Speaker 1: What's that bed?
Speaker 2: It's spooky. I'm really sure it's dead. He's coming this way.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, how I know, said.
Speaker 1: Ross Dress.
Speaker 2: Hey boo, it's me Ras you guys.
Speaker 3: I am joined by an icon on today's episode, Raja
Speaker 3: Raja Gemini, which is Raja Raja is so incredible and.
Speaker 2: You'll hear from this.
Speaker 3: I I actually don't know Raja, and it's it's weird
Speaker 3: that I don't, but she was very instrumental in my
Speaker 3: my young days pre being a drag perform and I
Speaker 3: would go see her and I remember thinking, that is
Speaker 3: the most beautiful human being I have ever seen in person.
Speaker 3: And yes I do have a mirror, and I just
Speaker 3: to me, she's just the epitome of cool. And then
Speaker 3: she went on to do drag Race. She won RuPaul's
Speaker 3: Drag Race season three. And she's also hilarious and has.
Speaker 2: Some ghost stories.
Speaker 3: So we recorded this about a month ago, and you're
Speaker 3: really gonna enjoy this, I think, because she comes. She
Speaker 3: comes correct with these stories today and I got a
Speaker 3: good one for you next week. Oh, podcast is going
Speaker 3: well over here. I love it when people send me
Speaker 3: ghost stories, and I don't always I haven't lately. I
Speaker 3: haven't been reading that many because I haven't been getting
Speaker 3: that many written out. And it's okay. I'm sure you
Speaker 3: guys are very busy, but if you have one, you know,
Speaker 3: you could always email me I go stood by rosigmail
Speaker 3: dot com, or leave it in a five star review
Speaker 3: on Apple podcasts. But here's one that I recently noticed.
Speaker 3: This one came from I want to say. Their name
Speaker 3: is Lese and it says Hi Roz was listening to
Speaker 3: your February fourth show with Jess Ambrose Lover. You're discussing
Speaker 3: never seeing ghosts from the waist down. Well, one time
Speaker 3: I was walking my dog Tyler and glanced up to
Speaker 3: see an old high back wooden chair all by its
Speaker 3: lonesome on the corner in San Francisco. Finding abandoned furniture
Speaker 3: is one of the best ways to acquire nice, new
Speaker 3: for you pieces. I considered picking it up, but something
Speaker 3: odd caught my eye. Movement of fluttering in the breeze.
Speaker 3: Closer Now I saw air of legs draped in pattern
Speaker 3: loose flowing pants seated in the chair. It wouldn't seem
Speaker 3: strange if there had been someone sitting there. There wasn't.
Speaker 3: I could see the chair through the pants. I was transfixed, thrilled, unnerved.
Speaker 3: As I circled the chair with the transparent lower torso
Speaker 3: and legs still visible, I watched them move and the
Speaker 3: fabric ripple. I took a photo empty chair, sigh. I
Speaker 3: decided not to bring it home with me. The chair
Speaker 3: was gone and possibly re homed the next day. You
Speaker 3: know that coind reminds me of is in Beetleteos when
Speaker 3: there's like the waiting room and there's that woman and
Speaker 3: she's like got her legs and then she's like the
Speaker 3: upper half. They're like separated on the show, just like
Speaker 3: two legs, just like sitting there. That's an amazing story.
Speaker 3: Thanks for sending me that. And I love the gorgeous pants.
Speaker 3: Maybe they were some type of pantaloon or a palazzo pant. Gorgeous, guys.
Speaker 3: I want to hand it on over to our episode today.
Speaker 3: Of course, if you want to hear a little extra,
Speaker 3: you can always go to patreon dot com slash razjezz
Speaker 3: Falas to hear Raja's thoughts on some unexplained phenomenals, including
Speaker 3: Ouija boards and sleep paralysis and you know that kind
Speaker 3: of stuff. Other than that, it is time for my
Speaker 3: conversation with winner of RuPaul's Drag Race Season three, Raja Gemini,
Speaker 3: and with the show Oh my God, I am starstruck
Speaker 3: because I am joined by Raja.
Speaker 2: Hello, how are you?
Speaker 1: I'm doing good your stars.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: I love when people are struck.
Speaker 3: You don't even understand. First of all, you're one of
Speaker 3: the few people that I I've.
Speaker 2: Weirdly, I don't think ever worked with.
Speaker 3: No, I know I've never worked with you, because I
Speaker 3: would have absolutely remembered.
Speaker 2: You mean so much to me.
Speaker 3: Seriously, I I even during the pandemic, and I know
Speaker 3: this isn't like super cute to say, but I was
Speaker 3: having moments where I was like, I.
Speaker 2: Don't miss drag at all.
Speaker 3: And then I started listening to your podcast with Delta
Speaker 3: Work called Bury That and you guys reminiscing and having fun.
Speaker 3: It felt like I was like in a dressing room.
Speaker 3: You guys were talking about places I used to go
Speaker 3: to when and I would see you guys when I
Speaker 3: was like, that's what I want to be one day.
Speaker 2: I want to be like them.
Speaker 3: It brought me back so much and has given me
Speaker 3: literally life back into my love for drag, and I
Speaker 3: truly give the two of you, like I put that
Speaker 3: on the two of you to that have done that
Speaker 3: for me.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's wonderful. I love that. I love that because
Speaker 1: you know, like like what you're saying, it's like it
Speaker 1: does kind of feel like being in a dressing room,
Speaker 1: because that to me, like when I do a drag show,
Speaker 1: the dressing room is the most important and the funnest
Speaker 1: part of the evening. I don't think people people really
Speaker 1: don't get to indulge in the show that is the
Speaker 1: dressing room itself, and that that in itself should be
Speaker 1: it's its own thing. But yeah, I think it's it's
Speaker 1: also kind of healthy for me in Delta to have
Speaker 1: those nostalgic moments and get to talk about things in
Speaker 1: the past, because it not only shows us where we've
Speaker 1: come along, but it also kind of, you know, it
Speaker 1: just reminds us of our roots and why we love
Speaker 1: what we do and the friendships that we made, and
Speaker 1: you know, and the camaraderie and the gossip and the
Speaker 1: friendships and the alliances that you make along the way,
Speaker 1: so that that's been really important, you know. So but
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I really appreciate hearing that from you,
Speaker 1: Like I said, I love it when people are starstruck.
Speaker 1: Is I fucking worked hard for people to be starstruck
Speaker 1: for decades? Sis? No, I was just gonna ask you
Speaker 1: what pronouns you prefer to be to be called by?
Speaker 2: I go by she.
Speaker 3: I mean people could say they raz I'm not a
Speaker 3: big he. I don't like he, but yeah she, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not a big heat either, but I'll
Speaker 1: accept it. I'm not. I'm not mad at it because
Speaker 1: I I have definitely embraced the masculine parts of me.
