1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Third hour of play and Buck kicks off right now. Everybody, 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here with us. As 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: we know, some big developments going on around the world 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: and here at home President Trump overseas for a NATO 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: summit and going through some of the more important things 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: on the national security front there. Of course, the President 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: very much wants our NATO allies to meet their financial 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: contribution thresholds. 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: Which almost none of them. 10 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: I think a couple of them maybe have stepped it up, 11 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: but very few of them were making those kinds of 12 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: contributions to their own defense. 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: Mind you. This is about spending a portion. 14 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: Of GDP, of their GDP on their own ability to 15 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: contribute to NATO and therefore to the defense of these 16 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: individual nations. 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: And so that's a big part of this. 18 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: But this was interesting. I think you're gonna see some 19 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: memes about this. One at the Hague Clay in the Netherlands. 20 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: This is clip six. The NATO chief do you see 21 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: this refer to Trump as daddy play six. 22 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 3: They fought like hell and then they said let's stop, 23 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 3: and they're gonna build themselves. And I really see it 24 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 3: as sticking. I mean, we may do papers on it. 25 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 4: Marco. 26 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: Maybe we're going to do papers. 27 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 4: I don't even know if you need them. 28 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: They're not gonna be fighting each other. 29 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 4: They've had it. 30 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 3: They've got a big fight, like two kids at a 31 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 3: school yard. You know, they fight like hell. You can't 32 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 3: stop them. Let them fight for about two or three minutes. 33 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 3: Then it's easy to stop them. 34 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 4: And sometimes languages strong. 35 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 3: Everyone said, all you have to use a certain word. 36 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 2: I mean he kind of was Afrain. I would say, 37 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 2: called Trump daddy. 38 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: That's what report is a little more of like he's 39 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: playing along with the analogy there. But here, here's another moment. 40 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: Here's Lithuanian, the Lithuanian president. I'm not even gonna pretend 41 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: that I know how to say his name. This is 42 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: cut seven, who has a new NATO motto that he 43 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: wanted to discuss play it. 44 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 5: I think we should choose the motto make NATO great again. 45 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 5: I would like to send my gratitude to President Donald Trump, 46 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 5: because that's out his engagement. I can imagine that would 47 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 5: discuss probably the level of two point five percent, with 48 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 5: no clear outcome and positive outcome. Probably those discussions will 49 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 5: lead to nothing. 50 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: So Clay Trump's mark on NATO is very clear. I 51 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: remember in the first term there were a lot of 52 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: people whose objection was that they said that Trump was 53 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: going to destroy NATO and he was so horrible for it. 54 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: And I got the. 55 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: Whole North Atlantic Treaty organization mobilizing to spend more, to 56 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: prepare more, to be able to defend more. And Trump 57 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: has been a huge part of that shift, really the 58 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: leader of that shift. 59 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 6: Yeah. 60 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 7: Look, there was a decision made that the United States 61 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 7: was going to protect the rest of the world, and 62 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 7: so the rest of the world didn't have any obligation 63 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 7: to have substantial military assets. I mean, this is certainly 64 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,119 Speaker 7: the case with Canada, which basically has no military because 65 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 7: they are freeloading on the fact that they feel as 66 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 7: if the United States will protect them no matter what. 67 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 6: And that's true. 68 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 7: Look at Canada's military spending, look at the number of 69 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 7: people that they. 70 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 6: Have in uniform. 71 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 7: They are effectively of the opinion that they have no 72 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 7: danger because they happened to border the United States, and 73 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 7: there was that belief in many of the NATO countries 74 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 7: that to build on the analogy that was being made there, 75 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 7: Trump and the United States was the daddy of Europe, 76 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 7: and they didn't have to spend money on any of 77 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 7: their own defense because the United States had their back. 78 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 7: And that's something that frankly, a lot of American leadership 79 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 7: has wanted to foster for some period of time to 80 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 7: allow that to sort of become ingrained. And Trump said, 81 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 7: why would we continue to be the world's policemen? Would 82 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 7: we continue to be effectively your security guards? And you're 83 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 7: going to have to spend money and that seems totally rational. 