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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Fish Bites. New episode brought to you

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Speaker 1: here on the Fish Stripes Podcast. Thank you, as always

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Speaker 1: for consuming our unique brands of Miami Marlin's coverage. I

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Speaker 1: am Eli Sussman, Managing editor of Fish Stripes, engaged with

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Speaker 1: get all our latest episodes here. This week, it was

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Speaker 1: my pleasure to chat with Kelly Sacho of Fox Sports Florida.

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Speaker 1: You know who I'm talking about, right.

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Speaker 2: Matadana doesn't seem to matter how many times this team

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Speaker 2: gets down, they fight back. How does a game like

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Speaker 2: this to find the resiliency.

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Speaker 3: Of this ball club is? I mean, it's amazing, It's

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Speaker 3: amazing how I do somewhere a group of young kids

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Speaker 3: and preparing every day. I know that it is difficult

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Speaker 3: for us, you know, we're like just looking for a

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Speaker 3: better resolve, But.

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Speaker 4: Like having a crowd.

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Speaker 3: Like this, you just no put us in a different perspective,

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Speaker 3: and every single guy was pumped up and thank you

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Speaker 3: for coming in and watch these awesome games you're playing.

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Speaker 3: A really good team and just be able to come

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Speaker 3: through for my teammates, and well, the whole seat of.

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Speaker 1: Miami is awesome. She's an energetic, clever, and flat out

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Speaker 1: talented reporter on Marlin's broadcast and special projects with the network.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait for everybody to listen to that interview about

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Speaker 1: her career and her upbringing and so much more that's

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Speaker 1: coming up for you very shortly. First order of business,

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Speaker 1: congratulations to the Washington Nationals twenty nineteen World Series champions.

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Speaker 1: They triumphed over the Houston Astros and Wednesday's winner take

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Speaker 1: all Game seven, a wild fall classic. Overall, every game

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Speaker 1: in the series won by the road team, first time

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Speaker 1: all year in any context that the Astros lost four

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Speaker 1: straight home games, including of course, the final Game seven

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday three two.

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Speaker 3: Here it is.

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Speaker 4: The Washington Nationals or World champions for the first time

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Speaker 4: in franchise history.

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Speaker 1: I guess if you had rewind all the way to

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the year and you had said that

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Speaker 1: those two teams would be the final two standing in

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Speaker 1: each league, it shouldn't have struck people as a big surprise.

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Speaker 1: Just speaking for myself personally, I thought the Nationals were

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Speaker 1: the best team in the NL East Division coming into

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Speaker 1: the year, they got off to that horrific start. The

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Speaker 1: one turning point, inflection point that everybody is looking back

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Speaker 1: when they had started nineteen and thirty one nineteen and

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Speaker 1: thirty one one of the worst records in the majors

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Speaker 1: and entered a series against the Marlins when the Marlins

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Speaker 1: opportunity for everything to really fall apart for the Nats.

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Speaker 1: It didn't that that was the time when they really

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Speaker 1: began to crawl out of that big hole, and from

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Speaker 1: of the regular season. They got in as a wild card,

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Speaker 1: they were trailing at some point, including the final two

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Speaker 1: World Series games. But even in the wild card the

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Speaker 1: division series against the Dodgers, this was a very resilient

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Speaker 1: team at the biggest opportunity. Everybody remembers how a year

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Speaker 1: return their two best hitters from twenty eighteen, being Anthony

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Speaker 1: Renton and Juan Soto. Both of those guys were tremendous

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Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen and so clutch in the postseason. The

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Speaker 1: MVP award for the World Series actually goes to Steven Strasburg,

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Speaker 1: who is the all time winner as an all time

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Speaker 1: He's obviously had a good career, but seen as somewhat

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Speaker 1: the ageless One I believe, the oldest active player in

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Speaker 1: relying mostly on their work horses in their rotation. Rodney

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Speaker 1: the year was Kyle Barklaw old friend Kyle Verklaw, who

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Speaker 1: sure exactly what the process will be for getting him

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Speaker 1: awkward timing for him. His son Mark Lerner instead ascended

