Speaker 1: What's that?
Speaker 2: It's spooky joky.
Speaker 1: I'm really sure it's dead.
Speaker 2: It's coming this way. Wait a minute, I'm costed.
Speaker 1: I lost madays heave hey bow?
Speaker 2: What weird?
Speaker 1: Did you hear that? The theme song's different, the titles different.
Speaker 1: I have finally changed the name of this podcast, ever
Speaker 1: so slightly, to the name I go by now. When
Speaker 1: I started doing this podcast, I did drag twenty four
Speaker 1: to seven. Ros dress Wells was my drag name, and
Speaker 1: over the past few years, I've just really come into
Speaker 1: my own and I don't really do drag as much anymore,
Speaker 1: and so I think it's time to change the name
Speaker 1: to the name that more people know me as these days,
Speaker 1: which is Roz Hernandez. I do want you to know
Speaker 1: that if you still call me Ross dress vil As
Speaker 1: like that's it's It's okay, don't worry. It's just you know,
Speaker 1: at one point in my life, it was the only
Speaker 1: name I ever went by, and now I'm just all
Speaker 1: about getting more real and authentic, and it's it's more
Speaker 1: like a I mean, it's a fake name. It's a
Speaker 1: it's a nickname, I guess at this point, and I
Speaker 1: prefer to be called Ross Hernandez. But but it's fine.
Speaker 1: I mean, you've known me for these years as ross
Speaker 1: dress vil as. It's don't don't worry about it. It's
Speaker 1: not the same as if you were to dead name me,
Speaker 1: which you know, calling me by the name I was
Speaker 1: born with, which.
Speaker 2: I have.
Speaker 1: I have too many names, Okay, I got many names.
Speaker 1: We're consolidating the names. I can't deal with all the names,
Speaker 1: and so that's that. But I will say there's going
Speaker 1: to be some other changes going along with all this.
Speaker 1: I'm real excited about it, and I hope you will
Speaker 1: be too. Maybe you won't, I don't know. But you know,
Speaker 1: I've been doing this podcast for three and a half years,
Speaker 1: and I have talked about before that it is so
Speaker 1: hard to book a podcast period. But then when you
Speaker 1: add that people have to have amazing ghost stories or
Speaker 1: some kind of paranormal insight, that makes it so much harder.
Speaker 1: It is so hard, and somehow, I'm very proud of myself.
Speaker 1: I've been able to pull it off. But as the
Speaker 1: time goes on, it's just it's tough. So I'm going
Speaker 1: to be doing more episodes where people don't necessarily have
Speaker 1: ghost stories of their own, not at least, you know,
Speaker 1: these big show stopping stories. I'm gonna have on a
Speaker 1: lot more comedians and you know, just fun people. You know,
Speaker 1: I've just I've really, I've really painted myself in a corner.
Speaker 1: I've given you guys the goods, and I believe I'm
Speaker 1: going to continue to give you the goods. It's just
Speaker 1: going to be slightly different goods, all right. I think
Speaker 1: that the standard that I have set for the show
Speaker 1: is that I have on public figures, famous people with
Speaker 1: amazing good stories of their own, or have on paranormal
Speaker 1: professionals with all this great insight, or I have on
Speaker 1: listeners of the show with their family fantastic stories. And
Speaker 1: so I'm going to do my best to slightly change
Speaker 1: the expectations because it will make my life easier, and
Speaker 1: I think it will still be incredibly fun. Actually, I
Speaker 1: know it's really fun because I've recorded some of these
Speaker 1: types of episodes and I have been having a blast
Speaker 1: scream laughing with some of my friends. I do plan
Speaker 1: to have on paranormal professionals still, I do plan on
Speaker 1: having quote unquote traditional ghosted episodes, but I just am
Speaker 1: planning to have more people that are funny and don't
Speaker 1: have ghost stories. And when I say more, I mean,
Speaker 1: like I think most of the episodes. To be honest, hey,
Speaker 1: it's always going to be a goal to have on
Speaker 1: people with their own stories, and I'm always going to
Speaker 1: be on the lookout for those. But there's just going
Speaker 1: to be more episodes where we don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: we will stay on topic for the most part. We
Speaker 1: are going to be talking specifically paranormal and always EVPs,
Speaker 1: same podcast, same podcast. It's just I ask that you
Speaker 1: please have an open mind and an open heart, and
Speaker 1: you give it a chance and you are open to
Speaker 1: altering your expectations out of me. In some ways, it
Speaker 1: is kind of a new version of this podcast. It's
Speaker 1: a format that I'm just going to be doing more
Speaker 1: frequently from here on out. I think it's going to
Speaker 1: be less interviewe. I think the way it always was
Speaker 1: was so dependent on the guests and what the guests
Speaker 1: bring in, and I can't I can always count on
Speaker 1: people to bring in stuff for my show, So I
Speaker 1: will be preparing stuff more. It will be more homework
Speaker 1: for me, but that's fine. I love it. I'm learning
Speaker 1: about all kinds of stuff. It's really fun for me.
Speaker 1: But it will take away some of the booking and
Speaker 1: trying to get people with ghost stories. There are so
Speaker 1: many lovely paranormal interview talk show type shows, and I
Speaker 1: do love to interview people, but I feel that my
Speaker 1: calling to the world of the paranormal has always been
Speaker 1: to find the fun in it and to find the
Speaker 1: humor in it. This podcast has technically always been a
Speaker 1: comedy podcast, but I think it's you know, it contains multitudes.
Speaker 1: I think there's all kinds of things you can get
Speaker 1: from this podcast, but I really want to lean into
Speaker 1: the comedy of it. Plus I can have on repeat,
Speaker 1: guess you know, Like historically it's like, oh, I already
Speaker 1: heard that person's stories. I can't ever have them back on.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, I want to have some of
Speaker 1: these fan favorites back on and we'll we'll talk and
Speaker 1: laugh and discuss other paranormal stuff. So I have recorded
Speaker 1: a few already. I love it. I think it's so fun.
Speaker 1: I anticipate that there might be some of you that
Speaker 1: don't like it. I would thank you so much for
Speaker 1: not leaving a bad review. I thank you for tuning
Speaker 1: in every week. I think you will like it. It's just
Speaker 1: if you're looking for amazing ghost stories, you might not
Speaker 1: always find it. However, I do want to read more
Speaker 1: ghost stories from you, all the listeners, so, like I
Speaker 1: always do, you just email me at ghosted by Ras
Speaker 1: at gmail dot com or write it in a five
Speaker 1: star review. I would love to read stories on the podcast,
Speaker 1: and then that way we can still get to hear
Speaker 1: real first hand encounters in one way or another. But
Speaker 1: I also imagine I'm gonna be talking to comedians more.
Speaker 1: I can't always control what comes out of their mouths.
Speaker 1: Sometimes comedians tend to be cynical. Sometimes people tell me
Speaker 1: that they listen to this stuff with their kids. I
Speaker 1: don't know what they're gonna say. I don't know what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say when I'm around my funny friends, but
Speaker 1: just be warned. I think that some of the vibes
Speaker 1: will be slightly different from time to time, but there
Speaker 1: will be traditional ghosted episodes. In fact, I have one
Speaker 1: that's coming out soon with Adam Barry from Kindred Spirits.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I'm still gonna be talking to to
Speaker 1: people that know this stuff and have the stories. And
Speaker 1: I think today's episode is actually a great example of
Speaker 1: the vibe of the kinds of shows that will be
Speaker 1: coming out soon. I'm ghosted by Roz Hernandez. I got
Speaker 1: to talk to Patton Oswalt and his wife Meredith Salinger.
Speaker 1: They have a podcast called did You Get My Text?
Speaker 1: And they We had so much fun on Patreon. I'm
Speaker 1: still gonna do weekly episodes for the time being, so
Speaker 1: you can check those out. There's a link in the
Speaker 1: description of this episode. Okay, here we go. Here's my
Speaker 1: conversation with truly one of my favorite comedians of all time,
Speaker 1: Patton Oswalt and Meredith Salinger on with the show. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, Paton and Meredith, Hello, how are you?
Speaker 3: Hello?
Speaker 2: Good? Thanks for having us on the sh show.
Speaker 1: I'm so honored. Thank you guys for doing this. I'm
Speaker 1: a fan of both of you, and I am so
Speaker 1: curious to hear about your paranormal relationship.
Speaker 3: Our relationship is so it's more not normal than paranormal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, it's so normal. It's freaky. That's how normal
Speaker 2: our relations I can't even talk it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I've heard. I've listened to your podcast
Speaker 1: and I remember hearing an episode where you guys were
Speaker 1: talking about like you you haven't really had much going
Speaker 1: on in that world, but you want to I am.
Speaker 2: Here's what I am. As far as the paranormal is concerned.
Speaker 2: I am like an Amish youth who's obsessed with sex
Speaker 2: and video games. I can't because I've never encountered it.
Speaker 2: And even though I want to encounter it, I have
Speaker 2: never had a paranormal experience and I could not be
Speaker 2: more open to it. And everyone around me has had them,
Speaker 2: everyone around me continues to have them, and I feel
Speaker 2: like either the ghosts are of are ghosting me, or
Speaker 2: I do again. I don't know what the actual theory is,
Speaker 2: but everyone exists at different vibrational frequencies, and I think
Speaker 2: some people vibrate at a frequency in which they are
Speaker 2: open to the spirit world or other dimensions, and some
Speaker 2: people aren't. And I think I'm vibrating. I'm like that
Speaker 2: whale in that one whale whose song is so low
Speaker 2: no other whales can hear it, and and he can't,
Speaker 2: so he just feels like he's alone. It's really sad.