84 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 7: I got a question for you also coming out of this, 85 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 7: this news has just broken recently. This is you know, 86 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 7: with your intelligence background, should there be an investigation on 87 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 7: the leaking of this high level intelligence sort of an 88 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,679 Speaker 7: opinion that was given to CNN and the New York Times? 89 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 7: Is that worthwhile? Is that useful? Should it be something 90 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 7: that was not published in those newspapers? Based on your background? 91 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: The leak investigation is always such a hotly contested and 92 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: charged issue, and you can tell based on whether people 93 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: think that the person is a quote whistleblower or a leaker, right, 94 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: That's one that's always the way those terms are used 95 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: is very much whom or what I like and whom 96 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: and what I don't like. So I think that's a 97 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,799 Speaker 1: big piece of it. I think that in this case, 98 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: you know, the thing about leaks, there's leaks that damage 99 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: sources and methods that can put lives and national security 100 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: at risks, and there's leaks that are more political in nature. 101 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: To talk about the damage done to the nuclear facilities, 102 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: though this is this is and relying on classified sources 103 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: to do it and telling the media and trying to 104 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: shape a narrative. You know, you are breaking your oath 105 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: to protect classified information, right, So this isn't you know? 106 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 2: There are always are. 107 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: Judgment calls about this kind of stuff, like is this 108 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: someone sharing their opinion about whether something's a good idea? 109 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: I mean that's generally not something that is a national 110 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: security risk are classified. 111 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: But if you're sharing an opinion based on information very 112 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: clearly that is derived from classified sources and that is 113 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: against regulations, you shouldn't be doing it. And no one 114 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: person in the Defense Intelligence Agency should think that he 115 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: or she should be trying to shape US foreign policy 116 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: by using the media as attack dogs against Trump based 117 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: off of classified sources. 118 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 2: Right. 119 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: That's so that's a long way of saying, yeah, I 120 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: think they should try to chase down this leak, the 121 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 1: person should at a minimum be fired. It's very hard 122 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: to find leakers, very hard to prove that someone is 123 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: a leaker. So you know, we still don't know who 124 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: gave the Supreme Court the Dobbins Court, so, you know, 125 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: just to give you a sense of it, yeah, I 126 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: can say we should find the leaker, but it's very 127 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: hard to do. 128 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 7: And that's a good point because there's only roughly one 129 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 7: hundred people and that may be too many who could 130 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 7: have ever leaked that information in the Supreme Court. How 131 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 7: many people do you think? And that's the of course, 132 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 7: the Dobbs decision coming out before the Dobbs decision was released, 133 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 7: which thankfully didn't get Brett Kavanaugh assassinated, but did provoke 134 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 7: the motive of until the opinion is published, if you 135 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 7: kill a member of the Supreme Court, it's scary, then 136 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 7: the opinion doesn't go into effect. And Biden would have 137 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 7: had the opportunity because he could trolled the Senate at 138 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 7: the time to replace Brett Kavanaugh and theoretically preserve Roe v. 139 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 6: Wade. 140 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 7: That was the logic behind why all this was leaked. 141 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 7: I believe, in addition to putting pressure on people to 142 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 7: change their opinions. 143 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 6: Let me ask you this, how many. 144 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 7: People do you think would have had the ability to 145 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 7: know and see this report? In other words, when you 146 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 7: conduct an investigation, the first thing you have to figure 147 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 7: is how many people had eyes on it? How many 148 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 7: people had the ability to contact the New York Times 149 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,679 Speaker 7: CNN with a report like this. Is it one hundred, 150 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 7: is it a thousand? How many people out there do 151 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 7: you think would have seen this report to the extent 152 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 7: that it is accurate that they have conveyed on that report, 153 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 7: Because that tells you how hard it is to track 154 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 7: somebody down just based on how many eyeballs are on it. 155 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's very tough to know. 156 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: And remember there's going to be a lot of different 157 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: cables coming in and out damage assessments that are on 158 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: the classified channels, and so you know, this is where 159 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: you get into more of a mosaic theory of what 160 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: how specific was the information and how much of this 161 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: was someone getting from one report versus another and without 162 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: I obviously have no access to