Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to another edition of the NFL
Speaker 1: Draft Triple Take, brought to you by UPMC. I'm Mike Pursuited,
Speaker 1: joined by Dale Lally and Matt Williamson. We're here today
Speaker 1: to update our initial mock draft Fellas. Some things have
Speaker 1: happened since Mack won, So today we're here to bring
Speaker 1: you mock two and we can beat a sound marrier twice. Yes,
Speaker 1: there's a lot to get to before the draft in
Speaker 1: Kansas City in late April. But Matt, before we get
Speaker 1: to the particulars, did you just make a tweak here
Speaker 1: and there or major surgery? Major surgery? I mean we
Speaker 1: had a big trade obviously, you know. I mean the
Speaker 1: Panthers moved up to one. That kind of shakes things
Speaker 1: around a little bit, and players stocks have changed. I
Speaker 1: mean we've been talking about this a lot. Then. I
Speaker 1: think there's ten to twelve players in this draft that
Speaker 1: are pretty much sure fire first round picks, but then
Speaker 1: the next forty could kind of go anywhere, so it's
Speaker 1: a little bit of a cluster after that. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: really the thing with this draft. I think it's not
Speaker 1: as top heavy as some other drafts. Usually you get
Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty guys who would be a first round
Speaker 1: pick every year. I don't know if this this draft
Speaker 1: is quite that deep in terms of the top end talent,
Speaker 1: but man, there's there's a lot of guys that could go.
Speaker 1: I think it even goes maybe sixty guys that could
Speaker 1: if they went in the first round. You go, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: I get that. Yeah, yeah, and convers there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys are getting a second and third round.
Speaker 1: Any think, boy believe we're gonna hear a lot of that. Well,
Speaker 1: let's let's get to it day. Let's start with your
Speaker 1: top of the first round in your second mock here
Speaker 1: and oh surprise, a quarterback going to Carolina number one.
Speaker 1: What else did you find intriguing about this goal? Round
Speaker 1: one through ten? Well, you know, I think Carolina trading
Speaker 1: up the number one. I still think Bryce Young goes
Speaker 1: to number one. He'll he'll throw today at his Alabama
Speaker 1: Pro Day. But I bumped Anthony Richardson up with Bryce
Speaker 1: Young off the board. I know CJ. Strott had a
Speaker 1: great combine Richardson din as well. Houston's they're not in
Speaker 1: it to win it this year. Necessarily. You can take
Speaker 1: the time to develop that guy. And then I have
Speaker 1: Christian Gonzalez at three to Arizona, but I don't think
Speaker 1: I think he ends up in Arizona. But I don't
Speaker 1: think that Arizona is going to be picking at three.
Speaker 1: I still have Christian Gonzalez as my top cornerback in
Speaker 1: this draft, but I think somebody's gonna trade up to
Speaker 1: get Stroud, if if, if things would fall this way,
Speaker 1: and then you got Jalen Carter going down to five,
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's kind of now the guy that
Speaker 1: you look at, where does he go? And of course
Speaker 1: Jean Robinson at ten? Where does he go? Those are
Speaker 1: two of the kind of the guys in this draft
Speaker 1: to kind of swing everything wild cards X factors if
Speaker 1: you will that. Let's take a look at your picks
Speaker 1: one through ten. No surprise quarterback to Carolina or your
Speaker 1: goal with the other guy. Yeah, I'm gonna disagree with
Speaker 1: the a little bit. I think Stroud not that he's
Speaker 1: separating himself, but I do think he's the favor to
Speaker 1: go one, and I think he's the target for the Panthers.
Speaker 1: Anderson at three again, that could definitely be a trade
Speaker 1: out spot. There's no doubt about that. I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: the Raiders move up. I mean there's multiple teams that
Speaker 1: could be interested in getting into three. I like the
Speaker 1: fit with Richardson going to the Colts. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you think about it, they're coming over from Philadelphia. I
Speaker 1: mean you could just put the Jalen Hurtz offense in
Speaker 1: for Richardson. That makes all the sense in the world.
