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Speaker 1: that's not time. Welcome to one Bills Live Steve Tasker

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Speaker 1: along with Chris Brown here with you until three o'clock.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk Buffalo, Bill's, NFL all of that stuff

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Speaker 1: all day every day. We've also got some word uh

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Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna be able to watch him. Uh, all of

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Speaker 1: that stuff going on. Chris Brown, how are you doing today,

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Speaker 1: by the way, and how is your evening last night?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? I'm doing okay, man? Yeah, fired up

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Speaker 1: to kel zones last night. One of our favorite family meals,

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Speaker 1: Make your own cail zone. Yeah. Cow zones are a

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Speaker 1: We just stick with the homemade pizzas. Yeah, I get that,

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Speaker 1: and we make cal zones a little differently. You know,

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Speaker 1: most people, or at least most pizzerias make it without

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Speaker 1: Italian blood and you see it, you go out there,

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Speaker 1: so you say it a little differently. And I'm not Italian,

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Speaker 1: Let's put this into perspective, Brownie for you and me,

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Speaker 1: We're getting deep here, man, Yes, the pizza show. Strong feelings.

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Speaker 1: We're here till three o'clock. We'll talk about what you want.

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Speaker 1: us me and Brownie talking about it because it kind

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Speaker 1: If there's no fans in the stands for the NFL

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Speaker 1: entire stadium. It was weird. It was eerie, and so

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Speaker 1: I think the networks ultimately are going to have to

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Speaker 1: do something on some level, because fans are going to

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Speaker 1: be starved for what they know NFL football to be.

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Speaker 1: And if there are those fans in the stands, I'm

430
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Speaker 1: telling you, the atmosphere is going to look strange and

431
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 1: from another planet, it just doesn't look right. So I

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Speaker 1: think the networks, especially with the money they invest to

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Speaker 1: televise these games, are smart enough to know they're going

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Speaker 1: to have to do better and make up in some

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Speaker 1: way for no fans in the stands. If that in

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00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 1: fact proves to be the case, well I think that

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe I don't know, I'm we can have that

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Speaker 1: just can we can continue this discussion as well? If

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Speaker 1: there are no fans in the stands, what should the

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Speaker 1: broadcasters do to fill that void? Fifty six percent of

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Speaker 1: the fifty seven percent of the people who are responding today, Brownie,

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00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 1: they say, just mike the players up. I just want

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Speaker 1: to hear what's going on on the field. Twenty four

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Speaker 1: percent of the people say, hey, pump in the crowd noise.

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Speaker 1: Ten percent of the people or nine point seven percent,

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00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 1: say fill them with stuffed animals and cardboard cutouts, and

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Speaker 1: ten percent have something else. In nine and a half

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Speaker 1: percent have something else involved. We've got Steve Tasker, Chris

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Speaker 1: Brown here, we're here till three. Doug Farrar of USA

450
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 1: Today is coming on later in the show. Eric Would

451
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 1: former player, a former first round draft pick of the

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00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: Bills who's a radio analyst. He's going to come on

453
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Speaker 1: with us. I think when you start talking about it,

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Speaker 1: I hate to be this cynical, and I know I

455
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: sound like a guy who who is. But to me,

456
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: it depends on You're right. People are gonna be watching

457
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Speaker 1: these games no matter what, particularly in the local markets.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have whatever seventy five thousand people who would

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Speaker 1: have gone to the game who didn't of those are

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00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: gonna go watch that game at home in some in

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Speaker 1: some way, shape or form. How much effort or money

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00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: and basically how much expense do you invest in something

463
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Speaker 1: that's not going to give you any kind of return

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Speaker 1: And people are not going to turn the game off

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Speaker 1: if it's a bad if it's a good game, just

466
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Speaker 1: because there's no crowd noise. I think it comes down

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Speaker 1: to overhead. Whatever's the cheapest way to do it and

468
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: to make these games go on, You're not worried about

469
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: the last thing an NFL game needs is a boost

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00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: in ratings they get. They're the monster ratings get or

471
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Speaker 1: that's why they're the eight hundred pound gorilla. So it's

472
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Speaker 1: not gonna be about that. I think it'll be you

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Speaker 1: know what just occurred to me, Brownie, CBS will Fox

474
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Speaker 1: will care what's CBS doing, and CBS will say, well,

475
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Speaker 1: what's Fox doing? And do people like their's better than ours?

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Speaker 1: We gotta do exactly what they do. Oh, there there

477
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Speaker 1: will be litmus testing through the first few weeks if

478
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Speaker 1: there are no fans, because this is uncharted territory. I

479
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 1: wonder if they'll do it on live weekend. It's like, okay,

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00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: like opening weekend, we're gonna find out, all right, Um,

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Speaker 1: Buffalo hosting the Jets. I guess that's why I can't

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Speaker 1: remember that. Yeah, here we go, Yeah, Buffalo hosting the Jets.

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Speaker 1: All right, for that, we are going to you know,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna pump in crowd noise. But for New England

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Speaker 1: on the road in Kansas City, I don't even know

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Speaker 1: if that's a game. I'm just saying we are going

487
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: to go quiet and we're gonna mike up more players

488
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,479
Speaker 1: and that you know, this is all in week one.

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Speaker 1: They do it in different do it differently in different

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Speaker 1: stadiums around the league, and because of that, they get

491
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: a litmus tests of who liked it, what they like,

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00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:28,719
Speaker 1: what they didn't like, and all that, and then by

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00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: week two they've got a wired in. Right. Oh, absolutely think.

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Speaker 1: I think there'll be changes as they go along too,

495
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 1: to tweak it, make it better, or this worked really well,

496
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Speaker 1: let's do more of that, and let's do less of this,

497
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: or you know, think about this too, Steve. We're talking

498
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Speaker 1: about micing up more players as an option. But let's

499
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: not forget what happened with Sam Darnold when he got

500
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: miked up last year with the whole ic ghosts thing,

501
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden that went away real fast.

502
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: And you gotta believe that there are going to be

503
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: some coaches that are going to resist that for fear

504
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: of certain things, whether it's scheme or terminology being revealed inadvertently.

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00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: So right, yeah, that's might get some pushback. Yeah, the

506
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: football people are going to push back on that a

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00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: little bit. I think they'll push back on that a lot.

508
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: And what happens is when those miked up things happen,

509
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: somebody up there with the network and also with the

510
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 1: team is saying, you can use that, you can use that.

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00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: I want to use this, and the team goes, no,

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Speaker 1: you can't use that kind of thing. Right, Certainly, there's

513
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: an overall sensor that you can't have guys cursing and

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00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: cussing and doing all that and name calling or whatever

515
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: you do out there. That's a non starter anyway. But

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Speaker 1: there is also terminology and things that happen out there

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Speaker 1: that the team is saying, no, you can't use that, No,

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Speaker 1: you can't use that. That's why it was a little

519
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: bit of an outrage when Sam Darnold wasn't you know,

520
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: it was embarrassing for him when he's saying I'm seeing ghosts.

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00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: It looks bad for him, looks bad for the Jets,

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Speaker 1: it looks you know, it looks bad. So you know

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Speaker 1: they they you're gonna get some pushback from NFL teams

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00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: because of a micd up issue. So I don't know

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00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: what it'll take off, like we all know and hope

526
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: it would, but I think it is an interesting scenario.

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00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: I don't think it's been decided yet on what these

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00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: networks are gonna do, right, I think there's still up

529
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: in the air. Yeah, well, yeah, because I think they

530
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: want to know, are we gonna have anybody in the stands,

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Speaker 1: Is it going to be a partial crowd? You know,

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Speaker 1: what are we doing there? And here's another thing to

533
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Speaker 1: think about too, you know that if there are only

534
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: partial fan capacity there might you know, that's lost game

535
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: day revenue for the clubs, and they're gonna be looking

536
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: to make that up somewhere. Maybe they try to make

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Speaker 1: a deal with the networks to say, hey, you know,

538
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: our game day signage here is not being seen by

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Speaker 1: any eyeballs or twenty five percent of the eyeballs per

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Speaker 1: home game. Is it okay if we you know, throw

541
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Speaker 1: that up in a digital graphic behind the uprights on

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00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: every field goal attempt, Yeah, to get our exposure that

543
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: way college sports, Yeah, right, So the network might be like, uh, no,

544
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: freaking way, we're paying billions of dollars for your product.

545
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: We're going to use our own ad space there to

546
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: try to make up the money we pay you. Or

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00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: maybe they do come to some kind of an agreement.

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Speaker 1: So there are a lot of different things that could

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Speaker 1: come out of this, you know, based on how it

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Speaker 1: goes at the outset in September. If there are no

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Speaker 1: fans in the stands. What should broadcasters do to fill

552
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Speaker 1: a void? Give us a call or tweet at us.

553
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Speaker 1: We've got tweet sheet coming up after the break. Doug

554
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Speaker 1: Ferrar coming up at one o'clock and at two o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Eric Wood, the Buffalo Bills radio analysts and the former

556
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Speaker 1: first round pick of the team. This is One Bills Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health. Let's take a break. This is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to one of those lives

559
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: tea tasks. Along with Chris Brown, we're talking about what's

560
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: going on with the possibility that or the possibility there

561
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Speaker 1: may be no fans in the stands for NFL games,

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Speaker 1: or would it be twenty five percent of the fans

563
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Speaker 1: or whatever percentage you can pick. You can pick the

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Speaker 1: one you want. We're asking what it should do and

565
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: what should the broadcast look like with those kind of

566
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Speaker 1: things in place, you know what's it gonna look like?

567
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: Should they should they make up the players and just

568
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: let the game be silent so you could hear exactly

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Speaker 1: what goes on on the field. Fifty seven percent of

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00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: the people who responded say yeah, that's what they want.

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00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: More than half the people think man they just want

572
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: to hear what's going on in the field. And that's

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Speaker 1: also I think what I would like to hear, Brownie,

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Speaker 1: because that's the more interesting thing to me. If we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go with no fans, let's hear what's going on

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Speaker 1: out there. I think that's also. Unfortunately, I think that's

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00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: where they're going to get. The broadcaster's gonna get more

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Speaker 1: pushback from the football side of things. They don't want

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Speaker 1: that stuff out there. Although what are you gonna do, Uh,

580
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: it's gonna be that the other team's gonna be there

581
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: hearing it anyway. And I would imagine if if your

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00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: lights are on, which I think the bills are, don't

583
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: you set up microphones in your home stadium to pick

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00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: up all that any you know, if if it's quiet

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00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: in there, I would I'd have a guy I know

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00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: what team definitely, yeah right, I mean, you got a

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Speaker 1: parabolic mic somewhere pointed right at the bench area and everything.

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00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: If if it's gonna be you know, if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to focus your ears and hear it over

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Speaker 1: the dit with no crowd noise, he hear what Let's

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00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: hear what they say. Let's get their language and learn it.

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00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: That's what fifty seven people percent of the people think, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's let's hear what's going on on the field. U

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Speaker 1: Twenty four percent of the people say, no, pump in

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Speaker 1: crowd noise, make it seem more normal. Uh, it's all

596
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: this is all too outland. It's give me a regular

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00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: broadcast with fans. However you can make it happen. That's

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00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: what they want to do. Ten percent of the people say, yeah,

599
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: fill the seats with stuffed animal cardboard cutouts. I don't care.

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Speaker 1: Make it look like somebody's there. And ten percent or

601
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: nine percent of the people have something else in mind.

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Speaker 1: You can give us a call at eighth three five

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Speaker 1: fifty or one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty. Brownie,

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Speaker 1: you got some stuff on the tweet sheet. You got

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Speaker 1: that in front of those here with that first one,

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Speaker 1: that's pretty interesting, Yeah, the first one from Mark here.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to have the option of virtual reality viewing

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Speaker 1: of sporting events. You could pay for a season ticket

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Speaker 1: with virtual viewing from front row seats or sideline cameras.

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00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: Owners want butts in seats, but in this circumstance, this

611
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: may be a great opportunity. So basically pick your camera angle, yeah,

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00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: which I know ESPN has experimented with with certain live

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Speaker 1: sporting events like the college National Championship game. They have

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Speaker 1: it on their family of networks. They have it on ESPN,

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Speaker 1: ESPN two and ESPN News, and all three networks are

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Speaker 1: televising the game in a different way, either down on

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Speaker 1: the sideline where it's exclusively like sideline type camera level,

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00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: the regular broadcast which is on the main network, and

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00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,959
Speaker 1: then ESPN News has more of an interactive thing. While

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00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: the game is there, there's social social media commentary going

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Speaker 1: on in the right rail, and you have two hosts

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Speaker 1: that are kind of reacting to the social media responses

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Speaker 1: and giving their opinions on it. And the game is

624
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: almost a sidelight or a secondary kind of thing, but

625
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: it's there. So it's a more interactive kind of broadcast.

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00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 1: So why couldn't you offer the twelve different camera angles

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00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: and let the viewer play technical director and pick the

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Speaker 1: camera shot they want. Yeah, you might be able to

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Speaker 1: sell that. Yeah, I'm well, they can sell that. There'll

630
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: be people all over that one to buy that, people

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Speaker 1: who you know. And the big gain obviously in this

632
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: market is that you've got people who can't go to

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Speaker 1: the game would like to, And then you've got people

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Speaker 1: who don't would never go to the game, they want

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00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: to watch it on TV, and then they have the

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Speaker 1: choice of watching it with new things. And certainly it's

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Speaker 1: a great idea if you've got the technological savvy to

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Speaker 1: make it work as a network and all of that

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Speaker 1: and all the logistics. I don't know what that would take,

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Speaker 1: but you're right, Brown, I don't know if it would

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Speaker 1: take three different broadcast crews, three different sets of cameras,

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Speaker 1: or a couple of different technical directors working either way,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a really intriguing option for a lot

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Speaker 1: of people. And it brings up another point that this

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Speaker 1: was in our rundown from the first segment that I

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Speaker 1: didn't get to it. TNT in their NBA coverage is

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00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: gonna have the guys called in the games from a studio.

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00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: They're not even gonna be on site. So the broadcast

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00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: crew maybe in the there's and I've done this with

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Speaker 1: football games as well, back in the day, where the

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Speaker 1: where the play by play guy and the analysts are sitting,

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00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 1: you know, three thousand miles away in a studio watching

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Speaker 1: it on a screen. All of that is, you know,

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00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 1: it's been done before, and now it's going to happen

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Speaker 1: for the NBA when they come back with no fans

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00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: in the stands, the game is going to be there

657
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: and the and the broadcast team isn't even going to

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Speaker 1: be in the building. So Germany League is doing that

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Speaker 1: right now with the broadcasters. They are not on site

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00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 1: because they don't want to add to the exposure risk,

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00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: right and so technologically there's a they're capable of doing

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Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff that they just haven't done because

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Speaker 1: for whatever reason, maybe it's just because well it's never

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Speaker 1: been done, we don't have we're not going to mess

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Speaker 1: with a particularly in the NFL. Brownie, you can see

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Speaker 1: the mentality of like, listen, it's not broken, let's not

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Speaker 1: fix it, you know, but uh and it's just like

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Speaker 1: our guest coming on at one o'clock. Doug Ferrar, the

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Speaker 1: author of this book, The Genius of Desperation, this pandemic

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Speaker 1: and the desire to package the NFL in a way

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00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: they've never had a chance to or never been able to,

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Speaker 1: or never had a reason to it may come up

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Speaker 1: with some alternative things that may catch hold. And let's

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Speaker 1: just say the league might figure out how to monetize. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Necessity is the mother of invention. I mean, that's that

676
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: might be the road you're going down here. Just opportunity

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Speaker 1: can't Yeah, but just because you can't have fans in

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Speaker 1: the stands, you better find other ways. Now here's the

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Speaker 1: here's the interesting counter argument to that, Because even though

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Speaker 1: the vast majority of revenue that a team generates comes

681
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: through the broadcast network deals, we're thinking about, it's about

682
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: a it's about seventy five. I don't think total stuff

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Speaker 1: is broadcast right, right. I don't think they want to

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00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: throw away that other twenty five percent out of hand

685
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: and just never come back to fans in the stands. Again,

686
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Speaker 1: I think there might be a real conversation and concern

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Speaker 1: that if you make it too good, you may never

688
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: get the people back. Now, there will always be people

689
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Speaker 1: that go to NFL games. You just have the diet

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Speaker 1: in the wool, need to be there type people. And

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Speaker 1: then you have the more casual fans that maybe take

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Speaker 1: in a game or two a season, right, And if

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Speaker 1: you make this home experience even better than it already is,

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Speaker 1: I wonder, I wonder if people consider the risk factors. Again,

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Speaker 1: we're going to get into that familiar phrase that we've

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Speaker 1: heard all the time with all these potential NFL rule changes,

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Speaker 1: unintended consequences. Right, It's a good point you bring up,

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Speaker 1: because the better that the at home experience gets, the

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Speaker 1: less you want to go sit next to a stranger,

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Speaker 1: even with or without a pandemic. When you can get

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Speaker 1: in everybody in there and fill the state, you don't

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00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: want to go in there and sit with people you

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00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: don't know or around people you really don't know and

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00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: watch this game and you know you gotta get up,

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00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: you gotta walk, you know, two hundred yards to go

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Speaker 1: to the bathroom, whatever whatever it is. But by the

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Speaker 1: same joken, I think football lends itself to having an

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Speaker 1: atmosphere that is more about a day long experience with

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Speaker 1: your family, tailgating and all its particularly here in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: And I do think though, Brownie, it could signal maybe

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Speaker 1: the end of the ninety thousand seat stadiums like you've

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Speaker 1: got in Dallas, right, could signal the end of these

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Speaker 1: mega complexes like in like Sofi Stadium in La Maybe

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Speaker 1: all these stadiums turn out to be fifty thousand seat stadiums.

