1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants huts. Let's Giants, 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: get my Giants, give me some jobs. 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 2: Part of the Giants Podcast Network. Let's roll. 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 3: Welcome to our Friday edition of the Giants Little Podcast, 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 3: brought to you by Citizens, the official bank of the 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 3: New York Football Giants. 7 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: I am John Schmelck. 8 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 3: It is our audio only edition, our usual Friday fair. 9 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 3: We have our long player interview with Wandell Robinson about 10 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 3: what's going on at the quarterback position, his season, the 11 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 3: wide receiver room, and a little bit of on the 12 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 3: Bucks as well. We're gonna have a closer look at 13 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 3: the Buccaneers with Scott Reynolds and the Pewter Report, and 14 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 3: then we will hear from Brian Dable, who was interviewed 15 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 3: by the voice of the Giants, Bob pap Up. 16 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: Let's lead off with Wandoll Robinson. 17 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 3: Now we're joined by Giants wide receiver Waldell Robinson. Wandell, 18 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 3: how are you man? 19 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 4: I'm doing well? 20 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 3: How'd you buy them? 21 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 5: Boby was great? Got this, Just spend some time at home, 22 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 5: just relax, let the body recover. 23 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 3: So yeah, and then you know, you get back and 24 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 3: nice and calm. Nothing, no big news nothing's going on. 25 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 3: Uh So how did you react and find out about 26 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: the news with the quarterback change. 27 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 5: I mean I found out just from everybody, well Dave's 28 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 5: whenever we had our team meeting, let never letting the 29 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 5: team know. And I mean reaction was a little I 30 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 5: was kind of surprised, but then again, at the same time, 31 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 5: you never know what may happen coming off of buy 32 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 5: and obviously they said that they were going to look 33 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 5: and evaluate things. So knowing that they we had some 34 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 5: history with Tommy and had some good games last year, 35 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 5: just excited for him to get out there. 36 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like the reaction to something like this is tough, right, 37 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 3: because you know, Daniel's been doing this a long time. 38 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 3: You guys have had success with him. We all know 39 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 3: how hard he works and he's got all the tools. 40 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 3: But at the same time, I think, and you'll understand this, 41 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 3: averaging the fewest points per game in the league the record, 42 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 3: So how do you kind of square that circle as 43 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 3: a player when you hear that they're making that sort 44 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 3: of change. 45 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 5: I mean, you just got to look at it, like, 46 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 5: at the end of the day, just keep going out 47 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 5: there doing your job and as a receiver, doing everything 48 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 5: you can to help Tommy make his life a whole 49 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 5: lot easier, being open as much as possible, just allowing 50 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 5: them to have an easy target to get to and 51 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 5: at the end of the day, just kind of getting 52 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 5: trying to get a little spark, and you go out 53 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 5: there to put some more points about there on the board. 54 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 3: So and we'll get Tommy. The second last one on 55 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 3: on Daniel, just to give fans out there an idea 56 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 3: the amount of respect that the teammates have for him 57 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 3: in there. Why is there so much adoration respect for 58 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 3: Daniel in that locker room, not just from you guys 59 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 3: on offense, but from guys on the defensive side of 60 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 3: the ball too. 61 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 5: Just the way he comes in every day. He's the 62 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 5: same person, even whenever the I guess you could so 63 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 5: called benching has happened. Still one of the first guys 64 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 5: in whenever I'm pulling in and you see that, you 65 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 5: see his g wagon, you see his car right there. 66 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 5: So nothing's changed with him. But just even from the 67 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 5: start of the season OTAs, he's always been the same guy, 68 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 5: just coming into work doing everything he could, recovering from 69 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 5: the acol, making sure he was ready for week one. 70 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 5: Everybody just always sees that and sees how hard he 71 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 5: works and just as a tremendous and not respect for him. 72 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 3: And how much is it his play style? You know, 73 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 3: for as a quarterback. You know you got the angry 74 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: run thing three weeks ago. He's lowering his shoulders running 75 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 3: over linebackers. We're always begging him to slide. He doesn't 76 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 3: want to slide. He's two thirty runs like a running back. 77 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 3: Is the what he plays? The game part of it too? 78 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, definitely. 79 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 5: I mean a lot of times you can tell not 80 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 5: a lot of stuff fases him, and he tries not 81 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 5: to let the outside noise get into our locker room 82 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 5: and just being an ultimate leader and just trying to 83 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 5: lead us by example and just doing everything he could 84 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 5: out there on the field. 85 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about Tommy. You had a lot 86 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 3: of experience with him last year. What is Tommy DeVito 87 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 3: bring to the football field that makes allowed him to 88 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: help you, you know, win three straight games with them 89 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 3: last year. 90 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 5: Tommy brings some swag to him. I mean, you know, 91 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 5: he just went ouver he's out there playing. You can 92 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 5: kind of tell that he plays just a little bit 93 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 5: more swag than a lot of other quarterbacks, and he 94 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 5: just has the confidence out there, so a little bit 95 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 5: of a gunslinger and sometimes you know, as the receiver, 96 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 5: we like that a lot and just kind of giving 97 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 5: us some chances. But I think Tommy's doing extremely well 98 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 5: right now. 99 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: So what do you mean by swag? Define that? 100 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: For me? 101 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 4: It's hard to define. 102 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 5: It's just like you just kind of see it in 103 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 5: your quarterback and whatever you're out there as receivers, you 104 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 5: can definitely tell whenever your quarterbacks just kind of out 105 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 5: there confident. Bob like just kind of bopping around and 106 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 5: it's kind of like, yeah, this guy, he's in a 107 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 5: groove and you can just kind of toll whenever the 108 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 5: ball is coming out of his army. All right, he 109 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 5: has some confidence with so no. 110 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: I talked to Tommy in the offseason, and you know, 111 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: when you're in the middle of it, you really can't telp. 112 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: But when he looked back at it his rookie year, 113 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: he's like, man, I just got thrown into the deep 114 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 3: end and that was tough, and it was drinking out 115 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 3: of a fire hose and it was it was really 116 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 3: really difficult. But he says now it's so much different 117 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 3: having done it. Binning games, getting all these snaps and 118 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 3: that was even before training camp, right, he felt so 119 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 3: much more comfortable. So where have you seen the progress 120 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 