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Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Alicia. I still love you, but

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Speaker 4: In the first matchups, there is nothing like that.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, look, I think what happened the

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Speaker 3: Because Pier and she gets up for big moments. Because

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Speaker 2: Was really hoping Belarus would win at least me too,

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Speaker 3: I remember they played the United States and Lisa Raymond,

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Speaker 4: No, she goes, she goes.

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Speaker 3: Seriously, you have no idea. They're so good these girls.

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Speaker 3: I like, whatever, who Sabi Linco and Sasanovic? Ye, well

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Speaker 3: Sure I was wrong, I take it back.

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Speaker 3: Because of Bob And she bec Monica sell Us in

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Speaker 2: watching the men right now. Zverev won yesterday Tizibos one

438
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Speaker 2: against Medvedev, which is a match that he had previously

439
00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,440
Speaker 2: gone zero to five team beat Federer. Do you think

440
00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,400
Speaker 2: it's just the three set thing in the men's finals

441
00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,920
Speaker 2: that allows for sort of this variety that we see,

442
00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,400
Speaker 2: because obviously za Zverev won it last year as well,

443
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,399
Speaker 2: hasn't been able to really break through it meters. What

444
00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 2: is it about this sort of like condensed, all eyes,

445
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,680
Speaker 2: spart like final run that you think some players really

446
00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:08,119
Speaker 2: respond to.

447
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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's indoors as well. Yeah, I mean, obviously,

448
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,600
Speaker 3: poor old Ruffil Nadal is never going to win an

449
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,919
Speaker 3: a top Masters because it's always played indoors. But but

450
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,480
Speaker 3: I think that's part of it. I think the three

451
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,119
Speaker 3: set format is obvious. I mean, this is why I

452
00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,320
Speaker 3: sort of, you know, have this fight sometimes about the

453
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Speaker 3: best of five in Grand Slams, you know, and this

454
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Speaker 3: is why you don't have the variety of champions winning

455
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 3: or players winning Grand Slams, because over five sets, to

456
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Speaker 3: beat a Novak or a Roger, a Rafa as just

457
00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 3: a bear because mentally to be out there for three

458
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 3: four hours is so difficult. But which is why you

459
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,240
Speaker 3: see he's very winning a lot of really big tournaments

460
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Speaker 3: and not slam Linger because mentally he just can't keep

461
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Speaker 3: his shit together.

462
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:46,400
Speaker 2: But who can?

463
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Speaker 3: But I mean, so I don't know, there's a there's

464
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 3: an argument for that's why you best of three would

465
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 3: bring in more champions to the sport as well more names.

466
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Speaker 3: I don't know. Obviously with the women, we see that

467
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,679
Speaker 3: that's why we see more women winning different Grand Slams

468
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,680
Speaker 3: because over three sets, it's.

469
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think that's it.

470
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:03,720
Speaker 3: And also they're tired, like.

471
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Speaker 4: The top I was just going to say an age.

472
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you think about it, Rafa and Roger are

473
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,200
Speaker 1: the oldest and the whole rosta of the ATP finals,

474
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,160
Speaker 1: and it's the end of the year. The men's play

475
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 1: much longer than the women's doing. It's dizzy.

476
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 4: It's way too long. The season is way too long.

477
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,479
Speaker 1: Half of them are injured, half of them can sustain

478
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Speaker 1: throughout the and the advantage they have Novak, Rafa and Roja,

479
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 1: they are so good that they have the privilege of scheduling. Yeah,

480
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:33,120
Speaker 1: thing better, but still late November. It's hard to keep

481
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 1: to sustain your quality, it's hard. And they are older.

482
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Speaker 1: Raja's thirty seven, thirty eight, thirty seven. He's always looked

483
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Speaker 1: like he's thirty seven. Now he's finally come to his age.

484
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 1: When he was eighteen, he already looked like thirty seven.

485
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 1: He can even feel hard again. Yeah, and I feel

486
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Speaker 1: like in twenty years he's still going to look thirty seven.

487
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Speaker 4: Good for him.

488
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, And Rafa, obviously, the way he plays, he's very physical.

489
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 1: He wins, and that's also something to consider. Novak is

490
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Speaker 1: somebody who wins matches one and one and he comes

491
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Speaker 1: off and you feel like he hasn't sweat.

492
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Speaker 4: If Ruffo wins one and one.

493
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's pouring. He's still pouring.

494
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 1: He broke three knees, he lost one leg, he lost

495
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 1: half of his hand, and he's like coming out like like.

496
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 4: Bleeding angels coming from.

497
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Speaker 1: So you know, you have to consider also the way

498
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Speaker 1: they are playing, and and I think that's when the

499
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 1: young guys can can step up and take their chances,

500
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 1: when they show a little weakness and they smell the

501
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 1: blood and then they can can grab.

502
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Speaker 4: Them by the You can say it penis.

503
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 3: Okay, that would hurt the way. Well, I'm not a guy,

504
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 3: so I don't know. Send us your answers to what

505
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 3: hurts your penis anyway, dick kicks, I will say. Also,

506
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 3: let's face it, I mean, yeah, it's very prestigious obviously

507
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 3: to win this tournament. I mean it's the you know,

508
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 3: technically the fifth biggest tournament of the year. But you know,

509
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 3: the Rogers and Ruffers and Novak's they don't count how

510
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 3: many end of your finals they win. They count the

511
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Speaker 3: Grand Slams. And I hate to say that because it

512
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 3: should mean something. But you know, when you after the

513
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 3: US opens down, someone like Rafa and Roger are like, eh,

514
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 3: shut it down.

515
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Speaker 1: I mean you see it with Roger, where does he

516
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: play battle? It's not a particular prestigious tournament.

517
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 4: In his backyard. It's just, oh, I live here, I

518
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:16,239
Speaker 4: might as well win it.

519
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

520
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you can see how little it matters to

521
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 1: him in that way where he's like, I'm not going

522
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: to play any tournaments except the one that happens to

523
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Speaker 1: be in my backyard.

