WEBVTT - NFL Draft Triple Take (Mock Draft), March 22, 2023

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everyone, and welcome to another edition of the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>Draft Triple Take, brought to you by UPMC. I'm Mike Pursuited,

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<v Speaker 1>joined by Dale Lally and Matt Williamson. We're here today

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<v Speaker 1>to update our initial mock draft Fellas. Some things have

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<v Speaker 1>happened since Mack won, So today we're here to bring

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<v Speaker 1>you mock two and we can beat a sound marrier twice. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot to get to before the draft in

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City in late April. But Matt, before we get

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<v Speaker 1>to the particulars, did you just make a tweak here

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<v Speaker 1>and there or major surgery? Major surgery? I mean we

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<v Speaker 1>had a big trade obviously, you know. I mean the

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<v Speaker 1>Panthers moved up to one. That kind of shakes things

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<v Speaker 1>around a little bit, and players stocks have changed. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean we've been talking about this a lot. Then. I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's ten to twelve players in this draft that

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<v Speaker 1>are pretty much sure fire first round picks, but then

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<v Speaker 1>the next forty could kind of go anywhere, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a cluster after that. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>really the thing with this draft. I think it's not

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<v Speaker 1>as top heavy as some other drafts. Usually you get

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen to twenty guys who would be a first round

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<v Speaker 1>pick every year. I don't know if this this draft

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<v Speaker 1>is quite that deep in terms of the top end talent,

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<v Speaker 1>but man, there's there's a lot of guys that could go.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it even goes maybe sixty guys that could

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<v Speaker 1>if they went in the first round. You go, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I get that. Yeah, yeah, and convers there's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of guys are getting a second and third round.

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<v Speaker 1>Any think, boy believe we're gonna hear a lot of that. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's get to it day. Let's start with your

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<v Speaker 1>top of the first round in your second mock here

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<v Speaker 1>and oh surprise, a quarterback going to Carolina number one.

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<v Speaker 1>What else did you find intriguing about this goal? Round

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<v Speaker 1>one through ten? Well, you know, I think Carolina trading

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<v Speaker 1>up the number one. I still think Bryce Young goes

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<v Speaker 1>to number one. He'll he'll throw today at his Alabama

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Day. But I bumped Anthony Richardson up with Bryce

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<v Speaker 1>Young off the board. I know CJ. Strott had a

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<v Speaker 1>great combine Richardson din as well. Houston's they're not in

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<v Speaker 1>it to win it this year. Necessarily. You can take

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<v Speaker 1>the time to develop that guy. And then I have

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Gonzalez at three to Arizona, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I think he ends up in Arizona. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that Arizona is going to be picking at three.

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<v Speaker 1>I still have Christian Gonzalez as my top cornerback in

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<v Speaker 1>this draft, but I think somebody's gonna trade up to

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<v Speaker 1>get Stroud, if if, if things would fall this way,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you got Jalen Carter going down to five,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's he's kind of now the guy that

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<v Speaker 1>you look at, where does he go? And of course

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<v Speaker 1>Jean Robinson at ten? Where does he go? Those are

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<v Speaker 1>two of the kind of the guys in this draft

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of swing everything wild cards X factors if

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<v Speaker 1>you will that. Let's take a look at your picks

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<v Speaker 1>one through ten. No surprise quarterback to Carolina or your

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<v Speaker 1>goal with the other guy. Yeah, I'm gonna disagree with

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<v Speaker 1>the a little bit. I think Stroud not that he's

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<v Speaker 1>separating himself, but I do think he's the favor to

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<v Speaker 1>go one, and I think he's the target for the Panthers.

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<v Speaker 1>Anderson at three again, that could definitely be a trade

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<v Speaker 1>out spot. There's no doubt about that. I mean, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the Raiders move up. I mean there's multiple teams that

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<v Speaker 1>could be interested in getting into three. I like the

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<v Speaker 1>fit with Richardson going to the Colts. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>you think about it, they're coming over from Philadelphia. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you could just put the Jalen Hurtz offense in

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<v Speaker 1>for Richardson. That makes all the sense in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Carter's the best football player in this draft,

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<v Speaker 1>and what a building block he'd be for Seattle, who

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<v Speaker 1>has two first round picks. So that makes a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of sense to me as well. And like Dale, I

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<v Speaker 1>also had Paris Johnson going to Chicago. I mean they

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<v Speaker 1>did a lot obviously in free agency, but one more

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<v Speaker 1>tackle would go a long way. Yeah, I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>made that unanimous. If we could throw my one through

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<v Speaker 1>ten up there, I've got Paris Johnson also going to

