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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast Our Adults and know what

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Speaker 1: Happens in Vegas follows you Home, Ah from Sin City,

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Speaker 1: the host of the two thousand two NFL Draft. It's

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Speaker 1: around the NFL. I'm Dan Hansas, joined by some heroes,

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler. Yes, we are at the big event.

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Speaker 1: Round one is in the books. And um, how you

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Speaker 1: boys feeling as we begin to dive in to what

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Speaker 1: was another hyper event eventful day in this offseason of

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Speaker 1: our league. I feel like that glow is gonna be

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Speaker 1: hanging off of you through security, through bag check, on

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Speaker 1: the plane, back to the house while you're coaching some

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Speaker 1: tea ball this weekend. Like it is a great time

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Speaker 1: to be a Jets fan, and as a Patriots fan.

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Speaker 1: They traded back to take someone that no one's ever

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Speaker 1: heard of, so it's based the same as usual. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you have a you do have a glow about you, Dan,

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Speaker 1: And I think you know this is a this is

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Speaker 1: something special because uh, you know, I do think that.

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Speaker 1: Not feel like we've said this twelve times during the

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Speaker 1: course of the show, but this does feel like a

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Speaker 1: new chapter for the Jets. No, it does, it does,

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Speaker 1: And um you I think I saw you genuinely enjoy

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Speaker 1: this evening. This was a real meat and potatoes event

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Speaker 1: for us. We've been up here at this daz Or

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Speaker 1: desk working hard all evening. I'm talking about It's true though,

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Speaker 1: two top picks come to the desk. We've never been

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Speaker 1: at a draft like this with a beautiful set uh

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Speaker 1: talk to them. And you gotta say, like Vegas was

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Speaker 1: perfect energy for the draft. And I think that this draft,

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Speaker 1: which everyone thought was gonna be boring and it was

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Speaker 1: like the worst draft since Luke Joko, had ended up

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Speaker 1: giving us a lot of juice. And it's like that

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Speaker 1: that draft was about two thirteen. The NFL has changed

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Speaker 1: so much since that draft and they saw it and

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Speaker 1: how things played out. Just teams are so much more

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Speaker 1: gung ho. Teams are willing to risk for reward in

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Speaker 1: ways that just wasn't the case a handful of years ago,

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Speaker 1: even a couple of years ago. Nine trades I believe

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Speaker 1: in the first round, including multiple first round UH top

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Speaker 1: rate wide receivers, including poor Grave Diggers favorite Titan perhaps

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Speaker 1: for one of them. And we're gonna get to all that,

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Speaker 1: I would say, but I'm sorry, Justin. We'll get to you, buddy.

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Speaker 1: But there's also some good news from the Graver camp.

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Speaker 1: We have so much to get to. But Greg, I'm

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Speaker 1: curious what you think was like the big story of today. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's that it's A J. Brown and it's not just

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Speaker 1: A J. Brown goes to the Eagles and immediately signs

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Speaker 1: a one million dollar contract, which was weird the timing

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Speaker 1: of it, and I'd love to get in to the

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Speaker 1: nitty gritty on that. When is that contract negotiated. It's

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Speaker 1: the idea that the this stuff works, that A. J.

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Speaker 1: Brown and his agent put this out there over the

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Speaker 1: last couple of weeks in the hopes of a possibility

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Speaker 1: the contract he wants and give the Titans the trade

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Speaker 1: terms that they want and and snuff it out before

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Speaker 1: a t And I think we've seen with the quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: and how they've controlled their destiny. Uh, in the last

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Speaker 1: offseason or two and been able to change teams. Now

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Speaker 1: we're seeing it with other positions, certainly wide receivers. And

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Speaker 1: for this to all come together that quickly, to me

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Speaker 1: is amazing and fascinating, and the Eagles have an amazing night. Well,

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Speaker 1: a run heavy attack that like essentially zigged when the

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Speaker 1: It's going to have to look differently. It's great news

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Speaker 1: for Jalen Hurts. And and if you're an Eagles fan,

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Speaker 1: you're loving the offseason plan here. You you like that

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Speaker 1: trade with the Saints, which made them better and made

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Speaker 1: I actually feel sad like with Justin Graver so close

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Speaker 1: there was no way that A J. Brown could get moved.

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Speaker 1: He thought this was all smoke screen. A lot of

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Speaker 1: a lot of Titans fans thought that it was media created,

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Speaker 1: sad moment. As a fan, I've started to rationalize the

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Speaker 1: he brought up almost immediately. Well he hasn't played a

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Speaker 1: full season. Well it was a solid thirty five minutes

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Speaker 1: still ultimately feel bad about it as like a fan

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Speaker 1: of the team, like I tweeted multiple times throughout last season,

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Speaker 1: A J. Brown was the Titans most valuable player on

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Speaker 1: offense when he came back for the Niners game on

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Speaker 1: And I mean, you like, it's like that old Family

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Speaker 1: And I think that's the Titan centric but like the yeah,

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson was not excited about the move at all.

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Speaker 1: social media scrubby right. He leaves the Ravens with Rashad

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Speaker 1: But and f bro, we traded away Hollywood. Uh, and

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Speaker 1: It's it's fascinating to see. But just to circle back

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Speaker 1: quickly on the Titans, there's a salary cap, and everyone

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Speaker 1: in America. But everyone has the idea that everyone's spending

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Speaker 1: But Titans fans, why why is the media keep talking

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Speaker 1: report over the last couple of weeks. And are they

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Speaker 1: gonna come back? Are they gonna come back and be like, whoops,

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Speaker 1: How does Mike Rabel feel about this? Where does Mike

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Speaker 1: Mike Rabel knows he's playing in a loaded a f

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Speaker 1: As long as I'm the coach here, I would I

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Speaker 1: would want to have a J. Brown on my football team.

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Speaker 1: I guess they. He said on Thursday night, just as

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Speaker 1: the entire process, but the gap was big. You know,

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Speaker 1: I assume he's talking about the finances. They just weren't

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Speaker 1: think Titans fans are obviously disappointed and how this played out.

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Speaker 1: And I hope this isn't a continued trend because that

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Speaker 1: save the Cabon conversation we had tonight. Uh, not an

427
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Speaker 1: hour after he was drafted to the New York Giants.

428
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 1: UM because it was a good one and it was

429
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Speaker 1: a banger, and and please stick around to the end

430
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Speaker 1: of tonight's episode, UH to hear it. But let's um

431
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 1: first talk about the pick for the Jets, and then

432
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,199
Speaker 1: we want to play our conversation with Sauce, which was

433
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:49,959
Speaker 1: really fun, at least for me as a Jets fan.

434
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 1: The Jets had a big night here. Obviously they take

435
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 1: Sauce Gardener, the cornerback that I talked about it. I

436
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: had sandwiches on it. I thought it really needed someone

437
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 1: in the back end of that secondary, uh, to help

438
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: Robert Salo with what they're trying to achieve. They were

439
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 1: picked on relentlessly in the secondary last year. They finished

440
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 1: thirtie in past defense cornerbacks had two interceptions all year.

441
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: And Gardners a dog. He's six three, He's built like

442
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: Antonio Crimardi. He gets the ball. He never had a

443
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: touchdown scored against him during his entire college career at

444
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: since he he is a guy that's gonna help that

445
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: back end. So I love that pick at four. And

446
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: then while we're here, the Jets attend go and get

447
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson, the wide receiver out of Ohio States. So

448
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: they get out of the deebo. Samuel Sweep steaks talking

449
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: to some sparrows high up in the realm here leading

450
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 1: up to tonight, and I was told that the Niners

451
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 1: were being unreasonable. That was the word that was used

452
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: in their trade demands for debo. So I think the

453
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: Jets had to move off that and go down the

454
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Speaker 1: road of Garrett Wilson. You guys thought your thoughts first

455
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Speaker 1: on Wilson and then on Sauce. I think we'll Wilson

456
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: was a guy struggled with watching all the young receivers.

457
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 1: He catches everything. I mean, you can see in his

458
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: movement that like he's an NFL receiver, but he won

459
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 1: a lot in college, like trying to be physical, and

460
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 1: he's not a big guy. But you would think about

461
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: the three receivers together, and that's more where I get excited.

