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Speaker 1: the Late Kick Extra Podcast. Tuesday Morning, November thirtieth, Year

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Speaker 1: morning recording only cause I don't know if you've realized this.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to convey to you what covering

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Speaker 1: like as a fan. Imagine trying to cover it. Imagine

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Speaker 1: having to say things that hold up for over twenty

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Speaker 1: Oh and I should mention I have a bad cold

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Speaker 1: right now, so it sounds like I have a hedgehog

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Speaker 1: Kick Extra Podcast. I'm Josh Bate. We do this thing

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Speaker 1: every Tuesday morning and Thursday morning. It is mail bag

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Speaker 1: Q and a Waldwall. You can hit me at late

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Speaker 1: Kick Josh on Twitter. You can hit me at late

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Speaker 1: kick Josh on Instagram. I would highly advise you to

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Speaker 1: be following those channels. At late Kick Josh. This is

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Speaker 1: the new battleground December. Late November through December, that is

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Speaker 1: the new battleground in college football. That is where everything happens.

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Speaker 1: I'm a big believer that the early signing Day has

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Speaker 1: so Will Anderson and Dallas Turner. They have to do

429
00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,480
Speaker 1: the same thing here. They have to force second and longs,

430
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Speaker 1: they have to force turnovers. In an ideal world, that's

431
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Speaker 1: how it would happen. But they have to keep Georgia

432
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Speaker 1: off balance enough and they have to impact the game

433
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Speaker 1: early enough to where Georgia offensively goes into a shell,

434
00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,359
Speaker 1: which they've been prone to do in the past. It

435
00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,840
Speaker 1: hasn't been that way this year. But if you yourself

436
00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,960
Speaker 1: can hit deep balls and you can force Georgia, because

437
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,399
Speaker 1: of the threat of how it plays and turnovers, to

438
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,560
Speaker 1: be more conservative in their approach, then you've got a shot.

439
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,240
Speaker 1: Because Alabama's run defense is really good. So if Georgia

440
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 1: ends up lacking the ability to take advantage of maybe

441
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,919
Speaker 1: a mismatch or two a wide receiver and tight end

442
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,719
Speaker 1: core versus Alabama secondary and linebacker corps, well, then all

443
00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 1: of a sudden. I don't care really what the points

444
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:28,960
Speaker 1: spread says. George is not in a position to pull

445
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,000
Speaker 1: away themselves, and so it's a tight game that has

446
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,800
Speaker 1: to happen. What can't happen and what could lead to

447
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 1: a double digit Georgia win is if Bama tries to

448
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 1: settle into the game because Georgia you'd be happy doing

449
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 1: that because Georgia and knows over four quarters they're the

450
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 1: better team, which they are this year, they are the

451
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,359
Speaker 1: better team, They're the deeper, more experienced team. This is

452
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 1: the year for them to do it, and that's why

453
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 1: I think so much pressure is on them. I know

454
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 1: it's gotten kind of old me saying this. Some have

455
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Speaker 1: even labeled me a Georgia hater. As I record this

456
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Speaker 1: podcast in Georgia at home where I grew up and

457
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 1: spent my entire childhood in early adult life, I hope

458
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 1: I haven't been unclear in what I'm trying to say here. Yeah,

459
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 1: so Georgia hater JP says that there is immense pressure

460
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 1: on Georgia for that very reason. When will you ever

461
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 1: have a better chance, When will you ever have a

462
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 1: clearer path? Look around Ohio State, I thought was a

463
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 1: bad potential matchup for Georgia. But they're out of the

464
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 1: way now, so there are no other passing attacks out

465
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,880
Speaker 1: there that you fear, and you flat out don't think

466
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,479
Speaker 1: any team's going to be able to run on you

467
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,919
Speaker 1: to win, nor should you because I don't think there

468
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 1: is a team out there that can run on Georgia

469
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Speaker 1: to win. And so where are the hurdles. Well, I'll

470
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Speaker 1: tell you the biggest hurdle remaining for Georgia is this Saturday.

471
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Speaker 1: That's the biggest remaining hurdle and that's what it'll always be.

