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Delivery and other fees may apply. 27 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: Copyright twenty twenty three McDonald's. All right, welcome in big 28 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: show for us today. It's our gambling show as promised. 29 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: Just like last year, right around week ten, right around Thanksgiving, 30 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: I have turned my season around. I believe I am 31 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: right at five hundred. I might be one game below 32 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: five hundred, but regardless, we feel great about where I am. 33 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: I am also disappointed in Demonse's teasers, but not for 34 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: the reason that people think. I'm not disappointed that Demonse 35 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 2: has gotten eight teasers in a row. Wrong. That's not 36 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 2: what's disappointing. What's disappointing Demonse is that week two you 37 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: got it right, because had you like being one and 38 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 2: nine just sucks being zero to ten, we could have 39 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 2: turned it into a bit. We might have gotten some 40 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 2: like a little internet traction like this sports betting expert 41 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 2: can't hit a teaser save his life. The win in 42 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: week two is what is right now the fly in 43 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: the ointment. But I haven't looked at it yet. I mean, 44 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 2: well at this point, yeah, but it's just not as fun. 45 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: The fact that you have that one win mixed in 46 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: and the win came early enough. 47 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: Oh wait, was the last win made it to where no, 48 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 3: you could. 49 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: Still be five hundred. I mean, there's eighteen week regular season, 50 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: so all you got to do is go from losing 51 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: eight in a row to winning eight in a row 52 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: and you'll be right there. And by the way, I 53 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 2: haven't looked at the teaser yet this week, but producer 54 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: Danegel said he loves it, and so we'll see. All right, 55 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 2: So let's get to what missed the cut for today's show. 56 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 2: Lebron passing, Jason Kidding triple doubles. Listen, last year, the 57 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 2: oldest guy in the league was Janis Haslam, who was 58 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 2: essentially a coach who didn't play this year. The oldest 59 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 2: guy in the league is Lebron James, who is still 60 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 2: unequivocally one of the seven or eight best players in 61 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: the league. I don't even know how to quantify what 62 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: we're seeing, but the Lakers did lose. A d had 63 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: a brutal night. He put up the true Draymond a 64 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: triple single, which you never want to do. Celtics beat 65 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: the seventy six Ers. The big win for your Celtics, Demanse. 66 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: Nice win for them, especially because the Sixers had beaten 67 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: them the other day and now the Celtics kind of 68 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: stabilized and they did it without I'll be honest, I 69 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: didn't watch that game. They did it without Christaps or 70 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: Jail and Brown, right, and so that's an excellent win 71 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: for them. They're number one of these right now. And 72 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift's parents are gonna meet at 73 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: Monday night football. Taylor's dad famously an Eagles fan, but 74 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 2: was wearing a Chief's lanyard at the Buenos Ardes concert 75 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: along with Travis Kelcey when Taylor ran and leapt into 76 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: his arms. It's gonna be I mean, it's gonna be 77 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: something else, you know what. I'll tell you something real quick. 78 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 2: So your mom, oh wait, gosh, darn it, maybe I 79 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: shouldn't hold on, let me wait to talk about this. 80 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: It's not actually a bad thing about your mom. It's 81 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: about a thing your mom and I are doing that. 82 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: I was considering inviting Travis Kelcey to and then it 83 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: occurred to me. I was like, if I invited Travis 84 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: and he actually came, would he would that then mean 85 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift is going, which actually I think would potentially 86 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: be as cool as it would be a bad thing. 87 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: Like if Taylor Swift goes anywhere, she becomes the center 88 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: of attention and the exact event that I'm thinking of, 89 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 2: I'm not sure if you would want that, but that's 90 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: where they're at in their relationship. Tomanse, I think these 91 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: two are gonna get married. I really do. I think 92 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: these two are gonna get married. And I think Gabe 93 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 2: said I think this was off the air, but I'll 94 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: do it on the air real quick. I think Gabe 95 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 2: last week was said that he thought this might shorten 96 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: Travis's career because he is well of ascended to a 97 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: totally new level of fame, wealth, all of these things. 98 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 2: I'm going the other way, which is I really think 99 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 2: it would appear Taylor Swift loves that her boyfriend is 100 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 2: this awesome athlete. You know. Kevin Wilde says life is 101 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: high school, that just life is just high school with adults, 102 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: and his theory on Taylor Swift Travis Kelcey is the following, 103 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: and it's a pretty sharp one. It's that in high school, 104 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift was the band girl, the music girl who 105 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 2: obviously had you know her because she was pretty. She 106 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: was a pretty well established musician, very young, had her 107 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 2: own area of popularity. But still in high school, the 108 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: star athletes don't really pay attention to the band kids. 109 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: And now she is now the star athlete, the homecoming king, 110 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: if you will. Is he enamored with her and she 111 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: is getting to live out all those high school football 112 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: games that maybe she didn't get to live out when 113 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,239 Speaker 2: she was in high school. So I think he's gonna 114 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: play forever. Now go ahead. 115 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 3: Sorry, No, I was just saying, it's almost like I 116 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 3: think I was gonna use a bad analogy, so I'm 117 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 3: going to back out saying like, maybe okay, good body 118 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 3: as a kid and like liveously through them. But oh yeah, no, 119 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 3: that's I mean that it's it's exactly like it's kind 120 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 3: of hit or missing. 121 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: It's not exactly, but I understand what you're saying, like 122 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 2: in this, in that analogy, it was I mean all 123 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I kind of not in a bad way 124 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: the way some people do, but I kind of did 125 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: that with you when it came to your high school 126 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 2: basketball career because I loved I know you, I know 127 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: you weren't no no, no, because usually it kind of has 128 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 2: nefarious implications. But I loved high school basketball. It's some 129 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 2: of the fondest memories of my life. But I wasn't great, 130 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I was I was on 131 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: a small school, bad team, and I was like the 132 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 2: fifth guy my senior year on that bad team. You 133 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 2: went to a giant school and were the best guy, 134 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 2: and so I got it was super fun for me 135 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: to be able to see you live that out and 136 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: kind of I don't want to say live vicariously, but 137 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: I got some of the same thrills of seeing you 138 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: do it. Uh what. There was Oh one other thing 139 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 2: on this before we get to the actual show that 140 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 2: I will say, it's always dangerous in the age of 141 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:13,119 Speaker 2: social media when you get to a whole new level 142 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 2: of fame, and people start going through old tweets, and 143 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: especially if you've had tweets from when you were in 144 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 2: high school yourself, and it has been absolutely delightful to 145 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: see that Travis has always been the same, super chill, 146 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 2: fun guy. All these old tweets that the swiftnies are 147 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: coming about is like him misspelling the word squirrel and 148 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: talking about feeding a squirrel bread. It's him saying, man, 149 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: the moon looks amazing. I'm just gonna vibe out and 150 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 2: watch the moon. It's no misogyny, it's no homophobia, it's 151 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 2: no racism. It's not like, oh, Travis Kelcey in ninth 152 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 2: grade it was super problematic. It's no Travis Kelcey in 153 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 2: ninth grade was crazy high, just chilling. 154 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 4: And it's just such a delight because he's such a 155 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 4: good dude that he doesn't have to It really feels 156 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 4: like right now he is living the best verse, the 157 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 4: best life he possibly could be. 158 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 2: All right, let's get to Chiefs Eagles. 159 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 3: Go ahead, All right, the Eagles are coming to Kansas 160 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 3: City for a little Super Bowl rematch. Got unfinished business? 161 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 3: Uh so, if this is a potential Super Bowl rematch, 162 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 3: should Andy Reid and the Chiefs keep some tricks under 163 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 3: their sleeve or should they let it all out? 164 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 2: Well, so that's actually a really interesting question, which is 165 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 2: do you want to keep some things in reserve if 166 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 2: you have to play this team again? And the answer 167 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 2: to that question is, you know, yes and no. I 168 00:09:55,800 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 2: for instance, there has been a lot of I'm gonna 169 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 2: take this kind of bigger picture and then we'll get 170 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 2: to the Eagles game. A lot of questions about the 171 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 2: usage of two Chief players in particular, who were wildly 172 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 2: important last year and this year have seen their snaps 173 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: and their opportunities cut. And that's Kadarius Tony and Jeric McKinnon. 