any of this stuff, 163 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: so I can't. 164 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 6: Speak to. 165 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: The specificity that was leaked, and that that obviously would 166 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: go toward how easy it would be to catch somebody, 167 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: if they get very clear details that could only come 168 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: from a really small, like eyes only sort of report, 169 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: then it's much more likely you're gonna be able to 170 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: find out who is involved in the leak. The big 171 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: thing to do is usually you just pull somebody's cell 172 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 1: phone records and emails stuff, and then you see them 173 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: talking to New York Times reporter and now people get 174 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: very you know, depending again depending on who's doing it, 175 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: and the First Amendment starts to get a lot of attention, 176 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: and people talk about the right of the public to know, 177 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: and this stuff can get messy quickly. 178 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: So but on this one, to me. 179 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: It's it's egregious And why take this to the press 180 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: to try to undermine the president in this critical moment 181 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: where we're seeing the Iranians on the defensive and hoping 182 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: to bring about I mean, what is Trump trying to 183 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: do here stop the threat of a nuclear nuclear armed 184 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: Iran and move the region forward into a more peaceful place. 185 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a very noble goal. Here's what I would wonder, 186 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 7: are you to the point now where certainly we know 187 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 7: Pete Hegseth has been very upset about leaks inside of 188 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 7: the Pentagon and to his credit and to the credit 189 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 7: of everybody involved in this attack, nobody knew this was 190 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 7: close to the vest. Iran seems to have been caught 191 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 7: unaware that. Certainly, this news didn't break until Trump went 192 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 7: on social media and said, Hey, our planes are now 193 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 7: out of Iranian airspace. We've successfully attacked all those things. 194 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 7: Here is one thing I wonder, do you set up 195 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 7: fake news to try to catch the leakers, Let them 196 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 7: believe that they have some information that you know is 197 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 7: inaccurate because it and start to give information to try 198 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 7: to catch. 199 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: The people that there is an old counterintelligence technique and 200 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: if you if you were to flood, if you put 201 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: in the system stuff that is untrue but juicy, and 202 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: it finds its way and you know, then you know, 203 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 1: based on who you gave that to, right, you flush 204 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: it out on the other side and see, uh, look, 205 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 1: I think what's more to me, what's even more important 206 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: here is just that the administration is able to I mean, look, 207 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: Pete Hags at the Secuary Defense has been very clear 208 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: on this, Others have been very clear on this that 209 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: they're trying to that they're clear on this was a 210 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: massively successful strike and it has done catastrophic damage to 211 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: the Iranian nuclear program, and I think just it's the 212 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: most important thing is one that that is confirmed as 213 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: true with further analysis. In two, they let the public 214 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: know that because we are the final check on these things, 215 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: like we the American people should know what was the 216 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: end result of this and was it worth the risks 217 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: that were taking and the involvement here. So I want 218 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: that transparency from the Trump team. In terms of getting 219 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: this leaker, I think it's unlikely you'll get him. I 220 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: think they should try because you want to prevent these 221 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: kinds of leaks. And I just think it goes to 222 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: the mindset of some people who work inside the intelligence 223 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: agencies that they are They're like operating under some higher 224 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: power which is just always get you know, get Trump, 225 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: make Trump look bad, whatever that is. And people have 226 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: gone to prison for this, as we know, people have 227 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: gone to prison for leaking stuff that really was just 228 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: meant to make Trump look bad. 229 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 7: On the leaking front, the thing that makes the most 230 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 7: sense to me without an intelligence background at all, is 231 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 7: when you bomb the side of a mountain, it is 232 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 7: hard to know how far and the entry ways to 233 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 7: the facility are completely obliterated and you cannot get in 234 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 7: it is I would imagine, hard to assess how far 235 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 7: into the interior of the mountain the overall damage goes, 236 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 7: so until you have boots on the ground, which Israel 237 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 7: claims that they have had the ability to do, to 238 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 7: try to assess how you get back inside. I would 239 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 7: think also that if Iran starts to unpack that nuclear facility, 240 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 7: that would be very visible and we would be able 241 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 7: to go in again and drop additional bombs as needed. 