WEBVTT - TOM's Talks | George Lynch

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<v Speaker 1>This podcast is part of the seventy Sixers podcast network

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<v Speaker 1>Search seventy Sixers podcast Wherever you get your pots, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>This is Tom mcginners. Over the course of twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>years of calling seventy Sixers games on the radio here

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<v Speaker 1>in Philadelphia, I've met hundreds of people. It's one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite things about the job. From courtside conversations to

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<v Speaker 1>filling time when the visit in a hotel lobby, getting

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<v Speaker 1>to know folks around the game of basketball has always

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<v Speaker 1>been a treat. On this episode of Tom's Talks, my

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<v Speaker 1>new weekly podcast, I talked with George Lynch. When former

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<v Speaker 1>seventy Sixers head coach Larry Brown came to Philadelphia, he

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<v Speaker 1>began to reshape the team's roster to players with a

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<v Speaker 1>defensive mindset to build a team around the offensive talents

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<v Speaker 1>of Allen Iverson. One of those players was George Lynch.

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<v Speaker 1>Lynch spent three seasons with the Sixers. I spoke with

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<v Speaker 1>him about his career. We hope you enjoy the conversation. George,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for doing this and it's great

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<v Speaker 1>to see you once again. One of our favorite Sixes

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<v Speaker 1>of all time. You've been in coaching since you left

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<v Speaker 1>the profession. You really put in a lot of different

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<v Speaker 1>effort in terms of your most recent stint there at

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<v Speaker 1>Clark University in Atlanta, the g League, and two stints

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<v Speaker 1>at Southern Methodists. But before we talk about coaching a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, let's go back into your background and the

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<v Speaker 1>pedigree of an NBA player. Sometimes I don't think fans realize,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the winning caliber and what some of you

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<v Speaker 1>guys went through. By way of example, in Virginia, you

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<v Speaker 1>were voted Mister Basketball in nineteen eighty nine. Your team

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<v Speaker 1>at Henry High School won the state championship. That must

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<v Speaker 1>have been something of proud accomplishment for you. Yes, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>growing up in a small town like Rono, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>playing AU we had like a small town to see.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Nowadays, you know, the teams are built over cities,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, connecting cities. You have private kids from twel

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<v Speaker 1>diferent cities. We had a team of fifteen guys from

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<v Speaker 1>one area. We were very successful in that kind of bread,

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<v Speaker 1>that competitiveness. You know, there was a lot of pride

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<v Speaker 1>being from Virginia and being able to compete at a

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<v Speaker 1>high level then playing high school whenever winning the state

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<v Speaker 1>Championship and then going on to North Carolina. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>each level had its own set of you know, challenges

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<v Speaker 1>and and it made me who I am today. It

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<v Speaker 1>gave me a lot of opportunities to see a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of good players. You know, in high school, I played

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<v Speaker 1>against the Lons of Morning, College, played against a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of great players in the ACC, and then being at

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina when guys came back like Michael Sam Perkins,

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<v Speaker 1>guys who were you know, had great years in the NBA,

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<v Speaker 1>and being able to play some of all with them,

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<v Speaker 1>it just gave you the confidence to continue put putting

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<v Speaker 1>the work in and honing my skills as a basketball player.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just watched the documentary on Coach Smith who

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<v Speaker 1>passed away in twenty fifteen, and you were a big

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<v Speaker 1>part of that and obviously the ninety three championship team.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we get into that, just playing at North

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina for Dean Smith, I mean, that's something that I

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<v Speaker 1>would imagine you cherish then and now. It must have

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<v Speaker 1>been incredible to play for a legend and somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>helped mold your life a little bit. Yeah, at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>you you you hear about him being a legend in

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<v Speaker 1>the Hall of Fame in his presence, you know, in practice,

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<v Speaker 1>his preparation, the things that he was teaching us as players.

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<v Speaker 1>It you didn't quite understand the opportunity that you had.

