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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.

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Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your

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Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey

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Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and

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Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the

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Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in

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Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or

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Speaker 1: scripted as well. Let's get into the season sixteenth finale

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Speaker 1: of the Real Housewives of Atlanta. I will say this,

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Speaker 1: I thoroughly enjoyed this season. Shout out to Bravo, shout

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Speaker 1: out to truly Original. You know listen, I obviously have

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Speaker 1: been very honest about past seasons of the show. I

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Speaker 1: will say this about this season. I do feel like

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Speaker 1: the Real Housewives antisfact. I've had so much fun recapping

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Speaker 1: these episodes with quality and DestinE for the past sixteen weeks. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it feels like yes, it feels like yesterday. So before

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Speaker 1: we get into that, I didn't want to say that

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Speaker 1: that this has been pure joy to recap these episodes.

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Speaker 1: We do have three more reunions that we're going to

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Speaker 1: recap starting next week. But I wanted to kick things

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Speaker 1: off by saying that. But I also want to kick

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Speaker 1: things off by talking about the episode and getting your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on the finale. So one of the things that

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Speaker 1: occurred in this finale, because I want to the finale

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Speaker 1: had a lot of interesting things happening into it. So

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Speaker 1: if it's okay with you, Destin and Claudia, I just

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Speaker 1: want to get right into, like okay, okay. So I

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Speaker 1: do want to get into what I felt was this

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Speaker 1: nice nasty exchange between Shami the Uh and Brett. I

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Speaker 1: want to get there first. So Shamia is a singer.

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Speaker 1: Shamia is working with r L from the you know,

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Speaker 1: notoriously iconic group next that had a number one hit

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Speaker 1: called too Close and which, by the way, some of

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Speaker 1: you guys in New York got got your glow grass. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: but what I will say my best friend has to

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Speaker 1: be like, hey, y'all stop, like.

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Speaker 2: Whatever was cool? Go ahead though here you know, he's like.

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Speaker 1: You know everyone, he's my African, which is funny, but

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Speaker 1: I digress. I know, I know, dust it it's hilarious.

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Speaker 1: But anyways, Shamia is having like a showcase, right us

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Speaker 1: hilarious inside joke. Shamia is having a showcase. The girls

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Speaker 1: came to it. I listen. I'll say this much. You

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Speaker 1: can say which one about Shamiah, but I would love

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Speaker 1: to get dozen and Claudia's thoughts. In my opinion, Shamiah

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Speaker 1: can sing and and and listen. I know how, I

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Speaker 1: know how these shows work. There's always gonna be a

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Speaker 1: moment where something may be a little off. That is

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Speaker 1: an opportunity for a shady bite. But I think overall,

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Speaker 1: I thought she me did a great job. I think

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Speaker 1: she can sing. Drew shaded her. They flashed back to

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Speaker 1: Drew child at the reunion. But I thought she me

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Speaker 1: did a good job. What you guys think.

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Speaker 2: I thought she did a good job to listen. Is

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Speaker 2: she talented? Right? That's the focus here, It's not the choices.

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Speaker 2: Did I agree with the wardrobe? No? Did I think that.

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Speaker 2: I thought she was just having fun, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean. Shemiah has access to resources and she was

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Speaker 2: That's what that was to me. She was like a

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Do I think she's talented

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Speaker 2: and she's singing? Hell yeah, she can sing. She's got

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Speaker 2: And so that was it for me. You know, that

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Speaker 2: was not Awards show worthy performance, but it shouldn't have

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Speaker 3: I agreed.

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Speaker 4: Now, you know, I don't like that there's been shaded

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Speaker 4: between her and Drew because they actually essentially want to

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Speaker 4: can see all your missteps, all your fine tuning. Samia

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Speaker 1: That happens.

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Speaker 4: It happens all the time, and she shouldn't be penalized

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Speaker 4: for that, like she somehow can't sing or that takes

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Speaker 4: away from her talent. Even your faves have nights where

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Speaker 4: that happens. That's part of the process. Your favorite comedians

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Speaker 4: will bomb, your favorite TV hosts will mess up a sentence,

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Speaker 4: in the process of fine tuning. And Shemi is at

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Speaker 4: And you know, she she's shown us the beginning of

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Speaker 4: a career. And that's actually a brave thing to do because,

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Speaker 4: like I said, most people have the luxury of.

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Speaker 3: Doing it like behind.

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Speaker 4: Closed doors or you don't really see much of it,

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Speaker 3: I think she did fine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now, listen, I thought she was sounding fine too.

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Speaker 1: It was an opportunity for her and Britt to having

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Speaker 1: one on one. Brick kept a bobbing for another week.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Britt love the bob, thank you for

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Speaker 1: the extending it for another week's episode. Child, I'm a

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Speaker 1: happy camper. Shout out to Paris Chany for another styling

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Speaker 1: successful night.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to I saw Paris last night.

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Speaker 1: Oh good Paris Chase. So you guys know is the

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Speaker 1: stylist who was styling Kelly and Britt. So to Mia, Okay,

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Speaker 1: sometimes sometimes sometimes it is hard for me to watch

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Speaker 1: once in a while I'll feel a moment and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I break the fourth wall in my head. Shamia did

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Speaker 1: not want to talk to Britt after her performance. She did,

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Speaker 1: She did, I'm it's evident they told should be, which

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Speaker 1: nothing's wrong with that. You're doing a job. Shamia go

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Speaker 1: talk to Brett and she was like, really, after my

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Speaker 1: even I gotta talk. Well, she's here, we need to

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Speaker 1: We need to wrap this story line up, girl, Which

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Speaker 1: is the right thing to do. Wrap it up, Wrap

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Speaker 1: it up, wrap it up. But to see how reluctant

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Speaker 1: Shamia was Shamia. What's sort of like what happens when

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Speaker 1: that you moved on. Shout out to Claudia Jordan, Honey,

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Speaker 1: Claudia can take a joke. So to me, I was like,

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Speaker 1: thank you, man, I got Carlos.

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Speaker 3: I know you energy today he's so masculine. Today's crazy.

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Speaker 3: But what happened The voice went down, It's like laugh

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Speaker 3: and he was.

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Speaker 1: Like what.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, Carlos, look outfit. Okay, you're back, ye, I

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Speaker 3: see what's going on here?

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Speaker 1: Be alone? Okay. Look, So Smia is like this the

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Speaker 1: whole time, so we we you know, Grenada, you said

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Speaker 1: you said it. I don't what a brit Britt the

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Speaker 1: talk about it. There has been rumored based on interviews

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Speaker 1: the girls have done. I believe shoudn't be and Kelly specifically,

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Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, there's been conversations during press runs

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Speaker 1: don't want to apply the wrong label to anybody, let

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Speaker 1: alone a child. Some people said special needs, which I'm

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Speaker 1: There were conversations that Britt made a comment about Smilla's

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Speaker 1: what what what what I was, what I was thinking

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Speaker 1: And I was just like, if she's really sick, why

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Speaker 4: Hate when someone's insulting you and you say you coming

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Speaker 4: Shamiah did tell me that Britt did say something questioning

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Speaker 4: her allude to something like, well, was she really that sick?

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Speaker 4: If you were out here doing shots? She was trying

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Speaker 4: to give her an insult. She was trying to insult

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Speaker 4: then your reaction looks bigger, you know, like damn, why

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Speaker 4: that's my inside that I can. I know it's not

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I actually agree with you. I So, first

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Speaker 2: of all, it was definitely presented to the audience so far.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, as if Bridge made a

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Speaker 2: comment that was derogatory in reference to Shami as young

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Speaker 2: as daughter who we all know has challenges with her health.

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Speaker 2: She was born prematurely know the story, right, and we

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Speaker 2: So what we saw in that scene did not match

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Speaker 2: didn't hear her say anything about We thought that she

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Speaker 2: said something about Smia's youngest daughter, like a derogatory inst

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Speaker 2: about that child, and we didn't see that. Now, Also,

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Speaker 4: You can come for her singing, you come for her fashions,

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Speaker 3: So just leave that out. Just leave it out, Britt.

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Speaker 3: And you were the main.

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Speaker 4: One with your dramatic you know, get dramatic monologue. Bitch, Please,

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Speaker 4: Now we just throw that horrific performance out the window.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, I think that's the reason why I

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Speaker 2: It ain't nothing worse than you thought it was about

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Speaker 2: Number one, you ain't got no game if you're talking

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Speaker 2: It's a shame on us for fucking people who talked

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I rather a sneak, unexpected, backbreaking without me

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Speaker 3: Come, Brittany, don't play with us.

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Speaker 4: To quote my former co host, girl get off my

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Speaker 3: And okay, Carlos, okay, dunsin. They went and looked at

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, nobody did this weekend.