462
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: Wilson doesn't necessarily need to be a true number one,

463
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: And I am probably wrong because people much smarter than me,

464
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: like Daniel Jeremiah, thought he was easily number one player,

465
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,719
Speaker 1: number one receiver in this draft and thinks he can

466
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: be a true one. But you don't need him to

467
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: be like you need him Corey Davis, UH analyze more

468
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 1: all to get it done. And they're really setting up

469
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Speaker 1: Zack Wilson for success because each of these guys can

470
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: get open quickly, I think on their routes and will

471
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Speaker 1: make it easier on Zack Wilson. And maybe you don't

472
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 1: need a one if you have three different guys all

473
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Speaker 1: around a thousand yards and and they signed c js

474
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Speaker 1: Alma and you've added You've added Wilson. And yes, you

475
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Speaker 1: said it was DJ's top wide out. Sauce was his

476
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: number one cornerback, and so you know, I know the

477
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: DJ's like the Jets drafts in the past, but there

478
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: is a plan forming here. I don't want to be

479
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: overly optimistic because all this stuff and goes south. But

480
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: I trust that Mike Lafleur and his offensive coaching staff

481
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: and the front office were married on the wide receiver

482
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 1: that they liked the most, and that the and that

483
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 1: Robert Sala and his staff found the cornerback that fell

484
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: to them fortuitously that they liked the most. And something

485
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: about this Jets draft, because we'll get to the other

486
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 1: player they got. Um really went about as well, that's

487
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: part of it, Johnson. This is the culmination of the

488
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: whole Joe Douglas thing. This was the point of getting

489
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: all those picks. This is this is the night, this

490
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: is the one that it's all about. It's got to work,

491
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: and it makes it should work. It should. I think

492
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: he's set them up well. Now, if these guys can

493
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 1: play at this level, we will see. And of course

494
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson continues to be the key to everything. If

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00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 1: he does not take a step forward, that none of

496
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: this is gonna work. But at the same time, what

497
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Speaker 1: they did with that, what they've done with Wilson is

498
00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: something they never did with Donald. Just actually surround him

499
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: with talent on the offensive side of the ball, a

500
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: better offensive line. There will be no excuses Zach Wilson

501
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 1: does not take a big leap forward speeds up his

502
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: timeline because it's not a three or four year plan.

503
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: That's what the league is like now. So your second

504
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 1: year you need to show that you are really the guy.

505
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: And I think with the sauce gardener thing, we're gonna

506
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: throw to him in a second. I and I'll let

507
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 1: you get your point in Greg Um. I think that

508
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: Um all the smoke screens that you hear in these

509
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,360
Speaker 1: draft conversations about, well, the Jets under solid don't think

510
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: they need an impact cornerback because they build their teams

511
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 1: in the front, like okay, and maybe Jeremy Johnson being

512
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 1: involved now helps in that end of things as well.

513
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 1: But you do need some big time guys in your secondary.

514
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 1: This is the NFL in two thousand twenty two, in

515
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 1: the a f C, where you have star quarterbacks and

516
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: wide receivers everywhere. He's a huge addition to that secondary. Yeah,

517
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: they tried that last year. They tried the like the

518
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 1: cheaper route and and that's what the forty Niners did

519
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 1: so well over the years. But you're not just gonna

520
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: be the forty Niners like that was their thing. They

521
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: got value out of it too, late round cornerbacks and

522
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 1: really were good at coaching them up. Uh. But you

523
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: know who also like worked well in that system, like

524
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,959
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman. And when I see Sauce Gardner, I think

525
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: of Richard Sherman. Just those long arms and so physical.

526
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: And even if this is a zone league where it's

527
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 1: a lot of small, short, shifty guys and it's covered

528
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: two and all that stuff, ultimately zone turns into man

529
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: at some point in in the middle of the down

530
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: and you're gonna need one guy like that on the boundary.

531
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: Like I, I love it. And I also noticed in

532
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: that Jermaine Johnson trade it was part of a a

533
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: trend of the night. These chips, these trades were cheap,

534
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: like the that old draft chart, at least because we

535
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: got so used to it, Like no one's using that

536
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: draft chart anymore. They moved up to the first round

537
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: and they they basically moved down. They gave up the

538
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: thirty overall pick and all they did was moved down

539
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 1: thirty spots in the third round and then give up

540
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: a fifth round pick. Like that was like a lot

541
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: of these trades where everyone was moving around in the

542
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: Minnesota trade too, like they were cheap, Like it wasn't

543
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: that hard to move up and down in this draft

544
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: if you wanted to, all right, So I was glowing

545
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: when Sauce Gardner sat down next. So it is here

546
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: is that conversation. Very excited to be joined by Sauce Gardner.

547
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: The new New York Jet has that feel, Sauce I

548
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: feel as a Jets fan, it feels damn good to

549
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: have you man if it was great, Man, I'm blessed

550
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: to be a Jet. You know, one of my favorite corners,

551
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: Drill Reeves, played there. You know, I know there are

552
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: those are big shoes to feel, but I'm looking forward

553
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: to it. Like you haven't even played a snap for

554
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 1: the Jets, And do you know how much joy you

555
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 1: have brought Jets fans, especially this one's sitting right here.

556
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: When the name was called, he was over there. I

557
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: don't I might have seen a tear in Dan's eyes.

558
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: He like he was he was fired up for well.

559
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: On on our podcast earlier this week, I said, Sauce

560
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: Gardner is the guy that they need a dog in

561
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: the back of that secondary in there, and now you're

562
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: here that the Jets secondary. They had many problems on

563
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: defense last year. Now they don't have any problems with

564
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: you here. But they were thirty in past defense last year.

565
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: I think they had three interceptions all year. And you're

566
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: the type of playmaker, a big dude as a Jet

567
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: spin you're any of Antonio Crimardi who was he played

568
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: alongside Reevous and was great. Like to me, I feel

569
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: like you are the solution in that back end. Do

570
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: you feel the same way I actually do. No. I

571
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: can't wait to get to New York and just be

572
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: a great teammate, show the guys the type of person

573
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: I am, the type of player I am. You know,

574
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm very competitive. I'm also a sponge. I like receiving

575
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: information from the vets, taking it all in. I never

576
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: feel like I'm too good for for other people. And

577
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: it's just a blessing to be able to bring so

578
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: much joy in New York. And I haven't even played yet.

579
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: You know, I am one of them guys that interact

580
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: with the fans, So I can't wait to get there,

581
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: to be able to spend a lot of time with them,

582
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: give back to the community. I'm looking forward to it.

583
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: You might not want to wear that sauce necklace out

584
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: with all the fans though, like the Times Square or

585
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: anything that Times Square has been cleaned up. I mean

586
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: sub Jets. Sub Jets fans are a little weird. But

587
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: for Dan, this is a romantic moment. I always wonder,

588
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: like when you're weird, you're at You're at a mountaintop

589
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: moment here, like do you ever think of like maybe

590
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: like a girl that dumped you in like middle school

591
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: and think to yourself. I own you tonight, this is this,

592
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: this is I'm on fire. You're good to check me

593
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,239
Speaker 1: out now, to think about me like I wouldn't never.

594
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: I was never the one getting dumped. Thank you, thank you, Mark.

595
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: That wouldn't be. I was never. I wouldn't quick to

596
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: get in the relationships staking his personal life. I don't

597
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: getting personal That's right. I think. Can you think of

598
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: some moments along the way maybe where maybe you didn't

599
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: get the offers that you wanted, or something going into college,

600
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: or something happened in your high school career in college

601
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: career where you didn't know whether you're gonna get to

602
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: this moment, and looking back on that, I mean I

603
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: always prayed for you know, in high school, I used to.

604
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: I came in playing receiver my freshman year. I was

605
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: like five eight one thirty. I was very, very small,

606
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: and I just prayed that God gave me an opportunity

607
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: and I knew I was gonna make the most out

608
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: of it. Gave me opportunity and made the most out

609
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: of it. Then I started getting the offers and got

610
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: in college. I was like the fourth uh person on

611
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: the depth chart in the cornerback group. Then I got

612
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: through in the fire versus UCF made the most out

613
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: of it. Then I became a starter, you know. Like

614
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: I said, I was the fourth on a dept chart

615
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: and now I'm the fourth where we're all picked. So

616
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: it was all, gosh, man, this is all history now

617
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: because we're coming out of the darkness. But you should

618
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: know if you don't, this is the history. Eleven straight

619
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: years for the Jets without a postseason appearance. We haven't

620
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: made it back to the Super Bowl since nineteen sixty

621
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: And I don't want to cut you off, but we're

622
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: not living in the past. You gotta make we gotta

623
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: make a chance of the future. Man. I feel like

624
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: I'm the solution. You know. We just got my guy,

625
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson. You know, I feel like he's also a big,

626
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: big solution. So I just can't wait for us to

627
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: get there and be able to be a great teammates.

628
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: Which one, so, guy, you wanna check the most in

629
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: practice here and that Now it's suddenly they're kind of

630
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,719
Speaker 1: loaded on the other side of the ball. With Garrett Wilson.

631
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: You gott Elijah More, you got Dave Corey Davis still there.

632
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: That's gonna be tough. At the end of the day,

633
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: we were all teammates and we all had the same goal.

634
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: But I'm competitive whoever lined up in front of me,

635
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: you know, I want to dominate. And when it comes

636
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: to practice, at the end of the day, I'm just

637
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: making my teammates better and they're gonna make me better.

638
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: That's what I'm looking forward to. And we've heard so

639
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: many times that you didn't allow a touchdown in your

640
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: college career there, Uh can you pull that off in

641
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: the NFL. I'd like to see that happen over the

642
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: next three years in New York. I mean I feel

643
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: like I can. You know. I like setting a realistic goals,

644
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: you know. Man, Luckily I always get always achieve them,

645
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: you know. So I'm gonna make sure I just keep

646
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: putting the work in, keep getting better and better, and

647
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: get more and more consistent with my technique, and it

648
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: should be the outcome. And I imagine the next few

649
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: days it's gonna be a lot of celebrating with friends

650
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: and family, which is well deserved. But then when I

651
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: imagine you turn your attention to your assignment, you're gonna

652
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: have Stephan Diggs in the division. You have Tyreek Hill

653
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: now on the division. The a f C is a

654
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: loaded landscape and wants you to try a little harder

655
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: when you play the Patriots too. That's I wouldn't mind

656
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: you embarrassing the Patriots in a primetime setting. And Bill Belichick, um,

657
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: how much when you look at that. The challenge of

658
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: now seeing these pros and especially where the a f

659
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: C is now, you're gonna be thrown right into fire

660
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: is the number one guy. Like I said, I'm used

661
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: to getting thrown in the fire. You know, I'm looking

662
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: forward to it. You know, this is I dreamed about.