174 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 2: And I am of and this is by the way, 175 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 2: very polarizing within kind of the Chief's community, if you will, 176 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 2: about what's happening. Did McKinnon get old? Is Tony just 177 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 2: not as good as people thought he was? All these things? 178 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 2: I am strongly of the belief that the Chiefs know 179 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: with Tony he cannot stay healthy for an entire season. 180 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: That has been the knock on him his whole pro career. 181 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 2: And McKinnon is a running back into his thirties. I want, 182 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 2: I mean, how old is Jet McKinnon. I'm gonna check 183 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 2: for it. I think he's He's thirty two, which for 184 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 2: a running back, or thirty one, pardon me for running back, 185 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 2: makes him one of the older running backs the league. 186 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 2: Tony's very young, but injury prone. Jeric McKinnon, who had 187 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: the nine touchdown catches as a running back last year. 188 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 2: He's really good. So I believe the Chiefs are not 189 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 2: necessarily like saving plays, but saving wear and tear on 190 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: those two players specifically. I think that they are really 191 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 2: trying to make sure those guys are give them the 192 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: best chance they have of being healthy going into the 193 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: or going into the stretched run. Now, now, when it 194 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 2: comes to playing the Eagles, I wouldn't hold anything reserve 195 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:44,599 Speaker 2: in reserve, with one exception if by some chance, and 196 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 2: the odds of this being the case are incredibly low, 197 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 2: but if by some chance, Steve Spagnolo, the Chiefs defensive coordinator, 198 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: has figured out how to stop the brotherly shove, I 199 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: wouldn't show the world that I figured that out yet. 200 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: If somehow he is actually like they have realized, wait, 201 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 2: there is a way to stop it. Here's what we do, 202 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 2: I would keep that in reserve. But other than that 203 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 2: you try to go win this football game because you 204 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 2: are in such an advantageous position for being able to 205 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: get the one seed that the big story from a 206 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 2: Chiefs perspective this weekend was the Chiefs hit a five 207 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 2: team parlay on best case scenario losses. So the Dolphins 208 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 2: didn't play. They lead the AFC East, but the last 209 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 2: time they did play, the Chiefs meet them. But this 210 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: weekend without playing, the AFC North leader Ravens lost, the 211 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: AFC South leader Jaguars lost, a team that has given 212 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 2: the Chiefs some trouble. The Bengals lost, a team that 213 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: a lot of people thought was going to this was 214 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: going to be the year. The Bills they lost and 215 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: fired their coordinator, and a team that I have no 216 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 2: fear of whatsoever, but is in the division and theoretically 217 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: could try to run down the Chiefs for the division title. 218 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 2: The Chargers they lost. So all of the teams the 219 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: Chiefs would have wanted to lose this weekend lost, and 220 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 2: so their ability to lock up the one seed earlier 221 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 2: than expected is very possible. Now, if you're going to 222 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: lose a game, you always want to lose non conference 223 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 2: games rather than conference games. But beating Philly off the 224 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 2: buy would send a signal to the rest of the 225 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 2: league that a lot of the hand ringing about the 226 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 2: Chiefs was overstated. And one other kind of long term 227 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: prediction when you look at the schedule, I think, so 228 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 2: Week seventeen, second to last week of the year, on 229 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 2: New Year's Eve, the Bengals come to Arrowhead, also known 230 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 2: if you're a Cincinnati fan as Burrowhead Stadium. I think 231 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 2: two things are gonna happen in that nationally televised one 232 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 2: of the games of the year, demanse. I think the 233 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 2: Chiefs will lock up the one seed with a week 234 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: to play, and I think the Bengals will be officially 235 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 2: eliminated from the playoffs. I think with a week left. 236 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 2: Because the Bengals, when we'll talk about them in a moment, 237 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: they lose tonight, they fall to five and five, they 238 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 2: damn they don't have to quite run the table. They 239 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 2: probably have to go to six and one the rest 240 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: of the way. I think that is going to be 241 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 2: the final Burrowhead Stadium revenge is the Chiefs not eliminating 242 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 2: them from the playoffs while locking up the one seed. 243 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 2: On December thirty, first and Week seventeen. You have a 244 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: follow up here de Manse. 245 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 3: Oh, well, I mean I feel like you kind of 246 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 3: answered it. But this game Mahomes is obvious. You said 247 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 3: the Mahomes has never lost to meaningful regular season game. 248 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 3: With everything riding on this one and and being at home, 249 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 3: and you know it being the Eagles, who they played 250 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 3: in the super Bowl last year, would this be a 251 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 3: meaningful game? 252 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: Well, I want to say so. People I think have 253 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: misconstrued what I'm saying by never lost a meaningful regular 254 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 2: season game. It's to me it's a very binary question. 255 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 2: Did losing this game cost you anything? And if for 256 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 2: the Chiefs, they every single playoff game has been played 257 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 2: at Arrowhead, they've either been the one or the two 258 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 2: seed every year, you can make the strong argument that 259 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 2: all of their regular season losses have been relatively speaking, 260 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 2: meaningless because they still achieved everything you can achieve in 261 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 2: a regular season. If the Chiefs end up losing this 262 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 2: game and still being the one seed, you can't you 263 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 2: can't get more than the one seed. So from that perspective, 264 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 2: I would say I am saying meaningless. From a mojo 265 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 2: or confidence or belief perspective, if you were to play 266 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 2: this team again in the Super Bowl. You could say 267 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 2: it's meaningful. There, go ahead, what what were you gonna say? 268 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 3: No? I was just gonna say how much is confidence 269 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 3: worth to you? Because I mean when players like I 270 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 3: know that after I'm not going to bring it back 271 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 3: to Game one of the season anymore. This last time fine, 272 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 3: But when they lost the Lions, Mahomes had said obviously 273 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: this didn't matter because they won the next game. But 274 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 3: Mahomes is embarrassed. I don't think I've ever heard him 275 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 3: say anything. 276 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 2: Well, embarrassed different. Embarrassed is different than not confident. So 277 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: I think confidence matters a lot for certain teams. I 278 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 2: think the Bills confidence has been shattered and you're seeing 279 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 2: it manifest itself in moments such as literally not being 280 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: able to execute a handoff. I mean that fumble they 281 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 2: have on Monday Night. They lack of confidence in the 282 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 2: coaching seft to where they're firing offensive coordinators. I think 283 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 2: the Chiefs, because they have had a nearly unprecedented run 284 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 2: of success, are as confident as any team in the 285 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: league no matter what happens. And I'll say we're talking confidence, 286 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 2: I'll say this much. Let me put it like this, 287 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 2: I think this game is way more meaningful for Philadelphia 288 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 2: because if you're Philadelphia and you look at it and 289 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 2: you say, Okay, we basically never lose when Jalen Hurts plays, 290 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:41,239 Speaker 2: except for the two times we've played the Chiefs, and 291 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: we're trying to get back to the super Bowl, and 292 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 2: the overwhelming favorite to be in the super Bowl on 293 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 2: the other side is the Chiefs. So I think from 294 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 2: a confidence perspective, this game has a hell of a 295 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: lot more meaning for Philadelphia. All right, next, all. 296 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 3: Right, so this is the best Thursday night game that 297 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 3: we've had all year, I assume, So the Ravens, I mean, if. 298 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 2: You don't count the season opener, that's right. I mean, 299 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: the season opener is not a season over the Chiefs Lions. 