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Speaker 3: I went and looked at a high rise in downtown Dallas.

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Speaker 1: I can't afford that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, stop with the If you've given two fifty for

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Speaker 1: Chaine all that.

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Speaker 4: Do not try to stepos us. Do not go chasing

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Speaker 3: Stay in your meet like it's nothing wrong with that.

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Speaker 4: Everyone's so fucking fake on that show with this, we're

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Speaker 4: You're in no way, shape or form about to go

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Speaker 3: You're not, so why do you doing that.

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Speaker 4: You're underestimating the intelligence of your audience.

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Speaker 3: And it's so corny.

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Speaker 4: Like britt, if you didn't do all the other fucker,

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Speaker 3: You don't need to do that, Like we don't expect you.

432
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Speaker 3: If you're getting forty thousand for the season, we know

433
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 3: you're not getting a private jet. Sorry, neither am. I

434
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 3: I know better than you. I can't get one either.

435
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 4: I Billy can get on jet and I'll do the

436
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 4: little with to Vegas one way and a private jet.

437
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: They have.

438
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 4: That little four seater jet that's that four people. You

439
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 4: don't want to buy that jet, girl buy.

440
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 3: Don't go chasing financial waterfalls. Please stick to the rivers and.

441
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: The I'm gonna have r L work. I'm gonna have

442
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 1: r L work with you next maybe help the next child.

443
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.

444
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show. Okay, that'stin raw. Yeah,

445
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: what did you think about that scene?

446
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 3: And she couldn't even buy lunch? You're gonna get a jet?

447
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, oh, because you keep reminding me of thing

448
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 2: that I had forgotten in association with that private jet scene.

449
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 2: I'm reacting in real time. Sorry if my counting so

450
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 2: so listen, I thought it was I thought it was

451
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 2: out of place. I think a scene of her shopping

452
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 2: for a private jet. It is something that would have

453
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 2: like built her story as a character and like introduced

454
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 2: us to her. Right, So, like that belonged in the

455
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 2: beginning of the season, and scenes like that only work

456
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 2: when they actually purchased stuff. Think Teresa Judice. I hate

457
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 2: even bringing her up because her racist ass deported as

458
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: Danny DeVito looking as her husband just made a post

459
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 2: on Instagram sucking Donald Trump's Dick asking to be you know,

460
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 2: pardoned and be sent back to America. So fuck them

461
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 2: right now. However, I remember that scene on Real Housewives

462
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 2: of New Jersey when Teresa paid cash for all that furniture.

463
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 2: You know, we like seeing stuff like that. We like

464
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 2: seeing you mentioned it for when Kim Zosiak wrote that

465
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 2: check for the escalade. We like seeing people actually make

466
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: the big purchase. When Charre used to be at those

467
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 2: miscellaneous stores in the lynn Linox mall buying, you know,

468
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 2: those snake skin persons and stuff. We like seeing that.

469
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: So I thought it was oddly placed in the season

470
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 2: finale episode. It belonged like way earlier in the season.

471
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 2: And we only want to see it if you're driving

472
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 2: that jet down the turn act otherwise, you know. And

473
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: what did she say about her body? She was like,

474
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 2: I want to take advantage of this good body before

475
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: you put a baby in me. When they were in

476
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 2: the in the jet. Remember what did she say? It

477
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: was something he said.

478
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 1: Said that and then she mentioned baby oil. So I

479
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: don't know if y'all y'all caught that she did say that,

480
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: and then she mentioned baby oil, and it it was

481
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: jarring to me, and I was like, listen, we talked

482
00:26:55,600 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 1: about shady editors. I'm like, I'm a Dustin understand the

483
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: purpose of that scene. It lets you lasted for thirty seconds.

484
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: It wasn't it didn't move storyforward. I did not get it.

485
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: And I will say this, I agree with Claudia Dustin

486
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: as a producer. And I was there when Teresa purchased something.

487
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: I was there when when Kim Zoe Zad purchased the

488
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: called Big Papa to get the car zero dow baby cash,

489
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: zero doll baby off the lot, and and and not

490
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: only but to off the lot. She continued to film

491
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: with that car for two three seasons to let you

492
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,239
Speaker 1: know it's really hers. But I digress. I tell all

493
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: reality stars because I as a producer, you do sometimes

494
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: get pitched. Hey, I'm about to, you know, go shopping

495
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: for X, Y and Z. My team follows my rule,

496
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: which is we're not gonna follow a look see if

497
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: it's on a purchase at the end, because I don't.

498
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: I don't have time. Listen, I'm tell you, I'm gonna

499
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: tell you what happens. I don't have to for the

500
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: deal you made with the car dealership. I don't have

501
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 1: time for the deal you made with the jeweler. I

502
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: don't have a time to deal with the real estate

503
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: agent who you made a deal with for camera time, Like,

504
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: I know how this works. If you're not gonna purchase it,

505
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,479
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna see the transaction with the receipt up,

506
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: we're not filming it. And Dustin is right, and so

507
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: it's clauding in the sense of this. I liked it

508
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: was so crazy about britt idiots this. I started off

509
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: loving brit In the middle it was wonky on some

510
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: real but towards the end I've come back to like

511
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: her a great deal. What's unfortunate is I just feel

512
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: like it's sad as me that Brett felt the need

513
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: to go card shopping and PJ shopping because nobody cares

514
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: about that. Nobody cares about that. You are a beautiful

515
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: woman with a successful bob and for me, I wanted

516
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: her to really flourish as somebody that has staying power,

517
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: because it's one thing I tell reality stars who have

518
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: it tough in the beginning. I always say, just wait

519
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: it out, wait it out. And I do feel like

520
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: people are warming up to Britain now we obviously know

521
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: her fate spoiler alert, But it sad is me that

522
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: she felt the need to do a PJ shopping without

523
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: without a transaction happening at the end.

524
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 4: And listen, not to take away from her husband or actually,

525
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 4: you know what, I will even say her because.

526
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 3: She is married to someone that's wealthy.

527
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 4: And when you're married to someone, well, I'm assuming he is, right,

528
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 4: I have no reason to not believe that our husband

529
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 4: is a successful man. Right, But like, even if you

530
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 4: are and you have the money to go buy and

531
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Speaker 4: one like, why are you doing that? It's not really

532
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 4: your reality. It seems like the producers are like, yeah,

533
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 4: that would look fly, but if it's like you said, college,

534
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 4: it's not going to be ending in our actual purchase.

535
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 3: It kind of like sets you up for failure with the.

536
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 4: Fans because we're gonna be whatever happened to the car,

537
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 4: whatever happened to the plane, and then we are now

538
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 4: going to point out the shortcomings, like we all know

539
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 4: that you and your husband getting sued for not paying

540
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 4: that country club. We all know that, you know, like

541
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 4: these type of things doesn't really align with someone that

542
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 4: actually has disposable income to buy private jet, to buy

543
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,719
Speaker 4: a Rose Royce or whatever. Car they were looking at.

544
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 4: You know, I think that kind of stuff is like

545
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 4: when you put too much emphasis on those types of things.

546
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 4: I don't think that makes necessarily a good housewife. Yes,

547
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 4: people can sit here and say, well, you was only

548
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 4: all on season.

549
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: Listen.

550
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 4: I need to tell y'all this has nothing to do

551
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 4: with me and my time on there. I can still

552
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 4: be a viewer and have an opinion just like everybody

553
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 4: else in the comments.

554
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 3: I don't have to have been on there to have

555
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 3: common sense and to be able.

556
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 4: To make to form an opinion about this. It's just

557
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 4: like it falls flat because it's like reaching where we

558
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 4: would like you more, brit is getting to the origin

559
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 4: of some of your behaviors, Like why it's clear that

560
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 4: you're not a girl's girl, your issues with your family,

561
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 4: your fertility journey with your husband. Take us through that

562
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 4: like that would have made us like root for you

563
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 4: instead of like beat up. Not just like no one

564
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 4: wants to see like it just gives new money.

565
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 3: I'm just new to this.

566
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 4: Let me just show up that I can go making

567
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 4: a planet at a jet spot and look at a

568
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 4: plane before they open up the business for real.

569
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, that was the thing. Because even even

570
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: when we saw the scene where her family came to

571
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: the house.

572
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 3: You want to like it, don't you, but it was

573
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 3: still fell flat.

574
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: It felt well, I'll say this, it fell flat to me.

575
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: It fell flat and it fell rushed. And again these

576
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: aren't these aren't. Excuse me. I'm not gonna blame Brick

577
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: for that. I'm not gonna blame her for that. It

578
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: just this is the thing for me though. It's one

579
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: of those things where the reason why Angela Oakley is

580
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: arguably the MVP of the season is because every time

581
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: that woman came on screen, I believe every thing she

582
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: was doing. I believe everything she was saying. I have

583
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,719
Speaker 1: yet and we'll get to later tonight. I mean love

584
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: in an episode. I have yet to question anything that

585
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: Angela has said on camera. I literally haven't questioned nothing

586
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: she has said because she comes in often often authentic.