663
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: I dreamed about going to an nf feel you know,

664
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: when you get in the NFL, everybody's good. I didn't

665
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: want to get here just to go against guys that's

666
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: not great. You're good at at receiver, you know. So

667
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: this is a lot, This is a lot dreamed for

668
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: and it's here. You couldn't have dreamed it was in Vegas. Yeah,

669
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,239
Speaker 1: you couldn't have dreamed it was in Vegas. Out on

670
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: the stage there. What does that feel? It feel great?

671
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: It feel great like walking across the stage, glancing at

672
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: the crowd and just seeing all the Jets fans so happy. Man,

673
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: uh man. It was great, sauce. Thank you so much,

674
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: uh for joining us here and best of luck. And

675
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: as a Jets fan, I speak for all Jets fans

676
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: that you're kind of with Zack Wilson and with Garrett Wilson.

677
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: Now a new tomorrow for the organization, and we're so

678
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: excited to see what you get. Is. I can't wait.

679
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,479
Speaker 1: All right, there we go, all right, there it was.

680
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: I was seeking out. Um. I don't know if you

681
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: could hear it, but I was because I'm excited. And

682
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: the Jermaine Johnson picked, by the way deep in the

683
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: first round, he was mocked uh in some places at

684
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,959
Speaker 1: number four to the Jets. So that's why they were

685
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: so eager to jump back in. Now the number five

686
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: pick cave on Thibodeau to the Giants. I think in general, um,

687
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: such a big night for New York football, which has

688
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: been so bad for several years now, Um, because that

689
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: guy is a big time player, Tiboeau. He addresses a

690
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: major need for the Giants. Right. We always talk about, oh,

691
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: the Jets haven't had a pass rusher since John Abraham.

692
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: Well the Giants haven't had one since they were winning

693
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: Super Bowls. And that's that's been a decade, and the

694
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: last three or four years, I would say their pass

695
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: rush has been among the very worst in the league.

696
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: And Thibodeau is known for his first step and I

697
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: really and I wanted to ask him, but we didn't

698
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: have all the time in the world. I'm always I'm

699
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: really impressed by guys who are growing up now in

700
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: this era and go from being a sixteen year old

701
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: that is nationally famous as the number one high school

702
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: recruiting the country and the pressure that comes with that,

703
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: and then going to his hometown or home state college

704
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: and and being such a big deal from that age

705
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: and trying to get this point. And he like did it.

706
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: Like that's about it. He's been a professional practically since

707
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: he was seventeen, and he's gotten it done. Like we

708
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: love his personality and everything, but he's produced. He's a

709
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: he's a great player. That's what they needed. He gets.

710
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: Shawn Merriman comps DJ talked about the fact that on

711
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: tape he looks off sides all the time because he's

712
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: so explosive, and it fills right, it fills a massive

713
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: need for the Giants because I think it was this

714
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: or offensive line for them the other thing though, while

715
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: we're on the Giants, I do think alongside alongside the Jets,

716
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: there's focus here and they're not putting up with a

717
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: lot Joe Shane and like Brian Dable, they basically they

718
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: passed on the fifth year option of Daniel Jones. He

719
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: is in hot water, he's got one. I mean, I

720
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: think he's not always adults with the Panthers should have

721
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: done last year with Sam Darnald, Like I don't think.

722
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: I don't think it it says anything or damages that

723
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: relationship Daniel Jones. I'm sure it sees it as a slight,

724
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: but that's okay. If he's a tough guy, if he

725
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: can handle the job, he thrives, he absolutely will be.

726
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: So I think that was the right move. And I

727
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: think Evan Neil at pick seven by the Giants was

728
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: another smart move. They really need to. They're they're a

729
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: team that has a lot of holes. So you you

730
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: improve your offensive line with the best offensive lineman in

731
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: the draft, you get a pass rusher in Thibodeau who

732
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: could be a real difference maker and a star UH

733
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: in that city and UH. In between those picks, it

734
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: was the Panthers Greg who take now not Ikey. I

735
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: was a little disappointed about this, but it's it's his call.

736
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: It's a Kim a kN Wu offensive tackle out of

737
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: NC States, So they stay out of the quarterback business. Yeah,

738
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: And I think that made sense that it was like

739
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: the worst offensive line along with the Dolphins in the

740
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: entire NFL last year, and they've been terrible both the

741
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: years that Matt rule has been there, and I just

742
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 1: don't think you can go off your board so crazy

743
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: to force a quarterback picking. Oh, by the way, they'll

744
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: be picking at the top of the second round and

745
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,439
Speaker 1: all those quarterbacks are still available except for one, So

746
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: I think they can still get their quarterback. They have

747
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: to feel good about that. Um, except don't have a

748
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: second round pick or a third round pick because they

749
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: gave him up in the terrible Sam Donald trade. So

750
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 1: I'm correcting myself live, but maybe they can trade. They're

751
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: so desperate. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they trade

752
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: a pick of next year to get back in and

753
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: try to get one of these guys. Uh. The last thing, though,

754
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: Evan Neil will play right tackle there Andrew Thomas left tackle.

755
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: They added two starters in Feliciano and Glinski like in

756
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: one offseason the Giants kind of they've flipped Thomas to write,

757
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: don't that makes some sense to he's I think just

758
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: the way that Neil's profile is, He's played a lot

759
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: of right tackle and he's like a little bit more

760
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: of a run. Thomas improved last season two. He wasn't

761
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: the raging disaster that he was before that. I mean,

762
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: I think you have to look at Baker Mayfield as

763
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: a true target for the Panthers to this point unless

764
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: like I don't you know, you know where I look

765
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 1: at him. I look at him Seattle because you know why,

766
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: because Mark Sessler's reporting was on point and it just

767
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: waves waves of aggregate reports on marks mock draft ten locks,

768
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: and it involved one of the locks of the ten

769
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: that we talked about on our podcast was Baker Mayfield

770
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: to the Seattle Seahawks for a fourth round pick bucket.

771
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: And that caught the eye of I believe which one

772
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: of those guys, Shannon Sharp, No, it was sharp and undisputed.

773
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: Undisputed with Shannon Sharp and that other guy skiskipaelis let's

774
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: listen in. According to one mock draft from NFL Network,

775
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: it's quote a luck that Baker has just settle Seahawks

776
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: in exchange for a fourth rounder, predicting Baker would be

777
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: traded right around the draft. So jump in here. What

778
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: do you think happens? Well, yeah, I think that's gonna

779
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 1: be the time. But I believe it when I see it. Skip. Um,

780
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: But it's not a bad deal. I don't trust any

781
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: of this. I don't. I'm not discounting the NFL Network report.

782
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: Don't you believe any of it? And I also think

783
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: this league is, of all the leagues, the worst victim

784
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: of what I all sheep think is famously a huge

785
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield fan, right, I mean, guys, I don't know.

786
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: The idea that this bubbled up as a report, um

787
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: is absurd because it started out being, you know, collected

788
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: from a Browns writer who I think simply said that

789
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: I thought it was a lock. But then it turns

790
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,479
Speaker 1: into a report, which is they did not do their homework.

791
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: Let's be real, Okay, NFL Network has at least eight

792
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: or nine different writers on staff. That is on the

793
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: mock draft central page, it's Bucky four point oh, it's

794
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: zero line five point oh. I think Charles Davis did

795
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: seven mock drafts. I'm making that up. Uh, Sessler's not

796
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: on that page. Well knows mock drafts they're not talking

797
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: about on national shows or on SI dot com, all

798
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: those guys, But they're talking about Sessler's. No, they're not,

799
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: because they didn't even mention my name in it. They

800
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: just said, I think it's like that. I view that

801
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: as a show of disrespect. Let's talk about the mock draft.

802
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick detour here, because of course we

803
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: had Josh and Norris from the Underdog Network on our show.

804
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: He had sixteen out of thirty two last year. We

805
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: set you over at eight and a half. Then Mark

806
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: comes in with his mock and we set up a

807
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: big showdown between Norris and Cessler. And let's check in

808
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: with Grave Digger. Where did we come down after round one?

809
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 1: What were the final numbers the tally? So Josh correctly

810
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: paired five players with the team that selected them. Mark

811
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: also correctly paired five players with the teams that selected them,

812
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: so five to five, five five, So bang the under

813
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: they both And that's that's quite a fall from grace

814
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: for Josh who goes from sixteen to five. But that's

815
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: the nature of the game, and we predicted that that

816
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: was a possibility. I mean five for me is not

817
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: a fall from grace, because I think that's I got

818
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: like four a year ago. So it was tough to

819
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: watch because market his first two it was and like

820
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 1: a Brown's game, he he just gets very confident when

821
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: things are going well, and then immediately I didn't hold

822
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: on Greg. I'm saying you're feeling good when it was

823
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: going well, and then when it come on Walker and

824
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson is like probably the two that almost everyone got.

