1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:00,880 Speaker 1: Can't. 2 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 2: I am six forty. 3 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 3: You're listening to the John Cobelt Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 3: We're on every day from one until four o'clock. After 5 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 3: four o'clock John Cobelt Show on demand on the iHeart app, 6 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 3: and you can. 7 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 2: Listen to what you missed. 8 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 3: Listen all weekend to all the shows that we've done, 9 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 3: all of them, just run them continuously. All right, We're 10 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 3: gonna talk now with Royal Oaks for ABC News. So 11 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 3: the news that's been swirling around all day from back 12 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 3: east is Gallainne Maxwell meeting with the Deputy Attorney General 13 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 3: Todd Blanche. Maxwell of course, was the close associate of 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein, and she helped recruit and she got convicted 15 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 3: of a lot of felonies, and she's going to spend 16 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 3: at least twenty years in prison, and she's in her sixties. 17 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 3: Says she's desperate to try to mitigate the sentence in 18 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 3: some way, and now she's trying to come clean and 19 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 3: give the government names. Now as of about oh, I 20 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: don't know one thirty. The New York Post reported that 21 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 3: Glenn Maxwell gave the Department of Justice the names of 22 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 3: one hundred different people connected to Jeffrey Epstein. Now when 23 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 3: these were linked to connected to again, there's no detail 24 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 3: on if these were customers of the Jeffrey's services or not. 25 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 3: Trump could give her a pardon that's been swirling in 26 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 3: the air, but she's got to come up with information 27 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 3: that they can verify. Also, her lawyers are taking a 28 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 3: case to the Supreme Court that her conviction was invalid 29 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 3: because of a non prosecution agreement that prosecutors made with 30 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 3: Epstein back in seven. So we'll talk about all this 31 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 3: with Royal Oaks, ABC News Legal analyst Royal, how are you. 32 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: I'm doing great. 33 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 34 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: Boy. 35 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: It seems like everybody on both sides of the politic spectrum, 36 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: John are very interested in this. It's kind of like 37 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: we have to change our national motto from eurbazunam to 38 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: inquiring minds want to know because the left wants to 39 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: see right people named his clients, the right wants to 40 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: see left. But as you say, she's got a lot 41 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: of irons in the fire. She's interested in a pardon. 42 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: Her lawyer today said, well, you know, the President could 43 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: pardon ms Maxwell, and we hope he will. But basically yes, 44 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: she by speaking for six hours with Trump's lawyer, Todd Branch, 45 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: the guy who represented him in the Stormy Daniels case, 46 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: and now he's in the Attorney General's office. She may 47 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: have some information. The non prosecution deal you mentioned, John 48 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: is really interesting. It's very rare that the prosecutors will say, look, 49 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: you play ball with us and we won't go after 50 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: your spouse or a co conspirator. Very rare and not 51 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: against the big fish. And Maxwell probably qualifies as a 52 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: big fish in the Jeffrey Epstein world. 53 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: So would she be covered by this? 54 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: And because first I heard of this, you know, my 55 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 3: attention for this goes in and out. So Epstein was 56 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 3: charged and prosecuted in six got a sweetheart deal. He 57 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 3: was spending i think weekends under house arrest or some 58 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 3: such nonsense, right, and they said, okay, we'll go after 59 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 3: anyone else on your side. 60 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: That's right between that sweetheart deal. And then in twenty nineteen, 61 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: when he killed himself in prison awaiting sex trafficking trial, 62 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: there were lots of charges swirling around, and in the 63 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: course of that he cut a deal not to get 64 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: himself off the hook, but to reduce the number of charges. 65 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: And allegedly the deal didn't mention Maxwell, but did mention 66 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: co conspirators, So her lawyers have a hard job to 67 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: convince a court that, yeah, this is an enforceable deal. 68 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: It's specific enough. He kind of reminds you of the 69 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: build Cosby deal where the original DA twenty five years 70 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: ago said okay, Bill, if you'll testify in your civil case, 71 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: we will prosecute you. He said, okay, Then he talked 72 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: about kayluds and women, and then suddenly he's prosecuted, and oh, 73 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: well the deal really, isn't there same thing here? 74 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: Wouldn't this have come up before? 