587
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 3: Herself.

588
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, journalists, you survived authentically.

589
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 3: Some journalism for some kids on how to say these words. Now, hey,

590
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 3: it's by it's.

591
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: My greed, energy, jews, whatever. Okay, thank you the a

592
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: word that is with the why thank you. So with

593
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: that being said, with that, big said the family scene,

594
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: I just it felt like the PJ shopping scene.

595
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 2: It just it makes sense to me, I was this

596
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 2: is the season finale scenes with their family. That's how

597
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: we get to know you outside of your interaction with

598
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 2: the other cast members. All that shit belongs. We don't

599
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 2: know none of them family members well enough to be

600
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 2: invested in the story. All of that shit belongs way

601
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 2: earlier in the season when we're getting to know her.

602
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 2: It all just felt too little too late, just the

603
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: same way that her sit down with Porscha and Cynthia

604
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 2: at her home felt too little too late. That shit

605
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: should have happened way earlier in the season. So you know,

606
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: that's why it felt disjoined it to me, I just

607
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: felt like this it was just completely out of place.

608
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 4: I agree, I think, and you know, as much as

609
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 4: I've been on her neck all season, Britain did become

610
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 4: more interesting and even looked even better, Like her looks came.

611
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 3: Together, she peeked the way incredible.

612
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, like towards the end, like if maybe things could

613
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 4: have been different for her how this happened early on?

614
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 4: But I think it was just way too many episodes

615
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 4: wasted her being a victim. Way too many episodes wasted

616
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 4: her Just every episode for like maybe four or five episodes,

617
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 4: was her overreacting to other Housewives, popping off, being rude,

618
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 4: doing this fake wealthing, showing us you clearly have never

619
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 4: really been in a country club, You've clearly never been

620
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 4: on a golf course, you've clearly never really been really

621
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 4: ready to buy a rolls or buy a jet, like

622
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,439
Speaker 4: all this fake shit. But like she was spicy towards

623
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 4: the end, like I think Grenada, she was starting to

624
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 4: show some more personality, and I think we ran out

625
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 4: a runway. Actually, I think maybe if we had maybe

626
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 4: like five more episodes, we probably maybe some of.

627
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 3: Us that don't really like her would have probably come

628
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 3: around because she.

629
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 4: Was actually giving something instead of this fake what I

630
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 4: think Housewives fans, it's like kind of insulting to the

631
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 4: UH fans. You know, Housewives fans been in it for

632
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 4: what sixteen seventeen seasons, Like they can spot fake storylines,

633
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 4: fake relationships, So it's kind of insulting to the fans

634
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 4: when you kind of try to pull a fast one,

635
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 4: like they're not gonna be able to see through it.

636
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 4: But yeah, I will say she definitely gain more interesting

637
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 4: and got more better looked everything better towards the end,

638
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 4: but now we're at the season finale and we got

639
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 4: this bullshit.

640
00:34:51,920 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah anyway, but yeah.

641
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: I do.

642
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 2: It's just sad to me controversial take here, right. They

643
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 2: should have taken the Kenya shit completely out of the season.

644
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 2: We should not have known any of that happened. We

645
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 2: never got that story resolved, we never found out anything else.

646
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 2: The season just moved on felt completely disjointed afterward. If

647
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 2: they were not going to keep if they weren't going

648
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 2: to remove Kenya from the entire season, they should have

649
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: taken out that part of the story and just shot

650
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: longer because that actually critically handicapped Britney's or Brits excuse

651
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 2: me performance as a housewife for her first season, because

652
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 2: that scandal, in that moment swallowed up eighty five percent

653
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 2: of her time on the show this season. That's why

654
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: we used to feel like we still don't know her.

655
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 2: That's why these last two episodes we felt like we

656
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: made some progress because we wasted the majority of our

657
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 2: time with her focusing on the ken and more scandal

658
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 2: with the posters, and god damn it, if they weren't

659
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 2: going to allow Kenya to stay on for the rest

660
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: of the season. And if they weren't going to tell

661
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 2: that story all the way through to completion, they should

662
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: have just omitted it completely because all they did was

663
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: handicapped Brick pissed us viewers off, remove Kenya from the show.

664
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 2: It just ruined everything, So why not either continue it

665
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: or just remove the whole thing. So I think a

666
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 2: lot of our disconnect with brit comes from that situation.

667
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 4: It's almost like she was set up, not necessarily on

668
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 4: purpose by production, but it's really a lose lose situation

669
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 4: for he like almost set up the fail because once

670
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 4: a newbie is kind of responsible, right, although it's you know,

671
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 4: Kenya had her part to playing this because what she

672
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 4: did was wrong, right, But she I'm saying, like how

673
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 4: it's going.

674
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 3: To be perceived that Rick got her up the show.

675
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 4: She's already going to have all of Kenya's fans and

676
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 4: people that are fans of the show that wanted her

677
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 4: on to be against her, the CALF members that went

678
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 4: to blame her, like, man, we had a great season

679
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 4: of Kenya was still here now because of you. So

680
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 4: she was kind of in a situation where it was

681
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 4: kind of hard to get out of that and win,

682
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

683
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 2: So it was impossible. It wasn't even kind of hard.

684
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 2: It was fucking impossible. Yeah, things ended up the way

685
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 2: that they went. I wish that, well, I don't know.

686
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 2: You can't speak for her because I don't know how

687
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 2: I would have felt if I was in that situation.

688
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 2: But I just wish Keny would have stayed on because

689
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: all of this would have made a lot more since

690
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 2: if we could have watched it work out or play out.

691
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 2: The interruption just ruined everything, so and it pissed everybody

692
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: off that wanted Kenya to participate. So we sitting here

693
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 2: with half a damn season, no resolve at the reunion,

694
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 2: know nothing. We don't know anything. We're just left to

695
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 2: just be like, oh, okay, we looked like Nannie when

696
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 2: she was walking in that party on what was that

697
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: season five? That's why we look as viewers, you know

698
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, That's how we look. So I don't know.

699
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: I just wish they would have told that differently. But

700
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 2: I'm not a producer on the show, nor am I,

701
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,280
Speaker 2: so who makes those decisions.

702
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: So this is a very interesting point. So rain drops

703
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: follow me with this really quickly. Then we'll get into

704
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: Angela and Phedra next. That's coming up next. But I

705
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: want to stop here for a second. I never thought

706
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: about that. I never ever thought about what Claudia and

707
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: Dustin are saying. Dustin brought up a good point, rain drops,

708
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: and I would love to get your thoughts in the chat.

709
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 2: Should ched you said what? I wish I could watch

710
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 2: the comments.

711
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 3: I'm looking at them that they're all fire today, they're

712
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 3: all fin.

713
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: It's just don't worry.

714
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 4: It's probably back because they become familiar sometimes set up.

715
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: They're actually listen, the rain drops are are good today? No,

716
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: but look well the rain jows talked the messy one. Okay, anyways,

717
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: rain drops, let us know the comments. Do y'all think

718
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: we should have seen what happened with your Kenyan bread?

719
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: Should Kenya moment have never been shown? When Kenya was

720
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 1: removed from the show. Should everything associated with Kenya should

721
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: have been edited out? I never thought about that. Would

722
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: it have done brit justice if we would have never

723
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: seen anything with Kenya? Would have done Kenya justice if

724
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: we would have never seen it? It's a really good question,

725
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: Claudie and Dustin that I never even thought about because

726
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: I am a producer and one thing about producer that

727
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: I was raised was you show the reality. You don't

728
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: you don't make you. I was always taught you don't editorialize.

729
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: I can say that, but authentically, okay, you don't editor

730
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: You don't editorialize your hands and shifting the narrative to

731
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: favor one or the other. You you show everything and

732
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: you let the audience decide. But what is so fascinating

733
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 1: is I've never thought about that, and I want to

734
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 1: spend some time thinking about it. Come back next week.

735
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: But rain drops, do y'all think they should have never

736
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: ever even showed Kenya's likeness in addition to that moment,

737
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: And would it have been better fit for the audience

738
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: to have seen Britain a different light? Good question.

739
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 4: It would have set bretting up to Britt up to

740
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 4: be more liked on the show. But like you mentioned earlier,

741
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 4: Dusin in Carlos, it already was leaked. It was leaked,

742
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 4: so there was no way around that, you know, So

743
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 4: they had a show. But I just think they made

744
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 4: a big mistake by I think the fumble was firing

745
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 4: Kenya and not firing Britt.