Speaker 1: I think Carter's the best football player in this draft,
Speaker 1: and what a building block he'd be for Seattle, who
Speaker 1: has two first round picks. So that makes a lot
Speaker 1: of sense to me as well. And like Dale, I
Speaker 1: also had Paris Johnson going to Chicago. I mean they
Speaker 1: did a lot obviously in free agency, but one more
Speaker 1: tackle would go a long way. Yeah, I kind of
Speaker 1: made that unanimous. If we could throw my one through
Speaker 1: ten up there, I've got Paris Johnson also going to
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. I jagle Calrter going to the Chicago
Speaker 1: Bears when the Bears were possession of the first overall pick,
Speaker 1: but that shakes I like Strout among these quarterbacks. I
Speaker 1: think if I had to pick a quarterback, I would
Speaker 1: pick Anthony Richardson. But I think it's gonna take a
Speaker 1: little time. Uh, he's gonna need a little bit of
Speaker 1: an adjustment period to the NFL. And unlike you guys,
Speaker 1: I watched enough Big ten football to know that Devin
Speaker 1: Witherspoon is the best cornerback in this draft. And I
Speaker 1: have him appropriately trying to have about him Mike, because
Speaker 1: he hasn't been able to work out at all throughout
Speaker 1: this process. It's a little uh annoying, let's say, or
Speaker 1: I don't want to say concerning, because I think it's
Speaker 1: that that big a deal. I believe he's got something
Speaker 1: schedule on April the fifth, which is gonna be his
Speaker 1: third shot to run for the evaluators didn't do it
Speaker 1: at the Combine, didn't do it at the Illinois Pro Day.
Speaker 1: Some of them sure thinks Tyree Wilson will Anderson in
Speaker 1: this draft of boy, could be a lot of guys.
Speaker 1: Those two gots, they're gonna go high. And I've got
Speaker 1: the defensive tackle from Clemson going to Philly up Previously
Speaker 1: I had b Jehan Robinson going there, but there's been
Speaker 1: a little uh departure on that defensive line. So the
Speaker 1: Eagles are gonna go with Matt say that name for
Speaker 1: me one. Thus, Brian brus say, I've heard it many
Speaker 1: different ways. I'll trust your judgment on that, man. Let's
Speaker 1: stick with you and go uh picks eleven through twenty. Okay,
Speaker 1: I kept Peter Scronsky going to Tennessee. Their Lyne pretty
Speaker 1: much needs a little bit of everything, and so he's
Speaker 1: going to fit in a tackle, he's gonna fit in
Speaker 1: a guard and maybe even center. Who knows. Yeah, does
Speaker 1: it all affect his value that we don't know if
Speaker 1: he's a tackle or a guard ye? Or do we
Speaker 1: just think he's going to be real good at either one.
Speaker 1: I think he'll be adequate at tackle, but he could
Speaker 1: be an elite guard. I mean, I bring up Zack
Speaker 1: Martin a lot from the Cowboys coming out of Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: Very similar prospect, tremendous at what he did, but just
Speaker 1: not prototypical traits for tackle. M Witherspoon I'm a big
Speaker 1: fan as well. We just talked about him a minute ago.
Speaker 1: But they took a corner last year and Stingley. That
Speaker 1: could be a heck of a combination for a long
Speaker 1: time there. Um. I still think the Patriots need a receiver.
Speaker 1: I have him taking Addison. He's not my favorite receiver
Speaker 1: in this draft, and my favorites to Jackson Smith and
Speaker 1: the Jigba who goes to Green Bay. That would be
Speaker 1: not what the Packers do. I mean pretty much, in
Speaker 1: the last ten years, their only first round pick that's
Speaker 1: been on offense has been Jordan's Love. So they might
Speaker 1: have to buck that trend a little bit. Would be
Speaker 1: somewhat ironic if they picked the wide receiver in the
Speaker 1: first round this year without the day. Let's take a
Speaker 1: look at your eleven through twenty. Yeah, I have a
Speaker 1: Tennessee taking Smith and Jigba. You know, I think they
Speaker 1: could use everything, and I think he's the best player
Speaker 1: in terms of a guy who scores touchdowns and that's
Speaker 1: something that they need. They need to score more points.
Speaker 1: Scronsky then goes at twelve again, is he at tackle?
Speaker 1: Is the guard? Doesn't doesn't really matter because they need everything.
Speaker 1: H you know, the Jets end go tackle, like Matt.
Speaker 1: I have the Patriots taking a wide receiver, just a
Speaker 1: bigger wide receiver. I think somebody outside the numbers would
Speaker 1: help them there. Uh and then you look at it.
Speaker 1: It's I got Will Levis falling down to nineteen. Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay buck in years again, I think that would be
Speaker 1: an ideal situation for them. I don't know that their quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: and I know they signed Baker Mayfield, but wouldn't you
Speaker 1: like to have a young guy to absolutely kind of
Speaker 1: kickstart that at this point? Yeah, I got a faller
Speaker 1: as well, and my guy is unfortunately what there's two
Speaker 1: of them. B Jean Robinson I have going nineteen to Tampa.
Speaker 1: I think he's certainly not the nineteenth best player available
Speaker 1: in this draft, not even close. He might be in
Speaker 1: the top five, top three, but it's running back, and
Speaker 1: you know, I'm most certainly one of those top twelve players.