825
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 1: Like I wasn't prancing around. There was one pretty funny

826
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: line that you had when things started to go sideways early,

827
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: and if anything, I thought it was hyper fatalistic. I

828
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 1: don't know that he was just doing it for entertainment. Anyways.

829
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: Well you had said that, oh, yeah, that this is

830
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: Josh's profession. Well no, because I am not a draft Nick.

831
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: So I just like I came in, you know, and

832
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: we're building your brand. Don't say that you're the one.

833
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: I think we may have a real draft Nick. That's yea.

834
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 1: So it turns out though, and we need to check

835
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: the data on this and to see who had the

836
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 1: highest number of hits and it was a very difficult

837
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: draft for any mocker, but Grave Digger on what was

838
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: otherwise one of the worst days of his life with

839
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: A J. Brown being sent out of his life forever. Uh,

840
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 1: he did hit ten in a draft that featured nine trades,

841
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: which means it's almost impossible to hit double digits with

842
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: and yet you did it. So congratulations. So does that

843
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: take some of the pain off what has happened to

844
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: you today? It's cool you were loving it though. You

845
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: were seven out of nine at one point when you

846
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: hit Drake London to the Falcons and Charles Cross to

847
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: the Seahawks back to back, which were not picks that

848
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: were on too many mos. You you were feeling yourself

849
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: as you should. You basically did what Josh Norris did

850
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: a year ago out of the gate, right, Yeah, not bad.

851
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: I don't know. You're the champro you got the strap. Now.

852
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,479
Speaker 1: I'd love to see the grades across of everyone's mock as.

853
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: We'll take that up, we'll dig that up and we'll

854
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: talk about it. You need because they'll call those and

855
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: then they'll put out their list. You've got to get

856
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: on that list, right, Who do I talk to tweet

857
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: at me, tell me who to talk to at Titans

858
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: Silver Josh Norris. Um A. Norris would probably know, and

859
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure he'd be happy to help. And but just

860
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: cycling back to Mayfield yet, does seem like there's a

861
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:14,439
Speaker 1: runway there now? Uh, certainly for the Panthers. But we'll see,

862
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: we gotta see. I think that happens on Saturday, and

863
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: I think I think he'll be a Panther. But I

864
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: think he'll be on one of those two teams Saturday.

865
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 1: And I think you predicted for a fourth round pick

866
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: in that report that was to the Seahawks. I feel

867
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,479
Speaker 1: like that's about right, maybe a fifth. If he goes

868
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: somewhere in that Panthers for fourth, you got half credit.

869
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: That's according to Skip Bayliss. That's just sheep, sheep brain thinking.

870
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 1: So I don't know, all right, Charles Cross, the tackle

871
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: from Mississippi State, goes to the Seahawks at nine. Uh,

872
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: so they opt to go with offensive line help. That

873
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 1: makes sense there, Chris A Lovey. Uh, the wide receiver

874
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,439
Speaker 1: one of the six that came off the board. Here

875
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: comes the run now, we talked about it, Drake London

876
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: at eight. Um Garrett Wilson to the Jets at ten,

877
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: Chris a Lobby to the Saints at eleven, and then

878
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: Jamison Williams to the Lines at twelve. So the Lions

879
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: pick it too. They get the hometown kid, Hutchinson, and

880
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: then they move up to twelve and everyone thinks it's

881
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: Malik Willis, but Greggy, it's Jamison Williams, a wide receivers

882
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: rehabbing from a torn a c l But people are

883
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: in love with his ability. Yeah, Hey, he's my number

884
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: one wide receiver and well that it is. He He

885
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: can move at a speed that just so few humans

886
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: can move at. I mean, he's very much in the

887
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: Will Fuller type of mode. And yet when you watch

888
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: him run routes like he can, he can change his

889
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 1: pace up a little bit, slow down, uh, and really

890
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: getting in and out of his breaks in a way

891
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: that most people that fast can't. And so I think

892
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: his upside is higher uh than Drake Lendon. Look, we

893
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: loved having Drake on the show. I think we're gonna

894
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: share some of that interview on Saturday's show. But to me,

895
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: he seems more like a uh possession receiver that's gonna

896
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: make plays after the catch Garrett Wilson's great Chris Olavvy

897
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: I think makes a lot of sense for the Saints.

898
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: But I love what the Lions did because they didn't

899
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: even have to give up too much to get up

900
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 1: to twelve. And if I'm a Vikings fan, I almost

901
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: think that the Vikings were so determined to trade down

902
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: and get extra picks because that's kind of what they

903
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: want to do now and and they're rebuilding that they

904
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: didn't really get get great value. And wouldn't it be

905
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: great to just have Jamison Williams on your teams from

906
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson. Can't you picture it now? Mark the Hard

907
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: Knocks training montage montage of Jamison Williams uh rehab in

908
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: that knee and then the interview about how excited he

909
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: is about making a difference on this team because he's

910
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: not going to be a September and October contributor more

911
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: than likely. Although you never know what these rehabs they

912
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: go so well now, but for a team that is

913
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: not in wind now mode, that's okay. You just get

914
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 1: him right and then you get plenty of times to

915
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: give him reps. I can visualize that, and I mean

916
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: I I you know, I don't think many people thought

917
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: that when the Lions were trading back into where they

918
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: did that it was necessarily wide receiver. I thought it

919
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: might be Malik Willis. I really did, And like, uh,

920
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: you know, you asked big storylines out of the gate,

921
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: and I'll just say it quick to the idea that

922
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 1: Malik Willis went nowhere tonight. Um isn't a stunner because

923
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: there were just as many reports saying that none of

924
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks might be first rounders. But I find it

925
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 1: interesting that no one jumped on him. That it showed

926
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 1: a fair lack of desperation by any of these teams,

927
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: and someone's gonna get them in a round two, right.

928
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay traded out We'll get to that, but they

929
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: traded out of twenty seven to the Jaguars to get

930
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: the first pick of the second round. And you do

931
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: wonder if Tampa Bay's gonna it's interested in some good

932
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: offers for a team that might want to climb up

933
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: a little bit to to get Malik Willis. I found

934
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: that the Saints trading up with Washington to take Chris

935
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: and Lave just so typical, Like I just love the

936
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: draft in the way that different teams attack it so differently,

937
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: and the Saints get convinced that they've got their guy

938
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: and they're just gonna be right about him. Let's trade.

939
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: Let's trade to first for Marcus Davenport. Let's trade the

940
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: first next year to get into this first round and

941
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: then trade up again. Uh, with Washington giving up the

942
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: picks in the draft, I mean that's a decent pick

943
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 1: to move up five spots and get a Lava. And again,

944
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: I think it's about the Saints looking at this year

945
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: and saying we want to win right now. Because if

946
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: I had to pick who's gonna lead all rookie receivers

947
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 1: in yards, I think Chris O Lava is a solid

948
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: favorite because he just is such. He's in transition to

949
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: the NFL. You see him go on a stop route,

950
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: and just the way he can go from running full

951
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: speed to stopping on a dime like that just translates.

952
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: He's gonna catch eight nine yard passes like at his best,

953
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: he might be like a poor man's Marvin Harrison type

954
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: of player. He's never gonna make any plays after the catch,

955
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: but he's gonna catch a ton of balls. He's been

956
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: described as buttery, smooth and I'm with you. I think

957
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: the Saints when they made the trade with the Eagles

958
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 1: pad and absolutely what I want to cut that. There's

959
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 1: something about you said. He's been described as buttery smooth,

960
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: as very like Tom Broke in my research. That's what

961
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: I That was something as it was, it was one

962
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: of many reams of it was that I didn't come

963
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: up with that on my own, like when you were

964
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: doing your mock. Oh yeah, he's buttery smooth underlined buttery

965
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: smooth mode of operation was the line that I discovered

966
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: about him. Yet another Ohio State guy with Michael Michael

967
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: is the winner there. Suddenly you don't look like such

968
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: a bad receiver group. And they also, while we're talking Saints,

969
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: you know, filled in their tackle need at nineteen with

970
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: Trevor Penning. So I think, uh everyone, by the way,

971
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: two of the mocked picks that I nailed and so

972
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: did so did Grave. I believe we both nail is

973
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:40,959
Speaker 1: because they had been a lot of people have talked

974
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: about a Laby and Penning to the Saints, and it

975
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: just seemed like they knew what they wanted and they

976
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: went and got it. Where some teams will get to

977
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: in the NFC, Super Bowl contenders seemed to sit home

978
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: and do very little, and there are some fan bases

979
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: that are very unhappy about it. All right, let's now

980
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: move on through the middle part of the round. Uh

981
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 1: Jordan David set out of Georgia goes to the Eagles.

982
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton's Notre Dame safety. He ends up at fourteen,

983
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: So that's kind of where his stock, at least in

984
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 1: ahead of the Mocalypse had him ending up in this area.

985
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: And he didn't seem overly enthused as he came out

986
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: to meet Roger on stage. You wonder if he really

987
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: thought he could be a top five pick as many

988
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: initially believed he could be. Uh. So he goes to

989
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: the Ravens. That's a good fit, though, I think it's

990
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: a great fit. It's such a Ravens pick. Yeah, I'm

991
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: like Greg and I were sitting here. Everything the Ravens

992
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: did tonight just felt so Baltimore esque. I mean, Kyle him.