75 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: Though? 76 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: Before they started putting her on trial, the lawyers must 77 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: have brought this up. 78 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very weird that it's only coming to the 79 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: fore now. And I think it's just a function of 80 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: the bright light of publicity being shining on it, because 81 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: you're right, I mean, if it's a good deal for her, 82 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: why wouldn't she have raised it before? But when you 83 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: have an Attorney General Pambondi who comes into office in February, 84 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: then in March and April she's saying, oh, I got 85 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: a client list, an Epstein client list, and my dad 86 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: we're kind of going through it. And then a couple 87 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: of months later, Oh, nothing to see here. And of 88 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: course Alan Dershowitz saw he did a piece in the 89 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal the day he said, I was Epstein's lawyer. 90 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: I've seen all this stuff. There's nobody high profile implicated 91 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: in any of these lists. So who knows if the 92 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: courts will even allow the release of the grand jury stuff. 93 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 3: There's been so much hype over lit and identities and 94 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 3: nothing pans out. I mean, if something must have been 95 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 3: going on all these years, right, he did have a 96 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 3: lot of teenage girls, and he had a lot of 97 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 3: people on his island and on his plane, and you know, 98 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 3: he was exceptionally perverse. And it is an interesting list 99 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 3: of people who end up being connected to him, you know, 100 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 3: people like Woody Allen and Kevin Spacey and Bill Gates, 101 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 3: people who have had sexual stories swirling about them over 102 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 3: the years, Bill Clinton. Right, So you know it's all plausible. Now, 103 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: what would be these hundred people be I mean, I 104 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 3: know you don't know, but would she have to produce 105 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 3: one hundred or fifty or ten customers of Jeffrey Epstein 106 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 3: that they could prosecute for being involved in child sex trafficking? 107 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, theoretically. I mean, the main thing now is to 108 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: tamp down the argument that it was the deep state. 109 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: There's no transparency. Whether you're on the left or you're right, 110 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: people are angry. But it comes to her actually producing stuff. 111 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: It can't be just her word. It has to be 112 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: her pointing to some sort of documentation connecting the dots. 113 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: Because as you say, you know, you've got lists of 114 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: people on the planes, You've got maybe the ages of 115 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: the kids on the planes. It doesn't mean anybody else 116 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: on the plane did anything wrong, but still it could 117 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: lead you down the path. But I think at the 118 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: end of the road, your instinct is right. It's been 119 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: so many years and everybody assumed, well, there must be 120 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: a bunch of really powerful people who are just sweating 121 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: bullets because they were hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein. And 122 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: yet it's been years and years. You'd think a woman 123 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: or a document or something would surface, and it hasn't. 124 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: So it may be a nothing burger. But I think 125 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: the government feels like they have to keep digging to 126 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: satisfy both the left and the right. 127 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 3: Why did Trump's people say that they had these lists, 128 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 3: they had evidence. Why have we heard that there's been 129 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 3: photos and a video system all these years. I don't 130 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 3: understand why this story keeps popping up and everybody's saying basic, oh, 131 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 3: just you wouldn't believe what's that there? And then nothing happened. 132 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 3: Nothing is kept secret. Like if Trump was involved with 133 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 3: a fourteen year old, that would have come out by now. 134 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 3: Same thing with Bill Clinton, right, it would have come out. 135 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 3: Both of them had plenty of political enemies and enemies otherwise. 136 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: I think the answer to your question is there were 137 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people on the right, a lot of 138 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: people in magnation who are firmly believing that this is 139 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: the deep swamp, and there's so much secrecy and sexual rings, 140 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: all these rumors and so on. We just want complete transparency. 