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Speaker 1: This is Tom mcginners. Over the course of twenty five
Speaker 1: years of calling seventy Sixers games on the radio here
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, I've met hundreds of people. It's one of
Speaker 1: my favorite things about the job. From courtside conversations to
Speaker 1: filling time when the visit in a hotel lobby, getting
Speaker 1: to know folks around the game of basketball has always
Speaker 1: been a treat. On this episode of Tom's Talks, my
Speaker 1: new weekly podcast, I talked with George Lynch. When former
Speaker 1: seventy Sixers head coach Larry Brown came to Philadelphia, he
Speaker 1: began to reshape the team's roster to players with a
Speaker 1: defensive mindset to build a team around the offensive talents
Speaker 1: of Allen Iverson. One of those players was George Lynch.
Speaker 1: Lynch spent three seasons with the Sixers. I spoke with
Speaker 1: him about his career. We hope you enjoy the conversation. George,
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for doing this and it's great
Speaker 1: to see you once again. One of our favorite Sixes
Speaker 1: of all time. You've been in coaching since you left
Speaker 1: the profession. You really put in a lot of different
Speaker 1: effort in terms of your most recent stint there at
Speaker 1: Clark University in Atlanta, the g League, and two stints
Speaker 1: at Southern Methodists. But before we talk about coaching a
Speaker 1: little bit, let's go back into your background and the
Speaker 1: pedigree of an NBA player. Sometimes I don't think fans realize,
Speaker 1: you know, the winning caliber and what some of you
Speaker 1: guys went through. By way of example, in Virginia, you
Speaker 1: were voted Mister Basketball in nineteen eighty nine. Your team
Speaker 1: at Henry High School won the state championship. That must
Speaker 1: have been something of proud accomplishment for you. Yes, you know,
Speaker 1: growing up in a small town like Rono, you know,
Speaker 1: playing AU we had like a small town to see.
Speaker 1: You know. Nowadays, you know, the teams are built over cities,
Speaker 1: you know, connecting cities. You have private kids from twel
Speaker 1: diferent cities. We had a team of fifteen guys from
Speaker 1: one area. We were very successful in that kind of bread,
Speaker 1: that competitiveness. You know, there was a lot of pride
Speaker 1: being from Virginia and being able to compete at a
Speaker 1: high level then playing high school whenever winning the state
Speaker 1: Championship and then going on to North Carolina. You know,
Speaker 1: each level had its own set of you know, challenges
Speaker 1: and and it made me who I am today. It
Speaker 1: gave me a lot of opportunities to see a lot
Speaker 1: of good players. You know, in high school, I played
Speaker 1: against the Lons of Morning, College, played against a lot
Speaker 1: of great players in the ACC, and then being at
Speaker 1: North Carolina when guys came back like Michael Sam Perkins,
Speaker 1: guys who were you know, had great years in the NBA,
Speaker 1: and being able to play some of all with them,
Speaker 1: it just gave you the confidence to continue put putting
Speaker 1: the work in and honing my skills as a basketball player.
Speaker 1: So I just watched the documentary on Coach Smith who
Speaker 1: passed away in twenty fifteen, and you were a big
Speaker 1: part of that and obviously the ninety three championship team.
Speaker 1: But before we get into that, just playing at North
Speaker 1: Carolina for Dean Smith, I mean, that's something that I
Speaker 1: would imagine you cherish then and now. It must have
Speaker 1: been incredible to play for a legend and somebody that
Speaker 1: helped mold your life a little bit. Yeah, at the time,
Speaker 1: you you you hear about him being a legend in
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame in his presence, you know, in practice,
Speaker 1: his preparation, the things that he was teaching us as players.
Speaker 1: It you didn't quite understand the opportunity that you had.
Speaker 1: And then after you leave and you go on and
Speaker 1: play professionally, and then now stop and then to to
Speaker 1: really think about the things that how he changed the game,
Speaker 1: what he's taught me. You know, that's why I got
Speaker 1: into coaching, because I felt that, you know, I was
Speaker 1: one of the few players I had opportunity to play
Speaker 1: for a Hall of Fame coach, like like Dean Smith.