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Speaker 1: And a little bit more plush, a little bit more homey.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they start to turn into places like the La

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Speaker 1: Chargers Stadium where there's twenty five thousand seats, but all

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Speaker 1: those seats could be made into you know, suits, you

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Speaker 1: know kind of thing where you can watch the game

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Speaker 1: on TV and sit in a seat and watch it live.

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Speaker 1: All of that stuff is It's an evolutionary process, and

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Speaker 1: I don't see it happening overnight. That's the thing. You're

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Speaker 1: not gonna These big stadiums aren't going anywhere fast. They're

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Speaker 1: they're here for decades and decades and decades to come.

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Speaker 1: But you're right, there is a balance between the in

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Speaker 1: house game day experience in the stadium and what they

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Speaker 1: make on it compared to how good they can make

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Speaker 1: the out of stadium experience on the broadcast and how

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Speaker 1: they can monetize that, and the balance between the difference

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Speaker 1: between the two, right, I mean, I'm with you. I

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Speaker 1: think there will always be people who want to go

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Speaker 1: and want to be there. I mean, you you're trying

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Speaker 1: to fill a potential void if no fans can be

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Speaker 1: in the stands. But you almost don't want the networks

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Speaker 1: to be too good at it. Right, But I don't

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Speaker 1: know here, you're the network are fighting to be better

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Speaker 1: at it. Well, yeah, it goes. Well, here's what happens.

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Speaker 1: The better they make it, the higher the ratings and

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Speaker 1: the more broadcast revenue you get. Now you have competing

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Speaker 1: agendas there, that's what I'm talking about. You have competing

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00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: agendas exactly. The league has an agenda where they want

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Speaker 1: people to come in and the game day experience in

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Speaker 1: the stadium is so good they'll pay five hundred bucks

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Speaker 1: for you know, for third level back row all the way.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. They're paying outlandish prices for

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Speaker 1: the worst seat in the house, and you can imagine

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Speaker 1: what the best seats are. I mean, that's i I'm exaggerating. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: nobody's gonna pay that kind of money for a seat

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Speaker 1: where you can barely see the game in house. But

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Speaker 1: that's kind of the holy grail right where you've got

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Speaker 1: this product that's so great in house, the people will

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Speaker 1: pay the money whatever it is. You maximize whatever revenue

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Speaker 1: that is so that they do want to be there.

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Speaker 1: And then of course the broadcasters they want If you're

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Speaker 1: not at the stadium, you have to watch it on

756
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: TV because the pro gramming is so good. It's it's

757
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: so lively, it's so entertaining. The games are good, the

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00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: on screen and the options you have for viewing it

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00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: with We've been talking about this camera angled choice that

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00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: you might have. There's a lot on the table here

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00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: and the NFL and this pandemic for the first time

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Speaker 1: or more so than any other time in history, Brownie,

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Speaker 1: we may get a chance to explore some of these options.

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Speaker 1: That's the fun part of it right now, That is

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Speaker 1: the fun part. I just think there there could be

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Speaker 1: some trepidation on the part of owners that they may

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00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 1: be opening up a Pandora's box to the networks if

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00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: they give them too many freedoms, you know, in this

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Speaker 1: next broadcast rights deal, because they have to make up

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Speaker 1: for the lack of a stadium of experience if there

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Speaker 1: isn't one. But at the same time, you know, there's

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Speaker 1: there's revenue that they're going to be trying to recoup

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Speaker 1: in years to come, hopefully if that proves to be

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Speaker 1: the case for this fall, and I think they might

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00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: be concerned, are we seeding too much to the networks

776
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Speaker 1: for this year? And might we pay for it even

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Speaker 1: more in future years? Steve Tasker, Chris Brown here at

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live. Up coming up at the top of

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Speaker 1: the hour Doug fer Our USA Today Sports. Later on

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00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: in the program, Eric Wood coming on. This is One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live, presented by Kalid to Health and this is

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00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio walking back with One Bill's Live, Steve Tasker,

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00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, and until three o'clock today, We've got Eric

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Speaker 1: Wood coming up later in the show. At the top

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Speaker 1: of the hour, Doug fer Our of USA Today Sports.

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Speaker 1: We've been been talking about what's going to happen if

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Speaker 1: there are no fans in the stands. It's a topic

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00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: that's been banging around a lot lately, and we're trying

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Speaker 1: to We're asking you, the listeners, what you think broadcast

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00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: should look like if indeed there are no fans in

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Speaker 1: the stands. We have some pretty good stuff from the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet and you can give us a call if

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Speaker 1: you want to and get on the year. At eight

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Speaker 1: oh three, five fifty fifty from Brian, he says, somehow

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Speaker 1: make it a natural crowd noise. Put everyone and he says,

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Speaker 1: put everyone on a group call or a zoom meeting

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00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: or you know one of these uh virtual meetings, set

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Speaker 1: it up and pump the pump that in as crowd noise.

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Speaker 1: His line, and it was used by the German Brownie

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Speaker 1: was used by the German soccer team where they had

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Speaker 1: a guy who knew the emotions of the crowd what

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Speaker 1: they should be, and they had him pick it from

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Speaker 1: a menu. But Bryan says, hey, just use real people

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Speaker 1: and do it on the internet pipe in the internet

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Speaker 1: crowd on a zoom call, kind of like what the

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Speaker 1: NFL did during the draft when a team was on

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Speaker 1: the clock and Goodell was trying to amp up all

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Speaker 1: these fans on a twelve cube screen behind him. If

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Speaker 1: you remember, if you watch the draft, I say that

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Speaker 1: could work. I know if it's gonna sound the same.

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Speaker 1: That was my least favorite part of the draft, by

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Speaker 1: the way it was. People felt a little felt a

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Speaker 1: little forced, didn't it It did? I didn't. I don't

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Speaker 1: like it. That's a I mean, I get the idea,

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Speaker 1: but no, you don't need to do that. If you can,

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Speaker 1: if you have pumped in crowd noise, they can pick

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Speaker 1: the emotion of the crowd noise. They've done it in Germans,

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00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: they can do it. Yeah, I agree. I think that's

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Speaker 1: a much better, a much better way to do it.

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Speaker 1: We got another one. What's the next one? On the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet from case go ahead? Yeah, they could take

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00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: a page from the XFL. Have reporters interview players on

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Speaker 1: the sidelines right after big plays, get real time reactions.

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00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: Could be fun. Yeah, But here again is where I

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00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: see pushback from the coaching staff, because I think the

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Speaker 1: last thing a coach or a coordinator is going to

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Speaker 1: want to do is let the receiver that just caught

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Speaker 1: the touchdown pass come over to the sideline guy and

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Speaker 1: explain the route that he ran when he may be

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Speaker 1: needed by the receiver's coach to prepare for the next

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Speaker 1: series when they're on the field and say, hey, you

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Speaker 1: know you're getting You're winning on this double move all

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Speaker 1: the time. Let's change it up and do this on

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Speaker 1: the next series. Blah blah blah blah blah. They don't

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Speaker 1: want him waste in five minutes to come out of

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Speaker 1: a commercial break and have him on standby to talk

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Speaker 1: to a sideline reporter for two minutes about what just happened.

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Speaker 1: They're worried about what's going to happen next, and that

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Speaker 1: coach might need that guy right and that's easy enough

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00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: to work around. But I think too that sounds to me, Brownie,

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Speaker 1: like a little bit of a fast reaction from a

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00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: league that, in our current social climate we know doesn't

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00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: move very fast. I think that's way too big an ask,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I think that's too revolutionary

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Speaker 1: because the XFL kind of takes a page out of

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Speaker 1: the wrestling handbook, knowing that Vince McMahon was running it,

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Speaker 1: and he's all about constant player access, and so I

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Speaker 1: don't know if the NFL would be ready to take

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Speaker 1: this this level of a leap, because you're not going

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Speaker 1: from it's halftime guys going to locker room, grabbing somebody

851
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: for literally two questions, and then get somebody coming out

852
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: of the locker room after halftime two or three questions,

853
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 1: and that is it until you get to the end

854
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: of the game. That's how the NFL is currently constructed.

855
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: You're gonna ramp that up to every time a big

856
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: play happens. Coaches are gonna lose their hair over that one.

857
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: I don't think that one being all that realistic. And

858
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this too, players aren't all that into

859
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: doing it either, and they don't want to be bothered

860
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: because once it's easy enough in a preseason game game

861
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: right in the preseason game, in the second half, when

862
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: the guy's got his pads off, that's a little bit

863
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,919
Speaker 1: different story. But when a guy's got to go back

864
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: in the field and do it for me as a player,

865
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: I know that I would not have wanted to be bothered.

866
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 1: And I was probably one of the most media friendly guys.

867
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: I mean, I had my own TV show and I'm

868
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 1: doing this for a living now. I mean, I had

869
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: no problem with the media. Even I would have been like,

870
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: no thanks. You know, you just be hard to find

871
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: a guy to cooperate with that, I think, maybe not,

872
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: maybe not. This one from right from our friend the

873
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: media Bologists from w IVB TV Channel four. From Andrew

874
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: BEAGLINI A, B and C. Except now this is an

875
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: answer to our twitter poll ABC except A should be

876
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: stuffed animals squeaks seventy one thousand stuffed animals, um doing

877
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: the squeaky thing. That's pretty interesting. Instead of with im

878
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: pump in the crowd noise of the stuffed animal. I'm

879
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: pretty sure that's not gonna happen. Pretty funny, though I

880
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: appreciate the response here from Andrew. But I'm just gonna

881
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: say this right now. I had an aunt and an

882
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: uncle who every year would send me for Christmas the

883
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: loudest possible toy they could find on the market, just

884
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: to annoy the hell out of my parents, knowing that

885
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: I would be using this part like whether it was

886
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: the police car they could find that or something like

887
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: that drup set police car with the loudest iron you

888
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: could imagine, you know, whatever it was. And so I'm

889
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: just picturing seventy one thousand stuffed animals squeaking, and the

890
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: level of annoyance might get people to turn the television channel.

891
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: The problem is this, Who's gonna squeeze the animals to

892
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: make him squeak? Well, yeah, there you go. So you've

893
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: already solved the problem unless they have, you know, animatronic animals,

894
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: and who knows the costs involved there? Right? Yeah, this

895
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: from Drew, and this is when we were just talking

896
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: about enjoyed hearing coaches and players during XFL season. Some

897
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: games with no fans might also act as a new

898
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,720
Speaker 1: data point as to how influential a loud home crowd

899
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: can be. A little silver lining is just trying to

900
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: keep positive, Yeah, I wouldn't add to the analytics and

901
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: as a control group of a game happening with no fans,

902
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: what's the game? And again, so people understand this, when

903
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: we're talking about pumping in crowd noise, we're talking about

904
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: pumping it in on the broadcast only not in the stadium.

905
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 1: So even though it sounds like a real game at home,

906
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: for the players actually playing the game, that will essentially

907
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: be no home field advantage from a noise standpoint, right,

908
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 1: But there also will not be a road disadvantage. Correct

909
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: I had, So that's there's that too, Steve Tasker, Chris Brown.

910
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: We're here till three o'clock. Coming up right after the

911
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: break U NFL writer USA Today Sports Doug Ferrar. He's

912
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: also the author of the book The Genius of Desperation.

913
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: Coming up right after they breaked. One Bills Live, presented

914
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: by Kalid to Health. This is Buffalo Bill's grading. Oh

915
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: Great time by Steve Clasper. Good tous dome, tous downs

916
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: dover time. Welcome to one Bills Live here in the

917
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: two o'clock hour, or please to be joined on the

918
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 1: line by NFL writer USA Today Sports and also the

919
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 1: author of a book called The genius of desperation. Doug Ferrar. Doug,

920
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on with a Steve Tasker Chris Brown

921
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. How are you doing good? Always a pleasure, guys.

922
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: How are you appreciate it? Are you doing okay? And

923
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: we always ask all our guests and then they come on,

924
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: how's you and your family doing during the pandemic? Are

925
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: you holding up? Okay? Yeah, we're doing good. We're we're

926
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 1: in Seattle, Washington State, and our governor has thinks we've

927
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: been very cautious throughout this process. So we're trying our

928
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: best to flatten the curve and being careful and wearing

929
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 1: masks everywhere, and yeah we're holding up. Okay. Do you

930
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: think what's what's the public what's the public perception? Doug?

931
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: Is he doing it the right way? As are the

932
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: people like behind him? Are they? You know, everybody gets

933
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: criticized for it. Certainly all of our governmental leaders get

934
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: some criticism. How's he being hand how's his handling of

935
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: the pandemic been received? I think most people who are

936
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: looking at it in an adult fashion are thankful. You know,

937
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: we have the thing about and I don't know how,

938
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:00,919
Speaker 1: I don't know why don't know how New York games,

939
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: but Washington State there's kind of the west side of

940
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: the state and the east side of the state, and

941
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: the closer you get to the Pacific Coast and the

942
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: more liberal it teends to be. So there's kind of

943
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: a there's kind of a break over the Cashcade Mountains

944
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: where things get interesting to the right side. I think

945
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: for the most part, people are you know, people are frustrated.

946
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: Sometimes they would like him to go to Phase two

947
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: or phase three before. Jay Insley, as our governor, would

948
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: like to. But we look at other states who have

949
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: gone too quickly to those phases and what happens and

950
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: they have to kind of back off, and you get

951
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: these unfortunate disasters. So you know, we're doing the best

952
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: we can. How are you, guys? We're doing good. I

953
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: mean we're hanging in there. We're still working remotely and

954
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: we're into phase two, just into phase two. Are about

955
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 1: halfway through phase two hopefully here in New York. We

956
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: are flattening the curb and things are on the way down.

957
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: We're appreciate you having you on. Doug Ferraur, NFL writer

958
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: for USA Today Sports to ask you as well lately

959
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 1: about the anticipation of the season starting with fans, no fans,

960
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: with the anthem that may or may not be protested

961
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,280
Speaker 1: peacefully by players. What are your thoughts at this stage

962
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: of what the NFL season might look like when it begins. Well, gosh,

963
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: I think for a number of reasons, it is an

964
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: unpreced NFL season coming up. I think it's likely, at

965
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: least to start that there will not be fans, and

966
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: it's going to be complicated enough to get the teams

967
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 1: together and all the you know, the team staffs, various

968
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: broadcasting entities, the officials and all that. You know. You

969
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: guys notice it takes a few thousand people just to

970
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: make an NFL game work from a television standpoint. Although

971
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 1: there is the precedent of uh, you know, cover the

972
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: last nine Super Bowls and basically one team takes one

973
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,439
Speaker 1: hotel one, you know, the other team takes another. People

974
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: are kind of shocked up wherever they are. The NFL

975
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: has you know, logistically taken care of that for a

976
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: long time. So I think that part of it's easy.

977
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:13,720
Speaker 1: It's determining, you know, do we let in ten percent,

978
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: twenty percent, fifty percent things like that? You know, right now,

979
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: That's the easy part, as weird as that sounds, because

980
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: the hard part is the NFL has to now deal

981
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: with an absolutely unprecedented level of social activism from its players.

982
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: And I don't care what the NFL wants to do,

983
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: it is not going to stick the genie back in

984
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: the bottle. I mean, right now, there are several members

985
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: of the Houston Texans organizations who are at George Floyd's funeral.

986
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: That's that's happening as we speak. That would not have

987
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: happened five years ago, that would not have happened one

988
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: year ago. There's something about this, And I don't know

989
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: whether it's just the George Floyd, whether George Floyd's dea

990
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: pushed people over the edge, it was the companies to

991
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: that in the pandemic, and you know, various things happening

992
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: in sequence that causes what I believe was a necessary

993
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: powder keg. But people are speaking up now. NFL players

994
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: are speaking up now. I heard Trey Boston of the

995
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: Panthers speaking about how Jerry Richardson, the Panthers owner, told

996
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: him not to protest in twenty sixteen. Trey Boston wanted

997
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: to Trey Boston is one of the best cover safeties

998
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 1: in the NFL over the last five years, and he's

999
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 1: not four different teams. He went from Carolina to the Chargers,

1000
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 1: to the Cardinals, and then back to Carolina under new ownership.

1001
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: And I kept wondering, you know, why is Trey Boston

1002
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 1: one of the best decred safeties in the NFL that

1003
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: kind of position, that the importance of that position, Why

1004
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: does he keep switching teams? And when you get that

1005
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: he wanted to protest and his owner and wanted to

1006
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: his team's owner and wanted to you start to wonder.