746
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 3: I think they should have.

747
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 4: It would have made for a huge season finale had

748
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 4: they had brought Kenya in at some point where they

749
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 4: could have sat down and worked it out. I mean,

750
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 4: there have been worse offenses on the show. People have

751
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 4: literally put hands on each other and beat people up

752
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 4: on this show.

753
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 3: And they were still there and go ahead, I'm sorry. Yeah,

754
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 3: And I just feel like it's just different rules for

755
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 3: different people.

756
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 4: And I just feel like if you're going to let

757
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 4: someone allow themselves to come back and redeem themselves from

758
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 4: a moment they may not be proud of when they

759
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 4: fought or snatched.

760
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 3: Somebody up, whatever, then allow Kenya that as well.

761
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: And it also would to.

762
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 4: Help brit out and we wouldn't all like not we

763
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 4: because it's not everybody, but there's a lot of people

764
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 4: that really can't stand brit right because of that. Like

765
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 4: we never really could get on the right track with

766
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 4: her because of that, and either like find a way,

767
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 4: but it was leaks, So yeah, I agree through Dustin.

768
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 4: I think that if they're going to like not have

769
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 4: her on there to defend herself and not have confessionals,

770
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 4: I think that's complete BS.

771
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 3: But then you show her like what two episodes that's all.

772
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 3: We got three episodes. That's crazy, So now we have

773
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 3: to we're left with what if the entire season.

774
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 4: And being out of brit it would have put them

775
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 4: both in better positions and they would have set themselves

776
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 4: up to be able.

777
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 3: To have Kenya back and Britt next season. And now

778
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 3: what do we have one? I don't like how they

779
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 3: handle it. They could have handled it a lot better,

780
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 3: I think.

781
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, And we can take like the fair this piece,

782
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 2: or even a disciplinary piece out of it and speak

783
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: merely from a perspective of storytelling. Right, it was completely disjointed,

784
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 2: and if we were going to abruptly in that story

785
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 2: right there and then never tell what happened next, or

786
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 2: never tell anything and have all this scuttle. But in

787
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: all these conversations circulating around this situation online, if we're

788
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 2: gonna ignore half of it, let's ignore the whole damn thing.

789
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 2: That's how I feel. And if not, if we're going

790
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 2: to follow the reality and tell the story, if being

791
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 2: that this incident did take place, and we're following the reality,

792
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 2: then Kenya should have never been removed. And I'm not

793
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: speaking from a place of whether or not the disciplinary

794
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 2: action was fair, I'm merely specifically speaking to the story.

795
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 2: It just doesn't make sense if you're gonna tell that

796
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: part of the story, continue it. Kenya's removal made no

797
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 2: goddamn sense whatsoever when it comes from a perspective of

798
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: the story being told on the show. It made no sense.

799
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 3: They could have left a lot of that out.

800
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: You know what I remembered.

801
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 4: I remember going on to Atlanta, and I was in

802
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 4: Atlanta and Kenya invited me to the opening of her salon.

803
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 3: And when I was there, when I saw what aired

804
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 3: on TV, that's not what happened when I was there.

805
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 4: So I'm thinking that night's episode never aired because they said, oh, boring,

806
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 4: not enough actions, so they ran it back. I'm thinking,

807
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 4: and what happened the second time? We need more drama

808
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 4: than Kenya does that and they got their drama. I

809
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 4: don't think they aired the first time with the one

810
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 4: I was at because I didn't see there was other

811
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 4: people there.

812
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 1: That way, they didn't They didn't air her hair salon

813
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: spot season fifteen now in an air, Okay, so that

814
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: didn't air. Yeah, but see the fifteen that didn't air,

815
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: and then season sixteen where we just watched, they aired

816
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: obviously what happened.

817
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 3: Oh I thought that was all in sixteen Okay, Oh yeah, no.

818
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 2: No, no, that okay, her interview with Carlos, she spoke

819
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 2: about that.

820
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: And she did, she did, and a lot of her,

821
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of Team Twerell felt that

822
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: she had to do something for it to make air. Again,

823
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: these are things Team a lot of Team troll have said.

824
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: Kenya has not said that, but it's a healthy debate.

825
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: But I wanted to bring that up because I just

826
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: never thought about that. It's an interesting take.

827
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 4: And if it was so egregious and so horrible what

828
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 4: happened at the opening where people had to get fired

829
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 4: and all kind of stuff, Bravo had every opportunity to

830
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 4: not wear it at all, and we would have not

831
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 4: have known it about it. They could have sat them

832
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 4: too down and said, hey, ken you you can't do that.

833
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 4: This is your warning, Britz were apologized and move on.

834
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 4: We would have never known where that didn't have to

835
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 4: be an episode. They chose to air that, and then

836
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 4: they had to do something because of it because they

837
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 4: aired it, and now there's a lawsuit, like they didn't

838
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 4: have to even air that at all. There's plenty of

839
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 4: things that happened on Love and Hip Hop and all

840
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 4: the other shows that would they gets to a point

841
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 4: where ooh, this could be a legal problem. They protect

842
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 4: the cast and they don't air it, and we never

843
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 4: it never sees the light of day. They didn't have

844
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 4: to air it, and we could have heard leaks allegedly right,

845
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 4: but they didn't have to air that.

846
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 3: They chose to air that.

847
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: So rain jows let us know to chat what you

848
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: guys start thinking. So the moment of the finale, which

849
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: I talked about this last week, how I as a producer,

850
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: I'd never like it when a random person becomes the

851
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: main story because it just it doesn't survive with me,

852
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 1: just based on how I was brought up in this

853
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: business of producing reality television. But nonetheless, we are here.

854
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: So the guy in question who last week made a

855
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: toast about Charles Oakley allegedly having another affair on Angela,

856
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: which Charles Oakley has admitted, I'm sorry. Angela has admitted

857
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: there was infidelity in their relationship. She also mentioned that

858
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: on my podcast that here last week, So the continuation happened.

859
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: I want to get into this though, I want to

860
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: get into this. I want to get into the scene.

861
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: The full scene that did not air, but we was

862
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: able to see ten seconds of it. So rain drops,

863
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: those aren't called a flashback. I want to teach y'all

864
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: something about production verbiage. Right when we saw a snippet

865
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:29,479
Speaker 1: of the scene between the guy, Angela and Drew where

866
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: Angela met with him in in front of him, they

867
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,479
Speaker 1: flashed to it, it's not called a flashback. We called

868
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: it a flash sideways, okay, because a flashback is a

869
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: scene you already saw before, whether it was season one

870
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: through ten. Those are flashbacks. When you watch a scene

871
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 1: that they flashed to that aired for like five seconds

872
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: that you've never seen, those are called flash sideways. It's

873
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: a scene, y'all we've never seen ever, but it's an

874
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: act contact to the scene that we're currently watching in

875
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: real time. Makes him saying that, okay.

876
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 2: Can answer you a question. Does it get on Does

877
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 2: it get on your nerves when you see people call

878
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 2: it a flashback?

879
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: I mean, because I'm a student, does the shut up

880
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: breaking down cause mama said, my brain drop? They want

881
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: to be educated at all times, So stop calling it

882
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 1: a flash back. No, because my rain drops, you ain't

883
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: gonna sound crazy like I do, not being able to

884
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: pronounce authentic whatever anyway, notification and notification, Whi's the rain gification?

885
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: Where's the rain drops? Say that this week in New

886
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: York Notification. Make sure y'all subscribe and hit the notification button. Okay,

887
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: I would have preferred to see that entire scene, And

888
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 1: the reason why I would have preferred to have seen

889
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: it is because I think for I could be alone.

890
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: For me, I think it needed context in terms of, Okay,

891
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: what did this guy say to her? How was Angela

892
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: able to extract this information? What was Juseph Dora's role

893
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: into all of this, and what occurred? I felt like

894
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: only showing some some snippets of it. I think it

895
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: left room for a big question mark. Perhaps Again, I'm

896
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: speaking for myself. I would have loved to see the

897
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: scene fully because I would have wanted to know how

898
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 1: Angela was able to supposedly get the guy to say

899
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: his name. We didn't see anything. We saw him flip

900
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: the phone, and we didn't see what was said on

901
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: on the on the on the on the phone. And

902
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was to add to the

903
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: mystery of it, but I would have preferred to have

904
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: seen that scene in full.

905
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't get what was happening. I'm like, am

906
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 3: I flow? Did I not?

907
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 4: Because I gotta see I've had like five percussions, so

908
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 4: my memory sometimes i'd be living my p I thought.

909
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 3: So I take these pills that I get on Amazon.

910
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:10,919
Speaker 3: They call uh.

911
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: Lion's made. If you're watching Claudia Jordan was a sponsorship deal, thank.

