WEBVTT - SYSK Selects: How Foot Binding Worked

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, it's me Josh and for this week's s

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<v Speaker 1>Y s K Selects, I've chosen How Footbinding Worked. It's

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<v Speaker 1>about an unusual practice that was tradition for about a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand years in China, and it's just absolutely fascinating. Where

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<v Speaker 1>we a little judge you or the usual in this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say that's a fair assessment, but hopefully you

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<v Speaker 1>won't judge us too harshly and instead just enjoy this

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<v Speaker 1>episode because it's a pretty good one. Take care. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to Stuff you Should Know from how Stuff Works dot Com. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles

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<v Speaker 1>w Chuck Bryant, and Jerry's over there, and uh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>time for stuff you should know, everybody, so settled down,

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<v Speaker 1>buckle in, get ready. Hey, congratulations to Kristen Bell stuff

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<v Speaker 1>congratulations to you. And uh, I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 1>thought you're gonna congratulate her on a kick Starter movie. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the Veronica Mars movie. Well, congratulations on that. My wife

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<v Speaker 1>is very much looking forward to that and your wife

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<v Speaker 1>is looking forward to meeting the baby. She's on her

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<v Speaker 1>way right now. Kristen Bell's locking the doors. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>What started out as a small fascination with their show

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<v Speaker 1>and tragedy dangerous made for TV movie obsession Anyway, I

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to say congratulations. Yeah, that's nice if you

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<v Speaker 1>chucked sure, Uh, I got no congratulations over here yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting that I tied that to this podcast on like

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<v Speaker 1>female torture essentially. Do you think there's something to that? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we live in a world now where we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to worry about although I think they had a son

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<v Speaker 1>where any little baby's feet being binded, I guess not

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<v Speaker 1>babies but four or five year olds. We're bound? Yeah, yeah, bound, binded, bound, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>because the feet were bound? Yes, yes yeah. Um, do

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<v Speaker 1>you think we should explain to everybody what we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about foot binding? Yeah? I'm glad you. UM think you

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<v Speaker 1>congratulated Kristen Bell because I didn't really have much of

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<v Speaker 1>an intro for this one. Um, because it's just so fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we should just kind of dive right in. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Fascinating and horrible and like oddly impactful in areas I

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<v Speaker 1>never would have considered. So we should say that over

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<v Speaker 1>the course of about a thousand years, from roughly seventy

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<v Speaker 1>until about the nineteen fifties, like almost on the dot,

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand years, about three billion women in China um

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<v Speaker 1>bound their feet to basically train them to become small

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<v Speaker 1>and pointy in a really bizarre custom that just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of came out of nowhere and stuck around again for

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<v Speaker 1>about a thousand years, voluntarily deforming their feet. Well, at

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<v Speaker 1>the very least their mothers and grandmothers voluntarily deformed their

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<v Speaker 1>feet for them. Good. Yeah, it's a very good point. Actually, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but at some point they had to take over, and

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<v Speaker 1>I guess then it became voluntary. Well sure, well we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get to all that, Okay, Spoilers abound. So basically this

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<v Speaker 1>was purposeful deformation of the human foot, the human female foot, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>in order to attract men. There was a standard of

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<v Speaker 1>beauty abound foot. Um. And we'll describe it in a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, the idea, the whole thing kind of came

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<v Speaker 1>from they think about, like I said, a d in

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<v Speaker 1>the court of an emperor named Lee. You and Lee

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<v Speaker 1>you had a favorite girlfriend ballerina girl. Yeah, and apparently

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<v Speaker 1>he saw dancing once on a golden lotus pedestal because

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<v Speaker 1>everything was made of gold back then in Ya, And um,

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<v Speaker 1>she had her feet kind of wrapped up, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>like a ballerina or sometime. And he apparently got very

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<v Speaker 1>very excited at this, visibly excited, so much so that, um,

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<v Speaker 1>the other ladies of the court noticed this. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>say visibly excited? Visibly excited? Um, yes, if you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. I would imagine, hey, this guy's been

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<v Speaker 1>dead a thousand years, like all all slander and defamations