Speaker 1: It would be selfish not to share that with younger
Speaker 1: players today. What the things that I learned on the
Speaker 1: basketball court from him. You guys, win the national championship,
Speaker 1: but you won the ACC championship, and that I mean,
Speaker 1: especially back in the day, that in itself was a
Speaker 1: tremendous achievement and you were obviously one of the most
Speaker 1: valuable players. You still leave Carolina, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: and steals you win the ninety three NC double a
Speaker 1: championship in that famous game against Michigan. Walked me through
Speaker 1: a little bit of those experiences. It's funny, you know,
Speaker 1: the first of April. Every year those games come on.
Speaker 1: They showed a five five time out in and I
Speaker 1: tell people when I talked to him that we played
Speaker 1: Michigan and Christmas. It was Christmas or Thanksgiving in Hawaii,
Speaker 1: and they were having the same challenges getting the ball
Speaker 1: and downs and down the balls. Coach Smith allowed me
Speaker 1: to go run and jump whenever I felt comfortable doing it,
Speaker 1: and Derek felt to who was the point guard at
Speaker 1: the time. We talked, and I said, look, anytime Jayalen
Speaker 1: takes it out, we're just gonna do a two man press.
Speaker 1: Chris Rubbert was not even my man. That's the that's
Speaker 1: the other thing that people don't realize. So I told Montross,
Speaker 1: I said, look, you just go back and protective rim
Speaker 1: and I'll get back to Juwan Howard once the ball
Speaker 1: comes across half court and you know, a couple of
Speaker 1: plays before and then, uh, Jayalen took the ball out.
Speaker 1: So I chose felps. I said, look, next time Jayleen
Speaker 1: takes it out, we're just gonna track. They burned a
Speaker 1: few time outs. When we go to the bench, I'll
Speaker 1: Coach Smith tells us, you know, they don't have time outs,
Speaker 1: and there's another story behind that. Uh, we go back
Speaker 1: in the game and they didn't set up a press
Speaker 1: press offense or you know normally most teams are how
Speaker 1: the big and the primary ball him, you know, and
Speaker 1: uh bring the ball up. You know, Chris Webber always
Speaker 1: wanted to be a guard. He even in the pros
Speaker 1: he wanted to be a guard. But uh, it played
Speaker 1: in our favor. He traveled and then he had an opportunity.
Speaker 1: He thought I was going to jump the passing lane,
Speaker 1: and then he did in the ball up the sideline
Speaker 1: and anytime in the Carolina system, we're trying to use
Speaker 1: to defeat the sidelines as an extra dependent. So where
Speaker 1: in the championship? What did I feel like? Oh? It
Speaker 1: felt great, Uh, you know now more than ever back
Speaker 1: then when when it happened, it was you know, you
Speaker 1: go to Carolina and everyone's there expects you to go
Speaker 1: to the final four and win the national championship. It
Speaker 1: had been in years since Carolina had won the whole thing.
Speaker 1: And I was just I'm just glad I'm a part
Speaker 1: of one of those many teams now since they have
Speaker 1: six to say, I was on a team that won
Speaker 1: one of those six championships. So with that, then you
Speaker 1: move on. You're drafted in the first round, the twelfth overall,
Speaker 1: picked by the Los Angeles Lakers, and you moved from
Speaker 1: Virginia and Carolina to Los Angeles, California. What was that one?
Speaker 1: That was? That was a lot to take there for
Speaker 1: a young kid like myself from a small town, you know, planning,
Speaker 1: you know, planning in the farm and in the Smith
Speaker 1: cent it was similar, you know, planning you know, Carolina
Speaker 1: and going to the Lakers and planning for a big
Speaker 1: franchise that wasn't a big shot. But spending four years
Speaker 1: in Chapterhill, living in a small town like Rodo, Virginia,
Speaker 1: and then going out to LA and you know, La,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of temptations. There's a lot of things
Speaker 1: going on in LA that you can get side tracked on.
Speaker 1: But uh, it was, you know, it was a lot
Speaker 1: to see and a lot to take in. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the franchise was just rebuilding, and I got caught in
Speaker 1: the part where they were rebuilding and we had some
Speaker 1: tough years those three years that I was there. And
Speaker 1: then you went to Vancouver when they were just starting.
