WEBVTT - Adam Schiff 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:04.120 Welcome to River Cafe Table four, a production of iHeartRadio 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:05.960 and Adam I's studios. 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:09.680 As an American living in Britain. A visit to London 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:13.080 by Congressman Adam Schiff is a big deal. That we 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:15.920 gave dinner for him and our house was a great honor. 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:20.360 Adam was on the way back from Ukraine meeting with Zulansky, 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:23.560 and over past and winter vegetables, he talked to us 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:27.680 about world we are living in, food shortages, child poverty, 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:32.600 and food insecurity. Today we'll continue, but also talk about 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:35.120 the food he grew up with, the food he cooks 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:39.360 for his family, the food he personally finds comforting. Adam, 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:43.760 will you begin by reading a recipe you've chosen from 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:45.520 River Cafe Cookbook thirty. 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:52.600 So I've got a wonderful recipe for spaghetti. I have 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:55.640 to love pasa and my favorite is spaghetti or angel hair. 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:58.480 So this is a perfect recipe for me to share 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:02.680 with you. Spaghetti brought tomato and arugula, or as you 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:07.440 you would say in Britain rocket rocket, So spaghetti three 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:11.440 and twenty grams plum tomatoes. You'll need four of those. 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:17.360 You'll need two garlic clothes dried chili. Just one dried 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:21.200 chili unless you like it really spicy, capers, two tablespoons 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:25.360 black olives three tablespoons. Now I'm in a huge olive fan, 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:29.600 but it does work great in spaghetti arugula. You'll have 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:34.839 three leaves and three tablespoons of extra virgin olive oil. 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:38.679 So you will cut the tomatoes in half, squeeze out 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:42.360 the excess juice and seeds, and chop the flesh coarse thing. 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:47.360 Peel the garlic and squash with one teaspoon of sea salt. 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:52.640 Then you'll crumble the chili, rinse the capers, and stone 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:57.760 the olives. Then you'll roughly chop the arugula. Finally, combine 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:02.040 the tomatoes with all the ingredients except the rugula, seasoned generously, 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:05.680 add the olive oil and put aside for thirty minutes. 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:10.359 You cook the spaghetti and boiling salted water until all dante. 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:14.399 Then drain and stir the pasta into the tomatoes. Add 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:18.680 the rugula and toss to coat each strand season with 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:22.640 black pepper. Served with olive oil, and. 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:28.400 Delicious, beautifully read. Always think your recipe is half science 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:30.680 and half poetry, So there you go. You read it 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:32.040 as a poem. It was beautiful. 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:35.320 Thank you glad I didn't read it as a scientist. 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:38.960 Beautiful. One of the things that I really love about 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:40.920 you is that I think you're a really good eater. 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:44.440 I wish I was not a good eater, but I 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:45.440 do love food. 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:47.120 Yeah, that's what I mean. 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:50.040 I meet people from time to time that can kind 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:52.920 of take or leave eating. I don't understand them. I 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:55.000 think I think they're from another planet. 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:58.360 Tell me about growing up in the Schiff household. What 0:02:58.440 --> 0:02:59.919 was it like food wise? 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:03.280 Yes, I think this is why I love to go 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:05.360 out to eat, because when I was a kid, it 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:09.160 was such a rarity. And I always liked to claim 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:11.640 to my wife because you know, only a husband can 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:14.720 make this claim that I'm the ideal husband because I 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:18.640 don't want a homecook meal. I really love going out. 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:22.760 You're not distracted by the phone ringing, you're not distracted 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:26.000 by the TV or this kid wants to run off 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:29.200 to do homework instead of finishing the meal, and so 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:32.520 you're at a table. You're just focused on each other 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:35.920 and the food. But I think part of it is 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:37.800 that it was a rarity when I was growing up. 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:41.360 My mother was a good cook. But didn't like to cook. 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:44.080 But nonetheless, we ate at home all the time, and 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:48.520 my father was a traveling salesman in the shmata business 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:52.720 and helping business, and it was a big deal when 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:56.080 we could go out to one of our favorite restaurants. 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:59.240 I think that it's changed so much because I also 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:01.680 grew up where you went out to dinner if somebody 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:05.080 graduated from high school or there was a birthday or 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:09.960 an anniversary. Now having a restaurant, I just see people 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:12.920 eating all the time. They come with their children, they 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:15.920 come on a Friday night with their parents. They use 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:18.920 a restaurant in a very different way than we did. 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:19.400 I think. 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:24.120 I think that's right. And because my mother didn't like 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:28.360 to cook, a lot of our meals were very kind 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:29.000 of standard. 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:31.160 Fair tell me about them. What did she cook? 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:34.560 You know, a lot of canned food, to be honest. 