1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 2: This is the BlueBag Day vi q At podcast. Good morning, 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: It's Friday, the seventh of November. I'm Caroline Hepcitt in 4 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: London and. 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: I'm Stephen Caroline Brussels. Coming up today, Tesla shareholders approve 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: Elon Musk's record breaking one trillion dollar pay packet. 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: Open Ai CEO Sam Altman rejects the need for government 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 2: bailouts as lofty tech valuations way on the market. 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: Plus global studies how the UK's VAT squeeze is driving 10 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: Britain's top private schools to chase new money overseas. 11 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: Let's start with a roundup of our top stories. 12 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: Tesla's shareholders have approved a one trillion dollar compensation package 13 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: for CEO Elon Musk. More than seventy five percent of 14 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: votes were cast in favor of the payout. It clears 15 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: a path from Musk to expand his take in Tesla 16 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: to twenty five percent over the next Decade's Bloomberg TeX's 17 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: Ed Ludlow. 18 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 3: For Elon Musk, this was about having more voting power 19 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 3: and voting control. And for those institutional investors that voted no, 20 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 3: they were worried about concentration of voting power that he 21 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 3: had and dilution for them. In the end, voters have 22 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 3: overwhelmingly come out seventy five percent of them or more 23 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 3: and said we're happy to hand over more control to 24 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 3: Elon Musk and keep him in the driver's seat to 25 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 3: realize these longer term goals in robotics in an autonomous. 26 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: Driving Bloomberg's ed Ludlow. To achieve the full payout, Moscow 27 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: will have to deliver on targets to significantly expand Tesla's 28 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: market value. The company's shares were a little changed in 29 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: thursday's postmarket trading. 30 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 2: Open AI's CEO Sam Altman says he doesn't want a 31 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: government bailout if the company's plans to spend one point 32 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: four trillion dollars on artificial intelligence go wrong. Writing on 33 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: social media, the boss of the world's most valuable startup 34 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: said he doesn't want government guarantees for its spending on 35 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,919 Speaker 2: data centers. It comes after open AI's CFO Sarah Fryer 36 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: hinted at a role for the US government to backstop 37 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: financing for Ai in an interview on Wednesday. The comments 38 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: come as investors grow increasingly concerned over stretched AI valuations. 39 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: Ven Ram is Bloomberg's cross asset strategists. 40 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 4: By now, it's kind of almost universally acknowledged that we 41 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 4: are margining steadily towards an equity bubble. BAC and P 42 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 4: five hundred is stating at twenty six times prospective earnings. 43 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 4: The Nasdaq hundred are staggering thirty two times. Those are 44 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 4: levels that are punitive and have seldom proved sustainable in 45 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 4: the past. The thing with this rally, the rally this year, 46 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 4: is that you know almost every investor knows it's all 47 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 4: going to turn into pumpkins and mice at midnight. Only, 48 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 4: as Buffett would say, no one in the room as 49 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 4: a clock. 50 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 2: Ben Ram speaking there as the tech heavy Nasdaq felt 51 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 2: almost four percent from its record at the end of 52 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 2: last month, but it's still up nearly twenty percent so 53 00:02:58,960 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: far this year. 54 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: Hungary's Prime Minister Victor Orban visits the White House later, 55 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: hoping his friendship with Donald Trump can spare his country 56 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: from US sanctions on Russian oil. Bloomberg's Micaul Cubala has more. 57 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 5: A year after cheering Donald Trump's re election, Victor Orban 58 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 5: is coming to Washington with the raft of offers and 59 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 5: a request the Hungarian Prime minister wants a reprieve from 60 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 5: US sanctions on Russian oil. They threatened to raise fuel 61 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 5: prices back home and deepen troubles ahead of next year's election. 62 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 5: In Exchange, sources told Bloomberg he is coming to the 63 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 5: White House with pledges to purchase American leg and nuclear 64 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 5: fuel to scramble for deal. Marks an ironic turn for Orban. 