912
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 3: You, and it makes me sharper, right. I took him

913
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 3: last night, but I haven't been taking them lately.

914
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 4: So I was like, oh, I'm having a dumb moment,

915
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 4: like a you know, mouth breathing moment, Like I'm like,

916
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 4: I didn't get the drew this. I didn't get that

917
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 4: scene at all, and I'm like, it felt like I

918
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 4: was missing something y'all felt the So y'all felt the

919
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 4: same way took y'all missed something in that scene.

920
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm confused.

921
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, it was dumb as fuck. Let's just call

922
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 2: it what it is. It was stupid. The guy made

923
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 2: no sense. He he literally looked out of place, you

924
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. He looked like he had no

925
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 2: business being in that room, being a part of that

926
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 2: conversation with them, He's a complete stranger. They were using

927
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 2: general and generic, very vague names and terms. When they

928
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 2: asked him why and asked him to connect the dots,

929
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 2: he started making references to Phaser being a godfather, none

930
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,919
Speaker 2: of us. It made any fucking sense, and it felt

931
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 2: so remedial and insulting to watch. Actually, Carlos hit the

932
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 2: nail on the head one hundred percent. All the answers

933
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 2: that we were seeking as viewers existed in that conversation

934
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 2: between that guy and Drew and Angela. Was it Drew

935
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 2: or Kelly? Yeah, it was Drew because Kelly I can't

936
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,240
Speaker 2: remember what her connection was, but whatever, it was just dumb.

937
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 2: It had no It should not have been there. It

938
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 2: felt very lazy and stupid. And I did not enjoy

939
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 2: watching that section of the show. I did not. It

940
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 2: was very irritating for me. I hated everything about him

941
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 2: being in that scene. I hated everything about what he

942
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 2: was saying to those ladies. I hated everything about it.

943
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 2: Manufactured drama, manufactured ship like that never lands, well, it's

944
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 2: never entertaining. I hated it.

945
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 3: Damn ninety nine dollars.

946
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 2: Thank you.

947
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: One.

948
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 2: Shout out to one, Thank you one.

949
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 3: Detroy step close to getting us to Miami. Hey, Carlos,

950
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 3: if we go, I can fly myself down there. I

951
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:24,399
Speaker 3: get a buddy pad.

952
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: I'm a businessman. I would never have you fly yourself

953
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: on your on your own.

954
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 3: Dime for e go private. Can we call Britt and

955
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 3: borrow the jet?

956
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 4: No?

957
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: No, but anybody has a time share parament plane. Let

958
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 1: me know. Thank you, go ahead girl.

959
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 4: And then it like at first it had like credibility,

960
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 4: like oh, shoot, phatris at it again because we know

961
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 4: she's a liar, right, Like, can't even get her due date,

962
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 4: ride lies a love, the horrible wigs all that, like

963
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 4: you know I should It looked better on the show

964
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 4: last night. She looked good on What you Have Life,

965
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 4: But you know it was just like, oh I could

966
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 4: see her doing that because she is a known liar.

967
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 4: But then the more stuff that came out like it

968
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 4: seemed like almost like insulting, like June Bug, come.

969
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 3: On give us as I was like that apartment. I

970
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,879
Speaker 3: was like, Oh that's cringe. But who do you think?

971
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 3: Who do you think? Who do y'all really think said

972
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 3: that person? Do you think it was Fader?

973
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: Did it? Do you think it was Look, I'll say this.

974
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: I'll say this, and I'm being very honest for your job.

975
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: So this is my take on it. I'll stop by

976
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: saying this first because I want to I want to

977
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: do a whole like three sixty so that we all

978
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: can have information. We weren't able to see how Angela

979
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: was able to extract the information out of the guy

980
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: that she felt was proof that Fadra said it. We

981
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: weren't able to see that. That's number one. In my

982
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: interview with Angela Oakley, she was very adamant that Phaedra

983
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: did it. She said based on the connection between Phaedra's

984
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: brother or something. And she said in my interview with her,

985
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: so watching rain drops, I'm keeping it alive another week

986
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: before I drop another exclusive. She said that based on

987
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: the fact that she and Charles have people who love them,

988
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 1: and they didn't take that as a reality TV stick

989
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: they I'll say that she didn't say this. I took

990
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 1: it as they hire a private investigator to do an investigation,

991
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: and based on their private investigation, they found out information

992
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: about this guy. She gave us all to my interviews.

993
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: She said he has a lot to lose and she

994
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 1: confronted him with this information that she has and because

995
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: of all those things, there were a connection back to Athens, Georgia,

996
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: which is Fradr's hometown. This is all what Angela says.

997
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: So we had those two things right then when you

998
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 1: watched the show. The unfortunate part is this. I walked

999
00:53:55,880 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: away on being honest because you had Angela say, well, Kelly,

1000
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: while was that guy there? So I'm like, oh shit, okay,

1001
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: ready it's Kelly. Ikahoots like what's going on? Kelly denied

1002
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: did then Britt started saying it wasn't me. You saw

1003
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: Shaniyah and Kelly judge each other, so I'm like, do

1004
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 1: they know something that we don't know? Was it Britt? Right?

1005
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 1: And then you saw the guy come in saying it

1006
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: was Phedra. So the unfortunate part is this, And this

1007
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: is my opinion, Claudia and Dustin would love to get

1008
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: y'all take Carlos King Honestly, after if I if I

1009
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,439
Speaker 1: watch everything my own interview, if I watched the show

1010
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: and the and the and the ten second, what rain

1011
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: drops flash sideways we saw? I think it's debatable because

1012
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: and and that's the unfortunate part about what happened and

1013
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: why I never and I'm gonna keep saying this. I

1014
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: never allowed a stranger to enter my scene to do

1015
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: anything that that. That never happens on a Carlos King set.

1016
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm not having a round um, especially towards the end

1017
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: of the season, even have the opportunity to do that.

1018
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 1: And the unfortunate part is this, because he did that,

1019
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 1: and and lack of credibility based on the base on

1020
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: how he got there in the first place, you are

1021
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: left with a who done it?

1022
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 2: Still to me and it fucking pisses me off. And

1023
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 2: then second of all, when you put it down to

1024
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 2: who's lying, Phaser or Angela, we don't have a reason

1025
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 2: not to believe Angela, right, Faedra has not told the

1026
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 2: truth previously on this show, so we have more reason

1027
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 2: to believe that she would do it. But even with that,

1028
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 2: based on the facts that we were presented with, you know,

1029
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 2: it's a sloppy ass uh, horribly pieced together as story.

1030
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 2: When we are giving Phaedra some some credibility here right

1031
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 2: when we're like, well, I don't even sound like her,

1032
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. That's how you know this

1033
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,439
Speaker 2: is raggedy as hell, And I just hated I feel

1034
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 2: like it's very sloppy and very beneath this show. That's

1035
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 2: what I think, and I don't think Angela is lying,

1036
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 2: But I also don't think Fadra based on I'm not

1037
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 2: gonna say I don't think Fadri did that, but based

1038
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 2: on what they showed us and the reasons that they

1039
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 2: gave us to believe that Fadri did it, it doesn't

1040
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 2: feel like she did that. So it's just even more

1041
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 2: frustrating because we are left with or who done it?

1042
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 4: And it's like, yeah, like I agree, like we've had,

1043
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 4: Like Carl said earlier, I believed everything that Angela has said,

1044
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 4: Like she's never come off as unbelievable. I don't think

1045
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 4: she would go the entire season and do a gimmick

1046
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 4: at the very end where she would lose her entire credibility,

1047
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 4: Like you can pretty much take everything Andrew's been saying

1048
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 4: to the bank.

1049
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 3: But then it is weird that it would be in phasia.

1050
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 4: But then Fhaedri's a liar, So it does look like

1051
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 4: like if I was like, Okay, who would people believe

1052
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 4: would do something like that?

1053
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 3: Who's already kind of done something like this before.

1054
00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 4: Well, we can put it on Phaedra, but I will

1055
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 4: say that don't know if y'all call this on the

1056
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 4: scene with Faedri and Angela going back and forth, right,

1057
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 4: I don't know what Phaedria's issue with Angela is. From

1058
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 4: what I've seen, Angela has done nothing to Faedra, and

1059
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 4: Fada's hard on for Angela kind of reminded me of

1060
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 4: Season seven where Phaedra all of a sudden had a

1061
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 4: heart on for Demetria. Dmitria had done nothing to this woman.