993
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: They have Marcus Williams, they have Chuck Clark, but Kyle

994
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: Hamilton's the kind of guy, the groom, who'll probably be

995
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: an All Pro type player. And this is someone that

996
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: you know, when all this business started, he was the

997
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: guy that was gonna go to the Jets. He was

998
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: a top four type dude that fell probably because of

999
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 1: positional value in general, and right into the Ravens lap,

1000
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: which seems to happen every single year. Well that it

1001
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: is funny. I feel like that's a trope of this podcast.

1002
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: We most Ravens moves. It's like, oh, that's such a

1003
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: Ravens move. But they do have an organizational philosophy where

1004
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: these things kind of check out. I'm very weed. Yeah,

1005
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: that's so raven I still the one philosophy I don't

1006
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: know what's going on is on the offensive side of

1007
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: the ball and how they intend to better at wide receiver.

1008
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: Even though I'm not a huge Hollywood Brown fan, I

1009
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: don't know. You know, Mark Andrews is there and you

1010
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: have a Shot Bateman the first round pick last year.

1011
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: But man that I don't know, scoring points is gonna

1012
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: be that easy for that team. But you never know.

1013
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: They gotta get back to running the ball. Yeah. Cynthia

1014
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: Freeland pointed out the Ravens got her models number two

1015
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: overall prospect, Kyle Hamilton's at fourteen, and her number nine

1016
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: overall prospect Linder Bomb Tyler Linder Bom at twenty five,

1017
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,479
Speaker 1: linder Bomb. There was a guy a lot of people

1018
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: felt like, was this almost like the most surefire He's

1019
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: gonna be a great starter in this draft, and he

1020
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: just fell because he's a smaller center and people just

1021
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: don't get that into smaller centers. But it's like the

1022
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 1: Eagles did with Travil Jason Kelsey. You surround a smaller

1023
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: center with two huge, hulking guards which the Ravens have,

1024
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: and suddenly, like you're cooking, he fits so well in

1025
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: that offense. Uh that they did improve their offense there

1026
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: with the center, but I think they were probably gonna

1027
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: take Jordan Davis at fourteen. And I do want to

1028
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: just point out, like the Eagles are a fun team

1029
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: to follow. I don't know if it all works, but

1030
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: I get why the dorks like me like what they

1031
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: do because they stack all these picks. They get the

1032
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: pick in the Carson Wentz trade. Uh, they get picks

1033
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: moving around last year, remember of course when they moved down,

1034
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: uh with Davante Smith and they moved up. And what

1035
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: do they do, Like, they just do what they want

1036
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: on draft day? Uh, they can go get a j Brown.

1037
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: They have the arsenal to go get a j Brown. Um,

1038
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 1: they also have the arsenal to move up two picks

1039
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: and give up a couple of extra picks to go

1040
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 1: get Jordan Davis, who's just like they love big hulking

1041
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: men on their defensive line. He replaces Fletcher Cox like

1042
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 1: uh they had. I think maybe the most fun draft

1043
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: was then in the Jets. They are going to be

1044
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 1: the trendy pick to win that I've ceased because people

1045
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,399
Speaker 1: are gonna be a little out on the Cowboys about

1046
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 1: how their season ended. And it's that Cowboys cycle of

1047
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: good season, bad season. And here are the Eagles now

1048
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: with a much improved roster. Things are going very well

1049
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: for that offense before Jalen Hurts got injured. Now he's

1050
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: healthy again. I I there's plenty of reason for optimism.

1051
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 1: Uh in Philadelphia. I'll wait and see on Jordan Davis

1052
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: because at number thirteen, I know that he was a

1053
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: combine Darling X, Y and Z. But he got all

1054
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,760
Speaker 1: these guys right. But he's not gonna play on passing downs.

1055
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 1: He doesn't sack the quarterback. And he's been described by

1056
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: some as someone who's arrived like two generations late in

1057
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: the NFL's defensive was the same person it was in

1058
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: the bomb again, like look at look close, look at

1059
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: these players. There were people down on Jordan Davison where

1060
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: he fits in today's game. I mean, he's he can

1061
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: do what he does really well. In a worst case scenario,

1062
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: He's he's just a big old run stopper, maybe like

1063
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: a thirteen Brandon Williams type that the Ravens used to

1064
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: have her, a lin vol Joseph type that you put

1065
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: out there. But with that sort of athleticism, I think

1066
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: they see that it could be more. All right, So

1067
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 1: let's keep moving here. So the Texans at fifteen, they

1068
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: make a nice meat and potatoes pick here, Kenyan Green

1069
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: at A and m at guards. So they go and

1070
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: they get help with Stingley, they think could be a

1071
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: star in their secondary, and now they go about trying

1072
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: to build up that offensive line. Again, Um, that's such

1073
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: a Patriots type of offensive line. Pick right, and like

1074
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: the Patriots, the Texans on the Davis Mills like, we're

1075
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: in the position to like be an exciting team in

1076
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: this draft. That it was a trendy like thing to

1077
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 1: say this week. Hey, actually people haven't talked about the Texans,

1078
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: but they're kind of the key team in this draft,

1079
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: and you leave it being like, I don't know. The

1080
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: Texans ended up just kind of take they can't they

1081
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 1: can't play that role. They don't excite me so far away.

1082
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: Johan Dotson, wide receiver at the Penn State, goes to

1083
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: the Commander's interesting move there makes sense because Terry McLaurin

1084
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 1: needs some help, somebody else that can make other teams

1085
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: think can and and spread the field. So Dotson could

1086
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: be that guy. Also makes me think, in this year

1087
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: of everybody gets traded, is this open the door for

1088
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: McLaren to get moved uh in a trade. I know

1089
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: now the first round is now in the rear view,

1090
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: but there's always next year and all that. Now Dotson

1091
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: is there as the cheap rookie on the first round deal.

1092
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: Spice racks favorite guy, and I think Spice racks um

1093
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: level of excitement about Johan Dotson was born out here

1094
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: because six receivers went in the first sixteen picks and

1095
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 1: then no more did. Uh So I was stuck on

1096
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: a push for a sandwich. But I really think Dotson

1097
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: ended up being like the solid six in this draft.

1098
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: If if they didn't take him in Washington. I think

1099
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: the Packers or someone else did, but a very a

1100
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 1: smaller receiver. I mean, it's I'm still getting used to

1101
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: seeing guys that small play on the outside. It's just

1102
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: like a different You'll get used to it. Zion Johnson,

1103
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: the guard from Boston College goes to the Charges, so

1104
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: they continue to address protecting. Justin Herbert the franchise, Traylon

1105
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: Burke's Arkansas wide receiver goes to the Titans. Uh, so

1106
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: you have that situation there. Trevor Penning uh tackle to

1107
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: the Saints and then pick twenty Kenny pick it. Only

1108
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: quarterback off the board, Yeah, from Pittsburgh goes to the Steelers.

1109
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: So just like everyone thought was gonna happen, Kevin Colbert

1110
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: and the last weekend of his gig before maybe retirement

1111
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: by choice, and it seemed a little hard to tell.

1112
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: Um Colbert drafts that quarterback, pick it, and he will

1113
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: enter that fray with Mitch Trobinski, uh, to see who

1114
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: was going to be the quarterback there. I think I

1115
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: think it was just seen as probably the most like

1116
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: ready to step in and be a pro today. Where

1117
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: with the leak, it's you'd like to give him, you know,

1118
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: half a season or more to to progress and grow.

1119
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: But I do just remember, like hearing Tomlin talk about

1120
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: the emphasis on a mobile quarterback and pick It as

1121
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: a little bit of that, but it's not the similar

1122
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: leak Willis is completely different in that world. So, I

1123
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 1: mean he practiced throughout college feed away from where the

1124
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: Steelers operates. So it's kind of like I love the

1125
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: Pittsburghsburg correction. Yeah connection, Yeah, they they knew him. He

1126
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: was in that building, um where Pittsburgh practices too. And

1127
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: I was surprised because because of the comments that Tomlin

1128
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: made about mobility and pick It certainly has mobility like

1129
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: he but he runs to throw. Um. I think he's

1130
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: got a little more juice like in terms of running

1131
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: than Baker Mayfield does, who I've compared him to. I

1132
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: think he's a similar player to Baker Mayfield, and in

1133
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: some ways in terms of like his draft profile, he's

1134
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: not that far away from where Mr Drobiski is. Where

1135
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: the number one thing is he's absolutely accurate, Like he

1136
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: can throw the ball and it goes where he intends

1137
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: to throw it. I think not always the case with

1138
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: Mr Drobiskie now, but that was his draft prof and

1139
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: that was what everyone told us about at least coming

1140
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: coming into you and out of U n C. But

1141
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: I I don't think they were ready to change their

1142
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: whole offense from Malik Willis, which is what theyre Mileek

1143
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 1: Willis tweeted tonight after the draft, O MG, what happened

1144
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:07,240
Speaker 1: to Malik? With three crying laughing emojis? Is that maybe

1145
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: a sign that maybe it disappeared? Mark and You've got

1146
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: sandwiches coming well tbd, But that that would be the

1147
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: closest that's he's tweeting. So wouldn't that tweeting from the account?