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Speaker 1: So they're going to be well compensated. The Nationals, despite

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Speaker 1: So that's going to be very key. Tests is that

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Speaker 2: Hi, Kelly, Oh gosh, hello, how are you? And I'm

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Speaker 1: I have a bunch of serious questions fory Kelly, But

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Speaker 1: Man, Well, that's a good transition for us talking about

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Speaker 2: Definitely just kind of understanding the shoes that the guys

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Speaker 2: their shoes at a different level. I think it's really

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Speaker 2: helped because something that I personally don't think is talked

435
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Speaker 2: about enough is the mental aspect to the sport is insane. Now.

436
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a sport of failure very much as

437
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Speaker 2: softball is, or that's where one of the big similarities

438
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 2: between it and you can really just be just you know,

439
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 2: completely ruin your career from the mental aspect of it.

440
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Speaker 2: So I think that that understanding really helps going through

441
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Speaker 2: those slumps in a long season and the grind that helps,

442
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Speaker 2: and obviously the way the game is played and the

443
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Speaker 2: mechanical side of it, just being able to understand it

444
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Speaker 2: because you've kind of done it to an extent, plays

445
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Speaker 2: in the outfield, knowing things along the sides of done

446
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Speaker 2: a piece with John Birdie when he moved from the

447
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 2: infield to the outfield, filling in at one point wherever

448
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Speaker 2: in the outfield, and we're talking about like just how

449
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 2: you get prepared for a game, and knowing those things

450
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Speaker 2: like hey, okay, different warning tracks play a different way,

451
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Speaker 2: different wall different ball parks play a different way, and

452
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Speaker 2: this is and not being able to have that conversation

453
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Speaker 2: because those are the ways I would prepare when I

454
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Speaker 2: went out there, or vice versa. So I think those

455
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Speaker 2: would have to be the main ways that I was

456
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Speaker 2: able to take my experiences and relate to the guys

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Speaker 2: that I'm reporting on.

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Speaker 1: Kelly. I think we're with Kelly Saco of Fox Sports

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Speaker 1: Florida here on fish Bites. And one particular thing that

460
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Speaker 1: I noticed about you on a broadcast, I guess it

461
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: was right in the middle of the early in the year.

462
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Speaker 1: The first time I noticed is that you understand Spanish

463
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Speaker 1: and you speak Spanish, and I was that's so important

464
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Speaker 1: in covering Major League Baseball today, where every single team

465
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Speaker 1: has like multiple Hispanic players. And I think my first

466
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Speaker 1: assumption is that you may have been a native Spanish speaker,

467
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Speaker 1: but upon further records, I don't think that's accurate. Right,

468
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Speaker 1: you learned it in the school?

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Speaker 2: No, actually I was a native I guess. I don't

470
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Speaker 2: know what you could necessarily put that adds. But my

471
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Speaker 2: mother from Venezuela, born Aways, was born and raised Venezuela,

472
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Speaker 2: so I learned it at home. My father's American was

473
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: born and raised in Miami, and so I pretty much

474
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Speaker 2: learned it growing up in the household, speaking with my

475
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Speaker 2: mother and speaking with my grandparents in that side of

476
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Speaker 2: the family is pretty much how I learned it. But

477
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Speaker 2: I did get a minor in Spanish at Syracuse, so

478
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Speaker 2: I'm sure that's what your research took you perfected and

479
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 2: a more educational standpoint.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, well, even if you didn't sit out to

481
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Speaker 1: do it in particular, I mean that must just be

482
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Speaker 1: enormously useful in covering this team, and well particularly this team,

483
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Speaker 1: but really anything going on with Major League Baseball, where

484
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Speaker 1: we already went through how playing experience in softball gives

485
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: you some insight into what these players are experiencing. But

486
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: of course just being able to speak with them, like

487
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Speaker 1: very directly in the language that they're most comfortable in,

488
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Speaker 1: and being able to remove that barrier of a translator

489
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: and some of the things that they get lost in translation.