65 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 5: He once counted on his ties to Trump for political gain, 66 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 5: but is now in damage control mode as the US 67 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 5: President titans penalties on Moscow. In Brussels, Michal Kubala Bloomberg 68 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 5: radio him. 69 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 2: In the UK, the Bank of England has warned that 70 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: Chancellor Rachel Reeves will deliver her budget and made weak investment, 71 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: rising unemployment and slowing growth. Central Bank held interest rates 72 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: at four percent in a five to four vote that 73 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: laid the groundwork for a December cut. Yesterday, the Bank's Governor, 74 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: Andrew Bailey told Bloomberg that the UK's monetary policy still 75 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: remains restrictive for the moment now. 76 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 6: In August, I would say I was concerned more on 77 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 6: the upside risk, but I think the news that we've 78 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 6: had subsequent to that has left me an a more 79 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 6: balanced possessions. So that was very much my view. But 80 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 6: as I said, as I've said a number of times, 81 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 6: we do need to see more evidence because so far 82 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 6: we've had one inflation number that's come in, you know, 83 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 6: under what we've orderally obviously good, we need to say 84 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 6: some more. 85 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 2: That was the Bank of England Governor Andrew Bailey. He 86 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 2: went on to say that he is committed to serving 87 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: out his full eight year term as governor. His comments 88 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 2: came after afore UK Lee denied your Farage told bluebergs 89 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: Michelle Hussainin that the governor had had quote a. 90 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: Good run comcasts and talks to buy ITV's media and 91 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: entertainment units in a deal that could value the business 92 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: at around two billion dollars. The conglomerate already owns rival 93 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: broadcaster Skies pay television business in Europe. Bloomberg understands the 94 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: same advisors who worked on that deal seven years ago, 95 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: Morgan Stanley and Roby Warshaw, are currently advising ITV. If 96 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: the deal does go through, the acquisition would dramatically shake 97 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: up the UK broadcasting landscape. 98 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: Goldman Sachs is promoting the smallest proportion of women to 99 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: managing director level since the CEO, David Solomon took the 100 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: top job in twenty eighteen. Bloomberg's Ewen Potts has more Now. 101 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 7: Goldman Sachs says that women make up twenty seven percent 102 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 7: of their new managing director class. That's down from thirty 103 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 7: one percent in the last set of similar promotions back 104 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 7: in twenty twenty three. It also breaks a trend of 105 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 7: consistent growth since twenty seventeen. CEO David Solomon's made numerous 106 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 7: public pledges to advance women and improve inclusivity, telling Congress 107 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 7: in twenty nineteen that a core part of his tenure 108 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 7: would be defined by that goal. In total, the bank 109 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 7: promoted six hundred eight staff to managing director. That's the 110 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 7: highest number in four years. In London, I'm you and 111 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 7: Pot's Spoomberg Radio. 112 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: Those are your top stories on the markets this morning. 113 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: Eurostock's fifty futures up a tenth of one percent. The 114 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: mscis Your Pacific Index is down by nine tens of 115 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: one percent. The Nicka and Tokyo currently one point three 116 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: percent lower as well. Wall Street futures are higher three 117 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: tenths for SMP Mini futures this morning, the ten year 118 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: treasury yield up two basis points at four point one percent. 119 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 2: In a moment, we'll bring you more on that staggering 120 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 2: pay deal that Tesla investors have approved for Elon Masker, 121 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 2: though obviously some strings and goals attached. Plus a special 122 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 2: report on how British private schools moves to expand abroad 123 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: haven't always gone exactly to plan. But another story is 124 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: also caught ari this morning voting for next year's Oscars. 125 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:54,119 Speaker 2: It's not begun yet, but Bloomberg's Mark Ledorf has identified 126 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: some key titles to be watching out for. Will you 127 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 2: be watching any of these films, Stephen? 128 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to try to do better this year than 129 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: I have in previous years because I feel like I've 130 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: missed out on every important film over the past I 131 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: don't know, decades, so it may be time for me 132 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: to get back into it. The name that Mark says 133 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: to what is sentimental value? It's mostly in Norwegian. A 134 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: family drama about his family trying to figure out what 135 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: to do with the family home after their mother's death. 136 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: Sounds fascinating from the director Jokim Treer. Part of a 137 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: broader trend that Mark identifies of more top quality films 138 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: that aren't in English. 139 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 8: This is something that we've seen creeping. 