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We're we're honored to grace 21 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 3: the airways down in Tampa, Florida. 22 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 2: That's awesome, man. 23 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 3: You know, the first place I ever had wingstop was 24 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 3: in Tampa, Florida. 25 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got a problem. 26 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 4: Rop. 27 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 3: I was driving around you know the first place you 28 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 3: had wings stop? Yes, extremely because I didn't know what 29 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 3: it was. I saw a thing wing. Okay, what year 30 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 3: are we in? Oh? 31 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 2: This is a long time ago. But I was like, okay, like, 32 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: let me try this place. Because you were a Buffalo 33 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:40,559 Speaker 2: wild wing man. Yeah about that point. 34 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, they did have the game on lock for now, 35 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,559 Speaker 5: but I'll come that way. We did a poll here. 36 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 5: WELLMONTI doesn't eat good food. I mean, so she doesn't count. 37 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: You did you? When did you stop eating meat again? 38 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: Ten years ago? All right? 39 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 5: So if it came down to a rock, I said, 40 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 5: one or the other for the rest of your life. 41 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You know I heard that. 42 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: You you hear that. 43 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 6: You want to repeat that one more time? 44 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: Go ahead, just keep going, all right? That's just so ridiculous. 45 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 2: Manti's over there, Rob g Alex Manti nothing. 46 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 5: It was funny and Rob, Rob's and Alex put the 47 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 5: metaphorical gun to your head. Buffalo Wild Wings are wingstop 48 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 5: only one for the rest of your life? 49 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: All right? Monty said wing stop. 50 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 3: Even you don't eat I would say, I would say 51 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 3: wings stop to as much as I like Buffalo, I 52 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 3: would say wing stop. 53 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 5: Or wingstop wing stop, So I'm wings stop to when 54 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 5: did they like take over the game? 55 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 2: That like that? And their fries are really good f 56 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: they have not right Buffo wksto saying I'm saying Buffalo 57 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 2: white wings was the kind of just in your natural 58 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: When did wings stop take over? 59 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 7: You? 60 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: Ready to fight me so much? Listen? 61 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 6: But wing Stop has always been number eight since I 62 00:02:59,919 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 6: was in high school. 63 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: It was number one. 64 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 5: It's it's it's so you you spent twenty years and 65 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 5: it was not b doves was buble wings was They 66 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 5: had a lock for a long slowly kind of crept 67 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 5: into the market and next thing. 68 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 6: You know, you're like, can I make a sports reference 69 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 6: for you? 70 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:22,399 Speaker 5: Okay, well you know today's tas Okay, they don't listen 71 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 5: to the. 72 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 8: Next hour, Okay, so check this out. Basically, what it 73 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 8: was is wing Stop is the Cowboys. It's like America's team. 74 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 8: They were the first big wing place. But wings Stop 75 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 8: is like the Patriots. They came through dominated and we 76 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 8: kind of forget how big they are. 77 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 5: Okay, so you met Buffeo, Yeah, got wing stuff on 78 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 5: the brain. 79 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 8: He can't even they're so good Buffalo, we like talk 80 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 8: like they've done stuff? 81 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 6: What have they done lately? 82 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 3: But here's the other thing too, Alex, you're a little 83 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,839 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not so sure you could be the 84 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 3: best judger of the wing Stop Why phenomenal? 85 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: Because you know, Jason Smith and I ordered to get 86 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: you to listen. 87 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 3: To all four hours will buy you. 88 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 6: I will say it's always Wingstop. 89 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 5: So you're saying he's only had wings stuff because that's 90 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 5: all he gets fed. 91 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, what Jason does is it is incredible? 92 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 2: Is the show the show? 93 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 7: Oh? 94 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 2: No, I thought someone would bribe us listen to this show? 95 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 2: Battle for Rell, Battle for all? You know what? 96 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 5: All right, we're gonn gonna get We'll get some wings tomorrow. 97 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 5: You can wait tomorrow on the Boy on your. 98 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: Boy be here tomorrow. I know I'm not Elijah put 99 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 2: up the magic Johnson today. 100 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 6: Oh you're not here. 101 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: No, I didn't. I didn't say that here wings. 102 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 3: I love wings Stop, Fries and Ranch, anticipate on Thursdays, 103 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:50,799 Speaker 3: Fries and Ranch any day. 104 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 2: Are we in high school? 105 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 9: Yes? 106 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 6: That was a high school mab Yes, And I'm still eat. 107 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: Because I was mountain doing mountain doing fries was all 108 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 2: I eate in high school. If I stuck around, do 109 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: we have to wait till what Monday? 110 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 4: Wait? 111 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 2: Who's not here saying you're not here on Monday? Wait, 112 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: you're not here? Rob G's out tomorrow. 113 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 5: It's fine, you can still get no, no, no, we'll get 114 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 5: wings the next seven days or whatever. 115 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 3: We'll get when we're in full. Everybody's here. Yeah, don't forget. 116 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 3: Joe Varton, who covers the NBA, can get wings too. 117 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: Uh in Cleveland. Want to send them all the way. 118 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 2: I'm in my Oprah bag. You get a win, you 119 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 2: get a wing. Everybody gets wings. 120 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 9: Uh. 121 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 3: He'll join us in about twenty five minutes or so. 122 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 3: Uh so we'll get to Joe Varton as well, and uh, 123 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 3: rob G. Let's talk about the Raiders and the idea 124 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 3: of maybe if they do get Mendoza at the first pick, 125 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 3: and they might decide that they're not going. 126 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 2: To rush him. 127 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 3: The general manager was talking about whether or not that 128 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 3: he starts right away. 129 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 10: Yeah, everybody's talking about the Raiders these days, right like 130 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 10: they're the top topic of conversation. 