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<v Speaker 1>And then after you leave and you go on and

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<v Speaker 1>play professionally, and then now stop and then to to

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<v Speaker 1>really think about the things that how he changed the game,

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<v Speaker 1>what he's taught me. You know, that's why I got

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<v Speaker 1>into coaching, because I felt that, you know, I was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the few players I had opportunity to play

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<v Speaker 1>for a Hall of Fame coach, like like Dean Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be selfish not to share that with younger

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<v Speaker 1>players today. What the things that I learned on the

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<v Speaker 1>basketball court from him. You guys, win the national championship,

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<v Speaker 1>but you won the ACC championship, and that I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>especially back in the day, that in itself was a

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<v Speaker 1>tremendous achievement and you were obviously one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>valuable players. You still leave Carolina, if I'm not mistaken,

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<v Speaker 1>and steals you win the ninety three NC double a

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<v Speaker 1>championship in that famous game against Michigan. Walked me through

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of those experiences. It's funny, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the first of April. Every year those games come on.

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<v Speaker 1>They showed a five five time out in and I

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<v Speaker 1>tell people when I talked to him that we played

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan and Christmas. It was Christmas or Thanksgiving in Hawaii,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were having the same challenges getting the ball

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<v Speaker 1>and downs and down the balls. Coach Smith allowed me

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<v Speaker 1>to go run and jump whenever I felt comfortable doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>and Derek felt to who was the point guard at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. We talked, and I said, look, anytime Jayalen

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<v Speaker 1>takes it out, we're just gonna do a two man press.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Rubbert was not even my man. That's the that's

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing that people don't realize. So I told Montross,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, look, you just go back and protective rim

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll get back to Juwan Howard once the ball

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<v Speaker 1>comes across half court and you know, a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>plays before and then, uh, Jayalen took the ball out.

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<v Speaker 1>So I chose felps. I said, look, next time Jayleen

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<v Speaker 1>takes it out, we're just gonna track. They burned a

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<v Speaker 1>few time outs. When we go to the bench, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>Coach Smith tells us, you know, they don't have time outs,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's another story behind that. Uh, we go back

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<v Speaker 1>in the game and they didn't set up a press

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<v Speaker 1>press offense or you know normally most teams are how

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<v Speaker 1>the big and the primary ball him, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>uh bring the ball up. You know, Chris Webber always

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be a guard. He even in the pros

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to be a guard. But uh, it played

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<v Speaker 1>in our favor. He traveled and then he had an opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>He thought I was going to jump the passing lane,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he did in the ball up the sideline

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<v Speaker 1>and anytime in the Carolina system, we're trying to use

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<v Speaker 1>to defeat the sidelines as an extra dependent. So where

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<v Speaker 1>in the championship? What did I feel like? Oh? It

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<v Speaker 1>felt great, Uh, you know now more than ever back

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<v Speaker 1>then when when it happened, it was you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>go to Carolina and everyone's there expects you to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the final four and win the national championship. It

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<v Speaker 1>had been in years since Carolina had won the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was just I'm just glad I'm a part

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<v Speaker 1>of one of those many teams now since they have

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<v Speaker 1>six to say, I was on a team that won

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<v Speaker 1>one of those six championships. So with that, then you

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<v Speaker 1>move on. You're drafted in the first round, the twelfth overall,

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<v Speaker 1>picked by the Los Angeles Lakers, and you moved from

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia and Carolina to Los Angeles, California. What was that one?

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<v Speaker 1>That was? That was a lot to take there for

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<v Speaker 1>a young kid like myself from a small town, you know, planning,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, planning in the farm and in the Smith

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<v Speaker 1>cent it was similar, you know, planning you know, Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>and going to the Lakers and planning for a big

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<v Speaker 1>franchise that wasn't a big shot. But spending four years

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<v Speaker 1>in Chapterhill, living in a small town like Rodo, Virginia,

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<v Speaker 1>and then going out to LA and you know, La,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of temptations. There's a lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>going on in LA that you can get side tracked on.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, it was, you know, it was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to see and a lot to take in. Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the franchise was just rebuilding, and I got caught in

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<v Speaker 1>the part where they were rebuilding and we had some

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<v Speaker 1>tough years those three years that I was there. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you went to Vancouver when they were just starting.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't even been in an existence for a couple

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<v Speaker 1>three years. What was that like. Well, at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking forward to it because you know, my

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<v Speaker 1>minutes was spotty in la you know, I think my

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<v Speaker 1>first year didn't play at all in the regular season,

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<v Speaker 1>and then started in the playoffs, and then when I

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<v Speaker 1>had the opportunity to be traded. You know, anytime a

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<v Speaker 1>professional athlete was traded for the first time, you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of upset about it. But in the back of

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<v Speaker 1>my mind, I was kind of happy because it was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna give me an opportunity to play, you know, at

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<v Speaker 1>in Vancouver. I don't know if you remember, but the

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<v Speaker 1>games we had with the Grizzlies at GM Place Blue Edwards,

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<v Speaker 1>Big Country, they were always like a one point game.