242 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 7: In the event that we have assessed that we didn't 243 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 7: get the full attack success level that we had hoped 244 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 7: we were going to be able to, we'll. 245 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 6: Take some of your costs. 246 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 7: By the way, Senator Marshall Blackburn is going to join 247 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 7: us at the bottom of the hour. It's worth mentioning 248 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 7: that there is the desire to get the big beautiful Bill, 249 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 7: which has not been much talked about over the past 250 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 7: few weeks. It has moved to the backburner given all 251 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 7: the other stories. But Trump's signature legislative goal and achievement 252 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 7: is getting closer and closer to fruition. We will talk 253 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 7: with Senator Blackburn at the bottom of this hour what 254 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 7: she thinks about the timeframe as it pertains to this process. 255 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 7: But I want to tell you all about rapid radios. 256 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 7: I'm up in Michigan right now at News Talk five 257 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 7: ADWTCM and a city. 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We're going to 290 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 7: be joined by Senator Marsha Blackburn at the bottom of 291 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 7: the hour to tell us the latest on the Big 292 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 7: Beautiful Bill and also what she saw on her ice 293 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 7: right around some news breaking during that commercial break that 294 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 7: we were just running through. 295 00:14:59,120 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 6: Tulca. 296 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 7: Gabbard has shared a take on what her intelligence analysis 297 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 7: is saying, which squares with what Israeli intelligence analysis has 298 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 7: also been saying. Different than what CNN and The New 299 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 7: York Times reported new intelligence. 300 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 6: This is Tulsa Gabbert. 301 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 7: New intelligence confirms what POTUS has stated numerous times. Iran's 302 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 7: nuclear facilities have been destroyed. If the Iranians choose to rebuild, 303 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 7: they would have to rebuild all three facilities entirely, which 304 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 7: would likely take years to do. The propaganda media has 305 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 7: deployed their usual tactive tactics, selectively released portions of illegally 306 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 7: leaked classified intelligence assessments, intentionally leaving out the fact that 307 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 7: the assessment was written with low confidence to try to 308 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 7: undermine President Trump's decisive leadership and the brave servicemen and 309 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 7: women who flawlessly executed a truly historic mission to keep 310 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 7: the American people safe and secure. I'm reading from Tulsi 311 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 7: Gabbard's most recent tweet from just a few minutes ago, 312 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 7: which says that the latest of the intelligence reports suggest 313 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 7: that these strikes were incredibly successful. Buck, I imagine how 314 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 7: many of these different versions of analysis do you think 315 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 7: are being written? 316 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 6: Is there ten? Is there fifteen. 317 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 7: Daily from all these different analysts trying to look at 318 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 7: all the information? How many different versions are they're floating around? 319 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 2: Play? This is its own this is its own beast. 320 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: There are interagency assessments where you have different entities from 321 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: within these different DA, CIA, NSA, n CTC. 322 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 7: So would there be like twenty different opinions of exactly 323 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 7: what this strike went? 324 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 5: More? 325 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 7: How many different versions of this reports would be floated? 326 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 6: Me? 327 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 2: I don't even know. 328 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: Usually there's there's primacy on the issue that certain and 329 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: a certain agency will have, But even within the agency, 330 00:16:58,160 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: they'll say they'll refer to them as equities, and the 331 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: say that different groups have equities on this issue, so 332 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: they have to all agree. 333 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: This is what you get the I. 334 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 6: Would lose my mind over this. It just even badly. 335 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 7: The bureaucracy of analyzing what the strikes did would just 336 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,239 Speaker 7: make me throw my hands up in the air, like 337 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 7: you could basically find any opinion that you want. Is 338 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 7: kind of what I'm getting at in terms of degradation 339 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 7: or variation of the success of these strikes. 340 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that's well. 341 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: This is what happened with Cheney and the WMD. By 342 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: the way, and I know that story better than even 343 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: the public knows the story because I know the people 344 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: that were involved in it. Dated is that Cheney heard 345 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: what he liked you got invited back down to the 346 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: White House. 347 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: Yes, Cheney didn't like the analysis. You didn't do a good. 348 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: Job, and you got to You know, your your boss 349 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: got an email saying they got to replace you with 350 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: somebody else. 351 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 2: It's pretty straightforward. 