Speaker 1: It would be a first round draft pick no matter
Speaker 1: What's tough to find him at home, and just ahead
Speaker 1: of him Richardson, I think Detroit has a short term
Speaker 1: solution that's working right now and seems to be acquiring
Speaker 1: enough of everything else that the Lions with their draft capital,
Speaker 1: can afford to grab Richardson and red shirt him, so
Speaker 1: to speak, and then move on eventually. I have Green
Speaker 1: Bay taking Ryan Branch. I'm fascinated with Brian Branch. Oh
Speaker 1: love him. I mean, I think he's a great football player.
Speaker 1: He would fit him well there too. I think we
Speaker 1: both are all three of us had brought with Jones
Speaker 1: going to the Jets or at least two of us
Speaker 1: and the wide receivers just no matter what you like.
Speaker 1: I really like Jordan Addison. They could use them. I
Speaker 1: mean they need some firepowers. Dale mentioned, I mean their
Speaker 1: passing game was lacking last year as they leave, let's
Speaker 1: wrap it up now by getting the bottom third of
Speaker 1: our three mock drafts here, Dale, why don't you take
Speaker 1: us from twenty one to the end. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: where things get a little crazy here, because again you
Speaker 1: can look at these, these these last eleven picks here
Speaker 1: and say, okay, there could be thirty guys that could
Speaker 1: be in these picks, So, you know, looking at it,
Speaker 1: I think Deante Banks to the Ravens just makes a
Speaker 1: ton of sense. He's a Maryland guy. You know, they
Speaker 1: keep him in State's. He's exactly what they want at cornerback,
Speaker 1: a big, physical, you know, guy that can run. I
Speaker 1: also have Cam Smith another cornerback. He's my number five
Speaker 1: in the board. Brian Branch falls a little bit. He
Speaker 1: didn't have the greatest combine, but then you watch his
Speaker 1: tape and he just does everything well. Um, Joe Tipman
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys is an interesting one. I think he's
Speaker 1: he's my top center prospect in this draft. The guy
Speaker 1: is massive. He could play him at guard. You could
Speaker 1: play him at center, I have, and I think you
Speaker 1: could even set him higher than the Minnesota guy I
Speaker 1: do from the Big ten the Big ten, but I
Speaker 1: think Tipman Tipman at six six could even kick out
Speaker 1: to right tackle if he wanted them to do that.
Speaker 1: I just he got pigeonholed at center at Wisconsin because
Speaker 1: it's Wisconsin and they've got seventeen you know guys that
Speaker 1: he was really good at it. All that stuff the
Speaker 1: Bills with with Zay Flowers, I think makes a lot
Speaker 1: of sense. They could use some more help there at
Speaker 1: the receiving position. And then you know, the Bengals get
Speaker 1: Kaylee Ringo out of Georgia and again lost both of
Speaker 1: their safeties in free agency. Is Ringo of safety? Is
Speaker 1: he a corner? Doesn't matter? He just you just add
Speaker 1: him to that secon And Darry, I want to ask
Speaker 1: you about your first selection there in this in this
Speaker 1: grouping Nolan Smith Edge Chargers, I'm starting to think of
Speaker 1: him as an off the ball linebacker. Yeah, we talked
Speaker 1: about a Yeah, we talked about that a lot. I
Speaker 1: had to imagine itially and I'm I'm gonna put him
Speaker 1: in the other group now, Yeah, I mean I think
Speaker 1: you can look at him both ways. Um, he was
Speaker 1: what two thirty five to thirty eight right now, you
Speaker 1: got the combine, So he's on the edge of being
Speaker 1: big enough as it were in the edge. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: but he ran so well at the combine. It just
Speaker 1: is a really uh, you know, a high caliber guy
Speaker 1: in the locker room. You could do a lot of
Speaker 1: different things with him, And I think if you're a team,
Speaker 1: you could look at him the kind of as a
Speaker 1: you know, just a chip that you can move around
Speaker 1: a little bit. Matt. Let's take a look at your
Speaker 1: picks twenty one through thirty one. Uh, what I see,
Speaker 1: You've got Darnell right to tackle from Tennessee. At the
Speaker 1: start of this grouping Dale had him thirty one. I've
Speaker 1: got him thirty one also spoiler, but yeah, I wasna.
Speaker 1: I mean, Kansas City would love to get hold of them.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they look both their tackles and brought in one.
Speaker 1: They might probably need to get another. I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna work out for them. The way it did when
Speaker 1: they got Clyde Edwards Hilaire, Okay, that's exactly what they needed.
Speaker 1: I don't know how the Chargers pass on him, though,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty confident right does go in the first round.