490
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Speaker 1: And I imagine that players that they can trust you

491
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Speaker 1: a little bit more closely than someone that has that

492
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Speaker 1: language barrier in place. That seems to be just a

493
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Speaker 1: really important aspect of covering a team, just even just

494
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Speaker 1: being around the team in private moments, being able to, yeah,

495
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: understand exactly what they're trying to say and what's going

496
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Speaker 1: on in their minds. And that's again, that's another thing

497
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Speaker 1: where it just feels like most other reporters in your

498
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: position for the time being don't have quite that skill

499
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Speaker 1: in their skill set to be able to really connect

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Speaker 1: with these players and earn their trust.

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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, I giggle whenever I think about it because

502
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: I remember my mother and I would give her a

503
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Speaker 2: hard time about speaking Spanish and she would be like,

504
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 2: you're going to thank me later, and you're gonna be

505
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 2: wish you did this later. Makes me your goals, Like

506
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: thanks mom, but also makes me want to say to

507
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 2: all the kids out there, learn Spanish, learn another language.

508
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: It's as a kid I used to kick and scream

509
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 2: about speaking it. Glad I was forced to wish I

510
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: did it more, wish I listened a little bit more.

511
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Speaker 2: But yes, I definitely think it has been a skill

512
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Speaker 2: set that has helped me along. Never set out to

513
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Speaker 2: do this career in general, So it was just nice

514
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 2: that my mother and father even really encouraged the knowledge

515
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Speaker 2: of that second language and in learning that second language.

516
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Speaker 2: And I do think this in any circumstance, that you're

517
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Speaker 2: just going to be most comfortable in your native language.

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Speaker 2: And I really do feel and hope that the guys

519
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 2: that I speak to feel comfortable talking to me even

520
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: if I don't speak it perfectly. And there are a

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Speaker 2: lot of things in the baseball world which I feel

522
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Speaker 2: like i'm learning. Baseball Spanish is a little different because

523
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, there's just like war, and there's phrases

524
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Speaker 2: that we use in English and baseball that don't translate

525
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 2: or said differently, or depending on the different country or

526
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Speaker 2: from it's said differently as well. And my mom' from

527
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 2: masas it said one way and then said in a

528
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Speaker 2: different way in the dr and et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: But yes, it's absolutely it's been very useful. I'm very

530
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Speaker 2: grateful to my family for making sure I learned that

531
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Speaker 2: second language, and quite frankly, I'm still trying to perfect

532
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Speaker 2: that language. But it's been been very great, and it's

533
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Speaker 2: allowed me to get to know some just incredible baseball

534
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: players from different parts of the world. So it's been great.

535
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Speaker 2: It's been great. I encourage everyone to try to learn

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Speaker 2: that second language.

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Speaker 1: The Marlins fans that are listening to us right now,

538
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: they're pretty familiar with the rest of Fox Sports Florida's

539
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: on air talent Paul Severino and Todd Hollinsworth, Jessica Blaylock,

540
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: Craigman Ravini, Tommy how didn't get Gabby Sanchez, and on

541
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Speaker 1: and on. But it's not like they have a magic

542
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Speaker 1: button that automatically starts the broadcast or summons up the

543
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: ground fix or roles the b rule or changes the cameras. Like.

544
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: They're not the only ones involved with putting together broadcasts,

545
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,959
Speaker 1: whether it's in the studio or at the games. So

546
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Speaker 1: there are a lot of people responsible for that. As

547
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: someone something I know from studying broadcasting as well, can

548
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: you shout out just a few of these behind the

549
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,479
Speaker 1: scenes people at the network that make your life easier,

550
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: who you work closely with and just give us a

551
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: better understanding of the rules that they play and making

552
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: what we see on the TV possible in the first place.