352 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 1: Look, some of the best investment opportunities come by way 353 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: of research on your part. If you've not spent the 354 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: time learning what investment analyst Jim Rickards has to offer, 355 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: to take time this week to do so. 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Senator, always 373 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: appreciate you making the time for us. Thank you so much, 374 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: you got it. 375 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 4: I'm so happy to join you. Thanks. 376 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: How are you feeling about the influx of New Yorkers 377 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: that you may be getting, Senator Blackburn, based on the 378 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: mayor's race, Do you. 379 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 2: Have Do you have room in the great State of Tennessee? 380 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: If there, if they're good patriotic Americans fleeing your way, if. 381 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 4: They are willing to leave New York and Illinois and 382 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 4: California and Massachusetts, Taxachuset's some of these states and leave 383 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 4: behind those Democrat policies and come to a state like 384 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 4: Tennessee with no state income tax, then we welcome them. 385 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 7: I this is probably a question that I'm sure you 386 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 7: get all the time, but as somebody born and raised 387 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 7: in Tennessee, it's one of the questions that I get 388 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 7: most frequently from others who are born and raised in Tennessee. 389 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 7: We have data now on the twenty twenty four election, 390 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 7: and I know you, obvi, as an elected official, probably 391 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 7: have poured over that data. I know you've got a 392 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 7: lot of smart people in Tennessee, Florida and Texas. It 393 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 7: appears that the people moving are as a whole making 394 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 7: the states reader so far right. So to allay some 395 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 7: of those concerns that might be out there, oh that. 396 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 4: Is so very true. And I meet people every single day, Clay, 397 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 4: and they will say, oh, did you really stop a 398 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 4: state income tax in Tennessee? And they're amazed. You know, 399 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 4: they are accustomed to paying these exorbitant state income tax fees. 400 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 4: And then you look at this issue that has come 401 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 4: up on the salt tax, and you have California and 402 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 4: New York trying to move that deduction to forty one 403 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 4: thousand dollars and say we want it to apply to 404 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 4: everybody making under a million dollars a year, and they 405 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 4: keep trying to expand it, and we keep saying no, 406 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 4: this is an issue for your state legislature. If you 407 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 4: think the taxes are too high, go talk to them, 408 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 4: tell them it's time for them to start right sizing 409 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 4: the federal government, and you don't need the federal art 410 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 4: to right size the state government. You don't need the 411 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 4: federal government saying, Okay, we're going to give you an 412 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 4: extra deduction because your states cannot get their fiscal house 413 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 4: in order. But people are voting with their feet and 414 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 4: they're choosing states like Tennessee. 415 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: Senator Blackburn, I see here on a Fox story that 416 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: you spend some time doing ride alongs and seeing firsthand 417 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: what the mission of Immigration and Customs Enforcement looks like 418 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: these days. What's going going on with it? What did 419 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: you see, and what do the American people need to 420 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 1: know about the Trump Administration's interior immigration enforcement efforts. 421 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 4: Our Homeland security investigators and our ICE agents are working 422 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 4: about seventy five hours a week right now. They are 423 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 4: putting in the time. It takes a lot of time, 424 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 4: and in order to apprehend these individuals that have orders 425 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 4: of deportation, that are criminal, illegal aliens and meeting with them, 426 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 4: talking with them before we started the ride alongs. That 427 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 4: was so instructive to me now seeing how hard they 428 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 4: work as they surveil individuals and make certain that they're 429 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 4: in a public space. They're not inside a house when 430 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 4: they apprehend them. It is something that takes a lot 431 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 4: of time. We were surveilling someone who was a convicted 432 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 4: child molester and had come into the US, and I 433 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 4: have not met one single person that says, I am 434 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 4: really hopeful that we're going to have some trenda Uragua, 435 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 4: MS thirteen or other violent gangs move into our apartment 436 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 4: complex or into our community, or by the house that's 437 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 4: for sale down the street. They are hopeful they're going 438 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 4: to get a family that's got babysitters or kids that 439 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 4: can play with their kids. But they're not looking for 440 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 4: drug dealer, sex traffickers, gang members or convicted criminals to 441 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 4: buy those homes and move into their neighborhood or their community. 442 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 4: And ICE is working very hard to rid our communities 443 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 4: of those individuals and to see them deported back to 444 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 4: their home countries. 