Speaker 2: Number fifty is called number fifty two, and it's a
Speaker 2: real whale and the other whales can't hear her because
Speaker 2: the vocal cords are at a frequency word, so no
Speaker 2: one responds.
Speaker 1: To thinking, Okay, she needs to watch some RuPaul's whale
Speaker 1: race and she needs to learn how to wear some lip,
Speaker 1: thinking whale race. We can fix this for her.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but it's this lonely whale, and I am
Speaker 2: the lonely whale of the ghost world.
Speaker 1: Okay. I think it's very similar to dating. It's you
Speaker 1: can't be too thirsty for it. You have to play
Speaker 1: hard to get because, let me tell you something, before
Speaker 1: I started doing this podcast, ghosts can get enough of me. Okay,
Speaker 1: spooks left and right everywhere I went, ghosts wanted some
Speaker 1: of this. Then I got a podcast where I start
Speaker 1: talking about them, they disappeared. It's like that thing with
Speaker 1: like comedians, where it's like, oh, I don't want to
Speaker 1: date a comedian because I'm gonna I'm gona end up
Speaker 1: in their act. Like I feel like that's what it is.
Speaker 1: That's because these ghosts don't. They don't visit me.
Speaker 2: Now that I have a podcast, I literally picture a
Speaker 2: ghost going towards you, like rattling chains, and another one
Speaker 2: grabs short, like, dude, she has.
Speaker 3: A boy, you don't want to just I also think
Speaker 3: that perhaps it's how you perceive the world and what
Speaker 3: meaning you put onto things. So, for example, my grandpa
Speaker 3: passed away and he had a tattoo of a butterfly
Speaker 3: on him, and when he passed away, this one butterfly
Speaker 3: just kept coming around, and I was just like Grandpa,
Speaker 3: Like every time it felt like this, and anytime I'm
Speaker 3: with my mom in her backyard and like a butterfly
Speaker 3: comes by, were like Grandpa. And so it's sort of
Speaker 3: like the meaning that you put on life, like that's
Speaker 3: not a ghost, but it feels like a sign of
Speaker 3: some kind. And then I'll just tell you my others
Speaker 3: real quick, just since you asked. But I grew up
Speaker 3: in Malibu and I lived on Point Doom and so
Speaker 3: it sort of like juts out into the ocean kind.
Speaker 1: Of, and so it's called Point Doom.
Speaker 3: Yeah d u m me, not.
Speaker 1: Exactly nook sounding.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not d o o m d um me. And
Speaker 3: I remember being alone and I saw what looked like
Speaker 3: flying saucer spaceship or UFO whatever it was, and I
Speaker 3: was it really really really super did and I called
Speaker 3: nobody else. I think I was nine, and I called
Speaker 3: my grandma because I wasn't nobody was home, and I
Speaker 3: was like, Grandma, if I saw a spaceship, I'm telling
Speaker 3: you right now, one hundred percent. And she's like, well,
Speaker 3: maybe they're doing flying exercises off of the coast of
Speaker 3: Da Da Da. Maybe it's a different kind of thing.
Speaker 3: Maybe the light hit it funny, But Grandma, I'm telling you,
Speaker 3: it's a spaceship. And I for real, one hundred percent
Speaker 3: believed I saw a UFO, Like, for real, look like
Speaker 3: one of those UFO kind of things.
Speaker 1: You are far from the only person that has reported
Speaker 1: that in Malibu. Yeah, they love Malibu out there.
Speaker 3: Yes, I for real believe that I saw UFO. And
Speaker 3: when it went by very quickly and it was very
Speaker 3: fast and fleeting, and I was like, did I just
Speaker 3: see a UFO? Like you question yourself. And then the
Speaker 3: only other paranormal experience that I feel like I've experienced
Speaker 3: is I had these little, tiny earrings and they were
Speaker 3: given to me by my grandm my mom, who got
Speaker 3: them from her dad, my grandpa again, the butterfly Grandpa.
Speaker 3: And in the morning I got up in the morning,
Speaker 3: I wear my earrings like I sleep in them. I
Speaker 3: don't take them out. And I got up in the
Speaker 3: morning and I had my earrings in and I went
Speaker 3: shopping with a friend and we went to the mall
Speaker 3: and I tried on a million different things and I
Speaker 3: bought some blouses. And I got back home and I
Speaker 3: looked in the mirror and my ear ring was gone.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, damn, I must have lost it shopping,
Speaker 3: Like when I was pulling shirts on and off, it
Speaker 3: probably came off. And then that night I went to
Speaker 3: bed and I laid down and in the middle of
Speaker 3: the night, I woke up and I was my cheek
Speaker 3: had a poke, was poking my cheek, And I got up.
Speaker 3: I turned on the light and in the middle of
Speaker 3: my pillow was the ear ring. And I'm telling you
Speaker 3: that I had those earrings on when I went that day,
Speaker 3: and they were gone when I came home, and then
Speaker 3: it just appeared.
Speaker 1: How old were you when this happened.
Speaker 3: I'm like twenty five.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, So what if the tooth fairy got mistaken? Right?
Speaker 1: I thought it was a tooth. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3: I replaced it with.
Speaker 2: The diamond here could have been anyway.
Speaker 3: That's that. That's that, that's all. And I was like, Grandpa,
Speaker 3: Grandpa did it? So, I mean, who knows maybe everybody's like,
Speaker 3: maybe you didn't go, Maybe you thought you had your
Speaker 3: earring on in the morning, maybe was on the pillow already.
Speaker 3: I'm like, eh, but I would have seen it in
Speaker 3: the middle of my pillow.
Speaker 2: Right before you went to sleep.
Speaker 3: Went to sleep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, Anyway, a lot of people, a lot of
Speaker 1: people will say that there's I mean, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of words that you could use, spirits goes, But it
Speaker 1: seems like I always conclude that ghosts are like a
Speaker 1: sad thing. It's like someone dies and they're like trapped
Speaker 1: in a place and they kind of hang out there forever.
Speaker 1: But then there's like loved ones that pass that seemed
Speaker 1: to be able to have the freedom to come and
Speaker 1: go and give you signs when they need to. And
Speaker 1: that's sort of a thing which I believe in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so if you believe in that, like the butterfly thing,
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe Paton uh doesn't believe in that. Maybe
Speaker 3: someone died in his life and you know, signs come
Speaker 3: left and right and he doesn't see it because he's
Speaker 3: not he doesn't feel it a spiritual level the other
Speaker 3: people do.
Speaker 2: But what you're saying is I am too thirsty for it.
Speaker 2: I'm very open to and when I say no paranormal encounters,
Speaker 2: I've never seen a cryptid, never had a time slip,
Speaker 2: never experienced an UPA, a ghost, anything like that.
Speaker 3: But you know the names of all these random things
Speaker 3: that I've never had.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what.
Speaker 2: You know I've seen, opus you are. An UPA is
Speaker 2: an out of place artifact where, for instance, they're they're
Speaker 2: due if someone's doing like a an archaeological dig and
Speaker 2: there at a level where it's like seven thousand years BC.
Speaker 2: But then they will find something that looks like a
Speaker 2: modern battery or like a piece of technology that shouldn't
Speaker 2: be existing during that time, like maybe there was time
Speaker 2: travel or some kind of slip where items have moved
Speaker 2: through time.
Speaker 3: And that I don't YEH does know about that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm I'm starting to get more
Speaker 1: into the weird shit like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm mainly like a ghost person a little bit
Speaker 1: of big, little bit of UFO. I don't know that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, upah's oopa out of place artifact, something that something
Speaker 2: that shouldn't exist when it in an area that it
Speaker 2: is found.
Speaker 1: See stuff like that that often makes me feel like
Speaker 1: someone got busted, like someone wasn't supposed to be there,
Speaker 1: they left their bounding, and they're like it must have
Speaker 1: been time travel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'm talking about like they find an object
Speaker 2: that was clearly made during that time, but exhibits technology
Speaker 2: or machine tooling that couldn't have existed at that time. Like,
Speaker 2: how was this made based on the tools that like
Speaker 2: these are? This is an iron Age artifact made during
Speaker 2: a Stone age time? So where did they get these tools?
Speaker 2: Was it left by someone else? Was it? You know?
Speaker 3: I want to know what ghost type experiences you Yeah, because.
Speaker 2: And you say they've all gone away because of your podcast.
Speaker 1: Well they have. I recently had one that that it's
Speaker 1: it's come back around because I've been looking for it.
Speaker 3: What what what would you call a ghost experience?
Speaker 1: I've had a lot. I've stayed and haunted Arabynbes and
Speaker 1: had the covers pulled down. Yeah, I had. I bought
Speaker 1: a Wija board from a I did.
Speaker 2: That goodwill a Oiji board in our house. No, you
Speaker 2: don't allow that's how you invite demons in. Nope.
Speaker 3: I did buy a Ouiji board for Alice and her
Speaker 3: sleepover friends.
Speaker 2: And but that was another party and Why do.
Speaker 1: You think that that brings in demons?
Speaker 2: You know what again, this is just my silly superstition.
Speaker 2: It's in the movie The exorcistter playing with the Ouiji board,
Speaker 2: and it's strongly suggested Captain Hawdi, Captain Hawdy, that's how
Speaker 2: Pezuzu gets in. So I'm just like, it's a weird
Speaker 2: it's a dimension to an I don't know. It just
Speaker 2: feels very uncontrolled.
Speaker 3: Well for someone who's looking for something to happen, and
Speaker 3: that's a portal. But I don't want you should let
Speaker 3: the portal open.
Speaker 2: I don't want to. I don't want malign influences. I
Speaker 2: want But.
Speaker 1: Why see you only think that because it's in a movie.