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Speaker 2: Well, how long do you get because that can go

554
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: on all day for the behind the scenes. I started

555
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 2: behind the scenes, and I think it's very important for

556
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Speaker 2: people to do that. I was very happy with the

557
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 2: past that I took, which was my very first job

558
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 2: outside of college as a production assistant with Fox and

559
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 2: I used to carry wires for the camera guys as

560
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 2: a utility person at heat games, literally chase the camera

561
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: guys holding wires at the heat games. And then during

562
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: baseball season, I used to hold lights, old camera gear,

563
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: white sweat off Brest wolves In's space because it was

564
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: it was always way too shiny whenever we were doing

565
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 2: stuff like Stans bills and when we're just trying to

566
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 2: do that, you got sweat here trying to make everyone

567
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,719
Speaker 2: look good. But it's true, It's absolutely true what they say,

568
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 2: as cliche as it is, it takes the village. It

569
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 2: is a team. And that's another reason why I very

570
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 2: very much loved being part of broadcast and being part

571
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Speaker 2: of something that's the team. And of those people, there's

572
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Speaker 2: so many people I don't I don't even know where

573
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: to start. I will start with even people at office.

574
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Speaker 2: So we've got people who are on set, we've got

575
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Speaker 2: people at the office. Christopher Pyatt has been one. He's

576
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: someone who deals with pretty much is kind of hard

577
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 2: to describe what he does, but deals with like kind

578
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: of all the footage that's coming in and now, and

579
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: really helped me really early on in my career. Was

580
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Speaker 2: I think one of the first, if not the first

581
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Speaker 2: person I met at Fox. And we've been working together

582
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 2: from nearly seven years now whenever I'm in the studio

583
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Speaker 2: and when I was doing my digital work in the

584
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Minute. So he has just been absolutely incredible.

585
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: Mike Plants, who's my camera guy, helps me produce. He

586
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 2: was someone who when I was an assistant. He used

587
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: to be shooting the kids show called Billy's Bunch that

588
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 2: I was a production assistant on and he used to

589
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 2: show up early and stay late to help me do

590
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 2: practice stand ups and he used to talk me through it,

591
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 2: try it again, this way, do this. And he's had

592
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: his own experience on air and just producing and doing everything,

593
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 2: and he's just always positive and always happy and just

594
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 2: he's my camera guy to this day on our shows

595
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 2: with Marlin's Clubhouse and many other shows that we do

596
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 2: inside the Marlins and Prospect Spotlight, So just having him around,

597
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 2: and he was someone who supported me when I was

598
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 2: behind the scenes twenty two years old, just trying to

599
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: get a reel together. So those are a couple people.

600
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 2: John Sulzer is one of the producers, the main producer

601
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: for our Marlins broadcast and he's something I love ful sert.

602
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 2: He's someone again I met very early on in my career,

603
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: the producer, and he pushes me and encourages me and

604
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: just wants me to be the best I can be

605
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: and really wants me to learn. So I really appreciate that,

606
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 2: and I really appreciate everyone's like just help and support.

607
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 2: And again, I could go on all day with people.

608
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: The camera guys are amazing having that great relationship. They

609
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 2: really care. There's so many of them they really care

610
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 2: abou this. Hey, let's make you look good, Let's sit here,

611
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,479
Speaker 2: let's let you like this, and just all those little

612
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 2: things that's just been It's been great. So again, we

613
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: can do a whole nother podcast to be talking about

614
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: everyone behind the scenes. And I'm sorry already for not

615
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 2: naming everybody here all day.

616
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I don't think the fans understand how good

617
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: they have it, just in particular what the cameraman, because

618
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: that's something where when I'm in charge of our fish

619
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Speaker 1: Stripe social media accounts and I'm trying to grab certain

620
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: certain reaction shots and turn them into gifts the cameramen

621
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Speaker 1: and that in the production that you guys do during

622
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: the games itself to capture all these great angles of

623
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: exactly what happens, and the reaction that everybody had. It's

624
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: something that even compared to other Major League Baseball broadcasts,

625
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: it's like it's at the absolute highest level of execution.

626
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: I can't get over like how well they do that

627
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: as someone that grew up watching a lot of Yankees

628
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: games where you think, oh, the Yankees have all the

629
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: best people employed in their game broadcasts, and what Fox

630
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: does from Marlin's games just like blows them out of

631
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: the water with how those are the little things that Yeah,

632
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: I mean, that doesn't even cover half of what you

633
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: mentioned in terms of the people that actually help you

634
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: get work done and all that and guide you and

635
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: support you. But it's it really is impressed that they

636
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: put together. Yeah.