Speaker 1: My pronoun is thou. Actually I would like to refer
Speaker 1: to as doo oh, so fancier Shakespearean.
Speaker 2: Well, I want to hear if thou will doubt tell us.
Speaker 3: About your your your paranormal relationship. I want to know, well,
Speaker 3: first of all, what do you believe when it comes
Speaker 3: to this kind of spooky stuff?
Speaker 2: Or is it spooky too both?
Speaker 1: I don't really actually know what I believe. Just up.
Speaker 1: On a personal note, death has been a recurring conversation
Speaker 1: a lot within my friend groups, mainly because our parental
Speaker 1: figures My mother my best friend's grandmother who raised him,
Speaker 1: and then I also have another bestie who lives in Hawaii.
Speaker 1: His mother is going through you know this this hospice care,
Speaker 1: which essentially, in medical terms, means it's sort of the
Speaker 1: end of life, you know, and and and there's different
Speaker 1: levels of care that are given to people as they
Speaker 1: become more and more ill and as they start preparing
Speaker 1: them also the next realm. So this conversation lately has
Speaker 1: been very very much death. We've been talking about death.
Speaker 1: But first of all, my experience with death is I'm
Speaker 1: not afraid of it. I have experienced so much because
Speaker 1: I am of a generation where death was quite common,
Speaker 1: especially in the queer community. I'm you know, I'm a
Speaker 1: generation what the fuck do they call it? X gen X.
Speaker 1: I'm just, oh my god, that's like practically a boomer.
Speaker 1: But you know, so I I have friends who've died
Speaker 1: for various reasons, those including aids and drug addiction. I
Speaker 1: worked in nightlife, so it just it just became a
Speaker 1: very very common conversation. And now when I talk about death,
Speaker 1: I don't really have a fear in the conversation because
Speaker 1: I I'm not afraid of it. So it is it.
Speaker 2: Is that a spiritual thing.
Speaker 1: It is a spiritual thing. Yeah, And I and and
Speaker 1: I also grew up in a big chunk of my
Speaker 1: childhood was spent in Indonesia, and they have a very interesting
Speaker 1: view of death and different rituals that they used within
Speaker 1: the various the various, uh, you know, Indonesia's is quite vast.
Speaker 1: It's not just one singular culture. It's many, many, many
Speaker 1: different languages, many foods, many you know, cultures on its own,
Speaker 1: and each each, each Indonesian cultural, our culture, has its
Speaker 1: own way of dealing with death. So that that part
Speaker 1: for me has always been both mystery, intriguing and now
Speaker 1: in my age, something that I am not afraid of.
Speaker 1: So I'm not even afraid of the lingering spirits that
Speaker 1: could perhaps be around me because I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: still thinking it out, you know, because we never really
Speaker 1: know it's on the other side. We don't. We don't.
Speaker 1: We can, we can make the assumptions, and we can
Speaker 1: use our spiritualities and religion to kind of help us
Speaker 1: guide it through, but no one really actually fucking knows.
Speaker 1: But when I tell you, But when I tell you,
Speaker 1: sometimes I feel the spirits around me. Baby, I believe
Speaker 1: in that, and I don't know what it is. It
Speaker 1: could be something spiritual, or it can be a the fuck,
Speaker 1: it could be purely alien and scientific like the matrix.
Speaker 1: You know, it could it could.
Speaker 2: Be that, it could be that it's fun to speculate.
Speaker 2: Who knows.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's okay. I think I think part of
Speaker 1: the part of the guessing game and figuring it out
Speaker 1: is what life is all about. And then you really
Speaker 1: don't know what happens until you get there on the
Speaker 1: other side.
Speaker 3: So I totally agree. Like, I think that having conversations
Speaker 3: about this stuff, which I do on a daily and
Speaker 3: weekly basis, has really taken away my fear of death.
Speaker 3: And it's just I still don't I don't know what
Speaker 3: happens when we die, blah blah blah. I but just
Speaker 3: hearing a lot of different people's experiences with being visited
Speaker 3: by loved ones or just various things like that has
Speaker 3: made me feel like, Okay, I think I understand some
Speaker 3: I understand that it's going to be all fine, everything's fine. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's not, you know. I think we live on no
Speaker 3: matter what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in one in one way or another. And a
Speaker 1: big part of me is also a believer of like
Speaker 1: readincarnation and such, just because I have a huge respect
Speaker 1: for Eastern religions and faiths and philosophies.
Speaker 3: Do you think that your cultural upbringing has informed your
Speaker 3: ideas of like ghosts, for example.
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, yeah, yeah, Oh my gosh. We could go
Speaker 1: on for our about this, but I yeah, at a
Speaker 1: young age, I realized what death was, and I realized,
Speaker 1: especially living in Indonesia, that spirits are very important and
Speaker 1: ought to be respected and and not dismissed. So yes,
Speaker 1: I think, I don't know, there's something in my apartment.
Speaker 1: I live in an old apartment building. We talked about
Speaker 1: I mean, we haven't really talked extensively about it, but
Speaker 1: like I know, in my apartment, this building has probably
Speaker 1: built maybe i'd see, like in the thirties, which is
Speaker 1: very common in the part of LA that I live in,
Speaker 1: which is in Korea Town and most of Los Angeles
Speaker 1: really and what people what many people don't realize is
Speaker 1: that LA has a very very dark history. This is
Speaker 1: the wild West, you know, this is historically so there
Speaker 1: was a lot lot of ship going down here that
Speaker 1: that that you know, crimes, murders, the Black Dahlia for
Speaker 1: instances from this is an l A story. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And and there was a period in time before before
Speaker 1: we even existed, in this realm that you know, l
Speaker 1: A was a very dark place. Lots of crazy, weird
Speaker 1: ass ship has happened here, the Alexandria Hotel, you know,
Speaker 1: the Black Dahlia. Lots of urban myths and legends of
Speaker 1: spirits and and such happened. So I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's just me. I don't know if it's if it's
Speaker 1: if it's me. Uh, maybe I take too many edibles
Speaker 1: at night. I don't I don't know what the fuck
Speaker 1: it is. But ship be going down in my apartment,
Speaker 1: and I am not. I'm not afraid of it. I
Speaker 1: think my understanding of death and my acceptance of the
Speaker 1: existence of spirits calms me. It makes me feel like,
Speaker 1: you know what, if you ain't doing nothing, nothing, nothing
Speaker 1: bad to me, you know, if you're not making me,
Speaker 1: if you're not possessing me in an evil way, then
Speaker 1: we then we can live together. You me, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: me and the spirits in this apartment we can live
Speaker 1: together just fine. We can coexist.