140 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: Up through the oscars as well, you know, breaking out 141 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: of the international film category and into the mainstream as well. 142 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: And more productions being made in the US that are 143 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: multi lingual as well, think of Amelia Perez being one 144 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: recent example of those as well. You know, everything everywhere, 145 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: all at once, there's so many of them now we're 146 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: seeing more multi lingual versions and this Mark says it's 147 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: thanks to streamers. They're making more international content. People are 148 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: getting more used to reading subtitles, for example. 149 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 8: And this has me internally cheering. 150 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and maybe a bit of a stretch for me, 151 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: maybe for you also, Stephen, But no, you're right. I 152 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: think maybe this is one of the big unexpected benefits 153 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: of the streamers. You know, people sometimes are concerned about 154 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: the flattening of global culture and you know, everything sort 155 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: of being made for an international, global audience, but for 156 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: the streamers, largely in the US. But I think this 157 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 2: is the kind of unexpected benefit, isn't it that you 158 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: get to watch programs in all sorts of different languages. 159 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 8: Well, look, maybe it's a piercing of the anglosphere. 160 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: Maybe we're moving away from a position where you know, 161 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: only we only consume in English language cultures in English 162 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: language speaking countries, and certainly, as someone who've recently relocated 163 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: to an extremely multi lingual city where it's speaking two 164 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: languages is not enough. I think that it's, you know, 165 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: a great thing that we should all be excited about 166 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: expanding our cultural horizons. 167 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 2: Love it. We will put a link to that story 168 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: in our show notes. 169 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: Well, that's bringing more now on the story from Tesla 170 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: and the one trillion dollar pay package that was approved 171 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: for elon Moscar transport reporter Danny Lee joins us now 172 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: for more. Danny, more than seventy five percent of Tesla's 173 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: shareholders backed this. Was it an easy choice for them? 174 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 9: I think for the individual shareholders, clearly big fans of Musk, 175 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 9: these are the typical kind of retail shareholders overwhelmingly would 176 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 9: have supported. But we saw this huge campaign over many weeks, 177 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 9: obviously led by chair Robin Denholm, to get people to 178 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 9: support this, including institutional shareholders. Of course, we've seen a 179 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 9: lot of advisory firms recommend voting against this pay package, 180 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 9: this outsized pay package for el Musk so there has 181 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 9: been a lot of deliberation, particularly online campaigning, for large 182 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 9: firms who hold test a stock to vote in favor, 183 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 9: and ultimately what potentially looked like was going to be 184 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 9: a very narrow vote was an overwhelming victory or consensus 185 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 9: that el Musk should be given such a goal, such 186 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 9: a juicy carrot, in order to carry out what he 187 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 9: wants to transform Tesla. 188 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, you know, it's been quite a sort of 189 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: bruising exchange, hasn't it in some ways? But as you say, 190 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 2: Musk does have to achieve quite a hefty series of 191 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: benchmarks in order to get this money. Just talk us 192 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: through the goals and actually how achievable they look now? 193 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think that the word to describe all of 194 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 9: this is very dizzying. Dizzying because Tesla right now is 195 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 9: a one point five trillion company. Elil Musk has to 196 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 9: take that to eight ft eight point five trillion, and 197 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 9: the kind of series of operational milestones he has to 198 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 9: subsequently achieve. For example, the high end is a four 199 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 9: hundred billion dollar adjusted to profitability. That's such a crazy number. 200 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 9: But you know, these are kind of the stretch goals 201 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 9: that the border is. So he also has to deliver 202 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 9: twenty million vehicles, sell a million robots and robotaxis. So 203 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 9: these are all things which are obviously clearly designed to 204 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 9: be stretched and it's not going to be an easy task. 205 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 9: Is as Eil Musk has been given this kind of 206 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 9: free reign to do what he needs. But at the 207 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 9: end of the day, this one trillion doesn't really matter 208 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 9: for el Musks so much. He was obviously recently awarded 209 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 9: thirty billion dollars by the Tesla board, but ultimately he 210 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 9: wanted control more control over Tesla to pursue the kind 211 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 9: of what he thinks are very valuable pursuits for his 212 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 9: kind of dreams, his vision around artificial intelligence, driverless vehicles. 