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:37.880 But my favorite meal that my mother used to make 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:43.520 was something that she made using these little boneless chicken 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:48.040 pieces that she breaded. You made it with a sign 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.720 of spaghetti and they were breaded with cheese on them, 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:52.880 so it was kind of like a mini chicken permeshan 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:58.600 with spaghetti. But I guess my strongest memories in childhood 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:02.159 of food were of the high holidays. When we get 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:05.359 together my grandparents and they would make a great, big meal. 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:07.920 Were they born in the United States or were they 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:09.800 immigrants from another country. 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:14.000 My father was an immigrant from London. His parents immigrated 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:16.520 from Eastern Europe. My other grandparents were born in the 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:22.200 United States, but their parents, my great grandparents, all came 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:26.960 from Eastern Europe. But when we get together for the holidays, 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:30.000 it would be a lot of manzibol soup and holly, 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:36.320 bread and brisket, and it was quite a feast. Telling 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:37.920 a lot of that. I didn't want to go near 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:41.640 like chocol ever, Yeah, that'll do it. There is an 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:47.479 eternal debate in Jewish households about whether manzibal should be 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:50.120 light and fluffy or should be the kind that when 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:52.560 you drop them they go through the floor. I just 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:58.479 want to state, unequivocally, without hesitation, they need to be 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:00.440 the kind that fall through the floor. 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.560 That suspense was killing me as you were telling this, 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:05.000 I was going to think, what is he going to 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:07.799 go for falling through the floor or light and fluffy. 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:10.160 I did think you might choose light and fluffy, but 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:15.080 I will it has to be that really heavy sinking feeling. Yeah. 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:19.080 As a politician, sometimes we have to make difficult decisions. Yes, 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:22.640 I know, and I am firmly in the camp of 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:27.800 the very very heavy monster ball that you know, when 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:31.120 you've eaten it and it doesn't get lost in the broth. 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:33.440 You interested in eating? Were you interested in cooking? 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:37.000 When I did cook, it was frankly as a kid 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:40.040 and through adulthood at the barbecue. 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:43.400 Ah, that's very male. That's that's kind of I always 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:48.000 think when men feel that they can cook, is the barbecue. Yes, 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:50.320 funny barbecued. What did you do? 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:56.240 You know? My cooking pre pandemic was pretty basic. 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:59.360 Fair, And what happened in the pandemic, well. 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:01.680 You know, we not going out to eat, and it 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:06.000 was a huge lifestyle change, among other things. So I 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.880 got myself a few gadgets. You know, I think this 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:12.320 is also a male thing. You like to cook with gadgets? 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:14.160 Yeah, gadget. Yeah. 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:17.240 I got an air fryer, and I got a pressure cooker. 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:23.240 I started making curry tofu and the pressure cooker with 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:28.480 vegetables and potatoes, and it seemed to be a pretty 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:33.040 fail safe device in terms of coming out well and 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:35.720 likewise the air fryer. I have to tell you a 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:39.280 funny story. I had a political event in Los Angeles 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:42.800 and I gave my speech, and then a brand new 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:48.200 assembly member went up to the microphone, real sharp up 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:51.400 and comer. He was saying some nice things about me, 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:54.280 and then he said, and I got some of the 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:58.160 most important advice from Congressman Shift when I was getting started. 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:00.920 So the most important advice I've forgotten. And I was 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:03.760 waiting to hear what sage political advice I'd given him, 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:05.920 and he said, he told me to get an air fryer. 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:18.680 You've just come back from Ukraine. Did you experience the 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:21.760 food shortage challenges we did. 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:25.200 We discussed this with the President Zelenski when we sat 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:28.440 down with him. This was a congressional delegation that Speaker 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:32.160 Pelosi led, as it turned out, the first congressional delegation 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:35.200 to Ukraine since the war. And one of the things 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:38.040 that was apparent to us before we left, but became 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:41.280 much more apparent as we discussed the issue is that 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:45.040 when the Russians blockaded Odessa, they were not only trying 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:49.040 to cripple Ukraine's economy, but as Ukraine has been the 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:52.960 bread basket of Europe, a lot of the grain to 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:57.080 Africa and other places as well. The Russians were also 0:08:57.160 --> 0:09:01.120 blockading food that a lot of people will need it 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:06.800 to survive, and it caused not only a great increase 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:11.640 in food prices, but also risks starvation in many places 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:15.160 that really have relied on Ukraine for their grain. And 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:18.480 so part of the appeal that Zelensky was making for 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:21.920 the weapons that he needs to sink that Black Sea 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:25.880 fleet and the equipment he needs to do de mining 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:30.480 was this is important to Ukraine, it's important to our economy, 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:33.160 but it's also important to the rest of the world 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:36.200 because the real food shortage. 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:38.960 Issue, Well do you think it will be like in Egypt, 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:42.520 in North Africa? What is going to happen when they 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:43.720 can't get their food? 