Speaker 3: Do you think that, as you had mentioned edibles, I
Speaker 3: kind of have this theory that's like if you're intoxicated,
Speaker 3: like because people will tell me these stories and then
Speaker 3: and then sometimes I'll hear people online be like, yeah,
Speaker 3: they were probably high or whatever, and I say, well,
Speaker 3: if your guard is down, you know, like when you're
Speaker 3: slightly intoxicated or whatever, you're not worrying about the things
Speaker 3: that we worry about all the time. And could that
Speaker 3: make the veil thinner to the other side, Like could
Speaker 3: there actually be something to that?
Speaker 1: I think so, yeah, I was really excited about American
Speaker 1: Horror Story this season, which is set in Provincetown. And
Speaker 1: Provincetown is a place that I frequent, usually in the
Speaker 1: summertime when it's at its height, because it's a you know,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a gay mecca. It's a place that
Speaker 1: you know, really celebrates many artists. And I spend many
Speaker 1: of my summers there workshopping and learn and learning and
Speaker 1: just overall having a great time and spending a beautiful
Speaker 1: summer in Cape Cod. And it's it's at the tip
Speaker 1: of Cape Cod. And if you're unfamiliar, you can look
Speaker 1: at it at a math Provincetown. The Cape Cod itself
Speaker 1: is in the shape of a spiral, and Provincetown is
Speaker 1: at the very tip of it. Historically, it's the first
Speaker 1: place that the Pilgrims when they came to America from England,
Speaker 1: first landed. Because it is a virtual sandbar, it was
Speaker 1: almost impossible for them to grow and farm, and also
Speaker 1: the weather was a far too cold for them to survive.
Speaker 1: So they were like, fuck this, we can't hang out here.
Speaker 1: This isn't working. We're going to move to Plymouth. And
Speaker 1: so now Plymouth or Plymouth Rock is considered to be
Speaker 1: the first place where the Pilgrims landed, when in actuality
Speaker 1: it was Provincetown. So if you can imagine, this is
Speaker 1: a place that has a lot of history. There's graveyards
Speaker 1: there in the center of town. In fact, just across
Speaker 1: the street from the stopping shop, which is the grocery store.
Speaker 1: They're most comparable to Vaughn's and Ralph's here in California,
Speaker 1: but they have one there. And across the street there's
Speaker 1: this graveyard and I would walk through it a lot
Speaker 1: many times. In fact, I've made out with the boy
Speaker 1: once there late at night. But the gravestones are so
Speaker 1: old that you can barely see what is chiseled onto them.
Speaker 1: Some of the graves are like I'm not kidding you,
Speaker 1: like sixteen hundred, seventeen seventeen something, definitely seventeen, definitely sixteen
Speaker 1: and you know old old Graves. Well, because this is
Speaker 1: a summer town and because a lot of gays are
Speaker 1: hanging out. I was hanging out with a bunch of
Speaker 1: gates on a patio, all hanging out, drinking, enjoying our
Speaker 1: evening one night and a friend offered me some mushrooms,
Speaker 1: which I love. I find them to be quite nice actually,
Speaker 1: and especially on the summer night in Cape Cod. So
Speaker 1: I took these mushrooms and I needed to walk back home,
Speaker 1: which was on the other side of town, a very
Speaker 1: small town, you know, not so going across town isn't
Speaker 1: like miles and miles and miles. It's just like I
Speaker 1: had to. I had to get back to met to
Speaker 1: where I was staying. And it was very late at night,
Speaker 1: I want to say, it was about three o'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning, you know. And there I was the time
Speaker 1: my mushrooms baby kicked in. And it was just in
Speaker 1: that nice coasting level where I was having a really
Speaker 1: fun time. The wind that was coming off of the
Speaker 1: bay was causing this flapping sound against all the rainbow
Speaker 1: flags that were strewn across the street. Baby, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: And I was walking alone, and I knew how old
Speaker 1: this place was, of course, And there was no one
Speaker 1: on the streets, just the sound of the flapping flags
Speaker 1: in the wind and through the trees. And about halfway
Speaker 1: on the halfway point, as I'm walking between my friend's
Speaker 1: patio and down the street to where I was staying,
Speaker 1: swear to God, there was nobody on the streets. But
Speaker 1: I felt the eyes. I felt like I was being
Speaker 1: watched by hundreds of people. I could not even describe it.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, am I am I
Speaker 1: terrified right now? No, I'm not. How can it be terrified?
Speaker 1: There's nothing threatening happening to me. It's just it was
Speaker 1: just the sudden awareness that I was being watched. And
Speaker 1: it wasn't anything human. It was just it was entities,
Speaker 1: it was spirits, it was things. It was maybe thoughts
Speaker 1: that were leaking to something. I definitely felt eyes on me.
Speaker 1: And I made it home safely, and I got into
Speaker 1: bed and I went to bed, and then the next
Speaker 1: day it stayed in my mind. I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: you know, so, yes, I do think that certain certain
Speaker 1: especially more natural substances like potten and shrooms can be
Speaker 1: can definitely heighten that awareness for sure.
Speaker 3: So what's going on in your apartment? Because I've heard
Speaker 3: you talk a little bit about this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well a few things have happened, and I how.
Speaker 2: Long have you been there?
Speaker 1: I've lived in this apartment now almost five years. Previously
Speaker 1: I lived in or I lived in West Hollywood, which
Speaker 1: even there too, you know, there's a lot of people
Speaker 1: who have who have broken dreams here and people who
Speaker 1: and and spirits that may or that may be lingering.
Speaker 3: Unfinished business yet exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: And I always kind of felt that in West Hollywood.
Speaker 1: But when I moved here to this apartment in Koreatown,
Speaker 1: the building was quite a bit older, and occasionally I
Speaker 1: will feel movement, I will feel presences. A door may
Speaker 1: open and I and you can blame it on the wind,
Speaker 1: you can blame it on the creaking of an old building.
Speaker 1: You can blame it on on various things that I
Speaker 1: think a lot of those moments, I'm really quite aware,
Speaker 1: Especially when I fucking take an edible, I'm just like, WHOA,
Speaker 1: what's that? Am I am? I being paranoid. Well, one evening,
Speaker 1: as I was watching television, I have a little sort
Speaker 1: of salon area. It's it's a converted dining room that
Speaker 1: that connects to my kitchen, and I hang out in
Speaker 1: this room a lot. And it's got a lot of items,
Speaker 1: a lot of painting, there's a lot of I keep
Speaker 1: a lot of my glittering rhinestone headdresses above me as
Speaker 1: a display, and so it's it's a bit of a clutter,
Speaker 1: but it's an eclectic and very very romantic sort of room.