1007
00:55:56,360 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: There is the Caepinet question. There is you know, from

1008
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 1: from rookieas to veterans. Now players have decided that you know,

1009
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: we're not we're going to say what we want about

1010
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 1: police violence. We're going to say what we want about

1011
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: the social political things that are in our hearts. And

1012
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 1: it's sort of banned the consequences, which is a really

1013
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: interesting flip from you know, you talked to players throughout

1014
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: the Kaepernick thing, and whether you think he was blackballed

1015
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: or not, you talked to players, and you know, I've

1016
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: had more than one player to tell me I would

1017
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: love to get out there, but I can't because I

1018
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: saw what happened to him. Now it's just in the

1019
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 1: last two or three weeks. You know, I'm sure you

1020
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: guys would agree. The transformation to players with voices and

1021
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: the courage to use them has been absolutely stunning. So

1022
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: that to me is that's the other aspect of you know,

1023
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 1: is the NFL just going to say, you know what,

1024
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: do whatever you want, Neil, don't, we don't care, Or

1025
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: is the NFL going to try and regulated. I don't know,

1026
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 1: but as I said, there's no putting the genie back

1027
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: in the bottle. This is the way it's going to be,

1028
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: and in my opinion's long overdue. Well yeah, and that

1029
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,280
Speaker 1: was only confirmed when Roger Goodell, in his video statement

1030
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: all but gave the green light, telling them to peacefully

1031
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: protest whenever they wanted and however they wanted via their

1032
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: platform in the NFL. My question to you is you see,

1033
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: and you're already hearing from various news outlets that the

1034
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: league is already working closely with the players Association on

1035
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: developing an anthem strategy for the upcoming twenty twenty season.

1036
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: That may all be well and good, but I envisioned this, Doug,

1037
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: and you could tell me if you agree or disagree.

1038
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: But with this green light now from the commissioner of

1039
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: the league, I think some players are going to get

1040
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: even more creative with their peaceful protests that go beyond

1041
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: the anthem. What do you think of that? Well, the

1042
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: interesting thing about Goodell's statement is it was people videographers

1043
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: and social media directors in the league who went to

1044
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: the players for that remarkable video where all you know,

1045
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: Marquee players, Patrick Mahomes all these other guys were saying,

1046
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: I am George Floyd. What if I was George Floyd?

1047
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: And it was people you know, the call is coming

1048
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: from inside the house at that point and that, and

1049
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: then they went to Goodell and said, look, we have

1050
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: done this. We can stay silent no more. So it's

1051
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: not just the players, it's people in the NFL offices,

1052
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: people who you know, people who were in fear of

1053
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: losing their jobs and did it anyway, so you have

1054
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: these remarkable statements of professional courage. The NFL can try

1055
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 1: and strategize this and control it all they want. I

1056
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: just think we're passed that. I think the players have

1057
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: to be allowed to do to represent themselves. And you know,

1058
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: as long as it's not obscene, it's not you know,

1059
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: it's not violent, it's not whatever. Those are the obvious caveats.

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Speaker 1: But as long as you know, whether it's Colin Kaefnick,

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00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: Michael Bennet, Chris Long, Eric Read, I mean a lot

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00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: of guys, why of players protested And I think the

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00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 1: NFL in this case should back off, and you know,

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00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: if there are things to be dealt with, If you know,

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00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: if one idiot is throwing the middle finger around, then

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00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: you deal with that in a case by case basis.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to happen. I think players,

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00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: I mean, the way players have spoken in the last

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00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: few weeks, it's they understand that they're you know, kind

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00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: of at the intersection or something really remarkable and really unprecedented.

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00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: I think the NFL needs to back off and trust

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00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: the person the sense of personal responsibility of its players

1073
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 1: to do what's right. We're talking with Doug fer Our,

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00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: NFL writer for USA Today Sports, also one of the

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00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: head coaches of the National Football League. Anthony Lynn has

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00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 1: become come out and kind of been a lead voice.

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00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: Do you think it changes the impact? And you also

1078
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: wrote an article about does it change the impact when

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01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: guys at the higher level of NFL saying head coaches

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01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: rather than players, and also guys like Aaron Rodgers, star

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01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 1: players who are white stepping up and saying, yeah, these

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01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 1: guys are right. It isn't unjust. I'm with these guys.

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Speaker 1: I've seen it. I've I've heard their stories. When guys

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Speaker 1: like aunt it seems to be a different level than

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01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: just the rank and file of the NFL. When you've

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Speaker 1: got head coaches and also star guys like like Aaron

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01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: Rodgers saying stuff, how does that change the impact? Right?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I have compared Colin Kaepernick to Kurt Flood.

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Speaker 1: If people don't know who Kurt Flood is, he is

1090
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: Saint Louis Cardinals outfielder was traded to the Phillies in

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01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: the late sixties, back when there was no free agency.

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01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: Baseball was under what was called the reserve clause. You

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01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: can just resign a guy year after year after year,

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01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 1: and Steve, I believe you were in the NFL both

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01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: pre and post free agency. That's right. Um, so, so

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01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: you know the importance of what he did. Kurt Flood

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01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 1: basically sacrificed his career so players after him could make

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01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 1: trillions of dollars and what Kurt Flood said in his

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01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 1: Supreme Court cases. He might have won had any of

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01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: the players in baseball at that time stood up with

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01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 1: him at that Supreme Court hearing. There was an ex owner,

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01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: Bill Veck and Jackie Robinson smoke on his behalf. But

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01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 1: the current players, you know, the Johnny Benches and Pete

1104
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: Roses and Willie Stargils and whoever, didn't speak up. They

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01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: were all too afraid of what would happen to them

1106
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 1: as what happened to Flood, as what happened to Kaepernick.

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01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 1: So it is truly, and I've written about this as well,

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01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 1: it is remarkable. It is important that prominent white quarterbacks

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01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: both the professional and college level, because I know Trevor

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01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:46,479
Speaker 1: Lawrence from Clemson. You know, Joe Burrow is the number

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01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: one overall pick in the highs and trophy winner Lawrence

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01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: is the ads on favorite to be both next year.

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01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: The fact that both of these guys are spoken up,

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01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: that Aaron Rodgers, it is a big deal. As far

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01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: as coaches speaking up, I think it will make a

1116
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: lot more difference if there are more than three black

1117
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 1: coaches in the NFL. It's like nine point four percent

1118
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: there are three black coaches and the four coaches of color.

1119
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 1: That's a bit of an embarrassment. I know the NFL

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01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: is trying to address it. You know, Anthony Lynn has

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01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: spoken up about and Anton Lynn had a fascinating story

1122
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: where he got pulled over on a Friday before a

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Speaker 1: game against the Ravens and I don't know whether it

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01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: was regular season or playoff in twenty eighteen, and his

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01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 1: fear was, this guy pulled me over on a Friday,

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01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 1: and I can't get a lawyer, I can't coach my

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01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 1: team on Sunday. I mean, think about that, Think about

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Speaker 1: white coaches don't have to worry about that stuff. So

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01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: for anty Lynna to speak out and to share his

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01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: experience again, I just don't think these statements would have

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01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 1: been made even six months ago. I think we're looking

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01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 1: at a true paradigm shift in how people in the

1133
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 1: NFL are speaking out and how people who mean not

1134
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: to agree with them are just gonna kind of have

1135
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: to give him a berth and let him go because

1136
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: it's not going to stop. We also saw a piece

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01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: you're recently put together on Josh Allen his rushing touchdown stats.

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01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: You know, for everybody in Buffalo. They know he's got

1139
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: seventeen rushing touchdowns in his first couple of seasons, which

1140
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 1: you know isn't far behind Cam Newton, who I think

1141
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 1: has the quarterback mark in his first two NFL seasons

1142
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: at twenty two. And you know, you got a six five,

1143
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty seven pound guy coming at you

1144
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 1: when you have four or five receivers out in a route,

1145
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 1: that's going to be a headache. It's not just you know,

1146
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 1: short yardage, even though he's really good at that. So

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01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: I just wonder do you see or envision that continuing,

1148
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 1: because yes, there's always a balance you have to strike

1149
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: so you don't expose your quarterback to too many hits.

1150
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 1: But at the same time, he is an unquestioned weapon

1151
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 1: in that area of his game. Sure, he actually had

1152
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: more Russian touchdowns in his first two seasons. Another first

1153
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 1: round pick of the Buffalo Bills, the guy named Marshall,

1154
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 1: should be appruveman. Yeah, more more Russian touchdowns in his

1155
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 1: first two seasons is Shan Alexander Niche, Todd Gurley, Dwayne Thomas,

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01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 1: Marshall had shut Foreman, Franko Harrison, Mary Molly. That's pretty crazy. Um.

1157
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 1: It is a big part of their offense, of course, UM.

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01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: And it's you know, it's it's a lot of designed runs. Um.

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01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 1: And the player I would most compare Allen too as

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01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: a runner is Kem Newton. You know, similar six five two,

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01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 1: that same kind of build, and they will run a

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Speaker 1: ton of zone red Um. He will decide to run

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01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 1: off of RPOs. They will run. They'll run designed they

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01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 1: don't run just designed runs with him, They'll run like sweeps,

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01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 1: they'll run power sweeps. You guys have seen this and

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01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: I'll watch it. I was watching a lot of tape

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01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: that the stat of the Day piece I wrote, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, they are treating him as their primary

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01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 1: running back. And you know, they had Frank or they

1170
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 1: had Singletary last year, but really, especially in the red zone,

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01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: their primary back was Josh Allen. And that's just how

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01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: they went about it. And you know, from a production perspective,

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01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 1: it certainly seemed to work. There does seem to be

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01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 1: a new balance in the NFL about how much your

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01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 1: quarterback should run and if he's capable of it, how

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01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,439
Speaker 1: much should you maximize it? And the extreme is, of course,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, is Lamar Jackson where their offense used

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01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 1: him as a running back in compliment to their whole

1179
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: running game the misdirection using his speed and athleticism. Josh

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01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,919
Speaker 1: Allen is probably somewhere in the middle, and Philip Rivers

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01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 1: is at the other end of it, right or he

1182
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 1: stands like a statue and he can't. He can barely

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01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: shuffle away from the pressure. So where do you think?

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01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: And I guess a lot of it because it's a

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01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 1: team game, has to do with the team around each

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01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: of those guys. But where do you think the optimal

1187
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 1: balance lies? If you've got a guy that is all

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01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: of it, where does the balance come from? Or how

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01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 1: do you set a prototypical quarterback in the NFL? Now?

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01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 1: Is there one? So the good question, I think the

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01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 1: prototypical quarterback in the NFL now there are several. And

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01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 1: the interesting thing is there are several different kinds of

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01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 1: African American quarterbacks on top of any efficiency list right now.

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01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 1: If you were to, you know, on the one side,

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01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 1: as I said, I would compare Josh Ellen to a

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01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 1: Can Newton type, bigger guy. The obvious count for Lamar

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01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 1: Jackson is Michael Vick because once he gets going, you're

1198
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 1: just not going to catch him. Zick was never, to

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01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 1: my knowledge, hurt as a runner to any extreme degree.

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01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is, we're going a ton. You've never missed

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01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 1: a game. He's had ankle stuff and risk stuff or whatever,

1202
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 1: but he's never missed a game. He's doing that since

1203
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 1: two thousand twelve. If you look at Cam Newton's injuries

1204
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: over the last few years, most of them were as

1205
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: an in pocket or escaping the pocket quarterback, where the

1206
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 1: design of the play was for him to be in

1207
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 1: the pocket, and for various reasons he just got tumbled.

1208
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 1: And with mobile quarterbacks you don't have as many rushing

1209
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 1: the patching plays because you kind of give the defense

1210
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt whether the guy's running or not.

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01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 1: But a lot of times Cam would just get his

1212
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 1: butt kick in the pocket. It wasn't when he was

1213
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 1: running around. I think people go back and look at

1214
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 1: when Helodi Nodded just deposited all eight hundred pounds of

1215
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 1: the self on Robert Griffin. That kind of ended Griffin's

1216
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 1: career as a premier starter. But for the most part,

1217
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 1: mobile quarterbacks, I mean, they get hurt as runners a

1218
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 1: lot less than they think and there are multiple reasons

1219
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 1: for that. You know, they know how to slide, they

1220
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 1: know how to avoid the big hits. You'll see Russell

1221
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 1: Wilson running out of bounds or ducking. And Russell's also

1222
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 1: built like Warrick Duck. He's still like a jail batum

1223
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 1: with Lamar. You know, this is a this is a

1224
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 1: Greg Roman offense. And of course Greg you know, designed

1225
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: the offense in Buffalo for a while to Tyron Taylor

1226
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl um. But really where he learned

1227
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 1: the offense that you're seeing in Baltimore is with with

1228
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick inn San Francisco, and he would go and

1229
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 1: talk to Chris alt Collins college coach at Nevada and say,

1230
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 1: you know, how do you use this pistol runs sort

1231
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 1: of zone read? And that's when the RPO was coming

1232
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 1: into the NFL as well. So there are multiple different

1233
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 1: kinds of mobile quarterbacks. And I think if you look

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01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 1: at you know, if you look to look at injury

1235
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 1: data and actually look at the plays, I mean, I

1236
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: don't see Josh Allen being any more in danger of

1237
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 1: getting hurt than save Zach Moss. You know, because they

1238
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,679
Speaker 1: they're going to run the offenses they're going to run

1239
01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:01,520
Speaker 1: um and when it works as it does in Baltimore,

1240
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 1: as it does in Buffalo, you know, you've got offensive

1241
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 1: coordinators who have designed certain types of runs for the quarterbacks,

1242
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 1: as you said in the grand Scheme of the offense,

1243
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 1: and that's different than just a guy running around and

1244
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 1: scrambling and whatever. You mentioned Zach Moss and I know

1245
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 1: he was among at least he was mentioned anyway for

1246
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 1: best bets for offensive Rookie of the Year. He's probably

1247
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 1: not the favorite because he's probably going to be, you know,

1248
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 1: a complimentary guy to singletary, But why why does he

1249
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: at least to mention in your estimation. Yeah, he's gonna

1250
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 1: have to steal some touchdowns from Josh Allen if he's

1251
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 1: going to be the rookie of the year, right. Yeah.

1252
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 1: He worked out with Triner and Travel Gains in LA

1253
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 1: before the draft, and I talked to him a little

1254
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 1: bit there, and then I got on the phone with

1255
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 1: him and we watched I did a tape piece of

1256
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 1: Zach a couple months ago, and my comp for him

1257
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 1: is Marsaan Lench. He is a tremendous what I would

1258
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 1: call contact balanced runner. You know, you're not going to

1259
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 1: arm tackle him. You're probably not going to tackle him

1260
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:08,600
Speaker 1: by yourself, no matter how you do it. If you

1261
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 1: get if you square up on Zack Moss with a

1262
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 1: perfect rugby tackle, you're probably going to bounce off of them.

1263
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 1: I mean, he he was the you know, the best

1264
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 1: after contact runner in the NCAA last year, both by

1265
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 1: stats and certainly by tape. And I think where he

1266
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 1: gets underrated. I've heard some Kareem Hunt comparisons on the

1267
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 1: field only, and I think that you know, Marshawn Lynch

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Speaker 1: and you guys watched him, and you're both in Buffalo

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Speaker 1: and cl and certainly Oakland as well. At his peak,

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Speaker 1: Marshall Lynch had that you know, the secondary and tertiary

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Speaker 1: bursts to you know, say ten twenty yards down field.

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Speaker 1: Zack's got a little more wiggle and a little more

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Speaker 1: burst to kind of get that acceleration going. Then people think,

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, it tends to be when a

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Speaker 1: guy can just you know, bull his way through a

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Speaker 1: gang tackle, you think, well, he can't also be you know,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't also have second level speed, And I think

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Speaker 1: that's where his game is underrated. If he stays healthy,

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Speaker 1: you know, and It's funny because people say running backs

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Speaker 1: don't matter, but Sequon Barkley, Alvin Kamaros had really a

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Speaker 1: lot of the rookies of the year have been running

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Speaker 1: backs in recent years. It depends on how they design

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01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 1: their offense. I think as far as talent goes, I

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Speaker 1: think he's got a decent chance. But you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: they they're looking to redesign the running game obviously. Zach's

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Speaker 1: going to be a big part of that, obviously, and

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Speaker 1: we'll just have to see how that goes. Hey, Doug,

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Speaker 1: thanks for coming on with us. I appreciate you. I

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Speaker 1: hope he will be a farewell and the rest of

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Speaker 1: the pandemic. All right, take care, guys. Always a pleasure

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Speaker 1: Doug for our NFL writer for USA Today Sports author

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Speaker 1: the Genius of Desperation, Steve Tasker Chris Brown. Coming back

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Speaker 1: after the bottom of the hour one Bills Live Percenter

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Speaker 1: by Kalida Health. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back,

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Speaker 1: Please add Doug Ferrara on the line with his last segment,

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Speaker 1: had a lot of things to say about Zack Moss,

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Speaker 1: also Josh Allen about what a pain he is and

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Speaker 1: some of the statistical analogies that he brought to the table.

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Speaker 1: He's in some pretty good company, but it's not as

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Speaker 1: a password. It's at a touchdown as a touchdown runner.

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Speaker 1: In his first two years as a pro, what do

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01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 1: you think he'll evolve into Brownie? In best case scenarios?

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01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,600
Speaker 1: And you know what Doug Ferrara said and where the

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01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 1: quarterback positions headed to because it's not the same as

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01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 1: it was once was. I just think he has to

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01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 1: improve his rate of efficiency from a completion percentage standpoint.