1148
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: You gotta gotta dig a little deeper with these true

1149
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: crime scenarios, that's all. Yeah, maybe you know someone else

1150
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: over the account crrect that biggest cross. You can't be

1151
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: scared of Kenny Pickett. By the way, if you're a

1152
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,919
Speaker 1: Browns fan or Bengals fan or Ravens fan, I see

1153
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett and Mitchell Drabinski and I'm like, maybe the

1154
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: steel maybe it's time to go down. Yeah, But then

1155
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: you just watch them like coming second for Rookie of

1156
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: the Year. Hey, all right, here we go. Let's take

1157
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: a break. Marino too, you know, so there's there are

1158
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: some concerns, but let's take a break and then finish

1159
00:57:56,200 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: out the first round. Alright, we're back. Uh. You know,

1160
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: the the Chiefs, I thought they were going to be

1161
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: aggressive and get a wide receiver. They don't. They They

1162
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: draft Trent McDuffie, cornerback out of Washington. And then right

1163
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 1: behind them you have Quay Walker, a linebacker from Georgia,

1164
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: going to the Packers. And so the Packers and the Chiefs,

1165
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: two teams that everyone thought it made a lot of

1166
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: sense that they would go get wide receivers. They end

1167
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: up on the outside looking in in this wide receiver

1168
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: run and Mark, I don't think it's unfair to be

1169
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: critical of that that there wasn't more urgency to get

1170
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: in that group of six. They are opting, obviously a

1171
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,479
Speaker 1: different path, which is a pretty big risk for both

1172
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: teams that are in Super Bowl or bus mode. The

1173
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: one thing I like about Goody the GM is that

1174
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: he obviously is very confident in in what he sees

1175
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: and how he scouts players, because he doesn't just do

1176
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: he doesn't. He's too two offseason three in a row.

1177
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: He's not caved in to anything that anyone expects. They

1178
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: passed on the wide receiver. But here's the one thing

1179
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: I would say, you trade away to Monte Adams? What

1180
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: are you? What are you telling not just Aaron Rodgers,

1181
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: but your entire locker room? Can I offer a respectful

1182
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: counter to that? She did? He draft Edvante Adams? Was

1183
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: he responsible for Adams coming there? And that what wide

1184
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: receivers is? He drafted that developed into You know, I'm

1185
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: not saying this is successful. I'm saying conidence is great.

1186
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: But we've had He's been, on balance, very successful in

1187
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: that job. But the wide receiver room is something I

1188
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: don't trust him with at this point, and they the

1189
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: cupboard right now, one night into the draft remains close

1190
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: to bait. Right. But my point wouldn't have been that

1191
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: I think he's done a great job with the wide receivers,

1192
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: just that he seems to not care what anyone thinks.

1193
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: He doesn't care what all of us said that they

1194
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: might draft too wide receivers. He goes and takes completely

1195
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: opposite realms entirely, but he still doesn't have any wide receivers.

1196
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: I'm just saying he's seeing It's like, you do want

1197
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: a front office that believes in what they do, and

1198
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: I do think that, and they they By the way,

1199
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: they've won twenty six regular season games in two years.

1200
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: He has on a good job building the roster. This

1201
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: is a blind spot potentially, But I do wonder what

1202
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: it tells your Super Bowl Window team that you moved

1203
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: Davante Adams and do nothing to replace him. Well, you've

1204
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: got a Marie Rogers. You took him the third round

1205
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: and didn't do anything as a rookie. I would expect

1206
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 1: them to make a pick on Day two at receiver.

1207
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 1: Aaron rodgers Um is someone that Goody does care about

1208
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: his opinion because Rogers shared on the Pat McAfee show

1209
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: that he knew the Packers only had six first round

1210
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: receivers graded, that they only had six receivers in this

1211
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: class graded with the first round pick. And so to

1212
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 1: your point, Dan, you're right, I think they might have

1213
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 1: got caught guard, caught off guard that all those receivers

1214
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: went so quick, especially Dotson going sixteen. Maybe maybe they

1215
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: liked him, maybe maybe they didn't. And at that point

1216
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 1: they had already shared that info with Rogers. We went

1217
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: through it like the draft in real time. It takes

1218
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 1: time for these things unfold. So maybe after the third

1219
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 1: or fourth guy came off the board, maybe it's time

1220
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 1: to maybe they did. Maybe we'll learn said though he

1221
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: was saying like, look, we've had a lot of productive

1222
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: receivers come out of the second and third round for

1223
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers and Adams, including Davante Adams, who

1224
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: who took some time to who's making that team in

1225
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: the a f C or the NFC championship game. I

1226
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 1: mean they need to add more. There are some receivers

1227
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 1: out there in free agency late they need they need

1228
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 1: to add more. Absolutely. The It's also like taking an

1229
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: off ball linebacker and kway Walker, who became kind of

1230
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 1: a draft darling. I always worry about the guys. A

1231
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: that played behind maybe the greatest defensive line in college

1232
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: football history, so that's a nice spot to be. And

1233
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: then b was clearly not the best off ball linebacker

1234
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: on his own team, like Nikobe Dean was the leader

1235
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 1: of that team, made the most amount of plays. And

1236
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 1: Quay Walker's the guy that all the draft knicks kind

1237
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 1: of like project is going to be a better starter.

1238
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 1: Nakobe Dean, who DJ once had in his top six

1239
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: or seven in this entire draft, did not get taken

1240
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 1: in the first round. And I'm always worried about the

1241
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 1: guy that, like the NFL thinks they're smarter, but he

1242
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: was a guy right next to the guy who was

1243
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,919
Speaker 1: at the same But to Mark's point, like what good

1244
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 1: he has done there? I gave him the benefit the

1245
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 1: doubt with some of these moves that like Tavante Wyatt

1246
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 1: the DT out of Georgia, they took a they might

1247
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 1: proved to be productive. Guys, it's just that position. I'm

1248
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:22,439
Speaker 1: with you on that. I'm with you, But I mean

1249
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers like also knew that Tavante Adams wasn't going

1250
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: to be there right what he's saying, and he's saying

1251
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: this too, so it's like he's being very compliant. But

1252
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 1: I also think he just got paid a massive mountain

1253
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 1: of cash. Well, it would be a fun story if

1254
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 1: nothing else, And at this point, that's what I'm rooting

1255
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 1: for for for Aaron Rodgers to enter the season with

1256
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins, Lazard and Cobb as his top three and

1257
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 1: just like I would just like to watch that. They

1258
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: were also into Deebo Samuel. There were whispers about that,

1259
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: so we'll see. So as I just spin through it

1260
01:02:54,280 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: here six wide receivers, zero tight ends um only and

1261
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: zero running backs. Interesting, well, there was only one running

1262
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 1: back and that didn't happen, and two cornerbacks going to

1263
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 1: the top four. That's never happened before. Very strange draft.

1264
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: It's a passing leak though, And I think receivers and

1265
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 1: cornerbacks are now. They're not quite like at defensive lineman

1266
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: and tackles in terms of I think what the average

1267
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: GM value, but they're getting close. Graver is tweeting through

1268
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 1: it right now. My tweet decks up. He's now tweeting

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Speaker 1: things about the Titans, like, man, now that I look

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Speaker 1: at this during this show, I thinks are not going

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Speaker 1: to know things aren't so bad. This is so, this

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01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 1: is quintessential fan psychology. This is look Graver actually he's

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01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: quote retweeting his own tweets, and then he's like, based

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Speaker 1: purely on this list, we can't really complain about the

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Speaker 1: first round based on what actually happened. We have a

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Speaker 1: lot to complain. What do they get a B plus

1277
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 1: now in this what's the grade to get them? Well?

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Speaker 1: You know what you should you should feel you should

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Speaker 1: feel better though, because A. J. Brown did tweet out

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Speaker 1: twenty nine minutes ago. I love y'all Tennessee, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: everything's fine. He loves tweeted it was not my fault

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01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 1: and then deleted it. I also wanted to tweet that

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01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: many times myself. You seem to like the trailing Burke's pick,

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Speaker 1: and I know we talked the Brown trade earlier, but

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Speaker 1: we didn't really talk Burkes. He just is such a

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Speaker 1: unique prospect that didn't really play wide receiver in college

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Speaker 1: and that was a little bit of the knock on

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Speaker 1: a J. Brown and DK Metcal to be fair, and

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Speaker 1: they figured it out. But like when you watch Traylon

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Speaker 1: Burks in college, he was so far from playing like

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver position. He was just kind of like

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Speaker 1: a guy that they gave the ball to in space

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01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: and we're like, figure it out, and they did a

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Speaker 1: good job doing that. But to me on tape, he

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01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: doesn't look like he has the same Why did you

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Speaker 1: keep doing it? Doesn't look like he did have a

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Speaker 1: lot of like seventy plus yard touchdowns last season, which

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Speaker 1: and one against Alabama went against A and M like

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Speaker 1: really huge plays. It's like, I watched the tape of

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Speaker 1: these top seven receivers. I'm gonna use that information on

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01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 1: this show, you know, but you're hurting someone that we