3: that Tommy's made from year one and year two, even 121 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 3: just from the reps you had with him in OTAs. 122 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 5: I mean, he just has a way more command in 123 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 5: the offense, knowing regards are supposed to be, letting us 124 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 5: know if we're not in the right spot or things 125 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 5: like that, or how he wants a certain thing. Just 126 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 5: it's been really good to see him like that and 127 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 5: just see the growth that he had from last year. Obviously, 128 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 5: I can't imagine being a rookie quarterback in this offense 129 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 5: and everything, all the reads and everything you have to know. 130 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 5: So I mean, just having another year under his belt 131 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 5: is obviously going to do wonders for him. 132 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: So how does that actually show up on the field 133 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 3: some fans will notice or is it like pre snap 134 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 3: stuff where he's maybe he is an option of two 135 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 3: plays and he's picking the right one that fans don't 136 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: even know he's doing that, Like, where is that going 137 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 3: to show up? 138 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 4: Yeah? 139 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 5: I don't think the to the naked odd just a 140 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 5: regular fan will be able to notice. And I think 141 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 5: more so whenever he come in and watch the tape 142 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 5: and you're just like, Okay, this guy made the right 143 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 5: read right here. I didn't even think he was going 144 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 5: to make this kind of read, but it was the 145 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 5: right read. And defense might be showing you one thing 146 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 5: and you get a whole different other and you got 147 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 5: to make or read the. 148 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 4: Whole other opposite side of the field. So I definitely 149 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 4: think he's doing a really good job right now. 150 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: Though now I feel like you kind of got going 151 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 3: last year right coming back when Tommy slid. I'm sure 152 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 3: some of that was coincidence, just with your feeling healthier 153 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 3: and it kind of came in there together. But does 154 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 3: that give you a little bit more confidence now with 155 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 3: him sluttinger that you guys have a good report? 156 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, no doubt. And I mean it's nice knowing 157 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 5: he's one of those type of quarterbacks. It's like, hey, 158 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 5: certain plays, I know you're getting mad, I'm coming to you, 159 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 5: and so it's just it's stuff like that. With that 160 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 5: you have real confidence in your quarterback, and it's like, 161 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 5: I got to go out here and get open for 162 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 5: this guy, and you know, scrambled plays he's he might 163 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 5: just give you a chance down the field, just go 164 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 5: make a place. 165 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 4: So no, Tommy's Tommy's doing it. 166 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 3: I know, it's just the spring and there's no pads, 167 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 3: and a lot of it is install its basic stuff. 168 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 3: But the fact that Daniel still rehabing in the spring 169 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 3: and him and Drew were splitting reps with the ones, 170 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 3: is that going to have a meaningful impact in your 171 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 3: opinion on his ability to slide in there and having 172 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 3: some more chemistry with you, Darius Malik and the rest 173 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 3: of the first team guys on offense. 174 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely. I mean I think no matter when you 175 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 5: got the reps she as long as you were getting them, 176 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 5: it's going to be a lot easier to get accustomed 177 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 5: to it. And obviously, me, Sleigh and Jalen having Tommy 178 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 5: for however many games last year was going to be 179 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 5: a big help for us because obviously now games can 180 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 5: go and how he's going to be in games and 181 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 5: things like that, and I mean it's been good for 182 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 5: us in practice, and it was really good for us 183 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 5: in our case as well. 184 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 3: I know the media has written a lot about it, 185 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 3: and a lot of that's conjecture, but when I stepped 186 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 3: into the locker room on Wednesday, and Tommy did a 187 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,679 Speaker 3: little press thing and the thing everyone's loud, they're laughing, 188 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 3: they're yelling like. This doesn't seem like it down trodden 189 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 3: locker room. To me, it seems like you guys are 190 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: rallying a little bit. 191 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 4: No. 192 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 5: I mean, the reality of it is, we we know 193 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 5: we shouldn't be what our record says, so we feel 194 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 5: great going into a lot of games knowing that we 195 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 5: have an opportunity to win and go out and showcase 196 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 5: what we can do. You know, just each and every week, 197 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 5: we just got to go out there and prove it. 198 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 5: We're not down and out about it, so I mean, 199 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 5: we're still having fun. We're all loving up on each 200 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 5: other in the locker room, and we still care for 201 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 5: one another. So it's not like we're going to be 202 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 5: just down and out now. 203 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 3: I happen to agree with you, and I have my 204 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 3: reasons why I think you guys shouldn't be twoeing it either. 205 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 3: But for a player that's in the lockerman on the field, 206 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 3: why don't you think you guys should be too in it? 207 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 3: Why do you think you're better than what your record 208 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 3: might show. 209 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 5: A lot of the games we've given away, it hasn't 210 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 5: been a lot of what the other team has done. 211 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 5: It's been more so what we didn't do and the 212 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 5: one little play there, one little play here and there, 213 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 5: and so it's just like it's literally like a sum 214 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 5: of probably ten plays that we could change our change 215 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 5: our record and be completely turned around. But obviously the 216 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 5: passes in the past and got to keep moving forward, 217 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 5: and that's the only reason we can continue to get 218 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 5: better and just go out and showcase what we can 219 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 5: do and just continue to get wins. 220 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, one and five and one score games, and knowing 221 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 3: that Bengal game and it'll be a ten point loss, 222 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 3: but that was a one score game the entire time too, 223 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 3: So it's really more like one and six, right, So 224 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 3: I'm with you on that. A big part of that 225 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 3: is red zone, right, and not just scoring touchdowns in 226 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 3: the red zone. You guys, almost thirty percent of your 227 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 3: red zone appearances, you've scored zero points. Right, You've had 228 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 3: seven red zone turnovers. 229 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 4: How do you. 230 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 3: Turn that part around? Because to your point, in the 231 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 3: red zone, a couple of players here or there, a 232 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 3: couple of field goals. However you want to look at it, 233 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 3: some of these one score games could go a lot different, 234 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 3: So what can get better in the red zone to 235 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 3: just get more points on the board to match maybe 236 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 3: some of your other offensive metrics. 