Speaker 1: We talk about this all the time, that that movie
Speaker 1: messed up so much many people. But it's I actually
Speaker 1: had a wei geologist on this show. What Yes. She
Speaker 1: she operates the Ouija board museum and knows everything about it.
Speaker 1: I've had so many people that work in the field
Speaker 1: and they're all like, it's not It's just like another
Speaker 1: way to communicate. If you believe that.
Speaker 3: It's like tarot cards and itching.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very Christian. Uh, you know, years and years
Speaker 1: of being like that kind of stuff is evil, you know,
Speaker 1: but it's like it's really not. I don't think.
Speaker 2: So you've messed around with the Ouiji board like in
Speaker 2: your house or with other people.
Speaker 1: No, I won't do that. I don't believe my house
Speaker 1: this demons?
Speaker 2: Thank you? What?
Speaker 1: But people say it's not Now, I have no problem
Speaker 1: telling people to do it, so they can come out
Speaker 1: my podcast and report back to me. I'm not doing it.
Speaker 2: Thank you. You are.
Speaker 3: So you're like a drug dealer who doesn't do their drugs, who.
Speaker 2: Just gives other people you don't get high in your supply.
Speaker 1: Now I'm smart, Like, what am I going to do?
Speaker 1: There's no show if I'm possessed?
Speaker 2: Thank you?
Speaker 3: Can what? Wait a second? Yeah, okay, possessed? Now, first
Speaker 3: of all, you have had ghost experience, the sheets got
Speaker 3: pulled down? What else? And why would you think you'd
Speaker 3: be possessed? And have you ever met anyone who's been possessed?
Speaker 1: See that's a really tough one because it's like it's
Speaker 1: such a fine line with mental illness and I feel
Speaker 1: like so many years of people being like that person's possessed.
Speaker 1: So who really knows? I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: Ye, like those Christian people who are like the devil?
Speaker 3: Are you? Let me let me banish that devil. Come on,
Speaker 3: let me hit you in the head and banish the devil.
Speaker 3: It's just somebody having like an issue.
Speaker 2: Well that's why, like Jesus is constantly banishing devils from
Speaker 2: people in the Bible. Oh yeah, he is, we are
Speaker 2: he remember hem. He sends all those demons out of
Speaker 2: that guy and puts him in the pigs, and then
Speaker 2: the pigs run off the cliff and die.
Speaker 1: I don't know that one.
Speaker 2: We are Legion for we are I am Legion for
Speaker 2: we are Many? No, it's not. But what I'm yeah,
Speaker 2: what is your name? I am Legion for we are Many?
Speaker 3: Isn't that a TV show? I am Legion?
Speaker 1: Well they use it out of him legends.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I am legend. But there's also a
Speaker 2: show called Legion. Okay, but that comes from the Bible.
Speaker 2: What is your name Legion for we are Many?
Speaker 3: Who?
Speaker 2: But anyway, what I'm saying is I think that, like
Speaker 2: you said, it was somebody who was crazy or depressed.
Speaker 2: And back then, if you were crazy and depressed, they
Speaker 2: chased you off a cliff and threw rocks at you.
Speaker 2: And Jesus was the first guy to come along and go, hey,
Speaker 2: i'll talk to you, I'll listen to you, and it
Speaker 2: and it made the person feel better. But because people
Speaker 2: were so primitive, they're like he chased demons out of them. No,
Speaker 2: he was just nice to them. You're just talk to
Speaker 2: them and listen to them. That's that Back then, that
Speaker 2: was a superpower. Not being an asshole was a superpower
Speaker 2: in biblical times.
Speaker 3: I need to hear more ghosts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how young were you when you first started butting
Speaker 2: up against the spirit world. I feel like you.
Speaker 1: Guys have me on your podcast and I'll tell you
Speaker 1: all about I want to hear about.
Speaker 3: Well we don't have stuff.
Speaker 2: That's well, well, let me but I want to give
Speaker 2: you example how I don't have stuff. Okay, So I
Speaker 2: last year I shot a movie that that shot.
Speaker 3: Oh, this is such a good story. I love this story.
Speaker 2: This is a frustrating story. But yes, it's good. But
Speaker 2: it also drives me crazy. It's so good shooting a
Speaker 2: movie on the Queen Mary which is supposed.
Speaker 1: To be yes, which I loved.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: This is a great cameo from speaking of RuPaul. That's
Speaker 1: so funny. Yes, you're hilarious. Wendy is a friend of
Speaker 1: the show. She's been on here.
Speaker 2: Tony rules love her, absolutely rules. The only reason she
Speaker 2: doesn't have an Emmy is because she's like, when I'm
Speaker 2: done working, I'll go home and watch TV with my husband.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to do an Emmy campaign like she does.
Speaker 2: The most normal, the most normal talented human being everything. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's ridiculous. So we're on the Queen Mary. We're all
Speaker 2: sitting up. Queen Mary is supposed to be crazy haunted.
Speaker 1: It's always on those lists. Yeah, most which I'm always like,
Speaker 1: who decides that first of thank you? Yeah, I want
Speaker 1: to see every year it's like that was the number one.
Speaker 1: Now we're moving at this year is gonna be number three?
Speaker 1: But it's always the most haunted place in California.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, it was. It's either that the Winchester House
Speaker 2: or the Coronado Hotel, and.
Speaker 1: There's three that are the Waley House and yes.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we're on the we're on the boat. We're
Speaker 2: setting up a shot. I'm over at video village. I'm
Speaker 2: looking at the monitors. I'm kind of trying to shadow
Speaker 2: the director. And then they said patten and we're just
Speaker 2: looking at the monitors because the cameras are pointed where
Speaker 2: they're pointed, and they're framing a shot. The shot is
Speaker 2: looking up the grand staircase. So then they go, patent,
Speaker 2: go over, you're about about to film your scene. So
Speaker 2: I walk away from Video Village, get in my spot,
Speaker 2: and then over at Video Village, someone said, whoever is
Speaker 2: is there a PA upstairs? There's a shadow. Someone go
Speaker 2: up there and tell him to move because you see
Speaker 2: your shadow. So another PA goes to the top of
Speaker 2: the stairs and then comes back down and looked a
Speaker 2: little weird, like there's no one up there? What did
Speaker 2: you see? The monitor like, I saw someone moving around,
Speaker 2: and they went, well, there's it's a closed off hall.
Speaker 2: There's no one up there. There's no one up there.
Speaker 2: And so but it felt like the minute I walked
Speaker 2: away from the monitors and I couldn't see anything, that's
Speaker 2: when the ghosts started moving around. So I'm always adjacent
Speaker 2: to this shit, but I never experienced it directly, and
Speaker 2: it drives me crazy. And that's just it feels like
Speaker 2: all the spirits on the Queen Mary were like, hey,
Speaker 2: when this guy comes in, just make sure it's like
Speaker 2: when he's not looking we'll do something so that the
Speaker 2: crew can see don't make make sure he doesn't get
Speaker 2: to see anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been on the Queen Mary. I kind of
Speaker 1: stayed there one time. I left him the mid of
Speaker 1: the night because for.
Speaker 2: The purpose of a ghost tour or just to go
Speaker 2: there to sleep.
Speaker 1: I had some friends that that got a room and
Speaker 1: like these the spookyst room there, which is like it
Speaker 1: comes with a weige board and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: They give you tarot cards or whatever it's all about.
Speaker 1: This is the most haunted room.
Speaker 2: Yeah. At one point I had to go they have anything.
Speaker 3: Happened to them?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: They slept like little babies. I left because I was
Speaker 1: just like, no, I don't want to Did you.
Speaker 2: Get to it into your own head or did you
Speaker 2: feel something?
Speaker 1: No, nothing happened. A lot of people say that ghosts
Speaker 1: can just look like us. So Patten, maybe you've seen
Speaker 1: many ghosts, you just don't know that.
Speaker 2: I've heard that thing where ghosts don't actually look whispy.
Speaker 2: They can actually be there, but you wouldn't know that
Speaker 2: you're looking at a at a ghost, which that to
Speaker 2: me is uh, Yeah, there's there's a there's a Spanish
Speaker 2: film called Terrified that came out last year that really
Speaker 2: deals with that idea of there's nothing special about what
Speaker 2: a ghost looks like. You have to know where to look.
Speaker 2: And there's the final scene of that movie is genuinely terrifying,
Speaker 2: and there doesn't really involve in the specially. It just
Speaker 2: involves a guy that has encountered all these things, and
Speaker 2: there's these two investigators are talking to him in like
Speaker 2: a room like this, and then they're like and then
Speaker 2: their trim the experience and they're like okay, and then
Speaker 2: he's like, now that third guy did he come with you?
Speaker 2: Is he with you? Like he's pointing like against the
Speaker 2: wall and there's nothing there and they kind of look over,
Speaker 2: and then the like then the chair just lifts up
Speaker 2: and throws it hit and then because he knows how
Speaker 2: to spot someone who actually is a god, and it's
Speaker 2: but the whole scene nothing happens until the chair moves
Speaker 2: until then they're but the scene the moment where he goes,
Speaker 2: now that guy there, is he with you? And then
Speaker 2: they both it's so creepy.
Speaker 1: Oh that's creepy. Can I tell you guys about a
Speaker 1: famous story?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, we're gonna go into his Are you
Speaker 1: cool with getting weird? Because it's a weird.
Speaker 2: One weird way weird. Go ahead.
Speaker 1: This one takes place on the Isle of man Nice
Speaker 1: in nineteen thirty one. Uh this is, you know, between
Speaker 1: England and Ireland, a village called Delby, and we're at
Speaker 1: the farmhouse of the Irving family. We're talking about James,
Speaker 1: Margaret and their thirteen year old daughter Vory.