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<v Speaker 1>like out the window. It's like it was a rocking time.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the Southern Tank Dynasty. It was you never

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<v Speaker 1>know what's gonna happen. Yeah, it made Caligula look like

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<v Speaker 1>watching it as an adult, Yeah boring. Yeah. So um

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<v Speaker 1>so really the lee you was very much entranced by

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<v Speaker 1>this enough that other women in the court noticed it

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<v Speaker 1>and they started wrapping their feet as well, and it

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of took off from there, and it took

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<v Speaker 1>a weird turn pretty early on. Uh what was the turn? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the turn is originally apparently the first the woman who

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<v Speaker 1>started this whole thing just kind of wrapped her feet

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<v Speaker 1>and bandages. Yeah to too. I guess. Oh, okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>see what you mean that turn. It's a literal turn. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it became a status thing at first because wealthy women

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<v Speaker 1>did it, and um, then it sort of spread and

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<v Speaker 1>and and it also would end up preventing women from

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<v Speaker 1>doing like manual labor. Well, not prevent but it made

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<v Speaker 1>it tougher. So it was sort of a status thing

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<v Speaker 1>that meant like, if you had the bound feet round out,

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<v Speaker 1>they're working in the fields, I don't even have to

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<v Speaker 1>throw home. But then it spread throughout China and only

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<v Speaker 1>a few places, actually it was more than this article

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<v Speaker 1>led on and did some more research on that. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw like where fifty to sixty percent of the women

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<v Speaker 1>ended up binding their feet in China. And this says

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<v Speaker 1>like acent except in these provinces. Well I think they

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<v Speaker 1>were saying about close to a of the higher classes. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, there was so maybe about half of the

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese population total. Yeah, that makes sense. So the strange

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<v Speaker 1>turn it took, though, was to go from simply wrapping

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<v Speaker 1>their eat to actually the binding process, which is malforming

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<v Speaker 1>your feet at a young age like four to seven

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<v Speaker 1>years old for life, to where when your shoe is off.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like you're wearing your foot looks like a

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<v Speaker 1>high heel. You're disfigured. Yeah, you can't walk very well. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't again, you can't work in the fields. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And your your foot has been brought to a point

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<v Speaker 1>basically that's ideally three inches long, three inches like that's it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's pointed. And you do this by training your

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<v Speaker 1>foot and your bones too to deform. Yeah. And when

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<v Speaker 1>I say it looks like a high heel, like, your

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<v Speaker 1>foot looks like a shoe, Like the heel is separate

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<v Speaker 1>from the rest of the foot, and a big block

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<v Speaker 1>that looks like the heel of a shoe. And the

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<v Speaker 1>foot is permanently arched and pointy, and the toes are

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<v Speaker 1>cold under and it's just if you look at pictures

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<v Speaker 1>of this, it's horrific looking. Yeah. And it was so

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<v Speaker 1>um entrenched in the Chinese culture that when it was

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<v Speaker 1>outlawed for I guess the first time in nine um,

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<v Speaker 1>it continued on and it took the Communists taking over

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<v Speaker 1>to really get rid of it, and footbinding went the

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<v Speaker 1>way of disco. Um by just practical necessity, UM, women

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<v Speaker 1>had to work in the field and if you had

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<v Speaker 1>bound feet, well you're in big trouble. Yeah, well the

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<v Speaker 1>end of it. Should we talk about the end now

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<v Speaker 1>or should we do it later. Let's do it now. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just mess with the structure the end of it.

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<v Speaker 1>There were a lot of factors at play. One was

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<v Speaker 1>Western missionaries came over there for the first time and said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this is really not what the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the world is doing, and it doesn't make you look

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<v Speaker 1>good by the way. Uh, social Darwinists got on it

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<v Speaker 1>and like, yeah, you know what, we're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>survive as a country because like half of our ppulation

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<v Speaker 1>is hobbled. Essentially, It's like this is gonna be really

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<v Speaker 1>bad for business one day, and so they mounted like

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<v Speaker 1>a real campaign, like an education campaign, which is really

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<v Speaker 1>unusual back then. And uh, they had three phases to it.