237 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 5: Definitely just locking in on all details, especially whenever we 238 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 5: get down there, just hounting in even more than what 239 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 5: we had already done to get down there or whatever 240 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 5: it was that we may have done. And then obviously 241 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 5: just taking care of the ball, whether that's as a runner, 242 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 5: not fumbling, doubling in trouble, like we call it, putting 243 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 5: both hands covering the ball. 244 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 4: You know, this is. 245 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 5: Especially with this team that we're going to be going against. 246 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 5: They like to go after the ball, and obviously you 247 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 5: want to do your best to do what you can 248 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 5: to get open for the quarterback. And obviously we hope 249 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 5: that they make the right choices back there as well. 250 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 5: And so I think we get all those things covered 251 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 5: up and we'll be scorn points. 252 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 3: When you would a chance to take the twenty thousand 253 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 3: look at the team at the buy when you're kind 254 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 3: of chilling at home and just relaxing, what are some 255 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 3: of the things that came to mind for you, And 256 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 3: even when you got back with your coaches and your 257 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 3: meetings Monday and Tuesday. That aside from the redsue stuff 258 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 3: which already touched on, that you think would be some 259 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 3: of the maybe easy is the wrong word, but some 260 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 3: of the you know, easier things to pinpoint that you 261 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 3: can say, all right, if we turn these couple things around, 262 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 3: we can make the second half of the year a 263 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 3: lot better than the first half. 264 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 5: I know, from a receiver standpoint, we want some more explosives, 265 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 5: just having shorter drives. Let's have a couple three four 266 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 5: play drives rather than some ten play drives. 267 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 3: So you guys lead the league at average driving, that's yeah, so. 268 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 5: We want to As for us, we want to hit 269 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 5: a couple more big plays just to give our old 270 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 5: line some more breadth and more breathing room and then 271 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 5: even allow our defense. I feel like even with explosives, 272 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 5: our defense kind of gets excited with those and it 273 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 5: kind of allows them to go out there and play 274 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 5: better as well. 275 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 3: What can the wide receiver unit as a group, and 276 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 3: I know you guys are on the drugs machines all 277 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 3: the time to try to clean up some of those 278 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 3: passes that I'm sure you think you should have came 279 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 3: up with, but especially in critical spots. As a group. 280 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 3: Maybe you guys have to come up with some of 281 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 3: the balls you think you should have. 282 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's just catching the ball, looking it 283 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 5: all the way in, not trying to do too much. 284 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 5: Feel like we're also we feel like we're also dynamic 285 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 5: with the ball in our hands. We try to do 286 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 5: a lot after sometimes before we make sure we securely 287 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 5: catch got to catch it first, right, Yeah, I know, especially, 288 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 5: I know that's one thing for me. I definitely was 289 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 5: trying to harp on myself with was licking it all 290 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 5: the way in and working on my catch mechanics and 291 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 5: things like that with my training back at home, but 292 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 5: just definitely doing a lot of different things just to make. 293 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 4: Sure that we're right there on top of everything. 294 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 3: So for you, why do you think your season's gone 295 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 3: so far? I know you're very excited about this year. 296 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 3: We talked in the offseason, you know, first year where 297 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 3: you're not rehabbing, you're not a rookie. It's like a 298 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 3: real off season. You can actually get ready for the 299 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 3: season the right way. How do you think the season's 300 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 3: gone for you? 301 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 5: I feel like season's gone all right. Obviously, feel like 302 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 5: there were some things out there that I wish I 303 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 5: had back, but I really feel like for this final half, 304 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 5: the final half of the year, you can really go 305 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 5: out there and showcase what I really can do. And 306 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 5: looking forward to getting on the field a little bit 307 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 5: more and just continue to get open. 308 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 3: Do you feel yourself still improving as an athlete as 309 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 3: you get off of further away from the injury, are 310 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 3: you still you think accelerating? 311 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, no question. 312 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 5: I mean there's still some movements out there that I 313 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 5: may not be comfortable doing because I hadn't done it before, 314 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 5: and some things I might see on tape, and it's 315 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 5: just kind of like, okay, week by week, it's each 316 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 5: each week is getting better whatever I can or can't do. 317 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 5: So definitely filling speed and exposedly this all the way 318 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 5: back and just making sure that I'm always there. 319 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 4: They'reing good with my routes. 320 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: So one question we get from fans a lot, I 321 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 3: like to get your answer to it. They say, I 322 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 3: don't understand why do the Giants on like a third 323 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 3: and seventh or five yard pass in front of the sticks. 324 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 3: But I try to explain, Look, those players are designed 325 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 3: to create separation to get yack after the playing, So 326 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 3: explain from an x's and o's inside the room receiver 327 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 3: football standpoint. Why fans should not be driven nuts by 328 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 3: seeing that five yard catch on third and seven. 329 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 5: Well, obviously, there's sometimes there might be a route that's 330 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 5: behind George where you can't get enough debt, where your 331 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 5: depth is kind of limited to a certain point, like 332 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 5: for that Carolina game, I was kind of limited to 333 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 5: how deep I could get when the dB. 334 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 4: Broke the ball up. 335 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 5: But and then some of the options routes as well, 336 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 5: you know, you're kind of working your man and then 337 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 5: whenever you break open your that's kind of what those 338 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 5: routes are. Kind of catch and run and good ball 339 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 5: placement and allow you to do things after the catch 340 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 5: with it. So usually if whenever you catch a five 341 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 5: out option, you should definitely be able to get some 342 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 5: more after as long as you have some good ball placement. 343 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 3: All right, Mollie Davers, how is he handled kind of 344 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 3: all the ups and downs of this year just for 345 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 3: the team. I'm sure he's never probably lost this many 346 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 3: games in the season in his life. That's tough, you know, 347 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 3: he said, between the percussions some of the drops for 348 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 3: him too. How is he handled all of this as 349 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 3: a rookie in the NFL, which I'm sure can't be easy. 350 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, especially for him. I mean, he's handled 351 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 5: like a pro. I can't imagine you're thrown into the fire, 352 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 5: number six pick and you get drafted to the New 353 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 5: York media and obviously some of the things that have 354 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 5: happened that we're unfortunate, and he's made too many plays 355 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 5: for him to keep his head down and do well 356 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 5: on those. But he's handled like a pro. He's coming 357 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 5: in each and every week trying to get better. Whatever 358 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 5: he can do to help us out, help any of 359 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 5: his other teammates out, he's going to do so. 360 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 3: Do you still see his ceiling and what he does 361 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 3: in practice and it's sky high? 362 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no doubt. 