Speaker 1: And I relax in this room a lot. And one evening,
Speaker 1: late late late in the evening, I was laying on
Speaker 1: my sofa watching whatever was on TV. And I have
Speaker 1: a painting of Carol Channing. Yes, very yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: painting of Carol Channing that that is in a hallway
Speaker 1: that connects to my restaurant room. And this is the
Speaker 1: room where I display a lot of paintings as well. Well.
Speaker 1: Nothing in the five years that I've ever lived here,
Speaker 1: nothing has ever fallen off that, you know, nothing, but
Speaker 1: this full on Carol Channing painting flew from one end
Speaker 1: of the hallway to the other and there it laid flat,
Speaker 1: and I immediately knew it was no coincidence. There's no
Speaker 1: way any sort of wind or anything could have knocked
Speaker 1: it off. It fell to the ground. So immediately I
Speaker 1: stood up to see what it was. And then I
Speaker 1: picked up the painting and I looked over at where
Speaker 1: the nail that that held it to the wall there was.
Speaker 1: The nail wasn't bent, you know, it's you would think
Speaker 1: it's an old, crumbling sort of older building wall. The
Speaker 1: plaster might have weakened. I thought of various reasons why
Speaker 1: this painting flew across the room and there as.
Speaker 2: It didn't just fall. It went a distance.
Speaker 1: It went a distance. Yeah, I would say it went
Speaker 1: at least like up to three three yards from wall, God,
Speaker 1: from wall to the other side of the door. And
Speaker 1: this is a smaller hallway that that wind could not
Speaker 1: have couldn't have affected it. You know. Also, my bedroom
Speaker 1: is a is a place that I am always I am
Speaker 1: a little uh No, I'm not afraid of it because
Speaker 1: I definitely find some fantastic relaxation and and and and
Speaker 1: I do bedroom things in that bedroom, and I'm not
Speaker 1: afraid of it. But my boyfriend was We were asleep
Speaker 1: one night and in the middle of the night, he's like, hey,
Speaker 1: did you feel that He's like I'm like, what is
Speaker 1: everything okay? And he's like, no, he's like, it's everything's fine.
Speaker 1: He's like, but I literally felt someone sit on the
Speaker 1: corner of the bed, on his side of the bed,
Speaker 1: like on the very corner. And I was like, that
Speaker 1: is really interesting because while I was while I was
Speaker 1: away in Provincetown, I had a friend staying here in
Speaker 1: this apartment and they mentioned the same thing in the bedroom.
Speaker 1: They said that while in the bedroom, they were convinced
Speaker 1: that someone had completely sat down their entire weight onto
Speaker 1: the bed and they felt someone on the edge of
Speaker 1: the bed. So something happened in this hallway that connects
Speaker 1: my room to the bedroom to the to the living space.
Speaker 1: But there's this one little nook and this closet door
Speaker 1: too that's in this particular hallway constantly opens on its
Speaker 1: own and I can slam it shut, I can put
Speaker 1: a thing on it, but it constantly opens on me.
Speaker 2: And this isn't scary to you.
Speaker 1: Not really. I mean, I don't really have a choice.
Speaker 1: I don't. I love this apartment and I and I
Speaker 1: respect and honor the history of it. I don't know
Speaker 1: exactly who lived in this apartment, uh, you know, and
Speaker 1: my neighbor. I live in a complex that's very much
Speaker 1: I compare it to like the Melrose Place, but with
Speaker 1: like a bunch of queer gays over thirty. And we
Speaker 1: we you know, we often stroll around in the courtyard
Speaker 1: in kaftans and Moroccan slippers and we talk, and we
Speaker 1: talk a lot about the different things that happened within
Speaker 1: this building. And one of my name my one of
Speaker 1: my neighbors, who has lived here longer than I have,
Speaker 1: has mentioned the story of a little girl. Oh, here
Speaker 1: we go. He said that I don't know. He says, yeah,
Speaker 1: He's like, you're not the first one to ever sperience anything.
Speaker 1: In fact, there's a story that that's told quite often
Speaker 1: with a lot of the tenants that there's either they
Speaker 1: hear the sound of a little girl or they see
Speaker 1: the figure of like a little girl running around or
Speaker 1: so something. There's a there's a child spirit perhaps somewhere
Speaker 1: in here.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Carol Channing or what, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't really know. I think I think she was
Speaker 1: just like, well that one seems to be that it
Speaker 1: was it wasn't in a frame, So maybe she was
Speaker 1: being respectful and she's like, well, I want to fuck
Speaker 1: up the frame of a good frame. You know, maybe
Speaker 1: she was maybe, maybe she's a considerate ghost who appreciates
Speaker 1: the antiques that I have in here, because it was
Speaker 1: really one that was unframed. It was just the canvas
Speaker 1: of Carol Channing flying across. So I actually love it
Speaker 1: until I feel threatened by it, you know, will I move?
Speaker 1: But no, I'm I'm actually fascinated by it, and I
Speaker 1: am I almost prefer my my buildings with a little
Speaker 1: bit of a little bit of ghost flavor in it.
Speaker 1: You know, is do you have.
Speaker 3: Any interest in doing a say once or getting someone
Speaker 3: in there and and you know, maybe a medium or
Speaker 3: something like that.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think about that, and I you know, and
Speaker 1: I've done some research through friends, I've asked about it,
Speaker 1: and one day I will It's not a priority. Again,
Speaker 1: it's not anything that I'm afraid of. And until it
Speaker 1: does scare me, then then I'll take those those measures.
Speaker 1: But otherwise I'm fine with it. I actually find it
Speaker 1: quite like sweet.
Speaker 2: Is that I find that beautiful?
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I if I was to have a ghost, I would
Speaker 3: want one like that. I I don't have one currently.
Speaker 3: I understand why people find that stuff creepy, and and
Speaker 3: I think that people's upbringings or what they learn from
Speaker 3: horror movies or whatever can inform how they feel about
Speaker 3: stuff like that. Some people might interpret, oh my god,
Speaker 3: they through a painting that means that this this it's
Speaker 3: a demon and they're going to try to kill me,
Speaker 3: or you know whatever. But it seems like you have
Speaker 3: a pretty good grasp on it, and and you know
Speaker 3: your your gut instincts around it, and it sounds like
Speaker 3: it's a really sweet thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not afraid yet. It hasn't done anything really threatening,
Speaker 1: so I'm I'm okay with it. But I also, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm an I'm a crazy, crazy vintage and thrift shopper,
Speaker 1: same crazy crazy about it my entire life. And when
Speaker 1: I pick clothing or items, you know, whether it be
Speaker 1: furniture or whatever, I always always think about who previously
Speaker 1: owned it. And in some ways I'm even more fascinated
Speaker 1: to know that, you know that I'm taking the things
Speaker 1: of people who have passed. For instance, when I lived
Speaker 1: in West Hollywood, out of the Closet had a series
Speaker 1: of dresses, all sort of like lycra ish of a
Speaker 1: certain style and length and they and it belonged to
Speaker 1: one person. I knew it right away that it belonged
Speaker 1: to one person, because it was all the same size,
Speaker 1: and they all had a lot of bazazz and flare
Speaker 1: to it. And it just so happened that that week
Speaker 1: or the previous week before those things appeared at out
Speaker 1: of the closet Hollywood Line, Hollywood Lawn passed away, who was.