637
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, those cameras are heavy and they are hard to move.

638
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 2: Our Kip reporter on Marlin's Clubhouse, which also shout out

639
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: to Cobert, one of our producers from Marlin's Clubhouse, is incredible. Again,

640
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 2: we always say teamwork makes the dream work. Dennis, one

641
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: of our camera guys that show. We all worked very

642
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 2: well as a team. But on that show in particular,

643
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: we had our kid reporter go on there and do

644
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 2: a behind the scenes day and she was trying to

645
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 2: shoot with the cameraon League Man, this was really difficult, Like, yeah,

646
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 2: it is so absolutely and just they do such a

647
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 2: great job and make care and it just again just

648
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: shout out all very enjoyable people to be around too.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's that's huge all the.

650
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Speaker 1: Way from when you were a production assistant earlier this season.

651
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: In September, he became a pioneer for the Marlins italyst

652
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 1: becoming the first woman to ever call an entire Marlins

653
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: radio broadcast. You did that with Glenn Geffner for a

654
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: couple of games at Marlins Park, and that was pretty amazing.

655
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: As someone that was listening to that, it was really

656
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: impressive to hear you step into that. It was a

657
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: lot different than reporting from the dugout or probably anything

658
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: you'd done with the Marlins previously. I'm just curious how

659
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: that was set up in the first place, to be

660
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: in that position, if you were aware that what you

661
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: were doing was in some ways historic for the team

662
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: that had not had a woman in that position over

663
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: twenty seven seasons, How did that come to be and

664
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: what did you think of that experience?

665
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 2: Oh, well, the experience is incredible. Just to come right

666
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 2: off the bat and say that was absolutely incredible. I

667
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 2: very much enjoyed it. Just the people there are wonderful.

668
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 2: I love the guys in the radio booth, Dave, Glenn,

669
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 2: Kyle ce Loss who does not get enough credit. He

670
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: pretty much runs the entire broadcast as long with filling

671
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 2: in play by play, and he's the reason why I

672
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 2: got into that to begin with. But I'll get to

673
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 2: that in a second. All those guys were just incredibly

674
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 2: supportive and amazing, and I always pop into the radio

675
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 2: booth because I just love spending time with those guys.

676
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: So the experience is great. Very thankful to the Marlins

677
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 2: allowed me to do that and to step in and

678
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 2: trust in me to do so. The historic where I

679
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 2: honestly really and I kind of thought, and okay, this

680
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 2: probably is but I try to put it, push it

681
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 2: off to the side for so many reasons when I

682
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 2: didn't want it to make me more nervous. Two, even

683
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 2: though I've got that on camera job and that you know,

684
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: kind of spotlight type of job, I don't I kind

685
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 2: of shy away from the attention. It makes me a

686
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 2: little nervous, so I didn't really want to think about it.

687
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 2: And then three, I just think that just women in

688
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 2: this industry have come so far to begin with that

689
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 2: it just really didn't feel like anything of significance. And

690
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, just because I'm a woman doesn't

691
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,439
Speaker 2: mean like there's any reason like there should be any

692
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 2: other you know, any more special. I'm just another human

693
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 2: in my eyes, just filling in the booth like a

694
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: lot of our guys for that year. So I'm like,

695
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,959
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm like, it didn't really just strike

696
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: me as anything historic in my mind. I'm just like, no,

697
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 2: I'm just another person filling in this year and just

698
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 2: very thankful for the opportunity. So, yeah, and how it

699
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: came about while I just got a phone calls in Marlins.

700
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 2: Oh it must have been in maybe February or March,

701
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: I really don't remember the exact time, and asking if

702
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,919
Speaker 2: I had any interest in filling in for a couple

703
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 2: of games during the season. I said yes. Then that's

704
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 2: pretty much how it came about.

705
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, that legitimizes it of it that it was

706
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: set up before the season. I thought, in my mind, oh,

707
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: maybe she was the backup, backup, back up, back up

708
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: in an emergency situation and they needed somebody on the air.