472
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Speaker 1: Sometimes this game's complex, but it really comes down to

473
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Speaker 1: that for Georgia, they've got to get past Alabama. That's

474
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 1: the way it should be. I mean, if you were

475
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Speaker 1: writing the story for this SEC Championship game, this's Georgia team.

476
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what it reminds me of. Kirby Smart

477
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 1: will know this all too well. I'm not sure he's

478
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 1: going to have time to listen to the pod today,

479
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 1: but he'll know about all this because he knows what

480
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 1: it was like in two thousand and eight when Sabin

481
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Speaker 1: had gotten to Alabama. They finally got to the SEC

482
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Speaker 1: Championship Game. Second year there, they go up against Tim

483
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Speaker 1: Tebow and Florida and they are very competitive. They're leading

484
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Speaker 1: twenty to seventeen. I believe it was I was at

485
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 1: this game as a paid fan. I was at this

486
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 1: game and Tim Tebow in Florida. They rattle off I

487
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,880
Speaker 1: want to say it was fourteen unanswered in the fourth quarter.

488
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 1: They win thirty one to twenty. And that entire following

489
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Speaker 1: summer and spring, even and fall, the singular focus in

490
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Speaker 1: that Alabama Athletic Complex was get back to Atlanta and

491
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,919
Speaker 1: let's get another shot at Florida. I mean, that's what

492
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,640
Speaker 1: they new stood between them and getting where they wanted

493
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Speaker 1: to go. I had a coach tell me one time.

494
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Speaker 1: The following day after they lost that game in Atlanta,

495
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 1: they had a staff meeting and Nick Saban just walked

496
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 1: in and point and blank said, if you're not ready

497
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 1: to do what it takes and to go get the

498
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,919
Speaker 1: players it takes to beat Florida and Urban Meyer, then

499
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 1: get out of the room. It was probably a little

500
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 1: more colorful than that. They knew they had to get

501
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Speaker 1: past that team. They were not the King, they were

502
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Speaker 1: not the Alpha. Yet. Now once you became the alpha,

503
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 1: then it's just about maintaining your standard. But they had

504
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: folks in the way between them and the mountaintop at

505
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 1: that point. And so what happened was they get back

506
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,360
Speaker 1: to Atlanta the next year and they got the same matchup,

507
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: and Florida's favored again, but that time it was not

508
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: nearly as competitive. Even Bama rolls over Florida thirty two

509
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 1: to thirteen, I think was the final score that day.

510
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 1: And once they knocked down that barrier, then they go

511
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 1: to California and they beat Texas for the national championship.

512
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Speaker 1: Five more titles have followed since then for Nick Saban,

513
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Speaker 1: But it all started with Urban Meyer and Florida being

514
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Speaker 1: in the way. They had to get them out of

515
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: the way. They had to knock that wall down. Georgia's

516
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 1: gotta knock the Alabama wall down. They've been several times,

517
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Speaker 1: not just once. They've been up against it several times.

518
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Speaker 1: Twenty seventeen overtime National championship, can't get it done, twenty

519
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: eighteen SEC Championship, can't get it done, twenty twenty regular season,

520
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: can't get it done. They got another shot. You'll just

521
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,719
Speaker 1: keep running into that wall and falling down flat until

522
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 1: you knock it down. They gotta knock it down Saturday.

523
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,479
Speaker 1: That's it. That's really it, That's all there is to it.

524
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 1: Once they do that, there is strong reason to believe

525
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 1: Georgia would go on to win the national championship. So

526
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: no pressure. Other than all the pressure. Here's what else

527
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:19,239
Speaker 1: we have an AD break be right back. So as

528
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: you notice, first off, I snuck the AD break up

529
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Speaker 1: on you. Second thing, you've probably noticed, as I said

530
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Speaker 1: in the opening, I'm a little under the weather. Quite literally,

531
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: the weather has caused this. I've been in a different

532
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: city every week for the past fourteen weeks. This weekend

533
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: will be no different. Now it's great, it's fun, but

534
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: what it does is it really messes with you because

535
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: I was in a snowstorm up in Michigan and now

536
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: I'm in Georgia and it is seventy four degrees and

537
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: sunny outside right now. And believe it or not, sometimes

538
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,479
Speaker 1: the senses don't know how to act. So I got

539
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: a little head cold. Nothing serious. Gonna still do the

540
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: show tonight, Still doing the show right now in some

541
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Speaker 1: form at least. But let's talk about this trip. This

542
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Speaker 1: has become some of your favorite parts of the podcast.