1062
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 4: So I think there's certain people that phasier maybe if

1063
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 4: she wants their man, maybe or I don't know what

1064
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 4: it is, but the way she was like coming for

1065
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 4: Angela and in their argument where Angels trying to get

1066
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 4: to the bottom of supposedly Phaedra allegedly being the culprit

1067
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 4: in this story with Marcus, why does Faedro go low

1068
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 4: and say you went through foreclosure? It seemed like she

1069
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 4: was like went in that scene like I'm going to

1070
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 4: do whatever I can to discredit and embarrass Angela Oakley

1071
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 4: no matter what. Now, if you really didn't do it

1072
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 4: and you have no ill will to arge that, why

1073
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 4: don't you just stick with the topic at hand and say, hey,

1074
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 4: look me and you may not be cool, but I

1075
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 4: didn't do it.

1076
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 3: I know it looks like crazy, but I didn't. But

1077
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 3: to kind of bring up foreclosure, it.

1078
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 4: Seems like you was once again, I feel like her

1079
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 4: reason been scrambling and kind of lackluster and not really

1080
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 4: hitting into the entire season. And this is for the

1081
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 4: proof of her deteriorating reading skills to kind of bring

1082
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 4: up foreclosure in the middle of a scene about me

1083
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 4: and my husband, and then Angela was like that, ain't

1084
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 4: ot I already told the story myself, and she kind

1085
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 4: of got you got it back on track, but I

1086
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 4: just felt like, I don't.

1087
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 3: I think they're real.

1088
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 4: Where the real answers are is what is Phage's real

1089
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 4: issue with Angela Oakley? Because she kind of came in

1090
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 4: hot coming for a husband, alluding to things, and she

1091
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 4: does make it easier to believe she has something to

1092
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 4: do with it, but I don't. I'm not always sold

1093
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 4: to her, but I mean she's the one that has

1094
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 4: a problem with Angela.

1095
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 3: Unprovoked, I think, yeah.

1096
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 2: I agree, Why did you have that in the changer?

1097
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 2: Why did you have that in the clip in the chamber? Wow?

1098
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? And I think this, Yeah, and I think this.

1099
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: I still stand by this based on who Angela has

1100
00:58:56,560 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: presented herself to be this entire season. Angela is by

1101
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: far authentic, and I don't believe Angela is lying, right,

1102
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: So I want to say that I don't think Angel's

1103
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: lying based on what she was told. That's why we

1104
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: That's why you gotta have context, and that's why the

1105
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: unfortunate thing is we don't have context to work with.

1106
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: I do believe that Angela was told that it was Pedra.

1107
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: I do believe that she was told that right, based

1108
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: on what the guy said. I believe that Angela. I

1109
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: don't believe on one second Angela made off this up.

1110
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: I don't believe that for a second. I do believe

1111
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: Angela was told hey, it was her, and Angela got

1112
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 1: the information and then decided to confront it. Now, I

1113
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: think the set but this is this is the This

1114
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: is why it's still in limbo because it's one thing.

1115
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: It's one thing if a housewife said it that we

1116
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: that we watched over years or on this season, and

1117
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: I think the thing is when it's somebody we don't know,

1118
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 1: when it's somebody whose credibility we don't know, I think everybody,

1119
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: even Angela, has to understand that. The unfortunate part is

1120
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: we don't know this guy, and that's the reason why

1121
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: a lot of people are on Phaedra side, and there's

1122
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: a lot of people on Angela's side, because at the

1123
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: end of the day, the person who told Angela it

1124
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: was Phedra was somebody we just don't know. There's credibility

1125
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 1: we don't know. And I want to say that I

1126
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: don't think Angela's lying. I do believe her when she

1127
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: says I was told this, and I do believe Angela,

1128
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: who has money to Hi investigators, did what she had

1129
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: to do.

1130
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 4: Now.

1131
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 1: But that being said, we will see what happens at

1132
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: the reunion because now we're able to maybe get the

1133
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: full hope. I'm hoping we'll get the full story. But

1134
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: I think, once again, because it's a person we don't know,

1135
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: I now understand why it is a big question mark.

1136
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 4: And you know, it was really crazy bringing that guy

1137
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 4: in there, and he clearly was Mike, and we're like,

1138
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 4: who are you? And other in the words of Kennymore,

1139
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 4: who is this hoe?

1140
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 3: Who are you on this show? And we don't know you?

1141
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 4: And who listen, sorry to bus y'all's bubble in reality

1142
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 4: TV viewership land. When you see an event and it's

1143
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 4: a party, a club, that shit is closed to the public,

1144
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 4: there are no other people there that are not supposed

1145
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 4: to be there.

1146
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 3: There is never random people in a scene.

1147
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 4: It's very very rare that there's a restaurant that there's

1148
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 4: real customers in there. They may have people in there,

1149
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 4: but they have to make them all sign a release

1150
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 4: to be on camera.

1151
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 2: Okayll like, there's no way and to.

1152
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 1: Have a be to be Mike.

1153
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 4: You know, that was definitely someone that was brought in

1154
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 4: and was given an agenda to do that. And the

1155
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 4: fact that we don't know him, and then you know,

1156
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 4: the guy's name is Marcus and there's been some legal

1157
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 4: stuff about him. I got the you know, his rap

1158
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 4: sheet that he's you know, he's a I should allegedly offender. Okay,

1159
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 4: I do have this rap sheet that's out there. So

1160
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 4: he's now saying that Angela set it up, and Angela

1161
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 4: is now suing him for lying for defamation. So she's like,

1162
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 4: I'm suing you because now you're lying about me. So

1163
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 4: it's getting extremely messy. Now, Like that is definitely the

1164
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 4: latest on the story. So he's now turning on angel

1165
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 4: So first you said it was Phasia, now he thinks Angela.

1166
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 3: So which is it? Because your credibility is gone, like Marcus,

1167
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 3: which is it?

1168
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. I cannot, I cannot. That shit makes

1169
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 2: it so exhausting.

1170
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 4: Man.

1171
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 2: We don't have to do this to make this show

1172
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 2: good and interesting to watch. We just don't do it. Man,

1173
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 2: Come on, this is so fucking dumb and stupid, and

1174
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 2: now it's some stupid, stupid ass shit. It's spiraling into

1175
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 2: legal issues, wasting resources. This is as crazy as hell.

1176
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: Man.

1177
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 2: I really hate that because otherwise this season was interesting.

1178
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 3: But then Faeda did I will say this in Fhadria's defense. Hey,

1179
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 3: y'all clip this.

1180
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 4: In Fajia's defense, Angel did say that Fedra is the

1181
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 4: one that gave her his name and.

1182
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:12,959
Speaker 3: Said what he loved.

1183
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that.

1184
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 4: Confuses me, Like is that okay? When people lie, they

1185
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 4: usually give you a little bit of truth, right, or

1186
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 4: they act like they're your ally, Like hey girl, you

1187
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 4: know if I was, do you know he does live

1188
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 4: in the city or is she innocent here?

1189
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 3: And she really was like, oh, I've seen him around

1190
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 3: my city. I don't know what to believe.

1191
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 2: Now that's the part, Okay, No, I'm just saying we

1192
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 2: don't know what to believe because we all watched in

1193
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 2: season nine when they were in Hawaii and Candy had

1194
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 2: that emotional breakdown and she was looking at Faeda like, Faedra,

1195
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 2: you know, I don't never do nothing about no drugs

1196
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 2: or nothing. You know that, Why would they say that

1197
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 2: I Faedia' is still right there and lie right in

1198
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 2: her face and it acted as if she wasn't clear

1199
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 2: about what was going on. We sawry sat at the

1200
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 2: table and who said that moment and look as if

1201
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 2: she was just confused and asking who said it? When

1202
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 2: the whole time she knew what that conversation was about.

1203
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 2: So her calling Angela saying, hey, I actually do remember

1204
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 2: that guy. He's such and such, he's this, and that

1205
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 2: that wouldn't surprise me for her to do that and

1206
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 2: be already knowledgeable about who he is. And that's the

1207
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 2: sad part, right, is that we wouldn't necessarily put that

1208
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 2: past her. But even with that, even even with that,

1209
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 2: we still it's so ridiculous and so sloppily done that

1210
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,959
Speaker 2: we still are confused about where it came from even

1211
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 2: with you know, a call back to those moments that

1212
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 2: were not so positive for Faedra. We still don't know

1213
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 2: if it's the truth, and that's what's crazy to me.

1214
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 2: So that's how you know, this just simply doesn't belong

1215
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 2: on this show.

1216
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 3: So they could be she could be doing that to

1217
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 3: throw off throw people off the set like Noah, how

1218
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 3: could I be the one? I'm the one who gave

1219
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 3: her and people said, we don't know. So hey, question

1220
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 3: for YouTube.

1221
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 4: If it is revealed that really Phasia was the one,

1222
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 4: now this would be her second third fl off time

1223
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 4: with a major lie.

1224
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 3: Do you think Duslum asking you do.