709
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: And they just grabbed whoever was there. But see that

710
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: they really sought you out right, I mean knowing that

711
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: there'd be like a little gap in the sedge of

712
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: but like really understanding that you would be a good

713
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: person for that role. That must be real.

714
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 2: That's fine, yep, I agree. I thought that was really cool.

715
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 2: Just so early on before the season, before release spring training,

716
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 2: everyon really got going that I got that phone call,

717
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 2: so that really meant a lot.

718
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: Right Well, returning to a more familiar role to you,

719
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: we have coming up. I actually don't know exactly when.

720
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: That's why I'm asking you, but we've coming up a

721
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: special on Fox Sports Florida from the Arizona Fall League.

722
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: That's something our listeners are very familiar with because we

723
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: go deep into the weeds with Marlin's prospects. We've talked

724
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: about all seven players that were out there, the strength

725
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: and conditioning coach that was out there, the manager. We'd

726
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: covered like every inch of the Fall League and what

727
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: happened there. As it turns out, you'd covered what turned

728
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: out to be the championship team, not about the Salt

729
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: River Rafters. They just this past Saturday they sealed the

730
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: deal and won a championship and had Marlins players right

731
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: in the middle of that. If I have it right,

732
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: you were also out there the previous year for the

733
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: Fall League, so it's not your first time in Arizona.

734
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: Just give us some information about when that special about

735
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: the Fall League is going to air, and anything in

736
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: particular about these players that you think they and should

737
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:00,720
Speaker 1: know about.

738
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 2: Well, the Fall League Show, our Marlin's Prospect Show is

739
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 2: going to air on November seventh, so a couple of

740
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 2: weeks from now. Very excited about it. It is my

741
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: second time back out to the Arizona Fall League. It's

742
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 2: it's really cool. I very much enjoy going out there.

743
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 2: I very much enjoyed covering prospects and in covering the

744
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 2: guys who are next, the next big stars. It's really

745
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 2: cool to watch players develop, and it's such a it's

746
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 2: just a crazy time in life. And we're not too

747
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 2: far of a not too big of a difference at

748
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: leave right now. It's changing age wise, so it's it's

749
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 2: kind of cool. I'm like, okay, I was just there

750
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 2: age wise, and you think about what you go through

751
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 2: just growing up as a human to begin with, and

752
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 2: then going through it on that kind of scale and

753
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: in that kind of you know, under that kind of

754
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 2: scope in professional athletics. I find it just so interesting

755
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 2: and I love getting to know the guys and kind of,

756
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 2: you know, figuring out what makes them tick and who

757
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: they are as a person. And that's what's really cool

758
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 2: about these shows is as much as we focus on

759
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 2: who they are as baseball players, we like to also

760
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 2: touch upon who they are as people and what kind

761
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 2: of teammates they are and what kind of you know,

762
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: what they like to do outside of baseball as well.

763
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: Which we actually took a couple of the guys indorsed

764
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 2: guy diving, so that's gonna be a lot of fun.

765
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 2: That'll be a lot of fun. We all really enjoyed that.

766
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 2: So yes, that show airs on the seventh against It's

767
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 2: really nice to get out there and just see the

768
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 2: level of talent that's there and just see these guys

769
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 2: grow and get to know get to know all of

770
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 2: the guys. And I got a chance to speak with

771
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 2: all seven of them, very good guys, very good guys

772
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: and not just talking about on the fields and talking

773
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 2: about off of it, respectful fun to be around, and

774
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 2: really cheering for every single one of them.

775
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: And you handled the weather all right, because one of

776
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: the significant differences this year is that they moved up

777
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,439
Speaker 1: the dates of the Fall League about a full month,

778
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: where it was starting in September this time and into October.

779
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: So I imagine that it was so hot early on that

780
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: I believe they had a policy where they didn't even

781
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: play afternoon games because they thought it was dangerous for

782
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: the players. I'm not sure exactly what dates were out there,

783
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: but it's definitely different kind of heat than we're used

784
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 1: to in Miami. So yeah, that wasn't too bad for you.

