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Speaker 1: Let's Go part of the Giants Podcast Week. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: another edition of the Giants Totle Podcast, brought to you

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Speaker 1: I am John Schmelk today our special guest, former Giants

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Speaker 1: cornerback r W. Mccorters. Are you man?

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Speaker 2: Why are you man? I'm doing good about yourself. Good

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Speaker 2: to see you too.

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Speaker 1: Everything is fantastic, man. So I think the last time

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Speaker 1: you were the Giants training camp up in Albany.

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Speaker 3: This is a little bit different, right, Yes, the last

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Speaker 3: time I was near training camp. When I heard training camp,

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Speaker 3: it makes my ears tingle a little bit. That's just

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Speaker 3: because you go through training camp and then once you're done,

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Speaker 3: it's you think about the guys that are in train

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Speaker 3: camp and it's like, but then the rules are different,

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Speaker 3: the collective Barty and greement rules, the CBA rules a

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Speaker 3: little bit different. So I don't think it's as as

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Speaker 3: strenuous on them as it was for us.

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Speaker 1: Correct, a little different? No more?

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Speaker 2: Two days right, right? No more?

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Speaker 1: Tom Coffin. I thought it was at ten am six pm.

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Speaker 1: If I remember right, the.

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Speaker 3: Two days and in like a ten and a four,

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Speaker 3: it was like that, Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: So how do you think it would have been different

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Speaker 1: for you guys not going away to Albany? And obviously

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Speaker 1: you didn't have this facility. I'll talk to you about

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Speaker 1: that too. You you guys said that like the little

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Speaker 1: bubble on the one practice field back at the old stadium.

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Speaker 1: But how much different would it have been if you

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Speaker 1: were doing camp here rather than kind of going away

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Speaker 2: You know, Albany wasn't bad, and I liked allbody was.

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Speaker 3: When I was in Chicago, we we we had training

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Speaker 3: camp at in Platteville, Wisconsin, which was uh.

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Speaker 2: They had a cemetery across the street from the from

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Speaker 2: the dorms.

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Speaker 3: And that was just sort of like the tradition of

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Speaker 3: Go to just get away so you can practice focus

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Speaker 3: and then we'll come back.

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Speaker 1: You bond with your teammates all that, right, But now.

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Speaker 3: You know when inflation and everything, not now, but just

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Speaker 3: years ago, it's it's cheaper for the organization to say, hey,

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Speaker 3: let's just keep everything in house. So instead of paying

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Speaker 3: two three minutes. But with no to a days, I

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Speaker 3: think guys just lasts longer. I think it's it just

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Speaker 3: becomes a different type of camp.

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Speaker 2: And I think with instead.

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Speaker 3: Of doing to days, you got probably one longer practice,

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Speaker 1: You will walk throughs and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: Think guys will be a little bit more frustrated, a

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Speaker 1: So to say, all right, I'm gonna go back to seven,

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Speaker 1: and you can correct me if you disagree with me.

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Speaker 1: But we're eight nine, ten games into that season. Minnesota

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Speaker 1: comes in and they have to obviously take it to

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Speaker 1: you guys a little bit that year, right, Like, there

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Speaker 1: was a lot of picks in that game, all the

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Speaker 1: back papers, fire Tom Coff and get rid of blind Manning.

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Speaker 1: At what point in seven did you start to see

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Speaker 2: I think when you look at our roster. That's what

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Speaker 2: it starts. And you look at you had straight hand,

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Speaker 1: Up front, we had Freddie Robbins, Freddy.

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Speaker 2: They should do this, they should do that, and things

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Speaker 3: But I think for us it was. It was one

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Speaker 2: and it was it was we had a good team.

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Speaker 3: We had we had good guys, We had humble guys,

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Speaker 2: We had fun guys, and we had fun. And we

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Speaker 2: know Tom Kaffins military coach, but we couldn't let all

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Speaker 3: Trickle down to the locker room, like we understood what

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Speaker 3: I think probably Week six or seven is when it

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Speaker 1: Interesting, what was it about Spags that made it work

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Speaker 2: I think Spags is real sharp.

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Speaker 1: De Spagnola, by the way, defensive coarter Spags.

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Speaker 3: A shark, And I think what he did is that

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Speaker 3: we didn't just come in like a traditional Hey we're

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Speaker 3: little tweak in it. We always had a little tweak

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Speaker 3: But that's part of being a good defense coordinator. That's

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Speaker 3: knowing your personnel and knowing how to create pressure, create penetration,

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Speaker 3: and create the havoc on the offensive side. But I mean,

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Speaker 3: halfway through the football game or halfway through a quarter,

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Speaker 3: Spags will come in and say, hey, I know we were

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Speaker 3: thar week on this. Instead of coming this way, we're

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Speaker 3: gonna come to opposite way. So you literally do it

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Speaker 3: on the sideline, right, Oh yeah, in a heartbeat on

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Speaker 3: the grease board. So SPACs was sharp. Peter Gentle was sharp,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no question about it. I would to get to

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Speaker 1: the Dallas game in a second, but first, bigger thing

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Speaker 1: with the Patriots, you guys faced them last game in

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Speaker 1: the regular season, right, and they put points up on you.

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Speaker 2: Guys thirty five.

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Speaker 1: Got to the Super Bowl. Things were a little bit different, right,

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Speaker 1: What adjustments and what did you learn in that final

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Speaker 1: What did you guys either learn that game or what

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Speaker 1: your defense was able to slow down that what I

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Speaker 3: You know, I remember lead watching the pre game, listen

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Speaker 3: game or earlier that day, and here the commentators say, well,

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Speaker 3: week seventeen, I guess it's up to the Giants and

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Speaker 3: stop on and we were like, hold up, they had

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Speaker 2: Why is it on us?