131 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 3: Of course, you know why, because they're not playing any 132 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 3: football so so they when they play football. 133 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 2: They're irrelevant. Off season has been for the Raider. You 134 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 2: can say that as a lie. 135 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 10: It really is now, yeah, you mentioned it. The Raiders 136 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 10: GM John Spytech was at the Combine this week. They're 137 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 10: all at the Combine right now, and. 138 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: The consensus seems to be that they're gonna take for 139 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: Nanda Mendozo, an ammennial. They can't say it out loud, 140 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: They're gonna take a quarterback. 141 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,119 Speaker 10: And one of the media members asked spy Tech about 142 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 10: the idea if you're going to take Mendoza or any 143 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 10: other quarterback starting him week one as your franchise guy 144 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 10: in spi Tex said, quote, I think you want to 145 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 10: limit the amount of. 146 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: Pressure on that guy from the start. 147 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 10: Now, if you have a young quarterback, I'm not necessarily 148 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 10: in favor of running him out there right away either, 149 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 10: So another quality player that can play the same position 150 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 10: if you have a young quarterback. And this kind of 151 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 10: echo something that Tom Brady said about a year and 152 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 10: a half ago before he even became part of the Raiders' organization. 153 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: He told friend of the show Steven A. 154 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 10: Smailey call M Steve that it was a quote tragedy 155 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 10: that teams nowadays are throwing young quarterbacks into the starting 156 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 10: lineup right off the bat before they've ever really learned 157 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 10: how to play the quarterback position in a classic way. 158 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 10: He says that rather than having them get to the 159 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 10: level that they need to be, we're moving our franchise 160 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 10: back to the level that they are to help them 161 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:08,679 Speaker 10: play right away. 162 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 3: That's one time that I agree with Tom Brady, like 163 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 3: there's something no, but there's something to it and. 164 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 4: Breaking news from Fox Sports. 165 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 3: There you go, right No, And what I mean is 166 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 3: everybody's different. When you have a prodigy, I have no 167 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 3: issue with it. You have a prodigy, they should play. 168 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: But everybody's not a prodigy, and everybody's not ready to play. 169 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 3: And you can make it to the Hall of Fame 170 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 3: without playing right away. 171 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers said, for three years. 172 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 5: Three. 173 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: What numbers would he have if he played those three years? 174 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: You need the most talented we've ever seen, Steve. 175 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 3: But you know what I'm saying, Like three years went 176 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 3: by and he didn't play, and he's still want to 177 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 3: put up all these numbers, four MVP, blah blah blah. 178 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 3: I want a super Bowl the whole nine yards, So 179 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: we've seen that what's his name, Richardson. 180 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 2: Do you think he was ready in Indianapolis? No, he 181 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: wasn't ready. Play like three games in college. They're like, 182 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: that's our guy, and they probably ruined him. 183 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 5: Well, now that that news today is that they're going 184 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 5: to allow him to look for a trade. 185 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 3: But do you know what I mean, like like like, 186 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 3: here's a young guy who had a lot of upside, 187 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 3: but they rushed him out there. He wasn't ready. And 188 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 3: my point is it's got to be on a case 189 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 3: to case basis. But just because you don't play somebody 190 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 3: from the very beginning doesn't mean that he can't develop 191 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 3: into it. We saw Zach Wilson with the Jets terrible, 192 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 3: you know, like there were guys who just weren't ready 193 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 3: to start in the NFL, and I think it has 194 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 3: to be And then you saw CJ. 195 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 2: Stroud play his first year. It was unbelievable. 196 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 3: Right, So there's the outlier, right, and Jaydeen Daniels there's 197 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 3: another outlier, And then what happened in their second year 198 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 3: is not as good. 199 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: Right. 200 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 5: I think you have to have an honest conversation with yourself. 201 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 5: If you're the owner, are you general manager? Down to 202 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 5: the coach, down to looking at the assistant coaches and 203 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 5: the team. What I mean by that is there are 204 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 5: times Rob g and I were talking about this. If 205 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 5: you're the Colts and you have Peyton manning for eons 206 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 5: and you're gray all the time, and then he's getting 207 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 5: nicked up, he's getting older, and and he leaves, and 208 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 5: then you stink and then you mess around and get 209 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 5: Andrew Luck. But you're not that bad. It's just your 210 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 5: lost Peyton. You know, you have pieces around you just 211 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 5: lose Peyton. And there are teams you know this in 212 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 5: the NFL, we talked about this all the time. 213 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: You can go from worse to first. You're not bad. 214 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 5: You just didn't lose those close games. So now you 215 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 5: only won four or five games. You might have the first, second, third. 216 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 3: But here's another thing, real quick, Yeah, okay, you got 217 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 3: your quarterback. He doesn't play right away, You two right 218 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 3: the next year and then the next third year on 219 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 3: a team where maybe he's gonna be a starter. Those 220 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 3: two years, you could get guys to block for him, 221 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, for lineman, you know what 222 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: I mean. And then all of a sudden, pieces and 223 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 3: then he's Okay, he's gonna be protected because we had 224 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 3: two more drafts to get other players to help. 225 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 5: You have to, in my opinion, if you're saying okay, 226 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 5: you either have to be a team that was already 227 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 5: built up. 228 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: And I'll give you an example. You mentioned CJ. Stroud. CJ. 229 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 5: Strout comes into a team that's got a defense. They 230 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 5: got some pieces around Jade and Daniels had some offensive 231 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 5: pieces of Justin Herbert. The Chargers are never without talent. 