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<v Speaker 1>We had some real exciting games out there. You have

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<v Speaker 1>any action, you know. We we had a good team.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just that we had some young players and

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<v Speaker 1>then it came down to just finishing games. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of our we were competitive, you know, we were prosed

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<v Speaker 1>just like everyone else. We just didn't have the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>our superstars or our so called franchise players were young

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<v Speaker 1>players coming in and they were just learning how to

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<v Speaker 1>play the game. I think when I got there, Big

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<v Speaker 1>Country probably had only played two years and then my

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<v Speaker 1>last year that Sharif was in his first year. I

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<v Speaker 1>do what he and they were trying to build a

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<v Speaker 1>franchise around younger players, and you know, you in order

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<v Speaker 1>to win, you have to have some veteran players and

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<v Speaker 1>superstars on the floor. So then Larry Brown at the

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<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia and you were certainly like the epitome of what

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<v Speaker 1>he liked to build around. Defensively, What was like that

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<v Speaker 1>your third team at early in your career to come

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<v Speaker 1>to Philadelphia, Well, it was, it was. It was. It's

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<v Speaker 1>funny because Coach Brown's daughter Ali and our good friends,

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<v Speaker 1>like my freshman year at Carolina, we we would always

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<v Speaker 1>talk and she was like, well, if you make it pro,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to play for my dad one day. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he might have been coaching in Denver or the

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<v Speaker 1>Indiana Pacers at the time, and and now he might

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<v Speaker 1>have been with the Clippers, so I can't remember, but

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<v Speaker 1>we used to talk about it all the time in class,

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<v Speaker 1>and that year doing the lockout, Coach Brown was in

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<v Speaker 1>chapter here and we just happened to sit beside of

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<v Speaker 1>each other. I don't know if he planned it or

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<v Speaker 1>we just was sitting inside each other watching pick up

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<v Speaker 1>and watching the college guys play, and I said, coach

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<v Speaker 1>saved us, save me us spot on your roster, and

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<v Speaker 1>it all worked out. I got a chance to come

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<v Speaker 1>to Philly, as you know, doing the lockout year, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>everything was great since people always ask me like, what's

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite time? And obviously with your group making it

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<v Speaker 1>to the finals, but those years leading up to it

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<v Speaker 1>might be the real answer, and that is when you're

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<v Speaker 1>on the rise, when and you were a real integral

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<v Speaker 1>part of that a team that you started to knock

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<v Speaker 1>off teams and take care of business. What was that

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<v Speaker 1>rise like in ninety nine two thousand and then obviously

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<v Speaker 1>my first year there, the Phillies fans were tough. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I was actually afraid to play my first game,

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<v Speaker 1>you know I was. I was sitting on the bench

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<v Speaker 1>and you could hear well. First of all, before I

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<v Speaker 1>got there, Philly had had three Carolina players that didn't

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<v Speaker 1>work out. So when I got there, I was like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and the Philly fans are a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people don't know in the streets, man, when you walking around,

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<v Speaker 1>they know you went to Carolina. They had some choice

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<v Speaker 1>words for you. And uh, but when I got in

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<v Speaker 1>my first game, All I wanted to do was just

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<v Speaker 1>play solid basketball and not make a mistake. Uh. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they were running Scott Williams out of town, Stackhouse and

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<v Speaker 1>Montrust had been there. All I wanted to do was

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<v Speaker 1>just fitted and and not make a mistake. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Then about two or three games in, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in the starting line up. Coach Brown makes the adjustment

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<v Speaker 1>and and then it was great from there. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, the way I played. The Philly fans