300 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 2: But oh yeah, but that doesn't really feel like a 301 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 2: Thursday night game because it's not a short week and 302 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 2: all that stuff. But yes, I agree with certainly the 303 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 2: best since then. 304 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 3: But go ahead, So Borrow and the Bengals are facing 305 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 3: off Lamar and the Ravens. You've always voiced the Cincinnati 306 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 3: Bengals are the scarier team. So who would you be 307 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 3: rooting for in this game? Would you be rooting for 308 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 3: a Ravens win, since he win, because everybody's saying the 309 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 3: Ravens are the scariest teams of the Chiefs right now. 310 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 2: Well, so I I'm rooting for Cincinnati purely from a 311 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 2: I want the Chiefs to be able to lock up 312 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 2: the one seed as early as possible. And Cincinnati is 313 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 2: not a real contender for the one seed. The Ravens 314 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: technically are. And if the Ravens got another af SEE loss, 315 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 2: then the Chiefs would be in just a super advantageous position. 316 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 2: If the Ravens dropped to four losses all AFC losses, 317 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 2: Kansas City would have a de facto tiebreaker over them. 318 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 2: They already have the tiebreaker over Miami, they already have 319 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 2: the tiebreaker over Jacksonville, to where you'd now be in 320 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 2: a point where if any of those teams had the 321 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 2: same record as Kansas City, Kansas City would get the 322 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 2: one I don't so I get in that regard. I'm 323 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 2: somewhat rooting for the Ravens from a kind of more 324 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 2: pragmatic standpoint. From an emotional standpoint, I didn't. I haven't 325 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 2: liked the arrogance that some of the Bengals players and 326 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 2: fans have exhibited because they beat Patrick Mahomes in overtime 327 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 2: once and the Borough Stadium stuff has really irritated me. 328 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 2: And if you remember Orlando Brown, he goes from Kansas 329 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 2: City to Cincinnati and then I don't know if it 330 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 2: was Jamar Chase or t Higgins or Tyler Boyd one 331 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 2: of the receivers like, oh, you know, there's a big 332 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: rivalry and we one up them. And now all the 333 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 2: Bengals fans are upset with the Orlando Brown because he 334 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 2: hasn't played that well. I like Burrow and Chase a ton. 335 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: I think some of the other guys chirp a little 336 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: a little much for my liking, but that's fine. I also, 337 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,239 Speaker 2: I also think it would be really interesting if the 338 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 2: Bengals and the Bills both missed the playoffs this year, 339 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 2: because it will kind of crystallize how impossible what Kansas 340 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 2: City is doing has been that these two guys that 341 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 2: were supposed to be the rivals, they can't even make 342 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 2: the playoffs every year, let alone make multiple Super Bowls, 343 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: let alone you know, host multiple conference championship games. But 344 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 2: who I'm rooting for is maybe not as important as this. 345 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 2: I think the Ravens are gonna win I think the 346 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 2: Bengals are hanged up. The Ravens are coming off a 347 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 2: terrible loss because they gave the game away, and I 348 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 2: think the Ravens are gonna win now them up, well, 349 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 2: that would be the concern. That would be that the 350 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 2: Bengals can't block the Ravens. And obviously that was the 351 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 2: case in their first matchup. But the first matchup, Joe 352 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 2: Burrow's injured, so we kind of throw it out right. 353 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 2: It was week two. Burrow couldn't move around at all. 354 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 2: Now the Ravens Marlin Humphrey is not expected to play, 355 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: so covering Chase is gonna be a problem. But if 356 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 2: you can't block him, then covering him is not as 357 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, not as critical of a 358 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 2: piece of the pie. And so here's what I will say. 359 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 2: I think if the Bengals lose this game, they're done. 360 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 2: I ain't the If you look at Cincinnati, the only 361 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 2: team they would have a tiebreaker over is Buffalo because 362 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 2: they would have been swept by the Ravens. They've already 363 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 2: lost to the Browns once, so their best case scenario 364 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 2: within the division would be a three to three divisional 365 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 2: record if they win all the rest of their games, 366 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 2: all of their losses are AFC losses, and the rest 367 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 2: of the way they don't have a single Cupcake on 368 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: the schedule. After tonight, they have the Steelers, They're in Jacksonville. 369 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 2: They're home for the Colts, which is supposed to be 370 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 2: the easiest, but the Colts have five wins. They're home 371 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 2: for the Vikings, which seemed like an easy one, but 372 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 2: the Vikings do have six wins. Then they're at the Steelers, 373 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 2: at the Chiefs, and home for the Browns. A Browns 374 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 2: team that year after year beats them up. If they 375 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 2: fall to five and five Demons, they need to go 376 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 2: six and one the rest of the way. I don't 377 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 2: think that's possible, and so I do think the Bengals 378 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: season is on the line tonight. I like the Ravens. 379 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: If I were gonna bet it, I'd probably bet the 380 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: Bengals because three and a half is too like. I 381 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 2: kind of on the record on this that any of 382 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 2: these AFC North matchups where it's more than three points, 383 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 2: unless there is something drastic that's happened with a quarterback, 384 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 2: I just think taking the points as smart. But I 385 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 2: think the Ravens are I'm sorry the Bengals are in 386 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: real rough shape if they lose tonight, and I think 387 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 2: they are gonna lose tonight, And I think Lamar and 388 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 2: the Ravens have a point to make about kind of 389 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 2: trying that last week. 390 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 3: Was a fluke. 391 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 2: The worry for the Ravens is while they have been 392 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 2: just dynamic and dominant throughout, they have just found a 393 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 2: way to give games away and having double digit leads 394 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: and blowing those games, not being able to close out 395 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 2: the culture early in the year. All of that is concerning. 396 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 2: But I think tonight they win. All right. Next I 397 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 2: think the Colts. 398 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 3: Beat the Ravens last year too for some reason. Maybe 399 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 3: I'm wrong, Go ahead. Yeah. So on Tuesday, Draymond Green 400 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 3: was ejected after putting Gobert in a choke hold for 401 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 3: grabbing up Klay Thompson. He's hit with a five game suspension. 402 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 3: Uh you joked, I mean the Warriors have been a disaster. 403 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 3: Steph has been the only one hitting shots. And you 404 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 3: joked that they were cooked earlier. But how exactly cooked 405 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 3: are they now that all this is unfolded. Okay? 406 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 2: And by the way, the Colts last year beat the Chiefs. 407 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 2: They didn't play the Ravens, but that was the Colts 408 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 2: biggest shocking when last year was Cobbies. So I don't 409 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 2: think that I've said that the Warriors this year are cooked. 410 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,239 Speaker 2: What I get I was actually impressed by how they 411 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 2: were playing very early in the season. 412 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 3: I have said sorry for not. 413 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 2: As of late is that the other than Steph, nobody 414 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 2: is really carrying their weight. And that is still the 415 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 2: case now. 416 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 3: Uh. 417 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 2: I don't wanna make any big picture proclamations about the 418 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 2: Warriors right now. I think that they have a trade 419 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 2: to make. I think that they probably will make. I 420 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 2: don't know what it is, but I don't think this 421 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 2: is gonna be the exact team they go into the 422 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 2: postseason with. And Steph has been so good, and aside 423 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 2: from Denver, it doesn't really look like there is a 424 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 2: team in the West that you can just pencil in 425 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 2: go ahead. 426 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 3: Is that trade you're gonna involve Draymond Green? Are you 427 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 3: talking about like some of the rookies or something on that. 428 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 2: No, No, no, I don't think they're gonna trade Draymond or Steph. 