141 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: We think, you know, some prominent people on the left 142 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: were involved. The House Oversight Committee is getting involved. You know, 143 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: they're going to get a deposition maybe from Maxwell on 144 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: August eleven about her the handling of her case. And 145 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: as you say, she's angling to her getting out to 146 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: you here, wants to pardon, she wants some court to say, Okay, yeah, 147 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: that was not really fair. Were you were cheated? You 148 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: were promised that there would be no prosecution. That's what 149 00:07:58,520 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: she was. 150 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 3: Well, somebody must have been having sex with these girls. 151 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 3: I mean the girls really existed, and Epstein really had 152 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 3: a weird operation going on. 153 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: There must have been customers. 154 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: Right, Well, absolutely, that's a rational assumption. But did the 155 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: passage of time is so critical here. I mean it's 156 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: now been six years since he died, and you know, 157 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: twenty years or so since the Sweetheart Deal. So much 158 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: interest in this case, you'd think it would have surfaced. 159 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: That's why a lot of people are thinking. If it 160 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: hasn't surfaced by now, you know, we're going to go 161 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: through the motions, but let's not look for any blockbuster. 162 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 2: So we're six years? 163 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 3: Would I would, if you'd ask me, I already guest 164 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 3: three years, it's been six years since he was found 165 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 3: dead in the jail. 166 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: And implies when he's not having fun. 167 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well I'm very good. 168 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: Thank you, Royle, all right, thank you, Royal. 169 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 3: Oaks, ABC News for KFFI we come back. You remember 170 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 3: a few weeks ago, some some joggers, some hikers found 171 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 3: owned and this was on video a guy starting a 172 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 3: fire and Runyon Canyon. Well, two more fires broke out 173 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 3: at Runyan Canyon this week. And they've also gone into 174 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 3: the background of the man who set a fire two 175 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 3: weeks ago. Wait, do you hear how many times he's 176 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 3: been arrested? And this is to me the heart of 177 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 3: the problem here. You get a guy who is arrested 178 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 3: so many times and he's still on the loose and 179 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 3: he's starting fires. And now maybe there's other people starting fires, 180 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 3: or maybe he's starting fires. Maybe he got released again. 181 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 3: We'll talk all about this coming up. 182 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 183 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 4: six forty. 184 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 2: Now, do not go to the New York Post, Deborah. 185 00:09:58,280 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 5: Why John. 186 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: They have a story. 187 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 3: About a dog groomer caught on video punching the dogs 188 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 3: that she's supposed to care for, and they had the 189 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 3: video on a loop. 190 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: I saw it. That's bad. It's bad. 191 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 5: Was in the grooming salon. 192 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah yeah. And and the dogs are hooked. 193 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 5: Oh god, yes, I know what they do. I mean 194 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 5: when they're grooming. They yes, they can't go anywhere, right. 195 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 3: The the the leash is on a hook, and so 196 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 3: the dog can't go anywhere, and she's just way on away. 197 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 3: Punch after punch after punch. They got video of two 198 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 3: different dogs, won a white one, one a blacky. 199 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 5: Wait a second, there's nobody else in the room with 200 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 5: that person that's abusing the dogs. 201 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 2: Well, somebody was and they took video. 202 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 5: Okay, so there. 203 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 2: They didn't stop her. They took the video. Where is this? 204 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: Let me see? 205 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 5: Here is this? A local grooming. 206 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: Salon North Carolina. 207 00:10:55,960 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 3: Kristin Raya Taylor arrested charged with four counts of fell 208 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 3: any animal cruelty. She was the employee brutalizing dogs at 209 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 3: a grooming business called Classy Critters. 210 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: And I mean what. 211 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 3: And these were sweet dogs and they weren't even fighting 212 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 3: back or barking or anything. They were just taking the 213 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 3: bunches and she's wailing away. 214 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 5: I don't know what the hell is that. 215 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 2: I don't I've never seen that. 216 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 5: I'm not looking. 