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<v Speaker 1>loved the way my work ethic and you know, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>played the game the right way, and the team was

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<v Speaker 1>on the rise. We were winning games. Uh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Pacers gave us a fit a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years in the road, but once we got over them,

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<v Speaker 1>we were on our way. You were one of those

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<v Speaker 1>designated defenders, and boy, that position to three four certainly

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<v Speaker 1>doing during those years, really at any time in the NBA,

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<v Speaker 1>those are some hard assignments, and even at six to

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<v Speaker 1>nine you might have been undersized in a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>those matchups. What was that like guarding some of the

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<v Speaker 1>best players in the NBA? You know, it was, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a great challenge, but when you see your

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<v Speaker 1>teammates like Eric Snow and McKee, uh, Theo, Mutumbo, Tyrone Hill.

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<v Speaker 1>No one was really you know, griping about the assignments

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<v Speaker 1>we had. It was just a team effort. We all

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<v Speaker 1>played within our strengths and weaknesses and then which allowed

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<v Speaker 1>Alan to be Album. We knew Album was going to take,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, majority of the shots, and so we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really have to. It's been needed too much energy on

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<v Speaker 1>that end, so we had a lot to give on

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive end. Now you're saying that Coach Brown knowing

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<v Speaker 1>that yourself and Eric Snow could take sometimes the brunt

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<v Speaker 1>of the criticism, and knowing that he was using that

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of get a message to the whole group

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<v Speaker 1>that yeah, some you know, some thick skin and that

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<v Speaker 1>literally is the definition of kind of taking one for

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<v Speaker 1>the team. What was that like and knowing that you

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<v Speaker 1>were getting yelled at sometimes maybe for mistakes or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>from others, but for the team, Yeah, it was it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't bad. Um. You know, at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>if it came, if it came with a win, it

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<v Speaker 1>was easy to take. And uh, you know, so being

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<v Speaker 1>yelled at, uh and Coach Brown calling your name out.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he rewarded us with minutes. Uh. So as

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<v Speaker 1>long as I was playing, you know, I was called

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<v Speaker 1>and yelled at worse. You know, growing up as a

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<v Speaker 1>kid on the basketball court playing with other guys, So

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta have some thick skin, uh, growing up in

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<v Speaker 1>the neighborhood I grew up in when that magical run

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<v Speaker 1>of the two thousand and two thousand and one season.

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<v Speaker 1>And the other thing that people forget is your guys.

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<v Speaker 1>You were forty six and fourteen at the All Star break,

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<v Speaker 1>but as it wound down and it got to the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 1>you got hurt and you were Eric had an injury

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<v Speaker 1>with a foot. There were a number of injuries and

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<v Speaker 1>that precluded you until the until the series shifted to Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was Game four where you finally got in.

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<v Speaker 1>So that must have been bitter sweet to see your

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<v Speaker 1>team reach the NBA Finals but not be able to

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<v Speaker 1>compete because of a broken foot, right, yeah, I had.

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<v Speaker 1>I was battling the stretch fractor throughout the year and

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was one of those things when you

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<v Speaker 1>trying to decide if you should sit down and and

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<v Speaker 1>let it heal or should you you know, play through

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<v Speaker 1>the pain. I was able to play through the pain

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<v Speaker 1>until that one play, you know, in to run when

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<v Speaker 1>I stepped through air Win's foot and the bone snap.

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<v Speaker 1>So but you know, I think if the surgery, if

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<v Speaker 1>we would have put a bigger screw in when I

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<v Speaker 1>had the surgery, I think I would have been able

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<v Speaker 1>to play in the finals. It was enough time to recover.

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<v Speaker 1>But a small screw was put in, I wasn't able

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<v Speaker 1>to play through it through the pain without hurting the team.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was just one of those decisions I had

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<v Speaker 1>to make, you know, where I didn't want to. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we had a healthy, healthier player sitting on the bench

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<v Speaker 1>to see if we get if we had a team.

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<v Speaker 1>You were talking about the team kind of being built

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<v Speaker 1>around Iverson and his athletic talent and his ability to

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<v Speaker 1>score the ball. So you saw these incredible scoring performances.