524
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Speaker 2: Well, let's talk just at first second about the YearIn finals,

525
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Speaker 2: and then I want to bring up fashion, because we

526
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Speaker 2: have our illustrious fashion correspondence. Well, I have some thoughts,

527
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 2: per usual, and then we were going to get to

528
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Speaker 2: all the amazing questions that people sent in, and they

529
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Speaker 2: sent in plenty, some of which we've already sort of

530
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Speaker 2: talked about. But before we get there, one thing that

531
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Speaker 2: I noticed on the women's side is like, the same

532
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 2: players you're in you're out, tend to really push hard

533
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Speaker 2: in this last swing. And I have to say, like

534
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Speaker 2: Elena's Fidelina, to her great credit, like this is her

535
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 2: favorite time of year and she always does really well

536
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 2: in the year and championships. Why why Fidelina, Like what

537
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 2: is this moment? The last year she won it? This year,

538
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 2: obviously she came very close.

539
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 3: I don't know. The court speed for me is perfect

540
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 3: for her. You know, it's it's medium pass pace, it's

541
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 3: a good surface, it doesn't bounce super high, so it's

542
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 3: always in her hitting and striking zone. She likes pace.

543
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 3: She can then redirect, she can use her speed around

544
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 3: the court. It's very hard to hit winners on that court, so.

545
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 2: Way maybe has a hard time.

546
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Speaker 4: Then well, well, just.

547
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Speaker 3: Because Plishkov has has made the Semis now three years

548
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 3: in a row and has had good wins there, but

549
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 3: she can't finish it off because she plays against the

550
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Speaker 3: Switzerlina or a Sloan Stephens previously, even though she was

551
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Speaker 3: up sixty fifteen, who's and then you know previously those

552
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 3: types of players counter punch her speed and make her

553
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 3: play one more ball, Like you know, she obviously beat Hallett,

554
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Speaker 3: but that was six four and the third and how

555
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 3: it wasn't the confidence wasn't there for her after Wimbledon,

556
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 3: and physically with her back, she's been struggling. But I

557
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 3: think that at some point, you know, someone like Switelina

558
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 3: just frustrates the living daylights out of these top players

559
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 3: and the ball keeps coming back. But it is incredible.

560
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 3: I mean, she lost that match against Ash in the final,

561
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Speaker 3: but up until then she had lost a match in

562
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Speaker 3: the Championships.

563
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Speaker 4: She has a set.

564
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's incredible. I just think she brings it on.

565
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 3: And I mean, and you wouldn't want to try for

566
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 3: six for four and a half fucking million dollars.

567
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's for sure.

568
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Speaker 1: I think everyone would try. Has but done to make

569
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: me and I think what's what's not too What has

570
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Speaker 1: to be considered as well is that these solid players,

571
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Speaker 1: these counterpunchers, for some reason, I wonder if if it

572
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: has something to do with explosiveness of muscles, they are

573
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Speaker 1: much better able to keep and sustain their level throughout

574
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Speaker 1: the whole year. I saw really interesting statistics. It was

575
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Speaker 1: a week two years ago. Sorry no, I love Whereosniaki.

576
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Speaker 1: So they had a statistic of the four quarters of

577
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Speaker 1: the year and how much percentage of matches she would win.

578
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Speaker 1: And she was at an average of like forty five

579
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Speaker 1: to forty eight when she was playing fine, and then

580
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Speaker 1: at a fifty one percent of matches she would win, and.

581
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Speaker 4: Every time in the fourth quarter.

582
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Speaker 1: Of the year she went up to sixty eight, which

583
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Speaker 1: tells me because she's a similar player to Switch, she

584
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Speaker 1: was the Advanska, the same Radvanska won Tokyo and which

585
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 1: was back then Buchan, so Tokyo was one of the

586
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 1: biggest turns, and then Beijing and.

587
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Speaker 4: Mandatory she wants. She was the first player to win.

588
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: These two tournaments in a row, which was unheard of

589
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: because at the end of the year, everyone's tired.

590
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 3: Hey, by the way, check out her last two.

591
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, if you have not caught up in the feed,

592
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 2: Redvanska joined Renee in Shinden.

593
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Speaker 3: It was great to.

594
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Speaker 1: And and I think that these players are just have

595
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Speaker 1: better abilities to sustain their level over the year, to

596
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: keep the level where somebody like an Osaka, who plays

597
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,719
Speaker 1: very explosive, very powerful tennis, she had one good year

598
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 1: where she won the year end finals, I think, but she.

599
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Speaker 3: Won everything that year exactly literally won six and they're

600
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 3: all indoors.

601
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: So it's really hard I think for those players that

602
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: are explosive, players that play hard like plisco at it

603
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: rely on the one punch and especially the slower.

604
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 4: The courts get.

605
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, the year and finals, the harder it is for them.

606
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: And and I've seen it a year after year.

607
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 2: Now, and I'm not sure those percentages would be you know,

608
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 2: peaks and valleys right like certain tournaments, they feel comfortable

609
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 2: certain services at certain times when they feel And I like.

610
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 3: The faster courts too, because I believe it or not,

611
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 3: everyone's like, well, a faster court suit someone like a

612
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 3: Carolina or whatever, and we're, you know, committer, which is

613
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 3: true if you're serving well. If they're not serving well,

614
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 3: it's actually frustrating because the counterpunchers use that pace to

615
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 3: then redirect the ball. And I mean, I think also

616
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,479
Speaker 3: at the end of the year, the big hitters, you know,

617
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 3: you have to not get frustrated. When you're a big hitter,

618
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 3: you have to Okay, the ball's coming back, Yeah, okay,

619
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 3: keep grinding. Sometimes you got to keep grinding. And if

620
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 3: you're not, if you don't have the mentality to hang

621
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,719
Speaker 3: in there, you're like yeah, and you make a mistake.