429 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 2: I'm sorry Draymond, but Draymond or Clay H. They're obviously 430 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 2: not gonna trade Steph. But I don't think it gonna 431 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 2: trade Raymond or Clay. I think I still think it's 432 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 2: on the board they trade Chris Paul, and then certainly 433 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 2: on the board they trade some of the young guys, 434 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 2: and you know, Zach Levine's available. There are different pieces 435 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 2: that will come available throughout the year. This is what 436 00:25:55,000 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 2: I'll say about, uh, the Draymond thing. Gobert was correct 437 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 2: that when Steph doesn't play, he doesn't want to play. 438 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 2: I mean, the fact of the matter is this, over 439 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 2: the last five years, Draymond has been ejected from four 440 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 2: of the nearly two hundred games Steph has played. That's 441 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: two percent, and seven of the seventy four games Steph 442 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 2: hasn't that's ten percent. So in the last thing about 443 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 2: it like this, in the last five years, Draymond has 444 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 2: been ejected eleven times. Seven of those games were games 445 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 2: Steph didn't play. That part's true. What's also true is this, 446 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 2: Draymond has just in the last three games been thrown 447 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 2: out of one game, then chirped at Anthony Edwards and 448 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards lit the Warriors on fire, and then got 449 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 2: thrown out of another game for attacking Rudy Gobert go 450 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 2: ahead to mase. 451 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 3: Get him off, Like the juice is not worth the 452 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 3: squeeze with this guy. Like before you could say that 453 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 3: he was the glue or he was the galvanizer of 454 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 3: the team. But dude, you're overstaying you're welcome at this point, 455 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 3: you're overdoing it. Like you did what you did before, 456 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 3: but now you're just becoming a problem. Like and the 457 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 3: other thing is like he said that the ruby Gobert 458 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 3: had his hand around Clay, but like, dude, he said 459 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 3: he had his hand, he had his arm around my guy. 460 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 3: Draymond had him hemmed up for like fifteen extra seconds 461 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 3: after that. 462 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 2: Well that's that, and that listen exactly. There is no 463 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: defending Draymond on this. His own coach, Steve Kerr, was 464 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 2: pleading with him to let him go. 465 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 3: He didn't. 466 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 2: I mean, he targeted Gobert because they have a long 467 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 2: standing beef that you know that he is he they've 468 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 2: never liked each other. He's clearly been waiting to do that. 469 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,959 Speaker 2: But just in the last two dozen games he's played, 470 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 2: he stopped on Sabonis's chest he remember in the playoffs 471 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 2: and got suspended. And if you just think over the 472 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 2: last thirteen months, of Basketball for punching Jordan Poole in 473 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 2: the face, for stomping on Sabonis's chest, and for putting 474 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert in a ten second choke hold. He got 475 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 2: suspended for a grand total of six games. 476 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 3: Like this idea that this is. 477 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 2: Too harsh or anything like that is just an absurdity. 478 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 2: It's just totally the And the point that I want 479 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 2: to make is as Draymond declines as an athlete and 480 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: is less and less effective, there's gonna be more and 481 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 2: more of this there just is like and so I 482 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 2: your point is the juice is not worth the squeeze. 483 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 2: I and I do feel like retroactively, people are forgiving 484 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 2: Draymond more and more for punching Jordan Poole because they're 485 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 2: seeing how Jordan Poole is acting with the Wizards, and 486 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 2: I understand that to a degree, but it's all What's 487 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: also true is that that wreck to their team, that 488 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: ruin they were the offending. 489 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 3: Bad time of the season to do that type of stuff. 490 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 2: I mean, no, they were the defending champs and it 491 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 2: ruins in their season before it got off the ground. 492 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 2: And so I just he is going to become more 493 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 2: and more volatile as as he continues to decline as 494 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: a player. Go ahead and ask them, do. 495 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 3: You think there's a chance that they did this? Do 496 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 3: you think there's a chance that he did this on 497 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 3: purpose because of the new resting policy and wanted to 498 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 3: just get kicked out. 499 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:26,239 Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't think that at all. I 500 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 2: do think it was especially because he's now suspended for 501 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 2: five games. Now. I do think that Clay also is frustrated. 502 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: I mean, Clay started this with Jaden McDaniels, who hadn't 503 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 2: done anything, and so I think right now the Warriors 504 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 2: are a team that has one all time legendary player 505 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 2: that is still playing at a super high level and 506 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 2: two other Hall of famers that are nowhere near that 507 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 2: level anymore, and they're st uggling with it. I think 508 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 2: for Steph, I'm sorry for Clay and for Draymond. It 509 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 2: is not only is it tough not being close to 510 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 2: the player you once were, but it might be even 511 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: tougher because Steph still is because the guy who's always 512 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 2: been the guy is still and by the way, he's 513 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 2: the oldest of the three and he's still at this 514 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 2: insane level. And for Clay and Draymond. They're not all right, 515 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 2: let's move on. 516 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 3: But uh, okay, all right, So yesterday Cleveland announced that 517 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson is going to undergo season ending shoulder surgery. 518 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 3: The Browns are still in it, though. There's six and 519 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 3: three with even with Watson playing poorly, how far do 520 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 3: you think your MVP Miles Garrett can take the defense 521 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 3: and the Browns without Deshaun Watson. 522 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 2: So I was shocked yesterday of how many people were 523 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 2: arguing that the Browns are now cooked because of the injury. Now, 524 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 2: I mean, they obviously can't make the super Bowl, but 525 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 2: I didn't think they could make the super Bowl before. 526 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 2: I still think they're gonna make the playoffs. I mean, 527 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 2: they've already banked six wins they still have. I mean, 528 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 2: here's their remaining schedule this week home for the Steelers. 529 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 2: Tough one, but about a coin flip game at the Broncos. 530 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 2: Maybe tougher than we thought a month ago, but absolutely winnable. 531 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 2: At the Rams. The Rams cannot block the Browns. I 532 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 2: think that is a Browns win. Home for the Jags, 533 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 2: they're gonna lose that home for the Bears. That's a 534 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 2: win at the Texans tough one home for the Jets, 535 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 2: that's a win, and then at the Bengals the final 536 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 2: week of the year. I still think the Browns make 537 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,959 Speaker 2: the playoffs. And here's the other piece of it. I 538 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 2: know that Deshaun's final half pre injury, he played really well. 539 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 2: He was fourteen to fourteen and played well. Over the 540 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 2: totality of the season. The Browns are dead last in 541 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 2: the NFL in passer rating. They're six and three despite DeShawn, PJ. 542 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 2: Walker and Dorian Thompson Robinson combining for a sixty seven 543 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 2: passer rating, eight touchdowns and twelve picks and one hundred 544 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 2: and eighty passing yards per game. Dead last. They have 545 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 2: gotten worse quarterback play than the Jets, than the Patriots, 546 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 2: than any team. DeShawn this year was averaging one hundred 547 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 2: and eighty five yards passing per game, had an eighty 548 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 2: four ratings, seven touchdowns, four picks. In this last game, 549 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 2: he was as bad as he's ever been in the 550 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 2: first half and then was excellent in the second half. 551 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 2: There's no denying it. So I think they're gonna be 552 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 2: okay now. I also think that long term it's a disaster, 553 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 2: and their decision to trade Josh Dobbs before the year 554 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 2: and a seventh round pick for a fifth round pick 555 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 2: goes down as one of the worst misevaluations of a 556 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 2: guy you have in the building that we've seen recently. 557 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 2: If they had Josh Dobbs, they'd be fine. But I 558 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 2: still think this is a playoff team. You got some 559 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 2: follow ups there. 560 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, So this Watson injury isn't just about the injury. 561 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 3: So he obviously has the season ending ending injuries and 562 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 3: isn't going to be available, but he obviously just got 563 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 3: that huge contract. What do you think this means for 564 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 3: player in their contracts and player empowerment for the future. 565 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 2: Well, listen, I mean, I think it was pretty clear 566 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 2: when Joe Burrow and Lamar and Jalen couldn't get fully 567 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 2: guaranteed deals that this was a one off. And it's 568 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 2: even more validated that it's a one off by the 569 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 2: fact that the Browns so deeply regreted. What is noteworthy 570 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 2: about it? And I want to listen, there are very 571 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 2: few things on the Internet that people say to me 572 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:02,719 Speaker 2: that that irritate me. Oddly, one of the things that 573 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 2: really irritates me is when folks try to well actually 574 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 2: me on understanding the salary cap in the NFL, guys, 575 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 2: I almost can guarantee you, unless you are tweeting from 576 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 2: an NFL front office, I understand it better than you do. 577 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 2: And maybe maybe I understand it, maybe you understand it 578 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 2: as much as I do. But I made the point 579 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 2: on television yesterday that the bones of the Deshaun Watson contract, 580 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:43,240 Speaker 2: it was a five year, two hundred and thirty million dollar, 581 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 2: fully guaranteed deal. So if they had simply spread it 582 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 2: out all evenly, then it would be a forty six 583 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 2: million dollars per year cap it. Okay, that's that's what 584 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 2: it would be. They decided in year one that you know, 585 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,919 Speaker 2: what we're gonna do is, because he has a pending suspension, 586 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 2: we're gonna pay him basically the league minimum in year one. 587 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 2: So the game checks that he loses it, doesn't you know, 588 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 2: he loses as little money as possible. And Browns fans 589 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 2: came to me and said, that's what every team with 590 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 2: every contract does. No, they don't. Now, they very often 591 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 2: in year one have the base salary low because the 592 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 2: players getting the giant signing bonus checks so they don't matter. 