543
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: But I know some of you don't care. That's why

544
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: I put it at the very end, so you can

545
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: listen to the meat and then dessert if you don't

546
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: want it. If you're one of those folks who doesn't

547
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: like dessert, you're a psychopath. I will admit that you're

548
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: a psychopath. But we have room in our audience for

549
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 1: all kinds. We can all be saints. You need a

550
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,719
Speaker 1: healthy balance of saint and psychopath. That's what Memo always

551
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: told me. And so if you do want to stick

552
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: around the Saints amongst us, then yes, I will tell

553
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: you a little tale of the trip up to ann Arbor.

554
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: Let me lay out how the travel had to work

555
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 1: for this. I'm in Nashville, obviously, that's where a home

556
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: base of operation is. I'm just gonna run through this

557
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 1: in a blur because even if I say it's slow

558
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: like my mother, half of you will forget what the

559
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 1: details were. Anyway, So we're in Nashville Tuesday night before

560
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: the game we do late Kick Live. I immediately drive home

561
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Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving. I am in Columbus or Harris County, not Columbus.

562
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Speaker 1: I'm in Harris County, Georgia Wednesday Thursday for Thanksgiving. Then Friday,

563
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: in order to avoid the TSA lines at Atlanta Hartsfield,

564
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: I go to Columbus Airport, which is like ten minutes

565
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Speaker 1: south of my home, my original home in Harris County,

566
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Speaker 1: and I leave my jeep in the parking lot at

567
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Speaker 1: Columbus Airport. I fly to Atlanta, connect there, fly to Detroit,

568
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 1: get the rental car, go stay in Detroit, and then

569
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: drive to ann Arbor. The next day, we go to

570
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: the game, leave the game after we cover it, immediately

571
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: drive in a driving snowstorm to the Detroit airport and

572
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: I fly to Nashville. I'm supposed to have a rental

573
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 1: car waiting for me in Nashville, but since our plane

574
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: had delay for de icing, you know that old chestnut,

575
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: I don't have time to get there to pick up

576
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: my rental car. It's already closed. I got into like

577
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Speaker 1: two am, and so I have to uber back to

578
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 1: my apartment. Next morning, I have to uber back over

579
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Speaker 1: to the airport, pick up my rental car, then go

580
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 1: back to my apartment. Put Lake Kick Live together, do

581
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Speaker 1: Lake Kicklive Sunday night in Nashville, immediately drive overnight back

582
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Speaker 1: down to Harris County, just north of Columba so another

583
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Speaker 1: five hour drive after a show. Almost dozed off a

584
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: couple of times. I had to pull over and do

585
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 1: jumping jacks, which is my secret go to that and caffeine.

586
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 1: I am now down here until Wednesday, when I will

587
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Speaker 1: head up to Atlanta and I will be downtown for

588
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: several days because we will be doing Late Kick Live

589
00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: Thursday night from somewhere in or around Mercedes Benz Stadium.

590
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: We will then cover the SEC Championship game Saturday. Then

591
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: I'll be back up to Nashville overnight to do Lake

592
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: Kick Live Sunday. And that, my friends, is what travel

593
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 1: looks like this time of year in the wonderful world

594
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: of college football. But I'm not complaining. I just want

595
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: you to feel sorry for me, that's all. So now

596
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: that you feel sorry for me, let me take you

597
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: through this. I was looking at the weather forecast the

598
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: entire week leading up to this game. It started off sunny,

599
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: then there was a chance of some flurries on Sunday,

600
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: but Saturday was still going to be clear. But by

601
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 1: the time we get to kick off, the forecast has

602
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: gone downhill, and so obviously we had some snow to

603
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: deal with. During the Ohio State Michigan game. It got

604
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: way worse after it was over. More on that in

605
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: a second. But let me explain something to you. I

606
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: just want you. I just want to lay this out

607
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: for you. A lot of you are like me. Most

608
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: of you are like me. You just grew up massive

609
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: fans of this game, and you watched these big events.