232 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 5: We've all known that for the last twenty five twenty 233 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 5: Remember when they couldn't score, they had a great defense, 234 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 5: and exactly so you look at these Ben Roethlisberger comes 235 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 5: right on into a team loaded with defense. They got 236 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 5: weapons on the outside, they got great running backs and 237 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 5: fast Willie Parker and Jerome Bettis. And so my point is, 238 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 5: you can bring these guys in and you can have success. 239 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 5: If you've had an honest conversation, we're not as bad 240 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 5: as we look. We have a top pick because something happened. 241 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,599 Speaker 5: It could have been injuries, or we just lost a 242 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 5: bunch of close games. We're actually a solid team. Then 243 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 5: you can be good. But if you're the Jets, if 244 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 5: you were the Panthers for a while. You don't have 245 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 5: any talent, guys are buying in. You don't have an identity, 246 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 5: you don't have any type of ethos where this is 247 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 5: who we are. Then you're just throwing a guy into 248 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 5: a garbage a tire fire, and you're asking him to 249 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 5: save us. 250 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 2: And he's a college kid. 251 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 5: He's a young man trying to figure out his way, 252 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 5: and it's not fair because you start to ruin his reputation, 253 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 5: ruin his mental capacity either. And it's confidence when nobody 254 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 5: on this staff is good. You don't even know if 255 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 5: the coach is good. So to me, there are for 256 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 5: select teams that can do this. They're built for it. 257 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 5: They know they got a guy. Maybe your quarterback just retires, 258 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 5: but the team is actually solid and you can throw 259 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 5: somebody in there. And I like that, though the Raiders 260 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 5: are saying, hey, hey, hey, hold on, we don't have 261 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 5: to do this, because you know, it reminds me of 262 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 5: It's when we talked about the NBA. What do we 263 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 5: say about tanking. If you were honest fans, we aren't 264 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 5: gonna be good. And if you don't want to come out, 265 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 5: I can understand that. Instead of a one hundred and 266 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 5: fifty dollars tickets. We're gonna put a cut him in 267 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 5: a half. Still come out of them ten dollars seats, 268 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 5: ten dollars seats, Come on in, enjoy it will have 269 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 5: you know, make fo dollar hot dogs, whatever whatever it is. 270 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 2: Because you're admitting it. 271 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 5: I kind of like the Raiders saying we're gonna come in, 272 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 5: We're gonna compete, but we don't. We want to build 273 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 5: up this team before we just throw a guy into 274 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 5: alliance pig. 275 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 2: So I'd rather my g and be honest. 276 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 5: Look, we're gonna slowly try to build this thing up, 277 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 5: get this thing right, and not just expect our rookie 278 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 5: to save us, who hasn't seen an NFL snap yet. 279 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 2: I liked them being honest and forward with that. Yeah, 280 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: rob Ge, where are you as a radio squad? Right? 281 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: Are you? Are you cool with this? 282 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 3: If they let this kid develop and then you know, 283 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 3: maybe in a couple of years, you know the Raiders 284 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 3: will have something going because what they've done in the 285 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 3: last few years, changing coaches, changing quarterbacks, they haven't gone anywhere. 286 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 2: Now. 287 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 10: I'm totally on board with them sitting him as long 288 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 10: as needed, because I mean pulling the curtain back. He's 289 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 10: not one of those top flight camp miss quarterback projects 290 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 10: to begin Joe Burrow. 291 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 2: No, this is not Joe Burrow. This is not Andrew Love. Absolutely, 292 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: this is not I. 293 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 10: Don't even like Sy. He's not even Caleb Williams. Like 294 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 10: where you say. The talent is so immense, I need 295 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 10: to get him out there. 296 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 2: When he saw him on Covino and Rich when you know, 297 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 2: Rob G, he wasn't on Covino on Ridge. Remember that 298 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: he got stolen. Bring that up. I'm sorry, Yeah, yeah, 299 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: he was supposed he just wrapped him up. What's up? 300 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 7: Y'all? 301 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 2: Excuse me? 302 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 3: But Rob G, tell me if I'm wrong. And I 303 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 3: didn't get real close to him or whatever. It looked 304 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 3: a little soft in the middle, like like Rob G. 305 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 10: No, I don't know if soft, but he's not like, Oh, 306 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 10: he's an incredible looking athlete, specimen type of dude. 307 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: That's what I know. What you mean. 308 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 5: A lot of quarterbacks they do that coming in because 309 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 5: you just haven't gotten to that level of oh wait 310 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 5: till you come You've seen. 311 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 2: Some guys and you go, okay. He looked like what 312 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 2: I'm just saying. 313 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 5: And also he was like I don't know, fifty feet 314 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 5: away from Cam Newton. Yeah, a steal a specimen. But 315 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 5: I'm just saying. 316 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 10: That that's a different thing. And so when you do 317 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 10: not have one of those transformational type of prospects, it 318 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 10: would behoove you to build out the rest of the 319 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 10: team around them before he throw them to the wolf. 320 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: And this is what I know. 321 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 5: The Steeler Nation doesn't like him right now, but Ben Roethlisberger, 322 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 5: this is what he was saying a couple of weeks back. 323 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 5: He was saying, Yo, I came into a great situation. 324 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 5: I walked right in. 325 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 2: I had talented receivers and all he did was locked the. 326 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 3: Door behind them. Oh guy, and things worked out. Oh 327 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I met at the practice facility. 