593 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 2: And then they can spread that out over the course 594 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 2: of the deal, but making it literally the league minimum 595 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 2: was a unique move that at the time everyone understood 596 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 2: was in part to protect him from losing money in 597 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 2: the suspension. You can call it unethical, you can call 598 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 2: it immral, you can call it whatever you want. That's 599 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 2: what they did. But that meant the five year two 600 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 2: from a cap perspective, essentially turned into a four year 601 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 2: to twenty. So now that's fifty five million per year 602 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 2: against their cap. Okay, But then this off season they 603 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 2: restructured it to give them more cap flexibility this year, 604 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 2: so his cap hit this season was only twenty million dollars. 605 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 2: And I understand folks love to add they're like, oh, 606 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,240 Speaker 2: the salary cap is fake. People that don't understand actually 607 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 2: how the salary cap works. That's what they say. They're like, oh, 608 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 2: the cap is fake. You can always move money around. 609 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 2: And as I've said before and I will say again, 610 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 2: you can, but those bills come due. So I will 611 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 2: try to explain this as simply as possible for the 612 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 2: fake gms out there that for some reason think they 613 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 2: have a better understanding of this stuff than I do. Again, 614 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 2: I'm there are a lot of people that talk about 615 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 2: stuff that actually know what they're talking about, and they 616 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 2: are maybe less abrasive than I am some of my 617 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 2: contemporaries in the media. Maybe they have the and more 618 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 2: power to them, but I cannot stand. I just can't stand. 619 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 2: Folks that I wouldn't trust to balance a checkbook tell 620 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 2: me that this is actually how the cap works. It's 621 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 2: not complicated, guys. They have guaranteed Deshaun Watson two hundred 622 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 2: and thirty million dollars at some point. That means two 623 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty million dollars of cap charges are going 624 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 2: to be applied to the Cleveland Browns. So when two 625 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 2: years into the deal, last year and this year the 626 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 2: total cap charges to the Browns have been right at 627 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 2: thirty million, that means over the next three years of 628 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 2: the deal, and then you can add some dummy years, 629 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 2: two hundred million million dollars must be up against the cap. 630 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 2: So what does that mean? That means very simply to 631 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,800 Speaker 2: Shaun Watson for the Browns, next year has a cap 632 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 2: charge of sixty four million dollars, The following year has 633 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 2: a cap charge of sixty four million dollars. The following 634 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 2: year has a cap charge of sixty four million dollars. Now, 635 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,839 Speaker 2: if you actually can do math, you might say, wait, 636 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 2: sixty four plus sixty four plus sixty four, that's only 637 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 2: one ninety two. You said it was two hundred. Yes, 638 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 2: and then a year after the contract's over, he has 639 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 2: a void year where he's not on the team or 640 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 2: they've given him a contract extension that has a cap 641 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 2: charge of eight million dollars. The point that I am 642 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 2: making is this, the Cleveland Browns kept borrowing from future 643 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 2: Cleveland brown years to accommodate the Deshaun Watson contract. They, 644 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 2: as it turns out, correctly believed this year, we have 645 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 2: a super Bowl caliber defense. Let's go try to win 646 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 2: it right now. Unfortunately for them, DeShawn was bad and 647 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:21,240 Speaker 2: now he's hurt. What that means in practical purposes is this, 648 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson, not via cash via cap, is still owed 649 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 2: two hundred million dollars and only has three years left 650 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 2: on his deal. That's why each of the next three 651 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 2: years Deshaun Watson will have the highest cap charge in 652 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 2: NFL history. And if Browns fans want to come to 653 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,399 Speaker 2: me and say, well, Nick, what they'll do is they'll 654 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 2: restructure it again. Okay, maybe they will but that bill 655 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 2: is coming due and your runway to pay that bill 656 00:39:55,280 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 2: is shortening. And so the too long didn't listen version 657 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 2: is this was their opportunity and that bill is now 658 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 2: coming doing spades. And I think the best Browns defense 659 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 2: were going to have seen this year's and unfortunately for them, 660 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 2: they had an ineffective quarterback and now an injured quarterback, 661 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 2: and I think they are about. 662 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 3: To be a cycling any in that contract. 663 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 2: So Barnwell, So here's the Barnwell asked that question, which 664 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:35,320 Speaker 2: was if you basically offered him up for a seventh 665 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 2: round pick, would someone take it on. So here is 666 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 2: what I think folks need to understand. He might be 667 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:50,919 Speaker 2: tradeable because when you trade for a player, all you're 668 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 2: trading for is their the base salary. So if a 669 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 2: team wanted him, they would owe him only forty six 670 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 2: time three what's that one thirty eight? They would owe 671 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 2: him one hundred and thirty eight million, fully guaranteed for 672 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,760 Speaker 2: the next three years. Now, the Browns would still owe 673 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:14,919 Speaker 2: a sixty two million dollars dead cap hit, either all 674 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 2: next year or spread over the next two years because 675 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 2: of his signing bonus and his restructuring accelerating onto the cap. 676 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 2: I do think a team might take a flyer on 677 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 2: him if they wanted to cut the court. I do 678 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 2: because forty six million a year for three years is 679 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 2: not as onerous as what the Browns are looking at. 680 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,359 Speaker 2: But I don't think they're They're gonna admit defeat, and 681 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 2: I don't think that's what they're gonna do. I will 682 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 2: tell you this much though, this Browns team with Baker 683 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 2: Mayfield right now would be a legitimate AFC. Conmit, it 684 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,840 Speaker 2: absolutely would be. All right, last thing. 685 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 3: All right. Dan Rolovski went on Pat McAfee's show earlier 686 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 3: this week and said that he's heard that Bill Belichick 687 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 3: is leaving. Bill Belichick is leaving next year and already 688 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 3: knows where he's going. Oh, with Belichick leaving New England 689 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 3: as a loser, proved that Tom Brady was the one, 690 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,280 Speaker 3: you know, providing for his legacy this whole time. 691 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 2: No, I mean no, I'm not gonna let people do 692 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 2: the revision. It's history on this. Like the first three 693 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 2: Super Bowls the Patriots won, they were a far better 694 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,879 Speaker 2: defense than offense. The last super Bowl the Patriots won, 695 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 2: they held the Rams, who were the second highest scoring 696 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,359 Speaker 2: team in the league that year to three points. This 697 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 2: was obviously a great part. Now Belichick has lost his fastball, 698 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:36,879 Speaker 2: his drafts have been bad as of late. 699 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 3: People, but the idea. 700 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,800 Speaker 2: That the well, I'm maybe people don't like him. That's fine, 701 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 2: He's probably earned that. But the but the fact of 702 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 2: the matter is he's the greatest coach of all time, 703 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,839 Speaker 2: was the architect of the greatest dynasty of all time. 704 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 2: Now I do think he's not going to be on 705 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,840 Speaker 2: the Patriots next year. I do think that part's correct. 706 00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 2: But the follow up here is, so go ahead and 707 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 2: ask that. 708 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so you're obviously in the business and you 709 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 3: hear things as well for fans, explain what it means 710 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,720 Speaker 3: to quote unquote hear things. 711 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 2: Okay, so that you listen, that usually. 712 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 3: Means also let me ask it, and how do you 713 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 3: determine what you can and cannot say on air? 714 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,799 Speaker 2: Well, that's all right, So these are complicated questions. The 715 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 2: hearing things usually means one or two people that I 716 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 2: kind of believe know, but I'm not dead certain I 717 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 2: have said it, so I will I will repeat it 718 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 2: with the couching of I'm not actually reporting this, like 719 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:51,320 Speaker 2: that's just you know, it's out there in the ether. 