Speaker 2: Oh Forory, I God, I can't stand her. Go ahead yet,
Speaker 2: all right, do you know what do you know? We
Speaker 2: were Facebook friends around that. She blocked, He's an idiot.
Speaker 2: Keep going ahead.
Speaker 1: Sorry, okay, too much farm bell. She's from the farm.
Speaker 1: She grew up on a farm. Okay, so business as usual.
Speaker 1: They're just living their life and they start hearing on
Speaker 1: the walls of their farmhouse scratching, hissing, growls, barking. Now
Speaker 1: this is what it gets real creepy. They started to
Speaker 1: hear what sounded like a baby trying to speak.
Speaker 3: Just okay, okay, keep going.
Speaker 1: So they think, you know, naturally it's a wild animal
Speaker 1: or I don't know, some a baby trying to burgle
Speaker 1: them or something, you know how that happens. And so
Speaker 1: they set up a trap that didn't catch a baby.
Speaker 1: They didn't catch any kind of animal. And one time
Speaker 1: the dad actually growled at this sound and it growled back.
Speaker 1: So then this creature that they can't see yet starts
Speaker 1: speaking English. The daughter is saying nursery rhymes. It's saying
Speaker 1: it back. It gets to the point where it can sing,
Speaker 1: It starts singing. It says online body renditions of home
Speaker 1: on the range scary.
Speaker 2: Is it still a little kid voice? Or is this
Speaker 2: thing getting older as it's learning?
Speaker 1: Well, it has a high pitched voice, and it introduces
Speaker 1: itself once it starts to learn how to talk better.
Speaker 1: And it says that its name is Jeff spelled with
Speaker 1: a G gef Jeff, a talking mongoose that was born
Speaker 1: in India in eighteen fifty two. And Jeff is back.
Speaker 2: Jeff's back, yes. So.
Speaker 1: In a real interview in nineteen thirty two with the
Speaker 1: Manchester Daily Dispatch, the dad James described the creature as
Speaker 1: quote a little animal resembling a stout ferret or a weasel,
Speaker 1: yellow in color, with a body about nine inches long
Speaker 1: at a long bushy tail speckled with black. So all
Speaker 1: the members of the family could see him but like
Speaker 1: sometimes they couldn't like he sometimes appeared, but seems like
Speaker 1: he was always around. They would feed him sausages and bacon.
Speaker 1: He would sleep in the daughter's room. But it sounds
Speaker 1: like he was like a little sassy because some real quotes.
Speaker 1: This is what allegedly Jeff the Talking Mongoose.
Speaker 3: Can everybody hear this guy or just the girl?
Speaker 1: They can, Yeah, the whole the whole family can, but
Speaker 1: the plot will thicken. It's like, okay, So these are
Speaker 1: some real quotes from Jeff the Mongoose. I've been to
Speaker 1: nicer homes than this. Carpet piano, satin covers on polished tables.
Speaker 1: I'm going back there. Ha ha, here's a name. I could
Speaker 1: kill you, but I won't you. And then another one.
Speaker 1: One time the dad was reading a newspaper and he
Speaker 1: heard the voice say, read it out loud, you fat
Speaker 1: headed gnome.
Speaker 2: Being haunted by Luella Parsons. Like what who is did?
Speaker 2: Did Truman Capote like travel back in time as a
Speaker 2: ghost mongoose?
Speaker 1: Yes? So apparently during the daytime, Jeff the Talking Mangos
Speaker 1: would travel around town and gather the town gossip and
Speaker 1: come back and report to the family. Like, girl, did
Speaker 1: you hear it? Yeah, he would have all the tea,
Speaker 1: so he wasn't all bad. He would apparently if they
Speaker 1: left a fire in the fireplace, he would turn it out.
Speaker 1: If they overslapped, he would wake them up. I'm just
Speaker 1: picturing him like, hey, you fat bitch, wake up, Wake up,
Speaker 1: your stupid asshole.
Speaker 2: Is going to be late, you pilish exactly.
Speaker 1: So now the daughter would walk around the neighborhood, she
Speaker 1: walked to school, and people would see her talking to herself,
Speaker 1: but they would hear the voice.
Speaker 3: Eh. They couldn't see the mongos, but they could hear
Speaker 3: the mongos talking. And she wasn't a little ventriloquist psycho girl.
Speaker 1: Funny you say that, because that's what even then and
Speaker 1: now people think they think that the girl was being
Speaker 1: a ventriloquist the whole time, which I say, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Jeff the talking mongoose Jeff Dunham coincidence, Oh look, I
Speaker 1: think not right.
Speaker 3: But the family had to hear the little mongoose dude talking.
Speaker 3: What did they hear it when the little girl wasn't
Speaker 3: in the room.
Speaker 1: Oh see, that's the thing. From what I read online,
Speaker 1: the girl is kind of always around, but so things
Speaker 1: started to get ugly. They moved the daughter's room bat
Speaker 1: into the parents' room and they could hear him banging
Speaker 1: on the walls freaking out. He's like, I'm gonna follow
Speaker 1: her wherever she is, so she would have to be
Speaker 1: a real good ventriloquist, which some of them can. I know.
Speaker 1: This sounds like a skill, which is funny because she
Speaker 1: didn't end up pursuing ventriloquism. It sounded like she had
Speaker 1: a gift, but she didn't. She didn't apparently. So it
Speaker 1: was suspected that it was a poltergeist because those are
Speaker 1: usually centered around an adolescent girl and it's a lot
Speaker 1: of banging, and it can be a lot of different
Speaker 1: things that are going on. So they the tabloids went
Speaker 1: crazy for it. There was this is a real headline
Speaker 1: from the Daily Dispatch. Man Weasel, mystery grips Island.
Speaker 2: Man weasel, queerest.
Speaker 1: Beast would you call me? Talks to Daily Dispatch reporter.
Speaker 1: So they had some world renowned paranormal investigators come in,
Speaker 1: Harry Price and Harold Dennis, the Hary's. They came in,
Speaker 1: they took a hair sample and they took it to
Speaker 1: the Zoological Society of London. It came back as a
Speaker 1: dog hare. Now these people they had a sheep dog,
Speaker 1: so they also.
Speaker 2: Did the dog sense this thing. Did the dog ever
Speaker 2: react to I don't know about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't fund it, but they took casts of
Speaker 1: the teeth and the claws that were allegedly Jeff the
Speaker 1: mongoose is They came back as definitely not a mongoose,
Speaker 1: so we don't know what it was. There was When
Speaker 1: the paranormal investigators were there, they did encounter this voice
Speaker 1: saying who are those people? And they heard things being
Speaker 1: thrown around, so I don't know. Eventually things slowed down.
Speaker 1: The dad died and the mother and daughter moved out.
Speaker 1: In nineteen forty five and an actor named Leslie Graham
Speaker 1: moved in. He says that he shot and killed it,
Speaker 1: and he took pictures of.
Speaker 2: It, and are there pictures online?
Speaker 1: There must be because he says that he took a
Speaker 1: picture and but Vori saw it and she said, no, ma'am,
Speaker 1: Leslie Graham, that is not that is not Jeff.
Speaker 3: So you killed some you killed Jeff's brother, You.
Speaker 2: Killed it could be angoose, Yes, it wasn't the ghost.
Speaker 1: So they asked him if he was a polter guys
Speaker 1: and he said he's more like a familiar or something
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 3: Jif, hey, Jeff, what are you, they would have full
Speaker 3: conversations with them.
Speaker 2: I think I'm like a poltry. Excuse me, I'm a
Speaker 2: familiar familiar. I can't believe you just dropped them. Did
Speaker 2: you just drop the P word? That is so offensive?
Speaker 2: I'm a familiar exactly. Oh my, you just dropped the
Speaker 2: PA bomb. I cannot believe this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, go to the like Carol Anne.
Speaker 2: Exactly if if if he claims he's a familiar, then
Speaker 2: isn't he implying that the daughter is a witch? Because
Speaker 2: don't only witches.
Speaker 3: Have familiar What the hell is a familiar?
Speaker 2: A familiar is a do you want me to say?
Speaker 1: You know which?
Speaker 2: Which? Or warlock can summon. A familiar can appear as
Speaker 2: a that. That's why witches often have cats, that it
Speaker 2: holds some of their power, and also they can share
Speaker 2: some of the animal's senses. So if you have a
Speaker 2: cat is familiar, you have improved hearing, an eyesight. If
Speaker 2: you have an owl or a bat or whatever that
Speaker 2: you you It's like a weird symbiotic magic relationship with
Speaker 2: this creature.
Speaker 3: Dude, you know a lot about this, You really don't you.
Speaker 2: I'm fascinated with it too, because it's it clearly is
Speaker 2: not fascinated with me.
Speaker 1: Mmmm. That is what I'm saying that that's the thing
Speaker 1: when you have a hoax, I feel like most of
Speaker 1: the time you got to commit to it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: She even to what She died not that long ago apparently,
Speaker 1: and she always said, I didn't do it. It wasn't me,
Speaker 1: It wasn't me.
Speaker 3: So she was like, it really had this really was
Speaker 3: a thing, and this really.
Speaker 1: Happened apparently, but it was like all over the press.
Speaker 1: Tons of people witnessed it. Locals. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, I mean, you know how parents can talk. Maybe
Speaker 3: they taught a little mongoose how to talk. Could be.
Speaker 2: Medical.
Speaker 1: You have famously played a lot of talking animals.
Speaker 2: I have played a lot of talking animals.
Speaker 1: Is this Does this seem legit from your experience?