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<v Speaker 1>the Chicago Bears. I jagle Calrter going to the Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>Bears when the Bears were possession of the first overall pick,

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<v Speaker 1>but that shakes I like Strout among these quarterbacks. I

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<v Speaker 1>think if I had to pick a quarterback, I would

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<v Speaker 1>pick Anthony Richardson. But I think it's gonna take a

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<v Speaker 1>little time. Uh, he's gonna need a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>an adjustment period to the NFL. And unlike you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I watched enough Big ten football to know that Devin

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<v Speaker 1>Witherspoon is the best cornerback in this draft. And I

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<v Speaker 1>have him appropriately trying to have about him Mike, because

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<v Speaker 1>he hasn't been able to work out at all throughout

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<v Speaker 1>this process. It's a little uh annoying, let's say, or

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say concerning, because I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>that that big a deal. I believe he's got something

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<v Speaker 1>schedule on April the fifth, which is gonna be his

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<v Speaker 1>third shot to run for the evaluators didn't do it

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<v Speaker 1>at the Combine, didn't do it at the Illinois Pro Day.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of them sure thinks Tyree Wilson will Anderson in

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<v Speaker 1>this draft of boy, could be a lot of guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Those two gots, they're gonna go high. And I've got

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive tackle from Clemson going to Philly up Previously

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<v Speaker 1>I had b Jehan Robinson going there, but there's been

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<v Speaker 1>a little uh departure on that defensive line. So the

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles are gonna go with Matt say that name for

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<v Speaker 1>me one. Thus, Brian brus say, I've heard it many

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<v Speaker 1>different ways. I'll trust your judgment on that, man. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>stick with you and go uh picks eleven through twenty. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I kept Peter Scronsky going to Tennessee. Their Lyne pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much needs a little bit of everything, and so he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to fit in a tackle, he's gonna fit in

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<v Speaker 1>a guard and maybe even center. Who knows. Yeah, does

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<v Speaker 1>it all affect his value that we don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>he's a tackle or a guard ye? Or do we

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<v Speaker 1>just think he's going to be real good at either one.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he'll be adequate at tackle, but he could

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<v Speaker 1>be an elite guard. I mean, I bring up Zack

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<v Speaker 1>Martin a lot from the Cowboys coming out of Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 1>Very similar prospect, tremendous at what he did, but just

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<v Speaker 1>not prototypical traits for tackle. M Witherspoon I'm a big

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<v Speaker 1>fan as well. We just talked about him a minute ago.

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<v Speaker 1>But they took a corner last year and Stingley. That

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<v Speaker 1>could be a heck of a combination for a long

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<v Speaker 1>time there. Um. I still think the Patriots need a receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>I have him taking Addison. He's not my favorite receiver

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<v Speaker 1>in this draft, and my favorites to Jackson Smith and

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<v Speaker 1>the Jigba who goes to Green Bay. That would be

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<v Speaker 1>not what the Packers do. I mean pretty much, in

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<v Speaker 1>the last ten years, their only first round pick that's

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<v Speaker 1>been on offense has been Jordan's Love. So they might

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<v Speaker 1>have to buck that trend a little bit. Would be

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<v Speaker 1>somewhat ironic if they picked the wide receiver in the

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<v Speaker 1>first round this year without the day. Let's take a

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<v Speaker 1>look at your eleven through twenty. Yeah, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee taking Smith and Jigba. You know, I think they

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<v Speaker 1>could use everything, and I think he's the best player

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of a guy who scores touchdowns and that's

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<v Speaker 1>something that they need. They need to score more points.

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<v Speaker 1>Scronsky then goes at twelve again, is he at tackle?

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<v Speaker 1>Is the guard? Doesn't doesn't really matter because they need everything.

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<v Speaker 1>H you know, the Jets end go tackle, like Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>I have the Patriots taking a wide receiver, just a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger wide receiver. I think somebody outside the numbers would

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<v Speaker 1>help them there. Uh and then you look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I got Will Levis falling down to nineteen. Tampa

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<v Speaker 1>Bay buck in years again, I think that would be

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<v Speaker 1>an ideal situation for them. I don't know that their quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know they signed Baker Mayfield, but wouldn't you

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<v Speaker 1>like to have a young guy to absolutely kind of

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<v Speaker 1>kickstart that at this point? Yeah, I got a faller

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<v Speaker 1>as well, and my guy is unfortunately what there's two

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<v Speaker 1>of them. B Jean Robinson I have going nineteen to Tampa.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's certainly not the nineteenth best player available

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<v Speaker 1>in this draft, not even close. He might be in

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<v Speaker 1>the top five, top three, but it's running back, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm most certainly one of those top twelve players.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be a first round draft pick no matter

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<v Speaker 1>What's tough to find him at home, and just ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of him Richardson, I think Detroit has a short term

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<v Speaker 1>solution that's working right now and seems to be acquiring

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<v Speaker 1>enough of everything else that the Lions with their draft capital,

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<v Speaker 1>can afford to grab Richardson and red shirt him, so

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<v Speaker 1>to speak, and then move on eventually. I have Green

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<v Speaker 1>Bay taking Ryan Branch. I'm fascinated with Brian Branch. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>love him. I mean, I think he's a great football player.