363 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 5: There's definitely usually a player to today it's just kind 364 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 5: of like, damn, what the heck do this? And so no, 365 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 5: he's he's definitely special and he's a really good dude 366 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 5: as well, even whenever it comes off the football. 367 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 3: Do you think Hyatt's ability to get more involved in 368 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 3: Munich might be a little bit of a preview of 369 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 3: things to come for the rest of the. 370 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 4: Year, Yeah, no doubt. 371 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 5: I mean, obviously, just continue to work in practice and 372 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 5: show showcase what you can do there, and whenevery opportunity 373 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 5: is come in the game, you got to make the 374 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 5: most of them. So I feel like what he did 375 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 5: against the Panthers was really good and felt like the 376 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 5: coaches really liked what he did. 377 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 4: So hopefully seeing him more out there. 378 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 3: All right, go want to talk to you real quickly 379 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 3: about the box. Does a game like this gets you 380 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 3: excited for a team that blitzes so much in plays 381 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 3: Man's that you have a chance to get some of 382 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 3: those one one opportunities? 383 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 4: For sure? 384 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 5: I definitely like teams the pressure and then whenever they 385 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 5: are impressing, it's just a lot of his own So 386 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 5: I feel like I can read zone coveragees pretty well 387 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 5: as well. So yeah, I'm definitely definitely excited. 388 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 3: What are some of the keys for an offense to 389 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 3: do well against the team that brings pressures often as 390 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 3: they do well? 391 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 5: One, you just got to communicate, especially for those guys 392 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 5: up fronting in the backs, and whenever we are throwing 393 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 5: the ball, communicating and sorting out the pressures and things 394 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 5: like that. And then for us, it's making sure that 395 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 5: we're on our landmarks and being where we're supposed to 396 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 5: be on time obviously because they got that's coming up. 397 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 3: And then finally, what do you see from their secondary 398 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 3: and ol Jamill Dean might be back this week, one 399 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 3: of the better corners. What do you see from him? 400 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 3: And the kind of the rest of their defensive back 401 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 3: to Lantin Winfields obviously a tremendous player. 402 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, they're they're really good. Back In played against 403 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 5: Winfield my freshman year of college, so got a little 404 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 5: bit of history with him. But I mean, the corners 405 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 5: are an athletic group. Nicholas physical guy, so we're excited 406 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 5: to go against those guys. 407 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 4: But definitely gotta come ready. 408 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 3: Good stuf, appreciate it this sir, Thank you. 409 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 2: Huddle up, get in here. 410 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 3: If you're lined up here, you gotta go over the 411 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 3: middle with at the score great? 412 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 5: How do we make that happen? 413 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, Bud Citizens? 414 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 4: Does it makes sense of your money? 415 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: With Citizens, Official Bank of Eli Manning. 416 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 3: John Total Podcast is brought to you by Citizens, the 417 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 3: official bank of the Giants. 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Scott. 428 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: Your season's going a little bit better than the Giants, 429 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 3: though you're dealing with the losing streak of your How 430 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 3: you doing today, man? 431 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: Doing good? Just waiting for one of these teams to 432 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: win a game five losing or five game losing streak 433 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: for the Giants, four game losing streak for the Bucks. 434 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: I think something's got to give. We don't want to 435 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: see this game in in a tie. 436 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 437 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And you know, I'll get to the specifics and 438 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 3: the injuries in a second. But both these teams have 439 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 3: had a similar issue where they've played a ton of 440 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 3: closed games here but they just haven't been able to 441 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 3: close them out at the end. 442 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're right, and it really it's it's Todd 443 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: Bowles defense. That's been the culprit. You go back to 444 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: the overtime losses at Atlanta and at Kansas City, and 445 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: then most recently right before the bye week losing twenty 446 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: three to twenty to the forty nine ers. Ti Bowles 447 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: defense was on the field on all three of those 448 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: games and allowed the game winning score, whether it's field 449 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: goal or touchdowns, and that's really been frustrating because he's 450 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: a defensive mind to head coach, helped this team win 451 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: his Super Bowl in twenty twenty, and it just has 452 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: not found the right buttons to push this year. Tampa 453 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: Bays pass defense is terrible. They're scoring defense is bad. 454 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: They have not even stopped the run exceptionally well, so 455 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 1: they're searching for answers and the pass rush has not 456 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: really gotten home. This team has not picked off a 457 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: pass since Week six when they when they had an 458 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: interception or two against Spencer Rattler in New Orleans. So 459 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to really rebound. And this should be 460 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: a get well game for Todd Bowles defense given the 461 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: fact that the Giants struggle to score points. But Todd 462 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: Bowles has also made unheralded quarterbacks look formidable and that 463 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: might be the case with Tommy Debato. 464 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 3: All right, so let me follow up before we get 465 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 3: to the injuries. Then, why do you think the defense 466 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 3: is having so many issues? I know the Bucks have 467 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 3: lost some guys personal wise, we could talk about the 468 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 3: cornerback position. Obviously, Jamal Dean might be back this week, 469 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 3: but you still have Vitavey upfront. 470 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 2: I know you don't have the edge rushers it used 471 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 2: to have. 472 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 3: But Todd Bowles's system is fairly proven, right, It's been 473 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 3: good in this league for a good amount of time. 474 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,239 Speaker 3: So why do you think the defense has struggled as 475 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 3: much as it has? 476 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know that he's adapted too much. He 477 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: runs some quarters, he'll play that that cover three fire 478 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: zone defense, and it's you know, these aren't These aren't 479 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 1: new defensive schemes the area. These are defensive schemes that 480 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: have been around, and you have to evolve in the NFL. 481 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: It's adapter die and we've seen offenses evolve, and we've 482 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: seen some defenses of all. But I don't know that 483 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: there's been an evolution here. I think Todd has stuck 484 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: to what he's done so much that it's it's kind 485 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: of detrimental now. Plus on top of that, you pay 486 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: a playmaker like Antoine Winfield Junior, who might have had 487 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: the best defensive season of any defender in the league 488 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: last year. We're talking over one hundred and twenty tackles, 489 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: three interceptions, six sacks, six forced fumbles, four fumble recoveries, 490 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: a herculean type year. And he does have a scooping 491 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: score this year, but has not been involved in any 492 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: other turnovers. And he's missed four games due to injury. 