720 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 2: My only concern when things are the hearing things stuff 721 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 2: is how much of it is uh snake eating its tail. 722 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 2: So I said on the air three weeks ago that 723 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 2: I think what's gonna happen is that the Los Angeles 724 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 2: Chargers are gonna trade a second round pick for Bill Belichick. 725 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 2: I had not I have no sourcing on that. I was. 726 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 2: The sourcing was my brain. I was like, the Chargers 727 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 2: are probably gonna fire Brandon Staley, but they probably, like 728 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 2: Kellen Moore, want to keep him. They want someone to 729 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 2: come in. Belichick will want to go to a team 730 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 2: with a quarterback to try to get Shula's record. Like 731 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 2: this seems to make sense. That was I was not 732 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 2: reporting that at all, and I didn't pretend I was. 733 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 2: I just said of the teams that might trade for him, 734 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 2: that Belichick would want to go to you know what, 735 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,800 Speaker 2: you know, what's the Venn diagram? I said the Chargers. 736 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 2: Over the last couple weeks since I said that, more 737 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 2: and more people are saying that, which and then you 738 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 2: you have Orlovsky saying on McAfee, you know he's hearing. 739 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 2: So I always wonder on the hearing things stuff. If 740 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 2: what sometimes happens is and I'm not saying that's what's 741 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 2: happening here, what does that mean. 742 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 3: I was the first one to do is I did that? 743 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 3: You know? That's I started saying. 744 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 2: No, that's that's not what I'm saying. If you if 745 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 2: you're gonna make a joke, have it ab one the 746 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,959 Speaker 2: audience understands, and b B one that actually makes sense. 747 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 2: Uh I. So the reason I brought that up is 748 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 2: I wonder at times if what happens is someone throws 749 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:51,840 Speaker 2: something out there that is just their opinion that gets 750 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 2: interpreted as a half a report, and then an actual 751 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 2: someone that might have inside information in the background repeats 752 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 2: it like oh, well, you know this is out there, 753 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 2: But then when they say it, it actually becomes a 754 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 2: little newsy, and then all of a sudden people are 755 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 2: hearing it. Does that make like the if I were 756 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,880 Speaker 2: to I'll use a different, just kind of fake example. 757 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 2: If I were to say to so I'm pals with 758 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:32,879 Speaker 2: Adam Lefko, right, who's on inside the NBA. NBA guy. 759 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 2: If he and I are talking basketball and he's a 760 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 2: Big Sixers fan and he says to me, just just chatting, 761 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,400 Speaker 2: He's like yeah, you know, I think the Sixers should 762 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,800 Speaker 2: go after and this is I'm making this up entirely. 763 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,919 Speaker 2: I think the Sixers should go after Zach Levine, right, 764 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, that's interesting, it'd be an interesting fit. 765 00:46:56,239 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 2: They have the pieces whatever. And then on TV I 766 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 2: go out and I'm like, you know, one of the 767 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 2: places to watch Zach Lavine at is Philly. I was 768 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,760 Speaker 2: talking to, you know, an NBA person recently. They really 769 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:16,360 Speaker 2: liked the fit, right, So I didn't say that everybody. 770 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 2: I shouldn't say everybody. A lot of people know that 771 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:24,360 Speaker 2: I have a relationship with the guy who runs the Sixers, 772 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:29,319 Speaker 2: Daryl Morey. They could hear me say that. Assume that 773 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 2: when I said, you know, I got you know, I 774 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 2: was talking to NBA person. They like the fit, That's 775 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,440 Speaker 2: who I'm talking about. And then all of a sudden, 776 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:41,920 Speaker 2: there it's like, hey, hearing Zach Levine connected to the Sixers, 777 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,359 Speaker 2: when in reality it would have just been because a 778 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 2: Sixers fan who's a buddy of mine said he liked 779 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 2: the fit and he's so that. So the that is 780 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,440 Speaker 2: the difference between you know, I'm hearing such and such, 781 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,400 Speaker 2: and you got to know who's saying it. If Jay Glazer, 782 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 2: who doesn't report many things but as a near perfect 783 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 2: hit rate, says he's hearing things, it probably means he's 784 00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:10,320 Speaker 2: hearing it from an actual decision maker. If I say it, 785 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:16,399 Speaker 2: it could Demonse could have mentioned it. Who knows, Like, well, 786 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,359 Speaker 2: that did happen. That did happen in a very roundabout way. 787 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,400 Speaker 2: I was on TV and we were talking. We were 788 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 2: playing the Jordan Poole Highlight, and I just said in passing, 789 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,720 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, and I can't believe some people 790 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,719 Speaker 2: thought this guy could average thirty a game. And while 791 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 2: it's like nobody thought he could average thirty a game. 792 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 2: And I said, no, some of our colleagues did. I 793 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 2: can't even remember who, but I heard it, and then 794 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 2: I realized that who was Demanse? 795 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 3: Wait, so yeah, either way. She said earlier that you 796 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,000 Speaker 3: didn't get my joke. I got the joke, you just 797 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 3: didn't get it. It's cool, it's fine. 798 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 2: Well, you you got the joke. You told the joke. 799 00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 3: Wait, but the fans also got the joke. It wasn't 800 00:48:59,040 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 3: just me. 801 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 2: Oh the chattel. 802 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 3: There's like eight folks in the chat saying that they 803 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 3: got the joke. Soldier boy said that he was the 804 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 3: first rapper to do this, that and the third, and 805 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 3: he's like, not the first, and that's just his bit, 806 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,319 Speaker 3: and you like had like a start to a soldier boy. 807 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 2: But I wasn't saying, Okay, you weren't. 808 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 3: Saying you were the first one to do something. You 809 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 3: were saying you were the first one to say something. 810 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 2: And then they But so the I what I do 811 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:32,239 Speaker 2: think the Belichick Chargers thing was not a thing people 812 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,239 Speaker 2: were talking about three weeks ago when I kind of 813 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,799 Speaker 2: threw out as a possibility. On first things first, I 814 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,799 Speaker 2: am not claiming that that is why people are now 815 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,800 Speaker 2: talking about it, though I do think that a month 816 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,400 Speaker 2: ago it wasn't really out there in the ether. And 817 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 2: I just kind of put put it together because there 818 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,640 Speaker 2: are not a lot of places that I think are 819 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,399 Speaker 2: going to fire their coach that also Belichick would want 820 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,560 Speaker 2: to go to that have a quarterback. But the Chargers do, 821 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:05,759 Speaker 2: all right? Do our gambling show next, What's Right? All right? 822 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 2: Welcome back in What's Driving Nick Right? 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All right, now are week eleven picks coming 840 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:09,120 Speaker 2: off our best week of the year three one and one. Listen, 841 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 2: we have not been dynamite this year, but as I said, 842 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:18,040 Speaker 2: hovering right around five hundred and Luki there fifty games 843 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 2: in twenty four to twenty five and one. Now that's 844 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,359 Speaker 2: still minus three point five units, but only a game 845 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:28,640 Speaker 2: below five hundred, and this was right around where we 846 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,279 Speaker 2: were last year when we got red hot. So the 847 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,920 Speaker 2: picks last week. Jacksonville plus three was obviously a disaster. 848 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:39,280 Speaker 2: They got annihilated. But the other ones Cleveland plus six, 849 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 2: they went outright, Houston plus seven, they went out right, 850 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,719 Speaker 2: Detroit minus three. That's a push against the Chargers, so 851 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 2: be it. And Dallas minus sixteen and a half against 852 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,120 Speaker 2: the Giants went exactly how I told you it was 853 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,759 Speaker 2: going to go. Now, once again, I got a little 854 00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,880 Speaker 2: unlucky in that. For I did that my three picks 855 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,440 Speaker 2: on TV, which I pick from here, and I had 856 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,440 Speaker 2: five picks to choose from, I included the one loss. 857 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,919 Speaker 2: So that's unfortunate. So instead of going three and oh 858 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,719 Speaker 2: or two oho and one on television, I went just 859 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,480 Speaker 2: two and one. But we're twenty four to twenty five 860 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,719 Speaker 2: and one on the year. Demondse what's my first pick 861 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 2: of the week. 862 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,600 Speaker 3: Your first pick of the week is Pittsburgh plus one 863 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,400 Speaker 3: at Cleveland. Now you can get it out plus one 864 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,440 Speaker 3: and a half. Okay, So Pittsburgh plus. 865 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:35,920 Speaker 2: One and a half. Uh So the Cleveland is starting 866 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:40,120 Speaker 2: Dorian Thompson Robinson, a fifth round rookie who I be. Listen, 867 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,400 Speaker 2: he only started one game this year, and that was 868 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,240 Speaker 2: the game Deshaun Watson pulled himself out of a couple 869 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,240 Speaker 2: hours for kickoff. He was terrible, but I'm not gonna 870 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,359 Speaker 2: hold that against him. He didn't get the full week 871 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,360 Speaker 2: of practice and he didn't know he was gonna start. 