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Speaker 1: the show there, Yo, why didn't anybody stop me? All right?

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Speaker 1: What am I doing? M lingual franca? We are waiting

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Speaker 1: on reparations. Welcome back another week? So where you got

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Speaker 1: going on this week? I've been good. We're slowly getting

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Speaker 1: born Robert Kolani said Tamu again. His music career in

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Speaker 1: being able to rock a mic. Really you know what

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Speaker 1: with the music, yeah, yoh, like you can. You can

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Speaker 1: he actually, while running for re election, Mussavini dipped his

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Speaker 1: rap track of his own entitled you want another Rap?

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Speaker 1: Let's let check that out real quick like a savan

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Speaker 1: Yes dictatorship bars. I was waiting for that one. It's

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Speaker 1: clearly catchy song that mixes an African tune in local

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Speaker 1: I think the lyrics of a song highlight must have

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Speaker 1: The song starts out with mussavinni, Um, you know what

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Speaker 1: April eight. Uh. There's going to be a screening of

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Speaker 1: the Asher Taylor is what is Democracy UM and holding

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Speaker 1: a panel with ASTRA as well as Jin Jerry uh

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Speaker 1: Komanica and holding a panel with Astra as well as

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Speaker 1: Jin Jerry uh Komanica, UM and some other community storytellers,

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Speaker 1: organize your students and educators um to speak about the

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Speaker 1: you know, like, what is democracy? What is the best

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Speaker 1: way for us to collectively decide thanks for our community?

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Speaker 1: If when you take it to this national scale people,

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Speaker 1: you know, their faith in the process becomes eroded, um bite,

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Speaker 1: either corruption or just by the lack of transparency in

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Speaker 1: the process. You know what. Just reaching the end of this,

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Speaker 1: I think I have reached my Eureka epiphany. I got

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Speaker 1: the end for that vaccination episode. Idea you wishould do

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Speaker 1: that ship next week? I think a Oh, can you

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Speaker 1: please drop one of those funky fresh hip hop instrumentals

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Speaker 1: that we may wrap it over. Oh, it's the music

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Speaker 1: discussion be where yeah yeah, he yo. They called me

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Speaker 1: dope because I smoke a bunch of marijuana. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: take it up from Athens to the ghettos that you

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Speaker 1: ganda Bobby Wanbi on his grind trying to do this

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Speaker 1: ship with Donna, and they'd be running campaigns dropping tunes

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Speaker 1: as a reminder. Now, I won't play it against six

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Speaker 1: stative events. When even the motherfucking dictated a spit. It's

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Speaker 1: only a power play in the way to persist That's

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Speaker 1: why the people on the street can't wait to resist.

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Speaker 1: I rap with a heavy heart that's got the mass

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Speaker 1: of the motherland with niggers that disagree, and they clash

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Speaker 1: for the government. They do in the revolution while doing

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Speaker 1: the running man. We need that restitution. I knew you

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Speaker 1: would understand. I'm gonna be quiet when they throw me

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Speaker 1: the rope. You can try to deny it, but you

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Speaker 1: know this, dope, I'll be sun and wrappers and sit

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Speaker 1: them down, teach them like a son. Just give me

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Speaker 1: my reparations, or I'll beat you like a drum Mom. Dope, dope, dope.

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Speaker 1: I'm dope knife, I'm le franca and we are waiting

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Speaker 1: on reparations. See you next week, see y'all Waiting on

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Speaker 1: Reparations as a production of I Heeart Radio. Listen to

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