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<v Speaker 1>One was that it made you look bad and look

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<v Speaker 1>strange to the rest of the world too. That taught

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<v Speaker 1>the advantages of having normal feet, like walking without pain.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they formed um natural foot societies where people

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<v Speaker 1>would pledge not to do this to their daughters or

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<v Speaker 1>allow their daughter to marry a son, or or allow

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<v Speaker 1>their son to marry a girl. Who had bound feet,

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<v Speaker 1>because that was one of the big deals. If you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have bound feet, then guys would just pass you over.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it took to finally like eradicated. When was that, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that was was that after the nineteen twelve outlaw or

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<v Speaker 1>the no it was leading up to that was formally outlawed,

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<v Speaker 1>but they had government inspectors that would come around and

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you weren't binding feet any longer, and they

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<v Speaker 1>would like hide girls that they still want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like really oppressive and weird because that campaign

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<v Speaker 1>that you just described is basically point for point trying

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<v Speaker 1>to undo a thousand years of custom like if you

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<v Speaker 1>had unbound feet, like natural feet, you were considered a freak.

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<v Speaker 1>They were ugly, there was something wrong with you. And

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<v Speaker 1>even more to the point, uh, no man would marry

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<v Speaker 1>you because bound feet were so idolized in Chinese culture.

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<v Speaker 1>Um that if you were just totally plain or even

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<v Speaker 1>horrendously ugly and every other way, but I really knock

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<v Speaker 1>out bound feet like that was enough for you. You

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<v Speaker 1>were a butterfly, You're gonna do pretty good. That's um yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's hard to believe now, but when you

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<v Speaker 1>see these photos in like the X rays and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like total deformation. Yeah, so let's talk about this.

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<v Speaker 1>There's there's an actual process, fairly straightforward, although extremely painful

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<v Speaker 1>and dangerous. Um. If you, like I think you said,

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<v Speaker 1>you you grab like your four year old daughter, you

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<v Speaker 1>say it's time prepare for a lifetime of pain and

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<v Speaker 1>suffering starting now. And you take your feet and you

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<v Speaker 1>soak them in hot water for a few hours in

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<v Speaker 1>animal blood too. Oh yeah, what did that do? The

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<v Speaker 1>same thing? Softened? It softened up? Okay, so like that

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<v Speaker 1>was the whole purposes of the soaking was to soften

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<v Speaker 1>the skin, make it more pliable, and I imagine the

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<v Speaker 1>muscles too. Um. And then after the soaking you would

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<v Speaker 1>scrape away any dead skin. And then after that their

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<v Speaker 1>toenails were clipped, you know, super short, so they're still kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Are like, Okay, I don't really like the tonio clipping part,

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<v Speaker 1>but the foot soak more than makes up for it. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>And boy do I really It turns out I like

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<v Speaker 1>animal blood, so can my feet in it? And then um,

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<v Speaker 1>the the either their mom or maybe a learned woman

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<v Speaker 1>in the village would say, all right, now we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to start bending your foot. Ye. Who imagine these ladies too,

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<v Speaker 1>if they were the village lady that did it, they

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<v Speaker 1>probably didn't take much guph No, probably not. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they probably don't mess around. Imagine they came in there

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<v Speaker 1>and just sort of took care of business like they've

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<v Speaker 1>heard it all before. But for his is grizzly and

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<v Speaker 1>grotesque or procedure. It's actually a delicate procedure too, because

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<v Speaker 1>if if you can wrap your mind around less, there's

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<v Speaker 1>ways to do it wrong that can lead to problems. Good,

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<v Speaker 1>there's actual risk factors. So uh, the one other thing

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<v Speaker 1>I left out was a sprinkled talc in there to

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<v Speaker 1>keep it from perspiring because you wanted to be dry.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they start bending things right, yeah, Well then

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<v Speaker 1>the cotton comes out the bandages about two inches uh wide,

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<v Speaker 1>about ten feet long, and they would soak those in

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<v Speaker 1>the hot water and blood and herbs as well, because

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<v Speaker 1>they want those to shrink up. It's all about shrinking.