Speaker 1: Right tackle was a huge problem for them. Johnston might
Speaker 1: be gone by twenty two, but I think he fits
Speaker 1: the Ravens really well, and that he's a big bodied guy.
Speaker 1: He's very very good at blocking, willing blocker as much
Speaker 1: as they run the ball, that should matter to them.
Speaker 1: I have Branch going twenty five to the Giants, and
Speaker 1: maybe he's gone before that. There's so many landing spots
Speaker 1: he could end up because he is such a good
Speaker 1: football player that you guys said Green Bay Jacksonville earlier.
Speaker 1: But the Giants play with more defensive backs on the
Speaker 1: field than any team in the league, so he'll just
Speaker 1: fit in somewhere. I mean, there's a ton of dime.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of seven defensive backsets with those. That's
Speaker 1: the beauty of that guy. Right. They could play him
Speaker 1: in the slot, you could play him a deep safety,
Speaker 1: he could play in the box. There's just all kinds
Speaker 1: of things you can do with him. Yeah, and Frankly
Speaker 1: I'm believably infatuated with this tight end class and I
Speaker 1: have three going at the end of the round. There,
Speaker 1: what if you could put Musgrave behind Kelsey for a
Speaker 1: year or two to learn. I think that's phenomenal. And
Speaker 1: the Bengals lost the tight end this year, you know,
Speaker 1: and the Bills need another weapon as we talked about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm with you on the tight end things interesting. You've
Speaker 1: got Keyon White and Osiris Torrance in your bottom ten
Speaker 1: of this group of thirty one. I've got him higher.
Speaker 1: You've both got a first round. It's just a matter
Speaker 1: aware and I think there's a kind of guys that
Speaker 1: PERSONI fight just how speculative this is going to be
Speaker 1: and how much it's going to depend on what specific
Speaker 1: teams really like or need as opposed to the perception
Speaker 1: of pecking order under scent. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: he gets the thirty or not when it's all said
Speaker 1: and done. I mean, he's a plug and play guard.
Speaker 1: But if you look at the Eagles offensive line, they've
Speaker 1: always had a very small, super athletic center and why
Speaker 1: they get away with that a little more than others
Speaker 1: as well. Kelsey's phenomenal, but they have two huge guards.
Speaker 1: Well this year they're gonna have to play with Cam
Speaker 1: Jurgens is one of those guards who's really the Kelsey replacement.
Speaker 1: So I think they'd love to get a big body
Speaker 1: of Guarden for the future. Looking at my picks twenty
Speaker 1: one through thirty one, h not totally dissimilar. I still
Speaker 1: like Cody Mak going to Buffalo because he's just a
Speaker 1: Buffalo type of guy. I mean, there might not be
Speaker 1: fits an environment more. Yeah, yeah, I like Johnston going
Speaker 1: to Baltimore as well Matt and then Banks to the Vikings.
Speaker 1: Van ness intrigues me again. Big ten guy. Uh, probably
Speaker 1: we'll have more production in college or in the pros
Speaker 1: than he did in college, just circumstantially. Jamar Gibbs going
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys at twenty six. The running back room
Speaker 1: has changed there a little bit, and I like his
Speaker 1: uh ability to contribute in the run game as well
Speaker 1: as the past game. I think he's a good fit
Speaker 1: for Dallas U and Darnel Washington going to the Eagles
Speaker 1: at number thirty. He's one of my favorite players in
Speaker 1: the draft, but I figured you can be another offensive
Speaker 1: lineman for Philadelphia until he learns how to be a
Speaker 1: pass catcher. They're okay with that because they're gonna run
Speaker 1: the ball a little bit. Yeah, yeah, it's it's uh,
Speaker 1: you know, you look at it some of some different
Speaker 1: names in there, Like you know, Matt and I didn't
Speaker 1: have much in the you know, our first round, but
Speaker 1: I could see him going there. Uh. You mentioned Gibbs
Speaker 1: is another guy that you know, he wasn't in our draft,
Speaker 1: but you can see him going in the first round.
Speaker 1: It's it's such an interesting draft in that. Hyatt, I think,
Speaker 1: is another guy that I don't think made it into
Speaker 1: Matt and I's a first round both like him. But
Speaker 1: you know, it's just all about the fit. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: gonna do it for MAC two. This is not the
Speaker 1: last time we will be previewing what we think is
Speaker 1: gonna happen on the first round, so you've got that
Speaker 1: to look forward to. And in the meantime, we will
Speaker 1: be doing our round two of the position previews as
Speaker 1: we continue getting you ready for the NFL Draft in
Speaker 1: Kansas City in late April. Until next time, I want
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