217 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 2: No, don't look, No. 218 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 5: I refused to look. 219 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 2: So very upsetting. 220 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 5: You know, I was going to text you guys this morning. 221 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 5: I was watching ABC seven, but I couldn't find it, 222 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 5: and then I got distracted. There was there was somebody 223 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 5: that was arrested. This was locally, I believe, and it 224 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 5: was outside. The dog, beautiful dog was sitting on a 225 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 5: curb and it had a leash and the owner was 226 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 5: just slapping the dog, slapping, slapping, slapping, and the dog 227 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 5: wasn't doing anything. 228 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: It's a lot of a lot of anger and mental illness. 229 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 5: I mean, do people get off on that. 230 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 2: People do that to their kids a lot? 231 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know that's true. I mean, I guess you 232 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 5: feel so powerful because the dog or the child isn't 233 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 5: able to fight back. 234 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 3: I know, it's mental illness, it's anger, and you've got yeah, 235 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 3: you've got someone who has to sit and take it. 236 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 5: How dare you abuse a dog, somebody's dog and a 237 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 5: grooming salon? Now I do take my dogs to get groomed. Now, 238 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 5: not that this really matters, but I have said in 239 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 5: the past when the people that I do like, they 240 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 5: leave and I say, look, I want the sweetest, kindest, 241 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 5: most gentle person that knows how to deal with dogs 242 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 5: and aren't mean nasty. 243 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 3: You would think that only happens once, Right, the first 244 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 3: time you punch a dog, somebody reports you and and 245 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 3: you're you're thrown out of the place and the police 246 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 3: are called. 247 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 2: Right, but she must have been doing this for a while. 248 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 5: Well unless the person that was recording her, they they 249 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 5: were the ones that got her fired. You know, they 250 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 5: saw it, but I just got it and they got 251 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 5: off on watching somebody do that. 252 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 2: I don't think this is the first day of her 253 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 2: life that she was punching. 254 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 5: Dark Probably not, but maybe it was the first time 255 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 5: she got caught. 256 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 257 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 5: Was it a hurt, it was he? 258 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: It was a her. 259 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to punch her. 260 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 261 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 3: Well, now what I what I mentioned before the news 262 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 3: Running Canyon is in the Hollywood area. 263 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 2: Uh, and I've walked there. It's in the Hollywood Hills. 264 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 2: It's really nice. 265 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: Uh. 266 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 3: They had two fires there in the past week, within 267 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 3: three days of each other. There was a third fire 268 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 3: two weeks ago on a hiking trail and I don't 269 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 3: know if you saw the video went around, but hikers 270 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 3: found the guy and tackled him and held him down. 271 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 3: Now he got arrested. But now there's been two more fires, 272 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 3: and we are in the fire season. We've now had 273 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 3: an extended period of dry weather and once you get 274 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 3: into August, you're high fire season. In these news reports 275 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 3: covering the two new fires, they mentioned the one from 276 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 3: two weeks ago, and apparently the guy they arrested had 277 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 3: previously been arrested fifteen times since twenty twenty, homeless guy 278 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 3: fifteen times. And how I know what's going on? They don't. 279 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 3: They don't prosecute anything. I guess this was the This 280 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 3: was the gascon era, and so setting fires was not 281 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 3: that should put you in prison, that should put you 282 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 3: in a mental institution. Because there's one hiker there who 283 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 3: says it's a mental health issue in general, and that's 284 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 3: what it is. They have obsessions with setting fires. In 285 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 3: six months, residents have counted seven fires. They've complained. No 286 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 3: officials have gotten back to them, nor they're city councilwoman, 287 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 3: this colossal idiot, Nythia Ramen, who's one of these socialist 288 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 3: communists and one of the residents, says she has not 289 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 3: addressed us. She has not let us know if there's 290 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 3: an investigation, even from back in January. This is ridiculous. 