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<v Speaker 1>You saw him play through injuries athletically and as a

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<v Speaker 1>basketball player. What was it like to watch and be

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<v Speaker 1>a teammate of Irs. I was more measurement rise on

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<v Speaker 1>the things that he was able to do off the court.

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<v Speaker 1>One that we were you know, we played the Spurs

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<v Speaker 1>at the Dome and had the turf down, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to field, and we were walking off and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know who had a football, but we found

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<v Speaker 1>the football and we were out throwing passes. And they

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<v Speaker 1>always talked about him as a football player. Uh. He

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<v Speaker 1>really did have a lot of talent as far as

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<v Speaker 1>on the football field. And he probably could have played

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL if he wanted to, uh, if not

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<v Speaker 1>some big time college football. But and then he was

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<v Speaker 1>he was He was gifted at drawing, He could rap

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<v Speaker 1>as an artist. Uh, you know, just and he had

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<v Speaker 1>a big heart. Uh. You know, him as a teammate

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<v Speaker 1>off the off the field, off the court was more

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<v Speaker 1>impressive than you know, some of the other franchise so

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<v Speaker 1>called franchise players that I've been a part of teams on.

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<v Speaker 1>Because he did not want to miss a game. He

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<v Speaker 1>played in every game possible. Uh, any played one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've been on teams with other guys who were

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<v Speaker 1>nominated as a franchise players, and they didn't carry that

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<v Speaker 1>torch as well. More with George Lynch in a moment,

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<v Speaker 1>chat with George Lynch. Your career ends with stops in

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<v Speaker 1>New Orleans and Charlotte, the end of a twelve year career.

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<v Speaker 1>As I mention, what do you remember about those last

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<v Speaker 1>two or three years, you know, it was it was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of it was kind of fun, you know, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it was kind of looking forward to being It was

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<v Speaker 1>its exciting time when I got traded to Charlotte, thinking

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<v Speaker 1>that I was gonna be able to go back where

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<v Speaker 1>I played college basketball and played finished my NBA career.

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<v Speaker 1>But unfortunately they you know, they were just there for

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<v Speaker 1>one year, so playing in an empty arena. That was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of disappointing. But uh, you know, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>good group of guys. Um you know, wasn't as tight

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<v Speaker 1>knit as the fielding team. But we went to New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 1>New franchise he was planning in New Orleans was great.

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<v Speaker 1>The food was great there. The people welcomed us with

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<v Speaker 1>open arms. So it was it was, you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>was you know, I'd never been to Louis New Orleans

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<v Speaker 1>before and then except for the Final Court, and so

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<v Speaker 1>being able to spend time there and and and see

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<v Speaker 1>all the sites, I think it was a good experience.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the weather was great. So other than that, man,

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<v Speaker 1>it was, you know, it was a great twelve year run.

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed, enjoyed the experience, and I enjoyed it so well.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to get out of us, so I got into

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<v Speaker 1>college coaching. You did, and you really paid your views

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<v Speaker 1>to work with bat Doherty, another Carolina alum. First at

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<v Speaker 1>SMU the G League, You're at Caloraby and then let's

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<v Speaker 1>move forward to your rejoined forces with coach Larry Brown

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<v Speaker 1>and Southern Methodists there in Dallas. And what was that

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<v Speaker 1>like to be an assistant coach with your former head coach,

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<v Speaker 1>the legendary Larry Brown. It was great. Uh. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Coach Brown, although he's very demanding as a player, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean as a coach, he's he's very caring his players.

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<v Speaker 1>He cared a lot about his players. He was the

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<v Speaker 1>closest thing to Coach Smith. That that as a coach

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<v Speaker 1>that you know as far as kim about his players

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<v Speaker 1>and how he coached the games, his mindset, his preparation. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he was the closest thing to Dean Smith. And I

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of respect for Coach Smith. So claniform

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<v Speaker 1>Coach Brown and working with him was a was a

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<v Speaker 1>was was great, um and it meant so much that

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you know what, I deserve to share what

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<v Speaker 1>I've learned from Coach Brown and what I've learned from

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<v Speaker 1>Coach Smith with these younger guys here on the college level.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you like kind of that the good assistant as

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<v Speaker 1>we hear about like where you were the liaison explaining