Speaker 2: A big rhol legend, right.
Speaker 1: And I firmly, firmly believe that because I met Hollywood Lawn,
Speaker 1: and I firmly believe that many of those those dresses
Speaker 1: that were that I found there probably belonged to her.
Speaker 1: And and uh, if they did or they did not,
Speaker 1: I I don't know. My strong my my feelings says
Speaker 1: that they belong to her. So I liked her. You know,
Speaker 1: when I when I hold those items or have those
Speaker 1: items in my possession, I always think about the previous
Speaker 1: owners and and and a lot of them, you know
Speaker 1: me have died, you know, and they would have probably
Speaker 1: been really quite happy to know that I took over
Speaker 1: those things and that I own those things and will
Speaker 1: wear them proudly and showcase them in one way or another.
Speaker 1: So so I definitely have like like cozy sentimental feelings
Speaker 1: to other people's belongings.
Speaker 3: Do you so, do you do any because I I
Speaker 3: they call me the bargain bin beauty ros Dresfalas, and
Speaker 3: I am I have spent years in a thrift store
Speaker 3: and antique store and.
Speaker 2: All the stuff.
Speaker 3: And people love to tell me all the time that
Speaker 3: you need to burn some sage around it, you need
Speaker 3: to light some palo santo, you need to do something
Speaker 3: to cleanse it of its previous energies.
Speaker 2: And I said, doesn't tell people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do that, and maybe I have once or twice,
Speaker 3: but I like, I want to just risk it.
Speaker 2: I wanna. I want to. I want to. I want
Speaker 2: a little bit of that story, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know, if I have a
Speaker 1: bundle of sage around occasionally, I'll you know, light it
Speaker 1: up and do a stroll around my apartment and say
Speaker 1: a prayer and an incantation or whatever I think works
Speaker 1: at that moment. But it's not a it's not a
Speaker 1: priority for me. I'm not like, yeah, everything has to
Speaker 1: be good. Well, they might need to be thrown in
Speaker 1: a washing machine, that's what damn right you do?
Speaker 2: Taro as well.
Speaker 1: Right, I'm dabbling it. I want you know, I'm always
Speaker 1: so fascinated with all of those things. And I, you know,
Speaker 1: and I collect tarot cards. Have your own deck, right,
Speaker 1: I do have my own back, Yeah, I do, and
Speaker 1: you can. You can purchase them at Raja Gemini dot com.
Speaker 1: Go to my Instagram. It's in my store there. But yeah,
Speaker 1: my fascination with tarot came from the first reading I
Speaker 1: ever had, which was probably nineteen ninety three, and I
Speaker 1: and I you know, was fascinated and so fans people
Speaker 1: friends will always buy me different types of terrort and
Speaker 1: I have quite a collection and a staff that's built
Speaker 1: up and I love them. I love them for the
Speaker 1: art and I love them for the guidance. And it's
Speaker 1: a tool, you know, it's it's a it's tool and
Speaker 1: it can be fun.
Speaker 2: So you know you view it as like.
Speaker 3: Spirits guiding it or you know, that kind of a thing.
Speaker 1: I think, so, yeah, definitely it really it really, Yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: I think I think it's just sort of manifesting and
Speaker 1: inviting it, inviting that concept when you use these tools,
Speaker 1: you know, So yes, I do believe in that. I do.
Speaker 3: Do you have do you have any stories working at
Speaker 3: like haunted venues.
Speaker 2: I've been shocked sometimes to hear.
Speaker 3: Like drag performers or nightlight performers tell me stories of
Speaker 3: like haunted dressing rooms or haunted clubs or things like that.
Speaker 2: Have you ever had anything like that?
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that I've had any incidences that that,
Speaker 1: uh you know that that I would say was like
Speaker 1: pretty significant in saying, oh my god, there was a
Speaker 1: ghost in this one dressing room in this club. But uh,
Speaker 1: there's definitely moments when I walked into a room or
Speaker 1: a dressing room or a club where I'm just like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, wow, something happened here, something, something tells me that,
Speaker 1: something tells me in my heart, in my bones, in
Speaker 1: my spirit, you know, you walk in and you get
Speaker 1: the chills in your And I've even asked club owners
Speaker 1: as I walked in, I'm like, how old is this building?
Speaker 1: And they'll tell me and they'll be like, and I'll
Speaker 1: just ask, I'm like, are there any like moments or
Speaker 1: stories of ghosts or anything, And they're like, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, I fucking knew it. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you could just tell when you go into a place
Speaker 1: and you and there's a certain thing in the air,
Speaker 1: and I don't always know how to describe what that
Speaker 1: feeling is. It's just it's a presence. It's like you're
Speaker 1: not alone. You know, you're other than the living people
Speaker 1: that are obviously there with you. There's definitely other spirits
Speaker 1: and other there's something there, there's and it almost becomes
Speaker 1: emotional too, when you walk in and you feel that.
Speaker 1: Does that happen to you?
Speaker 3: I can't think off the top of my head. I've
Speaker 3: had more experiences with like theaters than club. I feel
Speaker 3: like whenever I'm working at a club, I'm always so
Speaker 3: distracted by so many things, and I'm usually not alone.
Speaker 3: I feel like it's kind of hard for me to
Speaker 3: pick up on stuff when I'm around gigantic personalities, like
Speaker 3: pick up on energies that aren't connected to a human
Speaker 3: But I.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: Jasmine masters, she told me that that place in Orange County,
Speaker 3: I believe.
Speaker 2: It was called Velvet.
Speaker 3: It was Santa Anna that that that dressing room was
Speaker 3: known to be very haunted.
Speaker 1: Interesting, I wonder why, I wonder what it was.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Jasmine also smokes a ton of weeds, so you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying like, I don't know is it is
Speaker 1: it just stone or paranoia or.
Speaker 2: I think there might be something to it.