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01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 1: I think he's got to make another jump like he

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01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 1: did last year. He went up almost six and a

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01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 1: half percent in completion percentage, So now he's got to

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Speaker 1: go from Joshy a fifty nine percent to sixty two

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01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 1: sixty three percent. I don't think he's ever going to

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Speaker 1: be an Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees high completion rate

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01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: passer at sixty eight to seventy percent. I don't think

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01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 1: that's who he is. I think where you make up

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01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,759
Speaker 1: for that is his ability to make plays off script

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01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 1: and extend plays and be a reactor to the situation

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01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 1: in the game and make a play anyway even when

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Speaker 1: things don't go right. That's the added value that he

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01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 1: brings that he may not be able to give you

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Speaker 1: from a completion percentage standpoint. So I think ideally he's

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01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 1: a sixty three percent passer. He's a seven eight rushing

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01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 1: touchdowns a season guy, and he's throwing for twenty five

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01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 1: to twenty eighty year. And if he can do that,

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Speaker 1: then you're in business. You're going to be contending in

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Speaker 1: the AFC every year. Steve Tasker Chris Brown on One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live. We've also got a twitter question out there,

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01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 1: what should the broadcasters do if there are no fans

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01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 1: in the stands? What should it look like? We gave

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Speaker 1: you a few choices, and you've got a ton of responses. Brownie,

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Speaker 1: why don't you go to the tweet sheet to give

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01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,560
Speaker 1: him some of the responses we've gotten about what the

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Speaker 1: broadcast brought the broadcast should do if there are no

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Speaker 1: fans in the stands. Yeah, this one from Bill's fan.

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Speaker 1: He says, put in Madam's Madden Stadium crowd graphics. So

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Speaker 1: he's playing off the video game and saying, put those

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Speaker 1: crowd graphics in which you know are admittedly and visibly

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Speaker 1: you know, animated, not grab But I mean, I gotta

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Speaker 1: tell you you think about the likenesses that they make

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Speaker 1: of the coaches on the sideline for Madden, Like, my

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01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 1: son usually plays with the bills on his Xbox, and

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01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 1: the coach McDermott figure is pretty close. He's pretty close

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Speaker 1: to looking like him. Um, and some of the other

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Speaker 1: coaches look pretty pretty realistic. So could they duplicate that

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01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 1: with with uh kind of funny to kind of use.

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01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it's an NFL partner, so you know, why

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01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:04,720
Speaker 1: not try to just put some make it like mad

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01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 1: and just put those in there like they do in

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Speaker 1: the video game. Yeah, and that's one of the choices.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can put the pump in crowd noise,

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01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 1: you can fill the seats with stuffed animals or cardboard

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01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:16,559
Speaker 1: cutouts or digital fans like we're talking about, or mike

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01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 1: up the players. Sixty percent or fifty eight percent of

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01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 1: the people who respond and say they want to hear

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Speaker 1: the players, they want to see the players miked up,

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01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 1: and they want to hear what the game sounds like

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Speaker 1: inside the lines, not outside the lines in the stands.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people want to do that because I

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Speaker 1: think Brownie, I think they think it will make the

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01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 1: more you can put people inside the helmet. I think

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Speaker 1: the better they like it, they want more of that.

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Speaker 1: And that's where you and I have said earlier in

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Speaker 1: the in this show, that's where you get started to

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01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 1: get pushed back from football people in the league, not

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Speaker 1: just which executives and broadcasters, which is what Jack is saying.

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Speaker 1: In the very next item here on the tweet sheet,

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Speaker 1: he says, mike up the players and live with the consequences.

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Speaker 1: I love the hits and trash talk. Sure there will

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01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 1: be some expletives flying, but we're at a point where

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Speaker 1: some bad language on live TV is almost expected. Most

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Speaker 1: adults can handle it. Tell your kids not to repeat it.

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Speaker 1: It's a whole new level of in game access. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: it is true. And I was thinking this too earlier.

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Speaker 1: I said this earlier in a couple of shows earlier

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Speaker 1: this week and maybe last week, that they could, as

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Speaker 1: you said, Brownie, in some of the different platforms over

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Speaker 1: on ESPN, they'll give you different angles of camera, give

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Speaker 1: you different type of broadcast fundamentally, like there'll be a

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Speaker 1: broadcast centered around maybe the gambling aspect of where they've

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Speaker 1: got odds and prop bets and percentages, and they've got

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Speaker 1: one where it's a traditional broadcast, and they've got another

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01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:40,759
Speaker 1: one that is still another option of different camera angles

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01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 1: that you can go to. I think that, to me

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01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 1: is something that needs that will be addressed. I think

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Speaker 1: that's and you could do it with the language thing

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01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 1: too uncensored right exactly, unfiltered PG and then g rated.

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Speaker 1: You can pick the one the broadcast of your choice,

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Speaker 1: depending on who you want to be able to hear

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01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 1: your broadcast in your own house. I mean, they did

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Speaker 1: that for the Michael Jordan series. You know, they had

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Speaker 1: the uncensored version on ESPN and then they had the

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Speaker 1: bleeped out version on ESPN two. So they that for

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Speaker 1: the documentary. So I suppose tougher to do that live

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Speaker 1: for a game. Well, yeah, live, because right, you got

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01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 1: delay and somebody has a chance to hit the button

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01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 1: to dump it like they do on our show. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, Steve Tasker, Chris Brown, we're here till three o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Coming up in the at the two o'clock hour, we've

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Speaker 1: got Eric Wood, the Bills radio color analysts, played nine

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Speaker 1: season in the National Football League. He's coming on. Also,

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Speaker 1: our tweet sheet that we've been reading off off of

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Speaker 1: has been brought to you by Corgan Moving Systems, the

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Speaker 1: official equipment moving people of the Buffalo Bills. A lot

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01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 1: of stuff going on, Brownie, and not for nothing. But

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Speaker 1: until we until we find out, you know, they'll be

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Speaker 1: able to do this in preseason games, right, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to I don't think, like, for instance, were

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Speaker 1: trying to do as good a job as you can

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01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 1: for a preseason football game, But you don't really lay

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Speaker 1: out the kind of budget for a preseason game that

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Speaker 1: you would for a network television broadcast, right. I mean,

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01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 1: we've got the personnel and the manpower we got to have.

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Speaker 1: We could have five sideline reporters and we have five

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Speaker 1: guys in the booth. That's not the issue. But it's

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Speaker 1: the technical side of it that becomes the problem. And

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Speaker 1: that's kind of what we're talking about here. If there's

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Speaker 1: not going to be fans in the stands, how many

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Speaker 1: different options are going to give people at home to watch?

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Speaker 1: And what' they're gonna look like? And what are you

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Speaker 1: gonna pipe in? Yeah? And I kind of like this

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Speaker 1: thought too, because you know, I think to a certain extent, Steve,

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Speaker 1: the networks don't want to avoid the fans. The fans

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Speaker 1: are what provide an emotional element to the game, and

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Speaker 1: if they can't be in the stands, I think they're

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Speaker 1: gonna try to find some way to incorporate them in.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's you know, pumping in the crowd noises we've discussed,

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Speaker 1: or this suggestion from Devin. How about videos of fans

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Speaker 1: cheering from home or at the backer bars being played

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01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 1: on the JumboTron. When the Bills score, they play fans

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01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 1: saying shout they let the team still get fired up.

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Speaker 1: So Devon's looking at it from a player perspective, knowing

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01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 1: that crowd noise would only be played over the broadcast

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01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 1: system and not in the stadium. This guy's suggesting get

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Speaker 1: a live feed from you know, the Bill's backers bar

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Speaker 1: in in Denver or New York City and beam it

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Speaker 1: back to the JumboTron so when the Bill score a touchdown,

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Speaker 1: they can see some of their fans celebrating, albeit not

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Speaker 1: directly in the stadium. Where that's assuming that there are

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Speaker 1: Bill's backers bars that are allowed to be full and

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Speaker 1: have people crammed into him for a worthy shot. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's not getting if you got twenty five capacity in

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01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:53,600
Speaker 1: the stadium, why would you want to break away for

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Speaker 1: a twenty five percent capacity in a bar, you know, well, yeah, no,

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01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 1: but I think he's assumed no fans, right if there's

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Speaker 1: no fan. But even if there's no fans, is there

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01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 1: gonna be a bar somewhere where you can find that

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01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 1: there are no restrictions people are packed in there, like

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Speaker 1: you might have to pipe it in live from the UK, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: from tech from the UK, or someplace in another country,

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01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 1: another part of the world where they are not socially distancing,

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01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 1: where they can pack in and that it is going

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Speaker 1: to have people there. You don't want to go to

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Speaker 1: a Bill's Backers bar in Barbados and there's like three

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01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 1: people in there in flip flops, right, So you know,

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Speaker 1: I would like to think they would prepare a little

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01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 1: bit better than that. You know he like to But

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Speaker 1: are you dialing up this week? Spend the wheel? All right?

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01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:44,560
Speaker 1: We're got we got three guys there exactly because I

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01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 1: do like seeing people. I do like seeing that reaction

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01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 1: shot in a crowd where people are there together away

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Speaker 1: from it, they're watching it together as a group. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, you you've seen shots of the seven one

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01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:57,720
Speaker 1: six bar in pub. You know downtown when they get

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01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 1: when the Sabers or Bills still happen, it's awesome. They

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Speaker 1: do it in the finals, like whether it's the NBA

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01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 1: or the NHL or the NFL, they'll show, you know,

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Speaker 1: the team that's on the road, they'll have some shot

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Speaker 1: of their fans. Sometimes some of these clubs, when their

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Speaker 1: team's on the road and the playoffs, they'll have a

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Speaker 1: viewing party at their home stadium and then watch the

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Speaker 1: game there, and then you know, the network will have

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Speaker 1: a camera shot of that crowd going crazy in their

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Speaker 1: home city even though the game's being played in a

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Speaker 1: way venue. So we've seen that before. This might just

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Speaker 1: be taking it to a different level where you're putting

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Speaker 1: it on the It's almost like a reverse when you

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Speaker 1: think about it's Steve. It's you've got players playing in

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01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 1: front of no one, and you're trying to provide them

1478
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 1: with the reaction of their fans because there's no fans

1479
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 1: to see in the stadium, right, Yeah, there's nobody reacting

1480
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 1: to their touchdown, their sixty five yard touchdown bomb that

1481
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 1: they just pick. It's a silent stadium, so they pack,

1482
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:54,560
Speaker 1: you know, they pipe it in so at least they know,

1483
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 1: somebody's watching them right there. Somebody's happy with what you

1484
01:21:57,200 --> 01:22:00,720
Speaker 1: just did there all right exactly, somebody's somebody's watching in

1485
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 1: their loving And that would be kind of cool because, uh,

1486
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:09,799
Speaker 1: you know, as a player, Yeah, because the game happens

1487
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 1: because of the fans. The game happens because there are

1488
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 1: people who will want to see it. The game happens

1489
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 1: because there there's excitement about your team doing something good.

1490
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 1: And so when you do it and you think that

1491
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 1: was pretty good play, did anybody see it? Right? Well?

1492
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 1: What it would be a real yeah? I think players

1493
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 1: would really thirst for that in an empty stadium, and

1494
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 1: that that's the perspective. We could talk about this in

1495
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 1: the next segment because I know we're up against it,

1496
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:37,599
Speaker 1: But Steve, that's a conversation that I think we need

1497
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 1: to have with you. Just have you given it any

1498
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 1: thought as to what it would be like playing with

1499
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:47,680
Speaker 1: no fans there? I mean you probably got to go

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01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 1: back all the way to your Pop Warner days to

1501
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 1: duplicate an empty stadium in any way, shape or form.

1502
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 1: Think about that during the break, if just give it

1503
01:22:57,439 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 1: some thought, Like if if you guys back in the

1504
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 1: day everybody to play in front of no One, how

1505
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 1: weird it might be, and how much you do feed

1506
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 1: off the crow interesting. We will do that. Eric Wood

1507
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:09,840
Speaker 1: coming up at the top of the hour. Tomorrow, We've

1508
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:12,639
Speaker 1: got Neil Reynolds coming on of the Neil Ryns podcast

1509
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:16,560
Speaker 1: as nfl UK from He's also with Sky Sports. He

1510
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 1: did a podcast with Josh Norman. Will ask him about

1511
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 1: that's tomorrow. Coming up on One Bill's Lives, Doe t

1512
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 1: ask er Chris Brown. We're He'll till three. This is

1513
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio presented by Kalida Health and this is

1514
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 1: One Bills Live. Welcome back in one of those lives

1515
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 1: keep tests along with Chris Brown. We've been talking about

1516
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 1: today about what's the broadcasts are gonna look like, or

1517
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 1: what they should look like if there are no fans

1518
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 1: in the stands. You ask me a question right before

1519
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 1: the break, Brownnie, that I hadn't really thought about until

1520
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 1: that conversation, you know, five minutes ago, and it's what

1521
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 1: would the play would it feel like to make a

1522
01:23:56,080 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 1: play in a game that was important and good for

1523
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 1: your team and gave him a chance to win in

1524
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 1: late moments or something spectacular of that nature. What would

1525
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 1: it feel like if there was nobody to cheer, and

1526
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 1: it gave me a pause to think about because you

1527
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:20,679
Speaker 1: wouldn't you'd kind of know, I mean, you know for sure,

1528
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 1: but you'd have to look. The only thing to do

1529
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 1: is turn around and check out what your teammates think.

1530
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 1: You know. Um, I'm just thinking about you blocking a

1531
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 1: punt in a game when the crowd erupts and there's

1532
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 1: no crowd to erupt, Like are you? I mean, you're

1533
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:37,799
Speaker 1: still happy you did something good for your team, Steve,

1534
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 1: but it's not the same, right, No, it's not you.

1535
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 1: You would not get you would not get the pump

1536
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:49,760
Speaker 1: of adrenaline without the crowd. And certainly it's a good plan.

1537
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 1: You'll you'll be smart enough to recognize that the other

1538
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:53,679
Speaker 1: team will know it. It's not like it's a hidden,

1539
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:56,640
Speaker 1: you know, hidden thing. Um. I think one thing it

1540
01:24:56,720 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 1: would that would happen is, you know, there's a be

1541
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 1: some scoreboard watching and check out. I think you'll be

1542
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:04,479
Speaker 1: more in tune with what's going on in the game,

1543
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 1: like on the scoreboard and the clock and all of that,

1544
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 1: and you'll know exactly what's going on. Uh. But think

1545
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 1: about it. There's there's no need for a pa announcer

1546
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 1: right to tell people what's going on. They wouldn't do that.

1547
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 1: Players don't wouldn't be perceived as needing and having a

1548
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 1: guy say hang this third down. Yeah, there's none of

1549
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 1: that going on. There's no let's hear it. You know this,

1550
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 1: here's this bill's defense. You know what I mean. There's

1551
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:30,600
Speaker 1: nobody pumping the crowd. It's third down, right and in

1552
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 1: the big the train horn that they playing, none of

1553
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 1: that's there, um it. It would be Yeah, you're playing

1554
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 1: in front of nobody, you're playing on the in the yard.

1555
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:46,560
Speaker 1: You know, it's uh, it's you against them. And I

1556
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 1: think the thing that would go would be turned way

1557
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 1: up is the interaction between your team verbally and their

1558
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 1: team because you can hear it, you can hear it

1559
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 1: all the better, right. I think it's immensely interesting to

1560
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 1: see what would happen and the conversations that would happen

1561
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 1: between players and you know, offensive players and defenders. When

1562
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:16,920
Speaker 1: an offensive player makes the catch gets up, uh, you know,

1563
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 1: defenders are notoriously quiet when they give up a play, right,

1564
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:22,679
Speaker 1: I mean they just walk away like it don't matter.

1565
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 1: You know, you can you can just you can pict

1566
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 1: yourself like you can't hear what they're saying. You can't

1567
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 1: hear what the guy cheering saying, and you can't hear

1568
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 1: what he's saying if he's saying anything. So that would

1569
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 1: change because all of a sudden, the roar of the

1570
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 1: crowd doesn't drowned out the celebration that's happening one foot

1571
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 1: away from you. You know, as a defender, you turn,

1572
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 1: you just kind of walk away. You gotta walk away

1573
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 1: from it, man, Now that really But you get the

1574
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 1: idea of what self discipline these players have in not saying, hey,

1575
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 1: shut up, you know it was lucky or whatever whatever.

1576
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 1: You know, there's no there's no hiding it. That's amazing

1577
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 1: for me to think about. And you'll be able to

1578
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 1: hear what the opposing coaches might be trying to communicate

1579
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:07,840
Speaker 1: to a player on the field all the better too.

1580
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:11,679
Speaker 1: And you know it may be hand signals, it could

1581
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:16,840
Speaker 1: be code words. But you listen to that enough, by

1582
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:18,880
Speaker 1: the second half of the game, you may you may

1583
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 1: know a little bit more about their communication system and

1584
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 1: what they're discussing. And obviously you have pro scouts that

1585
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 1: are advanced scouting these guys and probably give all that

1586
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 1: to you leading into the week. Anyway, today you may

1587
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 1: be able to put it into practice all the more

1588
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 1: because you're hearing it audibly right before the play. Yeah.

1589
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 1: And I think too that the advanced scouts are upstairs

1590
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 1: in the press box, so they can't hear it unless

1591
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 1: it's pipe the field noises piped into the press box.

1592
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 1: They may not be privy to that as much as

1593
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:49,719
Speaker 1: somebody sitting at home on their couch. And that's pretty

1594
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:52,760
Speaker 1: interesting to think about. You know that they'd have to

1595
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:54,560
Speaker 1: come up with some way to scout it. Just you

1596
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 1: know what, I'm going to scout this game, but I

1597
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 1: want to sit down in row four behind their bench.

