1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Let's get back to Harold von der Linda from HSBC. Harold, 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: you were cut off there. I want you to continue 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: with your train of thought. Yeah, thanks a lot, we 4 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: get cut off. Yes, So what is important for the 5 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: Asian equity market is the outlook for inflation in the US. 6 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: And these are just signs people have always stopped. They 7 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: couldn't get their products, say six months ago, they needed 8 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: to make sure that they had stuck up in inventory. 9 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: Now demands maybe a little bit weaker than anticipated, and 10 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: they're cutting prices and that's yeah, that means that maybe 11 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: the inflationary story is is is a little bit on 12 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: his back lacks yet, So let's see how that impacts 13 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: over inflation numbers. But that is important for US in 14 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: Asia because lower inflation in lower bonds uts and lower 15 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: bund juts, that's good for Asian equities. Very quickly, Harold, 16 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: what does it tell us about the consumer twenty seconds? 17 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: What does it tell us about the consumer in twenty 18 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: seconds is that the outlook maybe for consumption demand is 19 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: not as strong as what we anticipate. And this is 20 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: important for Asians well because we help, of course a 21 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: whole bunch of exporters in the region, particularly in Korea 22 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: and Taiwan tech exporters, and yeah, maybe the outlook for 23 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: them is a little bit we we've already seen that, 24 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: which is in that particular secrecy earning being cut in 25 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 1: that monthly sales momentum that comes through in Taiwan being 26 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: quite weak guidance from company. And Harold, you did mention 27 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: when we were speaking earlier about opportunities in Asia. I know, 28 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: Asia Tech, you identify some very attractive pe ratios. At 29 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: the moment, are you adding to your positions then no, 30 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: not yet. The evaluations are low for that sector. Asia 31 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: Tech is down on something like third excent. But the 32 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: problem is to sell through. I mean, you guys just 33 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: spoke about Lamart the discounting products. Uh, the demands might 34 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: be weaker in for for that products, So that's going 35 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: to be a bit of an issue. So you're gonna 36 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: be highly selected in that sector, I think. And Brian 37 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: highlighted the fact that second quarter GDP and South Korea 38 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: much above forecast, nearly double what economists were expecting, a 39 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: gain of seven ns of one percent. It looks like 40 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: spending not only from households but the government as well, 41 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: helped to turn things around. I mean, do you have 42 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: any reaction to this? Yeah, I mean that's good for Korea. 43 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I think part of it is also post 44 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: co fee a little bit kind of a church from 45 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: his activity comes back most to post code in South Korea. 46 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: But for the bigger tech companies in in Korea, that 47 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: is not overly relevant, to be honest, because it takes 48 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: so most of the products in Europe and in the US, 49 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: So it's what happens in those markets that's that's sort 50 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: of really important to them. Yeah, we do talk a 51 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: lot about recession risk, mostly though pertaining to the US 52 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: and and knock on risks for the rest of the world. 53 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: But but what about that risk when viewed through the 54 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: Asia Pacific lens. You know, we we just didn't have 55 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: that decent GDP read out of South Korea. Are the 56 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: probabilities different for this part of the world. Yeah, I 57 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: think an age the inflation store is a bit different. 58 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: It's a bit more mixed, to be honest. We have, 59 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: on the one hand, probably deflation the precious and issues 60 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: in in China. No, you're not mecessarily deflation, but the inflation. 61 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: Inflation is basically not a big issue in in China 62 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,679 Speaker 1: because amount is weak and they're trying to actually move 63 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: it and getting a little bit getting people to buy 64 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: again and get confidence back again. Um. And then you 65 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: have important food inflation in markets such as India and 66 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: in Indonesia. The good news is that rice prices haven't 67 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 1: really increased that much and that some of the key 68 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: commodity prices are oil, copper, but also reach de prices 69 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: have come down, so that that helps the region a 70 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: little bit. But we still have to deal in particularly 71 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: that part of Asian institure with food inflation in the 72 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: second half of the year. Well, you mentioned energy. Their 73 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: crude oil prices today in New York were up quite 74 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: a bit where rose more than two percent and stale. 75 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: We're fluctuating very near hundred dollars of barrel and w 76 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: t I. At some point this is going to it. 77 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: It hasn't already began to buy it across many economies 78 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: in the APAC region. Yeah. Absolutely, And and the one 79 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: that is most stiff to this is India. There is 80 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: a large importer of oil and uh normally uh yeah, 81 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: if other prices are above eighty dollars or so, and 82 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: that it's well above it now. That's really a bit 83 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: of an issue for for India. So there's more slow 84 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: India to a certain extent. And yeah, that means also 85 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: you get that important inflation in in countries such as India. Um, 86 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: so that's that's gonna be a bit of an issue. 87 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: And we see already there that they want to typen 88 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: in the needs. You might have to do this as 89 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: well second half the year. That's more to related foot 90 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: not so much as oil. But yeah, that means that 91 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: in that part of Asia, the central banks might have 92 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: to typen. And that's probably on the margin not so 93 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: good for those equity markets there. So what assets around 94 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: the regional flashing a buy signal for you? Right now? 95 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: I think the buy signals are very clear. I think 96 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: in China, Um, it looks like things are turning slowly 97 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: around in China. There are certain sectors where the outlook 98 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: is starting to improve a little bit of the me 99 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: from a very low base. So UM, I think another 100 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: market people should be looking at this Thailand as as 101 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: the world opens up again. Um, Thailand is going to 102 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: be better as a tourist destination. Tourist numbers have dropped off, 103 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: like even if they come back a little bit, there's 104 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: going to be quite a good impact for for for 105 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: four Thai companies. So those are two markets I would 106 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: really take a look at all right, Harold Vanderlynd, head 107 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: of APEX Equity Strategy at HSBC, We will leave it there. 108 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us on Bloomberg at Daybreak 109 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: Asia