Speaker 3: I think that there's something to smoke and weed and
Speaker 3: see and ghost. But okay, so do you have any
Speaker 3: other stories that you'd like to share?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well I don't know. It's kind of well,
Speaker 1: it's a long story. Well no, it's not. Okay. So
Speaker 1: when I was living when I was living in Bali,
Speaker 1: which is where I grew up in Indonesia, there's a
Speaker 1: particular holiday there called Yee and yet Pee is happens
Speaker 1: once a year and it is pretty much what would
Speaker 1: be the Balanese Hindu equivalent to Day of the Dead.
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
Speaker 1: And it is a very respected holiday there. And everyone
Speaker 1: takes pretty much the week off and you're you're forced
Speaker 1: to not use electricity, to not use power, to stay
Speaker 1: off of the streets. It's like a like a like
Speaker 1: sort of what the pandemic was, a lockdown's lockdown and
Speaker 1: and there's only certain allotted areas and times of day
Speaker 1: for prayers and for the ceremonies and rituals that are involved.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a Hindu holiday, but but the idea
Speaker 1: behind it is that it is the one time in
Speaker 1: the year where the spirits return, and and the silence
Speaker 1: and the quiet is something that's required to not disturb
Speaker 1: or agitate any negative spirits. I think that's how it works.
Speaker 1: But I was I was very much a small kid
Speaker 1: when this, when this happened, and my older sister, Rahana,
Speaker 1: who was three years older than me, you know, I
Speaker 1: was probably about six or seven, and my parents decided
Speaker 1: that that we would we would somehow cheat because my
Speaker 1: you know, we're pretty much Westerners, like my mom grew
Speaker 1: up mostly in the US. So she was like, be
Speaker 1: damned if we can't watch TV and have some air
Speaker 1: conditioning in this you know, tropical country. So we foiled
Speaker 1: all the windows like tweakers, uh, put cardboard, you know,
Speaker 1: and we we pretty much like in the evenings, would
Speaker 1: lock ourselves into our parents' room and we would we would,
Speaker 1: you know, because there there was there was there was
Speaker 1: surveillance and security on the streets that would make sure
Speaker 1: that people weren't acting up or causing any kind of
Speaker 1: ruckus or noise or and that they were actually abiding
Speaker 1: by these particular rules and laws of Pe. So a
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of expats and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: non Indonesian people would actually go to hotels and stay
Speaker 1: during this time and leave their homes and inhabit hotels
Speaker 1: because that was the only place that where electricity and
Speaker 1: such was allowed. So anyway, my older sister Rahana and
Speaker 1: I decided that we were going to sneak out of
Speaker 1: the room and we were going to go grab something
Speaker 1: from our bedroom. And and the entire house is dark. Now,
Speaker 1: if you can imagine Indonesia, this is probably late seventies,
Speaker 1: early early early eighties, nineteen eighty perhaps, you know, And
Speaker 1: we were two little kids running around in a very
Speaker 1: dark house with only the sound of nature around us,
Speaker 1: including crickets and frogs. And you know, this is Bali.
Speaker 1: It's lush, so and the sound of nature happening around us.
Speaker 1: And so we were we stuck into our bedrooms to
Speaker 1: get whatever toy we wanted. And then we decided we
Speaker 1: were just going to stay and kind of be rebellious.
Speaker 1: And so the two of us crawled under our bed
Speaker 1: and hung out there and we just giggled, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, like you would do like when you when
Speaker 1: you create a fort with your cousins or your family
Speaker 1: members or whatever, and you would just kind of be
Speaker 1: giggling underneath, you know, the structure, and we were underneath
Speaker 1: the bed and till today, my sister Rohanna and I
Speaker 1: will we'll tell this story often, and she's like, she remembers,
Speaker 1: I remember my mom calling us like what are you
Speaker 1: guys doing? Get back in here. And so we were like,
Speaker 1: we were scared shitless. We were like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: And the sound of my mom's voice like shooting through
Speaker 1: the dark, calling in English, telling us to get back
Speaker 1: into the room. And so we ran back, you know,
Speaker 1: we scurried into the room and we were terrified because
Speaker 1: we were like, oh my gosh, Mom's gonna be so
Speaker 1: mad at us. And we went into the room and
Speaker 1: she's like and and we were, you know, tiptoeing in
Speaker 1: because we didn't want to get in trouble. And we
Speaker 1: walked in and my mom's like, hey, what took you
Speaker 1: guys so long? And Rahanna says, well, Mom, didn't you
Speaker 1: call us? And she's like no, She's like I been
Speaker 1: sitting here just hanging out. My dad was in the
Speaker 1: room with her, and Rahana's like, no, we heard you
Speaker 1: yelling at us to get into the room. She's like nope,
Speaker 1: not me, wasn't me. So you know, either my mom
Speaker 1: is lying to us, which I don't think, because my
Speaker 1: mom is one of those people who's also very aware
Speaker 1: and intuitive of such things. Until today, you know, decades later,
Speaker 1: we still tell this story of how whatever entity was
Speaker 1: in the area didn't want us kids being bad and
Speaker 1: told us to get back into the fucking room in
Speaker 1: the dark, and it was terrifying. So there's that story
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 2: That's a good one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's always interesting too when I hear these
Speaker 4: stories where it's like some spirit or whatever is doing
Speaker 4: an impression of.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, and I and I think that that
Speaker 1: that does exist. I think that is something that happens
Speaker 1: quite often, and and that's exactly what this story is about. It.
Speaker 1: It was something mimicked, you know, my mother's voice to
Speaker 1: give us the message like, hey, don't fuck around, go
Speaker 1: get back in there before something gets you.
Speaker 2: So, I don't know if you heard.
Speaker 3: During the it was like very early pandemic, there was
Speaker 3: the story that people in this village in Indonesia were
Speaker 3: volunteering as ghosts to oh yes, roll off of the street.
Speaker 3: They were dressing as ghosts to keep people off of
Speaker 3: the street. And to keep them inside so if people
Speaker 3: were wandering out, they would spook them and scare them
Speaker 3: back into the house so that they wouldn't be spreading COVID.
Speaker 1: That is a real thing. That is a real thing.
Speaker 1: I remember that, and I and I and I and
Speaker 1: I saw the image of the ghosts, and I forget
Speaker 1: what they're called. But the particular way of wrapping dead
Speaker 1: people there uh looks a lot like how you would
Speaker 1: roll a joint like there's a knot. There's a knot,
Speaker 1: there's a knot, or a twist on like that. You
Speaker 1: would roll the body into a sheet like a burrito,
Speaker 1: and then you would twist or not the top and
Speaker 1: bottom where the feet and the head would be, and
Speaker 1: the only thing that would be left exposed is the face.
Speaker 1: And that that's kind of like the traditional burial shroud,
Speaker 1: I suppose. And so I forget what they're calling. They're
Speaker 1: called wachong or something like that. There's a name for it.