610
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: You watched the Iron Bowl, or you watched Ohio State Michigan,

611
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 1: or you watched OU Texas. But if you grew up

612
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: like me, you don't come from a ton of wealth.

613
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: You certainly never think you're going to be able to

614
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: experience all this. It's just going to be something that

615
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: lives on TV. Well, I've gotten to a point in

616
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: life where I'm fortunate enough. Blessed enough is the word,

617
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 1: to be able to go to these things. Well, I

618
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: think about it in real time. Now it may make

619
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: me weird, but I think about it in real time.

620
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking, I can't believe I'm here. It's pinched myself.

621
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: It's like say a quick prayer of thanks as the

622
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: game's going on. I kid you not, I do that

623
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: all the time. Just man, thank you for letting me

624
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: be here. And I was talking to ben Hartstock on

625
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: the field before the game. He of course played at

626
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: Ohio State playing in the league, and I was talking

627
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: to him about that. He does work for Serious XM

628
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: now and he was the same way, you know, and

629
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: he's actually played in that game, but he was saying, Dude,

630
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: I cannot believe how different the vantage point is and

631
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: how more you pick up when you're not playing in

632
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: the game. When you're playing, you're focused. You don't get

633
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: to sit back and smell the roses, so to speak.

634
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: But when you do get to do that, like we

635
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: do every week, boy, it's eye opening. And so when

636
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: the game is almost about to start, you're just seeing

637
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: all the stuff that you swore once upon a time

638
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,239
Speaker 1: you'd only ever get to see on TV, and you're

639
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: seeing it in person, and it's living up to the hype.

640
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: That's what stands out the most. A lot of times

641
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: when things are hyped, they don't live up to the hype.

642
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: This game so definitely lived up to the hype and

643
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: then some and we get into it and you start

644
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: to feel it out early. You know, you obviously know

645
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: with how lethal Ohio State is, there's a chance if

646
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: they strike early, you're in the same position you were

647
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: last week, just a different venue, but you're in the

648
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: same position. You're watching Ohio State run rough shot over

649
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: someone and you're trying to find time to kill it

650
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: before you go to the airport. Well, that's not the

651
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: way it started. And when Michigan starts to move the

652
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: ball and they start to own the line of scrimmage,

653
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: you realize it doesn't mean they're going to win, but

654
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: it does mean you're setting yourself up for a four

655
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: quarter game and you're in position. That's all you want

656
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: to be. You want to be in position to see

657
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: a great game if you're doing what we're doing. And

658
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: so what was the most fun is as that game

659
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: gets deeper and deeper and more towards halftime, that crowd

660
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: starts to believe more and more. And so the Michigan

661
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: stadium setup is such that there's one tunnel kind of

662
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: like the Cotton earlier this year. And so I went

663
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: up the tunnel with about a minute to go, and

664
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: I just just go up there, just see what happens.

665
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: At the very least, I know I'm going to get

666
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: some good footage for you guys to put on the

667
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: Instagram story. Well, as I was recording as you all

668
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: have seen by now that little skirmish breaks out in

669
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Speaker 1: the tunnel, and I cannot believe it. Like I'm holding

670
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: my phone, I probably if you could have seen my

671
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: face look like a ten year old kid at his

672
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: first concert, because you know that you're seeing something in

673
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: real life, in real time. That first off, it's obviously

674
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: going to go viral, but second off, it is part

675
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: of what will be shown for the next one hundred

676
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: years when people talk about what makes that rivalry unique,

677
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: when they talk about Ohio State Michigan or Michigan Ohio State,

678
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: however you want to phrase it, they will show that

679
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: video that I would just happen to be fortunate enough

680
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: slash blessed enough to be standing there recording. That is

681
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: the embodiment if you were to try and convey to

682
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: one of your NFL friends who doesn't watch college, why

683
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: college is different. That's part of it, But that wasn't

684
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: the big It's part of that because it could have

685
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: just been a video and then nothing else. It was

686
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: that Michigan took that same energy back out onto the

687
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: field in the third quarter, fourth quarter and they end

688
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: up running the score up a little bit, and as

689
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: time is winding down, I go up to finally charge

690
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: my battery for the last time. In the media room,

691
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: talked with any Agar for about ten minutes in there.