Speaker 1: They don't even been in an existence for a couple
Speaker 1: three years. What was that like. Well, at the time,
Speaker 1: I was looking forward to it because you know, my
Speaker 1: minutes was spotty in la you know, I think my
Speaker 1: first year didn't play at all in the regular season,
Speaker 1: and then started in the playoffs, and then when I
Speaker 1: had the opportunity to be traded. You know, anytime a
Speaker 1: professional athlete was traded for the first time, you're you're
Speaker 1: kind of upset about it. But in the back of
Speaker 1: my mind, I was kind of happy because it was
Speaker 1: gonna give me an opportunity to play, you know, at
Speaker 1: in Vancouver. I don't know if you remember, but the
Speaker 1: games we had with the Grizzlies at GM Place Blue Edwards,
Speaker 1: Big Country, they were always like a one point game.
Speaker 1: We had some real exciting games out there. You have
Speaker 1: any action, you know. We we had a good team.
Speaker 1: It was just that we had some young players and
Speaker 1: then it came down to just finishing games. A lot
Speaker 1: of our we were competitive, you know, we were prosed
Speaker 1: just like everyone else. We just didn't have the you know,
Speaker 1: our superstars or our so called franchise players were young
Speaker 1: players coming in and they were just learning how to
Speaker 1: play the game. I think when I got there, Big
Speaker 1: Country probably had only played two years and then my
Speaker 1: last year that Sharif was in his first year. I
Speaker 1: do what he and they were trying to build a
Speaker 1: franchise around younger players, and you know, you in order
Speaker 1: to win, you have to have some veteran players and
Speaker 1: superstars on the floor. So then Larry Brown at the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia and you were certainly like the epitome of what
Speaker 1: he liked to build around. Defensively, What was like that
Speaker 1: your third team at early in your career to come
Speaker 1: to Philadelphia, Well, it was, it was. It was. It's
Speaker 1: funny because Coach Brown's daughter Ali and our good friends,
Speaker 1: like my freshman year at Carolina, we we would always
Speaker 1: talk and she was like, well, if you make it pro,
Speaker 1: you need to play for my dad one day. I
Speaker 1: think he might have been coaching in Denver or the
Speaker 1: Indiana Pacers at the time, and and now he might
Speaker 1: have been with the Clippers, so I can't remember, but
Speaker 1: we used to talk about it all the time in class,
Speaker 1: and that year doing the lockout, Coach Brown was in
Speaker 1: chapter here and we just happened to sit beside of
Speaker 1: each other. I don't know if he planned it or
Speaker 1: we just was sitting inside each other watching pick up
Speaker 1: and watching the college guys play, and I said, coach
Speaker 1: saved us, save me us spot on your roster, and
Speaker 1: it all worked out. I got a chance to come
Speaker 1: to Philly, as you know, doing the lockout year, and uh,
Speaker 1: everything was great since people always ask me like, what's
Speaker 1: your favorite time? And obviously with your group making it
Speaker 1: to the finals, but those years leading up to it
Speaker 1: might be the real answer, and that is when you're
Speaker 1: on the rise, when and you were a real integral
Speaker 1: part of that a team that you started to knock
Speaker 1: off teams and take care of business. What was that
Speaker 1: rise like in ninety nine two thousand and then obviously
Speaker 1: my first year there, the Phillies fans were tough. Uh
Speaker 1: you know, I was actually afraid to play my first game,
Speaker 1: you know I was. I was sitting on the bench
Speaker 1: and you could hear well. First of all, before I
Speaker 1: got there, Philly had had three Carolina players that didn't
Speaker 1: work out. So when I got there, I was like, look,
Speaker 1: you know, and the Philly fans are a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't know in the streets, man, when you walking around,
Speaker 1: they know you went to Carolina. They had some choice
Speaker 1: words for you. And uh, but when I got in
Speaker 1: my first game, All I wanted to do was just
Speaker 1: play solid basketball and not make a mistake. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: they were running Scott Williams out of town, Stackhouse and
Speaker 1: Montrust had been there. All I wanted to do was
Speaker 1: just fitted and and not make a mistake. You know.