1598
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna scout the game from there because I'll be

1599
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 1: I wonder if yeah, yeah, right, that's got to be illegal,

1600
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 1: right or if it's not, that's where you're gonna watch it,

1601
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 1: right or yeah? Or you gotta set up guidelines to

1602
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 1: prevent that, because you know teams will be trying to

1603
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 1: take advantage of that if they can. Could be a

1604
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 1: whole new set of rules and guidelines. Eric would coming

1605
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 1: up right after the break, Steve Tasker, Chris Brown. Tomorrow,

1606
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:25,679
Speaker 1: We're gonna have Neil Reynolds from UK of the NFL

1607
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 1: a UK. He's got a podcast out. He had Josh

1608
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 1: Norman on that podcast. Also tomorrow we might get into

1609
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:33,599
Speaker 1: the State of the Bills. Get back into our positional breakdown.

1610
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about special teams tomorrow in a State

1611
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 1: of the Bills Special Teams. We'll do that tomor as

1612
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:41,560
Speaker 1: well as have Neil Reynolds. But coming up after the

1613
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:44,719
Speaker 1: break because I just said, Eric Wood, NFL radio analyst

1614
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills game day broadcast, Steve Tasker, Chris Brown,

1615
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:50,720
Speaker 1: We're coming back at you. This is Buffalo Bills Radio

1616
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:59,680
Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health. This is One Bills Live. Oh

1617
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 1: what watch Steve Kasper, good tous time to time to time.

1618
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Steve Tasker. Chris Brown

1619
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:24,720
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo and joining us on the line now

1620
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:27,519
Speaker 1: is the Bill's radio color analysts. He's also a nine

1621
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:30,360
Speaker 1: year veteran of the National Football League, exclusively with the

1622
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills after being their first round pick in two

1623
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 1: thousand and nine. Eric Wood on the show, Eric, thanks

1624
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 1: for joining us. It's good to see if we can

1625
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 1: see you on Skype, so it's really going to help

1626
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:42,800
Speaker 1: our conversations stay lively. But you look good, have you

1627
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 1: You're feeling good during the pandemic. The family, everything going

1628
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 1: well down there. Yeah, fortune, we've been able to stay

1629
01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:51,560
Speaker 1: healthy through this time. And um, you know, cut Kentucky's

1630
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:53,720
Speaker 1: a slower state, I think, similar to New York, so

1631
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 1: we're not quite opening up, but we were. We were

1632
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 1: down in Florida last week on a family vacation and

1633
01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 1: it was hard to tell anything was going on down there.

1634
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 1: But you know, we've been blessed to stay healthy through

1635
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:06,240
Speaker 1: this time, and you know, just trying anything we can

1636
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 1: to pour into the community around here around us. Yeah,

1637
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:13,760
Speaker 1: speaking of staying healthy, you know, the NFL puts out

1638
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:17,439
Speaker 1: a nine page protocol to try to keep the players

1639
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 1: healthy when they return to the team facilities as best

1640
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:23,680
Speaker 1: they can anyway. And I mean, I don't know if

1641
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 1: you've had a chance to kind of at least skim

1642
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 1: that people were looking for cliff notes as early as

1643
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:31,840
Speaker 1: yesterday because it was lengthy and it was very specific.

1644
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 1: But Eric, knowing that, you know how coach McDermott likes

1645
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 1: to run his daily operation and all of the particulars

1646
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:45,960
Speaker 1: that are involved in these protocols, how much do you

1647
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:52,680
Speaker 1: anticipate they will disrupt the efficiency in which coach McDermott

1648
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:55,760
Speaker 1: and his staff like to get things done well. I think,

1649
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:58,880
Speaker 1: first and foremost, it's gonna disrupt the location because you

1650
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:02,719
Speaker 1: simply can't keep social distancing practices in the team meeting

1651
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:06,200
Speaker 1: room and even the individual meeting rooms. You know, the

1652
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:10,639
Speaker 1: offensive line has fifteen not small bodies in a room

1653
01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 1: that's not big enough to social distance by any means.

1654
01:31:14,479 --> 01:31:18,719
Speaker 1: So I would imagine you'll see some sort of tents

1655
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 1: assembled outside, which will be perfect in Orchard Park that

1656
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:24,599
Speaker 1: time of year that they're coming back this summer, because

1657
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 1: it will be beautiful out compared to some places where

1658
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:30,799
Speaker 1: they'll be scorching if they don't bring out portable air conditioners.

1659
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:32,439
Speaker 1: But I would imagine there would be some types of

1660
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 1: tent systems because you want to meet as a team.

1661
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:39,599
Speaker 1: Coach McDermott starts every day off with a team meeting.

1662
01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 1: One of my favorite things about Coach McDermott is the

1663
01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:45,960
Speaker 1: rigid rigidity of the schedule. Every day. You know what

1664
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:48,880
Speaker 1: to expect. It's a team meeting to start. He's running

1665
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:52,439
Speaker 1: the show and everyone's assembled, Well, where is that location

1666
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 1: for that? Now that's gonna be tough. And the interesting

1667
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:57,559
Speaker 1: thing is that you get these You got a nine

1668
01:31:57,640 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 1: page protocol. It's a book of protocols that you got

1669
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:06,080
Speaker 1: to follow and it affects everybody coaches, players, staff and

1670
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:09,640
Speaker 1: the implement or people that are going to help them

1671
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:13,440
Speaker 1: do this. Before you can even attack the NFL your playbook.

1672
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:15,959
Speaker 1: As a player, you're gonna have to learn this protocol

1673
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 1: book and so that you know what I mean, it's

1674
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:21,120
Speaker 1: gonna set you further back trying to get trained up

1675
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:24,599
Speaker 1: unless you start having virtual meetings beforehand and say hey, listen,

1676
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:27,280
Speaker 1: when you come back, do this, this and this. You know,

1677
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:32,000
Speaker 1: you got to train your people of how to even

1678
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:34,920
Speaker 1: be in the building, let alone train them to know

1679
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 1: the playbook and how to play their position on the field.

1680
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:41,000
Speaker 1: I mean, there's the interest. Seems like your neck deep

1681
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:46,400
Speaker 1: in little idiosyncrasies that you've got to do to keep

1682
01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:49,400
Speaker 1: healthy or at least keep socially distanced. Now, what a

1683
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:52,680
Speaker 1: pain this is gonna be. Forget about the discomfort of

1684
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 1: being there. Yeah, and to your points, Steve, I've talked

1685
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:58,439
Speaker 1: to a number of national media outlets about how this

1686
01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:01,760
Speaker 1: offseason sets up wealth of the Bills because they have

1687
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:04,280
Speaker 1: so much continuity. You mentioned how much tucker it will

1688
01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:06,760
Speaker 1: be to learn the plays when you're getting shuffled around.

1689
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:11,080
Speaker 1: I look at the workout group size of only fifteen individuals,

1690
01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:13,400
Speaker 1: and I guess the Bills have the luxury of they

1691
01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 1: have the brand new weight room, and then the fieldhouse

1692
01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:19,040
Speaker 1: is attached to that, the grass field is attached to that.

1693
01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 1: So maybe you have maybe that's forty five because they're

1694
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:25,719
Speaker 1: going to be separated, and that would be more similar

1695
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:28,640
Speaker 1: to what we're used to have, the defense going and

1696
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:31,479
Speaker 1: the offense meeting and then flipping it. And so maybe

1697
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:33,600
Speaker 1: that's what they're gonna do. But when I when I

1698
01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:36,880
Speaker 1: originally read fifteen, I'm like, our normal day during the

1699
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:40,560
Speaker 1: off season ota time is really only maybe eight to

1700
01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:43,759
Speaker 1: one ish. If you've got to break into fifteen people groups,

1701
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:46,679
Speaker 1: do you start staggering them? Well, then does the team

1702
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:49,640
Speaker 1: know each other? Do you get the continuity the camaraderie

1703
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:51,720
Speaker 1: that that's the benefit of that time of the year.

1704
01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:54,280
Speaker 1: It's it's it's going to be interesting to see and

1705
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:57,280
Speaker 1: how much that's the efficient. That's the efficiency that we're

1706
01:33:57,320 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 1: talking about here, because even with those fifteen guys they

1707
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:03,880
Speaker 1: set in there, you're only gonna have one strength and

1708
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:06,320
Speaker 1: conditioning coach, So that means any other assistance you have

1709
01:34:06,479 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 1: are not in that weight room with those fifteen guys.

1710
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:11,640
Speaker 1: You got one guy working with those fifteen. And then

1711
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:14,080
Speaker 1: on top of that, every time you use a piece

1712
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:17,920
Speaker 1: of equipment you have to disinfect it before the next

1713
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:21,479
Speaker 1: guy gets on for obvious reasons. So there's all these

1714
01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:24,320
Speaker 1: little extra steps that I think you're just gonna bog

1715
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 1: the day down. And we know that coach is methodical,

1716
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:30,720
Speaker 1: but he also likes to be very efficient. Heck, every

1717
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:33,880
Speaker 1: coach does. But this is gonna I don't want to

1718
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:35,920
Speaker 1: say it's gonna gob up the works, but it's certainly

1719
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:39,040
Speaker 1: gonna slow things down where you're not gonna get guys

1720
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:40,840
Speaker 1: in and out as as quickly as you have in

1721
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:43,960
Speaker 1: the past. You're exactly right, and I can't wait to

1722
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:47,040
Speaker 1: see National Strength Coach of the Year Eric Siano with

1723
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:49,960
Speaker 1: a towel in his hand in a spray bottle, wiping

1724
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:53,720
Speaker 1: down rack guys. But yeah, but the Bills, one of

1725
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:56,479
Speaker 1: the luxuries they do have, which it wasn't the case

1726
01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:58,640
Speaker 1: when I first got to the Bills, is now they

1727
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:01,400
Speaker 1: have so many racks and workout stations that guys can

1728
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:03,800
Speaker 1: literally have their if they only have fifteen guys in

1729
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:07,240
Speaker 1: the lay room, they can be at their own individual spot,

1730
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:08,760
Speaker 1: so they'll be able to go a pretty much a

1731
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:13,800
Speaker 1: full workout without anybody else getting on their actual equipment. Yeah,

1732
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:16,240
Speaker 1: interesting too, you got so you got you get fifteen guys.

1733
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:18,920
Speaker 1: Let's say you can get fifteen guys working out on

1734
01:35:19,120 --> 01:35:22,639
Speaker 1: one field. So you've got two grass practice fields beside

1735
01:35:23,479 --> 01:35:27,759
Speaker 1: beside the field house. You've got another practice field inside

1736
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:31,760
Speaker 1: the field house, and you've got a weight room. So

1737
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:34,640
Speaker 1: there's two practice there's three full fields. You got the

1738
01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:37,519
Speaker 1: stadium field. That's a fourth field. You've got the weight room,

1739
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:40,439
Speaker 1: and then you've got like meeting rooms. So if you

1740
01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:43,760
Speaker 1: have fifteen guys in each of those, that's sixth thing.

1741
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:48,120
Speaker 1: That's six that's that's almost your whole roster of broken

1742
01:35:48,160 --> 01:35:50,960
Speaker 1: down into fifteen things. You have fifteen group of fifteen

1743
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,320
Speaker 1: on each field, and then if you rotated them, or

1744
01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 1: if you didn't rotate them, one of them is going

1745
01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:57,599
Speaker 1: to be in the weight room, and then the other

1746
01:35:57,680 --> 01:36:00,479
Speaker 1: one is going to be in meeting rooms. Right, so

1747
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:04,320
Speaker 1: you could have fifteen guys in the meeting room doing right,

1748
01:36:04,439 --> 01:36:08,200
Speaker 1: So you can have them all there at once and

1749
01:36:08,439 --> 01:36:11,560
Speaker 1: spraced out and working out at the same time. But

1750
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:14,760
Speaker 1: here's the problem. What do you do then? You know,

1751
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:16,800
Speaker 1: where do they all go? You can't all shower it

1752
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 1: at the same time, you can't, right, you can you

1753
01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:24,840
Speaker 1: you can't rotate because you gotta disinfect four fields between, yeah,

1754
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:28,719
Speaker 1: and between. So now you don't have to disinfect grass.

1755
01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:31,559
Speaker 1: So they could all go out on the field four fields,

1756
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:35,080
Speaker 1: but you have feld I saw that in there, right,

1757
01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:37,080
Speaker 1: So you could do the turf field, you could do

1758
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:40,360
Speaker 1: the grass fields, you could do the stadium field, you

1759
01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:45,000
Speaker 1: could do the field house, and you could do probably

1760
01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:47,760
Speaker 1: the youth football field out on the back side of

1761
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:49,920
Speaker 1: the stadium back in the you know, right, you know

1762
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:51,600
Speaker 1: what I mean. So you've got enough fields where you

1763
01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:54,559
Speaker 1: could have fifteen guys doing almost full saying all at

1764
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:56,599
Speaker 1: the same time. But you don't gain anything by having

1765
01:36:56,640 --> 01:36:58,720
Speaker 1: them there at the same time because they can't even

1766
01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:00,640
Speaker 1: be in the same room, you know. And then you

1767
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:04,720
Speaker 1: got to put them somewhere to have meetings in a

1768
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:08,439
Speaker 1: place where you can show overheads. And that's the question, Steve,

1769
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:11,040
Speaker 1: are how close are they gonna get to real football?

1770
01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:12,799
Speaker 1: And how much is it going to hurt these teams

1771
01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:15,680
Speaker 1: in terms of their preparations for the season. I mean,

1772
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 1: we don't We don't really know that yet. I guess

1773
01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:21,559
Speaker 1: if you have to do it in small groups. I mean, Eric,

1774
01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:22,960
Speaker 1: we don't know what we're going to see. We might

1775
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:27,160
Speaker 1: see offense out there without a defense, so as not

1776
01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:30,160
Speaker 1: to create additional exposure between the two different sides of

1777
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 1: the ball, you can't do that either. Yeah, you don't

1778
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:36,240
Speaker 1: want them at this point, you know, with hand to

1779
01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:39,360
Speaker 1: hand contact and all that. So, yeah, I would assume

1780
01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:41,280
Speaker 1: there'd be a good amount of walkthroughs. You know, the

1781
01:37:41,400 --> 01:37:44,559
Speaker 1: offensive line can kind of walk through their deal. Let

1782
01:37:44,640 --> 01:37:47,880
Speaker 1: the receivers and quarterbacks throw the ball. You can work

1783
01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:51,160
Speaker 1: on the exchanges with the running backs. They'll get creative

1784
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:55,240
Speaker 1: with what they're giving Josh. From a mental perspective, you know, hey,

1785
01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:58,080
Speaker 1: envision this. You know there's probably gonna be a coach

1786
01:37:58,160 --> 01:38:00,280
Speaker 1: on the other side of the field, you know, maybe

1787
01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:03,240
Speaker 1: showing what the corner will do, so then John Brown

1788
01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:07,000
Speaker 1: can adjust as route off of what the projected coverage

1789
01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 1: they're putting out there is. But it's gonna be interesting.

1790
01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:12,599
Speaker 1: I do know that I'm glad we have such an

1791
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 1: organized organization and staff because they'll make the most of

1792
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:18,600
Speaker 1: this time and they'll get the benefit. But you know

1793
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:21,000
Speaker 1: the benefit of this time being able to evaluate talent.

1794
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:25,719
Speaker 1: It's gonna be really, really hard, and it almost leads

1795
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:28,400
Speaker 1: to the fact of ear leads to the point of

1796
01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:31,880
Speaker 1: maybe it's better to let these guys train on their

1797
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:35,080
Speaker 1: own if they have a good situation, when in years

1798
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 1: past you're dying to get guys back in the building.

1799
01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:40,759
Speaker 1: Now you might like, similar to coach Nagie for the Bears,

1800
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:43,640
Speaker 1: who just canceled the remainder, they're ending their virtual off

1801
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:45,720
Speaker 1: season two weeks early so they can focus on their

1802
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:49,000
Speaker 1: bodies more. And they basically said, hey, we know the system.

1803
01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:52,160
Speaker 1: We're good to go. And maybe there's there's some time

1804
01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:54,439
Speaker 1: where they say, hey, guys, if you can train on

1805
01:38:54,520 --> 01:38:56,800
Speaker 1: your own, you can train effectively. Maybe you're just taking

1806
01:38:56,840 --> 01:39:00,360
Speaker 1: up space in here. I don't know. Yeah, we're talking

1807
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:02,920
Speaker 1: with Eric wood Bill's Radio color Ana. It's not gonna

1808
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:05,400
Speaker 1: ask you this. You were here throughout the nine years

1809
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:09,760
Speaker 1: of your career. How impressive has this culture change been

1810
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 1: Now we're three years into it. Can you give us

1811
01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:15,320
Speaker 1: a kind of a snapshot of before and after? I

1812
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:17,200
Speaker 1: don't know, is an ebb and flow with different head

1813
01:39:17,240 --> 01:39:20,280
Speaker 1: coaches and that kind of thing. But how impressive and

1814
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:22,439
Speaker 1: how vast is the culture change and what does it

1815
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:25,960
Speaker 1: meant to their success? Well, it's tremendous. And I'll start

1816
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:30,120
Speaker 1: with the first and foremost. This team this year expects

1817
01:39:30,160 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 1: to get to the playoffs. They expect to compete for

1818
01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:35,839
Speaker 1: a championship. And that's a credit to making the playoffs

1819
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:38,720
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen and twenty nineteen. That's a credit to

1820
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:43,000
Speaker 1: great leadership from the top, continuity at the top. You know,

1821
01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:47,960
Speaker 1: the sustained success that seems to be in this organization's

1822
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:50,320
Speaker 1: future from what Brandon Bean has done. And I know

1823
01:39:50,439 --> 01:39:54,760
Speaker 1: this is more of a roster building point I'm about

1824
01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:57,000
Speaker 1: to make it maybe not a culture, but he brings

1825
01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:59,320
Speaker 1: in guys with the right for their culture. But what

1826
01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:03,600
Speaker 1: he did for a salary cap standpoint is just absolutely incredible.