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<v Speaker 1>They want those to shrink up. After they're applied to

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<v Speaker 1>the feet. Um and then the old lady comes up

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<v Speaker 1>and she folds the little four toes that were just clipped,

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<v Speaker 1>not the big toe under as far as she can

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<v Speaker 1>and then starts to do little figure eights to keep

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<v Speaker 1>them in place. You leave the big toe exposed, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and you leave the big toe exposed in the heel exposed,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just cinch those little front toes under. They

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<v Speaker 1>break the toes, it breaks the foot bones. It sounds

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<v Speaker 1>horrific because it is. And it brings the heel closer

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<v Speaker 1>towards the ball of the foot. So the point of

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<v Speaker 1>your feet is now your big toe, The slightly wider

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<v Speaker 1>part behind it is the ball of your foot, and

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<v Speaker 1>then behind that is your heel, and underneath it all

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<v Speaker 1>your four poor, poor little toasts and the top of

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<v Speaker 1>your foot is that this really unreasonable, odd looking arch.

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<v Speaker 1>And because that's like you're in a high heel. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>By making it arched, you're bringing your allowing that distance

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<v Speaker 1>that was once between the ball of the foot and

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<v Speaker 1>the heel to go up rather than between the two.

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<v Speaker 1>You're bringing them together. And so all this has just

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<v Speaker 1>been done to a four year old four years probably

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<v Speaker 1>crying in pain. And after you've finished with the bandages, um,

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<v Speaker 1>the old lady or the mom would probably sew them because,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if you're dealing with a four year old it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to try to get these things off. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>then they say, all right, start walking. Yeah, they put

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<v Speaker 1>a little shoe on there, and that the first steps

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<v Speaker 1>with these things. And imagine many steps after order excruciating,

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<v Speaker 1>the painful. Yeah you know. Well yeah, um, here's the

0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:54.240
<v Speaker 1>here's the craziest part. If you ask me, you do

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<v Speaker 1>this every day for years, well every couple of days, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>every day or every other day is what I them

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<v Speaker 1>to diminish it. Yet for a couple of years. It

0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:05.559
<v Speaker 1>takes a couple of a few years for these things

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<v Speaker 1>to be fully deformed into what are called the lotus

0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:13.600
<v Speaker 1>petals or new moons or whatever. Because it's a bandage,

0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, you you unbind and they actually would like

0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:21.560
<v Speaker 1>need the broken foot, keep it broken and uh dry

0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:24.880
<v Speaker 1>it all out real good because infection, like the toes

0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:26.760
<v Speaker 1>would cut into the foot if they weren't clipped properly.

0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:30.120
<v Speaker 1>So infection and gang green it's too tight all big

0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:33.440
<v Speaker 1>threats to like losing their feet, right, because if you wrap,

0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:35.760
<v Speaker 1>if you wrap them too tight, they can become gangrenous

0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:38.080
<v Speaker 1>because you get gang green, which is a massive loss

0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:42.800
<v Speaker 1>of dead tissue UM due to to poor circulation UM.

0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:44.880
<v Speaker 1>So the foot could just fall off. And like you

0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:46.680
<v Speaker 1>were saying, if you don't clip the toe nails, chuck,

0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:49.160
<v Speaker 1>like you have to do that every day or every

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<v Speaker 1>time you you unwrap and then wrap your feet. And

0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:55.000
<v Speaker 1>then even worse than that, if you didn't wrap them

0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:58.200
<v Speaker 1>pretty quickly after you bathe them every day or the

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<v Speaker 1>other day, um, the it could start to lose their shape,

0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:07.000
<v Speaker 1>which apparently was as painful as in the initial footbinding procedure. Yeah,

0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:09.320
<v Speaker 1>like once your foot has started to take shape, if

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to say, now you know what, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to do this anymore. It's just as painful for

0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:17.440
<v Speaker 1>the foot to undo itself because it's already like malformed.

0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:20.440
<v Speaker 1>But there was like you didn't think that. I think

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<v Speaker 1>once once this happened to you from your mom or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and you grew a little older and you started to

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<v Speaker 1>take over for yourself and you were bathing and wrapping

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<v Speaker 1>your own street every other day. You understood why you

0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:37.600
<v Speaker 1>were doing this because footbinding was so important that you

0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:41.200
<v Speaker 1>could be just completely poverty stricken and some rich dude

0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:43.280
<v Speaker 1>would still be like, I like your feet a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, I can't even breathe right now because your

0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:52.680
<v Speaker 1>feet are so deformed, um that I want to marry you.