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01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: care about that love your information, the jeff of a

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01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 1: gift or whatever, the dog in the firehouse, everything, that's

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Speaker 1: where you're at it. All right, Jags are coming. Kier

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Speaker 1: Elam cornerback Florida goes to the bill, so they do

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Speaker 1: use it on defense, not a running back. Uh. And

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01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 1: then the football factory that is Tulsa shout out Justin

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01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: Hathaway are former boss. Uh. They produced tackle Tyler Smith

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Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. And that's a smart move I think

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01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 1: by the Cowboys, who you know, that offensive line is

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01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 1: more on reputation now than perhaps abilities are getting older,

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Speaker 1: so you get some youth there. And then we mentioned

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Speaker 1: the Ravens Tyler Linderbaum Center out of Iowa. We mentioned

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Speaker 1: Jermaine Johnson to the Jets. That's a Florida State defensive

1315
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 1: end who you now pair with Carl Lawson. Then that

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01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 1: could go and get after the quarterback. Maybe the Jets

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01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 1: could finally get after a it's been a long time

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01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 1: now the back end. Devin Lloyd linebacker to Jacksonville. This

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01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 1: was a very Jags move to think that you've scouted

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Speaker 1: things so well that you're gonna give up. They actually

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01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 1: gave up a lot to trade from thirty three to

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Speaker 1: seven to take a twenty three year old offine off

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Speaker 1: ball linebackers. I'm I'm sort of like become an age

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Speaker 1: guy when it comes to the draft, Like that worries

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Speaker 1: me when it takes. It's like Kenny Pickett, it took

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Speaker 1: till his fifth year when he was like five years

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01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 1: older than a lot of the guys he was playing against.

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Speaker 1: The really step up. Jack's always like believe in what

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01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 1: they do, and they like trade up for the guy

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Speaker 1: that they love, and it like it never works. Does

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01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson have any say in this process? It's just

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01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 1: it's I I they need a defense. But it's like,

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01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,479
Speaker 1: you know, hang with who you have Peterson, um Cole

1334
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Speaker 1: Strange at a Chattanooga guard goes to the Patriots. So

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01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 1: Ricky and the A T. N Era, which you have

1336
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 1: been a star for five years. It's almost fitting that

1337
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 1: it ends your last draft as our producer, ends with

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01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 1: Cole stream right, So I'd like a full scouting report

1339
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Speaker 1: from you right now on Strange and what he brings

1340
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 1: to that line. Yeah. Absolutely, Well, Belichick did say in

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01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 1: this pressor just now that if they hadn't traded with

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, they would have taken him at twenty long.

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01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 1: I believe him because like, we better, we better trade

1344
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Speaker 1: out of this pick. We're gonna take cold strange. No

1345
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 1: one's taken him right, And and then he also said

1346
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 1: like he wouldn't have been around much longer because people

1347
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 1: were literally like, weren't you rating him as like, weren't

1348
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: people rating him as like a DJ called him one

1349
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 1: of his favorite mid round guys. Right when at the

1350
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 1: middle of the first one, I googled his name and

1351
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 1: Patriots looking for the trade terms. I actually prominent mock

1352
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 1: draft came up where the Patriots took him in the

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01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 1: third round. Right to be fair, they went back eight spots.

1354
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 1: They did pick up a third and a fourth, so

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01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 1: that that's a very Patriots move. And I feel like

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Speaker 1: every time the Patriots do this trade back and then

1357
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Speaker 1: take someone no one liked, you at least have to

1358
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 1: bring up the name Logan Mankins. No one, no one

1359
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 1: ever said buy a pick more than Logan Mankins. And

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01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 1: it worked out that one. There's many that didn't. Strange

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Speaker 1: times the Chiefs. So I thought we're gonna move up

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01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 1: and uh, get a wide receiver. They they're out of business,

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01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 1: and they finish up with defensive end. George carloftis out

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Speaker 1: of perdue, so they addressed their defense to two guys

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01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 1: who can start. I think they took two guys in

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01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 1: carloftus Uh and McDuffie that I think are kind of

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01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 1: seen as two of the ready to go starters, and

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01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:32,560
Speaker 1: the Chiefs needed two starters. They're just gonna play rights

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01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 1: iron Man. I like him slippery and now he's not

1370
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 1: smooth like butter Just. I think he's gonna with Greg.

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be there in week one doing

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01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 1: stuff good safety at a Michigan Taxton Hill goes to

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01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:49,799
Speaker 1: the defending a f C champion Bengals. And then finally,

1374
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 1: and this is sometimes a little sexy fun picked in

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01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 1: the first round. Somebody will grab a quarterback at thirty two,

1376
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,719
Speaker 1: but not this time. The Vikings pick in that spot

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01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 1: and they take Louis scene scene. I feel seen out

1378
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 1: of Georgia. So after Picket goes at twenty and they

1379
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 1: were all those trades and the Hollywood Brown trade had

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01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 1: already happened, even though it was for the pick. Like that,

1381
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 1: the draft was on fire. Then it was on fire.

1382
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 1: It was almost too much to handle. Uh. And then

1383
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 1: you had twelve straight defensive or offensive line picks, none

1384
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 1: of which I felt like a film that falls apart.

1385
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 1: After the midpoint, it petered out a little bit. Um.

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01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 1: So that is the first round, and there are of

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01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 1: course six more rounds to come Friday, rounds two and three,

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01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 1: Saturday four or five, six, seven. We are going to

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01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,919
Speaker 1: get on a plane and head back to Los Angeles

1390
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Speaker 1: tomorrow and give you your final draft show. Now, any

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01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 1: final thoughts marks. I just think Vegas. Vegas was great.

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01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 1: I just think we have to talk a little bit

1393
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:59,719
Speaker 1: about our week here and there are thirty six hours

1394
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 1: feel like a week. Yeah we we we got here

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01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 1: a little over twenty four hours ago, and it's just

1396
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 1: like Vegas to me, didn't you guys think this was

1397
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 1: they got to bring the draft back here? Just there's

1398
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:12,680
Speaker 1: something about this place that was perfect. The draft is

1399
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,799
Speaker 1: sort of this totally artificial, made up event out of nothing,

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01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 1: Like it's just Las Vegas. It's reading off names and

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01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 1: it's in this city. Right, that's as artificial as can be.

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01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:23,679
Speaker 1: But it's all fun. Like the draft is fun. Vegas

1403
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 1: is fun. It like all, it all made sense wild

1404
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:30,839
Speaker 1: out there. I love it. It's it's hope season. Everyone wins,

1405
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 1: uh except for except for Justin, And I think that

1406
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 1: is you see that optimism. Um. Tens of thousands of

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01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 1: fans in the city today, UM, it's exciting to be here.

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Speaker 1: I do miss the smaller version of this event that

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01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 1: was at New York City, that was at Radio City

1410
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 1: Music Hall. But at the same time, when you see

1411
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 1: what they've turned it into and what a marketing bonanza

1412
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 1: this whole draft is, you get it. You get why

1413
01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 1: it's never going back to a small room like at

1414
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 1: It's always going to be a blown out event. And

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01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 1: it was done very well. Uh this night. One we

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01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 1: did have on my closing thought is because we are

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01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 1: saying good bye to Erica, and a lot of our

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01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:15,759
Speaker 1: great times with Erica been at events and it is fitting.

1419
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 1: There's a little bit of a Vegas vibe to um.

1420
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 1: Part of what Erica brings. We had a Mexican dinner

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01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 1: last night that costs like four thousand dollars, because that's

1422
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,679
Speaker 1: how I bought a toothbrush today that cost fourteen dollars.

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01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:28,719
Speaker 1: So that's maybe I'm fine with that. It just expense

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01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 1: it thee. No, no, no, I I don't pay for

1425
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 1: it like the commissier. Can you expense the tooth? Yes,

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01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 1: under the under the tab miscellaneous? Okaya? And I know

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01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 1: you had to buy similar things, Erica. But we had

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01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 1: a great night. Um, we had a nice picture of

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01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 1: Margarita's and you know we had gondola's. We're going by

1430
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 1: us in the water. Don't tell the whole public you

1431
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 1: guys called gondolas. We don't need to won the pole

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01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,759
Speaker 1: did Actually no, actually, I can't believe you just told

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01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 1: our vast audience that you say that wrong. Well, I

1434
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 1: was gonna wat you guys off the hook on that.

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01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 1: Me and Hank were mortified that you call it a gondola.

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01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 1: Eric and I are very firm and where we stand

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01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:14,719
Speaker 1: on this, I'm not really concerned with Yeah, but Erica

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01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 1: will miss you, we all will. And uh, it was

1439
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 1: a nice way to say kind of goodbye. Yeah, we

1440
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 1: got one more show with Ricky, but it won't be uh,

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01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:24,679
Speaker 1: it won't be in person. So yes, this is ah

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01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 1: the end of an era and we're gonna we're gonna

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01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 1: miss you. Girl sucks um on that note, but it's

1444
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:39,679
Speaker 1: been a great time here and and thanks to everybody

1445
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:42,600
Speaker 1: behind the scenes that's helped us out um make this

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01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 1: a professional operation. Not only do we have this like

1447
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:49,759
Speaker 1: badass set, we also have guests coming right off the stage,

1448
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 1: added bro Hugs, and one of the guests was Yes

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01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 1: Cavon Thibodeaux the New York Giants, UH future star. I

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01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 1: think if this kid can play and everything that he

1451
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 1: did in college tells us he's going to be an

1452
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 1: impact player in our league. His personality is going to

1453
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 1: be exactly what the Giants need Forget all that other

1454
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 1: stuff about him that he might not be focused or

1455
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 1: he's gotta in and out motor who No, I don't

1456
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 1: know about how he's gonna play, but if he does

1457
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 1: produce to go with that personality. I was blown away

1458
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 1: by how New York City ready this man is. He

1459
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 1: he is, he is part of the around the NFL.