692
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: A lot of you guys know her from the NFL

693
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: video she does. And as I'm in the room, I

694
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: can hear security talking, and sure enough I hear it

695
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: come over the headset. Hey, if Michigan wins, we expect

696
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: the field to be stormed. Don't get in the way.

697
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: And I said, oh boy, here we go. You know,

698
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: because it had not really dawned on me that that

699
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: was a possibility at that game. But once I thought

700
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: to myself, yeah, that makes sense, I got the battery charged,

701
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: and I headed down to the field, took in the

702
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: last few minutes of that game, and then it breaks

703
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: loose and that clock hit zero, and those folks come

704
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: on the field. And here was the difference at Baylor

705
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, when they stormed the field after

706
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: they beat Oklahoma. We looked around. We saw mostly kids.

707
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: I mean it was it's really it was mostly the

708
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: student section that came on the field. In this setting,

709
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: I'm looking around, I see one person eighteen years old,

710
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: I see one person forty eight years old. It was everybody.

711
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: It was like the entire Michigan fan base just spills

712
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: out onto the field all ages. You had so much relief,

713
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: so much happiness, so much euphoria. So I took my phone.

714
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: If you were watching on the Instagram story, you saw,

715
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: I started recording, and all I thought to do was

716
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: just turn in circles, and so I just kept going

717
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: around and around and around, slow enough where you could

718
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: see individual faces. But I wanted you to be able

719
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: to see what I'm seeing. It's really weird. If you've

720
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: ever played the game of football, you know what it

721
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: looks like. Otherwise you don't know what it's like to

722
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: be on the field, like at the fifty yard line

723
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: while the place is going crazy. You just want to

724
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: capture it as best you can do a full panoramic

725
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: view and show everyone the three hundred and sixty degree

726
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: view that you have, because you know it's just first off,

727
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: it's something you never thought you'd have, and then secondly,

728
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: it's history. His history is happening as as you're speaking.

729
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: History is happening, as you're thinking. History is happening. And

730
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: to be in the middle of that, I don't know

731
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: how to convey it. To you. I know it's different.

732
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: For folks like us. It's different because if you just

733
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: grew up a fan, you are a fan. First. I

734
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: was not very professional, let me say. I mean, I

735
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: wasn't doing anything irresponsible, but I did not view myself

736
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: as a professional in that moment. I didn't grow up

737
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: a Michigan fan or anything like that. But man, I'm

738
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: a fan of the game, and so if I'm out

739
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: there being a part of that, I was acting no

740
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: different than any of you would have acted. If you

741
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: were caught up in that, you would have basically kind

742
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: of let yourself go and just enjoyed it. That's what

743
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: I did. And then thirty minutes later I composed myself

744
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: because it took them that long, at least that long

745
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: to empty the field. I don't know how long they

746
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: stayed on the broadcast, but after after a while, I

747
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: went up the tunnel because they got crazy out there.

748
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm in the full mob. I'm in the

749
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: middle of the mash pip. If you guys have ever

750
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: been in that setting, you know that there's this weird

751
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: thing that happens. You can sometimes move without your feet

752
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: moving because the folks are so tightly packed together. It's dangerous,

753
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: of course, but the folks are so tightly packed together

754
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: that sometimes you move but you're not walking, like you

755
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: can go ten or fifteen feet, but you didn't take

756
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: a step. So when that started, happened, and I said,

757
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: I think I'll go ahead and duck out of here.

758
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 1: So I went up the tunnel for a little while

759
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: and waited for the crowd to die down, and I

760
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: sent some video and whatnot. So when I came back down,

761
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: it's time for us to do our post game hits

762
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: on CBS Sports HQ and good news and bad news.

763
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: The good news was the field had mostly emptied. The

764
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: bad news is we had like half an inch to

765
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 1: three quarter an inch per hour snowfall rates coming down,

766
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: and we had to go out there with a bunch

767
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: of expensive equipment and get it wet as we did

768
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 1: our postgame hit. And all the while, I'm thinking to myself,

769
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: I gotta drive, I gotta drive a long way. I

770
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: gotta drive to the airport after this what's about to happen.