872 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,560 Speaker 2: I thought Dorian Thompson Robinson was excellent in the preseason, 873 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 2: and I think he'll be okay. I just don't know 874 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,279 Speaker 2: if he'll be okay this week. I also maybe I'm 875 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,439 Speaker 2: the only one I respect what the Steelers have done. 876 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 2: I know that they probably from a metrics and a 877 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 2: stats standpoint, they shouldn't be six and three, but they are. 878 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,440 Speaker 2: I picked them before the year to win that division. 879 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,640 Speaker 2: I still think they're live to do that. I think 880 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:24,240 Speaker 2: that the offense has, I don't want to say gotten better, 881 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,799 Speaker 2: but shown a few signs of life over the last 882 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,680 Speaker 2: couple of weeks since Matt Canada moved down from the 883 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:35,640 Speaker 2: booth to the sideline. And right now, I told you 884 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 2: AFC North teams getting points. I said it more than 885 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:43,560 Speaker 2: three and a half is an almost must bet. I'm 886 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,040 Speaker 2: not betting the Thursday night game tonight, but I know 887 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 2: this is only one and a half. I just like 888 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:53,319 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh in this spot. AFC North Division games underdogs are 889 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,719 Speaker 2: sixty nine, forty six and three against the spread in 890 00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,759 Speaker 2: the last decade and tomlin is a doll has been 891 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 2: one of the most profitable plays in the NFL over 892 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 2: the last five years. So I like Pittsburgh. I think 893 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,760 Speaker 2: they're gonna win out right, go ahead, Demansey. 894 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,280 Speaker 3: Speaking of years, this is going to be the second 895 00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,520 Speaker 3: lowest NFL over under in the last ten years, so 896 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,439 Speaker 3: a lot of defense being played on a scoring. 897 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 2: Really hold on what's the total in the total in 898 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:21,239 Speaker 2: this game's thirty three? 899 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that that kind of sounds about right. Uh. 900 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,320 Speaker 3: I mean that's considering what both. 901 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 2: Cos that's not the a thirty three point NFL over 902 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,520 Speaker 2: not under is. And I'm looking right now at see 903 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 2: thirty two and a half in some spots, that's crazy. 904 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,479 Speaker 2: Thirty two and a half for Saints Brown's last year, 905 00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,400 Speaker 2: and uh, in thirty three or thirty two and a 906 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,719 Speaker 2: half this week, that's wild. I didn't realize that that is, 907 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:51,960 Speaker 2: but that and again you're not getting a lot of points, 908 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:53,759 Speaker 2: but give me a point and a half if they 909 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,480 Speaker 2: lose seventeen sixteen. I guess what Vegas and that by 910 00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 2: the way, if it's a thirty three point total and 911 00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,480 Speaker 2: it's point point and a half spread, that's what Vegas 912 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 2: is saying. This is a seventeen to sixteen Cleveland win, 913 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:06,480 Speaker 2: all right. 914 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,719 Speaker 3: Next next you've got Jacksonville minus six and a half 915 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:12,080 Speaker 3: versus Tennessee. 916 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jags at home bounce back spot after getting blown 917 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,600 Speaker 2: out by the Demons. Doesn't like it. He's making a 918 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,160 Speaker 2: very unattractive face about it. I don't think you want 919 00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:29,160 Speaker 2: that on for the YouTube audience. Pout and the one 920 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:34,080 Speaker 2: of the mistakes some gamblers make is in a positive 921 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,799 Speaker 2: or negative direction overreacting to what we saw last one 922 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:42,520 Speaker 2: week ago. I understand the Jags couldn't block the Niners. 923 00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,560 Speaker 2: The Niners looked like a machine and the Jags looked terrible. 924 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:50,200 Speaker 2: The Jags that here's a good stat from our producers. 925 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 2: Teams good teams teams above five hundred who scored less 926 00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,560 Speaker 2: than fourteen points in the previous week over the last 927 00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,480 Speaker 2: decade are one oh one and seventy seven against the 928 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:04,360 Speaker 2: spread in the last in the last decade. Why because 929 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:08,520 Speaker 2: people overreact to them. This should Jacksonville at home against Tennessee. 930 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,080 Speaker 2: Should be laying more than a touchdown. They're laying six 931 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:17,239 Speaker 2: and a half. I understand Vrabel getting points. Typically he's 932 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,040 Speaker 2: not quite Tomlin, but he's in that realm. I just 933 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:24,319 Speaker 2: don't like this Tennessee team at all. Jacksonville needs this game, 934 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 2: especially with Houston coming on hot for the division, and 935 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:32,200 Speaker 2: that's a losable game next week against Houston. The Jags 936 00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 2: are not losing three straight. They are a good team. 937 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,160 Speaker 2: Their losses this year have come to the Chiefs, the 938 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 2: Texans and the Niners, two excellent teams. 939 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 3: Question, I gonna win by seven? 940 00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think they will. I think they actually 941 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,040 Speaker 2: win by double digits. I like the Jags minus six 942 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:50,759 Speaker 2: and a half. 943 00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:54,120 Speaker 3: Next Seahawks minus one at the Rams. 944 00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:59,720 Speaker 2: All right, all of the trends on this are. 945 00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:01,319 Speaker 3: For me. 946 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:08,160 Speaker 2: McVeigh owns Pete Carroll, which I understand has been a problem. 947 00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,920 Speaker 2: Gino is a favorite. Is not good. This is a 948 00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:16,160 Speaker 2: very straightforward one. I think the Rams right now are 949 00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:20,920 Speaker 2: actually slightly overvalued. They're obviously, and we talk about this 950 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,080 Speaker 2: every week. They obviously are not gonna have home field 951 00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:28,440 Speaker 2: advantage in any of these games, and the Rams coming 952 00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,440 Speaker 2: into the year, people thought this could be one of 953 00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,440 Speaker 2: the worst teams in football. They threw everyone off the 954 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:38,840 Speaker 2: scent because in Week one against Seattle they blew them 955 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,520 Speaker 2: out and people are like, oh, maybe the Rams are 956 00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:44,320 Speaker 2: gonna be legit. They're not. Since then, their wins have 957 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:48,720 Speaker 2: come in overtime against the Colts and against the Cardinals, 958 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,400 Speaker 2: who were at the time maybe the worst team in football. 959 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:56,680 Speaker 2: I think the Rams have a brutal offensive line. I 960 00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:02,880 Speaker 2: think Seattle is a good team that has real trouble 961 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,000 Speaker 2: with the best teams in the league. They lost to 962 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,160 Speaker 2: the Bengals, they got blown out by the Ravens. I 963 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,320 Speaker 2: don't think they're gonna have trouble with the Rams here. 964 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,480 Speaker 2: I don't mind laying the points, especially because I think 965 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:18,400 Speaker 2: it'll probably be at least fifty to fifty Seahawks fans there, 966 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,680 Speaker 2: and I think the Rams are in a rough spot 967 00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 2: moving forward the rest of the year. When you look 968 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,440 Speaker 2: at what the Rams have on their schedule after the 969 00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:31,160 Speaker 2: Cardinals game, it's hard to fight. They have the Cardinals 970 00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,320 Speaker 2: and the Giants. Aside from that, I don't know if 971 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,080 Speaker 2: they have another win on their schedule. I like Seattle, 972 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 2: but I shouldn't say bounce back spot because they won 973 00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,280 Speaker 2: last week into the Commanders. But I like Seattle. I'm 974 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,360 Speaker 2: only laying a point. I'll take Seattle minus one. 975 00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 3: You've got my blessing on that one. 976 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:48,960 Speaker 2: You like that one? Okay, good, I'm glad to hear it. 977 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,080 Speaker 3: Next Minnesota plus two and a half at Denver. 978 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:58,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think people are right now overvaluing Denver and 979 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:03,640 Speaker 2: undervaluing Minnesota. Minnesota's coached very well by Kevin O'Connell, Josh 980 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:10,360 Speaker 2: Dobbs has played well, and Denver Man Buffalo did everything 981 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,480 Speaker 2: they could to lose that game, and Denver still almost 982 00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:17,480 Speaker 2: gave it to him. Denver still tried to give it 983 00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:21,280 Speaker 2: right back to him. I think the it's very interesting 984 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:25,400 Speaker 2: watching Sean Payton call plays for this Denver team because 985 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:29,360 Speaker 2: even though Russ has some of his numbers are shockingly good, 986 00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,880 Speaker 2: Sean Payton clearly doesn't trust him and is trying to 987 00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:36,439 Speaker 2: coach around the quarterback and the play calling. I don't 988 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,960 Speaker 2: think that will work against Minnesota. I think Minnesota is 989 00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,520 Speaker 2: gonna be able to take care of the football. Minnesota 990 00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 2: is in a spot where they are you know, they 991 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,600 Speaker 2: can't obviously lock up a playoff spot, but because it 992 00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:53,160 Speaker 2: is so hard to find a third wild card team 993 00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:56,440 Speaker 2: in the NFC other than Minnesota. They're in a really 994 00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,960 Speaker 2: strong position. They also maybe are tricking themselves in the 995 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,760 Speaker 2: thinking they could run down Detroit in the division. Minnesota 996 01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:08,000 Speaker 2: is gonna win this game, outright. I like Minnesota. I'm 997 01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:12,280 Speaker 2: really surprised by this line. I guess it's Josh Dobbs 998 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,760 Speaker 2: on the roads against a defense that's played well the 999 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,360 Speaker 2: last month, and credit at defense. It has played well. 1000 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,800 Speaker 2: It's played really well since giving up those seventy points. 