1225
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 4: You think she should be brought back if because that's

1226
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 4: like you're fucking with the storyline. If that's true, and

1227
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 4: if it isn't, she should be vindicated and we will

1228
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 4: speak about it and give her a problem.

1229
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 3: She's innocent, she's innocent, we should say it.

1230
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 4: But if it's revealed that she really did do this,

1231
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 4: and paying outside people or having outside people coming out

1232
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 4: is so corny. We don't need these kind of curveballs.

1233
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 4: Do you think she should come back if that's the.

1234
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 2: Case, Yeah, because she's already here and at this point,

1235
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 2: this is where we're with the show. There's a lot

1236
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 2: of fans that really do like Phaedra, and we're really

1237
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 2: excited about her being back, and I think that that

1238
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 2: noise kind of outweighs the people who are like what

1239
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 2: I remember in season nine when she did this horrible

1240
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 2: ass shit, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, she

1241
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,919
Speaker 2: should stay, but there should be somebody there to kind

1242
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 2: of check that or balance that, right, And with the

1243
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 2: absence of someone like Kenya, with the absence of other

1244
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 2: people who kind of would of hell her accountable, right,

1245
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 2: it just goes unchecked and it just goes at further

1246
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 2: than it needs to go. So I mean, it depends

1247
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 2: on what the fans like and what they want.

1248
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 1: Yeah wow, yeah, so listen. I think it's one of

1249
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 1: those things where nothing was super concrete, And like I said,

1250
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 1: I think it's because it was a lot of things.

1251
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 1: This is a thing because they happened at the not

1252
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: even telling at the very end. A lot was thrown

1253
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 1: at us in this supercized episode. It was supersized and

1254
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 1: we still left thinking, like I want more because what

1255
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 1: is happening. But I think because so much was thrown

1256
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 1: at the audience. I'm not mad at the audience because

1257
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at me or for you know, listen,

1258
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 1: I'm always gonna be somebody that looks like the full

1259
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: picture if I'm basing every single thing like the audience

1260
01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 1: did off of that show. I mean that episode. I

1261
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 1: understand why the audience is divided. I understand it. I

1262
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 1: understand it. What I'm not divided on, child is Samia

1263
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: and brig getting into it again child, So I do

1264
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 1: want to talk about that before we moved to the

1265
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 1: last scene of the episode, Britt and Shami get into again.

1266
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 1: Shamia brought up Kenya feeling threatened with the gun and

1267
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 1: called Britt a whore. She also called her whore on

1268
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: the other scene as well, keep your clothes on. She

1269
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 1: also called her pill popper, which is the second time

1270
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:39,919
Speaker 1: we heard that reference. But I want to ask y'all

1271
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 1: this it has it has less to do with that

1272
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 1: scene because to me, that was just typical. Like yaan,

1273
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 1: I watched the finale also thinking this because again we

1274
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 1: know the end of the story when it comes to

1275
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 1: brit Edie. I Carlos King based on what I watched,

1276
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 1: because again I confirmed Britt did watch the episodes, she

1277
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 1: watched them all. I did affirm that Britt had her

1278
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: out there ready for the reunion. I don't understand why

1279
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 1: she decided not to go based on those variables.

1280
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:14,919
Speaker 2: I didn't.

1281
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 1: To me, there wasn't anything that I witnessed that warranted

1282
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 1: a no show at the Redunion.

1283
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 3: You shared worst episodes than these last two.

1284
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 4: If anything, you should have quit after like the third

1285
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 4: or fourth episode, not these, like this is when you

1286
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:29,679
Speaker 4: would like Sound to actually come into your own looking better,

1287
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 4: having more interesting scenes, and now is when you quit,

1288
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 4: like she should have came stunted, showed why should she

1289
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 4: be back next season and why I was the one

1290
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 4: that got rid of y'all's favorite. Well, not got rid

1291
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 4: of Ken, you get rid of herself, I would say.

1292
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 3: But you know, like.

1293
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 4: She just makes bad decisions. She makes bad decisions in

1294
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 4: her storyline with this whole experience. Really, she really fumbled

1295
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:52,640
Speaker 4: an opportunity.

1296
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 2: I think whoever, I'm sorry, go ahead, I mean it jumping.

1297
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 4: Front, Okay, no, no, we're into this with this conversation.

1298
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 4: I just feel like she's I don't know who, yeah,

1299
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 4: who's advising her? Because he just makes erradic bad decisions.

1300
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 2: That's what I think. I think that was someone in

1301
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 2: her ear advising her. I think that she I don't know,

1302
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 2: and I'm assuming all of this. I have no idea

1303
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 2: if this is true. I'm literally making this theory up right.

1304
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 2: But it seems to me that as soon as she

1305
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 2: began to entertain the idea of some sort of legal action,

1306
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 2: I think whoever she talked to about that advised her

1307
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 2: to exit the show. For that reason, I think that

1308
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 2: she had to look like she was stopping participation in

1309
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 2: the show because of what she was going to do

1310
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 2: legally next. That's the only thing that I could come

1311
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 2: up with, because otherwise there's no reason for her to

1312
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 2: abruptly end her participation in the show. Why wouldn't she

1313
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 2: come to the reunion to vindicate herself after being misunderstood

1314
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 2: all season? You know what I mean? It just doesn't

1315
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 2: make sense. And so I think the timing of her

1316
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 2: making thenouncement that she that that was not her in

1317
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 2: the alleged photos coinciding with the timing of her announcing

1318
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 2: her I don't think it was a lawsuit or whatever

1319
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 2: the legal action it was that she took against the network.

1320
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 2: I think the timing of that coinciding with the filming

1321
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 2: of the reunion. I think all of that kind of

1322
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 2: rolled right into each other, and it seems to me

1323
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 2: like she was advised to stop participating in the show.

1324
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 2: That's what That's the only plausible theory I could come

1325
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 2: up with.

1326
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:31,679
Speaker 3: But shot like a while ago. It was a while ago,

1327
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:32,759
Speaker 3: like last.

1328
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 2: Year, the reunion, you know what I'm saying, the reunion,

1329
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 2: the timing of the reunion being shot with when she

1330
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 2: announced that that wasn't her in the alleged photos, then

1331
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,639
Speaker 2: announced the legal action, and they were filming the reunion

1332
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 2: like right around that same time, in that same week.

1333
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:50,560
Speaker 2: I think that's why she ended up skipping it.

1334
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 4: I think keep saying that like if you have a lawsuit,

1335
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 4: saying you guys really made me look horrible with these

1336
01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 4: photos released of.

1337
01:10:58,400 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 3: Me, and then saying, but they weren't a me.

1338
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:02,640
Speaker 4: I know, her lawyer was probably like, YO, shut up,

1339
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 4: like don't say that, don't say anything, like we're trying

1340
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 4: to sit here and prove that you know, you were

1341
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 4: you know this revenge whatever, you know. I just she's

1342
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 4: making more mistakes, like even that's a mistake in a lawsuit,

1343
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 4: because if it wasn't you.

1344
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 3: Do we have gates?

1345
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's why all of that. It's listen all around.

1346
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 1: I'll say this about Briady, I really this is my

1347
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 1: opinion as a viewer. I would have liked to see

1348
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 1: her at the reunion to address some things. As a viewer,

1349
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 1: I didn't see anything these past couple of episodes to

1350
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:45,879
Speaker 1: not show up. If anything, I think she became likable

1351
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 1: towards the end, just based on what we are thinking

1352
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 1: and the audience is as well on social media. So look, look,

1353
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 1: I wish her the best whatever her endeavors provide for her.

1354
01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 1: But I will say is why now I'm talking to producers,

1355
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 1: is why tell all reality stars wait till the end

1356
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 1: if they hate you, now there may be some redemption.

1357
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 1: And also tell I tell reality stars this too, don't

1358
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 1: get a big hit when they like you in the beginning,

1359
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 1: because the table can turn towards the end. So you

1360
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 1: just got to ride that wave and just and just

1361
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 1: know that as long as I'm cool and I'm me,

1362
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 1: the rest would be history. Last topic of the day

1363
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 1: of the night is Porsche was shown back. I'm sorry,

1364
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 1: Porsche was in her house and we the audience got

1365
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 1: a chance to finally see it. What did y'all think

1366
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 1: of Porsche's home? Did it live up to what y'all

1367
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 1: thought it would? Love? What I think about the scene.

1368
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 3: Two things I want to say.

1369
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 4: I want to give Porsche props on that dress she

1370
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 4: had on at Angela Oakley's event, and.

1371
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 3: He looks bomb The dress was everything, and they honor her.

1372
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,640
Speaker 4: She got emotional and talking about her cousin, and I

1373
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 4: thought that was really nice and that listen, Porta doesn't

1374
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 4: disappoint when it comes to her, her clothes and her looks.