771
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: And normally what I'll do when a game's winding down,

772
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: as I'll start to type the airport in the GPS,

773
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: I just want to get a gauge of how long

774
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: it's telling me it's going to take to get there.

775
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: So normally that'd be a twenty twenty five minute drive

776
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,959
Speaker 1: from ann Arbor at the Stadium to Detroit Airport. And

777
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: so afterwards we're two hours after the games ended. We

778
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: took our time two hours after the games ended. IGPs.

779
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: I think this has two hours to the airport, So

780
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I know, we're probably screwed. Luckily, I had

781
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: a ten thirty flight, so I had time big game day,

782
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: and he didn't have time. Man, Dennis, he didn't have time.

783
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: I had time because I had a later flight. But man,

784
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: driving to Detroit, I don't think I ever got above

785
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: twenty five miles an hour on I ninety four, which

786
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: was not treated. It was not treated at all for

787
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: the weather that ended up rolling in. I was so

788
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: proud of myself. I think I had a bigger accomplishment

789
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: as a Southern kid driving to the airport in that

790
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: than Michigan actually did beating Ohio State that day. But

791
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: the one thing that I wanted to tell you guys

792
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 1: without naming names, is this game, more so than probably

793
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: any this season so far, I had a combination of

794
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: other national media types that you would all recognize, coaches

795
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: that many of you would recognize making it a point

796
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: to come up to me and compliment the show or

797
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: talk about the show. And the reason I want to

798
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 1: tell you about it is because it's validation, affirmation, whichever

799
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,479
Speaker 1: word you want to choose for you, because the whole

800
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: reason anyone knows about the show is because you have

801
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: made them know about the show. Like I've told you

802
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: many times, we don't have a marketing budget. Now I've

803
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: said that so much it becomes redundant. But think about

804
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: what I'm telling you. We have a product, well, that's great,

805
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: but if you don't pay the grocery store, they will

806
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: not put the product on the shelf. What we've done

807
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: is we've built the product and we have not paid

808
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: to put the product on the shelf because you the customer.

809
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: You have stood outside the grocery store and banged on

810
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,919
Speaker 1: the door and said we want the product so much

811
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: that they've been forced to put it on the shelf.

812
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: That's kind of how this show's taken off, and it's

813
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: taken off so much that everybody else out there in

814
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: our industry has taken notice. And obviously a lot of

815
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: people in the coaching industry have taken notice, and so

816
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: every time I shake hands with someone and they're talking

817
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: about the show. In some cases these are folks I

818
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: grew up watching myself, or I grew up reading myself.

819
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: All I want to do is I want to say

820
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: hold on just a second, and I want to take

821
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: my phone and go live and say, hey, could you

822
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: tell the audience that, of course we can't do that,

823
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: but I just wanted to pass it on yet again.

824
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 1: Another week from a lot of notable people to you guys.

825
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: Great job, Thank you for making the show what it

826
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: has been. We had our most watched show ever Sunday night.

827
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: I have no clue what tonight's show is going to do.

828
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: We're going to be in a bunker somewhere in Georgia.

829
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I have no clue. Every time I

830
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: think I put a cap on what we're capable of,

831
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: we blow the cap off. So you guys, you are

832
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: limitless in your potential. So let's get this wrapped up.

833
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: I'll try to go get my voice back. Looking forward

834
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 1: to tonight's show, I'm actually going to get outside for

835
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: a little while. It is so beautiful in Georgia right now,

836
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: I kid you not is seventy degrees. It is sunny.

837
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: I don't know that they'll see the sun again in

838
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: Detroit until March or April. So this is a welcome

839
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 1: change from what we were seeing weatherwise this weekend. So again, sincerely, guys,

840
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you. Do not miss a

841
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: show this time of year. Don't miss a show. There

842
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: is so much happening. I try and give you everything

843
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: you need to know and trim out all the fat

844
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: you don't need. And that's going to be a chore,

845
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: but we'll do it tonight as best we can. So

846
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: let's send this over to produce Jordan. I'm Josh Bate.

847
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm out of here. Have a great rest of your day,

848
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: and God bless you.