1001 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,840 Speaker 2: Played well against the Chiefs twice, played well against Josh Allen. 1002 01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,080 Speaker 2: I just think Minnesota is a better team than the 1003 01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:30,200 Speaker 2: Denver Broncos, and I anger right now. Denver on a 1004 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,520 Speaker 2: short week after an emotional win, is primed for a 1005 01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,480 Speaker 2: bit of a letdown spot after a couple emotional wins, 1006 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,640 Speaker 2: I should say, beating the Chiefs and beating the Bills. 1007 01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:42,200 Speaker 2: I like Minnesota plus the two and a half, all right, last. 1008 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,360 Speaker 3: One, I think that's gonna be a good game. Last one. 1009 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,480 Speaker 3: You got Kansas City minus two and a half at 1010 01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,360 Speaker 3: Philly or verse Philly? Sorry at home? Yeah? 1011 01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:56,480 Speaker 2: At home? Yeah. I don't care about the Mahomes against 1012 01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:00,920 Speaker 2: the spread numbers because He's almost always such a huge favorite. 1013 01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,040 Speaker 2: It's so rare to be able to get the Chiefs 1014 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:08,440 Speaker 2: laying less than a field goal. When you have that opportunity, 1015 01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,720 Speaker 2: I think it's almost a must bet. If you remember, 1016 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,480 Speaker 2: they were underdogs in the AFC Championship Game against Cincinnati 1017 01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,160 Speaker 2: despite it being at Arrowhead because of mahomes injury. They 1018 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,080 Speaker 2: were underdogs in the Super Bowl. I think the Chiefs 1019 01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:25,240 Speaker 2: Andy Reid off a bye is about as good as 1020 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:26,360 Speaker 2: it gets in this league. 1021 01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:26,520 Speaker 3: Now. 1022 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,760 Speaker 2: I understand the Eagles are also off a bye, but 1023 01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:36,400 Speaker 2: mahomes Is unwavering confidence that the offense is going to 1024 01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:41,880 Speaker 2: get it going is incredibly encouraging. 1025 01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,440 Speaker 3: Say it again, Oh you need. 1026 01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? Just I mean, I think the Chiefs defense is 1027 01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:54,840 Speaker 2: excellent and Mahomes absolutely It does not seem like false 1028 01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:59,400 Speaker 2: bravado that the Chiefs are going to get it going 1029 01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:00,600 Speaker 2: on the same. 1030 01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,200 Speaker 3: We don't have it figured out like that's obviously. I 1031 01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:05,640 Speaker 3: feel like that's the stands he's gonna no. 1032 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,240 Speaker 2: But I just I just believe I I those are 1033 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,800 Speaker 2: You're right. He wouldn't say it, He wouldn't say the 1034 01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:15,440 Speaker 2: other that he didn't have confidence, But I believe him 1035 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:17,640 Speaker 2: and the way he has said it, and the way 1036 01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:21,040 Speaker 2: he has conducted him the way he conducted himself after 1037 01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,320 Speaker 2: the Dolphins win when the offense didn't play well and 1038 01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:29,320 Speaker 2: the Chiefs won, he seemed more confident than had they 1039 01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:33,360 Speaker 2: won thirty five thirty two because I think he believes 1040 01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,240 Speaker 2: correctly the offense will get it figured out and that 1041 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:40,040 Speaker 2: Chiefs defense just dominated what had been the highest scoring 1042 01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,840 Speaker 2: offense in the league. And so the Chiefs are at 1043 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,960 Speaker 2: home laying less than a field goal off a bye 1044 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,360 Speaker 2: against an Eagles team that while their record is excellent 1045 01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,920 Speaker 2: and I have massive respect for the Eagles the Eagles, 1046 01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,959 Speaker 2: it's not like they have looked like a flawless team 1047 01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,120 Speaker 2: up to this point in the season. This is to 1048 01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,800 Speaker 2: me a great spot for the Chiefs to remind everyone 1049 01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,919 Speaker 2: they're still the best team in the NFL. Hands down, 1050 01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,040 Speaker 2: all lay the two and a half with Kansas City. 1051 01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,720 Speaker 2: So the picks for the week Pittsburgh plus one and 1052 01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,440 Speaker 2: a half at Cleveland, Jacksonville minus six and a half 1053 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:14,480 Speaker 2: against Tennessee Seattle minus one in Arizona, Minnesota minus or 1054 01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,760 Speaker 2: plus two and a half at Denver, and the Chiefs 1055 01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,600 Speaker 2: minus two and a half against Philly. All Right, Demons 1056 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,440 Speaker 2: what's your teaser this week? Pal? Last week we know 1057 01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:26,480 Speaker 2: another two and one teaser. The jag screwed you. Sorry 1058 01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,800 Speaker 2: about that, Pal. What's the teaser this week? 1059 01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:34,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we lost last week's obviously. This week is 1060 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,760 Speaker 3: a three teams seven and a half point teaser. We're 1061 01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,800 Speaker 3: teasing the Cowboys from minus ten and a half to 1062 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,200 Speaker 3: minus three Panthers at Carolina. 1063 01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:44,040 Speaker 2: I like that. 1064 01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,600 Speaker 3: We're teasing the Steelers from plus one and a half 1065 01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:50,200 Speaker 3: to plus nine versus the love It the Browns. And 1066 01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:54,120 Speaker 3: then we're teasing the Detroit Lions from minus seven and 1067 01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:57,440 Speaker 3: a half to just pick them versus the Bears, and 1068 01:03:58,120 --> 01:03:59,400 Speaker 3: the Lion's I'm gonna lose that. 1069 01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:04,360 Speaker 2: Game, demonsay, this is an A plus teaser. I'm gonna 1070 01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,160 Speaker 2: show my confidence in you by betting a full unit 1071 01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,440 Speaker 2: of my own on it. You're gonna win this week? 1072 01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,920 Speaker 3: This week, I appreciate. I'm surprised you're not saying anything 1073 01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:14,080 Speaker 3: about the Detroit leg. 1074 01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:19,040 Speaker 2: No, you got it through all the key numbers. It's fine. Hey, 1075 01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:23,800 Speaker 2: the that now, I the the only argument would be, 1076 01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,720 Speaker 2: would you want to do a seven point teaser to 1077 01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:29,880 Speaker 2: get a little more value on your money? So get 1078 01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,960 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh plus eight and a half and Detroit from a 1079 01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,080 Speaker 2: pick them to plus half points the same thing. The 1080 01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,840 Speaker 2: problem there is then you don't get Dallas to the 1081 01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:42,240 Speaker 2: three at least now. Somehow Dallas only wins by three. 1082 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,560 Speaker 2: So I think it's the right numbers. I think it's 1083 01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:47,800 Speaker 2: an a triple plus. I think it's gonna win. Take 1084 01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,040 Speaker 2: quick break, answer some of your questions in the chat 1085 01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:56,520 Speaker 2: What's Right? All right? Welcome back in What's Try with 1086 01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:58,600 Speaker 2: thick Right? Episode one ninety four. This episode of What 1087 01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,640 Speaker 2: Trick is brought to you by the mcdonaldnald's app. I 1088 01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:04,640 Speaker 2: love the McDonald's app for McDelivery. 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Who doesn't like free food? So there's 1099 01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,479 Speaker 2: always a reason to order in the McDonald's app Donald 1100 01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,640 Speaker 2: McDonald's app today. At participating McDonald's delivery, prices may be 1101 01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,240 Speaker 2: higher than at restaurants delivery and other fees may apply. 1102 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:42,560 Speaker 2: Copyright twenty twenty three. McDonald's. All right, demonsey, we got 1103 01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:45,480 Speaker 2: to get out of here, so let's let's answer Matthew 1104 01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:47,040 Speaker 2: Flowers question and then get moving. 1105 01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,160 Speaker 3: Nick, right, what would happen in this game to make 1106 01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:52,240 Speaker 3: you lose confidence in the Chiefs short of injury to 1107 01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:53,280 Speaker 3: star players? 1108 01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,480 Speaker 2: Nothing, I look nothing, the. 1109 01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,880 Speaker 3: Maybe Mahomes on three picks against that bad secondary. 1110 01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:11,320 Speaker 2: No, folks, folks want me. Here's the thing. It'd be 1111 01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:15,040 Speaker 2: one thing if my Chiefs, if my level of confidence 1112 01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:20,440 Speaker 2: for the Chiefs was irrational, But people, and if you 1113 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,880 Speaker 2: wanted to call it irrational going into last season, when 1114 01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,640 Speaker 2: Mahomes had just played that terrible second half against the 1115 01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:30,320 Speaker 2: Bengals and the Chiefs traded Tyreek Hill, so be it. 1116 01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:30,880 Speaker 3: You could have. 1117 01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,520 Speaker 2: But when they're coming off winning a super Bowl, when 1118 01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:37,360 Speaker 2: Mahomes was playing on one leg, and when you're seeing 1119 01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:41,360 Speaker 2: the rest of the alleged contenders in the AFC. Self immolate. 1120 01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:45,439 Speaker 2: I don't know why you would believe that I would 1121 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:50,000 Speaker 2: have anything other than full complete confidence that this is 1122 01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,800 Speaker 2: the best team in football. All right, great job everybody. 1123 01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,400 Speaker 2: I gotta go, We gotta get to television. Have a 1124 01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,600 Speaker 2: wonderful weekend. We will talk to you guys at three 1125 01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:00,440 Speaker 2: o'clock today on first things first, what's right