Speaker 2: From my experience? No, I mean the kind of talking
Speaker 2: animals that you see in movies are animals that conveniently
Speaker 2: have the voice of forty year old comedy writers. You
Speaker 2: know that this sounds like it had the It feels
Speaker 2: like this is a board farm girl who dreamed of
Speaker 2: this higher life, the idea of going around town and
Speaker 2: listening to gossip. And I think she brought that world
Speaker 2: back and personified it. Is in another word, not I
Speaker 2: don't want to psychoanalyze her, but she feels like I'm
Speaker 2: this mongoose trapped in the walls, this boring ass barn
Speaker 2: and I hate living out her one cooler life and
Speaker 2: that's what she That's how she was personifying it.
Speaker 1: I got it.
Speaker 2: It feels like it.
Speaker 1: I want to see paton Oswald is Jeff's talking Well.
Speaker 2: I've been a talking rat, an imaginary donkey, and a dog,
Speaker 2: and in a couple months on Netflix, I will be
Speaker 2: the voice of Matthew the raven in the Sandman. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've read the Salmon comic books.
Speaker 2: They write up there out game and really they are
Speaker 2: right up your alley and as far as your interests. Uh.
Speaker 2: Salman is the master of dreams. It's where we all
Speaker 2: go to his realm when we sleep, and I play
Speaker 2: his familiar, a raven.
Speaker 1: So that's why you know familiar.
Speaker 2: Actually I know about familiar because of dungeons and drugs.
Speaker 2: Third level. Find familiar and you roll the twenties, I
Speaker 2: dice and depending on what you roll that that's what
Speaker 2: you get.
Speaker 3: God.
Speaker 1: That reminds me of I love when you play that.
Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite shows of all time. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's another thing I want to tell you guys about
Speaker 1: haunted dolls on eBay.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, this is ah.
Speaker 3: I believe that that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'll see a ghost, but if
Speaker 3: I see a freakin' doll or an antique an antique doll.
Speaker 1: Now I very much. My personal believe, let's hear it,
Speaker 1: is that these are all fake. Yeah, somebody, because what
Speaker 1: you'll see is people put these dolls on. They make
Speaker 1: a full profile, you know. In the description on eBay.
Speaker 1: It's like a creative writing course like they've got and
Speaker 1: it's always so detailed.
Speaker 3: It's listen, that's fine if someone's going to post something
Speaker 3: on eBay and write bullshit about it. That being said,
Speaker 3: you get invited to a friend's house and you're going
Speaker 3: to stay at her grandmother's house in the woods, and
Speaker 3: the attic has an old dusty bed, and on the
Speaker 3: bed there's like a pretty frilly little pillow, and on
Speaker 3: that pillow is a little old fashioned doll. And that
Speaker 3: doll's wearing like a little white kind of like a
Speaker 3: christening dress. It's like yellowed. And that doll's hair is
Speaker 3: kind of like been yucky, and its face is like
Speaker 3: I'm gonna murder.
Speaker 1: Stop. Did that happen to you?
Speaker 3: No, but that happens every old doll. That's every old doll.
Speaker 3: You'll find it in your grandmother's attic with a dusty
Speaker 3: with a dusty little dress.
Speaker 1: I think you, guys, both of you, you haven't met
Speaker 1: the right haunted doll. I've got one for.
Speaker 2: You, kind of like an American Girls salesman. I love it.
Speaker 2: You're trying to actually listen.
Speaker 1: We have a cafe here if you guys want to
Speaker 1: have a nice lunch. Welcome to the grow. So this
Speaker 1: one she's not an a. She's not an American girl doll,
Speaker 1: but she is from America unless she's.
Speaker 3: Russia and she was brought to Sorry.
Speaker 2: Go on, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I actually you know, I don't know that part of
Speaker 1: her backstory.
Speaker 2: Okay, but I want to hear these backstories.
Speaker 1: Yes, this one, this is Jane. She's going for seventy
Speaker 1: five bucks. Okay.
Speaker 3: Oh, she just showed us a picture of the doll
Speaker 3: she's got.
Speaker 2: Oh god, that's such a huge note.
Speaker 3: Yeah, little band got red curly hair, a beautiful but
Speaker 3: terrifyingly old blue dress with Chiffon's.
Speaker 2: I'm literally hearing. I'm literally having an old like thirties
Speaker 2: big band song through a warbly radio as I look
Speaker 2: at her.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 2: The trama start.
Speaker 1: She definitely take a risk with.
Speaker 3: This dress as silly Prankstert says she is. That's why
Speaker 3: I'm very active. I think you, guys, might you might
Speaker 3: actually like this one.
Speaker 1: Let's hear it, because she's she's not gonna tell you
Speaker 1: she's gonna murder you, it says here Jane. This funny
Speaker 1: little lady is Jane. She doesn't take much of anything
Speaker 1: too seriously, and she appreciates relaxed environments. She loves my
Speaker 1: dogs and has been known to braid their shaggy tails
Speaker 1: from time to time. She likes to play practical jokes
Speaker 1: on us too, and honestly, we love them. She's so funny.
Speaker 1: She loves to make toot noises when we're alone, and
Speaker 1: it has me wondering if I didn't and didn't know.
Speaker 1: She will also make coughing noises and gag from time
Speaker 1: to time to get your attention making noises. She will also,
Speaker 1: and I think this is her favorite, turn off lights
Speaker 1: when you're working. She locked me out of the house
Speaker 1: when I've gone to get the mail, but will quickly
Speaker 1: unlock it and let me in when I call her
Speaker 1: out on it. She passed away when she was very
Speaker 1: elderly and never really grew out of it. She even
Speaker 1: pranked her family with her death many times that they
Speaker 1: didn't believe that she actually passed for a few days
Speaker 1: when she actually did. She likes to pose her vessel
Speaker 1: and funny poses for places in different places for you
Speaker 1: to find. I've moved in with my mother recently, and
Speaker 1: she doesn't like my dolls. Thankfully, she's given me time
Speaker 1: to adopt them all instead of expecting me to throw
Speaker 1: them out. She knows I never could do that, as
Speaker 1: I see them all as living beings.
Speaker 2: First off, that was a fabulous read. I think that
Speaker 2: was a fabulous read. And all I'm thinking now is
Speaker 2: like a little low Budge premieres on Shutter horror movie
Speaker 2: called Lady, and you're this woman that has access to
Speaker 2: all these evil dolls, but you so oversell it and
Speaker 2: you're so campy An arch about it that people are like, well,
Speaker 2: it's clearly not haunted. This will be hilarious, we should
Speaker 2: get it. And you're basically infecting the world with this
Speaker 2: army of evil dolls that are doing your bidding.
Speaker 1: This is a documentary. Yeah, there's something This is really
Speaker 1: happening right now.
Speaker 2: As camp and fun as you tried to make the read,
Speaker 2: that actually made it scarier, like you actually have. I
Speaker 2: have access to something genuinely malignant, and the only way
Speaker 2: I can hide it I better hide it in plain
Speaker 2: sight by being so over the top that people will go, well,
Speaker 2: it's clearly not a real haunted Are.
Speaker 3: You considering purchasing this doll off? eBay?
Speaker 2: No, but I just like reading about them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like reading about them. I don't think that
Speaker 1: they're real, right right, But also I don't want one
Speaker 1: in my home, right, But I would love to gift
Speaker 1: to you guys. No, nope, no, Now, I was just
Speaker 1: trying to be I don't believe, as.
Speaker 2: I've often said, I don't believe in ghosts, but I
Speaker 2: do believe vibes, and BOYD is that thing giving off vibes?
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's a prankster. A picture of her being like
Speaker 1: she's not jackass, like she's gonna come behind you with
Speaker 1: clippers and just zip.
Speaker 3: Your hair, Like yeah, but that's evil.
Speaker 1: I think she sounds like fun.
Speaker 2: You know what. I'm sorry, doll and prankster. Don't want
Speaker 2: them together in the same house.
Speaker 1: Okay, well it was worth a shot. Guys. Here's one
Speaker 1: other thing.
Speaker 2: I have Any of your guests ever taken on a
Speaker 2: haunted doll, you were like, you're like it, you were,
Speaker 2: oh my god, you are like Sarah McLaughlin, But for
Speaker 2: haunted dolls, you're trying to get them. Yeah, you're playing
Speaker 2: They're playing the song Angel and you're like, look at this,
Speaker 2: Look at this, dear little porcelain face. This, this doll
Speaker 2: has witnessed so many murders. Can't you put them in
Speaker 2: a house where there is no killing and there's something
Speaker 2: really happy?
Speaker 1: She just wants there.
Speaker 2: You go, you're the Sarah McLaughlin haunted dolls.
Speaker 1: This one. But it wasn't you. You can blame it
Speaker 1: on the doll. That would be good. I'm thinking either
Speaker 1: that I was actually going for more for for profit
Speaker 1: rather than so. I was thinking more like a lu
Speaker 1: La row or whatever it's called. I'll start my own yes, okay.
Speaker 1: So here's another thing that we always adoption agency.
Speaker 3: You should have your own dollars exactly.
Speaker 1: That's how a lot of these people look at it.
Speaker 1: They're like, you can we want to frame these because
Speaker 1: you know they always put on eBay eBay, like where
Speaker 1: we have to put this on here. It's like the
Speaker 1: sellers always like legally eBay forbids the sell of intangible
Speaker 1: objects like spirits, entities, luck, magic, et cetera. Therefore, I
Speaker 1: am only selling this as a doll. There is no
Speaker 1: guarantee of paranormal supernatural events.
Speaker 2: So it's very like, yeah, that's part.
Speaker 3: Of the pay. This doll is haunted because clearly that's illegal.