622
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know.

623
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 2: I mean, it's that's what it is.

624
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 3: It's a crossroads in the middle of point where you're

625
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 3: running for a forehand or running for a back and

626
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 3: you're like, all right, should I drill this back cross court?

627
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 3: It go down the line, I missed it.

628
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh well yeah, yeah, just get annoyed. But at

629
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 1: one point where you don't get annoyed, maybe in the

630
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: earlier in the year. But it's really interesting to look

631
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: at that.

632
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 3: But she didn't win the tournament. Ash body did.

633
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 4: Hey, yes, well is not really a big hitter either.

634
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: If you can see she plays like she's a she's

635
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 1: just so smart or court player.

636
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 3: Yes, she uses the sly, she has her backism. Definitely,

637
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 3: the two hander is improved.

638
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: She drives her her forehand. She really gets you off

639
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: the off the court. You give her a football, she

640
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: comes in. She's a great but she's not considered a

641
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: big hitter.

642
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: I would say, yeah, she's noting or first right.

643
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 3: No, she's actually got a very big surf. I mean she's.

644
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: My hate, you know, I can't believe that.

645
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 4: She's really she's a little taller.

646
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 3: No, she's fine five really, No, she's a little.

647
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 2: We can look it up.

648
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 3: I don't know.

649
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: But maybe that's how I am one hundred and fifty

650
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: pounds in my profile, Like.

651
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 3: Maybe years Serena hasn't changed her profile.

652
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 4: I got onto technically, we're not lying. I was one

653
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty pounds. I was five years old.

654
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 2: We could weigh you now after your off season of

655
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 2: beers and oh my god.

656
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,479
Speaker 3: No, Ash just has a of this motion and she

657
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 3: gets all the pop out of it, and it's quick motion,

658
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 3: so it's hard to reach its.

659
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 2: Technically, it's also beautiful. There's no hedge.

660
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 4: It's pretty pretty. You're right, it's really really hard to read,

661
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 4: really hard.

662
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: Yes, that's the that's the thing, because you get ready,

663
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: you see the sudden it's yeah, yeah, it's weird.

664
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 2: You played her this year.

665
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 4: I played that's her best. When she thinks I wanted her,

666
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 4: it was a joke because I was playing. Okay, I

667
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 4: didn't play.

668
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: I definitely didn't play my best match, but you know

669
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: these matches when I had the similar experience with Osaka,

670
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: well you know you're not playing your best.

671
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 4: But you have the feeling even if I play my best.

672
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: I would have probably lost four and four and two brutal,

673
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: but I still don't think I could win this, And

674
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,959
Speaker 1: that's very, very rarely I have this feeling because I

675
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: am somebody who can beat these big players. But those

676
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: were two I had it also once with Serena. Those

677
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: were the three matches where I played not great, but

678
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: where I had the feeling even if I did play

679
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: my best best tennis, I probably would have still lost

680
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: like straight sets. Yeah, it was really interesting.

681
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: It's okay, you have you haven't You did, and you

682
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: lost a frindsh Open match to ash Party, who went

683
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: on to win the tournament, obviously her first Grand Slam.

684
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 3: And it's you. Whoever beats you at the French wins

685
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 3: the tournament.

686
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, last year I lost in the third round to

687
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: Halep and then she won the tournament.

688
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 2: You should get paid, people should ask to.

689
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 3: Be but I was the perfect practice partner.

690
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: No, I think I should get paid just regardless of anything.

691
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 4: But nobody feels this.

692
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 2: We're giving you a ton of money to do this podcast, right, Yeah,

693
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 2: fashion carving me a cold brew.

694
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 3: Coffee, Well I'm drinking it though.

695
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 2: No. Okay, can we briefly touch on my favorite topic?

696
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: Maybe you guys have given this a lot of thought,

697
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: maybe you haven't. But I want to introduce two outfits

698
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 2: as my favorite and least favorite of the year, and

699
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: then I want you guys to tell me what you think. Okay,

700
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: I personally thought the we.

701
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 3: Have very different types, but god, we do.

702
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 2: I think listeners can draw their own conclusions as to

703
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 2: whose taste they want to trust.

704
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 4: No, no, no shots fired.

705
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 2: No shots fired. The tool kits at the French Open

706
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 2: from Nike with all those cool skeleton people. It was

707
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: sort of weird, but I thought it was really great.

708
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: There was a lot of like black and white and

709
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 2: a very sort of like strange print, and I think

710
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 2: it looked good against the red of the clay. And

711
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 2: I thought it was cool and weird. And I've seen

712
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: civilians aka me types who play on the courts for

713
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 2: no money or glory and have painful forehands or whatever

714
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 2: look really good at it. So I feel like it

715
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 2: was like a real high point of the year. Like

716
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: I liked that they kind of went weird, and I

717
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: thought it looked pretty good. It looked good on Switelin,

718
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: it looked good on like Dan Evans, like everyone who

719
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: kind of showed Taylor Flick Fritz pulled it out pretty well.

720
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 2: I thought everyone kind of looked.

721
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 4: Good in it.

722
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: I agreed that the black for some reason looks really

723
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: good against the red of the clay, like every time

724
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: they bring And I know it was a very controversial

725
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: outfit that added US with the zebra.

726
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: Oh the y three.

727
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was great.

728
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: I loved it.

729
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 4: I mean I kind of did too.

730
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: And I spoke to one added US representative at that

731
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: time and he told me that they.

732
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: Know it, added us adds, Yeah, and he.

733
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: Told me basically that this a collection was something they

734
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: didn't care how much that was a We talked about

735
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: this Caitlin before. It was like a solely brand building

736
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: thing where they were like they just wanted to go

737
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: viral on social media. They just wanted to be talked

738
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: about and they didn't really care how much it sold,

739
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: and I think they really managed to. It was that

740
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: everyone was talking about it. Either people hated it or

741
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: people liked it. Yeah, And I feel the same way

742
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: because I was reading a lot on social media about

743
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: that outfits and people were either, this is the worst

744
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: thing I've ever seen, They're going for goth, the Adams

745
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: family is back, what's going on?