Speaker 1: But when I saw that article and I saw the
Speaker 1: image of it, that was something that people that people
Speaker 1: are actually fearful of. It's because it's really because a
Speaker 1: lot many many called many parts of Indonesia believe that
Speaker 1: that spirits will take on a very physical form and
Speaker 1: and and and not just in the ghost spirit way,
Speaker 1: but it'll come and get you. So yeah, that's it
Speaker 1: is p O c O ener g. Yeah, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: that's what it's called. It's called and it's like and
Speaker 1: they bounce like the hop you know, because they're they're
Speaker 1: tight in their shrouds and instead of floating the they
Speaker 1: literally hop and chase you.
Speaker 3: And uh and uh, hey it works.
Speaker 1: I kept the people kept their asses at home. They
Speaker 1: were like, let's scare them. It's like it's it's equivalent
Speaker 1: to like, you know, a white sheet, you know, and
Speaker 1: with two holes in it.
Speaker 3: So sure, can I play some ghost voices?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Where'd you find these at?
Speaker 2: Well, let me introduce this little segment real quick. It's
Speaker 2: time for EVP or ev please, So, Roger, this is
Speaker 2: what I do.
Speaker 3: I go to YouTube and I look up EVPs.
Speaker 2: Do you know what that is? EVP?
Speaker 3: No, it stands for Electronic voice phenomenal. It's when ghost
Speaker 3: hunters believe they've captured a ghost speaking could be from
Speaker 3: any kind of recording device. Really, and uh, there's thousands
Speaker 3: of clips of this on YouTube, and some of them
Speaker 3: are EVPs some of them are ev Police and.
Speaker 2: Of RuPaul's Drag Race.
Speaker 3: No, I don't believe they are, but I will. I'll
Speaker 3: play you two of them and i'll play it for
Speaker 3: you and then i'll have you guess and I'm gonna
Speaker 3: give you a multiple choice, and one of them is
Speaker 3: what these particular ghost hunters believe the ghost is saying.
Speaker 1: So uh.
Speaker 3: Both of these are from a YouTube channel called Team
Speaker 3: s E r T. And this first one is at
Speaker 3: Penhurst State School, which I believe is in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: And I don't know, it's kind of sexy. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Tell me if you hear anything here. Okay, I'll play
Speaker 3: it again. It's like a whisper. There is some background noise,
Speaker 3: but it's like a whisper.
Speaker 1: All right again, Okay, Okay, I heard hot snatch, hot snatch.
Speaker 3: Let me give you some options because that is not it. No, No,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: And I could I could see, you know, a spirit
Speaker 1: wanting missing some hot snatch and just needing it so.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: Is it a you look crunchy? It could be a
Speaker 3: shady ghost. Is it be balcony? Is it se they
Speaker 3: all can see ew? Or is it d Carol Channing.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Carol Channing. I think you played again.
Speaker 2: Let me hear what were Okay, Okay, now I hear
Speaker 2: Carol Channing.
Speaker 1: I'm still hearing hot snatch.
Speaker 3: Okay, well they believe it is. They all can see. Wait,
Speaker 3: that's a creepy thing, like a ghost being, like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, these ghost hunter people can see us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, I could hear I can see yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay, this next one.
Speaker 3: So both of these I actually just played at my
Speaker 3: live Ghosted podcast that I did at Casita del.
Speaker 2: Cane here in La and.
Speaker 3: I this next one is one of the funniest things
Speaker 3: I've ever found. Maybe it's because I've spent so many
Speaker 3: hours of my life looking for EVPs and I've never
Speaker 3: found one quite like this. I don't know if my
Speaker 3: audience found it as funny as I did, but I
Speaker 3: happened to be. I happened to stumble upon this jewel
Speaker 3: and it kills me.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: The title of this video says, investigator breaks wind and
Speaker 3: then a ghost says something after the fart that you
Speaker 3: will hear. And this is at the Elk Lodge in
Speaker 3: tamac Qua, Pennsylvania, and so you're gonna hear a fart
Speaker 3: and then resist laughing and listen in for a ghost
Speaker 3: replying to the fart.
Speaker 2: All right, here we go.
Speaker 1: That's the whole thing. Wait, do it again.
Speaker 3: I think I think that somebody farted and they heard
Speaker 3: some kind of noise and they are like, damn it,
Speaker 3: we have to keep the fart in. Also, ps, I
Speaker 3: played this for Jackie Beat and she she thought that
Speaker 3: this was like a viral video that was going I'm like, no, Jackie,
Speaker 3: there's like one hundred and fifteen views on it, and
Speaker 3: like at least one hundred of them are from me
Speaker 3: watching this over and over again. It's just a video
Speaker 3: I found online. But okay, there's a fart and then
Speaker 3: a ghost saying something allegedly, here we go.
Speaker 1: Noise because because I'm still a junior, a twelve year old,
Speaker 1: thirteen year old boy in middle school. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that that part is epic.
Speaker 3: I don't know that I even hear any words coming
Speaker 3: from I hear a noise, but I don't know if
Speaker 3: I hear any words.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I can fart that loud.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think. I don't think I
Speaker 1: have enough like passage. I don't have a very I don't.
Speaker 1: My ass doesn't have a lot of volume, so so
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of like space for air to
Speaker 1: pass through to create that that wonderful rattling sound.
Speaker 3: I think that this ghost center just wants to show
Speaker 3: off that fart. All right, so do you do you
Speaker 3: have any guesses for what that ghost is saying after
Speaker 3: that fart?
Speaker 1: It sounds like it was like fart sound then went
Speaker 1: to like like she sure or.
Speaker 3: Or yeah yeah, like yeahs an unpleased sound. Not approving
Speaker 3: of that part. Well, let me give you some options.
Speaker 3: Is it so the fart happens, and then is it
Speaker 3: a damn that smells bad?
Speaker 2: Is it? B? Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could play on it.
Speaker 2: Is it B? I don't like that?
Speaker 3: Is it C it's got a kick to it? Or
Speaker 3: d who's playing a trumpet? All right, let me play
Speaker 3: it again and tell me if you hear one of those.
Speaker 1: I think I think it was part sound And they said,
Speaker 1: Carol Channing.
Speaker 2: They believe it is.
Speaker 1: I don't like that, Oh my god, god.
Speaker 3: Which I kind of here, wait, let me just one
Speaker 3: more time, all right, here it is.
Speaker 2: I don't like it.
Speaker 1: I don't like it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, they think it's I don't like it or
Speaker 3: I don't like that.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I do you think that ghosts,
Speaker 1: like you know, spirits from another realm, can smell or
Speaker 1: have any disapproval of human bodily functions.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm sure they can hear, because you know, people will
Speaker 3: say are you here, and then they reply, So I'm
Speaker 3: sure they can hear your farts.