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<v Speaker 1>to the young players what coach meant and not to

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<v Speaker 1>take it personally, that he breaks it down and he

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<v Speaker 1>wants it done his way and he's going to really

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<v Speaker 1>pay attention to the details. Where you kind of did

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<v Speaker 1>that for their players, Well, I did that and they

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<v Speaker 1>listened to me because I think they listened to me

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<v Speaker 1>because I played in the NBA. You know, has some

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<v Speaker 1>great kids. Sterling Brown, then more Sterling is with the

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<v Speaker 1>Milwaukee Bucks, Jimmy is with you know, the Boston Celtics,

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<v Speaker 1>and Shake Milton is actually playing with you guys in

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<v Speaker 1>the Philly and doing well. So those are my young

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<v Speaker 1>guys and uh we just I just tried to teach him.

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<v Speaker 1>They wanted to be pros. Uh they were gym rats.

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<v Speaker 1>They stayed in the gym, and uh, I was that

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<v Speaker 1>guy that would that would make the extra time to

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<v Speaker 1>be in the gym with him. What'd you see in

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<v Speaker 1>shake then? And what do you see now? Uh? Shay

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<v Speaker 1>could definitely score. And the more he played, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he had that that smooth I'm not gonna rush, You're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna speed me up. He had long arms, he

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<v Speaker 1>had a he had a vision that none of the

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<v Speaker 1>other guys. He would make passes. He were like, how

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<v Speaker 1>did you see that? And how did you get that

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<v Speaker 1>passed through there? So he showed the skill set in

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<v Speaker 1>the basketball IQ for high level NBA player and he

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<v Speaker 1>could score. I mean teams would just leave him open

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<v Speaker 1>because he didn't look like a basketball player. But he

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<v Speaker 1>would finish the game with twenty fifteen you know, his

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<v Speaker 1>first two years and played exceptionally well. Well, George, we

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate your time. We know you're kind of in the

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<v Speaker 1>midst here of looking for a new position. The coaching realm.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that something you would like to continue to pursue.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, definitely, Uh, definitely continue coaching whatever level it

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<v Speaker 1>comes it comes about. So we'll see, we'll see what

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<v Speaker 1>the future has in store for me. Tom, I got

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned one thing I started, the organization organization HBCU Heroes

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<v Speaker 1>dot Org is to help HBCU student athletes. Since this

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<v Speaker 1>distance learning, a lot of college students have been sent

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<v Speaker 1>home without the proper equipment to finish their education. And

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<v Speaker 1>we're trying to raise funds and come up with laptops

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<v Speaker 1>and learning devices for these student athletes. So anyone who's listening,

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<v Speaker 1>who has a great heart, this pandemic has put these

0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:53.359
<v Speaker 1>student athletes in the bond and go on and show

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<v Speaker 1>your support and how could we help? Like, what can

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<v Speaker 1>we do? How do you reach out in that regard?

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<v Speaker 1>Is on the website hp SeeU Heroes dot org. You

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<v Speaker 1>can go on, you can you can make a donation,

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<v Speaker 1>you can send in computers. You know, these students have

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<v Speaker 1>been you know a lot of these student athletes at

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<v Speaker 1>the D two level at HBCUs and h Division one

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<v Speaker 1>HBCUs our first generational student athletes, so without them getting

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<v Speaker 1>their education being able to get a decent job and

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<v Speaker 1>provide for their families. It wouldn't be possible if they

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<v Speaker 1>don't get their education. So we're hoping that they can

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<v Speaker 1>get the computers they need so they can finish their

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<v Speaker 1>eligibility and be eligible play next semester. So that's the

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<v Speaker 1>other thing that if they don't finish their own line courses,

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, I'm not for sure what the NCAA

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<v Speaker 1>as far as allowing them, we're giving them a pass.

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<v Speaker 1>Failed course. Well, we so much appreciate the time. Great

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<v Speaker 1>to see. I know we ran into you when we

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<v Speaker 1>were down in Atlanta earlier this season, and like I

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<v Speaker 1>said again, one of my great favorites of all times.

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<v Speaker 1>Good work, Thank you ORG. Great you see here all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Tom, Thanks for listening to Tom's talks with me

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