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<v Speaker 1>He would fit him well there too. I think we

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<v Speaker 1>both are all three of us had brought with Jones

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<v Speaker 1>going to the Jets or at least two of us

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<v Speaker 1>and the wide receivers just no matter what you like.

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<v Speaker 1>I really like Jordan Addison. They could use them. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean they need some firepowers. Dale mentioned, I mean their

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<v Speaker 1>passing game was lacking last year as they leave, let's

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<v Speaker 1>wrap it up now by getting the bottom third of

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<v Speaker 1>our three mock drafts here, Dale, why don't you take

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<v Speaker 1>us from twenty one to the end. Yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 1>where things get a little crazy here, because again you

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<v Speaker 1>can look at these, these these last eleven picks here

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<v Speaker 1>and say, okay, there could be thirty guys that could

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<v Speaker 1>be in these picks, So, you know, looking at it,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Deante Banks to the Ravens just makes a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of sense. He's a Maryland guy. You know, they

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<v Speaker 1>keep him in State's. He's exactly what they want at cornerback,

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<v Speaker 1>a big, physical, you know, guy that can run. I

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<v Speaker 1>also have Cam Smith another cornerback. He's my number five

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<v Speaker 1>in the board. Brian Branch falls a little bit. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have the greatest combine, but then you watch his

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<v Speaker 1>tape and he just does everything well. Um, Joe Tipman

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<v Speaker 1>to the Cowboys is an interesting one. I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's my top center prospect in this draft. The guy

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<v Speaker 1>is massive. He could play him at guard. You could

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<v Speaker 1>play him at center, I have, and I think you

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<v Speaker 1>could even set him higher than the Minnesota guy I

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<v Speaker 1>do from the Big ten the Big ten, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think Tipman Tipman at six six could even kick out

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<v Speaker 1>to right tackle if he wanted them to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I just he got pigeonholed at center at Wisconsin because

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<v Speaker 1>it's Wisconsin and they've got seventeen you know guys that

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<v Speaker 1>he was really good at it. All that stuff the

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<v Speaker 1>Bills with with Zay Flowers, I think makes a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of sense. They could use some more help there at

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<v Speaker 1>the receiving position. And then you know, the Bengals get

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<v Speaker 1>Kaylee Ringo out of Georgia and again lost both of

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<v Speaker 1>their safeties in free agency. Is Ringo of safety? Is

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<v Speaker 1>he a corner? Doesn't matter? He just you just add

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<v Speaker 1>him to that secon And Darry, I want to ask

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<v Speaker 1>you about your first selection there in this in this

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<v Speaker 1>grouping Nolan Smith Edge Chargers, I'm starting to think of

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<v Speaker 1>him as an off the ball linebacker. Yeah, we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about a Yeah, we talked about that a lot. I

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<v Speaker 1>had to imagine itially and I'm I'm gonna put him

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<v Speaker 1>in the other group now, Yeah, I mean I think

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<v Speaker 1>you can look at him both ways. Um, he was

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<v Speaker 1>what two thirty five to thirty eight right now, you

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<v Speaker 1>got the combine, So he's on the edge of being

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<v Speaker 1>big enough as it were in the edge. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but he ran so well at the combine. It just

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<v Speaker 1>is a really uh, you know, a high caliber guy

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<v Speaker 1>in the locker room. You could do a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>different things with him, And I think if you're a team,

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<v Speaker 1>you could look at him the kind of as a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just a chip that you can move around

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Matt. Let's take a look at your

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<v Speaker 1>picks twenty one through thirty one. Uh, what I see,

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<v Speaker 1>You've got Darnell right to tackle from Tennessee. At the

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<v Speaker 1>start of this grouping Dale had him thirty one. I've

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<v Speaker 1>got him thirty one also spoiler, but yeah, I wasna.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Kansas City would love to get hold of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they look both their tackles and brought in one.