493 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: You mentioned injuries that that's been part of the reason 494 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: why this defense has been so disjointed. Jimmel Dean's missed 495 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: four games earlier in the season, Winfield missed four games. 496 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: They lost for Vassi A. Dennis, their best coverage linebacker 497 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 1: in Week four to a season ending shoulder injury. He 498 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: was really the best linebacker on the team. And they 499 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: just have not had that pass rush. So it's really 500 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: been a struggle for Todd Bowles to press the right 501 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: buttons to get this defense going. But you know, his 502 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: playmakers have not made plays this year, the guys that 503 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: he's counted on to, and they're still searching for answers 504 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: coming out of the bye week. 505 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 2: It's funny you mentioned the Bucks no picks since Week six. 506 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 3: You said the Giants haven't had one since Week one 507 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 3: against Sam Darnold, and that was a deflection that got 508 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 3: picked off by a rookie linebacker, Darius Mussau. So there's 509 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 3: second there doesn't have an interception since week one, which 510 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 3: is you know, eventually a quarterback should probably just airmail 511 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 3: one and it should go right to your safety, right, 512 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 3: especially when you're second in the league in sacks, But 513 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 3: for some reason that hasn't really happened yet this year 514 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 3: for the Giants. Jameel Dean, how much can he maybe 515 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 3: impact what the Bucks are going to do with their 516 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 3: pressure rates and their boots packages. They obviously need guys 517 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 3: to cover one on one and oh, Dean does have 518 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 3: the traits of a guy that you know, you could 519 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 3: probably put out there on elite neighbors and feel like 520 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 3: he's going to be able to hold his own a 521 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 3: little bit. 522 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. And at the same time, though he's coming back 523 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 1: when the team might be with that Zion McCollum, who 524 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: might be a game time decision. So Todd Bowles would 525 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: love to have both of the starting corners out there 526 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: because the times that that has not happened. And when 527 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 1: he said one starter Zion McCollum, he can shut down guys, 528 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: but not having that other guy presents some target opportunities, 529 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 1: you know, and Mylik Neighbors has proven to be a 530 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: dangerous guy. I don't think we've seen the best of 531 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: him yet because he does have that four to three 532 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: five speed and has not really stretched the field as 533 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: often as as the Giants would have liked, you know, 534 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,479 Speaker 1: a ten yard receiving average, longest play thirty nine yards. 535 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: But maybe this is the game where he has put 536 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: up against the opposite cornerback from Jamel d and whether 537 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: it's Josh Hayes or the newcomer Troy Hill, and really 538 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: has some opportunities down the field if Tommy Debido can 539 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: push the ball down the field. So, you know, it 540 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: concerns me because again Todd Bowles, there have been some 541 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: games where if you look at bo Nixon's coming out party, 542 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: it was against Todd Bowles defense, you know, back in 543 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: Week three where Nicks had thrown four interceptions and no 544 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: touchdowns and had a complete role reversal and played like 545 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: he's playing now. And that started in Tampa Bay. So 546 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: Tommy Debido can hurt you scrambling and also extending plays 547 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: with his mobility, and they're going to have to plaster 548 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: these giants receivers, whether it's Slayton, whether it's you know, 549 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: Windale Robinson or Elik Neighbors. 550 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you mentioned the big play stuff. 551 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 3: Neighbors has not had a twenty yard reception since he 552 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 3: returned from that concussion four weeks ago. 553 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 2: So the big plays. 554 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,719 Speaker 3: He's got a lot of targets, a lot of catches, 555 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 3: but the big plays have not been there in the 556 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 3: last month or so football for him. Final one of 557 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 3: the defense, how about the run defense. You know, Vidavan, 558 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 3: we know what a great player he's been. Is he 559 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 3: still playing at that level on a down in, down 560 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 3: out basis or is that one of the issues they're 561 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 3: having with the run defense. 562 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the defensive tackles have played exceptionally well. 563 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: I think Vita had a fantastic game at Kansas City. 564 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: Ten tackles, two sacks on Patrick Mahomes. Elijah Cansey, the 565 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: other defensive tackle last year's first round pick. He had 566 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: a pair of sacks against Mahomes as well in Kansas City. 567 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 1: He's come on He's got four sacks in the last 568 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: five games since he's returned from a calf injury that 569 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: cost them the first part of the season. So the 570 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: defensive tackle position is not a problem. Even Logan Hall, 571 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: they're kind of disappointing former top pick. He's got three 572 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: sacks on the season. So it's not the interior of 573 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: the defensive line. It's on the edges where they really 574 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: have struggled. And so maybe Tyrone Tracy today find some 575 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: success off tackle or getting to the outside. Tampa Bay's 576 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: linebackers not very fast. kJ Britz, pretty slow, Levonte David 577 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: slowing down at age thirty four. We've really seen that 578 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: that kind of fall off this year in his play 579 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: still get it done, but not that play maker that 580 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: he used to be. So Tyron Tracy I could see 581 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: with that five point one yard average having a pretty 582 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: decent day against Tampa Bay, and I think they'll lean 583 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: on the running game trying to get that going to 584 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 1: help Tommy DeVito and not put all the pressure on 585 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,239 Speaker 1: him to make plays. And then the other thing too 586 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: is Tampa Bay's not tackled well, so that's going to 587 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: lend itself when you've got a back that that has 588 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: some size of five two and ten pounds to break 589 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: some tackles. Shoot, they allowed Kirk Cousins, who's a statue 590 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: to run thirteen yards for a first down back in 591 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: Tampa in week was that Week nine or week ten? 592 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: And so you know they just they need to tackle 593 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: better and that that's not just Tyrone and Tracy, that's 594 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: also the yards past the line of scrimmage that DeVito 595 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: can get with his legs and scrambles. 