Speaker 1: Then about two or three games in, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: in the starting line up. Coach Brown makes the adjustment
Speaker 1: and and then it was great from there. I think,
Speaker 1: I you know, the way I played. The Philly fans
Speaker 1: loved the way my work ethic and you know, I'll
Speaker 1: played the game the right way, and the team was
Speaker 1: on the rise. We were winning games. Uh you know,
Speaker 1: I think the Pacers gave us a fit a couple
Speaker 1: of years in the road, but once we got over them,
Speaker 1: we were on our way. You were one of those
Speaker 1: designated defenders, and boy, that position to three four certainly
Speaker 1: doing during those years, really at any time in the NBA,
Speaker 1: those are some hard assignments, and even at six to
Speaker 1: nine you might have been undersized in a lot of
Speaker 1: those matchups. What was that like guarding some of the
Speaker 1: best players in the NBA? You know, it was, it was.
Speaker 1: It was a great challenge, but when you see your
Speaker 1: teammates like Eric Snow and McKee, uh, Theo, Mutumbo, Tyrone Hill.
Speaker 1: No one was really you know, griping about the assignments
Speaker 1: we had. It was just a team effort. We all
Speaker 1: played within our strengths and weaknesses and then which allowed
Speaker 1: Alan to be Album. We knew Album was going to take,
Speaker 1: you know, majority of the shots, and so we didn't
Speaker 1: really have to. It's been needed too much energy on
Speaker 1: that end, so we had a lot to give on
Speaker 1: the defensive end. Now you're saying that Coach Brown knowing
Speaker 1: that yourself and Eric Snow could take sometimes the brunt
Speaker 1: of the criticism, and knowing that he was using that
Speaker 1: to kind of get a message to the whole group
Speaker 1: that yeah, some you know, some thick skin and that
Speaker 1: literally is the definition of kind of taking one for
Speaker 1: the team. What was that like and knowing that you
Speaker 1: were getting yelled at sometimes maybe for mistakes or whatever
Speaker 1: from others, but for the team, Yeah, it was it
Speaker 1: wasn't bad. Um. You know, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: if it came, if it came with a win, it
Speaker 1: was easy to take. And uh, you know, so being
Speaker 1: yelled at, uh and Coach Brown calling your name out.
Speaker 1: You know, he rewarded us with minutes. Uh. So as
Speaker 1: long as I was playing, you know, I was called
Speaker 1: and yelled at worse. You know, growing up as a
Speaker 1: kid on the basketball court playing with other guys, So
Speaker 1: you gotta have some thick skin, uh, growing up in
Speaker 1: the neighborhood I grew up in when that magical run
Speaker 1: of the two thousand and two thousand and one season.
Speaker 1: And the other thing that people forget is your guys.
Speaker 1: You were forty six and fourteen at the All Star break,
Speaker 1: but as it wound down and it got to the playoffs,
Speaker 1: you got hurt and you were Eric had an injury
Speaker 1: with a foot. There were a number of injuries and
Speaker 1: that precluded you until the until the series shifted to Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: I think it was Game four where you finally got in.
Speaker 1: So that must have been bitter sweet to see your
Speaker 1: team reach the NBA Finals but not be able to
Speaker 1: compete because of a broken foot, right, yeah, I had.
Speaker 1: I was battling the stretch fractor throughout the year and
Speaker 1: it was it was one of those things when you
Speaker 1: trying to decide if you should sit down and and
Speaker 1: let it heal or should you you know, play through
Speaker 1: the pain. I was able to play through the pain
Speaker 1: until that one play, you know, in to run when
Speaker 1: I stepped through air Win's foot and the bone snap.
Speaker 1: So but you know, I think if the surgery, if
Speaker 1: we would have put a bigger screw in when I
Speaker 1: had the surgery, I think I would have been able
Speaker 1: to play in the finals. It was enough time to recover.
Speaker 1: But a small screw was put in, I wasn't able
Speaker 1: to play through it through the pain without hurting the team.
Speaker 1: So that was just one of those decisions I had
Speaker 1: to make, you know, where I didn't want to. You know,
Speaker 1: we had a healthy, healthier player sitting on the bench
Speaker 1: to see if we get if we had a team.