328 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 5: Allegedly allegedly allegedly Rob Yeah, so they Hillis were good. 329 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 5: I don't know, you know, you know, I'm really quick witted, 330 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 5: but I don't even know how to follow that one up. 331 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 332 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 5: No, that's my point though, you and I'll give you 333 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 5: another example. He wasn't a rookie, but you brought him 334 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 5: up as far as liking what he said. Look at 335 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 5: Tom Brady, right, I mean Tom Brady was able to 336 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 5: come in for Drew Bletsoe to a team that had 337 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 5: played and. 338 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 2: If it wasn't for his injury, Tom Brady wouldn't have 339 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: played played. 340 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 3: Remember they were going to the super Bowl or had 341 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 3: a chance to win. 342 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 5: Bludsoe, Russell Wilson another guy. You come into a team 343 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 5: with a bunch of talent. I know it was supposed 344 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 5: to be Matt Flynn was supposed to be the starter, 345 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 5: but they're like, nah, nah, kid, it's gonna be just 346 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 5: the kid. But my point is, if you have talent around, 347 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 5: you can throw them in. We can lean on the 348 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 5: running game, lean on the defense, just get a quick 349 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 5: pass out to our star receivers. 350 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 10: Yeah, and I'm not against him playing Week one, but 351 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 10: he has to show throughout camp and in the offseason 352 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 10: that he's clearly the best guy. And if he's not, 353 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 10: then there's no harm in letting him sit four weeks, 354 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 10: even the whole season, if that's what it takes until 355 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 10: he's ready. 356 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 3: And that's what I'm saying, like a prodigy, you know 357 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 3: he could play, you put him out there. 358 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not going to hold the rest of 359 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 2: the quarterback room is so bad. You're like, hey, we 360 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 2: don't have a choice. 361 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 3: I don't have an issue with that if somebody's worth 362 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 3: it and they've shown that they can play, but just 363 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 3: putting him out there because right, and he's still learning 364 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 3: and just like. 365 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 2: Well he'll take his lumps in the game. 366 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 10: Well what if rob and if he gets there and 367 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 10: he's clearly better than Geno Smith, but like you said, 368 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 10: the rest of the team is just not where it 369 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 10: needs to be. 370 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 2: Put Gino Smith in there, really. 371 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 10: So you would run the risk of losing the locker 372 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 10: room by saying, Hey, even though this kid's better, we're 373 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 10: gonna win. 374 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 2: I would That's what the chiefs. 375 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 10: The Chiefs did, like everyone said they knew who mymes 376 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 10: was better than, but then they said we're sticking without. 377 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 3: I know, but they have won ten games with Alex 378 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 3: Smith that made the playoffs. 379 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: So it wasn't like Alex Smith can't play. And there 380 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 2: was whispers that was Aaron Rodgers, well Brett Farr right. 381 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 3: Like the people knew, they knew they had something, But 382 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 3: you had a Hall of Fame quarterback in Brett Farv 383 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 3: and you're not. 384 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 5: Going to make and that that to me, at least 385 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 5: you know the game plany meaning if you see Geno 386 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 5: ain't looking the greatest, but you're still gonna run him 387 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 5: out there, and you know, and Mendoza looks better then, 388 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 5: at least to me. Okay, I know the game playing 389 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 5: game plan is let Gino get four or five games in, 390 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 5: let us get knocked off the rust, let us get 391 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 5: it going, take a run, and then we roll Mendoz. 392 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 5: At least you know that right because they sitting around 393 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 5: they we talked about the players. 394 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 3: See why he can't take the law? What is that 395 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 3: Chris Boussa a picture right now? 396 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, he is staring at you right now. When that. 397 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 5: He is I'm gonna lie. You didn't see that last hour. 398 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 5: Took your hour in eighteen minutes to see it. 399 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 2: I didn't see it. 400 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 6: You should see what they did to your pick journ here, Rob. 401 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that's true. I did get a text at 402 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,719 Speaker 2: four to three this morning someone taking credit for that. 403 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 2: Did Mike Harmon do this? 404 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 3: Who defaced our I paid money for that? 405 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 2: Is it defaced? Well? You have to see I'm not happy. 406 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 9: Murray. 407 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:19,959 Speaker 2: Tell them that they can stick and stay and then 408 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 2: we'll go look. 409 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 3: All right, eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight 410 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 3: seven seven nine six sixty three sixty nine. Should Fernando 411 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 3: Mendoza be instole as the Raiders QB one week one. 412 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 2: We'll continue that conversation next with you. 413 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 3: Remember Rob Parker kelvin Washington, stad couple where we deliver insight, 414 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 3: not noise. 415 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 2: Noise. 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Jaron Jackson Jr. 441 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 2: There we go, very nice. J Jonah Jameson was his 442 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 2: boss at the at the news newspaper. 443 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 7: Ye. 444 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 2: No, I don't know that, Alex. 445 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 3: Did you know that Spider Man's boss his name with 446 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 3: three j's, three j's. 447 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 6: What is it? 448 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 2: Jay Jonah Jameson. 449 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 6: That's impressive? 450 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 2: That was it? That's what I thought it was. Jaron 451 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 2: Jackson Jr. I could think of it is? 452 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 8: Also, how do we left Kelvin slip away with not 453 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 8: just buying wings today? Why are we just learning him right? 454 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 8: It off today? 455 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 2: I mean even okay, I just my brain was like, 456 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 2: we're thinking. 457 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 8: Later it could have been done because it's your last 458 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 8: big dad, right, but. 459 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 2: He's already eating today. I just had the pasta, all right, 460 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: we could eat tomorrow. Rob. You just have to s sorry, Rob, 461 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 2: Why you you're you're not you're working but not here 462 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 2: you're not here. He's off. Why he's got big plans? 