746
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 4: But I do agree that the black looked really great

747
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 4: against the red.

748
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Zebra. I think the famous screenshot that a

749
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 2: lot of people took was Team and Zverev playing against

750
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: each other because they were both sort of new to

751
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: the scene and everyone was trying to like check them out,

752
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 2: and they kind of had the hype of like being

753
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: an interesting preview of like what's to come, and they're

754
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 2: both wearing this like insane zebra and everyone was like

755
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 2: this is an atrocity or this is amazing, which I

756
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 2: thought was cool. You were saying this is so cool,

757
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 2: and I thought it was cool. But the second one

758
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 2: I really like is the Adidas parley. The stuff that

759
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 2: was at the that was last year's it was last year.

760
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, that's palace.

761
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 4: Oh palace.

762
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 2: Yeah you were supposed to bring me all of your

763
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: palace stuff?

764
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 4: Yeah did you? I didn't.

765
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't think.

766
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 3: I've been asking Petko for shit for years, and I

767
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 3: try to make you know what I get, you know

768
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 3: what I get in my apartment. I'll like, look at

769
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 3: the male I'm like, what the hell is this? What

770
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 3: if I ordered?

771
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 2: You know?

772
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 3: And then I'm like, this is so random. I'll open

773
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 3: the pack job and I'm like, what the fuck I

774
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 3: didn't order this? And then I'll look at the label

775
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 3: and says Andrea Petkovich, like, what the hell like ordering

776
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 3: ship and it's it's turning up in my apartment.

777
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 2: Wait, but is it for her?

778
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 4: For years?

779
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 3: Stuff in my apartment? I'm like, god, damn, I know

780
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 3: you know what?

781
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 4: Was it?

782
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 3: Some jacket one time? And I pulled this jacket.

783
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 4: I was like no, no, no, the skirt the plastics.

784
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the plastic skirt. That's right, it was a

785
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 3: plastic stick.

786
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: I know.

787
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 3: I order a lot of stuff online when I'm away, Like,

788
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 3: I ordered so much shit in China, and it is like,

789
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 3: what my next door neighbor, whose name happens to be Kaitlin,

790
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 3: She's cool, very cool. Yeah, Caitlyn's like went into like

791
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 3: she waters my plants. Thanks Caitlyn, she goes and waters

792
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: my plants. She's like, Ah, You've got a lot of

793
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 3: packages downstairs, you know, I kind of put them away anyway.

794
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 3: One time it came home and I opened it up

795
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I don't remember. Why Why would I

796
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 3: order a plastic skirt?

797
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 2: Was I drunk? I kind of want you to wear it?

798
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 4: Now?

799
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 3: Well did I? Well it fits me because we're the

800
00:34:59,280 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 3: same size.

801
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: Of the skirt because I have a background picture of

802
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: myself in that skirt on my phone.

803
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 3: Yes, well, there I go. And I was like, and

804
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 3: then I finally looked at the package and their screensavers.

805
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 2: She didn't even tell me, that's amazing. She didn't even

806
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 2: tell me that's amazing. Play back to fashion. Adidas Parlay

807
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 2: was this year's Australian Open. All the stuff that was

808
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 2: made from recycled water bottles, and it was sort of

809
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 2: sea foam green and there was a beautiful, nice, like

810
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 2: little pastel pink offset.

811
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 4: I thought it was great. The concept I really didn't like.

812
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 4: Did you like the color? Yeah?

813
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 3: I did.

814
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: I thought it was a flattering color.

815
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I want to the color. And

816
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 4: also I don't let you know what I don't like.

817
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 4: But that's maybe just me. I wanted to be like

818
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 4: tied to my body because.

819
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 3: She wants to show her hot.

820
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 2: That's what she's trying to tell.

821
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 4: And I've got.

822
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: Twenty I look amazing and people should know, and they

823
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: give me the top she's she's so either give me

824
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: a longer top that I can put into my skirts

825
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: so I can show off my waist, or give me

826
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 1: a crop thing where I can still show off my waist,

827
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: but don't give me the middle thing where I can

828
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: put it into my skirt and I can't show.

829
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 2: Show my my a pack exactly exactly.

830
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 4: I worked very hard for this.

831
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know you do.

832
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 2: You should have it.

833
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 3: I do agree with you. Yeah, that's and certain people

834
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 3: need that cutt.

835
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 4: To know me. I do.

836
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 3: I I'm looking at you like that it could be anything,

837
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 3: take it personal. No, no, I'm looking at you.

838
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 4: But let's let's talk about that a little bit.

839
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 3: Do you think we can I mean, I think the

840
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 3: change fashion of tennis.

841
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: No, no, no, that's not that. I think that people are

842
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: talking about environment. Greta turn Beric is a.

843
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 4: Big thing, and I mean tennis has a.

844
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: Real problem with the restringing of rackets, putting them into

845
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: plastic bags every single racket. There's a lot of things

846
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: that I think tennis community could do to save a

847
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: little bit on plastic, be a little bit more environmental friendly.

848
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: So I was really glad to be part of that

849
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: Ada's partly collection where it was like, let's at least

850
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: bring out the idea into the sports world that we

851
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: too can make a difference. If that's going to lead somewhere,

852
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: that's that's the question. But just to to create a

853
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: little awareness that sports not it's part of society, there's

854
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 1: an outward of society.

855
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 4: You know.

856
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,479
Speaker 1: I hate this when people are like, oh, don't stick

857
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: to sports. Why are you speaking about politics. It's not

858
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: like tenna or not tennis. Sports is outside of society

859
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: and outside of politics.