445 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 7: Center Blackburn, we just saw that there's people throwing fits 446 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 7: inside of the Capitol as the big beautiful bill advances. 447 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 7: There's been talk that John Thune, Senate majority leader, is 448 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 7: holding everybody there to get the votes done. What's the 449 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 7: timeframe so far as you can tell, I know there's 450 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 7: going to be a lot going on. When are you 451 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 7: expecting it to pass? What are you expecting it to 452 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 7: look like? For people wondering out there, I. 453 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 4: First of all, it is going to be the largest 454 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 4: tax cut in American history. That is what this bill 455 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 4: will give you. It will make those twenty seventeen tax 456 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 4: cuts permanent, the largest tax cut in history. Also, no 457 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 4: tax on tips over time, and my provision which will 458 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 4: hold our senior citizens harmless when it comes to paying 459 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 4: that tax on Social Security, which I have tried to 460 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 4: get rid of for years. So no tax tips overtime 461 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 4: social Security. In addition to that, if you are a freeloader, 462 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 4: a fraudster, an illegal alien, you do not deserve Medicare 463 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 4: or Medicaid benefits, and we are going to make certain 464 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 4: that you are removed from those roles so we can 465 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 4: strengthen those programs and have them there for the people 466 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 4: that deserve them. So the prospects look very good. Everybody 467 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 4: is united in getting President Trump's agenda across the finish line, 468 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 4: working out some of the final details, getting some of 469 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 4: the final scoring is where we are right now. 470 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 7: And so you expect for President Trump, he's been wanting 471 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 7: to get it signed by July fourth or thereabouts. You 472 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 7: expect some time around July fourth. 473 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 4: Yes, I think you'll see him signing it by July fourth. 474 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 6: Oh wow, excellent, that's really good news. 475 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 2: We certainly hope that that gets done. 476 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 4: People would like to get the largest tax cut in history. 477 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 4: Sigin filed delivered by President Donald Trump in time for 478 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 4: their Independence Day celebration. 479 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: Senator Blackburn, So, are there any last minute issues that 480 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: are still being hammered out or does it seem like 481 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: a pretty clear path to get that big, beautiful bill 482 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: done before the fourth of July holiday. 483 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 4: Oh, there are always some little loose ends that are 484 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 4: going to be hammered out, and we're still waiting on 485 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 4: some scoring from CBO. And as I say, why don't 486 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 4: we wait on these people? They're always wrong, Their numbers 487 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 4: are never right. So we'll finish with those details during 488 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 4: the rest of the day and then hopefully we can 489 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 4: move to Klocher, Tomorraw on this thing. 490 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 6: Outstanding stuff, Senator Blackburn. 491 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 7: We appreciate the time, and we look forward to that 492 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 7: bill getting passed, the President Trump's agenda continuing to be executed. 493 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 4: You got it, take care of final for sure. 494 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 7: Look, we were just talking about some of the challenges 495 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 7: that come with being a parent. In fact, Buck's new dad. 496 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 7: I've got three kids. Last night they were fighting. I 497 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 7: couldn't get them to stop fighting, and eventually I had 498 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 7: to just grab one of them and be like, hey, 499 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 7: stop wrestling, keep your hands off each other. It's unbelievable. 500 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 7: And if you've got kids or grandkids, you know what 501 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 7: I'm talking about. And much of what you do in 502 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 7: life is about trying to give them the best possible 503 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 7: opportunity whatever you do. Have you thought about what will 504 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 7: happen after you are gone. Are your kids and your 505 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 7: grandkids going to be able to handle the wishes that 506 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 7: you would care about the most? Or are you concerned 507 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 7: that they'll end up fighting over what you have left 508 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 7: behind and what your wishes might be. Why not go 509 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 7: ahead and solve it. You know only thirty percent of 510 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 7: people have a trust in a will. You can get 511 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 7: this done. It doesn't have to be complicated. You spend 512 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 7: your whole life trying to make sure that your family 513 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 7: is taken care of. Don't you want to limit what 514 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 7: they're fighting about when you are gone. To the best 515 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 7: of your ability, solve. 516 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 6: It once and for all. Today. 517 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,959 Speaker 7: It's not complicated. Just go to Trust and Will dot Com. 518 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 7: I have a trust, I have a will. I've done 519 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 7: it for my boys. No telling when that day is 520 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 7: going to come, but we are all going to one 521 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 7: day not be around. 