463 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 2: All right, we got the Aldum market. I do. I 464 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 2: think I have. 465 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 3: Music for the odd Mob when he like an introduction 466 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 3: for the odd mod. 467 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 5: No, no, no, you don't. We don't know how old 468 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 5: is this is gonna be. It's the mod Mob show. 469 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 5: We don't want to We ain't doing that. No, we 470 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 5: don't want it. 471 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 2: No we're not. No, no palace, don't pull it up. 472 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 2: Don't pull it up at Alex. If you want, wing, 473 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 2: put the camera on me. 474 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 3: A wing, pull it up. The mod Squad. It's great music. 475 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 3: Hold on, it was a great show. 476 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 2: No what here's no? No, no, but the music is great, 477 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 2: isn't it Quincy Jones? Mean Quincy Jones. Look it up. 478 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 2: I'm telling you. I think it's Quincy Jones. I think 479 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 2: he did do it. I think you're right. Watch and 480 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 2: see when you hear this. This is exciting. All right? 481 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 2: You got it, Alex almost the mod Squad, the computer bro. Dang, Alex, 482 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 2: what you got. 483 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 10: So while we're waiting for Alex to pull up a 484 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 10: terrible song, let me read some of these. 485 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 2: You know you do? You know the mods? I do 486 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 2: know it. I'm gonna be that young let me at 487 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 2: the beginning. All right, Well he's pulling it up right now, 488 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 2: so we can play it for you. All right, go ahead? 489 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 2: What do you got past the joint pods? 490 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 10: Which is a great name, says shout out to Rob 491 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 10: back from his sugar Daddy cruise. 492 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 5: Oh that's how you were staying warmed? 493 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I Google, look at going on social media 494 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 3: and see the pictures. 495 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 2: I was in Syracuse, New York. Rob was outside. What 496 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 2: you mean, dang got women in Syracuse. They're out there. 497 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 2: Let's see here. Mike Wootson twenty eighty five to get 498 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 2: talk about the week. I remember that song about him. 499 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 10: Talking about the wingstop b Duve's debate, says, I know 500 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 10: Elijah likes his chicken unseasoned. 501 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 2: Elijah likes his chicken unseasoned. Behalf of a lot. He 502 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: ain't even here here again? 503 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 6: Wow? 504 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 2: He No, he at least gets some laries. Don't do that. 505 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 2: That's so off. That was do that? Well? Did you 506 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 2: find it or you can't get. 507 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 6: No, he can't find a theme song. 508 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 2: No, that's it. That's it. The beginning is awesome. 509 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 5: Alex. You stopped fluffing over there. What you stopped fluffing? 510 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 5: All right, just do this. Find out who made that? 511 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 5: I bet you Jones. I think I don't like anything 512 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 5: by Quincy Jones, Rosse Jones, but that's not even I 513 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 5: just like new stuff, or it's just every day. That 514 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 5: was the last part, was it? Every once in a while, 515 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 5: robbed something new? I mean we got the ACADEC. I 516 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 5: don't know what that was. I know, but that was 517 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 5: how long ago? 518 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 9: Yes? 519 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 2: Exactly? 520 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 5: Did you hear what Morgan Freeman said recently? The secret 521 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 5: he's eighty eight years old. 522 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 3: I don't want to hear about that. Yeah, I heard 523 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 3: about that. Oh, don't let the old man in. 524 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 2: Wait, why, I hate to break it to you. Eighty eight, 525 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 2: he said, Rob. And they didn't hear it. Let me 526 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 2: tell them. 527 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 5: They they asked Morgan Freeman was on a and I 528 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 5: forgot who was with and he said, what is this 529 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 5: Morgan Freeman? And they asked him what's to see? 530 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 7: You know? 531 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 2: Clint Eastwood told him don't let the old man in. 532 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 3: And then you know what, Rob g There was a 533 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 3: silence in the crowd at the show, and then I 534 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 3: can hear his artery's hard. 535 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 2: You can't take out a legend. We need Morgan. 536 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 8: Also, I found who was the creator of the mon 537 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 8: Squad TV showing. 538 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,959 Speaker 3: You know, I mean, I don't think he was the creator, 539 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 3: but I think he made the score, the music, the themes. 540 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 2: Why you look that up. Man is gonna get us updated. 541 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 5: We got Joe Varden on the other side, who also 542 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 5: we listened to the mon Squad music. 543 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 2: You know what, there's something Manzi good is good. Like everybody, 544 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: just because it's new doesn't make it. 545 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 5: Good, no, but just because it's new means we could 546 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 5: hear something new, this refreshing. 547 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 2: Know what, when I'm done and you take over the show, you. 548 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 3: Do what you want to do, you know, the numbers 549 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 3: will plummet the waders and then you'll be. 550 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 2: Like, well, okay, I'm like, yeah, go get that mind squad. 551 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 2: That'll do it. Can I tell you this, I'm not 552 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 2: at real quick. Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. I'm gonna 553 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 2: bring it in because you know, I keep everything. 554 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 3: We had super ratings on the Park of the Man's 555 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 3: show back in Detroit on ninety seven one a ticket 556 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 3: and my boss we had with the number one nighttime 557 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 3: show beating music stations. 558 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:18,959 Speaker 2: I'm not bragging. 559 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 3: I'm just being honest, and he wrote in the comments 560 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 3: section where he had our number. 561 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 2: He goes, the Golden Girls work. Keep it up? Now 562 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 2: that was you know how many years ago that was? 563 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 2: That was like twenty years ago. He wrote that the 564 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 2: Golden Girls were still in the air. 565 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 3: But we talked about it, you know what I'm saying, 566 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 3: and he's at Golden Girls work. 567 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna bring it in. That bit worked like it. Yes, 568 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 2: we love of Golden Girls. Yeah, doing no well not 569 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 2: the cruise. 