the Eagles,
Speaker 2: it's not like they have looked like a flawless team
Speaker 2: up to this point in the season. This is to
Speaker 2: me a great spot for the Chiefs to remind everyone
Speaker 2: they're still the best team in the NFL. Hands down,
Speaker 2: all lay the two and a half with Kansas City.
Speaker 2: So the picks for the week Pittsburgh plus one and
Speaker 2: a half at Cleveland, Jacksonville minus six and a half
Speaker 2: against Tennessee Seattle minus one in Arizona, Minnesota minus or
Speaker 2: plus two and a half at Denver, and the Chiefs
Speaker 2: minus two and a half against Philly. All Right, Demons
Speaker 2: what's your teaser this week? Pal? Last week we know
Speaker 2: another two and one teaser. The jag screwed you. Sorry
Speaker 2: about that, Pal. What's the teaser this week?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we lost last week's obviously. This week is
Speaker 3: a three teams seven and a half point teaser. We're
Speaker 3: teasing the Cowboys from minus ten and a half to
Speaker 3: minus three Panthers at Carolina.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 3: We're teasing the Steelers from plus one and a half
Speaker 3: to plus nine versus the love It the Browns. And
Speaker 3: then we're teasing the Detroit Lions from minus seven and
Speaker 3: a half to just pick them versus the Bears, and
Speaker 3: the Lion's I'm gonna lose that.
Speaker 2: Game, demonsay, this is an A plus teaser. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: show my confidence in you by betting a full unit
Speaker 2: of my own on it. You're gonna win this week?
Speaker 3: This week, I appreciate. I'm surprised you're not saying anything
Speaker 3: about the Detroit leg.
Speaker 2: No, you got it through all the key numbers. It's fine. Hey,
Speaker 2: the that now, I the the only argument would be,
Speaker 2: would you want to do a seven point teaser to
Speaker 2: get a little more value on your money? So get
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh plus eight and a half and Detroit from a
Speaker 2: pick them to plus half points the same thing. The
Speaker 2: problem there is then you don't get Dallas to the
Speaker 2: three at least now. Somehow Dallas only wins by three.
Speaker 2: So I think it's the right numbers. I think it's
Speaker 2: an a triple plus. I think it's gonna win. Take
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Speaker 3: Nick, right, what would happen in this game to make
Speaker 3: you lose confidence in the Chiefs short of injury to
Speaker 3: star players?
Speaker 2: Nothing, I look nothing, the.
Speaker 3: Maybe Mahomes on three picks against that bad secondary.
Speaker 2: No, folks, folks want me. Here's the thing. It'd be
Speaker 2: one thing if my Chiefs, if my level of confidence
Speaker 2: for the Chiefs was irrational, But people, and if you
Speaker 2: wanted to call it irrational going into last season, when
Speaker 2: Mahomes had just played that terrible second half against the
Speaker 2: Bengals and the Chiefs traded Tyreek Hill, so be it.
Speaker 3: You could have.
Speaker 2: But when they're coming off winning a super Bowl, when
Speaker 2: Mahomes was playing on one leg, and when you're seeing
Speaker 2: the rest of the alleged contenders in the AFC. Self immolate.
Speaker 2: I don't know why you would believe that I would
Speaker 2: have anything other than full complete confidence that this is
Speaker 2: the best team in football. All right, great job everybody.
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