0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:56.320
<v Speaker 1>It's so weird. Yeah. So there's uh and beyond being

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<v Speaker 1>wrong and gross and oppressive and all that stuff, it

0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:03.760
<v Speaker 1>was just so odd to me that that was like

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<v Speaker 1>a turn on. Yeah, and man, it was a turn on.

0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Like footbinding was highly highly erotic. You guys like nice feet,

0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:17.000
<v Speaker 1>trust me, I get that, but these deformed Uh, I

0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.040
<v Speaker 1>just don't get it. But this is pretty much a

0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:22.680
<v Speaker 1>national foot fetish. Yeah. Um. And it was nationalized, it

0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:26.200
<v Speaker 1>was cultural, and it was extraordinarily widespread. Like we said,

0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:28.480
<v Speaker 1>about three billion women over the course of a thousand

0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:32.480
<v Speaker 1>years um bound their feet. Yeah. And it had a

0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:36.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of odd effects side effects that went along with it. Um,

0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:40.480
<v Speaker 1>when three billion people do something that hobbles them, there

0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:42.560
<v Speaker 1>are going to be some weird repercussions. Yeah that you

0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:46.440
<v Speaker 1>don't think about. Um. One thing it definitely did was

0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:51.360
<v Speaker 1>it foster dominance over women because of the simple fact

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<v Speaker 1>that if a woman's being beaten, she can't run away. Um,

0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:57.920
<v Speaker 1>a woman can't travel very far period, so they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to hang around their village, in their house, and so

0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:04.560
<v Speaker 1>it just you know, it's like hobbling somebody all of

0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:07.280
<v Speaker 1>a sudden they can't get around as well, so they're

0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:11.920
<v Speaker 1>just dependent on you, right, and they really aren't traveling much,

0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:14.560
<v Speaker 1>not a lot of traveling going on on your feet

0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:17.320
<v Speaker 1>are bound. Um. And then also the fact that you

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<v Speaker 1>they have women with bound feet had trouble walking UM

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<v Speaker 1>meant that the architecture of China kind of was created

0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:29.080
<v Speaker 1>to help this out. Like they had to lean on

0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:33.720
<v Speaker 1>windows or walls. I mean, so buildings were built close

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<v Speaker 1>together so the average woman could could you know, lean

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<v Speaker 1>on a wall whilst she was walking. Yeah, and there

0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:42.080
<v Speaker 1>weren't a lot of six story walk ups in in

0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:44.919
<v Speaker 1>ancient China, man, that would have been cruel. Everything was

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<v Speaker 1>one story as a result, so it yeah, it had

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<v Speaker 1>a weird impact on the architecture in uh what else colonization, Yeah,

0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:57.399
<v Speaker 1>that was a really big one that yeah. Um, you know,

0:17:57.680 --> 0:17:59.879
<v Speaker 1>most people realize that China didn't do a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>exploring um while the rest of the world was. It

0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:05.720
<v Speaker 1>just kind of isolated itself and shut itself off. And

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<v Speaker 1>one of the um reasons given for that was that

0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:13.680
<v Speaker 1>the women were foot bound and they couldn't travel like um,

0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:18.679
<v Speaker 1>women in other countries who could walk normally did UM.

0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:22.440
<v Speaker 1>So with the Chinese women unable to travel, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess see the sites. Uh, their men didn't want

0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:29.879
<v Speaker 1>to leave them, so they stayed at home. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>actually the areas that didn't practice footbinding are the ones

0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:36.520
<v Speaker 1>that actually did go out and colonize other places, like

0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:40.320
<v Speaker 1>the Philippines. They were so Southern China. Yeah, or the

0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:42.280
<v Speaker 1>Old West like every Great Old West show has, like

0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:47.119
<v Speaker 1>the one Chinese immigrant family with the ponytails. Yeah. Um.