570 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 571 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 4: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsportsradio dot 572 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 4: com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. 573 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 2: Thank you, Manty. Talk about that. Next hour It is 574 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 2: the with P. D. 575 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 5: Parker kelvin Washington on a TV Things on Thursday. And 576 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 5: joining us now is Joe Varden. Of course, covers the 577 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 5: NBA for the athletic Joe Varden. You can follow him 578 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 5: on ex Joe What's up man? 579 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 2: How you doing? 580 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 7: How are you hey? Guys? 581 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 5: Good to be back always absolutely hey Joe jump in 582 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 5: on this forty twenty row up. 583 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 2: Sure you know about it? Of course. 584 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 5: Phil Jackson says, hey, you gotta if you win forty 585 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 5: games before you lose twenty, you're a real threat to 586 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 5: win it. Eighteen of the last nineteen champions meet that criteria. 587 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 2: Is that happening in twenty twenty six and three? 588 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 5: Three teams now will be the Spurs, the Thunder, and 589 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 5: the Pistons who have I'm not buying it. 590 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 3: There's too many injuries, just a different kind of year, 591 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 3: Joe for me, I. 592 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 7: Mean probably, I don't know. I think we're really talking 593 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 7: about if we're really falling in love with the Spurs 594 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 7: right now. The Thunder a little bit of the shine 595 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 7: has worn off. They've just had a ridiculous year with 596 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 7: injuries to their main guys, and there's they still are 597 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 7: one of those teams. And then with the Pistons, you 598 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 7: know that that's a team that people still don't buy. 599 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 7: You know, they've been the best team in the regular 600 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 7: season all year. Uh, they're really physical, they defend, they've 601 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 7: got a little bit of an edge to them, but 602 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 7: they're very young and they don't have a ton of 603 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 7: playoff experience, So. 604 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 3: And Joe, and they don't shoot well from three or 605 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 3: from the perimeter, like like that's what's scary about the Pistons. 606 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, Yeah, I mean they have Duncan Robinson and outside 607 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,479 Speaker 7: of him not much. You know, Cad gets into the lane, 608 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 7: you know, he's a great he's a he's a really 609 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 7: great drive and kick player. But they lost Malik Beasley, 610 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 7: you know, with all the gambling stuff. So yeah, so 611 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 7: that's the thing. So just to answer the question, I 612 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 7: still like those teams, you know, other than that, who 613 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 7: are we talking about? 614 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 3: You don't like Denver because that three games they don't 615 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 3: have that we they missed it, and Boston's two games 616 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 3: and they might get Tatum back. Like, like, I don't 617 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 3: know if I'm gonna count out Boston or I'm gonna 618 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 3: count out the Knicks or I'm gonna count out Denver 619 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 3: because they don't have forty wins and they just missed 620 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 3: it by two or three. 621 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I think the other way to spin 622 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 7: this discussion is is that this is a great spot 623 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 7: to be in, to be coming up on March first, 624 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 7: and where we are talking about a handful of teams 625 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 7: instead of one or two. 626 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 627 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean interesting to see if that continue. 628 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 5: Eighteen out of the last nineteen have been that. 629 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 2: Go. Uh, let's let's go back to the Spurs. 630 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 5: A little bit here for me, watching winby one of 631 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 5: the things I love and why I'm happy if he 632 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 5: becomes if he isn't already. But the face of the 633 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 5: league is that he cares Joe. He wants to win. 634 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 5: He wants to win in the Olympics, He's sad, he 635 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 5: cried they lost. He wants to win. In the All 636 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 5: Star Game, took it seriously, he missed that shot. He 637 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 5: plays on both ends. Doesn't mind if he only has 638 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 5: fifteen points as long as he's got five blocks. And 639 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 5: that I think is infectious with that team. And they 640 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 5: have that same thing that thunder haats, same thing the 641 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 5: pissons where they all want to play for each other 642 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 5: you mentioned, adds to them. How good are the Spurs 643 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 5: and how are they? How far ahead of schedule are they? 644 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 9: Yeah? 645 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 7: I think there. I think they're a full year ahead 646 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 7: of schedule, you know. I mean, I do believe that 647 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 7: when they acquired dearon Fox last year that that was 648 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 7: with the idea to be very competitive this year. And 649 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 7: so if they get to the conference finals or A finals, 650 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 7: and I think they're a year ahead of schedule. As 651 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 7: we always say, it's experience when we get to playoff time, 652 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 7: and some of these guys don't have it, so we'll 653 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 7: see how they do. But yeah, to your point, Victor 654 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 7: is changing. He not only changes the Spurs, but he 655 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 7: changes the league because he's reintroducing some competitiveness, you know, 656 00:28:54,480 --> 00:29:00,959 Speaker 7: like a certain just nastiness and placing winning above being friends. 657 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 7: And I think that is a refreshing thing. It's obviously 658 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 7: going to spill over in the international ball when we 659 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 7: get the Woke Cup next summer and then the Olympics 660 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 7: here in twenty eight. So yeah, I think that he 661 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 7: is great for the league, not just because of what 662 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 7: he does and who he is, but the way he 663 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 7: carries himself. I think it'll be contagious. 