860
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 3: Well no, because what we're doing is where we're bringing,

861
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 3: you know, awareness to what happens behind the scenes, because

862
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 3: a lot of questions we get asked all the time

863
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 3: is you know, we want to behind the scenes stuff,

864
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 3: you know, which we try to do at racket is

865
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 3: bring sort of the stories of what happens. And yeah,

866
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 3: I mean Ralphiel Nadal. Every single player gets five, six,

867
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 3: seven eight rackets restrung every single day at a tournament.

868
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 3: So every day five or six of those plastic bags

869
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 3: go around those rackets. You see them when they go

870
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 3: on the court and they take it out of the

871
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 3: bag and they throw it and they give it to

872
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 3: the ballhead and the ball kid throws it in the

873
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 3: garbage and it's dolphin in chokes of dolphin. But I

874
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 3: mean it's true. It's like, come on, like tennis community,

875
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 3: let's come up with somebody, come up.

876
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 2: With a better idea of how to put these rackets.

877
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean plastic ba Well, I don't the

878
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: thing is all the stories uses.

879
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 3: Let me just say she she often takes them back,

880
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 3: like like in Shenzhen. She she said to the strings,

881
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 3: Oh no, he just put it in these bags again. Well,

882
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 3: the players can make an effort, I mean, so the.

883
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 4: Thing is what people say is right.

884
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: If you play with a gut string, in order to

885
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: protect attention, you put it in a in a bag

886
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: that is basically not giving it out to the outworldly

887
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: fractions whatever exactly. But all the bags come with thermal

888
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: parts in them, so I don't use plastic. I just

889
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: put them into the part where it's thermal protected. I

890
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: want to say, probably it's not the right word, but well,

891
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: thermo protected.

892
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 4: I just put it there.

893
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: I don't need a plastic bag, and I'm sure it's

894
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: just habits. And the thing is we're already one of

895
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: the We're not great on all carbohydrates footprint, I want

896
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: to say, with traveling carbon but.

897
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 3: You eat carbohydrates.

898
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 2: No, but the single use plastic bottles that are on

899
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 2: every single corn, every single match, it's hard to imagine

900
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 2: that that could be you know, sure like it couldn't

901
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: get you better? Yeah, like, couldn't you get some metal bottles?

902
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 3: And I say, also, I had this conversation literally with

903
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 3: Sam as Well in Shenzen coming we're getting very greeny

904
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 3: and you know, let's not talk about the greens because

905
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 3: Australia is literally on fire right now with the climate

906
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 3: change and as this podcast will go to air, hopefully

907
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 3: my mom's house will survive, because it's literally it's life

908
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 3: and death right there in Australia right now. Literally. And

909
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: so you know, we were talking about water bottles. I mean, guys,

910
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 3: you all think that water bottles stick in the fridge

911
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 3: and they're cold. They travel. How many times have you

912
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 3: seen like a big truck that's not not refrigerated as

913
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 3: all these bottles of water and that shit is sweating, okay,

914
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 3: and it's got it's got sun beating down. You see

915
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 3: these like at a concert, you know, and you see

916
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 3: a billion bottles like being lined up to be sold

917
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 3: and they're sitting in sun. They're sweating, and what's sweating

918
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 3: is toxicity into the water because of the plastic is

919
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 3: melting into the water. So you're getting carcinogens going into

920
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 3: the water. And you know everybody's drinking that they're went away,

921
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 3: Oh it's cancer so high? Well are you kidding? Every

922
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 3: one of us is drinking water out of a toxic

923
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 3: water bottle that's been sweating in sun somewhere in China.

924
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 3: I mean, so, I mean, and that's happening on tennis

925
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 3: courts every single day and gatorade bottles and all that

926
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 3: sort of stuff. So we have to be better. We

927
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 3: got to do better.

928
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 4: Just the one solution, and I think we can go

929
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 4: back to tennis. Just put a in Germany.

930
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: You know, when you buy a plastic bottle, you pay

931
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: a euro more and when you give it back you

932
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: get the euro back. So for tennis, it's hard maybe

933
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 1: to carry you know, some people.

934
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 4: Have to carry the metal or the glass bottles.

935
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 3: Wait, we just in Beijing that heard her back. Do

936
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 3: you remember the girl butts Cover takes her own water

937
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 3: bottle on the court every single time?

938
00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 4: Oh really?

939
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: I mean I take my water bottle for practices always,

940
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: but it's hard for because you don't have anything to

941
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 1: fill it up in the matches. But what I want

942
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: to say, just put a container in where the players

943
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: can throw in the plastic bottles and then recycle them.

944
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 4: Just bring them back, recycle them.

945
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: That's just what I'm going to try and going into also,

946
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: I mean, one of the biggest carbon footprints besides airline

947
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 2: travel beef plastic. But you know it's number one is clothing. No,

948
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 2: it's clothing.

949
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: Number one is having kids. Oh really, that's the biggest

950
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: environmental factor.

951
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 3: Of all the people sitting at this table. Your fault,

952
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 3: it's my fault.

953
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we are at a less than replacement level.

954
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 4: It's true. I mean, of course what am I going?

955
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: But technically, if we stopped having kids, everyone stopped having

956
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: kids today, the world would die, but climate would be great.

957
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 2: The animals would come back.

958
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe.

959
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 2: If that is not the number one, then one of

960
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 2: the top ones is the creation of clothing. Just the

961
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,720
Speaker 2: amount of water and waste that is produced by cloling

962
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 2: and meat. Yeah, same thing. It's a waste of water

963
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 2: in addition, and also like what gets cut down to

964
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 2: make them all.

965
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 3: Right, we'll look at podcasts another day of saving.

966
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 2: The worst clothing of the year before while I.

967
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 3: Have you, no, I get off clothing. I'm so bored

968
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 3: with you, you and your clothes. It's so important for

969
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 3: people who I just want to see shorter shorts on men.