291 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 3: We deserve to know what's going on, because there's been 292 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 3: seven fires since January. We're lucky this place hasn't caught 293 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 3: fire and has come down into the residential neighborhood. It's 294 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 3: very much like the Palisades, where you have the hills, 295 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 3: it's very dry, and then the fire can come down 296 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 3: if you have sant Ana wins, it'll blow it to 297 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 3: the south and west, and there's a lot of residences there. 298 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 3: And we've gone through this with Nythia Ramen. You cannot 299 00:15:55,760 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 3: get her to care about anything. She does not care 300 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 3: about the degradation of the city. I saw an explanation 301 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 3: as to why these politicians allow all the crazy homeless 302 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 3: mental patient. 303 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: Drug addicts. 304 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 3: They don't think that their job and I've put Nithi 305 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 3: Romin in this category. She doesn't think her job is 306 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 3: to make the streets safe for the privileged. I had 307 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 3: never thought of it exactly those terms before, but when 308 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 3: I saw it written in one of these stories, it's like, 309 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 3: I exactly, there you go. That's what it is. They 310 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 3: look at us as a bunch of spoiled, bratty whiners 311 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 3: because we want to walk around safe streets, and they're 312 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 3: looking at us saying, no, no, no, you're privileged. You're 313 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 3: the oppressors. These homeless mental patient drug addicts are the oppressed, 314 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 3: so make room for them. It's not fair. And what 315 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 3: you're a comfortable, you feel in danger. Nitthia Raman doesn't care. 316 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 3: And if I can just somehow get that through everybody's head, 317 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 3: is that she wants it. 318 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 2: This way. Karen Bass wants it this way. 319 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 3: All these other left wing socialist, communist politicians on the 320 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 3: City Council. They think it's fair that us privileged people 321 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 3: put up with the discomfort because we have profited from 322 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 3: this American system and these poor souls have not, and 323 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 3: we are living in relative wealth compared to these homeless 324 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 3: mental patients and drug addicts, and so that's why they 325 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 3: cover for them, that's why they fund them, that's why 326 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 3: they I read another homeless story today because you know, 327 00:17:55,680 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 3: Losa has a new director, and all these people in 328 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 3: the homeless industry insist that if we just built everyone housing, 329 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 3: the problem would go away. They're homeless because of a 330 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 3: lack of housing. They completely reject, at least publicly. It's 331 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 3: their stick, the idea that they're mentally ill and they're 332 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 3: addicted to drugs. They don't care, and that's why they 333 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 3: never spend any money on mental health or drugs. They 334 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 3: spend it on nonprofit boondoggles. They just steal the money. 335 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 3: It's a great cover. Again, I've been talked about this repeatedly. 336 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 3: They make you feel guilty for not wanting to help 337 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 3: the homeless, and then they steal the money and then 338 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 3: tell you, well, we should be building housing. 339 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobel's on Demand from KFI AM 340 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 4: six forty. 341 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 3: We are on every day from one until four o'clock. 342 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 3: After four o'clock John Cobelt's Show on Demand, we have 343 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 3: reached thirty thousand followers on social media at John Cobelt. 344 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 2: When we started the show. 345 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 3: We needed three and we got the three, so you 346 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 3: can continue following. We'd just like to celebrate these milestones, 347 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 3: so thanks very much. Well, we'll try to put out 348 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 3: entertaining and compelling clips of the show for you and 349 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 3: other things. All right, Brian Coberger, who is the murderer. 350 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 3: He is now going to be in prison forever, four 351 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 3: consecutive life terms. He killed four University of Idaho students, 352 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 3: three women and one of their boyfriends, and now they're 353 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 3: releasing I guess this would have been the evidence had 354 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 3: this thing come to trial. The huge document dumps by 355 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 3: the prosecution, and they had interviewed a number of people 356 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 3: who knew Coburger or interacted with him in some way, 357 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:01,479 Speaker 3: including a guy an inmate when he was is in 358 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 3: prison awaiting trial. They were in maximum security prison together, 359 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 3: and so they asked this other inmate what was he like, 360 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 3: and the inmates said, a bleeping weirdo. In fact, if 361 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 3: it wasn't for legal consequences, he would have assaulted Coburger. 