Speaker 1: You were talking about the team kind of being built
Speaker 1: around Iverson and his athletic talent and his ability to
Speaker 1: score the ball. So you saw these incredible scoring performances.
Speaker 1: You saw him play through injuries athletically and as a
Speaker 1: basketball player. What was it like to watch and be
Speaker 1: a teammate of Irs. I was more measurement rise on
Speaker 1: the things that he was able to do off the court.
Speaker 1: One that we were you know, we played the Spurs
Speaker 1: at the Dome and had the turf down, I don't
Speaker 1: have to field, and we were walking off and uh,
Speaker 1: I don't know who had a football, but we found
Speaker 1: the football and we were out throwing passes. And they
Speaker 1: always talked about him as a football player. Uh. He
Speaker 1: really did have a lot of talent as far as
Speaker 1: on the football field. And he probably could have played
Speaker 1: in the NFL if he wanted to, uh, if not
Speaker 1: some big time college football. But and then he was
Speaker 1: he was He was gifted at drawing, He could rap
Speaker 1: as an artist. Uh, you know, just and he had
Speaker 1: a big heart. Uh. You know, him as a teammate
Speaker 1: off the off the field, off the court was more
Speaker 1: impressive than you know, some of the other franchise so
Speaker 1: called franchise players that I've been a part of teams on.
Speaker 1: Because he did not want to miss a game. He
Speaker 1: played in every game possible. Uh, any played one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: And I've been on teams with other guys who were
Speaker 1: nominated as a franchise players, and they didn't carry that
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Speaker 1: chat with George Lynch. Your career ends with stops in
Speaker 1: New Orleans and Charlotte, the end of a twelve year career.
Speaker 1: As I mention, what do you remember about those last
Speaker 1: two or three years, you know, it was it was
Speaker 1: kind of it was kind of fun, you know, well,
Speaker 1: it was kind of looking forward to being It was
Speaker 1: its exciting time when I got traded to Charlotte, thinking
Speaker 1: that I was gonna be able to go back where
Speaker 1: I played college basketball and played finished my NBA career.
Speaker 1: But unfortunately they you know, they were just there for
Speaker 1: one year, so playing in an empty arena. That was
Speaker 1: kind of disappointing. But uh, you know, it was a
Speaker 1: good group of guys. Um you know, wasn't as tight
Speaker 1: knit as the fielding team. But we went to New Orleans.
Speaker 1: New franchise he was planning in New Orleans was great.
Speaker 1: The food was great there. The people welcomed us with
Speaker 1: open arms. So it was it was, you know, it
Speaker 1: was you know, I'd never been to Louis New Orleans
Speaker 1: before and then except for the Final Court, and so
Speaker 1: being able to spend time there and and and see
Speaker 1: all the sites, I think it was a good experience.
Speaker 1: But in the weather was great. So other than that, man,
Speaker 1: it was, you know, it was a great twelve year run.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed, enjoyed the experience, and I enjoyed it so well.
Speaker 1: Want to get out of us, so I got into
Speaker 1: college coaching. You did, and you really paid your views
Speaker 1: to work with bat Doherty, another Carolina alum. First at
Speaker 1: SMU the G League, You're at Caloraby and then let's
Speaker 1: move forward to your rejoined forces with coach Larry Brown
Speaker 1: and Southern Methodists there in Dallas. And what was that
Speaker 1: like to be an assistant coach with your former head coach,
Speaker 1: the legendary Larry Brown. It was great. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: Coach Brown, although he's very demanding as a player, I
Speaker 1: mean as a coach, he's he's very caring his players.
Speaker 1: He cared a lot about his players. He was the
Speaker 1: closest thing to Coach Smith. That that as a coach
Speaker 1: that you know as far as kim about his players
Speaker 1: and how he coached the games, his mindset, his preparation. Uh,
Speaker 1: he was the closest thing to Dean Smith. And I
Speaker 1: had a lot of respect for Coach Smith. So claniform
Speaker 1: Coach Brown and working with him was a was a
Speaker 1: was was great, um and it meant so much that
Speaker 1: I said, you know what, I deserve to share what
Speaker 1: I've learned from Coach Brown and what I've learned from
Speaker 1: Coach Smith with these younger guys here on the college level.