522 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 6: And we want to make sure. 523 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 7: That what we cared about, that we have fought for 524 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 7: for our entire lives, that we preserve and take care 525 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 7: of all of that, and that our kids and our 526 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 7: grandkids are taken care of as we would like to 527 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 7: see fit. Trust and will dot Com that website one 528 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 7: more time. Trust and will dot Com I have both. 529 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 7: Only thirty percent of Americans. Do make the right decision 530 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 7: for your family, control what happens after you are gone, 531 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 7: and help to limit all the fracas that might otherwise 532 00:28:49,800 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 7: ensue at Trust and will dot Com Again, my thanks 533 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 7: Traverse City, Michigan. Seventy degrees up here today. I understand 534 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 7: the rest of the country is sweltering. News Talk five 535 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 7: eight WTCM. Appreciate them hosting us. You know where it 536 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 7: is definitely sweltering is down where Buck is and that's 537 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 7: where Florida ag James Upmeyer. 538 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 6: Who we know, good dude, he has got an idea. 539 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 7: We talked about Alcatraz and the fact that I'm one 540 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 7: of the greatest swimmers ever in that I could easily 541 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 7: swim across San Francisco Bay, and I'm glad that all 542 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 7: of you agreed with that. And there now is talk 543 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 7: that Florida is going to do their own version of Alcatraz, 544 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 7: except it's going to be called Alligator Alcatraz in the Everglades. 545 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 7: Listen to Cut twenty three. 546 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 8: Florida has been leading on immigration enforcements, supporting the Trump 547 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 8: administration and ICE's efforts to detain and deport criminal aliens. 548 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 8: The governor task state leaders to identify places for new 549 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 8: temporary detention facilities. I think this is the best one, 550 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 8: as I call it, Alligator out Coatrez. This thirty square 551 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 8: mile area is completely surrounded by the Ever place presents 552 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 8: an efficient, low cost opportunity to build a temporary detention 553 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 8: facility because you don't need to invest that much in 554 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 8: the perimeter. People get out, there's not much waiting for 555 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 8: them other than alligators and pipelines. Nowhere to go, nowhere 556 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 8: to hide. 557 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,719 Speaker 6: This is actually a brilliant idea. 558 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 7: I give credit to the State of Florida on this 559 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 7: because historically this is why places like Alcatraz existed. You 560 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 7: surrounded them with very difficult barriers for prisoners in the 561 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 7: event that they were to escape. I feel pretty good 562 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 7: about the difficulty of anybody getting out of Alligator Alcatraz 563 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 7: as a Floridian. Are you one hundred percent behind this idea? 564 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: Certainly getting a lot of attention, and you need places 565 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: where you can hold people, quickly process them and then 566 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: get those deportation proceedings going. You know, you look at 567 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: the numbers, and I know the Trump administration is moving 568 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: rapidly on this stuff, but when you see the flood 569 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: that happened under Biden in four years, it's going to 570 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: take some real doing here to begin to really chip 571 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: away at the illegal invasion that happened in the country. 572 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, the thing about. 573 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: You know alligators there, You know, during the daytime, they'll 574 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: leave you alone for the most part, not too bad. 575 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: It's really at night that you wouldn't want to be 576 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: trying to go up the like chest deep water in 577 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: the Everglades and hope that you don't make some new 578 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: friends you weren't intending on that. 579 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 2: That would be tough. 580 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 7: There's also crocodiles and as he mentions, pythons, anacondas. There's 581 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 7: like basically anything can live in the Everglades and they 582 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 7: do these python searches. I mean they're twenty foot pythons. 583 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 6: Now they do python hunts. 584 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, well those are an invasive species brought here as pets. 585 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: The pythons are pets that were brought here and released. 586 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: Iguanas were pets that were brought here and release. The 587 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: iguanas are everywhere. You'll see it all over the place here. 588 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: A lot of the smaller lizards as well. They're not 589 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: indigenous to South Florida. They were brought here as pets. 590 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: So that's why when you go to places and they say, 591 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: did you bring any like animals or livestock products or whatever, 592 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: because if you introduce some of these things into the ecosystem, 593 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: I think lionfish as well, which you can go and 594 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: you can kill as many lionfish as you want down 595 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: here in Florida and you can, I think you can 596 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: eat them. They have a spines on them. They're very poisonous. 597 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: Parrots are there. I live next to flocks of wild 598 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: parrots now, they're all over the place here. Those were 599 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: brought here as pets. So a lot of stuff that 600 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: you think of, and you know what is not native 601 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: to Florida or you will not find in Florida flamingos. 