362 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 3: Asked whether Coburger committed the murders, the guy said, yes, 363 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 3: his eyes tell a story. Just look in the eyes, 364 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 3: and you know it's true. Murderers, serial killers, they have 365 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 3: dead eyes. 366 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 2: I don't know exactly what that is. 367 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 3: You know, it's hard to describe why eyes like communicate 368 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 3: things in a certain way, but you know it when you. 369 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:50,479 Speaker 2: Look at it. 370 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, very true. 371 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 3: Right, Yes, you know there are people. I can tell 372 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 3: if people are intelligent or not by looking in their eyes. Really, yes, 373 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 3: people with dumb eyes. 374 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 5: I didn't know that. 375 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 2: Oh it's true. 376 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 5: Okay. 377 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 2: And then crazy people you can tell. 378 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 5: Yes, crazy people, that's ovi. 379 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 2: You have nice eyes. 380 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 5: Okay, thank you. Although sometimes you tell me I have 381 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 5: crazy Well. 382 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 2: You're capable of pulling off the crazy eyes. 383 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 384 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 5: I do that just to be weird and just to 385 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 5: irritate you. 386 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 2: I know, I know you scare me and unnerve me 387 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 2: when you do that. It's in you. 388 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 5: No, it's not in me. I'm an actor, Okay, an actor. 389 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 3: Another inmate at the Latack County Jail described a number 390 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 3: of encounters with Coburger and said that he would frequently 391 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,719 Speaker 3: ask the inmate about his past crimes. I want to 392 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 3: know why he was being held in maximum security, said 393 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 3: Coburger was the smartest person he'd met while incarcerated. Well, 394 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 3: that's not hard to but Coburger had a lot of 395 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 3: irritating obsessive habits. Where we're talking to the other day 396 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 3: about these guys have obsessive compulsive disorders to the extreme, 397 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 3: and the obsession could be fantasies about killing people or 398 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 3: raping well. Coburger reportedly washed his hands dozens of times 399 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 3: a day. He would spend forty five minutes to an 400 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 3: hour in the shower, so he was constantly trying to 401 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 3: trying to maybe just wash all the dirty, ugly thoughts 402 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 3: out of his mind. He rarely slept at night. He 403 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 3: would nap during the day. At night he would pace 404 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 3: the cell and just constantly wash his hands. Coburger would 405 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 3: talk with his mother on video chat for hours. During 406 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 3: During one such call, the inmate was watching sports. Okay, 407 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 3: so Coburger is talking to his mother. The inmate suddenly yelled, 408 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 3: you suck at a player on the TVs. Coburger immediately 409 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 3: got out, got up and put his face real close 410 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 3: to the inmates because he took the comment personally. Now 411 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 3: here's one of my favorites. Somebody matched up with Coburger 412 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 3: on a dating. 413 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 5: App while they're into serial killer. 414 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 3: That was the This is why I'm telling you, if 415 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 3: you're a woman, never go on a dating app. I 416 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 3: don't care what people say. There are all kinds of criminals, 417 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 3: serial killers, guys who are fantasizing about going on a 418 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 3: murder sprae or going on some kind of a sexual attack. 419 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 3: That's what you find on dating sites. Why do you 420 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 3: think I went to AM radio to find a girlfriend? 421 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 3: That's right, you're selling your body an AM radio. Well, 422 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 3: during the fall of twenty twenty two, this woman and 423 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 3: you're going to get a clue as to why they 424 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 3: might have matched. The two of them started chatting on 425 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 3: ten and they discussed his background as a criminology student. 426 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 3: There shared interest in movies, and they started talking to 427 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 3: each other about the idea of death, and the woman 428 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 3: volunteered to Coburger what she thought the worst way to 429 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 3: die would be. 430 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 5: What'd she say? 431 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 3: Now, you know, before I got married, I was on 432 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 3: a fair number of dates. I don't remember a girl 433 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 3: ever volunteering the worst way to die? 434 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 5: You, I don't think I've ever discussed that with anybody. 