0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:49.800
<v Speaker 1>The article points out, like we're being hard on it

0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:53.440
<v Speaker 1>because it's easy to look and today it's some antiquated

0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:57.640
<v Speaker 1>practice is really cruel and unusual and weird. But um,

0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:01.119
<v Speaker 1>at the time they in the women you know, wanted

0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:04.760
<v Speaker 1>their feet bound. There were great bonds between the generations

0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:06.960
<v Speaker 1>because it was such a cultural thing between the women.

0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:10.080
<v Speaker 1>They would sew their shoes together. Um. I listened to

0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:13.159
<v Speaker 1>this one MPR Fresh Air that interviewed someone some of

0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:16.399
<v Speaker 1>these old Chinese ladies that still you know, are some

0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:19.840
<v Speaker 1>of the last surviving ones, and a couple of them said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I really regret it now, it's been a

0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:25.080
<v Speaker 1>lifetime of pain. But most of them said, no, we

0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:27.359
<v Speaker 1>wanted to do it. And this was I'm very proud

0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:29.400
<v Speaker 1>of the fact that we did this. Yeah, and these

0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:32.440
<v Speaker 1>are these are women who are confronted with the outside

0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:35.120
<v Speaker 1>world and they still feel pride about their bound feet.

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<v Speaker 1>You can imagine how much pride a woman had in

0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:40.840
<v Speaker 1>her bound feet while it was the norm, you know,

0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:43.600
<v Speaker 1>because it was basically the norm in China, and these

0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:46.239
<v Speaker 1>women weren't going out anywhere else. So if you had

0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:48.240
<v Speaker 1>really nice bound feet, that was a huge point of

0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:51.440
<v Speaker 1>pride for you. So one of the other weird things

0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:55.560
<v Speaker 1>we need to talk about is sexy time, because we

0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:58.479
<v Speaker 1>talked about foot fetishes and things, but it really like

0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:03.040
<v Speaker 1>something happen and in the water at this time where

0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Chinese men really really got into it and they would

0:20:07.520 --> 0:20:10.200
<v Speaker 1>take the shoe off in these odd deformed feet and

0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:13.160
<v Speaker 1>they would like do weird things like drink the water

0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:16.000
<v Speaker 1>that they bathe their feet in, or put nuts between

0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:20.040
<v Speaker 1>the toes and eat the nuts from their toes, and uh,

0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:23.200
<v Speaker 1>just really odd things. I also read that it became

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<v Speaker 1>a another orifice. I guess if you can imagine, oh

0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:33.280
<v Speaker 1>really yeah, and even outside of that, I guess one

0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:35.080
<v Speaker 1>of the more normal things to do is to bury

0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:37.760
<v Speaker 1>your face in the center of the bottom of the

0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:43.240
<v Speaker 1>foot and really get like a good whiff boat motor boat. Notice,

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<v Speaker 1>smell it and then chuck. We should point out that

0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:49.800
<v Speaker 1>if you're doing that, if you're burying your face in

0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:54.600
<v Speaker 1>the deformed foot of a foot bound woman. Um, one

0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:57.359
<v Speaker 1>of the things that happens pretty commonly when your feet

0:20:57.400 --> 0:21:02.400
<v Speaker 1>are bound is that they developed pustules that break and stink.

0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:06.600
<v Speaker 1>And so there is a I read one guy a

0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:10.800
<v Speaker 1>contemporary report from several centuries ago saying like, there's no

0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:13.520
<v Speaker 1>other smell like it in the world, Nothing as sexy

0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:18.720
<v Speaker 1>as a deformed foot with leaking, stinky pustules. Yeah. So um, yeah,

0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:21.159
<v Speaker 1>there was a definite fetish that grew up around it.

0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:24.840
<v Speaker 1>There was a UM at least one sex manual released

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<v Speaker 1>with I think forty eight different um things to do

0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:35.160
<v Speaker 1>with um and uh, there the shoes. We didn't talk

0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:37.800
<v Speaker 1>about the shoes if they play a role in that

0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:41.480
<v Speaker 1>eroticism as well. All about the strengthening of the muscles,

0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:45.359
<v Speaker 1>that's a big part. Yeah, yeah, apparently the there was

0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:47.880
<v Speaker 1>a theory at least that because they had to walk

0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:52.240
<v Speaker 1>so funny and oddly, that their vaginal muscles were extra

0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:56.920
<v Speaker 1>strong and thus more pleasurable to the man. So um.