664 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 2: How about the Cavs and Harden? Does that work for you? 665 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 7: Well? It does because I'm like the fundamental driver of 666 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 7: They had two small guards, and you can't win with 667 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 7: two small guards. There's only three teams in history who 668 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 7: have won NBA titles with guards who are both six 669 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 7: foot three or less, and that's what they had with 670 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 7: Garland and then Donovan, who granted plays bigger, but he's 671 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 7: stilled at the end of the day, he's a smaller guard. 672 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,479 Speaker 7: And they would hunt Darius all day long, and you 673 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 7: can't do that with a hard and Mitchell backcourt. We'll 674 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,479 Speaker 7: see how We'll see if Evan Mobley is ready to 675 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 7: go here in the playoffs and Jared Allen is really 676 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 7: right now their best player he has been over the 677 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 7: last eleven or twelve games, and so he's not been 678 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 7: good in the playoffs. Does that translate what he's been 679 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 7: doing into April and may so? But yes, I do 680 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 7: like this. They fundamentally changed their team, not only with 681 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 7: James but also by bringing in Dennis Shrewder and Kean Ellis. 682 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 7: They have way more than they did two months ago 683 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 7: what they could do to you. So yeah, I do 684 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 7: like it. 685 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 5: I like the Shrewder hardness Harden, but when he was 686 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 5: at his best. You talk about hunting Garland, you can 687 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 5: hunt James Harden. So I think bringing his Shrewder was 688 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 5: great pick up for them because if he's. 689 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 2: Not only been on nine teams now in the last. 690 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 5: Six years, but I think he gets after the ball defensively, 691 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 5: he gets after him you kind of muxting ups. 692 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 2: So I think that's a good god for them. 693 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 5: Let's talk real quick on tanking NBA trying to come 694 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 5: down hard five hundred thousand finess one hundred thousand dollars 695 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 5: fines is taking that big of a deal. It's just 696 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 5: because they were that obvious. I'm not saying this now. 697 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 5: I'm say is that because it was that obvious, teams 698 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 5: have been doing it for eons? And if and if 699 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 5: it is, well, how do you help these teams get better? 700 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 7: Well, they're working on the last question. They're actually asking 701 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 7: all thirty teams what rule change would change your behavior? 702 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 7: What could we implement that you would stop doing this? 703 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,239 Speaker 7: And you know, I think we all agree that it 704 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 7: is important and we and then I would say that 705 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 7: the reason why the league is paying so much attention 706 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 7: to it is because of the egregious behavior between you know, 707 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 7: pulling starters way ahead of when they should be out 708 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 7: of a game in a competitive game. That's not fair 709 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 7: to the fans who paid paid the money. And then 710 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 7: now like this is this one's a little bit harder 711 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 7: to tackle on a thirty second radio SoundBite. But these surgeries, 712 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 7: these surgeries that are happening in February, many of them, 713 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 7: like what do you call it? Elective? 714 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? 715 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 7: Or cosmetic? You know, these guys are not tearing acls 716 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 7: and blowing achilles and having season injuries season ending surgeries 717 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 7: that way, and so this is another form of it. 718 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 7: Another form of tanking is just to say, all right, 719 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 7: if you're not, if you're going to police when we 720 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 7: can and can't play our players and we're just gonna 721 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 7: have them have surgery then they can't play. 722 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 2: But Joe, here's the thing, and I know we're late. 723 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 3: You can't disrespect the paying customer like you can't. At 724 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 3: some point you will hurt yourself if you you know, 725 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 3: like now, Kelvin and I said it, if you got 726 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 3: ten dollars night ticket night and two dollars hot dog Night, 727 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 3: that might be a different story. Want to happen and 728 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 3: they know you know what I mean, and they know 729 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 3: you're not trying to win. But people paying real money 730 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 3: and you're not trying to win, dude, that's hard for 731 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 3: people to to have to absorb. 732 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, it is, it is. 733 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 7: The plan was supposed to fix that. 734 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 2: Well it isn't. You're doing Joe. We appreciate it, man, 735 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 736 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 5: Okay, guys, thanks, no doubt, Joe Varden go give him 737 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 5: a follow Shop talk coming up next, Rob g And 738 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 5: they're cooking up something. 739 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 2: We'll see what he's got for us. It's the out 740 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 2: couple of Fox Sports Radio. 741 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 742 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 4: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 743 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 4: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 744 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 4: listen live. 745 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 2: What's this one from NBC News? Oh wow, yeah, no, 746 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 2: I don't know. It sounds like a news program. 747 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 8: Olympics Live, Long and prosperous. This is Star Trek for 748 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 8: which on This is the Star Trek Varger Voyage. 749 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 5: Oh it is, You're right, it's the Eye Couple Robin 750 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 5: Kelvin on the A TV Things on Thursday. 751 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 2: Find out more about Gene Roddenberry's life. It is in 752 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 2: them streets. Yeah, yeah, issues. 753 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 3: I'm just saying when you know, like you don't know, 754 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 3: like the back and they're like, man, I okay. 755 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 2: On the way next hour. Don't forget. 756 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 5: We got the real reason why you listen, or at 757 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 5: least the only reason why Manti shows up on Thursdays. 758 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 5: Ty Shirts Tower of Trivia that's coming up. Ready to 759 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 5: tackle your financial goals. We bull makes it simple to 760 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 5: start investing, powerful tools, real time data, all in one app. 761 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 5: Get started at we bull dot com or download the 762 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 5: Wee Bull app to day. 763 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 2: It is now time for shop talking. Ain't nobody, ain't 764 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 2: nothing to bomb shop You know that. 765 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 5: Ain't nobody you talk about whoever, whatever, whatever you want 766 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 5: to in the box. 767 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 4: You know it's shop talking. 