Speaker 2: I believe. I have this theory.
Speaker 3: I've said before that I believe that farts are the
Speaker 3: ghost of food because food has died in your body
Speaker 3: and it is now coming out in another form.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: And so there might they they might appear. It might
Speaker 3: appear like an actual green cloud to a ghost.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know either. Wow. So many questions part of.
Speaker 3: The mystery of life and the big secrets, the big
Speaker 3: questions we ask have you ever been ghost stunting?
Speaker 1: Uh? Not No, not intentionally. I like, you know, Like
Speaker 1: I said, I spend a lot of time in Provincetown
Speaker 1: and one of the things that they do is they
Speaker 1: have a ghost tour that you can hit, a walking tour,
Speaker 1: and there's a you know, and there's a a guide
Speaker 1: and she's wearing a cape and she's holding a kerosene
Speaker 1: lantern and she she guides the people through, you know,
Speaker 1: for the ambiance and experience. Always wanted to do that.
Speaker 1: And also I always wanted to go in the ghost
Speaker 1: tours that they provide on the Hollywood tours, you know,
Speaker 1: like when you go to Hollywood Bulevard and they have
Speaker 1: like all these tours for visitors to go see, and
Speaker 1: they go to specific places that are known to be
Speaker 1: haunted or certain crimes murders have happened, you know, So
Speaker 1: those things I've always always wanted to go to.
Speaker 3: But I don't know, it's just a lot of times
Speaker 3: I feel like like ghostly things don't happen on them.
Speaker 3: They're fun, especially if you're like on a trip someplace
Speaker 3: and you want to learn about like the the dark
Speaker 3: history of the place or whatever. But most of the
Speaker 3: time I feel that you're not going to see a
Speaker 3: ghost or a ghost react to your farts or anything
Speaker 3: like that. But you maybe hear a couple of good stories.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean, especially in Hollywood if they you know,
Speaker 1: they're always telling you that they're going to take you
Speaker 1: to celebrities home and stuff and you're gonna you might
Speaker 1: see the celebrity, but you probably won't, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, Raja, you have been a true dream. You've
Speaker 3: been a dream guest for a while. I mean, we
Speaker 3: have a billion mutual friends, and I'm always weird about
Speaker 3: like asking friends to like hook me up with their friends.
Speaker 2: But I've I've just waited for the right moment. I
Speaker 2: happened to you know what you know and to you you.
Speaker 1: Know what that's called. It's called what networking?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I suppose I love it.
Speaker 3: I love a good network, but I don't want to
Speaker 3: be like, hey, can you like give me your friend's
Speaker 3: number or whatever.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just like weird. So I've just
Speaker 2: like waited for the right time.
Speaker 3: I told myself one day, I'm gonna run into Raja,
Speaker 3: and if it comes up, it comes up, because you've
Speaker 3: been a dream guest for a long time and you've
Speaker 3: made my dream come true.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, I believe. I believe in timing.
Speaker 1: I believe that you know, when we meet people at
Speaker 1: certain times and finally get to reach out and have
Speaker 1: the conversations we are or whatever, when you just you know,
Speaker 1: get to what you know it is what it is,
Speaker 1: and timing is everything. So we just happened to run
Speaker 1: in to each other and we're Marys the other afternoon
Speaker 1: and here we are together talking about paranormal activities.
Speaker 2: So can you tell people where to find you?
Speaker 1: You can find me at my Instagram. It's at sutan
Speaker 1: am Roll, which is my birth name, and usually Instagram
Speaker 1: will tell you. Instagram is really kind of the only
Speaker 1: thing I use now. I don't use Facebook as much anymore,
Speaker 1: if ever, but yeah, that'll tell you where I'm at,
Speaker 1: where I'm touring, and you can find my merch you can.
Speaker 1: You know, we'll certainly be advertising and showcasing this conversation
Speaker 1: that we're having now on my Instagram. So thank you.
Speaker 2: And let's not forget the pod.
Speaker 1: Just tell people my podcast very that Yep, it's part
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Speaker 1: great joys of my week is to get to record
Speaker 1: my podcast with Delta, so pay attention to.
Speaker 2: The joys my week too.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And other than that, yeah, that's pretty much and
Speaker 1: still fashion photo review once in a while, trying to
Speaker 1: wean myself a little bit off.
Speaker 2: Of that on YouTube, right, Yeah, yeah, not weaning.
Speaker 1: Myself off, but I just think that there's a room
Speaker 1: for other queens. So I'm enjoying seeing people like Nikki
Speaker 1: Doll and Alexis Matteo participate in the process. But I
Speaker 1: still do that and yeah, there's various things that I do.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, Well, Raja, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: You're welcome. Thank you for having me. This was such
Speaker 1: a fun conversation.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much to Raja. Oh that was magical.
Speaker 3: If you want to hear a little bit extra, go
Speaker 3: to patreon dot com slash razz blesa my second tier.
Speaker 3: You can hear me talking to Raja about various explain phenomenal.
Speaker 3: And this week I also posted a video on my
Speaker 3: first hear of me talking about well, it's a video
Speaker 3: of me and my experience at Elvira's auction. Alvira, my idol,
Speaker 3: Cassandra Peterson auctioned off a bunch of iconic stuff and
Speaker 3: you'll see my experience with that in that video. You know,
Speaker 3: it's something I should point out. I took off Thanksgiving,
Speaker 3: and I the week before I told you that I
Speaker 3: was gonna take off Thanksgiving, and then I started getting
Speaker 3: all these messages and people in the Facebook group.
Speaker 2: And dming me and emailing me, where are you? Are
Speaker 2: you okay?
Speaker 3: I hope something bad didn't happen to you. And I
Speaker 3: told you I was gonna be gone for just a week,
Speaker 3: and so I'm fine. I'm back, obviously, and I did
Speaker 3: post a full length episode on Patreon. But I'm gonna
Speaker 3: be doing the same exact thing over the holidays. I'll
Speaker 3: be doing it the thirtieth, the last weekend or last
Speaker 3: Thursday of December. I will also be taking off the
Speaker 3: week from this main feed. So you have been warned.
Speaker 3: I will be fine. You will be fine, and I
Speaker 3: appreciate that you guys care about me so much. Please
Speaker 3: be subscribed to the show and rate it five stars.
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Speaker 3: I'm on Instagram at roz Hernandez cameos. Those are a
Speaker 3: great gift for Christmas time. I'm on there at Roz
Speaker 3: dres Vales. And that's enough out of me.
Speaker 2: I love you all, both living and dead. But if
Speaker 2: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me.
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