Speaker 3: But you know, for my opinion and an opinion, you know,
Speaker 3: this doll is haunted, but that's just an opinion. It's
Speaker 3: not a legal fact.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: You guys want to hear some ghost voices?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh boy, okay, yes, some of these. A friend of mine,
Speaker 2: the actress Paula pell Yes, pointed me toward a podcast
Speaker 2: about ghosts. There is an EVP. She goes in the
Speaker 2: middle of this episode of playing EVP and it.
Speaker 3: What is a VP?
Speaker 1: Totten?
Speaker 2: It is a something voice? What is it?
Speaker 1: Electronic voice phenomenal phenomena.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're William. Peter Bladdie, who wrote The Exorcist very
Speaker 2: famously experimented with this in the seventies and eighties where
Speaker 2: he would leave a tape recorder and hit record and go,
Speaker 2: I invite any of the spirits in this room to
Speaker 2: leave your voice on this tape, and then he'd leave
Speaker 2: the room and then come back later and play the
Speaker 2: tape and they'd listen to a different frequencies and voices and stuff.
Speaker 1: So it's basically anytime they capture a ghost.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's let's speaking.
Speaker 1: It's time for EVP or ev pase. So here's what
Speaker 1: I do. I go to my favorite place, the Internet,
Speaker 1: and I look for where people believe they've captured EVPs.
Speaker 1: We're gonna listen to it a couple of times, and
Speaker 1: i'm gonna have you guess what it says or what
Speaker 1: the ghost hunter believes it says, and then I'll give
Speaker 1: you some options. So I was trying. I always like
Speaker 1: to try to get them from people's like hometowns or
Speaker 1: home states. There's nothing in Malibu. I couldn't find any
Speaker 1: ghosts in Malibu, but Virginia ghosts everywhere.
Speaker 2: Well, Jesus Revolutionary War, in Civil war, we're stinking with ghosts.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of that.
Speaker 2: Battlefields are nothing but ghosts, definitely.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I don't know much about the
Speaker 1: ghosts of this place, but this one. It was posted
Speaker 1: by Enjoy the Silence one sixty nine. Hey, and it
Speaker 1: is at a major Graham mansion which is in max Meadows, Virginia.
Speaker 1: Tell me what this ghost is saying.
Speaker 3: And before wait, don't answer it until we both.
Speaker 1: Like, honestly, okay, So it's definitely like a little sentence.
Speaker 2: Played a couple of times.
Speaker 1: H An He guesses, Oh no, no, no, no, it's.
Speaker 3: It's like it's like I played it cool, but it's
Speaker 3: not I played it cool.
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't it be?
Speaker 3: Could do it again?
Speaker 2: It sounds like the house is something something like I
Speaker 2: don't want to say, like the house is not for you,
Speaker 2: but it sounds like the house is.
Speaker 1: That sounds like something a ghost would say, the house
Speaker 1: is not for you.
Speaker 2: I don't hear not for you as clear as I
Speaker 2: hear the house. First, let me give you some options, okay.
Speaker 1: One of these is what Enjoy the Silence one sixty
Speaker 1: nine believes it says, is it a from now on?
Speaker 1: My name is Megan? No, I don't know what that
Speaker 1: ghost is? What else?
Speaker 3: What's happening?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Is it B, I don't play that tune? Is it
Speaker 1: C I'm not looking at you?
Speaker 2: Or is it D?
Speaker 1: Veronica is a name I like too. This ghost is
Speaker 1: trying on different names.
Speaker 3: Let's hear it one more time. What was the second
Speaker 3: one you said.
Speaker 1: I don't play that tune?
Speaker 2: No, it's not definitely not that one. Play it one
Speaker 2: more time.
Speaker 1: You guys are taking this so seriously. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what the prize is Jane the Haunted Dolls?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what is the ghost on? Or think this
Speaker 2: ghost is saying?
Speaker 1: They believe it? Saying? I don't play that too?
Speaker 3: It sounds like that.
Speaker 1: That's what I gotta hear it.
Speaker 3: It's basically what I said. I played it cool, is
Speaker 3: what I said.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there was a play in that.
Speaker 2: Let me hear it again. Yeah, I mean, although this
Speaker 2: is that thing though, I've seen this on where they'll
Speaker 2: play one sound, but depending on what they'll they'll write
Speaker 2: out five different words and it will sound like that
Speaker 2: word if you're looking at that word when they play
Speaker 2: the sound. Oh yeah, it's that weird phenomenon, which is amazing.
Speaker 1: But that's why I like to listen to it kind
Speaker 1: of cold and we kind of guess, yeah, yeah, because
Speaker 1: who really knows.
Speaker 2: What There is a real there is real emotion to
Speaker 2: that voice. Though it sounds not frustrated, but like I'm
Speaker 2: done here, like go away, like we're done talking, right.
Speaker 2: It has that It sounds.
Speaker 3: Like somebody was talking in the other room and somebody
Speaker 3: was recording something from someone talking to the other room.
Speaker 3: Doesn't really sound like a ghost to me.
Speaker 1: I mean, who really knows.
Speaker 3: It doesn't sound like a ghost to me.
Speaker 1: I actually have another one. We always do two here,
Speaker 1: So this next one was posted by Paul Terry and
Speaker 1: is that the Saint Albans Sanatorium and Radford, virgin Ya.
Speaker 2: Okay, right off the fucking bat Radford, Virginia, Everything down
Speaker 2: South eighty one, Radford, Black Blacksburg, New Boston, all that
Speaker 2: whole area is so creepy down in the mountains. I
Speaker 2: used to do gigs are all the time. Again, never
Speaker 2: saw anything paranormal, but there is the most creepy fucking
Speaker 2: vibe and the fact that it's a sanatorium, I assume
Speaker 2: it's closed down and abandoned in the mountains of Radford.
Speaker 2: It must be Radford, Virginia is a very psychotic city.
Speaker 2: Very psychotic. I've done a lot of one of the
Speaker 2: few gigs where I was threatened, someone threatened to beat
Speaker 2: me up after a show. Oh god, So there's a
Speaker 2: there's a there's a there's a ribbon of bad vibes
Speaker 2: in the air when you're in Radford. I'm just telling
Speaker 2: you right now, all.
Speaker 3: Right, let's hear that.
Speaker 2: Oh, here we go, ready for us to hear it?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, here we go.
Speaker 3: Oh that was easy. I got that one.
Speaker 1: What does say, honey?
Speaker 3: You want to play it one more time before I
Speaker 3: tell you? I mean, I was like, oh, come.
Speaker 2: On or or or or oh come here.
Speaker 1: It's like definitely an oh something.
Speaker 2: Listen, yeah you're oh come on. I think they're saying,
Speaker 2: oh come on.
Speaker 3: It's like you guys, don't hear me. I'm a ghost.
Speaker 1: Oh come on, oh come on, Like wait.
Speaker 3: Did you hear did you hear a ghost sound out there?
Speaker 3: And then the ghost is like, oh, come on, these
Speaker 3: people with their equipment like it's like it's like there's
Speaker 3: a bunch of people bad.
Speaker 2: Enough that I'm stuck in red.
Speaker 3: They're like, do you guys hear that there's a ghost here?
Speaker 3: Like I don't hear a ghost, and then the ghost goes,
Speaker 3: oh come on.
Speaker 1: Well that's not what they believe it sounds.
Speaker 3: Come on, what do they think it is?
Speaker 1: Okay? Is it a oh crap?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: B poke around? No see don't come back? Or d
Speaker 1: poke a rap, which I think is a genre of
Speaker 1: music the only Al Yanko Al Yankovic has gotten into.
Speaker 2: It's definitely not poke a rap. It could be don't
Speaker 2: come back.
Speaker 1: I hear Mocha frap. Okay, it does sound like Mocha
Speaker 1: frap moa wraps in my.
Speaker 3: Head, but I think it sounds I think it's come on.
Speaker 2: I think it's don't come back.
Speaker 1: They believe they believe it's don't come back.
Speaker 3: Oh fuck, maybe it does. It does also sound like
Speaker 3: don't come back. Don't come back sound spooky, but oh
Speaker 3: come on, I think is more fun, but don't come
Speaker 3: back is too scary. I don't want to hear.
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear that again. EVPs are really
Speaker 2: really eery and unsettling.
Speaker 3: Oh fuck, if it says don't come back, that fucking
Speaker 3: scared the shit out of me it don't come back.
Speaker 3: It does sound like that, but otherwise it's more like, oh,
Speaker 3: come on, you idiots. I really like, oh, come on
Speaker 3: better because that's too scary, I mean too scary.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was the ghost of the person that tried
Speaker 1: to beat you up Hatton saying don't come.
Speaker 2: Back, come back, don't come back to this horrible one
Speaker 2: nighter that you made twenty five dollars at.
Speaker 1: Why did somebody try to beat you up?
Speaker 2: I did the most, the tamest stuff ever about religion.
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of Pentecostal crackers up in the
Speaker 2: hills and they were not happy. Wow. Yeah, there's whole
Speaker 2: long YouTube collections of EVPs, and if you ever want
Speaker 2: to not go to sleep at night, I know you
Speaker 2: listen to some of that shit. Oh I know.
Speaker 1: I spend hours trying to find good ones.
Speaker 2: And there's one of a woman singing a lullaby that
Speaker 2: I never need to hear again. Literally, yes, exactly.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, let's do one last thing real quick. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna like throw out some stuff. Tell me if
Speaker 1: you believe in it, tell me if you haven't experience
Speaker 1: anything like that.
Speaker 2: You're gonna be like Antie Potts and Ghostbusters.
Speaker 1: Sure do you believe?
Speaker 2: Remember that long list? She gives to Ernie HUDs and
Speaker 2: he goes, look, if you'll pay me, I'll believe whatever.
Speaker 1: You say exactly now again, I will pay you with
Speaker 1: Jane the doll.