596 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, with all the talk about Saquon Barkley Departy, the 597 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 3: Giants run game in tyroonn Tracy has probably be the 598 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 3: best part of their offense that really has not been 599 00:23:58,480 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 3: the problem ironically. 600 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the. 601 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 3: Bucks offense and Scott I think they've done an admirable 602 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 3: job keeping up moving the ball without Chris Godwin. Mike 603 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 3: Evans has been out, Tristan Wurfs has missed time, and 604 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 3: now you're starting to get some of those guys back. 605 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 3: So give me a status of for kind of where 606 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 3: we are overall with this Bucks offense and who we 607 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 3: might see on the field on Sunday. 608 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: Well, it looks like Mike Evans will play in this game. 609 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: That's good news because they've certainly missed having a credible 610 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: wide receiver out there. It's really been Kadot in a 611 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: tight end who's had to step up for Baker Mayfield. 612 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: And really a lot of credit goes to rookie offensive 613 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: play caller offensive coordinator Liam Cohen. He has done a 614 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: masterful job. When this team was at full strength through 615 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens game, they were averaging thirty points per 616 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: game and that was like up there in the top 617 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: three or four teams in the league. And since losing 618 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: both Mike Evans and Chris Godwin and Godwin's out for 619 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: the year at the dislocated ankle in that Ravens game, 620 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers still put up twenty four points on offense 621 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: against the Falcons and then twenty four points on the 622 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs in Arrowhead, And that's a much better 623 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: defense with Chris Jones and everybody up front. And then 624 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: they put up twenty points against again another stout defense 625 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: with the forty nine ers missed an opportunity or two 626 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: in the red zone for even more points. But the 627 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: fact that Liam Cohen has the creativity, the adaptability the 628 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: high football IQ to lean on the running game and 629 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: really involve Bucky Irving and Rashad White in the screen 630 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: game and in the passing game. It's allowed Baker Mayfield 631 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: to still move the ball, put up points, and keep 632 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: this team in games. The problem has not been on 633 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 1: the offensive side, even without Evans and Godwin. It's been 634 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: on the defensive side. So now you have Mike Evans back. 635 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: The concern in Tampa, though, is does Baker Mayfield try 636 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: to force the ball to him a little too much 637 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: just because he's back and he's been missed. I think 638 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: they that he has to let Evans's plays come to him. 639 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 1: But at the same time, this will free up some 640 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 1: things offensively for some other players. I think now you're 641 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: going to see coverages roll towards Evan's side, and that 642 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: should give more opportunities for single coverage against some of 643 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: these other targets that Tampa Bay has. 644 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 3: And have teams play two safeties back against the run game. Yeah, 645 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 3: I think you guys have really developed a really impressive 646 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 3: two headed mon So, you know, Rashad White is your 647 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 3: past receiver also kind of your you know, downhill power back. 648 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, while Bucky Irvin has you. 649 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 3: Know, it's funny I love this college tape, but I 650 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 3: kept saying to myself, he's like really small and not fast, 651 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 3: So how is he going to say? See in the 652 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 3: NFL and long and behold the tape held up. He's 653 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 3: been doing a good job. 654 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: He's been that guy. You know. He doesn't have like 655 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: the breakaway speed that Work Done had coming out of 656 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 1: Florida State back in ninety seven when he was like 657 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: rookie of the year and burst on the scene. You 658 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: had Mike al Stott and Work down the WD forty backfield. 659 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: But he runs like wark Done and the fact that 660 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: he's small, he's five nine, one hundred and ninety two 661 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: pounds a little bit heavier than Done was not as fast, 662 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: doesn't have the breakaway speed, but he's ripped off some 663 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: thirty yard runs because he's very elusive. His great vision, 664 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: has a very kind of instinctive running style that makes 665 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: the first guy miss gets to the second level with 666 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: the regularity, just is missing that extra gear to go 667 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: from the second level to the third level and take 668 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: a seventeen yard run and turn it into a seventy 669 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: yard run. He's not that guy, but he's very effective. 670 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: And the NFL, by and large is not a seventy 671 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: yard touchdown run league. That's in college. But if you 672 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: can rip off you know these five, six, seven, eight, ten, twelve, 673 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: fifteen yard runs like it works. And I think you 674 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: look at the at the top two rookie rushers in 675 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: the NFL. It's Tyrone Tracy right who has the title 676 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: right now, and a few yards behind him is Bucky Irping. 677 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: Both those guys are averaging five point one yards per carry, 678 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: and I think really at the end of this game, 679 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: the running back who has the most yards is probably 680 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 1: going to be on the winning team because both of 681 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: these teams are going to come in looking to run 682 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: to win this game. It's going to be a big 683 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: staple of the offense for both teams because the passing 684 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: game is not as robust without Chris Godwin as it 685 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: is in Tampa and Tommy DeVito's you know, going to 686 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: be playing for the first time this year. Really, so 687 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: I think that this will come down to whoever has 688 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: the better game between Tyrone Tracy and Bucky Irving probably 689 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: will be on the winning team. 690 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 3: Final question, I'll make it a two part before your 691 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 3: Scott Tristan Worf's were we with him in the Bucks 692 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 3: offensive line. And then part two of that is Baker 693 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 3: still a little bit reckless. I think it's too strong 694 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 3: of a word, but will He's still with his confident 695 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 3: way of playing. Put the ball into some areas and 696 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 3: give the defense a chance to make some plays on 697 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 3: the ball. 698 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: You know, he did that a little bit against the 699 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: Falcons without having Mike and Chris in the game. But 700 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: the last two games against the Chiefs and the forty 701 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: nine Ers, he's done a really good job of avoiding interceptions. Again, 702 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: the concern there is with Mike Evans back, is he 703 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: going to get a little too greedy and try to 704 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: force things in there make up for lost time with Mike. 705 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: That's something he has to safeguard himself against there. And 706 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: I think that he knows that the margin for error 707 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: for the Buccaneers is not great at all, Like this 708 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: will come down to whoever wins the turnover battle probably 709 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: wins the game. Matter of fact, the Buccaneers have actually 710 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: been plus one in the turnover margin over the last 711 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: two games against the Chiefs and the forty nine Ers 712 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: and still lost close games. So if Baker throws an 713 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: interception or two, they're not going to win this game, 714 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: and I think he realizes that. To Tristan Wurf's point, 715 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: the injury that he's sustained against the forty nine ers 716 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: was not as bad as it initially seemed. It's a 717 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: PCL sprain or I believe in it's an MCL sprain. 