1827
01:40:04,280 --> 01:40:06,400
Speaker 1: But each day you walk into the building, you know

1828
01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:10,840
Speaker 1: what's expected of you, you know exactly what. You get

1829
01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:13,719
Speaker 1: a crystal clearer message from coach McDermott every single morning,

1830
01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:15,680
Speaker 1: and that just sets the day up for success. It

1831
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:17,920
Speaker 1: sets everything up for success. And they've brought the right

1832
01:40:17,960 --> 01:40:20,320
Speaker 1: types of guys in here the right coaches, and that

1833
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:23,040
Speaker 1: wasn't immediate for coach McDermott. There was a ton of

1834
01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:25,240
Speaker 1: turnover in that first year or so on the staff

1835
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:28,320
Speaker 1: because when McDermott came over from Carolina, that whole staff

1836
01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:30,840
Speaker 1: didn't get like, oh, this is the first time head coach.

1837
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:33,160
Speaker 1: So he had to go find buddies around the league,

1838
01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:35,519
Speaker 1: guys even you knew along the way to kind of

1839
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:37,559
Speaker 1: come in and fell out the staff. And they've now

1840
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:41,040
Speaker 1: that seems that David established the staff that they're really

1841
01:40:41,120 --> 01:40:43,160
Speaker 1: proud of getting getting kind of set in stone here.

1842
01:40:43,439 --> 01:40:46,440
Speaker 1: But to answer your question, Steve, it's been absolutely incredible

1843
01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:48,680
Speaker 1: and it's been a lot of fun to watch, and

1844
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:52,000
Speaker 1: throughout my tenure, we just had so many head coaches

1845
01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:55,200
Speaker 1: that so many of the guys had great messages and

1846
01:40:55,360 --> 01:40:57,320
Speaker 1: so many of the guys were phenomenal men. I mean,

1847
01:40:57,439 --> 01:41:00,160
Speaker 1: I come under, come in under a Dick drawn like,

1848
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:02,479
Speaker 1: what a what a what a person? What a what

1849
01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:05,400
Speaker 1: a leader? Dick Giron is and then Changelly was great,

1850
01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:08,760
Speaker 1: and then we have grown and then we have Rex

1851
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:10,960
Speaker 1: and it's just like you get so many different messages

1852
01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:14,439
Speaker 1: it's hard to know what to buy into. So Eric,

1853
01:41:14,560 --> 01:41:16,800
Speaker 1: I know, We haven't talked to you since the whole

1854
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:19,920
Speaker 1: thing came down with George Floyd and the reactions to it.

1855
01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:23,280
Speaker 1: But you were a player at the time when the

1856
01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:26,439
Speaker 1: anthem protests started up a few years ago, and so

1857
01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:29,720
Speaker 1: I want you to try to encapsulate what it was

1858
01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:34,040
Speaker 1: like a couple of years ago watching teammates go through

1859
01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:38,840
Speaker 1: that wrestle with that you know whatever, and now look

1860
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:42,240
Speaker 1: at it now and maybe tell me how you feel

1861
01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:45,679
Speaker 1: it might be different in a good way this time

1862
01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:49,280
Speaker 1: to maybe how it was, you know, the iteration of

1863
01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:51,880
Speaker 1: it the first time. Yeah, So when when this all

1864
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:54,839
Speaker 1: started going the first time, credit coach McDermott and the bacculas.

1865
01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:56,920
Speaker 1: They called a team meeting on the Saturday night before

1866
01:41:56,960 --> 01:41:59,280
Speaker 1: our game. I believe it was against the San Francisco

1867
01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:01,840
Speaker 1: forty nine ers at home when Colin Kaepernick was coming

1868
01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:03,400
Speaker 1: into town, but it could have been the week before,

1869
01:42:04,040 --> 01:42:07,160
Speaker 1: and they called a team meeting and basically said, hey,

1870
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:10,000
Speaker 1: let's be unified and what we do as a team.

1871
01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:12,600
Speaker 1: And out of a three hour meeting, you know what

1872
01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:15,320
Speaker 1: came out of it. We're not going to be unified

1873
01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:17,680
Speaker 1: in what we do because someone would say, hey, I'm

1874
01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:20,800
Speaker 1: not comfortable kneeling, and another person would say, I'm going

1875
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:23,640
Speaker 1: to kneel no matter what. And I think that's the

1876
01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:27,080
Speaker 1: great thing about a locker room is we won those games,

1877
01:42:27,840 --> 01:42:33,559
Speaker 1: and although we were maybe not unified in our pregame message,

1878
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:37,080
Speaker 1: we are all brothers, we have a mission, we respect

1879
01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:39,280
Speaker 1: each other, we love one another, and we got to

1880
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:42,880
Speaker 1: win those games. Well, my thoughts on it at the

1881
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 1: time were, this is an issue that I have not

1882
01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:50,280
Speaker 1: lived through. I can't put myself. I can never put

1883
01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:53,599
Speaker 1: myself in one of my black teammates shoes. I can

1884
01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:55,439
Speaker 1: never do it. I wish I could. I wish I

1885
01:42:55,479 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 1: could feel that just maybe from a sympathy standpoint or

1886
01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:02,880
Speaker 1: whatever it may be, I can't do that. But man,

1887
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:05,519
Speaker 1: if I had something important enough in my life that

1888
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:07,800
Speaker 1: I was willing to take the criticism that those guys

1889
01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:11,040
Speaker 1: took at the time for kneeling, if there was anything

1890
01:43:11,280 --> 01:43:13,479
Speaker 1: is important to me in my life that I was

1891
01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:16,160
Speaker 1: willing to take that criticism, I would hope that at

1892
01:43:16,280 --> 01:43:19,680
Speaker 1: least my teammates that didn't have the same views as

1893
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:22,160
Speaker 1: me would respect that enough not to speak out against

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Speaker 1: me or to look at me different. And that was

1895
01:43:25,439 --> 01:43:29,400
Speaker 1: my thought at the time, and now I think it's

1896
01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:35,240
Speaker 1: awful the events that have occurred. I think that maybe

1897
01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:37,680
Speaker 1: we're at a point right now where so much has

1898
01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:40,559
Speaker 1: happened so soon and so many people are coming together,

1899
01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:44,200
Speaker 1: that maybe this will be the change. I just got

1900
01:43:44,240 --> 01:43:46,880
Speaker 1: off of a phone call a couple of hours ago

1901
01:43:47,240 --> 01:43:49,839
Speaker 1: where we had all the people within ESPN College Football

1902
01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:53,720
Speaker 1: and gave anybody they wanted a right to speak up.

1903
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:57,400
Speaker 1: And some of their stories just in the broadcast community

1904
01:43:58,080 --> 01:44:03,120
Speaker 1: were horrifying. I mean horrify, And it's not something I've witnessed.

1905
01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:06,960
Speaker 1: It's not something I experience, and I just feel awful

1906
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:09,600
Speaker 1: and I wish, I wish I could do more. And

1907
01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:12,280
Speaker 1: I think the best posture at this time, in a

1908
01:44:12,360 --> 01:44:14,640
Speaker 1: position where I am I'm in where I want to

1909
01:44:14,680 --> 01:44:18,479
Speaker 1: do something is to listen and learn and then and

1910
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Speaker 1: then proceed from there. Yeah, and I was gonna I

1911
01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:25,360
Speaker 1: want to ask you about how important close knit locker

1912
01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:27,719
Speaker 1: room is. And I've made the point on this show

1913
01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:31,679
Speaker 1: and throughout my time and broadcasting that I think professional

1914
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:34,720
Speaker 1: football maybe and other sports as professional sports as well,

1915
01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:42,880
Speaker 1: or a real testament to how close knit and how

1916
01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:45,799
Speaker 1: good in a lot of cases, how good racial relations

1917
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:48,639
Speaker 1: can be. You've got guys who really truly as genuinely

1918
01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:51,960
Speaker 1: as individuals and as a group, love and respect each

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Speaker 1: other and care about each other across racial lines that

1920
01:44:55,880 --> 01:44:58,559
Speaker 1: maybe isn't present in any other industry. And I've made

1921
01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:01,800
Speaker 1: the point that it's a great place for this kind

1922
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:05,479
Speaker 1: of conversation to take place because you have men who

1923
01:45:06,040 --> 01:45:08,000
Speaker 1: are in the locker room together, and they work and

1924
01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:10,519
Speaker 1: work hard and sacrament. They hurt together, they sweat together,

1925
01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:15,880
Speaker 1: they accomplished things together, they suffer through hard times together.

1926
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Speaker 1: And I think, could you speak to how important and

1927
01:45:19,800 --> 01:45:24,519
Speaker 1: how revealing it is when you're in that type of environment. Yeah,

1928
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:26,760
Speaker 1: I've always said that an NFL locker room is a

1929
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:29,920
Speaker 1: microcosm of what society should look like. And I mean,

1930
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:33,920
Speaker 1: if you can't, I'm I'm not saying this. I say

1931
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Speaker 1: this from a humble standpoint, if you. We always hosted

1932
01:45:37,080 --> 01:45:39,000
Speaker 1: people for thanks the Other and Christmas at our house,

1933
01:45:39,479 --> 01:45:42,439
Speaker 1: and most of the time it was probably fifty percent

1934
01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:45,360
Speaker 1: white and fifty percent black. I understand eighty percent of

1935
01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:48,840
Speaker 1: our team was black, so that's not a crazy number,

1936
01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:52,519
Speaker 1: but it was refreshing. It was fun to have people

1937
01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:54,800
Speaker 1: from different areas of the country, in different backgrounds. We

1938
01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:57,880
Speaker 1: have different food. It was incredible. I say all that,

1939
01:45:58,160 --> 01:46:01,920
Speaker 1: and I've kind of been convicted recently because I've always

1940
01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:05,920
Speaker 1: held the posture like I have a bunch of black friends.

1941
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:07,559
Speaker 1: I have a bunch of black teammates that I get

1942
01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:09,680
Speaker 1: along with so well, well, they're all teammates, you know,

1943
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:14,040
Speaker 1: And I have black friends outside of football. But athletes

1944
01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:18,800
Speaker 1: do get treated differently than non athletes in society. And

1945
01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:23,760
Speaker 1: I think all of my life, a majority of the

1946
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 1: black people I've been around has been through athletics, and

1947
01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:29,720
Speaker 1: I've kind of been convicted hearing other people's stories that

1948
01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:34,360
Speaker 1: aren't involved in the athletics scene, and sometimes they're treated

1949
01:46:34,439 --> 01:46:38,080
Speaker 1: even harsher than the non athletes, which was man, has

1950
01:46:38,120 --> 01:46:42,760
Speaker 1: just been heartbreaking to hear. I know on your podcast,

1951
01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:45,960
Speaker 1: Eric that you know you had Coach on recently in

1952
01:46:46,040 --> 01:46:51,000
Speaker 1: addition to fits, Yeah, a long conversation with coach. I mean,

1953
01:46:51,040 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 1: I think you had more time than even the media did.

1954
01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:57,240
Speaker 1: What did you what did you kind of well, I mean,

1955
01:46:57,320 --> 01:46:59,680
Speaker 1: you know coach as well as anybody. So were there

1956
01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:04,639
Speaker 1: any things that he provided in your dialogue that maybe

1957
01:47:04,720 --> 01:47:07,960
Speaker 1: we're new and kind of stuck in your head that

1958
01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:09,479
Speaker 1: you said, Oh, you know what, I haven't heard that

1959
01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:11,600
Speaker 1: from him before. Was there anything that stood out in

1960
01:47:11,680 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 1: the time that you had with him on your What's Next? Podcast? No?

1961
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:19,720
Speaker 1: Nothing earth shattering, and Coach McDermott is so consistent that

1962
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:21,400
Speaker 1: I kind of knew where I wanted to go with

1963
01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:23,960
Speaker 1: all of it. And it was funny. I reached out

1964
01:47:24,320 --> 01:47:26,439
Speaker 1: through the Bill's media department because I wanted to be

1965
01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:28,840
Speaker 1: respectful of coach and not just text him as a

1966
01:47:28,880 --> 01:47:30,719
Speaker 1: friend to set it up. I wanted to be respectful

1967
01:47:30,760 --> 01:47:33,120
Speaker 1: of his schedule, and they said I had about twenty

1968
01:47:33,200 --> 01:47:35,920
Speaker 1: or thirty minutes, and I said, well, I said, is

1969
01:47:35,960 --> 01:47:38,320
Speaker 1: there something on the back end or can I kind

1970
01:47:38,320 --> 01:47:40,599
Speaker 1: of just feel it out and if he's enjoying the interview,

1971
01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:43,639
Speaker 1: then I'll just keep going. So I ended up being

1972
01:47:43,680 --> 01:47:45,439
Speaker 1: able to steal a little bit more time from him.

1973
01:47:45,479 --> 01:47:50,040
Speaker 1: But probably the thing that stuck out to me the

1974
01:47:50,200 --> 01:47:54,280
Speaker 1: most was the Michael Jackson stuff like that would be history,

1975
01:47:54,600 --> 01:47:57,000
Speaker 1: so was Michael Jackson And that he's got moves, because

1976
01:47:57,479 --> 01:47:59,600
Speaker 1: I don't know that I've seen him busted out the

1977
01:47:59,680 --> 01:48:02,600
Speaker 1: dances before, and he's always the hard clap on the

1978
01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:05,760
Speaker 1: sideline guy when there's a lot of people, you know,

1979
01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:08,360
Speaker 1: getting into the music during the games, and he's never

1980
01:48:08,439 --> 01:48:10,639
Speaker 1: done that, so I gotta see I gotta see those

1981
01:48:10,840 --> 01:48:15,320
Speaker 1: um those dance moves. But I just thought, um, putting

1982
01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:18,160
Speaker 1: coach McDermott on during this time kind of a downtime

1983
01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:21,080
Speaker 1: in the NFL right now, where there usually would be

1984
01:48:21,120 --> 01:48:23,479
Speaker 1: a lot more going on through OTAs and stuff would

1985
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:25,200
Speaker 1: be a lot of funs for phill S fans to

1986
01:48:25,240 --> 01:48:26,720
Speaker 1: get a kick out. They would get a kick out

1987
01:48:26,760 --> 01:48:28,960
Speaker 1: of it. I've always had a great relationship with him,

1988
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:31,120
Speaker 1: and I hope that's stuck out through the podcast, and

1989
01:48:31,479 --> 01:48:34,840
Speaker 1: I hope people people were able to feel how much

1990
01:48:34,840 --> 01:48:37,200
Speaker 1: I respect I had for this man. I mean, when

1991
01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:40,800
Speaker 1: I've been around a lot of people, and I was

1992
01:48:40,840 --> 01:48:43,280
Speaker 1: asked a couple of years ago who the top five

1993
01:48:43,479 --> 01:48:45,840
Speaker 1: leaders I've ever been around and why are And I

1994
01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:50,280
Speaker 1: only spent what seven months under Coach McDermott as my

1995
01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:54,000
Speaker 1: coach before my career ended by injury, and I'd probably

1996
01:48:54,040 --> 01:48:55,880
Speaker 1: put him at the very top of the list of

1997
01:48:56,120 --> 01:48:58,720
Speaker 1: any leader I've been around, and that includes guys like

1998
01:48:58,880 --> 01:49:03,240
Speaker 1: Kyle Williams and Lorenzo Alexander and college coaches, high school coaches, teachers,

1999
01:49:03,280 --> 01:49:05,080
Speaker 1: whoever may be in my life, and I was only

2000
01:49:05,120 --> 01:49:09,160
Speaker 1: around him for seven months as a direct player for him.

2001
01:49:09,840 --> 01:49:13,000
Speaker 1: I will confirm real quick that I did see Coach

2002
01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:17,400
Speaker 1: dancing a little bit at the Christmas party with his wife.

2003
01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:19,960
Speaker 1: It is only for a couple of minutes, but there

2004
01:49:20,080 --> 01:49:22,519
Speaker 1: there is rhythm there. He didn't have it all dialed up,

2005
01:49:23,000 --> 01:49:25,080
Speaker 1: but he was probably at a two on He was

2006
01:49:25,120 --> 01:49:27,559
Speaker 1: probably only at a two on a ten scale, because

2007
01:49:27,560 --> 01:49:29,759
Speaker 1: I gotta imagine he's got to feel like everybody's watching

2008
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:33,320
Speaker 1: him in a setting like that. So but there was

2009
01:49:33,439 --> 01:49:35,720
Speaker 1: enough there to know he's got rhythm. So there you go.

2010
01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:39,839
Speaker 1: I could. Yeah, we'd we'd have to orchestrate a scenario

2011
01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:42,479
Speaker 1: where he was a couple of glasses of wine into

2012
01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:45,519
Speaker 1: it and celebrating a Super Bowl victory before we would

2013
01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:48,120
Speaker 1: see the full Michael Jackson get up. I'm pretty sure. Yeah.