Speaker 1: Were you like kind of that the good assistant as
Speaker 1: we hear about like where you were the liaison explaining
Speaker 1: to the young players what coach meant and not to
Speaker 1: take it personally, that he breaks it down and he
Speaker 1: wants it done his way and he's going to really
Speaker 1: pay attention to the details. Where you kind of did
Speaker 1: that for their players, Well, I did that and they
Speaker 1: listened to me because I think they listened to me
Speaker 1: because I played in the NBA. You know, has some
Speaker 1: great kids. Sterling Brown, then more Sterling is with the
Speaker 1: Milwaukee Bucks, Jimmy is with you know, the Boston Celtics,
Speaker 1: and Shake Milton is actually playing with you guys in
Speaker 1: the Philly and doing well. So those are my young
Speaker 1: guys and uh we just I just tried to teach him.
Speaker 1: They wanted to be pros. Uh they were gym rats.
Speaker 1: They stayed in the gym, and uh, I was that
Speaker 1: guy that would that would make the extra time to
Speaker 1: be in the gym with him. What'd you see in
Speaker 1: shake then? And what do you see now? Uh? Shay
Speaker 1: could definitely score. And the more he played, you know,
Speaker 1: he had that that smooth I'm not gonna rush, You're
Speaker 1: not gonna speed me up. He had long arms, he
Speaker 1: had a he had a vision that none of the
Speaker 1: other guys. He would make passes. He were like, how
Speaker 1: did you see that? And how did you get that
Speaker 1: passed through there? So he showed the skill set in
Speaker 1: the basketball IQ for high level NBA player and he
Speaker 1: could score. I mean teams would just leave him open
Speaker 1: because he didn't look like a basketball player. But he
Speaker 1: would finish the game with twenty fifteen you know, his
Speaker 1: first two years and played exceptionally well. Well, George, we
Speaker 1: appreciate your time. We know you're kind of in the
Speaker 1: midst here of looking for a new position. The coaching realm.
Speaker 1: Is that something you would like to continue to pursue.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, definitely, Uh, definitely continue coaching whatever level it
Speaker 1: comes it comes about. So we'll see, we'll see what
Speaker 1: the future has in store for me. Tom, I got
Speaker 1: mentioned one thing I started, the organization organization HBCU Heroes
Speaker 1: dot Org is to help HBCU student athletes. Since this
Speaker 1: distance learning, a lot of college students have been sent
Speaker 1: home without the proper equipment to finish their education. And
Speaker 1: we're trying to raise funds and come up with laptops
Speaker 1: and learning devices for these student athletes. So anyone who's listening,
Speaker 1: who has a great heart, this pandemic has put these
Speaker 1: student athletes in the bond and go on and show
Speaker 1: your support and how could we help? Like, what can
Speaker 1: we do? How do you reach out in that regard?
Speaker 1: Is on the website hp SeeU Heroes dot org. You
Speaker 1: can go on, you can you can make a donation,
Speaker 1: you can send in computers. You know, these students have
Speaker 1: been you know a lot of these student athletes at
Speaker 1: the D two level at HBCUs and h Division one
Speaker 1: HBCUs our first generational student athletes, so without them getting
Speaker 1: their education being able to get a decent job and
Speaker 1: provide for their families. It wouldn't be possible if they
Speaker 1: don't get their education. So we're hoping that they can
Speaker 1: get the computers they need so they can finish their
Speaker 1: eligibility and be eligible play next semester. So that's the
Speaker 1: other thing that if they don't finish their own line courses,
Speaker 1: then you know, I'm not for sure what the NCAA
Speaker 1: as far as allowing them, we're giving them a pass.
Speaker 1: Failed course. Well, we so much appreciate the time. Great
Speaker 1: to see. I know we ran into you when we
Speaker 1: were down in Atlanta earlier this season, and like I
Speaker 1: said again, one of my great favorites of all times.
Speaker 1: Good work, Thank you ORG. Great you see here all right,
Speaker 1: Thanks Tom, Thanks for listening to Tom's talks with me
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