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Speaker 3: It's been on everybody since the week won, right, But

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Speaker 3: now it's down to us because we're the last game

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Speaker 3: course of the regular season. I think the thing that

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Speaker 3: made us mad the most is that they came out

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Speaker 2: It was hard to move the ball on us.

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Speaker 3: Now you can get you'll sneak one in on a

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Speaker 3: fast on us, and we hated it. And they got

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Speaker 3: a cheap one down the sideline when they threw the

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Speaker 2: We just felt like.

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Speaker 3: Because at one point it almost came down and if

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Speaker 2: Make the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: So to our defense, we were sort of looking forward saying, okay,

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Speaker 2: We got to stop these, we gotta stop them.

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Speaker 3: And I think when you look at Week seventeen and

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Speaker 3: then you look at the Super Bowl again, when when

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Speaker 3: SPACs took Tuck and let him choose this hole, so

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Speaker 3: you subing Tucky in to take one of those guys.

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Speaker 2: Now you got to block three of these guys, which

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Speaker 2: is tough.

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Speaker 3: Then you got Fred and you got Barry, which were big,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, jay Al for two.

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Speaker 3: And I think just that that's what comes with spags

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Speaker 2: That game, and it was like, okay, no more cheap shots.

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Speaker 3: But when you watch the Patriots offense their little quick slants,

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Speaker 3: these guys are lining up throw the ball fifty sixty

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Speaker 2: And it doesn't work because Tom.

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Speaker 3: Brady for fifteen seconds, you can't cover that long.

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Speaker 2: I don't care how good you are. But if you

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Speaker 2: create the pressure and.

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Speaker 3: You get him out of the pocket, make him move around,

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Speaker 3: make him think, make him throw the ball where he

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Speaker 2: And then that was one of the reasons why we

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Speaker 1: And our dub? It's funny you keep giving all the

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Speaker 2: I want to give credits to the secondary.

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Speaker 1: Randy Moss is Randy freaking Moss here, man, I mean,

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Speaker 1: and you guys slowed him down in that Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: So what did you guys do well in the secondary?

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Speaker 1: Did you mix your coverage up well? Was it about

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Speaker 1: what you guys did back there that I remember? Spacksld

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Speaker 1: me out to the game. James Butler played the perfect game.

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Speaker 1: He was in this right spot every time, and it

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Speaker 1: seemed like all you guys were So now, what did

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Speaker 1: you guys do in the back end that worked?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 3: While I think what helped with us in the back

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Speaker 3: on the same side, but James Butler, Corey Webster, they

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Speaker 2: So we were more concerned about, man.

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Speaker 3: Again, I think it was the pressure up front. I

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Speaker 2: You'll had the ankle too, right, You had the ankle

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Speaker 2: But they had a good course they had.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you got too Terry Glenn, Patrick Whitting and

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Speaker 3: What he did well, He would buy himself more time

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Speaker 2: Just to buy him time.

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Speaker 3: And with Dallas against us, Dallas wasn't necessarily trying to

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Speaker 3: I think we had pretty much shut down the run

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Speaker 1: You did, and in the first half they got you

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Speaker 3: Well, well, you said Julius Jones and Marion Barber was

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 1: Take us to that play fourth and the life. Dallas

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Speaker 1: How did you get the interception on that pass to Terry?

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what happened. So I was on defensive left.

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Speaker 3: I mean was the cornerback. James Butler was a safety.

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Speaker 3: We had a couple more time, a couple more minutes

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Speaker 1: citizensbank dot com. All right, finally, or is up? To

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Speaker 1: keep track of the league. What do you think about

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Speaker 3: I was kind of shot we made the playoffs last year,

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Speaker 2: I hope the wide receivers can stay healthy. And I

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Speaker 1: Final question how do you think the direction of the

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Speaker 1: going in terms of style of play.

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Speaker 3: I think I think you're gonna see in the next

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Speaker 3: probably four or five years.

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Speaker 2: A lot of teams really like just lining up, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna throw the ball. We're gonna throw the ball. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna throw the ball. I know you got to run

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Speaker 2: the ball.

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Speaker 3: I think there's gonna be a shift with back to

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Speaker 3: running the ball.

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Speaker 2: I believe it's coming because are you gonna put your

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Speaker 2: safeties deep? Right? Right?

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Speaker 3: But but I'm saying, like we've seen every West Coast

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Speaker 3: offense style offense there is, whatever it is, we've seen it.

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Speaker 3: Now they're saying that your handoff in front is illegal

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Speaker 3: pass now, so now you got to get back to

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Speaker 3: behind the ball.

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Speaker 2: So you're gonna get back to the runs.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna get back to trying to pound and running

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Speaker 3: out the clock and wearing a team down instead of

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Speaker 3: because sometimes you'll look you're watch a football game and

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Speaker 3: it's like four minutes.

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Speaker 2: In, this is a third possession, like what and it's

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Speaker 2: like they coming out they throwing the.

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Speaker 3: Ball three four times a possession, I mean a series

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Speaker 3: and three and out punt, three and out punt, And

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Speaker 3: then you look up and it's like they hadn't really

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Speaker 3: moved the ball. But I think you're gonna get back

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Speaker 3: to guys running the football or do He's still passing

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Speaker 3: the ball, but just more more more running.

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Speaker 1: It's been a long time great having r w MC

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Speaker 1: quarters on the Johnson Gas Bargie. I said it is

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Speaker 1: in the official bank of the Giants.