0:21:57.000 --> 0:22:00.320
<v Speaker 1>And then so the average woman with foot bound shoe

0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:04.760
<v Speaker 1>or with with bound feet. I'm sorry everybody, Um, she

0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:07.000
<v Speaker 1>had at least four pairs of shoes you had to

0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:10.119
<v Speaker 1>or else like there was no point in in having

0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:12.280
<v Speaker 1>bound feet. You had to have one for each season.

0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:15.240
<v Speaker 1>Ideally you had at least four pair per season. So

0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:18.439
<v Speaker 1>sixteen some women had hundreds of these, and they were

0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:21.600
<v Speaker 1>designed to really like show off, like, hey, look at

0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:23.880
<v Speaker 1>my bound feet, buddy. You know that's what they were

0:22:23.920 --> 0:22:26.639
<v Speaker 1>there for. Um. But there was one specific one that

0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:31.280
<v Speaker 1>were always read. They were your wedding shoes, and inside

0:22:32.119 --> 0:22:36.800
<v Speaker 1>there was erotic embroidery which the husband, the new husband

0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:39.800
<v Speaker 1>and the new wife would look at and like try

0:22:39.840 --> 0:22:41.960
<v Speaker 1>out together. It's kind of an instruction manual for the

0:22:42.240 --> 0:22:45.760
<v Speaker 1>bride by her mother or the women of the town,

0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:48.320
<v Speaker 1>like just do this. Here's a picture of what you're

0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:51.000
<v Speaker 1>supposed to do tonight. Yeah, and slippers period. I think

0:22:51.040 --> 0:22:53.720
<v Speaker 1>we're just it was almost like the lingerie of the time,

0:22:54.400 --> 0:22:58.520
<v Speaker 1>because they would the bedroom slippers were more like uh embroidered,

0:22:58.560 --> 0:23:01.560
<v Speaker 1>like more sexily as well in just your average like

0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:03.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, I gotta go to the shop and pick

0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:07.880
<v Speaker 1>up some rice shoes, you know. So the Chinese communists

0:23:07.880 --> 0:23:10.840
<v Speaker 1>came along now and his comrades and said, you know what,

0:23:11.000 --> 0:23:13.199
<v Speaker 1>you're a woman. We don't care. Get to work digging

0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:15.800
<v Speaker 1>ditches and oh your bound feet hurt you. Well, I

0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:18.560
<v Speaker 1>guess you're gonna starve because we give food based on

0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:20.560
<v Speaker 1>how much work you did. If you don't do the work,

0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:24.639
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna starve death. That led to the real conclusion

0:23:24.680 --> 0:23:27.840
<v Speaker 1>of footbinding, and apparently today they say with great authority

0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:31.440
<v Speaker 1>that no one does it any longer. Yeah, that's good

0:23:31.480 --> 0:23:37.040
<v Speaker 1>to know. I'm surprised that it completely died out, because

0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:40.880
<v Speaker 1>do you think there'd be like some remote families here there?

0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:45.400
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean, it's well, welcome to the modern age,

0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:47.960
<v Speaker 1>this is what I say. And that just a bizarre,

0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:52.800
<v Speaker 1>strange chapter, thousand year chapter and one of the most

0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:57.320
<v Speaker 1>populous nations on the planet's history, and very few people

0:23:57.400 --> 0:24:00.479
<v Speaker 1>know about it. Well, now a lot more people do,

0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:03.639
<v Speaker 1>that's right. Uh, you got anything else? No, you know,

0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:06.320
<v Speaker 1>you can't, like there's no place we can direct people

0:24:06.359 --> 0:24:08.840
<v Speaker 1>to voice their outrage because it doesn't happen anymore. No,

0:24:09.080 --> 0:24:10.879
<v Speaker 1>but I'm sure we're gonna get a lot of suggestions

0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:13.560
<v Speaker 1>for female genital mutilation, and we should probably do that one.