213 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 9: So he will effectively be able to double his stake 214 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 9: and have more control over Tesla. So this is probably 215 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 9: the most important thing for him. And yeah, now he 216 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 9: has the backing from an overwhelming level of shareholders. 217 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: And with that backing in place, then does that give 218 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: Elon Musk license to you know, tie in some of 219 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: his other businesses as well. There was some talk of 220 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: that around this shareholder vote too. 221 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 9: Oh absolutely, I think for for el Musk, you know, 222 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 9: given he wears many hats, and has many roles this, 223 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 9: you know, this is a huge mandate for him and 224 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 9: obviously for Musk on stage talking to shareholders overnight flow 225 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 9: to the idea of of listing more of his companies 226 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 9: as well. So all of this, all of these things 227 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 9: to tie together, you know, will ultimately make him a 228 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 9: more powerful person and might ultimately help Tesla as well 229 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 9: as you know, if all of the ecosystems that Elil 230 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 9: Musk touches just becomes ever more valuable. 231 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a very interesting story, Danny. Thank you so 232 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 2: much for explaining it to us. Our transport reporter Danny 233 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 2: Lee there on Tesla and the big new pay package 234 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 2: that Elon Musk could secure. Stay with us. More from 235 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 2: Bloomberg Day BAQUB coming up after this. The UK's two 236 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 2: five hundred private schools are under pressure, this after the 237 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: last year's tax increase on fees backed by the government. 238 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 2: Though a recent booming British schools opening branches abroad has 239 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 2: proven lucrative, but some of the expansions have come with 240 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: some unsavory business partners and the potential for reputational damage. 241 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 2: Blomb Bigs team added by joins us now with this story. 242 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: Tima why are these schools so keen on opening branches 243 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 2: abroad overseas well? 244 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 10: Quite frankly, a lot of them are looking for fresh 245 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 10: revenue streams. 246 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: In a lot of cases, these. 247 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 8: Schools are very prestigious. 248 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 10: They've got centuries old brands and now some of them 249 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 10: are looking to capitalize on that. And it's a sector 250 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 10: that's booming. We've seen a tripling of the number of 251 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 10: British school campuses opening abroad since twenty seventeen. It's up 252 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 10: from fifty one to one hundred and fifty one. And 253 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 10: in terms of profits they've also exploded recently. It's up 254 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 10: eighteen times over the last decade, reaching twenty nine million 255 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 10: pounds in the last academic year. And for private schools 256 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 10: with charitable status, as most of them do have in 257 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 10: the UK, they don't pay corporation tax on overseas earning, 258 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 10: so they're keeping a good proportion of this income. And 259 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 10: when you also couple that with the fact that most 260 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 10: British schools who open abroad work with foreign business partners 261 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 10: on the ground who are able to assume most of 262 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 10: the costs associated with launching, it does make for quite 263 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 10: an attractive opportunity. And there's also demand from the parents 264 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 10: abroad who otherwise would be sending their children overseas to 265 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 10: the UK. 266 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 8: This is a cheaper option. 267 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 10: It allows them to still access that British education but 268 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 10: on their doorstep, and crucially, it allows them to pay 269 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 10: the fees in their local currency, and that makes a 270 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 10: big difference when you do take into account exchange rates 271 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 10: and looking back to the UK perspective and the landscape 272 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 10: over here, you've got cost pressures tied to the government's 273 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 10: introduction of vat on school fees. You mentioned. Pupils are 274 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 10: leaving the system at an accelerated rate according to these 275 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 10: private schools, and there's high inflation. So you can begin 276 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 10: to see why setting up shop abroad does become attractive. 