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:48.960 You know, it certainly risks great instability, and just in 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:53.520 its own right, of course, it risks starvation. And I 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:55.720 think it's one of the reasons we have to do 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:58.280 everything we can to try to bring this war in 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:02.000 Ukraine to an end. You know, sadly it's hard to 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:05.800 see that path. I think it does require us to 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:10.080 give Ukraine what needs to defend itself. To increase the 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:13.640 costs on Russia, so the Russian people see the folly 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:18.560 of what their dictator has done. But this tragic war 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:22.200 has had a lot of repercussions, and one of those 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:26.840 I think the world at least understands is the impact 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:29.520 it has on people's ability to get enough to eat 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:31.000 in many parts of the world. 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:35.040 What do we do now? What are your major concerns 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:37.000 in terms of poverty and equality? 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:41.040 You know, I think that we have experienced the revolution 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:45.560 in the economy and the global economy as a function 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:50.079 of globalization but also automation, and the result is that, 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:52.120 you know, millions of people in a million in the 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:54.959 middle class are at risk of falling out. A lot 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.120 of working families have to work harder than ever to 0:10:57.160 --> 0:11:00.839 try to get in the middle class. At the same time, 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:04.679 these structural changes in the economy have produced very great 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:08.520 concentrated wealth. So while we have students in our colleges 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.160 who can't get enough to eat, we have captains of 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:15.000 Jutury literally flying into space on tourist trips. 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:20.679 I agree, you are very vocal and very concerned and 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:26.760 very politically engaged in food inequality. When I think it's 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:31.400 seventeen million of our children in the United States faced 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:32.480 with hunger every day. 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:36.920 It really is extraordinary. And I had a meeting some 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:40.360 years ago, this before the pandemic, with a group of 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:44.160 community college students for my district, and they were talking 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:46.440 to me about and it came up in a kind 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:50.400 of an offhanded way about the food banks they had 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:54.760 on campus for students, and I was astonished that each 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:57.520 of them, and they were going to three different community colleges, 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:01.840 all had food banks on campus. This was still before 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:06.320 the pandemic. So the economy was strong, far stronger than 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:09.640 during the recession and fully recovered, and yet the hunger 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:12.880 was greater than ever. And it really pointed to me 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:17.680 of some strong structural problems in the economy that even 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:20.400 when it was doing well, it wasn't doing well for 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:25.640 millions and millions of people, to the point that college kids, 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:28.199 you know, not only at community college, but the state 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:34.559 colleges of the private universities, were going hungry. So I 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:38.080 introduced a bill to try to expand the free and 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:41.600 reduced lunch program that we have in K twelve up 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:45.000 through community college, and that was the genesis of the 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:47.640 Food for Thought Act, and we've been working to get 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:52.079 that passed ever since and trying to address broader issues 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:55.240 of hunger and homelessness as well. 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:58.880 In Britain in the pandemic, what became very clear was 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:01.920 that when schools were c there are enormous a number 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:05.920 of children who not having lunch and therefore had depended 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:09.080 on lunch as their meal for the day. Did you 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:11.040 find that in the United States as well? 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:17.479 Absolutely, And what we discovered is that schools, these kindergarten 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:21.760 through high schools, were one of the major providers of food, 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:24.880 as it turned out, to low income families. And when 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:28.319 those schools closed and people went to remote learning, suddenly 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.160 these families didn't have meals. Yeah, these didn't have meals. 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:34.120 So what a lot of our schools did. And I 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:36.360 visited so many of these sites in my own district 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:41.760 and participated is they would prepare meals and families would 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:44.600 drive up in their car. We would ask how many 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:47.000 kids did they have, and we would give them the 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:49.160 number of meals for the kids and their family that 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:50.520 they would have had if they were in school. 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:03.520 About the road from being a barbecue of meat and 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:06.359 fish to being vegan, what is your vegan story. 