970
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 3: We've already established that. Yeah, I'd like to see the

971
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 3: men's legs. Let's go back to the beyond borg FeelA

972
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 3: Dice like you know, and see these guys legs instead

973
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 3: of it down to their ankles, I mean, niece, and

974
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 3: with the women, yeah, let's uh, I don't know, but

975
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 3: there's a lot of there's a lot that can but.

976
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 4: Did you have one in mind that was the worst

977
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 4: of the year for you.

978
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, everything that Rafae and a doll wears, from the

979
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 2: tongues of his shoes to the really boxy shorts that

980
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 2: make him look really fat, to the sleeveless top.

981
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 3: You want to see him in a speeder.

982
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 2: I want to see him looking like with a lean silhouette.

983
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: But that's the they've never gone out of the creation

984
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: of the rivalry between Raja and Drapae Nike, where they

985
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: gave polo shirts and like, yeah, pastel colors to Raja

986
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: and like neon colors and sleeveless to Rougher to underline

987
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: the warrior against the gentleman effect, and then they forgot that.

988
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 4: Roger changed to Uniclo.

989
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that was my Okay, I got it.

990
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 3: My worst outfit for sure of the whole year was

991
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 3: Roger's Uniclo outfit at the USI brutal.

992
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 4: What was that again?

993
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 3: He looked like walking Pooh.

994
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 4: The brown one.

995
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 3: Hey, I have an It was like horrible, No, that

996
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 3: was that was yours is brown? You look like ups

997
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 3: he looked it was like green pooh.

998
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.

999
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 3: It's well, it depends on what you ate the night before.

1000
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 3: But yes, okay, so that was my least favorite.

1001
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 2: Okay, good, good entry despite one.

1002
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 4: Oh boy.

1003
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 2: Okay, should we get to questions? Yes?

1004
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, shall we?

1005
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I'll start with one for Andrea. Mike

1006
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 2: Taylor writes. I know Andrea Pekovich is a voracious reader.

1007
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 2: Has she read Duck's Newberry Port?

1008
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 3: And what you think of it?

1009
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: I don't know what that book is. Don't tell us

1010
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: what you're reading anyway, because I'm.

1011
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 4: I'm reading Paul Auster's New York trilogy right now.

1012
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 3: Wow.

1013
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 4: And I've been on a quest I texted to you.

1014
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: Yes, I've been on a quest to find the writers

1015
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 1: in New York and I haven't found one, and it

1016
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: makes me so angry.

1017
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 2: Put it out there. What has your plan been to

1018
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 2: find the writers?

1019
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: Just to keep your well, I've been just hanging out

1020
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: in bookstores and in Cobble Hill, where all the Jonathan's live.

1021
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 2: You haven't because if you had been in Cobble Hell,

1022
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 2: you would have seen at least one Jonathan.

1023
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 3: Well.

1024
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: I heard also that Paul Austers lives in Prospect Heights.

1025
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: So the last three days I've been hanging out there

1026
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: and I've seen you stand on the corner to hang

1027
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: out in cafes and drink a lot of green tea.

1028
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 4: I have a coffee in Shock and just sit around

1029
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 4: the writer.

1030
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 3: I will give anything for you to stand on a

1031
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 3: corner with a sign just with their names on it

1032
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 3: and so say I'm looking for please come over and

1033
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 3: talk to me. Yeah Jonathan, hashtag Jonathan, where are you?

1034
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 3: I hate it?

1035
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 2: The only thing I can suspect. I mean, I told

1036
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 2: you I saw it was Zadie Smith, my favorite New

1037
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 2: York and I haven't said I see her on occasion.

1038
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,919
Speaker 2: I've seen her a couple of times. Every time I'm like, Wow,

1039
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 2: that woman is beautiful. And then I'm like, she looks

1040
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: so great. Her skin looks amazing, She's luminous. I'm like, oh,

1041
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 2: it's Sadie Smith.

1042
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 4: No, of course not.

1043
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: She's so because what you put up a quest, she's

1044
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: on the quest.

1045
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 3: I can't speak to you, but I'm.

1046
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 2: Here for you. I love you, just like and like love. Actually,

1047
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 2: just hold up same. I'm reading everything I do, and

1048
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 2: I'll tell you it's the world is We're fucked great? Yeah, amazing.

1049
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: I'm reading about an alien invasion, so I'm kind of

1050
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 2: actually rooting for the aliens. I'm reading the three body problems.

1051
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 4: Go fifty one.

1052
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 3: Yes, that's going to be the field trip, thinking, I'm

1053
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 3: kind of hoping he'll be dead before all of that happens.

1054
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 4: You might, we're so selfish. What about the kids?

1055
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 3: Well that's the problem kids, haven't we just the kids

1056
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 3: are the problem? My kid I feel I truly seriously,

1057
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 3: when I'm in China, I feel sorry for our kids'

1058
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 3: kids because the pollution.

1059
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, in that country is so outrageous.

1060
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 4: It's gotten much better, It's gotten much.

1061
00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 3: I know, but that just proves it you how bad this.

1062
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got pneumonia when I lived in China my lung.

1063
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 2: Like everyone who lives there for a season gets along

1064
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 2: along ailment.

1065
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 4: It was crazy.

1066
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the doctors were like, oh, yeah, this

1067
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 2: is normal. Everyone gets this the first their first winter

1068
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 2: in Beijing. I was like, yeah, it was just like soot,

1069
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 2: it's gross.

1070
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I read I read about it. That's something

1071
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: when the weather grows cold, something happens to the pollution

1072
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: that it just sits Well, I don't know. I don't

1073
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: want to get into it because I didn't my scientific fact.

1074
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 3: Wt a train has came back. Both of them are

1075
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 3: sick because I think that's what however them.

1076
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, people get hazard paid for living there, okay,

1077
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 2: uh Ian Clark writes, and you.

1078
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 3: We love it.

1079
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 2: He lives actually in the fire area up and youth.