0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Female circumcision. We haven't done that. No, we did male circumcision.

0:24:17.560 --> 0:24:20.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't think we talked about female. I think we'd

0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:22.560
<v Speaker 1>like mentioned it, said we'll do that later. Oh, well,

0:24:22.760 --> 0:24:25.680
<v Speaker 1>there you have it. We'll do it again. Uh So,

0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:27.560
<v Speaker 1>if you want to learn more about foot binding and

0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:33.199
<v Speaker 1>see some pictures of some um unshod bound feet, you

0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:36.600
<v Speaker 1>can type foot binding in the search bar how stuff

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<v Speaker 1>works dot com and will bring up this article. And

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<v Speaker 1>I said search bar, which means it's time for a message.

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<v Speaker 1>Break all right now, listener mail right, that's right, I'm

0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:20.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna call this. We're plugging something, and we when we

0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:22.520
<v Speaker 1>asked to plug things, we get a lot of people

0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:26.840
<v Speaker 1>right in for like good charities, and we can only

0:25:26.880 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 1>do a certain amount of otherwise we'd be reading charity

0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:32.280
<v Speaker 1>plugs all the time. So apologies to those who don't

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<v Speaker 1>get there's read. But this is from Kate. Have a nicht,

0:25:36.880 --> 0:25:38.800
<v Speaker 1>she said, don't wry about saying my last name wrong.

0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:41.680
<v Speaker 1>No one does. If you just did you get a

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<v Speaker 1>fruit basket? I demand one. It's got to be German.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good stuff. She lives in Bozeman, Montana. She says

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:50.639
<v Speaker 1>it's the most beautiful place on Earth. And she's just

0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:53.360
<v Speaker 1>been listening for a few months because her brother Jack

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:55.639
<v Speaker 1>is awesome and turned her onto it. I'm ready to

0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:59.080
<v Speaker 1>go to Jack. So during listener mail, guys, you uh

0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:02.119
<v Speaker 1>supported some the awesome charities and groups that try to

0:26:02.119 --> 0:26:03.680
<v Speaker 1>make the role a better place. A friend of mine

0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:06.240
<v Speaker 1>works for such a place. It's a coffee brewing company

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<v Speaker 1>called Brown Water Coffee, which got started here in Bozeman

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<v Speaker 1>a few years ago and is now based in Denver.

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<v Speaker 1>The great thing about these guys is it fift cent

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<v Speaker 1>of their profits go directly to getting clean water to

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<v Speaker 1>those who need it, hence the great double meeting of

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<v Speaker 1>the name brown Water. Uh. They're also a small company

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<v Speaker 1>with only a handful of employees, but so far I've

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<v Speaker 1>done an amazing job. Not only is it a great cause,

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<v Speaker 1>but their package design is awesome. And I can say

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<v Speaker 1>that because I'm a recent drad of graphic design from

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<v Speaker 1>Montana State University. Go Bobcats. The coffee is fantastic. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really some of the best I've ever had, so

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<v Speaker 1>she highly recommends seriously. They sell it in shops mostly

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<v Speaker 1>in the Northwest at the moment, so unfortunately won't be

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<v Speaker 1>able to get your hands on it, but if you

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<v Speaker 1>send me an address, I would be more than happy

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<v Speaker 1>to send them along. Do they sell it online? You

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<v Speaker 1>would think, so sell it online, she said, check them

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<v Speaker 1>out on Facebook. Soon they will have their website back

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<v Speaker 1>up and running after a quick redesign, so I'd be

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<v Speaker 1>at static if you mentioned them on the show. Shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to Ricky owner and founder, and Katie graphic designer

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<v Speaker 1>and Stevie who was the master brewer at Brown Water Coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>So hopefully by the time this comes out, they'll have

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<v Speaker 1>their website up and running. So I imagine if you

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<v Speaker 1>search for brown Water Coffee it would come up, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I would think in this day and age, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to find something out online. I would

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<v Speaker 1>think so by the time that comes up, So get

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<v Speaker 1>with it, Brownwater Coffee. If you haven't already, Thank you, Kate. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for writing and Kate, it's pretty awesome of you.

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