602 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: Have I talked to you about this before people think 603 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: of there are thousands of businesses and places. 604 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 2: There's a flamingo park here in Miami Beach. 605 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: Flamingo is everywhere as a concept in Florida. Flamingo lawn ornaments, 606 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: we've all seen them. 607 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 2: Clay. The flamingos that. 608 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: Most people think of when they think of Miami were 609 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: actually a flock of flamingos brought from Africa at the 610 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: racetrack in the intro of Miami Vice. And everyone thought 611 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: from that show, because there's flamingos at the racetrack, there 612 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: must be flamingos in Florida. There are very rare, like 613 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: a handful of occasions where they think that maybe during 614 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: severe weather flamingos have basically been like blown here. 615 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 2: But there are not indigenous. 616 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: Flamingos and any numbers in Florida, which I think even 617 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: shocks some Floridians when they find out. 618 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 7: The most successful, most liked invasive species in American history 619 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 7: bees they did. 620 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,479 Speaker 6: It's crazy. People don't realize it. 621 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 7: There were no bees, no honey bees in the United 622 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 7: States or in the Americas until they were brought over 623 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 7: from Europe. By the way, another crazy one, tomatoes not 624 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 7: native to Italy. We all think about tomatoes like because 625 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 7: so much of their cuisine involves tomatoes. 626 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 6: Not native. 627 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: So they say now that they think there are up 628 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: to one hundred flamingos in the state of Florida that 629 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: may have been blown here during Hurricane Idalia, but there 630 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: was There's been a long period where there were no 631 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: wild flamingos here. So now there's like a very small 632 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: colony of them. But you know, I always i'm down here. 633 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: You see pelicans all over the place. Yeah, they're not 634 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: as famous, but flamingos are the things you think of 635 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: as Florida. 636 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 2: They're not really here. 637 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: But yeah, so that's it's like the state bird for 638 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: a state that barely has any of these birds. 639 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 7: By the way, breaking news that does not have anything 640 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 7: to do with international politics, but does have something to 641 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 7: do with New York City. In the wake of the 642 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 7: Democrat primary, both sides have rested their case in the 643 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 7: puff Daddy p Ditty whatever you want to call him, 644 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 7: Sean Combe's sex trafficking for lack of a better way 645 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 7: of describing it case, and that has now gone to 646 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 7: the jury. So this is a big story New York City. 647 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 7: You and I have both I think we're in agreement 648 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,280 Speaker 7: on this. They've dropped some of the charges now because 649 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 7: they thought they were complicated before they even got to 650 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:15,240 Speaker 7: the jury. 651 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 6: I don't know that we're going to get a not 652 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 6: guilty verdict. 653 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 7: I think based on following this entire case, I don't 654 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 7: think they've proven that this is a that this is 655 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 7: a crime. I don't think they're going to get a 656 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 7: unanimous jury verdict now is wrong on the. 657 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 6: New York City mayoral race. Maybe I'll be wrong on this. 658 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 7: There's eight men on the jury and basically this case 659 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 7: has been boiled down. We'll probably talk about it some 660 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 7: tomorrow now that the jury's got it to was this 661 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 7: coercive or consensual activity that these women were engaging in? 662 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 6: And I don't think you're going to be able to 663 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 6: get all of the jury. 664 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 7: To agree that huff Daddy is guilty here, based on 665 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 7: the evidence and what I have seen of the testimony. 666 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 7: Are you in agreement with me that you expect to 667 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 7: I'm not saying not guilty. I'm saying I don't think 668 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 7: twelve people are the total number of jurors here. 669 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 6: I think it's twelve will agree to these charges. 670 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's definitely guilty of being a scumbag, but that's 671 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: not what the statutes are that are at it right, 672 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: and I think that that is that this could be 673 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: a shock to a lot of people. Now Whenmber we 674 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,760 Speaker 1: had on Dershowitz who agreed with us in the flaughter sense, 675 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 1: but said they may just convict him because he's such 676 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:25,959 Speaker 1: a clearly bad guy. 677 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 2: But on the peel it will be overturned. 678 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: That's another possibility, but definitely not an open and shutcase, 679 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: and I would not put a lot of money on. 680 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 6: A guilty verdictue. We'll give you the latest on that 681 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 6: tomorrow