Speaker 2: Damn it, you will.
Speaker 1: That's all I can get.
Speaker 2: That doll shows up at my fucking house.
Speaker 1: Well, actually, I want to go back to Wija boards
Speaker 1: for a second. Okay, because Meredith, I want to hear
Speaker 1: your Matt damon boards.
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right, when Matt, when Matt, well, Matt
Speaker 3: and I went to college together, and then after college
Speaker 3: he moved to la and he was staying in this
Speaker 3: little house on Melrose and we'd hang out all the time.
Speaker 3: And one day I brought over a Wiji board. And again,
Speaker 3: this particular Wigi board had different symbols on it. It
Speaker 3: wasn't just the typical. There were like there was like
Speaker 3: a butterfly in one corner again with the butterfly in
Speaker 3: the ground, and uh, and we did it and it
Speaker 3: definitely was moving. And gosh, I'm having a hard time
Speaker 3: remembering if it was like about my grandpa or there was.
Speaker 1: Something about making it up, make it.
Speaker 3: Like something happened and we were doing it, and uh,
Speaker 3: like River Phoenix had died the year before, and that
Speaker 3: like meant something well to me because he was a dear,
Speaker 3: dear friend of mine, but to Matt also just because
Speaker 3: he knew who he was. And I think there was
Speaker 3: like a little thing about River, you know, something about
Speaker 3: that that was it was spelling out things. And but
Speaker 3: then it also had this this little butterfly thing, and
Speaker 3: it kept going to the butterfly thing for me. And
Speaker 3: so yeah, we just did it together.
Speaker 2: Did you specifically ask to contact someone or you just
Speaker 2: sort of moving the plant it around?
Speaker 3: No, we were just like And then of course, just
Speaker 3: like with my sister when I was a little girl
Speaker 3: doing it, I would sit there and going, Okay, you
Speaker 3: promise you're not going to move it, Like don't move.
Speaker 1: It right right, That's always the comment.
Speaker 3: I love you, I trust you. Let's like really see
Speaker 3: if this thing real, like for real, like don't fucking
Speaker 3: touch it. And so we both like it was moving
Speaker 3: like I we were. He was like my best guy
Speaker 3: friend at Harvard. We were like brother and sister. It
Speaker 3: didn't we were like really trying for real to like
Speaker 3: have it be real. And I think it really did
Speaker 3: for real move. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think with wigi boards, is that like when
Speaker 1: you talk about when people talk about demons coming in
Speaker 1: or whatever. I think it is similar to like a
Speaker 1: lot of things on the internet, like chat rooms or
Speaker 1: like did you ever did you guys ever know about
Speaker 1: chat roulette? Oh? Yeah, it was that kind of let
Speaker 1: which I think is that kind of a thing where
Speaker 1: you're just kind of like, who's around, right? It could
Speaker 1: be someone amazing, or it could be a disembodied penis right, right,
Speaker 1: you know you never know what chickena gat?
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think that with the wigi board, it's like,
Speaker 3: whoever needs to tell me something, let me know, right,
Speaker 3: So whoever, I'm not asking for anyone, but whatever comes
Speaker 3: I will like.
Speaker 1: But it could be something creepy.
Speaker 2: That's what I mean. I don't know what you're going
Speaker 2: to let in.
Speaker 3: I don't have that, No, I don't. I don't. I
Speaker 3: don't have creepy energy in my life, so I don't.
Speaker 2: You don't know what's hanging out by the gate when
Speaker 2: you open it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, unless somebody is being known creepy stuff wants creepy stuff.
Speaker 1: It's we're all looking for community, you know, A creepy stuff,
Speaker 1: creepy a demon see someone that's acting demon like, They're like,
Speaker 1: that's who I want to hang out with. They don
Speaker 1: want to hang out with you if you're having a
Speaker 1: good time.
Speaker 3: No, I'm yeah, everything with me is like all pure
Speaker 3: love and light and so I'm not going to get
Speaker 3: some scary thing.
Speaker 1: No, they don't want that. That doesn't sound like fun
Speaker 1: for them.
Speaker 3: It's not fun for them.
Speaker 1: Okay, what about past lives? Do you believe in that?
Speaker 1: Do you have you ever had any thoughts about your
Speaker 1: own past lives?
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think that I've had I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't really think about past lives. I really don't.
Speaker 2: Past lives to me sound like it sounds like such
Speaker 2: wish fulfillment of someone who maybe they haven't made their
Speaker 2: life be what they want it to be yet, but
Speaker 2: they can always go. But you know, I was a
Speaker 2: Mungol conqueror right in an earlier life, and it's like, well,
Speaker 2: then that energy clearly didn't pass on. I think you live.
Speaker 2: Everyone gets to the life they have. I think that
Speaker 2: there's your soul is your soul.
Speaker 3: It might go, you know, although like you know, I
Speaker 3: wouldn't say so. Much as past life, but like the
Speaker 3: energy like might exist in a flower, or it might
Speaker 3: exist in a tree, or it might exist just floating
Speaker 3: around the universe, just as nature of some kind. But
Speaker 3: I don't believe like my soul like lived a life, right,
Speaker 3: I think it's just my soul is my soul. That's
Speaker 3: just what it is, you.
Speaker 2: Know what, I know what I equate it to. We
Speaker 2: are living. The universe we live in is a extremely
Speaker 2: slow motion explosion. That's what we are in. The Big
Speaker 2: Bang never actually ended, I mean in it. You could
Speaker 2: argue that this is all part of the explosion. And
Speaker 2: when you watch like let's say, like a burning building,
Speaker 2: and you watch it framed a frame, some of the
Speaker 2: freeze frames that the looks like there's a face in
Speaker 2: the smoke, or a piece of wreckage falls off, and
Speaker 2: it looks like So it exists in different states right now.
Speaker 2: The energy from that explosion is temporarily formed into Some
Speaker 2: of it's this table, some of it's you, some of
Speaker 2: it's me, some of it's Meredith. It will keep changing.
Speaker 2: This is just how the explosion looks during this nano
Speaker 2: second of its existence, and it will all keep moving
Speaker 2: and transforming. But I don't think it's in terms of
Speaker 2: like you die, your soul is collected and stuck into
Speaker 2: another life. It's just the energy just keeps moving in
Speaker 2: this slow motion explosion. We have temporarily formed into this
Speaker 2: for this moment in time, but we will be a
Speaker 2: lot of different things.
Speaker 1: That's what about psychics, you guys? Ever been to a psychic?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: What was it like?
Speaker 3: I will tell you I did go to a psychic.
Speaker 3: Her name was Jackie Bell. She lived in the valley.
Speaker 3: She was like a nice Jewish mom, totally normal. I
Speaker 3: went to her house like a nice normal person's house.
Speaker 3: Wasn't like spiritual at all. Went into her kitchen. She
Speaker 3: had a little recording. She's like, you can keep this
Speaker 3: and in Okay, two things for real, no joke. One
Speaker 3: of them was I think she knew I was an actress.
Speaker 3: I think I said I was. And she said, oh,
Speaker 3: you're gonna get Europe for something right now. This sounds
Speaker 3: very brue this sounds vague and it could be anything,
Speaker 3: but listen, it's not. She said, you're up for something
Speaker 3: right now, something big. And I said, oh, I yes,
Speaker 3: I was. I was. I found out that I didn't
Speaker 3: get it today and she goes, no, no, no, you
Speaker 3: got it, and I said, no, no, I didn't get it.
Speaker 3: Someone else got it. I didn't get it. And she said,
Speaker 3: I'm telling you this part is yours. And I said, okay,
Speaker 3: you don't seem to understand. They gave it to another actress.
Speaker 3: I didn't get it. I'm telling you, this part is yours.
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, fine, idiot whatever. In the back
Speaker 3: of my mind, I'm like, fun herse she doesn't understand anything.
Speaker 3: Later in the Okay, I'll just tell you. The end
Speaker 3: of that story was there was a series called Orleans
Speaker 3: that shot in New Orleans. It starred Larry Hagman. I
Speaker 3: played his daughter. The girl who was cast. They went
Speaker 3: to film it. They fired her after two days and
Speaker 3: they called me and I replaced her. This is a
Speaker 3: good story, so that one's real. That is a fucking
Speaker 3: real thing.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: I was like, I didn't get it and I didn't
Speaker 3: and she goes, yes, you did, and I did, Okay,
Speaker 3: that's crazy. Same lady's, same session. She said, oh, I
Speaker 3: want you to be very careful and I said why.
Speaker 3: She goes, someone's going to try to take something from
Speaker 3: you and I said, what do you mean? She said,
Speaker 3: I see someone trying to take something from you. She said,
Speaker 3: just be very careful, and she said it could be violent,
Speaker 3: it could be scary. And I was like, no, what,
Speaker 3: like what, I don't know. It seems like they're going
Speaker 3: to take a bag from you or something from you.
Speaker 3: And I was like okay. And literally a week later,
Speaker 3: I was with a boy from London who was in town.
Speaker 3: We went and had coffee at the Kings Road cafe.
Speaker 3: I lived two blocks from there. He and I had
Speaker 3: just finished coffee ten o'clock at night. We were walking
Speaker 3: back to my apartment and out of the alley come
Speaker 3: this one guy comes up to the boy I was
Speaker 3: with and is like, He's like, heyman, have a cigarette.