1375
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 4: That dress was so bombed, Like, I gotta get props.

1376
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 4: What props do she killed? That?

1377
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 3: The house look beautiful.

1378
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 4: I see why she called Ice and got Simon locked

1379
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 4: up so she can get her house back.

1380
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 3: I allegedly, I'm joking. I don't know what happened, but

1381
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 3: I would have fought for that house too. That house

1382
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:23,719
Speaker 3: look beautiful. It looked great.

1383
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 4: And her daughter running around the house, little richie black

1384
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 4: kid calls like you like to see I like to

1385
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 4: see that too.

1386
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,639
Speaker 3: I wasn't mad at it, like, hey, all is fair

1387
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 3: and love and war. And she ended up.

1388
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:35,639
Speaker 4: They went and filmed that after they was done being

1389
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:37,640
Speaker 4: wrapped with a season that is so patty. I know

1390
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 4: Simon was sitting in Nigeria waking it like she wasn't

1391
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 4: in my house.

1392
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, mad I can't really do

1393
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 3: a Nigerian accent, but I know he was mad as

1394
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 3: hell watching that. She was frolicking and she just you know,

1395
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 3: that was the moment where she's like, Nigga, I got

1396
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:57,640
Speaker 3: the house. I don't know who calls, not saying I

1397
01:13:57,680 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 3: don't know who called, but you there, I'm here.

1398
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 2: She literally, I'm with that. Whoever that was it just

1399
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 2: posted that comment. Whoever that was it just made that comment.

1400
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 2: I'm with that right there. That is literally what I'm

1401
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 2: trying to say. Anyway, that scene was hilarious to me.

1402
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 2: Number One that they went back on supports was like, shit,

1403
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:22,559
Speaker 2: we gone film in this house this season. I was rolling.

1404
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 2: Second of all, it's a big, pretty ass house we

1405
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:28,560
Speaker 2: saw back when she purchased it, and the video that

1406
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 2: accompanied the real estate listing had kind of gone viral

1407
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:33,759
Speaker 2: and we got a chance to virtually tour that house.

1408
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:37,560
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful fucking home and it was good to

1409
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 2: see them in the house. And I was laughing because

1410
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 2: it was a very audacious scene, right her and her

1411
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 2: mother all trapesing through that house and then getting to

1412
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 2: uh they clinking toasting glasses and shit and the freeze,

1413
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 2: framing it on Porsche with the glass rays as that

1414
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 2: informed the audience that Simon was detained and deported. All

1415
01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 2: of that. That was all intentional and it was definitely

1416
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 2: what I would like to call it last laugh for sure.

1417
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 3: So someone said it was creepy. They said Portia scene

1418
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 3: was creepy. Do you think it was creepy or she

1419
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 3: was just getting her gift? I mean, even though it

1420
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 3: is a temporary get back, because it.

1421
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 2: Was not creepy to me, No, whatever that means, wasn't

1422
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 2: need he said, whatever that means it was to me, No,

1423
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 2: it was funny.

1424
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 4: I'm no fan assignment, so I was okay with the

1425
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 4: you know, it was kind of funny actually, Like even

1426
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 4: though she may not be able to live there long

1427
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 4: term because you know, it got to be refined and

1428
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 4: all that stuff, and it's an expensive house.

1429
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 3: But listen, she got He didn't want her to film

1430
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:38,679
Speaker 3: in it at all. She got at least one scene.

1431
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, she did with her She had her mama

1432
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:44,759
Speaker 2: sitting right there clinking glasses.

1433
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,599
Speaker 4: Oh you know, Diane don't be there clinking the glass

1434
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 4: and you know, encouraging her daughter to go get it.

1435
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:55,600
Speaker 1: No. I thought it was a perfect bookend to this

1436
01:15:55,760 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 1: season because the first episode premiere, we saw Porsche say

1437
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:02,720
Speaker 1: to the audience I'm not able to film in my

1438
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 1: house because of X, Y and Z reasons. So to

1439
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 1: end the finale on us being in the house, listen,

1440
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 1: I think it was a link back from everybody. You

1441
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that, I think. I think I was,

1442
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 1: like it was. I literally chuckled because I we weren't

1443
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 1: we weren't teased that. So when you saw all of

1444
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 1: the like in cars of everybody, all the housewives whatever,

1445
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 1: ending to the season cards, I was surprised to see

1446
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 1: Porsche back in the house and us being not back

1447
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 1: in the house, us seeing Porsche being able to film

1448
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 1: in the house and do a little wink to the

1449
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 1: camera like we're in the house. I thought it was

1450
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:45,679
Speaker 1: a funny way of ending the season. I really enjoyed

1451
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 1: this season, and like I said, we do have three

1452
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 1: reunions to recap, which is going to be amazed. But

1453
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 1: shout out to everybody, listen, Yes, this has been fun.

1454
01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 2: It really has absolutely I enjoyed this season flaws and

1455
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 2: all personally, and I can't wait till next season. So

1456
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 2: good job, ladies.

1457
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 3: I want to say it's been fun. I know it's

1458
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 3: not over.

1459
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 4: We have a couple more episodes, but I hope there's

1460
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 4: a way or world that we can continue doing stuff together.

1461
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 4: I really enjoyed doing this with you guys, letting y'all

1462
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 4: let me come and play with y'all on y'all's platform.

1463
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 4: It's been really fun and something to look forward to

1464
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 4: every week. And I really have had a good time

1465
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 4: with y'all, rain drops.

1466
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 3: Thank you for the love.

1467
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 4: You know, I see some of the hate, but it's

1468
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 4: all good. I'm used to it, you know, when you

1469
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 4: were Battie, You're used to that.

1470
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 3: But I'm just like, yeah, yeah, but anyway, it's not enough.

1471
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 3: But it's been really fun. And I haven't watched the

1472
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 3: show since I left.

1473
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 4: I think I watched one episode, so kind of getting

1474
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 4: back into the Real Housewives bag and watching it, and

1475
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 4: it's been fun to like kind of analyze it from

1476
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 4: a different, you know, standpoint than just be on it,

1477
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 4: like just watching it as a viewer and not with

1478
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 4: any Oh you know, I remember that scene, no just

1479
01:17:58,240 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 4: watching it as.

1480
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 2: If you were like y'all, so yeah, I love it, Toma.

1481
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 2: We're gonna do Potomac and we're going to also do

1482
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 2: We're going to do a white one. We should do

1483
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 2: the new The Real Housewives of Rhode Island, the one

1484
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 2: that they're about to start, we should do and the

1485
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:16,879
Speaker 2: white mess.

1486
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 3: Andy Cohen, you motherfucking tried it.

1487
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 2: Okay, Rhode Island, r Island, Miss Rhode.

1488
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 3: Island right here, Okay, and that's fun. You many people

1489
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 3: hit me in my damns about that. I'm like, no,

1490
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 3: but again again.

1491
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 1: Saying that you should be on that show.

1492
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 3: I did see that, but I do live in Dallas.

1493
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 3: But you know, Carlos, there's always that show in Dallas

1494
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:43,559
Speaker 3: that I already sent you the deck for.

1495
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 1: That show. I don't like it. I loved it. I

1496
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 1: loved it.

1497
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 3: Rain dropped.

1498
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:57,560
Speaker 4: If you want to see Carlos King co produce a

1499
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 4: show with me and Dallas about this sire in Dallas.

1500
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 3: Because listen the way they when they did Housewives of Dallas,

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Speaker 3: they did not get it right. They had that one

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Speaker 3: black face, not one black woman.

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you something about the wealth, and not

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Speaker 4: just wealth, but this black woman that got it going

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Speaker 4: on with like the look, the relationships, the money, the

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Speaker 4: businesses that they started, the still trying to find loves,

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Speaker 4: people coming out of marriages, going into them.

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Speaker 3: There's a whole scene here. There's a goal line that

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Speaker 3: is untapped.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying no, the Dallas community is beautiful, like

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Speaker 1: Claudia during and her friends are, so let's send you

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Speaker 1: never know, So stay tuned and rain Dropsy, are you watching?

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Speaker 3: If Carlos doesn't want to do it, Tyler, are you wanting?

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Speaker 1: I will look into it again. But Claudia, Claudia doesn't

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Speaker 1: our back next week to give y'all recap Part one

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Speaker 1: of the Real Housewives up at Lanta Reunion. So you

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Speaker 1: will see us next week. Thank y'all, rain Drops, love

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Speaker 1: you guys, and we'll see y'all on the next one.

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,

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Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership with the Lack

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Speaker 1: Effect Network. You can also find us on my YouTube

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Speaker 1: channel at the Carlos King Underscore