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:11.480 Well, my cholesterol has been high and I tried medication 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:14.120 like Satin's, but they didn't sit well with me. I 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:17.080 couldn't tolerate them very well. So my wife, was a 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:21.520 very healthy eater, suggests that I tried being vegan. And 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:24.000 I've been vegan for about three days. When I was 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:27.200 in my district and I was at an event, and 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:29.560 of course, at any event in Los Angeles, you talk 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:33.520 about food. I was talking about a great restaurant i'd 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.560 been to, called Crossroads, and the person I was talking 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:39.400 to recognize it was a vegan restaurant, and she said 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:43.480 to me, can I tell people here you're vegan? And 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:45.800 I thought that was kind of a strange question. Why 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:49.560 would people be interested in that? Then I realized where 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:52.360 I was. I was in West Hollywood at an animal 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:56.440 welfare event. Oh oh, yes, I guess that is a 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:59.280 big deal at an animal welfare event. And I said, well, 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:01.680 I've only been vegan, to be honest for three days, 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:03.240 and if you tell people, I'm going to be pretty 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:06.520 locked in. But you know I need the incentive go 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:09.160 ahead and tell people. So that was six years ago, 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:13.040 and you know, I do allow myself to cheat from 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:13.680 time to time. 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:16.040 The truth be told when you cheat, what do you 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:16.440 go for. 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:20.000 Usually cheat when I'm traveling because it's hard for me 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:24.200 to always find vegan food, so I try not to 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:26.960 be too tough on myself. I also cheat during Thanksgiving 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:30.480 because I had my first Thanksgiving as a vegan and 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:31.840 it was just an awful experience. 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:35.520 You had just cranberry sauce and vegetables and no turkey. 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:40.120 We were actually out at a place in Pennsylvania, nice 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:42.880 little place for the weekend. Our kids were with us, 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:46.760 and we had ordered in advance two vegan meals and 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:51.440 then two traditional turkey dinners. You know, our family is 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:54.160 kind of isolated in DC. We don't have other family there, 0:15:54.200 --> 0:16:00.200 so we often have Thanksgiving out or at friends. And 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:03.960 they brought these two beautiful plates for our kids, and 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:07.160 then they got our own plates and it looked like 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:11.280 someone had opened the Gerber's baby food jar and poured 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:14.560 it on the plate, and it was not at all satisfying. 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:16.880 And so I thought, Okay, on Thanksgiving, I'm going to 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:17.480 make an exception. 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:20.560 Do you know when I talked to Paul McCartney who 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:25.200 about being a vegetarian. When he and Linda, his late wife, 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:29.360 became vegetarians, they said that the first Christmas they had 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:33.120 they made a macaroni and cheese, but they shaped it 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:34.960 into a turkey and carved. 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:38.480 I have a challenge for your listeners if I can, 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:41.560 okay on behalf of vegans the world over, and that 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:45.280 is how to make a good vegan pizza. I really 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:48.600 have yet to find one that I really like because 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:52.000 most of the places you go to use a kind 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:55.360 of a dyet cheese which is made of coconut oil. 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:58.920 It doesn't taste anything like the real thing. So I 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:00.960 put this up there with the Heart Lung Machine. If 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:02.000 somebody can invent. 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:07.240 Pizza, we do just beauty, you know, cooked tomato sauce 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:10.439 with a pizza. You don't have to have a cheesy pizza. 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:13.760 I don't know how you substitute cheese for cheese. I 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:17.120 think substitutes are tricky, aren't they. One of the things 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:20.640 about this restaurant is we're really good for vegetarians and 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:24.679 for vegans because the Italian diet that we serve is 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:27.600 so vegetable based. So when you come in there are 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:32.280 big huge plates of you know, braised artichokes or charred 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:35.440 or pumpkins, whatever the season is. And so if somebody 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:39.680 says I'm vegan. It's actually that sounds wonderful, so we'll 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:42.520 do that. And so I suppose my last question to 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:46.879 you is that if food is love, and food is sharing, 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:50.439 and food is alleviating hunger, it also is comfort. What 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:52.280 would be your comfort food? 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:55.960 I think my comfort food, to go back where we 0:17:56.040 --> 0:18:01.800 started with the original recipe, is pasta. I think pasta 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:06.800 is hard to beat. I have so many fond memories 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:10.719 of it as a kid, through adulthood, having pasta when 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:14.520 I travel, and there's nothing more comfortable than a great 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:21.879 Italian meal with some wine and some bread and worrying 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:23.000 about the carbs tomorrow. 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:25.560 Okay, And so when you come to London in September, 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:30.600 we'll have pasta together. N lots of love to you, 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:40.680 Thank you, Adam, Thanks such lots of love. But tell 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:43.920 me about what an air frier is, because actually I'm 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:45.520 not sure I know this gadget. 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:51.960 Well, an air fryer has a pot that circulates air. 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:55.720 The device circulates air around the basket or the pot, 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:59.560 and it is like deep frying, but you're using air, 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:02.879 so there's boy. So it's kind of a healthy version 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:06.240 of fry. 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:10.720 To visit the online shop of the River cafe go 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:14.160 to shop Therivercafe dot co dot. 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:23.240 UK, River Cafe Table four is a production of iHeartRadio 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:27.480 and Adami Studios. 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