2014
01:49:48,120 --> 01:49:49,880
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I'm gonna say good luck, inting

2015
01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:54,560
Speaker 1: Coach McDermott to break his routine of daily instruction to

2016
01:49:54,680 --> 01:49:57,439
Speaker 1: get to him if you'd have one too many glasses

2017
01:49:57,439 --> 01:49:59,080
Speaker 1: of wine and let his guard down play the super

2018
01:49:59,120 --> 01:50:03,200
Speaker 1: Bowl promise, we would see it. Last question for me, Eric,

2019
01:50:03,240 --> 01:50:05,680
Speaker 1: we're talking about having no fans in the stands. Can

2020
01:50:05,800 --> 01:50:08,160
Speaker 1: you get your mind around what would be like to

2021
01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:11,439
Speaker 1: play a game in an empty stadium with your team

2022
01:50:11,680 --> 01:50:14,960
Speaker 1: playing in a tough, hard fought division game or whatever, whatever,

2023
01:50:15,120 --> 01:50:18,880
Speaker 1: whatever game you want to pick, with no fans in

2024
01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:25,960
Speaker 1: the stands. Yeah, no atmosphere at all. Can you get

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01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:28,880
Speaker 1: your mind around what the significant differences would be and

2026
01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:32,439
Speaker 1: how it would or maybe the significant effects, if any

2027
01:50:32,760 --> 01:50:35,240
Speaker 1: would be. I would love to make a joke right

2028
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:38,040
Speaker 1: now that I've played on bad enough teams with I

2029
01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:40,240
Speaker 1: have played an empty stadium, but I really didn't. They

2030
01:50:40,320 --> 01:50:43,479
Speaker 1: still they still showed up. People still showed up in Buffalo. Yeah,

2031
01:50:43,479 --> 01:50:45,920
Speaker 1: we're eliminated from the playoffs at snow and people still

2032
01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:48,760
Speaker 1: showed up and there was an atmosphere. So I've never

2033
01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:52,680
Speaker 1: felt that. I mean, it's going to be interesting what

2034
01:50:52,720 --> 01:50:55,599
Speaker 1: they would do from a music standpoint. If they're pumping

2035
01:50:55,680 --> 01:50:57,920
Speaker 1: crowd noise. They wouldn't be able to do that because

2036
01:50:57,960 --> 01:51:00,720
Speaker 1: some stadiums could get louder than others and and all that.

2037
01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:05,040
Speaker 1: But it's going to take a lot of self discipline

2038
01:51:05,280 --> 01:51:08,120
Speaker 1: to get up for each game. It's gonna take You're

2039
01:51:08,160 --> 01:51:10,920
Speaker 1: gonna see the true the teams with true leadership from

2040
01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:16,160
Speaker 1: within get get guys going, because man, when it's cold

2041
01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:19,400
Speaker 1: and you're sore and Steve, you've played in games where

2042
01:51:19,479 --> 01:51:22,040
Speaker 1: you run out that tunnel and oh, here we go,

2043
01:51:22,680 --> 01:51:25,959
Speaker 1: but prior to that, you're like, I feel like garbage

2044
01:51:26,080 --> 01:51:29,360
Speaker 1: right now, and I need that. I need that Fani

2045
01:51:29,479 --> 01:51:32,720
Speaker 1: whether it's away crowd or a home craft. It's like

2046
01:51:32,920 --> 01:51:35,840
Speaker 1: you feed off that energy and that keeps your adrenaline

2047
01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:39,280
Speaker 1: going for including warm ups four and a half hours

2048
01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:41,880
Speaker 1: or whatever it may be. So it's it's gonna be

2049
01:51:41,960 --> 01:51:44,800
Speaker 1: interesting and it's hard to round my mind around and

2050
01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:48,080
Speaker 1: me now being in the broadcast scene, you know, there's

2051
01:51:48,080 --> 01:51:51,759
Speaker 1: not a whole lot of answers, especially in college football,

2052
01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:54,800
Speaker 1: with certain conferences saying they wanted to do it, not

2053
01:51:54,960 --> 01:51:58,720
Speaker 1: want to. There's it seems like there's more uncertainty in

2054
01:51:59,120 --> 01:52:02,439
Speaker 1: college football with what a season would or wouldn't look like,

2055
01:52:02,920 --> 01:52:05,439
Speaker 1: because if the students are at school, how do you

2056
01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:09,120
Speaker 1: throw the football team out on the field and they're

2057
01:52:09,160 --> 01:52:11,320
Speaker 1: all going to be living together? You know, if you

2058
01:52:11,479 --> 01:52:14,679
Speaker 1: if you're teaming, it's unsafe for students to be on campus.

2059
01:52:14,760 --> 01:52:18,800
Speaker 1: How is it safe for you? And I'm not saying

2060
01:52:18,920 --> 01:52:24,240
Speaker 1: that's my opinion, I am saying that logic doesn't work. Yes, exactly,

2061
01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:27,479
Speaker 1: the logic doesn't work, no question, real quick, Eric, So

2062
01:52:27,920 --> 01:52:30,679
Speaker 1: would you would you say it's I'm accurate in saying

2063
01:52:30,760 --> 01:52:36,320
Speaker 1: that players across the board at some point in time

2064
01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:39,559
Speaker 1: in their playing career, they will feed off the energy

2065
01:52:39,640 --> 01:52:42,439
Speaker 1: of the crowd in some way, shape or form during

2066
01:52:42,960 --> 01:52:45,640
Speaker 1: a point at any game that they've ever suited up for,

2067
01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:48,639
Speaker 1: every single player feeds off the energy of the crowd.

2068
01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:52,360
Speaker 1: Would that be accurate or misguided? I mean, I would

2069
01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:54,840
Speaker 1: say that's accurate in some way, shape or form. I'm

2070
01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:57,320
Speaker 1: sure some guys get psyched out by it, you know,

2071
01:52:57,360 --> 01:53:01,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure some. I'm sure there's been young quarterbacks that

2072
01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:03,439
Speaker 1: they get on the road for the first time in

2073
01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:06,160
Speaker 1: an NFL in a hostile environment and they can't communicate

2074
01:53:06,240 --> 01:53:08,880
Speaker 1: with anybody, and they start to freak out like that's

2075
01:53:08,880 --> 01:53:12,280
Speaker 1: a that's a motion that's being affected by the crowd.

2076
01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:14,519
Speaker 1: I would say, yes, everybody has been affected by the

2077
01:53:14,560 --> 01:53:17,360
Speaker 1: crowd in some sense. And I would say that most guys,

2078
01:53:18,439 --> 01:53:22,080
Speaker 1: when you consider an NFL team generally has fifty three

2079
01:53:22,120 --> 01:53:25,000
Speaker 1: alpha males that are you know, been the top dog

2080
01:53:25,080 --> 01:53:26,840
Speaker 1: for a while, and they're kind of cut a certain

2081
01:53:26,880 --> 01:53:28,840
Speaker 1: way to make it to where they're at. Man, you

2082
01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:30,479
Speaker 1: get them in front of that crowd and that that

2083
01:53:30,680 --> 01:53:33,080
Speaker 1: just clicks for them and they think, Man, I'm about

2084
01:53:33,120 --> 01:53:34,360
Speaker 1: to turn it on. I got to put on a

2085
01:53:34,360 --> 01:53:38,000
Speaker 1: show today, and not having that is going to be

2086
01:53:38,320 --> 01:53:42,840
Speaker 1: really interesting if that is the case. Eric, thanks so much. Man.

2087
01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:45,599
Speaker 1: It's great seeing you have a great time this weekend

2088
01:53:45,720 --> 01:53:47,880
Speaker 1: and all this. You know, through this pandemic in the summer.

2089
01:53:47,920 --> 01:53:49,720
Speaker 1: I know you're down in Louisville the way, it's got

2090
01:53:49,800 --> 01:53:51,840
Speaker 1: to be great. It's broken up here in Buffalo. I

2091
01:53:51,920 --> 01:53:53,360
Speaker 1: hope you get a chance to get out and joy

2092
01:53:53,439 --> 01:53:55,720
Speaker 1: some time in your family and stay well during the

2093
01:53:55,800 --> 01:53:58,200
Speaker 1: rest of the pandemic. I appreciate it. Thanks for having me,

2094
01:53:58,200 --> 01:54:01,760
Speaker 1: young guys. Thats on Harry would Buffalo Bills Radio color

2095
01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:04,760
Speaker 1: analysts for their games played nine season the National Football League,

2096
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Speaker 1: former first round pick. Glad to have him on. Steve

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown. Just get off the phone with Eric Wood

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01:54:26,720 --> 01:54:30,000
Speaker 1: on Skype with us during the last segment eight. It is.

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Speaker 1: The more we talk about it, the more strange. I

2103
01:54:32,480 --> 01:54:34,320
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be for the players. And we were

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01:54:34,360 --> 01:54:37,640
Speaker 1: talking in the break about Brownie, who's the hype man

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01:54:37,760 --> 01:54:41,000
Speaker 1: gonna be right, Who's gonna be the guy if there

2106
01:54:41,080 --> 01:54:43,840
Speaker 1: are no fans? Yeah right, you gotta your players. There

2107
01:54:43,880 --> 01:54:45,720
Speaker 1: are certain players on your team. Everybody knows them. They

2108
01:54:45,800 --> 01:54:47,880
Speaker 1: got a friend on the team, their buddy on their

2109
01:54:47,960 --> 01:54:50,240
Speaker 1: Beer League team or whatever. The guy who says let's go,

2110
01:54:51,400 --> 01:54:54,240
Speaker 1: who's that gonna be for the Bills? Because the last

2111
01:54:54,360 --> 01:54:58,040
Speaker 1: year was probably the guy. Phillips and Shack Lawson were

2112
01:54:58,120 --> 01:55:01,560
Speaker 1: the energy guys for them. So that's a void at

2113
01:55:01,600 --> 01:55:03,400
Speaker 1: least on the defensive side of the ball that's gonna

2114
01:55:03,440 --> 01:55:06,800
Speaker 1: need to be filled. And who knows, Maybe it's one

2115
01:55:06,840 --> 01:55:10,080
Speaker 1: of the new arrivals like Mario Addison somebody like that.

2116
01:55:10,440 --> 01:55:13,040
Speaker 1: Maybe it's Ed Oliver, which is a guy that I

2117
01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:16,360
Speaker 1: think you mentioned that you think could be piping people up.

2118
01:55:17,280 --> 01:55:19,360
Speaker 1: It's got a high motor and those guys tend to

2119
01:55:19,440 --> 01:55:22,400
Speaker 1: be more vocal and jumping up and down guys, And

2120
01:55:22,640 --> 01:55:25,200
Speaker 1: so you know, maybe it's Jordan Poyer. Who knows. We'll

2121
01:55:25,240 --> 01:55:28,560
Speaker 1: have to We'll have to let that kind of organically

2122
01:55:28,680 --> 01:55:32,640
Speaker 1: manifest itself. And on offense, Yeah, I who could it be.

2123
01:55:33,320 --> 01:55:35,840
Speaker 1: It's got several choices. There could be could be Diggs,

2124
01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:38,800
Speaker 1: who knows. Yeah, I mean, but but you gotta think though,

2125
01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:40,640
Speaker 1: and we're thinking that's that's what you're gonna look to.

2126
01:55:40,680 --> 01:55:42,560
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to have guys to say, come on, guys,

2127
01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:48,480
Speaker 1: let's go get yeah proud there to give it to you.

2128
01:55:49,280 --> 01:55:51,400
Speaker 1: It's gonna have to be manufactured for some guys. And

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01:55:51,480 --> 01:55:54,280
Speaker 1: it's like Eric said in the last segment, you get

2130
01:55:54,280 --> 01:55:59,640
Speaker 1: to week fifteen or sixteen and you're hanging physically. You

2131
01:55:59,840 --> 01:56:03,680
Speaker 1: need that juice to get through a game. You know,

2132
01:56:03,760 --> 01:56:06,839
Speaker 1: in week sixteen, maybe if you're fighting some nagging injury

2133
01:56:07,280 --> 01:56:10,160
Speaker 1: and you're eighty five percent and you don't have that

2134
01:56:10,720 --> 01:56:15,080
Speaker 1: crowd energy coming at you from all angles, you're gonna

2135
01:56:15,120 --> 01:56:18,520
Speaker 1: need another source to draw that from. Yeah, no question

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01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:21,080
Speaker 1: about it. And it's and it's it's a real thing.

2137
01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:24,320
Speaker 1: Because I've said it a ton on this broad on

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01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:27,240
Speaker 1: broadcast and also on this radio show that you can

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01:56:27,320 --> 01:56:30,920
Speaker 1: tell if you have got to bring emotional content to

2140
01:56:31,040 --> 01:56:34,640
Speaker 1: an NFL game. You can tell immediately when one team

2141
01:56:34,760 --> 01:56:37,200
Speaker 1: turns it off because the other team will go back

2142
01:56:37,240 --> 01:56:39,880
Speaker 1: even if they haven't done anything offensively down all day.

2143
01:56:40,760 --> 01:56:43,240
Speaker 1: The moment the other team takes its foot off the gas,

2144
01:56:43,560 --> 01:56:46,160
Speaker 1: emotionally it is bang bang bang, and you give up

2145
01:56:46,160 --> 01:56:47,960
Speaker 1: a touchdown, and then the next series it's the same thing,

2146
01:56:48,080 --> 01:56:50,120
Speaker 1: bang bang, banging. You can give up a touchdown, you

2147
01:56:50,120 --> 01:56:52,440
Speaker 1: can go back to forget about the greatest comeback game

2148
01:56:52,480 --> 01:56:55,840
Speaker 1: when that's exactly what happened. I've seen it happen week

2149
01:56:55,920 --> 01:56:58,680
Speaker 1: after week in the NFL. When a team gets up,

2150
01:56:59,000 --> 01:57:02,000
Speaker 1: it scores that late touchdown to go up two scores

2151
01:57:02,840 --> 01:57:05,880
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they just they become a different

2152
01:57:05,960 --> 01:57:08,840
Speaker 1: football team because the emotional content and they start to

2153
01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:12,400
Speaker 1: get complacent. It's there. And if you can't start a

2154
01:57:12,520 --> 01:57:16,400
Speaker 1: game and match the intensity that the other team brings,

2155
01:57:17,320 --> 01:57:20,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna get rolled. You are gonna get rolled. That's

2156
01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:22,960
Speaker 1: just all the way that, there's no two ways about it,

2157
01:57:23,000 --> 01:57:25,120
Speaker 1: And that's that's gonna be a factor in these games

2158
01:57:25,320 --> 01:57:27,680
Speaker 1: in the early going. You gotta show up big time

2159
01:57:28,480 --> 01:57:31,720
Speaker 1: and at least match what the other team brings to

2160
01:57:31,800 --> 01:57:35,520
Speaker 1: the table, you know. So I'm I think we're gonna

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01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:38,520
Speaker 1: see instances where you can tell the fans not being

2162
01:57:38,560 --> 01:57:41,080
Speaker 1: there are gonna have an effect. Should we get back

2163
01:57:41,120 --> 01:57:43,600
Speaker 1: to the tweet sheet here, let's go to the tweet

2164
01:57:43,600 --> 01:57:44,960
Speaker 1: sheet and after the tweet sheet, we do a couple

2165
01:57:44,960 --> 01:57:47,160
Speaker 1: of tweet sheets and then we'll go to maybe we'll

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01:57:47,160 --> 01:57:49,320
Speaker 1: get to NFL true falls from the tweet sheet or

2167
01:57:49,320 --> 01:57:52,600
Speaker 1: what broadcast? What should broadcasts do if there are no

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01:57:52,760 --> 01:57:55,840
Speaker 1: fans in the stands? And from the tweet sheet From Peter,

2169
01:57:55,960 --> 01:57:59,120
Speaker 1: he says, I'm a Patriots fan from Niagara Falls, Canada. Lol.

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01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:01,080
Speaker 1: I love your show and listen every day as I

2171
01:58:01,160 --> 01:58:04,440
Speaker 1: deliver online products on the front lines. My idea for

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01:58:04,600 --> 01:58:08,320
Speaker 1: fan noise is one thousand fan zoom calls displayed on

2173
01:58:08,400 --> 01:58:12,200
Speaker 1: the jumbotrons, auction off the opportunity weekly to fans to

2174
01:58:12,320 --> 01:58:15,600
Speaker 1: raise them and raise money that way. That's a good idea.

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01:58:15,680 --> 01:58:18,800
Speaker 1: That's a that's a good way to use this for

2176
01:58:19,080 --> 01:58:23,800
Speaker 1: good cause, whatever the whatever the whatever the charity would be,

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01:58:23,960 --> 01:58:26,440
Speaker 1: to raise the money put it up for You'll be

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01:58:26,520 --> 01:58:30,120
Speaker 1: one of the thousand people on this JumboTron that will

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01:58:30,200 --> 01:58:33,080
Speaker 1: be able to be piped into the stadium. That's a

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01:58:33,160 --> 01:58:35,320
Speaker 1: good idea. Yeah, I don't know if you could fit

2181
01:58:35,360 --> 01:58:37,520
Speaker 1: all one thousand on a screen at the same time.