1080
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: Well you know, I hope you are Sicke and your

1081
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,479
Speaker 2: house and your home and your loved ones are okay,

1082
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 2: Ian Clark writes, and I'm going to address this to

1083
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 2: you today. Can men stop wearing baggy knee length shorts

1084
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 2: and model out TTU pots and the doll?

1085
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 4: Did he listen? Did you influence him? Did you pay

1086
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 4: him to save that?

1087
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: I swear to you know I didn't.

1088
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 3: He's just a big fan, and he's a big tennis fan,

1089
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 3: and he was a very big in fashion, so.

1090
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 4: He doesn't like the boxy. He likes you like I would.

1091
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: I mean, if I was a designer, I will totally

1092
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: bring back the borg John McEnroe.

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00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 2: Did I not just say that, even though I'm not

1094
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 2: the fashion correspond No, but.

1095
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: I thought you just want them a little. But I

1096
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: actually want this short because if we have.

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00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 2: Body all the time, why shouldn't like they're great? We

1098
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 2: should see Yeah, also I have to imagine that that

1099
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 2: comes backsh.

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00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 4: Objectify them all.

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00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 2: Okay, this is a fed Cup question from M K Bromley.

1102
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 2: How do players feel about removal of home away games

1103
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 2: for fed Cup and how will this affect growth of

1104
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 2: tennis in their countries. So this is this final match

1105
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 2: between Australia and last time we'll have a friend. The

1106
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,720
Speaker 2: change will now be a neutral territory.

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00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 3: Listen, it's going to be in Budapese, but I think

1108
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 3: it's also beautiful city. You will play home and away

1109
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 3: in the first tigh and then the finals will be

1110
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 3: in Budapest where when I've gone through a couple of

1111
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 3: different formats for fed Cup and she's old hashtag and

1112
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 3: the first couple of years that I played fed Cup

1113
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 3: was in Frankfurt and that was the last time Astralia

1114
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 3: was in the final actually nineteen ninety three, long time ago.

1115
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 3: But we did play the same format where we played

1116
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 3: it all in one week and it was great and

1117
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 3: you know, you still have that same pride and passion

1118
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 3: and for winning, but you lose that atmosphere of being

1119
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 3: home away. We actually played Germany and beat Germany in

1120
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 3: Germany there so we had that parochial crowd. But I

1121
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,919
Speaker 3: think that the IF is trying to tweak as best

1122
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 3: they can to try and help the players play. First

1123
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 3: of all, play more. As you know, Andrea has played

1124
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 3: millions of matches for Germany, so to try and you know,

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00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 3: get more players to play.

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00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 2: Meaning like some of the players don't sit up. I'll

1127
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: get you an example.

1128
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 3: Last year, Carolina Pushkova and Kivida didn't play the finals

1129
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 3: for the Czech Republic and they ended up winning, but

1130
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 3: still at home. They didn't play because they were injured.

1131
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 3: It's just too long serious. I mean, for ash you

1132
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 3: know who, as you said at the beginning, good for

1133
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 3: her to go and play, but it meant so much

1134
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 3: want it.

1135
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 4: The thing is, it's not a phrase.

1136
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: People say that, but I think to somebody who has

1137
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 1: played the whole season, and I finished my season in October,

1138
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: and I still think I could have used more, more,

1139
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: more of a break, a longer break to recover my body.

1140
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: I actually it's not a phrase for me, like good

1141
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: for her for playing. I actually mean that good not

1142
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: good for her, but respect and good for her that

1143
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: she goes out there and you know.

1144
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 2: The.

1145
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 3: Year probably not And that's that's the problem. For the

1146
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 3: Czech team, they've won it like eight times.

1147
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 2: So we're Australia, we haven't.

1148
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 3: Won it in forty five years. So for for Ash,

1149
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 3: this was like a glory moment for her to maybe

1150
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 3: bring that Cup to Australia where we have a huge

1151
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 3: amount of history with fed Cup and you know and

1152
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 3: Davis carp and our country is very we are very

1153
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 3: you know, we love our sports. So for Ash, you know,

1154
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 3: to bring that back. But next year and the year after,

1155
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 3: then year after, is she going to want to keep

1156
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 3: doing that? I would say probably not, Just like for

1157
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 3: Petra and for Carolina it became very, very difficult. So

1158
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 3: I think the way that the format is now, we've

1159
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 3: lost a little bit of that and that's sad. Having

1160
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 3: said that, the if also know this could be this

1161
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 3: very fluid situation and it could change in two years

1162
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 3: and we could go back to home and await ti

1163
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 3: is it just trying to find a fix for not

1164
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 3: having the players play so much, And so.

1165
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 2: The idea would be it is going to be in

1166
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: one neutral space. It's kind of like a World Cup.

1167
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 2: All the teams it's a playoff system, so everyone sort

1168
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 2: of would travel to a police much like all the.

1169
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 4: But that's really there really is a trend this year,

1170
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 4: isn't it.

1171
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: The ATP launching the ATP Cup, the Davis Cup, and

1172
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: the Man's changing their format the Red Flavor Cup. So

1173
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: it's been really a trend that tennis officials, I want

1174
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: to say, or people in tennis, the politicians of ours,

1175
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: are trying to bring more team sports into into the awareness,

1176
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: to spread tennis a little more into countries. And it

1177
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: always creates changing things, always creates problems on the other

1178
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: hand of the stick, I.

1179
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 3: Guess I was reading, we're close, problems we have way,

1180
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 3: it's great because as a tennis player and an individual,

1181
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 3: you love playing on teams. I loved playing team events,

1182
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 3: you love playing team events. It's like it's you don't

1183
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 3: get it very often. So to actually play on a

1184
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 3: team and a country is so awesome. The problem is

1185
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 3: there's like a thousand of them now because and so,

1186
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 3: and the problem is it's not tennis does not fall

1187
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 3: under one umbrella. Is the if there's the Grand Slams,

1188
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 3: there's ATP, there's a WTA, there's tournament owners, there's you know,

1189
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 3: Octagon and IMG and it's like everyone's got a finger

1190
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 3: in every single part, And the problem is they're all

1191
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 3: trying to I mean, I'm just gonna say it, they're

1192
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 3: all trying to fuck up over each other with who

1193
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 3: has the biggest team Cup event now. So it's like, guys,

1194
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 3: like seriously, Like, that's the biggest issue for me, is

1195
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 3: that we could do so much of a better job

1196
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 3: tennis of branching all of us together and making it

1197
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 3: bigger and making more money. But the problem is everyone's

1198
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 3: trying to cut a piece of the pie and it's diluting.