718 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: So he actually was practicing this week. I don't think 719 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: the team plays him. They're going to make sure when 720 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: he comes back, he's going to come back for good. 721 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: Justin School is the swing tackle and he got some 722 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: playing time against the forty nine ers last week. Gave 723 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: up a sack to Nick Bosa. Know there's no shame 724 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: in that Boas is one of the best pass rushers 725 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: in the league. But School started four games at right 726 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: tackle this year in place of Luke Gettikey and got 727 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: better every single week that he played, after a rough 728 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: outing in Detroit when he gave up three sacks to 729 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: Aiden Hutchinson. But the fact that he's played, I think 730 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: gives this team some confidence. But it's really going to 731 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: be decided in the trenches. When you look at at 732 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: the rookie Graham Barton the center against Dexter Lawrence, that 733 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: that's a key matchup to watch. But also to the 734 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: tackles Luke Gettikey on the right side, justin school that 735 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: backup tackle on the left side. Can they keep Brian 736 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: Burns and Azizo Gelai off of Baker Mayfield and let 737 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: him find Mike Evans and have enough time to find 738 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: him field. 739 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it looks like Keavon tib will be back 740 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 3: as well this week. And they better not just have 741 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 3: graam Bar and tried to block Dexter Lawrence by himself 742 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 3: because that does not does generally go well for anybody 743 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 3: that plays center or gordon the league. And I'll leave 744 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 3: it with this guy as we say goodbye. You mentioned 745 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 3: the turnover stuff for the box. Here's a stat you 746 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 3: can use on your stuff over the weekend. Okay, so 747 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 3: the Giants have played ten games this week this year. 748 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 3: They have not won the turnover battle in any game. 749 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 3: They've been either even or minus in every single game 750 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 3: this year. 751 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 4: Wow. 752 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 3: I had the folks over at Statsink look this up 753 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 3: for me. They have stats going back to nineteen fifty. 754 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 3: It is the longest single season streak in the history 755 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 3: of the New York Football Giants. 756 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: Wow. That's that's something. And unfortunately that speaks to the record. 757 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: You know you have to protect the ball to win 758 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: the game more often than not. And if you're not 759 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: winning the turnover battle, you know you're probably not winning 760 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: the games. 761 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, Giants are two and two in the games where 762 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 3: they've been even and they are zero to six in 763 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 3: the games that they've been negative. So they'll try to 764 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 3: break that streak this weekend. Scott, good stuff, by friend. 765 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 3: Tell the folks who they can find all your fantastic work. 766 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can check us out on Pewterreport dot com. 767 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: Well I have full bucks. Giants gain coverage and you 768 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: can follow us on social media on x, Facebook and 769 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: Instagram at Pewter Report. 770 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 2: Scott, good stuff. Man, have enjoyed the game on Sunday. 771 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 2: We'll talk to you soon. 772 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Thank you. 773 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 3: If you want to know how to manage two minutes 774 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 3: of crunch time football, I'm your man. 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Learn Moore at citizensbank dot com slash Giants. 785 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 3: Good stuff from Scott. We appreciate him joining us, getting 786 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 3: us all the insight we need on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Now, 787 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 3: let's turn to the head coach of the NYG, Brian Dable, 788 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 3: with the voice of the NYG, Bob Popo. 789 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 6: As always were joined by the head coach of the 790 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 6: New York Giants, Brian Dabel. Giants coming off the bike 791 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 6: coach obviously made the switch at quarterback that news broke 792 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 6: earlier this week. 793 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 2: How has the. 794 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 6: Team reacted and how has Tommy DeVito reacted to the 795 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 6: workload this week as far as getting ready for the 796 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 6: specific game. 797 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, Tommy's doing everything he can do to prepare himself 798 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 7: to play against a tough defense, a pressure defense, and 799 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 7: everybody else is trying to do the same thing. They're 800 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 7: trying to improve everything they can improve players, coaches, and 801 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 7: to get ready to play, to play a good game. 802 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 2: Coach. 803 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 6: Obviously, last year he got six starts for you and 804 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 6: he played well. For you in the preseason this year. 805 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 6: What areas of growth have you seen in him from 806 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 6: going year one as an undrafted rookie free agent to 807 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 6: year two over the NFL. 808 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 7: Well, he's been in the system for a year, and 809 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 7: I think experience helps. He's got to play, you know, 810 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 7: start six games last year and playing a couple other ones. 811 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 7: You know, time will tell in terms of him getting 812 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 7: out there and playing. And you know there's areas of 813 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 7: improvement that we've talked to him about and he's working 814 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 7: hard to improve. 815 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 6: On him all right. One of the things that's been 816 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 6: great for you guys is Tyrone Tracy and you know, 817 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 6: a combination of he and Devin Singletary and the entire 818 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 6: run game. Talk about the challenges that you're gonna have 819 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 6: to deal with today going against this Tampa Bay front 820 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 6: led by v to B. 821 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's the start of it. He's a he's 822 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 7: a tough man to block. You know, we're gonna have 823 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 7: to do a good job of getting a hat for 824 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 7: a hat and you know there'll be some some tough 825 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 7: yards in there. But you know, being able to run 826 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 7: the football has been good for us. It helps us 827 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 7: with everything else. Staying on track, minimizing some some third 828 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 7: down situations where they'd really like to get after the quarterback. 