2182
01:58:37,640 --> 01:58:40,400
Speaker 1: But maybe you better get up into groups, you know,

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01:58:40,560 --> 01:58:43,560
Speaker 1: two fifty and they do the first quarter, two fifty

2184
01:58:43,640 --> 01:58:46,600
Speaker 1: they do the second quarter. Do it that way. Maybe

2185
01:58:46,680 --> 01:58:48,520
Speaker 1: do two fifty per quarter. Get them up on a

2186
01:58:48,600 --> 01:58:51,080
Speaker 1: screen and see how loud they can be. Maybe do

2187
01:58:51,200 --> 01:58:52,760
Speaker 1: it that way. Yeah, you could do it. Well, they

2188
01:58:52,760 --> 01:58:54,480
Speaker 1: can be as loud as you turn the volume up,

2189
01:58:54,560 --> 01:58:57,480
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, that's us what's gonna happen? And

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01:58:57,640 --> 01:58:59,520
Speaker 1: how would you prompt them? Would you have to wait

2191
01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:01,880
Speaker 1: and prompt them at a certain moment and say, okay,

2192
01:59:01,960 --> 01:59:04,600
Speaker 1: let's hear it from our fans. And how does that work?

2193
01:59:04,680 --> 01:59:07,200
Speaker 1: How how do they know when did cheer? They're watching

2194
01:59:07,200 --> 01:59:10,520
Speaker 1: the game and I care for the game, you know, nobody,

2195
01:59:10,880 --> 01:59:12,960
Speaker 1: nobody's there to see him. I'm not sure you could

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01:59:13,000 --> 01:59:16,280
Speaker 1: do it in a live type setting just because of

2197
01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:19,280
Speaker 1: delay and all of that stuff, and who knows where

2198
01:59:19,360 --> 01:59:22,640
Speaker 1: these people are beaming in from, so that that might

2199
01:59:22,720 --> 01:59:25,920
Speaker 1: be a tough row to hoe there. Yeah, one more

2200
01:59:25,960 --> 01:59:29,240
Speaker 1: from the tweet sheet. Yeah, from t Shirt University. It

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01:59:29,440 --> 01:59:31,400
Speaker 1: might be tough to mike up players, but you can

2202
01:59:31,560 --> 01:59:35,200
Speaker 1: enhance the on field boom mic so fans can hear

2203
01:59:35,320 --> 01:59:40,280
Speaker 1: what players are saying on the field. Uh, I suppose

2204
01:59:40,360 --> 01:59:44,800
Speaker 1: you could, and they will certainly be more audible with

2205
01:59:45,000 --> 01:59:48,840
Speaker 1: no ambient fan noise to speak of. It's like I

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01:59:48,920 --> 01:59:51,400
Speaker 1: said Steve earlier in the show, when I was watching

2207
01:59:51,480 --> 01:59:54,280
Speaker 1: that German soccer League the first week with no fans

2208
01:59:54,640 --> 01:59:59,440
Speaker 1: and no fan sound being broadcast over the network, you

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01:59:59,520 --> 02:00:02,040
Speaker 1: could hear players talking to each other on the field,

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02:00:02,320 --> 02:00:04,760
Speaker 1: and you could hear the coaches on the sideline yelling

2211
02:00:04,800 --> 02:00:08,000
Speaker 1: at the players. Like clearly if I if I spoke German,

2212
02:00:08,040 --> 02:00:09,960
Speaker 1: I could have told you exactly what they were saying.

2213
02:00:10,520 --> 02:00:13,480
Speaker 1: Rum But yeah, it's an issue. And I think too,

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02:00:14,480 --> 02:00:17,520
Speaker 1: if you have a skycam, Brownie, oh yeah, one of

2215
02:00:17,560 --> 02:00:20,160
Speaker 1: those cable cams, oh cable cam, and you put a

2216
02:00:20,320 --> 02:00:23,200
Speaker 1: parabolic mic on that thing that you could joystick that

2217
02:00:23,280 --> 02:00:26,760
Speaker 1: thing where one of them, you can hear absolutely everything

2218
02:00:26,840 --> 02:00:28,840
Speaker 1: that's being said on that field, and you can hear

2219
02:00:28,840 --> 02:00:32,360
Speaker 1: it all at once, so they could audio wise and

2220
02:00:32,480 --> 02:00:36,280
Speaker 1: technologically wise, it's possible to do that. I think the

2221
02:00:36,400 --> 02:00:43,960
Speaker 1: book the skycam is the most underutilized broadcast tool you could.

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02:00:44,280 --> 02:00:46,640
Speaker 1: You gotta put a microphone on that thing. You got

2223
02:00:46,760 --> 02:00:48,480
Speaker 1: to point it right down at the field and get

2224
02:00:48,560 --> 02:00:51,360
Speaker 1: some noise. Because here's the thing, too, Brownie, and this

2225
02:00:51,560 --> 02:00:55,880
Speaker 1: is something that might get by certainly in an intellectual level,

2226
02:00:55,880 --> 02:00:57,520
Speaker 1: they'll be able to do it. But if when you're

2227
02:00:57,640 --> 02:00:59,640
Speaker 1: on game day in the stadium and you're playing these

2228
02:00:59,680 --> 02:01:01,840
Speaker 1: games like this, you don't know that the mics are on,

2229
02:01:01,920 --> 02:01:03,680
Speaker 1: you won't even You'll forget that the mics are on.

2230
02:01:04,080 --> 02:01:06,080
Speaker 1: If you're walking around the field, you'll forget that the

2231
02:01:06,240 --> 02:01:09,280
Speaker 1: boom mic, the skycam has a mic on it, that

2232
02:01:09,400 --> 02:01:12,680
Speaker 1: the parabolic mic can hear everything, that there's four or

2233
02:01:12,720 --> 02:01:15,160
Speaker 1: five of them around. You kind of forget that, you know,

2234
02:01:16,840 --> 02:01:20,040
Speaker 1: and you'll never know until you go back and watch

2235
02:01:20,240 --> 02:01:23,560
Speaker 1: what the broadcast sounds like. So the coaches will have

2236
02:01:23,640 --> 02:01:26,000
Speaker 1: to go back and listen to it because there's you

2237
02:01:26,080 --> 02:01:27,960
Speaker 1: always know that he might have said this over here,

2238
02:01:28,040 --> 02:01:29,520
Speaker 1: but they didn't catch it on the micro, didn't have

2239
02:01:29,560 --> 02:01:31,880
Speaker 1: a live mic pot it up at the moment when

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02:01:31,920 --> 02:01:34,320
Speaker 1: he said it. That kind of stuff too. So one

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02:01:34,440 --> 02:01:37,560
Speaker 1: makes it into the broadcast live is very much up

2242
02:01:37,600 --> 02:01:40,440
Speaker 1: to the technical director and the director, and it's hard

2243
02:01:40,480 --> 02:01:42,160
Speaker 1: to find out what that's going to sound like to

2244
02:01:42,240 --> 02:01:43,960
Speaker 1: the guys that are actually on the field. They won't

2245
02:01:44,000 --> 02:01:48,560
Speaker 1: know until after the fact. I think that the reason

2246
02:01:48,680 --> 02:01:52,600
Speaker 1: we haven't seen it already is because you're in a

2247
02:01:52,680 --> 02:01:56,360
Speaker 1: situation where maybe that's where the pushback comes from the

2248
02:01:56,400 --> 02:01:59,120
Speaker 1: coaching staff. They don't want a microphone on a cable cam,

2249
02:01:59,600 --> 02:02:02,080
Speaker 1: so anybody that wants to watch the game can hear

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02:02:02,240 --> 02:02:08,000
Speaker 1: all of the quarterbacks pre snap terminology, because the opponent

2251
02:02:08,040 --> 02:02:11,920
Speaker 1: the next week's watching that then right right and going

2252
02:02:11,960 --> 02:02:15,200
Speaker 1: to school and going to school on that. So I

2253
02:02:15,320 --> 02:02:18,360
Speaker 1: think there's going to be pushback there from poss And

2254
02:02:18,520 --> 02:02:20,760
Speaker 1: I think also and it does, and there is there

2255
02:02:20,800 --> 02:02:25,600
Speaker 1: are ways around it verbally, wherein the players are using

2256
02:02:25,640 --> 02:02:28,000
Speaker 1: these words and they're doing this kind of stuff all

2257
02:02:28,040 --> 02:02:31,560
Speaker 1: the time, and they can kind of decipher what those

2258
02:02:31,600 --> 02:02:33,920
Speaker 1: words might mean. But it's easy enough too during the

2259
02:02:34,000 --> 02:02:37,800
Speaker 1: next week to change the words, change the words and

2260
02:02:37,920 --> 02:02:41,560
Speaker 1: what they mean. So you can change those languages. Instead

2261
02:02:41,560 --> 02:02:45,040
Speaker 1: of saying you know reverse here, you say you know,

2262
02:02:46,000 --> 02:02:50,640
Speaker 1: change over instead of reverse, and that simple word could

2263
02:02:50,800 --> 02:02:52,880
Speaker 1: mean the same thing, or it might mean something different

2264
02:02:52,920 --> 02:02:54,680
Speaker 1: to the other team. You don't know, So you can

2265
02:02:54,800 --> 02:02:57,400
Speaker 1: change those words week to week. And it takes a

2266
02:02:57,440 --> 02:03:00,160
Speaker 1: lot of work, which teams will try and do. It's

2267
02:03:00,160 --> 02:03:02,120
Speaker 1: a lot of work to decipher the meaning behind the

2268
02:03:02,200 --> 02:03:05,600
Speaker 1: words they say. And if your quarterback is any good

2269
02:03:05,640 --> 02:03:09,120
Speaker 1: at all, he can give dummy calls as well. That

2270
02:03:09,280 --> 02:03:12,520
Speaker 1: can be construed as well. That's real, that's not real.

2271
02:03:12,600 --> 02:03:14,520
Speaker 1: And he used this word here and this word here,

2272
02:03:14,600 --> 02:03:17,440
Speaker 1: and he used it here and here and there, and

2273
02:03:17,560 --> 02:03:20,240
Speaker 1: only one of them is real? Which one isn't? You know?

2274
02:03:20,360 --> 02:03:23,760
Speaker 1: It becomes a real puzzle, and it's it's difficult to do,

2275
02:03:23,840 --> 02:03:25,640
Speaker 1: but teams will try and put in the work to

2276
02:03:25,880 --> 02:03:28,720
Speaker 1: decipher it whatever they can, but remains to be seen.

2277
02:03:28,800 --> 02:03:31,840
Speaker 1: How Yeah, that's extra work during a week though, to

2278
02:03:31,880 --> 02:03:36,200
Speaker 1: get ready for your next opponent in changing that language, right, Yeah,

2279
02:03:36,360 --> 02:03:39,760
Speaker 1: no question about it. This one's kind of funny from Craigs.

2280
02:03:39,760 --> 02:03:41,480
Speaker 1: The last one we'll get to here before the break.

2281
02:03:41,720 --> 02:03:44,440
Speaker 1: As a season ticket, hold your gift. I'd love a

2282
02:03:44,560 --> 02:03:47,760
Speaker 1: cutout of myself in my seat for the season. Then

2283
02:03:47,800 --> 02:03:50,040
Speaker 1: I would like to keep it after the season. See,

2284
02:03:50,160 --> 02:03:52,760
Speaker 1: I'm telling you there's people out there that want these

2285
02:03:52,840 --> 02:03:55,600
Speaker 1: cardboard cutouts in the seats. They sold a bunch of them.

2286
02:03:55,720 --> 02:03:59,080
Speaker 1: One of those German teams had like five thousand sold

2287
02:03:59,560 --> 02:04:03,080
Speaker 1: season ticket holder cardboard cutouts sitting in their seat when

2288
02:04:03,120 --> 02:04:06,320
Speaker 1: they can't go to the game. If there's money to

2289
02:04:06,400 --> 02:04:08,720
Speaker 1: be made, man, if people want it that bad, hey

2290
02:04:08,880 --> 02:04:10,600
Speaker 1: cough up the cash and they're gonna make it happen,

2291
02:04:10,720 --> 02:04:15,160
Speaker 1: right man, right, life size that card life size cardboard cutout. Okay,

2292
02:04:15,720 --> 02:04:18,120
Speaker 1: that's good, all right, that's it may work, It may work.

2293
02:04:18,160 --> 02:04:21,760
Speaker 1: Steve Taskman, Chris Brown, here till three o'clock. Uh, well,

2294
02:04:21,800 --> 02:04:24,080
Speaker 1: we don't have time. We're gonna save this NFL true

2295
02:04:24,120 --> 02:04:26,280
Speaker 1: false for tomorrow. Is that all right with you? Brown?

2296
02:04:27,320 --> 02:04:30,520
Speaker 1: All right, we'll do the NFL true fALS tomorrow, which

2297
02:04:30,600 --> 02:04:33,280
Speaker 1: means Yancey's fancies New York cardiss and Cheese will have

2298
02:04:33,360 --> 02:04:36,240
Speaker 1: to wait until tomorrow, when it will once again become

2299
02:04:36,240 --> 02:04:40,440
Speaker 1: America's cheese. All right, So, Steve Tasker, Chris Brown, A

2300
02:04:40,520 --> 02:04:42,320
Speaker 1: lot to talk about here today. We're here till three.

2301
02:04:42,440 --> 02:04:44,240
Speaker 1: Just at the top of the hour. We've had Eric

2302
02:04:44,320 --> 02:04:47,440
Speaker 1: Wood on with us the NFL Radio the Bill's Radio

2303
02:04:47,480 --> 02:04:49,800
Speaker 1: color analysts. We also had Doug Ferrar on him with us,

2304
02:04:50,120 --> 02:04:52,440
Speaker 1: a writer for USA Today's Sports. A lot going on

2305
02:04:52,600 --> 02:04:54,200
Speaker 1: with how the teams are gonna look when they come

2306
02:04:54,240 --> 02:04:56,280
Speaker 1: back into the building and what the games are gonna

2307
02:04:56,320 --> 02:04:58,760
Speaker 1: look when they actually take place. We'll be right back

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Speaker 1: after the break one Bills I presented by Kalid to

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Speaker 1: for our on from USA Today Sports and we asked

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Speaker 1: him if the NFL will put a protest policy in

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Speaker 1: place for this season. Here's what Doug said. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the way players have spoken in the last few weeks,

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Speaker 1: it's they understand that they're, you know, kind of at

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Speaker 1: the intersection of something really remarkable and really unprecedented. I

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Speaker 1: think the NFL needs to back off and trust the

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Speaker 1: person the sense of personal responsibility of its players to

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Speaker 1: do what's right for our From USA Today Sports, we

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Speaker 1: also had Eric Wood on the Buffalo Bills Radio analyst

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Speaker 1: and he asked on a player's perspective to the possibility

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Speaker 1: of having no fans in the stands. Here's what e

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Speaker 1: Wood said about it. It's going to take a lot

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Speaker 1: of self discipline to get up for each game, and

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Speaker 1: it's gonna take You're gonna see the true the teams

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Speaker 1: with true leadership from within. Get get guys, going because man,

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Speaker 1: when it's cold and you're sore, and Steve, you've played

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Speaker 1: in games where you run out that tunnel and who

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Speaker 1: here we go. But prior to that, you're like, I

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Speaker 1: feel like garbage right now, and I need that. I

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Speaker 1: need that fan. Whether it's away crowd or a home craft.

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Speaker 1: It's like you feed off that energy and that keeps

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Speaker 1: your adrenaline going for including warm ups four and a

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Speaker 1: half hours or whatever it may be. So it's it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be interesting in That was Eric Wood on what

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Speaker 1: do we learned? Brought to you by Skyworks, the official

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Speaker 1: construction equipment rental company of the Buffalo Bills. We also

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Speaker 1: asked you, the fans, what if there are no fans

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Speaker 1: in the stands, what should the broadcast do to fill

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Speaker 1: the voids? Almost fifty eight percent said, you know what,

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Speaker 1: just mike the players up. I want to get closer

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Speaker 1: to them twenty percent. Twenty two percent said pump in

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Speaker 1: crowd noise. I want to feel like it's that there's

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Speaker 1: an environment there, and only ten percent said fill the

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Speaker 1: seats with stuffed animals or cardboard cutouts. Nine percent had

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Speaker 1: something else in mind. Brownie's what's the final word? Do

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Speaker 1: you think on what do you think will happen with

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Speaker 1: no fans in the stands. What's gonna be the biggest

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Speaker 1: noticeable difference for the players maybe, and then maybe what's

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Speaker 1: for difference for the fans that they all noticed players.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be the lack of an atmosphere. You're not

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Speaker 1: gonna have fan noise, crowd reacting to plays. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be weird for them. And then for the fans, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be at the mercy of the networks to come

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Speaker 1: up with something creative to make the game day experience

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Speaker 1: almost as good as being there. We'll have to see

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Speaker 1: what the networks come up with. Yeah, and it is

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Speaker 1: gonna be a race. I think they're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: figure out how to make it interesting for the people

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Speaker 1: who are watching and make it I think the league

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Speaker 1: would like They'll probably have mutual conversation. The league would

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Speaker 1: like to say, hey, listen, how can we make it

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Speaker 1: more enticing for fans to get back in the building

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Speaker 1: as well? Right? No question? All right, Steve Tasker, thanks Brownie,

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Speaker 1: good show. That was a fun, fun topic. Yeah, I'd

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Speaker 1: like to thank Kelly Rudin, Jay Harris as well, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: see you tomorrow. We'll be back. We've got Neil Reynolds

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Speaker 1: coming on from nfl UK. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio,

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Speaker 1: and this has been one Bill's Live