1199
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's diluting certain events, and really it's a bummer.

1200
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 2: Well, I think the events that have really taken a

1201
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 2: hit with the creation of all of these exhibition matches

1202
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 2: and obviously the rejiggering of Fed and Davis Cups, which

1203
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 2: means more to certain players than others, are like the

1204
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 2: day in and day out tournaments. You'll notice when everyone

1205
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 2: is advocating for more equal pay or higher pay or

1206
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 2: you know, all those p negotiations are about the Slams.

1207
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 2: They're not about like who's getting paid what in a

1208
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 2: mandatory right. And so to me, what I like very

1209
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 2: much about tennis is not necessarily the Slams. I like

1210
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 2: the tour of it. I like the fact that this

1211
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: group of players goes from one far flung beautiful band

1212
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 2: another merry women kind of yeah, and I think it's

1213
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 2: cool and obviously it's the best events in my mind

1214
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 2: are the ones that have both genders. I love the

1215
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 2: fact that there's a mixed event. I love the fact

1216
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 2: that a lot of these exos you do combine genders.

1217
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 2: In the next issue of Racket, which we're closing now,

1218
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 2: we have a story about the World Team Tennis creation,

1219
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 2: but specifically the creation of a team called the Soviets,

1220
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 2: and it happened during like the early eighties when like

1221
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 2: hostilities between Communist era, you know, the Soviet Union and

1222
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 2: the States were like at a high. Obviously that the

1223
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 2: backdrop of the boycott of the Moscow Olympics was sort

1224
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 2: of being talked about, but this was like a beautiful

1225
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 2: brief moment where everyone was kind of like, this could

1226
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 2: be cool, This was amazing, and it actually sort of

1227
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 2: thrived before it ended up dying a terrible death. So

1228
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 2: this is the first time that like that part of it.

1229
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 2: I mean, the World Team Tennis is still around kind of,

1230
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 2: but you know, this sport has been grappling with this

1231
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 2: for a long time, and for me it's like there's

1232
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 2: two very simple solutions, one of which is joined the tours.

1233
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 2: Then you have, essentially you have a collective bargaining power.

1234
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 2: And then you can say, well, both the tours and

1235
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 2: all the women women. The men don't want the women,

1236
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:58,240
Speaker 2: well most.

1237
00:53:58,160 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 3: Mostly, I mean mostly, yeah.

1238
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: Amount of times I have heard well, why do women

1239
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: earn the same? Well they should do, men not playing

1240
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: best of five the women. I would give every money

1241
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: that I've ever earned in tennis back if we would

1242
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: get the equal pay in the tours and get slightly

1243
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 1: less in the Grand Slams, because nobody understands.

1244
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 4: We don't have equal pay.

1245
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,479
Speaker 1: Women earn much less, I want to say, third less,

1246
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: maybe half less than men do. The only thing what

1247
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: we have is equal price money in four of the

1248
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: biggest tournaments, and then we have to listen, but the

1249
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: men play best of five. And I agree, I would

1250
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: gladly give away that right to have equal price mine

1251
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: at the Grand Slams if I could have equal price

1252
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: money at all the other tournaments, because we as women

1253
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 1: would earn much more on a constant basis, and it

1254
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: would be a whole different story. But like this, nobody

1255
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: ever really agrees, nobody ever gets on our side because

1256
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: we the men play best of five and we only play.

1257
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 2: Best of which is one of the many reasons I

1258
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 2: think getting rid of best of five would be totally

1259
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 2: shut everybody and then everyone's scoring. It's too long, it

1260
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 2: only benef fit certain players on it.

1261
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 3: But then there's the opposite conversations like, well, you know what,

1262
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 3: then women play best of Who wants that?

1263
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 2: No?

1264
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, like, you know women can play.

1265
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 4: Thing to do to tennis? Yeah, dumb.

1266
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 2: It's like, guess what.

1267
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 3: The women don't have the big serves, they don't have

1268
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 3: the power of the man. The men's matches can be quicker,

1269
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 3: It's like.

1270
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 2: Maybe, And also the speed of the surfaces has slowed down,

1271
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 2: so you get you can't have the best of five

1272
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 2: match that takes under two hours, whereas like on grass

1273
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 2: you actually could have.

1274
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 3: And Sneaki played three and a half hour women's final.

1275
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 3: Imagine the men's and men's was five cents.

1276
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but now think about think about the new generation

1277
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: who's grown up on YouTube videos that last two to

1278
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: three minutes. Yeah, I think they're gonna sit ye, And

1279
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: we have to think about the new generations. Everyone is

1280
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: dying and the sport's great because of climate kids, Caitlin,

1281
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: you know.

1282
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:56,760
Speaker 2: What, Everyone should live in a metropolis where public transit

1283
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 2: and resource intensive heating and cooling costs are amortized by huge,

1284
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 2: high density living. So that's my answer. The overpopulation problem

1285
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 2: is it's on Asia. Okay, that's true, and that's it

1286
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 2: for this episode of the Racket Magazine podcast. Thanks for listening.

1287
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 2: Our host is Renee Stubbs. Our co host and producer

1288
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 2: is me Caitlin Thompson. Music by internationally renowned DJ Stretch Armstrong.

1289
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 2: Thanks to Tim Or Jerry and then the team at ACAST.

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Speaker 2: Find us at racketmag dot com, slash podcast, and subscribe

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