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01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 1: Here you get a chance to do it, Greg, here

1461
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 1: we go do it. Alright, let's let's roll it back. Okay,

1462
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 1: now you know you're the part you say to do

1463
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:43,640
Speaker 1: it part? I got it. I just forgot what she

1464
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:52,640
Speaker 1: says a little early on the cube, but I liked it.

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01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:55,759
Speaker 1: I like, all right, here we go. Thank you. Everybody

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Speaker 1: for listening. We'll be back Saturday night with a full

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Speaker 1: draft recap. We close with our second conversation with Cavon

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Speaker 1: Thibodeaux in three days. It was a lot of fun,

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01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 1: and it was a lot of fun doing the show

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01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 1: and watching round running the draft from Las Vegas. See

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01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 1: us Saturday till then heed the call and we are back. No,

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01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 1: all right, here we are. It was just a couple

1473
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 1: of days ago that Cavon Thibodeaux came to the NFL

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01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 1: Media studios and saw our podcast taping and jumped in

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01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:28,640
Speaker 1: booted m J d out and we had a conversation.

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Speaker 1: As a Jets fan, I said, Cavan to New York,

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01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:33,679
Speaker 1: that would be awesome. Well, didn't work out with the Jets,

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01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:36,560
Speaker 1: but the Giants get you, and I know as a

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01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 1: native New Yorker, Yeah, listen, I I would have loved

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01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 1: it if you were on my team. Like Sauce too though.

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01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 1: So you're a top five pick in New York. It

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01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 1: feels like I'm match made in heaven. It does, but

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01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's even funnier about it. Being here with you, guys,

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01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:54,919
Speaker 1: is the true meaning of manifestation. Yeah. I came in yesterday.

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01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 1: I came in. Was it two days ago? I crashed

1486
01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 1: the show? It was great. We didn't you know. We

1487
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 1: had a great time. And now I'm back and it's

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01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 1: even better because I just got drafted by the New

1489
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 1: York Giants and the annual Manifested top five pick. You

1490
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 1: said that specifically they get to five, and then I

1491
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 1: think someone listened to our podcast and they just like,

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01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 1: we gotta take we must do it. And you know

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01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 1: what happened. I didn't tell anybody, but I was manifested

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01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 1: in New York too. I was playing. I took him,

1495
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:21,839
Speaker 1: I took I took all the staff to Korean barbecue.

1496
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 1: I brought him. I had him all you can eat.

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01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 1: I butted him up. You know, are we really got

1498
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 1: to break bread and they really got to see that

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01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:31,719
Speaker 1: I'm hungry. Literally when we talked to you just forty

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01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 1: eight hours ago, whatever it was, you didn't mention the Giants.

1501
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 1: Did you did you truly have a feeling? Did they

1502
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 1: talk to you? Did they give you a sense that

1503
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 1: you might be the guy? You know? The GM Joe

1504
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 1: he faced time me right before I got on the

1505
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:45,720
Speaker 1: plane to come out here. He didn't even think I

1506
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 1: was gonna answer. He said, oh wow, you answered, I said,

1507
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 1: what you mean, coach, while not mean would I'm not answered,

1508
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 1: but that's I had a feeling, I said, you know,

1509
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 1: and then you know, he did the video call and everything.

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01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:02,679
Speaker 1: I know, I'm just saying that and that's a little

1511
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 1: too much that for me, it's about building trust and

1512
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,679
Speaker 1: it's about family, right, So I'm coming into their family

1513
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 1: and you gotta do what it takes to find that

1514
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 1: trust and find that love for you know, those guys.

1515
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 1: And we were just you know, talking to Sauce and

1516
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 1: with the Jets, that's been eleven years since they made

1517
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,599
Speaker 1: the playoffs. The Giants have a much more rich history

1518
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 1: super Bowl history, but they've also fallen a very hard time.

1519
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 1: So just like the way Jets fans are looking for

1520
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 1: brighter tomorrow, the Giants fans are in that position to

1521
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 1: And Evan Neil from Alabama also is gonna shore up

1522
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:34,680
Speaker 1: the other side of the ball on the trenches. It

1523
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 1: seems like you guys have a chance to lead a

1524
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:39,600
Speaker 1: new charge there. That's what I'm talking about. And you

1525
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 1: know the greatest part, we started together and we're gonna

1526
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 1: finish together. In the same way that I went with

1527
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 1: Piney School, and we we grinded, we put each other

1528
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 1: to work, and we got better. That's the same thing

1529
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 1: that's gonna happen in New York. We're gonna put We're

1530
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 1: gonna put each other to the test, and we've come

1531
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 1: every day blow for blow. Is that? Is that? What

1532
01:16:55,920 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 1: that meant? That's hunger? You know what I mean? And

1533
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 1: when you know and and the greatest part is when

1534
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:03,720
Speaker 1: you know a guy's just as hungry, when you know

1535
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:05,680
Speaker 1: that he's gonna bring it. He's gonna throw that right

1536
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 1: hook and I'm gonna throw the jab. But we're gonna

1537
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 1: go back and forth. When you think about the someone

1538
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:11,640
Speaker 1: like jail and hurts other quarterbacks in your division, what

1539
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 1: would you tell them verbally right now about what their

1540
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 1: their future in the NFC East. I'm not gonna tell

1541
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 1: him nothing. I have no worries. Did you What did

1542
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 1: you say to Suss What did you say to saus

1543
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 1: Gardner when you guys, SA, my man, you know we

1544
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 1: went a couple of business. We went on a couple

1545
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 1: of business with each other. Man, So now to see us,

1546
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 1: you know, end up in New York. I told him,

1547
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 1: I said, call me, man, we write down the road,

1548
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 1: call me and then when we play, I'm deleting your

1549
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 1: number and I'm blocking him coming to bunch and you

1550
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 1: know again. Cycling back to our conversation tuesday, Greg, he

1551
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 1: overstepped a little bit and said, are we friends now? Rightly?

1552
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 1: You said no, we're not. Now quickly, how about now?

1553
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 1: Are you Greg's friend? Now? Right now? We're acquaintances? That

1554
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 1: thing you gotta We haven't even eating together. I'm still

1555
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 1: hung every time I'll get you, guys, I've been hungry.

1556
01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 1: So it's hard to find that loving side when you're

1557
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 1: you're thinking about the cow. We're making progress though, I

1558
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 1: mean that they they got Korean barbecue in Las Vegas.

1559
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:08,600
Speaker 1: You're not busy tonight? Now, come on, now, what are

1560
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 1: you gonna do tonight? What do you mean? I'm gonna

1561
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 1: go to sleep and I'm gonna wake up so i

1562
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 1: can get on that plane. I don't want to be

1563
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 1: in Vegas. I want to be in New York? Are

1564
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 1: you serious? And you know what? Like, I'm from l

1565
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 1: a who cares about Vegas? New York. It's like, sometimes

1566
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 1: I think it's way overblown. Are you gonna be the

1567
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 1: handle of the New York media and all that? Man?

1568
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 1: If you have Cavon Thibodeaus like outlook on things. They're

1569
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 1: gonna love you. And if you produce, and I think

1570
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 1: you will, you're gonna be an instant superstar in that town.

1571
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 1: So get ready, you're gonna own that place. I think

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01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna own it. There's gonna be a partnership

1573
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:43,600
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna put everything I can into them, and

1574
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 1: I know they're gonna pour all the love and support

1575
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:47,839
Speaker 1: into me. Sometimes I feel like Cavan has a script

1576
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:50,600
Speaker 1: and then he writes these things. Now's not perfect dancers,

1577
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 1: it's perfect dancer and that, and that's the difference. It's

1578
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 1: in me. It's really in my heart, and I feel

1579
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 1: like God is speaking for me. I'll never I'll never

1580
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 1: speak words that he doesn't put into my brain. All right, Well,

1581
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 1: then during the season and we gotta come back for

1582
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 1: the trilogy, like any any good movie series, like you

1583
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 1: can't just do too and we move up from acquaintances

1584
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 1: to like, howood you know what happens in Hollywood? I'm

1585
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 1: gonna be on the show. I'm not gonna be on

1586
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 1: the show. I'm gonna be a part of the show.

1587
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 1: That's like that that are you totally ghost uff it's

1588
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 1: gonna be one or the other, one or the other,

1589
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,639
Speaker 1: all right, Cabon, thank you so much for joining us. Dude,

1590
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 1: really are excited for you. Excited to put some juice

1591
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 1: back in the meadowlands. Uh. And good luck eating this

1592
01:19:30,360 --> 01:20:02,480
Speaker 1: year and going forward to the NFL. Than spe