435 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 2: Did you ever bring that up? 436 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: Now? No? All right? 437 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 3: Well he she told Coburger the worst way to die would. 438 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 2: Be by knife? 439 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 5: Oh jeez. 440 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 3: And Coburger replied, replied, like a k bar. And that 441 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 3: is the knife that's very popular. It was adopted by 442 00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 3: the Marine Corps their utility knife. It's called ka hyphen bar, 443 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 3: a k bar. This goes back one hundred years. And 444 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 3: he offered like a K bar. Well, they found a 445 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 3: K bar sheath at the crime scene, and they found 446 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 3: that he had purchased a k bar knife and sheath 447 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 3: on Amazon before the homicides. Yes, you could go to 448 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 3: Amazon for your murder weapons. After the conversation petered out, 449 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 3: they were going to meet over a Christmas holiday, but 450 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 3: she canceled. Coburger made her uncomfortable. 451 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 5: What did he do? What besides talking about this knife? 452 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 5: What else did he do? 453 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 2: Maybe just his general demeanor? Okay, I don't know. 454 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 3: There's no specifics, No, there's no specifics, but I guess 455 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 3: offering the brand of knife. 456 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 5: Well, I'm curious how much she engaged with him after 457 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:00,120 Speaker 5: he said that. 458 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 3: It says after that conversation. I don't know, so it's 459 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 3: not written all that clearly, so I don't know. 460 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 5: I would love to talk to her now and say, hmm, 461 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 5: what do. 462 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 2: You think around Yeah, I know they. 463 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 3: After the murders, she tried to contact authorities, but the 464 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 3: detective said the call could not be verified. 465 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 2: They couldn't corroborate the tip. 466 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 4: So I don't know. 467 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 2: Maybe she just disappeared because who wants to get involved 468 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,239 Speaker 2: in this? All right, We've got more coming up. 469 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 470 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 4: six forty. 471 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 2: Coming up after three o'clock. 472 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 3: We spent a lot of time in the first hour 473 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 3: with Michael Monks reporting on the changing of the guard 474 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 3: of there's a new director for that loss of atrocity 475 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 3: Los Angeles Housing Services Authority, you know, the one that 476 00:26:53,640 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 3: has failed miserably for decades reducing homelessness. Homeless This has 477 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 3: actually increased dramatically since they created LASA, and Valisi Adams 478 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 3: Kellum is resigning. 479 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: You know. 480 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 2: A judge ordered an audit. 481 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 3: The audit found two billion dollars unaccounted for she can't 482 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 3: explain it. The idiot who hired her, Karen Bass, can't 483 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 3: explain it either. So they're getting somebody new and the 484 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 3: county has pulled out entirely. 485 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 2: We'll go through that, but with the backdrop of. 486 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 3: Trump's announcement that he's issuing an executive order and he 487 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 3: wants all the homeless people off the street all over 488 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 3: the country, all the mental patients, all the drug addicts gone. 489 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 2: Now, how he's going to do that, Well, we'll give you. 490 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 3: We'll give you an explanation as to what it's an 491 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 3: executive order that's going to make it easier to remove 492 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 3: homeless people. All right, I've got to explain that if 493 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 3: I can. But you know what, you. 494 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 2: Know, what you do. 495 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 3: What's needed is like an absolute order, and it's like, no, 496 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 3: they're going to be gone. 497 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 2: Enough of this. They have spent billions. It went up. 498 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 3: I don't care how many times they try to defend 499 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 3: themselves and explain themselves. They are colossal failures. They have 500 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 3: to be taken off the streets. The cities that don't 501 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 3: have homeless people, and these mental patients and drug addicts 502 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 3: simply don't permit it. 503 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 2: And enough is enough, No more. Debating this no more 504 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 2: going in circles. 