785
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 2: No, no, see, of course I'm going to pull the

786
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 2: girl line where the dry heat was really good for

787
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 2: my hair with a humansy or my makeup. But I

788
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 2: was actually coming. I came straight from from London. I

789
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 2: was over on a trip in England and Scotland and

790
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 2: Ireland just for fun, little vacation, and I came straight over,

791
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 2: so I was dealing like the high forties. We went

792
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 2: straight to the nineties, so like the weather was actually

793
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 2: very much I am a Miami girl, so the weather

794
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 2: was very much happily accepted to be out in the heat.

795
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: I was just like, okay, now I could just fall

796
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 2: for my two weeks of being cold. I enjoyed it.

797
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: It was like probably in like the low nineties when

798
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 2: I was there.

799
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: Well, i'll get you out of here on this. You've

800
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: been a great guest already looking ahead to twenty twenty,

801
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 1: even though it feels like it's hard to believe it's

802
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: already twenty twenty coming up. But what exactly is your

803
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 1: schedule going to look like this coming season? Has has

804
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: any of that been said in terms of how many

805
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: game broadcasts you're going to be a part of the

806
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: possibility of coming back and doing radio again for some

807
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,439
Speaker 1: of the regular season games. I know you've now been

808
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: on Marlins coverage for a few seasons now, and I

809
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: actually would love to know exactly how many games you

810
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: worked last year because it seems like more than in

811
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: years past. But I didn't have an exact number on that.

812
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: Where can people expect to Well, how much do you

813
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: know about what that schedule is going to look like

814
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: for you next season?

815
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know. I wish I did. You know,

816
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 2: I very much am well organized organizational freak here. I

817
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 2: love having everything I kind of figured out. But the

818
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 2: nature of the Beast and broadcast this industry. Is that things,

819
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 2: you know, kind of taking care of a little closer

820
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: to the season. So this season just ended, all that

821
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 2: stuff is still in the works and Fox Sports Florida

822
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: covers for you know, other teams, well six teams in total,

823
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 2: but four teams during the off season, you know, Heat,

824
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: Magic and Lightning and Panther, So they're all in the

825
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 2: midst of that. But hopefully we'll have all that figure

826
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 2: it out soon and I'll be able to answer that.

827
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 2: But yes, this past season, I did a lot more games.

828
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 2: I very much enjoyed it, and I hope to do

829
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: just as much or more next season because I really

830
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 2: do enjoy being there and being welcomed into everybody's living

831
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 2: rooms and homes and just bringing a little more baseball

832
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 2: to everyone.

833
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: In the meantime, we'll have everybody keep tabs on you

834
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: at Kelly Sacho on Twitter, at Kelly Saco Underscore Sports

835
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: on Instagram, and I mean you put some great shots

836
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: up on there. I know we mentioned at the beginning

837
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: of the show the makeup that you've learned to do

838
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: on yourself. We can include some examples of that when

839
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: we post this episode on the website. Just something you

840
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: can understand that that.

841
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, little art, little art on the side.

842
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this was excellent, Kelly. It was great getting

843
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 1: to learn a little bit more about you, and uh,

844
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: it was this was a great season following what you

845
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: brought to the to the broadcast. You're really comfortable on camera.

846
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: That's what stuck out to me. And obviously you have

847
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: a very bright future around the team and the team itself.

848
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: We like to think it's a very bright future. So

849
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: great that have the best in the business covering a

850
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: team that hopes to be one of the best in

851
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: its business as these young players break through to the majors.

852
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: We'll have people watch that Fall League special from you

853
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 1: coming up November seventh. This was Kelly Sacho from Fox

854
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: Sports Florida. Thank you so much for coming on the pod.

855
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 1: If you get really bored later in the off season,

856
00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: might bring you back on in the future, but this

857
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: is Yeah, we're so glad to have you on the

858
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: pod on Fish Bites. Thank you, Kelly, No.

859
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 2: Thank you so much again. You guys spattered me. It

860
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 2: was really my pleasure. Thank you so much.