277 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: What are the risks, though, Tea, for these schools of 278 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: going into business with foreign partners. 279 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 10: Well, these are the sorts of institutions that have educated 280 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 10: prime ministers, for example. Some of them have brands that 281 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 10: are so strong they're almost sort of intertwined with the 282 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 10: Britain to identity and history, and so I think the 283 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 10: main risk here is denting that image, specifically through the 284 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 10: association with foreign business partners. In the story about this, 285 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 10: which is out on the terminal. This morning, we cover 286 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 10: several openings like Rugby School in Lagos, Nigeria this September. 287 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 10: That's a project that's been financed by a firm called 288 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 10: the Chaggery Group. Their founder has faced several controversies. Just 289 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 10: one example is that he had to pay one point 290 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 10: eight million dollars to resolve allegations that he and others 291 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 10: violated US election laws in twenty twenty one, and that's 292 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 10: according to the US Department of Justice. 293 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 8: There's also openings elsewhere. 294 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 10: For example, Harrow's School is due to opening New York soon, 295 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 10: and that's been backed by an Indian firm called Amite 296 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 10: Education Group. That group had one of its business school 297 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 10: licenses revoked by Indian regulators back in two thousand and five, 298 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 10: and since then they've also been heavily criticized by US 299 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 10: politicians about this upcoming New York opening. One of them 300 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 10: said they were really skeptical about Amiti's ability to educate 301 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 10: US students, just given its lack of track record in 302 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 10: the country. So with these business partners, I think schools 303 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 10: aren't just risking their reputations here, they're also risking the 304 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 10: trust of customers both abroad and in the UK who 305 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 10: are paying significant amounts of money to access that history 306 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 10: and what they believe is also a higher standard of education. 307 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 10: But perhaps what they don't expect is proximity to controversy, 308 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 10: especially through the foreign actors. 309 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: The thing I found interesting about your reporting and then 310 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 2: I didn't really know is how the UK government is 311 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 2: actually involved in the process when it comes to opening 312 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 2: these schools abroad. Yeah. 313 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 10: I mean it's been for some time now quite an 314 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 10: explicit strategy under Theresa May's government. The Department for Business 315 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 10: and Trade actually did have a document about their international 316 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 10: education strategy and as part of this they planned to 317 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 10: encourage private schools from the UK to access international opportunities 318 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 10: and they did this by connecting providers and investors, and 319 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 10: this is actually still the case. I've spoken to the 320 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 10: DBT and they told me that they still do help 321 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 10: to introduce those schools that are interested in growing abroad 322 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 10: to potential business partners. They did stress that they do 323 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 10: encourage the schools to undertake their own due diligence. In 324 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 10: the case of Rugby in Lagos, for example, that project 325 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 10: seems to have received at least the stamp of approval 326 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 10: from the British High commission They sent a delegation to 327 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 10: visit the campus over the summer, and the High Commissioner 328 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 10: described it as an outstanding example of UK Nigeria collaboration. 329 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 10: But the government is also supported by people on the ground, 330 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 10: often known as export champions, and they're volunteers who are 331 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 10: experienced UK exporters who support other businesses in their international 332 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 10: trade journeys. I spoke to one of those people for 333 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 10: this story who worked closely with the government on the 334 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 10: opening of several schools abroad recently, and so it definitely 335 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 10: seems like this is still a priority for the government. 336 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 10: And perhaps that's not surprising because increasing exports is something 337 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 10: the Chancellor has discussed and is already part of her 338 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 10: economic strategy, so it's likely we'll see the government continue 339 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 10: to be involved in this process. 340 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, really fascinating. Tiba Adabaio, thank you so much for 341 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 2: your reporting British private schools chase new money in New 342 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 2: York and Singapore. 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