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<v Speaker 1>They might probably need to get another. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna work out for them. The way it did when

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<v Speaker 1>they got Clyde Edwards Hilaire, Okay, that's exactly what they needed.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how the Chargers pass on him, though,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty confident right does go in the first round.

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<v Speaker 1>Right tackle was a huge problem for them. Johnston might

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<v Speaker 1>be gone by twenty two, but I think he fits

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<v Speaker 1>the Ravens really well, and that he's a big bodied guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's very very good at blocking, willing blocker as much

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<v Speaker 1>as they run the ball, that should matter to them.

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<v Speaker 1>I have Branch going twenty five to the Giants, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he's gone before that. There's so many landing spots

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<v Speaker 1>he could end up because he is such a good

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<v Speaker 1>football player that you guys said Green Bay Jacksonville earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Giants play with more defensive backs on the

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<v Speaker 1>field than any team in the league, so he'll just

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<v Speaker 1>fit in somewhere. I mean, there's a ton of dime.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of seven defensive backsets with those. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the beauty of that guy. Right. They could play him

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<v Speaker 1>in the slot, you could play him a deep safety,

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<v Speaker 1>he could play in the box. There's just all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of things you can do with him. Yeah, and Frankly

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<v Speaker 1>I'm believably infatuated with this tight end class and I

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<v Speaker 1>have three going at the end of the round. There,

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<v Speaker 1>what if you could put Musgrave behind Kelsey for a

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<v Speaker 1>year or two to learn. I think that's phenomenal. And

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals lost the tight end this year, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Bills need another weapon as we talked about. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you on the tight end things interesting. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got Keyon White and Osiris Torrance in your bottom ten

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<v Speaker 1>of this group of thirty one. I've got him higher.

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<v Speaker 1>You've both got a first round. It's just a matter

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<v Speaker 1>aware and I think there's a kind of guys that

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<v Speaker 1>PERSONI fight just how speculative this is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>and how much it's going to depend on what specific

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<v Speaker 1>teams really like or need as opposed to the perception

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<v Speaker 1>of pecking order under scent. And I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>he gets the thirty or not when it's all said

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<v Speaker 1>and done. I mean, he's a plug and play guard.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you look at the Eagles offensive line, they've

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<v Speaker 1>always had a very small, super athletic center and why

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<v Speaker 1>they get away with that a little more than others

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Kelsey's phenomenal, but they have two huge guards.

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<v Speaker 1>Well this year they're gonna have to play with Cam

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<v Speaker 1>Jurgens is one of those guards who's really the Kelsey replacement.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think they'd love to get a big body

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<v Speaker 1>of Guarden for the future. Looking at my picks twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one through thirty one, h not totally dissimilar. I still

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<v Speaker 1>like Cody Mak going to Buffalo because he's just a

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<v Speaker 1>Buffalo type of guy. I mean, there might not be

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<v Speaker 1>fits an environment more. Yeah, yeah, I like Johnston going

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<v Speaker 1>to Baltimore as well Matt and then Banks to the Vikings.

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<v Speaker 1>Van ness intrigues me again. Big ten guy. Uh, probably

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have more production in college or in the pros

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<v Speaker 1>than he did in college, just circumstantially. Jamar Gibbs going

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<v Speaker 1>to the Cowboys at twenty six. The running back room

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<v Speaker 1>has changed there a little bit, and I like his

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<v Speaker 1>uh ability to contribute in the run game as well

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<v Speaker 1>as the past game. I think he's a good fit

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<v Speaker 1>for Dallas U and Darnel Washington going to the Eagles

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<v Speaker 1>at number thirty. He's one of my favorite players in

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<v Speaker 1>the draft, but I figured you can be another offensive

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<v Speaker 1>lineman for Philadelphia until he learns how to be a

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<v Speaker 1>pass catcher. They're okay with that because they're gonna run

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<v Speaker 1>the ball a little bit. Yeah, yeah, it's it's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you look at it some of some different

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<v Speaker 1>names in there, Like you know, Matt and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have much in the you know, our first round, but

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<v Speaker 1>I could see him going there. Uh. You mentioned Gibbs

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<v Speaker 1>is another guy that you know, he wasn't in our draft,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can see him going in the first round.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's such an interesting draft in that. Hyatt, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>is another guy that I don't think made it into

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<v Speaker 1>Matt and I's a first round both like him. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's just all about the fit. Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do it for MAC two. This is not the

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<v Speaker 1>last time we will be previewing what we think is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen on the first round, so you've got that

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<v Speaker 1>to look forward to. And in the meantime, we will

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<v Speaker 1>be doing our round two of the position previews as

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<v Speaker 1>we continue getting you ready for the NFL Draft in

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City in late April. Until next time, I want

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