768 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 2: That's right to shop talk. 769 00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 10: Here on the ey couple of the segment where we 770 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 10: talk about I'm not outside of the world of sports 771 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 10: this week we're cheating because this one does have a 772 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 10: sports tie in sunny southern California. 773 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys heard about this long time. 774 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 10: Your Belinda High school football coach Jeff Bailey has a 775 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 10: new gig. He's going to be the new football coach 776 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 10: at Beverly Hills High Not a big deal, right, They 777 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 10: haven't had a winning season in like ten years. It's 778 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 10: a public school and so the only way they were 779 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 10: able to get a guy of his caliber to come 780 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 10: coach for them is they had to give him a 781 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 10: salary that eclipses over two hundred and five thousand dollars 782 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 10: at a public high school high school football team. And 783 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 10: in order to justify the salary, they had to not 784 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 10: label his title as a high school football coach. 785 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 9: No, he is the Ambassador District assistant director of Strength 786 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 9: and Conditioning. If this was a private school, no problem 787 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 9: spending on how you want to the fact that it's 788 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 9: a public school. 789 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 2: Do you have a problem. 790 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 3: If I'm a pair and I'm outraged that a high 791 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 3: school football coach is making two hundred thousand and the 792 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 3: teachers don't make any money. 793 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,399 Speaker 2: That shows where we are society, Like. 794 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,760 Speaker 3: How can they just two hundred thousand dollars or public 795 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 3: high school? 796 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 5: No, that's outrageous, rober Do you understand at high school athletics? 797 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 5: Have he's gotten crazy over the years? I know that 798 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 5: is he paint in the school? Yeah, that's too much, 799 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,919 Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Like when and I'm sure 800 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 5: the Beverly Hills I'm sure those the Beverly Hills teachers 801 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 5: get paid more than some teachers and nobody making a 802 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 5: handful of those kids would go play college football and 803 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 5: maybe point one percent, zero or one percent might actually 804 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 5: go on to play on Sundays. So the point is, 805 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 5: what are we saying here that that's worth more than 806 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 5: the rest of the two thousand kids that are getting 807 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 5: educated by these teachers. 808 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 2: Yes, that's too much. And you mentioned if. 809 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 5: It was private or or if parents were behind his bag, 810 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 5: come over to dinner and slipping them an envelope with. 811 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 7: You. 812 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 3: Nobody wings stops you coupons you could give away with 813 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 3: two hundred thousands you know. Yeah no, I didn't know. 814 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,439 Speaker 2: I can't make that much money as a high school coach. 815 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 2: I need be applying to jobs I could coach. That's 816 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:05,720 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Look about video games coaching football, Yes, 817 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 2: I could go. Rob G played high school football, rob G, 818 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 2: you can you just do it? You got a name, 819 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 2: You got a name his twenty ten either. It's a 820 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 2: good point. Oh, but you're talking about your personal life. 821 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 2: Struggling is not something to laugh about. It's the real problem. 822 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 2: Rock is not something in your bags. What's that Rugin? 823 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 5: And by the way, this is how I know they 824 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 5: listened by day, I mean any anything, Never heard of 825 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 5: Ruggie in my life till you start doing the bings. 826 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 5: Now all I mean emails. And I'm not talking about 827 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 5: like our company one. I'm talking my own personal boy. 828 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 5: They listen. My sister called me Monty from Orange Theory. 829 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 5: She was your face time while working out. Oh wow, okay, great, 830 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 5: guess what was in my email later that day is 831 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 5: Orange Jo you're about to get orange? 832 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 2: Was this rob? 833 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 5: Get your phone, oster or stereo, oystere orieter. 834 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 2: Now watch tomorrow. You're gonna have it. But none of 835 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 2: us agree with this, right, I mean it seems crazy. 836 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 6: Speak for yourself. 837 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 8: Public high school, good for him, get the man, get 838 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:10,919 Speaker 8: the bread. 839 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 6: It's not our money, is it? 840 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? 841 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 8: Public for all the other crapper paying for I'd rather 842 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 8: a kid get get good education from a teacher at school's. 843 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 2: Football. 844 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 6: You guys are crazy. Where's this at? 845 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 2: What's the perfect? What were you doing two minutes ago? 846 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 8: I was eating strawberries. No, I'm just being honest with you. 847 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 8: Two hundred thousand, you guys are he's getting paid, but 848 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 8: that's a public for him. 849 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 2: We're not. No, okay. 850 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 8: If a college kick can be paid millions of dollars 851 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 8: before he plays on the pros, and. 852 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 3: You guys are cool with that, No, I'm I got 853 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 3: a problem when you take public funds and give somebody 854 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 3: two hundred thousand, and the teachers are making fifty. 855 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 5: Five, and you give him some endom title the strength 856 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 5: conditioning of the coach of the elliptical whole district, of 857 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 5: the whole district, what district? 858 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 3: This one you know why they had to do that 859 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 3: because they couldn't just safe football coach because people would 860 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 3: go nuts. 861 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 2: Yeah. 862 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,800 Speaker 8: No, I'm more mad that NASA is getting one hundred 863 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 8: fifty million a day, kay, not two hundred k to 864 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:14,959 Speaker 8: a coach. 865 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 5: Well, I'm with you on that. What do we got 866 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 5: to go to Mars for? I'm totally with you on that. 867 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 5: Ain't been an eight A Starbucks or McDonald's on the moon. 868 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,720 Speaker 8: We ain't's messed up another planet.