829 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 7: So it'll be an important part. It'll be it'll be 830 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 7: a tough challenge. They have a lot of good players, 831 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 7: you know, David's been a you know, historically a good 832 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 7: player Winfield via a Gabby has has really come on 833 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 7: here in his second year, and it'll be it'll be 834 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 7: a challenge, but something that you know, we're gonna have 835 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 7: to do a good job with. 836 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 6: Todd Bowles has always been about kind of bringing pressures 837 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 6: and they do it in a lot of different ways. 838 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 6: How important is it, you know, for communication? Obviously it's 839 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 6: a home game, so crowd noise shouldn't be a factor, 840 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 6: but being able to communicate because he's gonna give a 841 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 6: lot of different looks. As far as ways that he 842 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 6: likes to get to his pressure, Yeah, no question about it. 843 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 7: Todd's been doing it for a long time. You know, 844 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 7: worked with him back in twenty eleven. He's been successful 845 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 7: at doing it. He gives you a variety of looks. 846 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 7: They're challenging. You know, it was a long bye week, 847 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 7: long week getting ready for him because of the looks 848 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 7: that they present and We're gonna have to do a 849 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 7: good job of communicating the center position, the quarterback position, 850 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 7: all the linemen tied in together. You know, it'll be 851 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 7: important to try to stay out of those situations as well, 852 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 7: you know, the second and longs, the third and lungs 853 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 7: where you know, there's a variety of them and it 854 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:43,439 Speaker 7: requires a tremendous amount of detail communication to be able 855 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 7: to operate. You know, you see so many games that 856 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 7: they've played and there's a lot of free runners on 857 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 7: the quarterback in the past game or in the run game. 858 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 7: So we're all gonna have to be tied in. That'll 859 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 7: be a huge element to this game. 860 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 6: Go to the other side of the ball. Baker Mayfield 861 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,439 Speaker 6: in year number two with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, he's 862 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 6: accounted for the third most touchdowns of any quarterback in 863 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 6: the NFL Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, and then Baker Mayfield's 864 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 6: accounted for twenty six twenty four passing two running. You know, 865 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 6: he's a gunslinger. We saw the play that he had 866 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 6: against San Francisco where he's you know, basically stiff arming 867 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 6: a defensive lineman and still getting the completion out of it. 868 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 6: What is it about Baker that creates such a burden 869 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 6: and pressure on a defense. 870 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 7: Yeah, he's a very smart player. Had an opportunity to 871 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 7: meet Baker back in twenty eighteen when we looked at quarterbacks. 872 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:46,280 Speaker 7: He's strong, he's accurate, he's a competitor. He's a fiery competitor, 873 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 7: I would say, a leader. He's not afraid to pull 874 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 7: the trigger. He plays with good timing. Players rally around him. 875 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 7: You can see the leadership that he has. And you know, 876 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 7: he's done a nice job job here at Tampa Bay, 877 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,879 Speaker 7: and he's had his own journey, and you know when 878 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 7: we evaluate him and worked him out and got to 879 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 7: meet him, was a big fan of him then, and 880 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,240 Speaker 7: you know he's had his own journey in the NFL 881 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 7: and he's really doing a nice job here with Tampa. 882 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 6: Someone that you know and that I know well, Charlie 883 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 6: Weiss was a big fan of Baker, and he always 884 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 6: said he's like a pied piper. He's a natural leader 885 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 6: and teammates gravitate toward him. Do you see that when 886 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 6: you watch the film of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, that 887 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 6: he is sort of that central figure in kind of 888 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 6: rallying the team. 889 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely. You know saw that back in twenty eighteen. 890 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 7: You know, he's you know, he's got a good way 891 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 7: about himself in terms of how he plays and bringing 892 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 7: people along with him, giving guys opportunities to make plays, 893 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 7: and he trusts what he sees, he lets it rip, 894 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 7: and he plays with a very aggressive mindset, whether he's 895 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 7: throwing the ball or at times running with the football. 896 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 6: Speaking of running, they have two backs that bring a 897 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 6: little different styles, but they can bring a level of 898 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 6: physicality that's pretty impressive. Talk about White and Irving and 899 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:18,280 Speaker 6: the challenges that they put against the defense because they 900 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,919 Speaker 6: both can catch the ball out of the backfield, they 901 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 6: make explosive plays. What are some of the things that 902 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 6: make them unique and that will be difficult for your 903 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 6: defense to deal with today. 904 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'd say they both have great contact, balance, vision, 905 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 7: open field running, all the things that good running backs have, 906 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 7: and they do it at a high level. They got 907 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 7: good speed, short space quickness, make a yards when they 908 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 7: get the ball in their hand. That's the most important 909 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 7: thing for a running back, and both of them do 910 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 7: that well. 911 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 6: Coach, obviously, they lost Godwin who's a good vertical threat, 912 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 6: and Mike Evans is coming off a hamstring injury. When 913 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 6: you look at Evans, I mean he's got the streak 914 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 6: of a thousand yard receiving years in a row, and 915 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 6: he's really good with contested balls. When you're dealing with 916 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 6: a guy like a Mike Evans is something that have 917 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,280 Speaker 6: to be reminded of your players, is like, at any moment, 918 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,320 Speaker 6: the ball's coming and the play's never over with him. 919 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, one of the better receivers to ever 920 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 7: do it. Impressive career. He's very instinctive player. He's got 921 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 7: unbelievable hands, catch radius. They'll move him in spots and 922 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 7: you know, the closer you get to the goal line, 923 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,479 Speaker 7: the more he even shows up. And you know, even 924 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 7: when he's covered at times he's not covered because of 925 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,359 Speaker 7: his ball skills and his ability to adjust and make 926 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 7: plays on contested catches. Fantastic player. 927 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 6: And just finally, Sterling Shepherd, obviously a long time Giant, 928 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 6: is with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He's had some success 929 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 6: here this year. You had a chance to coach him 930 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 6: for two years. He was a fantastic player for this franchise. 931 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,800 Speaker 6: What was it like coaching coaching a guy I like Shephard? 932 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, A lot of energy. Competitive, competitive person, you know, 933 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 7: very smart, instinctive receiver, knows how to set up guys 934 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 7: and routes and he's been doing it for a long 935 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:13,839 Speaker 7: time too, and he's doing a nice job down there 936 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 7: as well. 937 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 6: Coach, we appreciate a couple of minutes. Thanks for the time, 938 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 6: and we'll turn it around on a short week on 939 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 6: Thursday in Dallas. 940 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 7: Thanks Bob. 941 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 6: That's the head coach of the New York Giants, Brian Dable. 942 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 2: We thank Bob. We thank Coach Dable. 943 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 3: Thanks Scott Reynolds and Wandol Robinson and joining us on 944 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 3: this Frodday edition of the Giants lital Podcast presented by Citizens, 945 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 3: the official. 946 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 2: Bank of the Giants. Thanks for being with us. Everybody 947 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:35,840 Speaker 2: enjoyed the game this weekend.