505 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 3: There is no way to fix this problem other than 506 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 3: forcing people, forcing people like police, taking them at gunpoint 507 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 3: if necessary, and putting them inside a mental institution or 508 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 3: a treatment center. 509 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 2: Period. 510 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 3: And that's what we have to work towards. So we'll 511 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 3: talk about that coming up. This is hard to believe, 512 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 3: you know, the city is crumbling and it's costing us 513 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 3: an incredible amount of money. You go back, you go 514 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 3: back just four years ago. Ron Galprian was the city 515 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 3: controller and he found that La had received seventeen hundred 516 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 3: claims and over a thousand lawsuits people saying they got 517 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 3: injured walking on the sidewalk. The city paid out thirty 518 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 3: five million lawsuits in the five years leading up to 519 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, thirty five million people tripping and falling, 520 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 3: and still the sidewalks weren't fixed. Now, the big headline 521 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 3: in the La Daily News that at least in one 522 00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 3: section of the city in the northern San Fernando John 523 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 3: Lee is the councilman, they have a new program to 524 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 3: repair the sidewalks, and this gets a big news story 525 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 3: to big headline. This should be this is what's infuriating 526 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 3: about the Garcetti Bass years, the basic simple stuff was 527 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 3: never done, and whatever it costs to fix sidewalks is 528 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 3: dwarfed by the cost of the lawsuits from all the 529 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 3: people who tripped and got hurt walking on the sidewalks. 530 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 3: So then you do it in parts of Granada Hills, Chatsworth, 531 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 3: north Ridge, Port of Ranch, Vercida, and West Hills. Uh. 532 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 3: It sends small crews to make minor sidewalk repairs that 533 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 3: otherwise languish for years and become big problems. 534 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 2: Like tree roots, right, I. 535 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,239 Speaker 5: See them all over the place in the valley here. 536 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 2: You walk a lot. 537 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I worry about tripping. I'm not kidding. 538 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to constantly be looking down because the 539 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 3: sidewalks are an even the roots pushed them up. 540 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 2: Sometimes it crack the sidewalks. 541 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 3: I am astonished, how how how the city has crumbled 542 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 3: into literally little pieces the roads. So it's a small project. 543 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 3: He's getting a couple one hundred thousand dollars from these 544 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 3: different funds, and he just wants to complete twenty projects. 545 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 3: It's a pilot program. What is it to see if 546 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 3: it works? 547 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: Well? 548 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 2: Of course it'll work. 549 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 3: They've been fixing sidewalks for I know since the beginning 550 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 3: of sidewalks. It's the amount of money that is wasted 551 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 3: on lawsuits. It's tremendous. 552 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 2: And U. 553 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 3: I'm what surprised me reading the story is how it 554 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 3: is treated like like some great breakthrough, like John Lee 555 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 3: should get some a standing ovation, maybe an awards dinner. 556 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 3: This this is all I want these hacks to do. 557 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 3: I don't want all their stupid social experiments which all 558 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 3: end up in failure. Pave the streets, fixed the roads fully, 559 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 3: thund the fire and police department. I don't know what else, 560 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 3: nothing else matters, get rid of all the social programs, 561 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 3: tell people to go get a job and figure it 562 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 3: out themselves. But yeah, yeah, like like like no money 563 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 3: spent on the sidewalks, and you have literally thousands of lawsuits, 564 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 3: billions spent on the homeless, and we ended up with 565 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 3: a vast increase in homelessness. They are so correct, you know, 566 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 3: I'd like to call them stupid because I enjoy calling 567 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 3: them stupid. They are stupid, but they primarily are corrupt. 568 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 3: All right, when we come back this Trump Executive Order 569 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 3: to end street Homelessness, we'll give you some details see 570 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 3: how this is going to work. But he's decided that 571 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,479 Speaker 3: you know what, I kind of like. It's like, if 572 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 3: the local cities and states don't clean up their messes, 573 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 3: he's going to use every lever the federalment government has 574 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 3: to force them. That's next. Deborah Mark Live in the 575 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 3: KFI twenty four hour Newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to 576 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 3: the John Cobalt Show podcast. 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