Speaker 3: And then he's like give me. He puts a gun
Speaker 3: in his stomach and says give me your wallet. And
Speaker 3: at the time, I'm watching this whole thing, and I've
Speaker 3: got my purse on my shoulder and I'm watching thinking
Speaker 3: do I run, do I run away? Do I throw
Speaker 3: my purse? What do I do? And then another one
Speaker 3: comes out of the alley and goes, give me your
Speaker 3: fucking purse and put a gun in my face. And
Speaker 3: I looked at the guy and I went, let me
Speaker 3: just get my keys. And I put like my finger up,
Speaker 3: like hold on a second, buddy, and I go. I
Speaker 3: was like, he goes give me a fucking purse. I go, okay,
Speaker 3: let me just get my keys. And I bent down
Speaker 3: and I unzipped my purse and I took out my
Speaker 3: keys because my apartment is literally right there. And then
Speaker 3: I took the bag and I gave it to him
Speaker 3: and I said go, and then they ran away and
Speaker 3: they took my purse.
Speaker 2: And it was.
Speaker 3: Scary and it was violent, and that literally happened like
Speaker 3: I'd never been held up at gunpoint before in my
Speaker 3: whole life.
Speaker 1: So like, what's the benefit of a psychic telling you that,
Speaker 1: just like I don't know, this will happen and then
Speaker 1: you'll see that I'm legit, Like.
Speaker 2: What do you?
Speaker 3: I don't know. She was like, be be careful. I
Speaker 3: don't know. Maybe it was warning. Maybe don't get upset
Speaker 3: about the job you're going to get it. Maybe this
Speaker 3: is what I see for you. I don't know what's
Speaker 3: going to happen, but this is what I see.
Speaker 2: Do either of you think that if a psychic gives
Speaker 2: you a prediction that you can affect what they tell
Speaker 2: you is going to happen, or what they see is
Speaker 2: going to happen no matter what you do.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know, but how crazy is
Speaker 3: that acting? Thing? That is crazy because that is so
Speaker 3: specific and if you don't get apart, you don't get apart.
Speaker 3: Never in the history of time have I ever not
Speaker 3: gotten something and then been replaced and gotten it like
Speaker 3: that just has never happened to me before. So that's
Speaker 3: real interest. I want to call that. I wonder if
Speaker 3: she's still alive because this was like twenty years ago.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: If she's not, she could probably speak through as psyche.
Speaker 2: Get a board. Hey, remember me.
Speaker 1: Get the board out.
Speaker 3: I remember her name.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's just do one more. What do you think bigfoot? Real?
Speaker 3: Listen, there are different creatures that look like different things
Speaker 3: that you see. For example, have you ever seen a
Speaker 3: hairless bear? It's fucking terrifying.
Speaker 1: I can't say I ever have.
Speaker 3: Oh, look up albino bear or something like that, and
Speaker 3: they look like these chupacabra creatures that are so terrifying
Speaker 3: you just don't know what they are.
Speaker 2: But a hairless pair wouldn't look like a bigfoot.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying a hairless bear looks like Bigfoot. I'm
Speaker 3: saying if you saw a hairless bear, you wouldn't realize
Speaker 3: that's a bear, right, And so what I'm saying is
Speaker 3: a bigfoot. I think like there's that one fucking picture, right.
Speaker 3: I don't think there's tons of pictures of Bigfoot.
Speaker 1: Oh no, there's a bunch of people that but there's
Speaker 1: the famous.
Speaker 3: There's the famous one, and that is but that one's
Speaker 3: been been debunked well, some saying that.
Speaker 2: The Patterson Gimlin film, the guy that shot it said that,
Speaker 2: oh no, we did that as a prank. And the
Speaker 2: rumor is, the big urban legend is it was shot
Speaker 2: by then eighteen year old John Landis and that Rick
Speaker 2: Baker made the cost. That's not what that's the room.
Speaker 3: We're friends with them. We can call and ask.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's you guys know Rick Baker, Yes, and
Speaker 1: yes Baker.
Speaker 2: Well but he might never but that that was the
Speaker 2: big urban myth. Oh it was len like they didn't
Speaker 2: like they were hired by the person that wanted to
Speaker 2: do it and then they shot it.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying is you might see something in the
Speaker 3: forest that is a thing just like a hairless bear
Speaker 3: is a bear. You might see something that looks like
Speaker 3: something you've never seen before, but maybe it's, like, you know,
Speaker 3: just like some men are extra harry than other men.
Speaker 1: Maybe some it's just like an app normality.
Speaker 3: Or maybe it's just like a creature that is just
Speaker 3: more strangely looking than other creatures, but it's actually a
Speaker 3: regular creature.
Speaker 2: I don't know, what do you think of cryptids, Bigfoot,
Speaker 2: all that stuff.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I talk about it constantly, and I.
Speaker 3: Feel like, I'm if it existed, we'd see it.
Speaker 1: I think it's more of a ghost if anything. I
Speaker 1: say this giving the benefit of the doubt to all
Speaker 1: these people that have these TV shows looking for Bigfoot
Speaker 1: for eight years and they've never seen Bigfoot, but they
Speaker 1: still get renewed every year. Yeah, I'm like, listen, I'm
Speaker 1: on your side. But a lot of those people don't
Speaker 1: believe that it's a ghost. They think it is a
Speaker 1: real creature.
Speaker 3: And it might be a real creature.
Speaker 2: But it might just I mean, the ghost of one
Speaker 2: of our forebears on the evolutionary scale is a really
Speaker 2: interesting take. I never thought of it that way.
Speaker 1: Well, because I'm always like, why can't they catch it?
Speaker 1: You can catch anything like you. I mean.
Speaker 2: And also with the amount of deforestation that's going on
Speaker 2: these days, where is it left for these things to hide? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: I mean, we've got like seven coyotes on the street
Speaker 3: last night. It doesn't exist. Come on, it's ridiculous. It
Speaker 3: was a thing that somebody saw that looked just like
Speaker 3: the loch Ness monster is like perhaps a thing that
Speaker 3: maybe it was two things in the ocean at the
Speaker 3: same time. It was too dolph. It wasn't dolphins, clearly
Speaker 3: because it's not an ocean. But my point is two
Speaker 3: creatures of eel like look that were at the same
Speaker 3: time that the photograph was taken. It looks like it's
Speaker 3: one creature, Like come on these Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Because also it's like if we figure out, like, oh,
Speaker 1: we captured a bigfoot, now it's just like some Okay,
Speaker 1: it's like a rare animal, like right, like rareymore.
Speaker 3: Now there's a billion rare things we've never seen. Look
Speaker 3: at the ocean. It's insane.
Speaker 1: I constantly see like you know, a fish with human
Speaker 1: teeth was just found or whatever, or it's like there's
Speaker 1: always like random I get these weird like targeted things
Speaker 1: that'll be like look at this Uh, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it'll be like this centipede kind of looks like Gary
Speaker 1: Busey or like what. So it's like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: just an abnormal.
Speaker 2: I just I don't know how many new animal discoveries
Speaker 2: are going to happen on the surface. I think that'll
Speaker 2: happen the more we map the ocean. We've only ever
Speaker 2: mapped five percent of the entire oceans. God knows what's
Speaker 2: down there and the stuff. And that's one of my
Speaker 2: big fears, my big recurring nightmare images is being super
Speaker 2: super deep down in the water. There's just an a
Speaker 2: flight and then something massive comes out of the darkness
Speaker 2: at you that's aware of you, and I'm like, that's it. Nope.
Speaker 2: So when I see like there's a there's a woman
Speaker 2: that I follow on Instagram named ocean Ramsey, and I
Speaker 2: follow her out of this sick fascination because she swims
Speaker 2: with sharks and she's about preserving these things and they're
Speaker 2: massive and she swim and there's footage of them coming
Speaker 2: out of the gloom at her, and I'm like, nope,
Speaker 2: hell no.
Speaker 1: I don't go in the ocean. That's like, nope, nope,
Speaker 1: it's all about sharks for me.
Speaker 3: You guys, is that you are so adorable? I love you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I've discovered you.
Speaker 2: Now. I got to start listening to this podcast. I
Speaker 2: want to go down the rabbit holes you've gone down.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: And do you have any like trips planned to visit
Speaker 2: any I have a friend that gives a ghost tour
Speaker 2: of a mansion down in Irvine.
Speaker 1: Really that's not far.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll get you the info. But do you take
Speaker 2: Do you have excursions planned where you're going to visit anything?
Speaker 1: I don't have any planned, but I need to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want to. You already don't want to.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm conflicted. You know, I have to
Speaker 1: have the content. We've been doing this podcast for over
Speaker 1: three years. I gotta have a talk about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta start traveling. So then maybe you need
Speaker 2: to go do a live show. You need to.
Speaker 3: Sleep on the Queen Mary. You need to do the
Speaker 3: weedy Board in the Queen Mary.
Speaker 2: Or find a famously haunted theater and do a live show.
Speaker 2: I have Oh you have at what theater? Well?
Speaker 1: It's a place in Los Philis called Casita del Campo,
Speaker 1: Mexican restaurant, tak place. Wait, that's my favorite place in
Speaker 1: the world.
Speaker 2: It's a Bud Court's favorite place. That's really Budcourt lives
Speaker 2: in Los Phillies and he loves Cassina del Campo.
Speaker 1: It's the best. And the basement has like a little
Speaker 1: theater and it's where a lot of like drag queens
Speaker 1: and queer entertainers do shows and like we do like
Speaker 1: drag queen, Golden Girls and like stuff like that happens
Speaker 1: down there. It's so fun. But a lot of people
Speaker 1: report that it's haunted, and so I've done multiple live
Speaker 1: shows down there. Nothing's happened, really, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: These ghosts don't want to be on my show.
Speaker 2: Now the words out because aggressive what you want them?
Speaker 3: You want them too much. You have to play hard to.
Speaker 2: Get think of another literally, think of another persona to
Speaker 2: keep doing this podcast. But they do like a sports
Speaker 2: talk show and you just do sports talk, but you
Speaker 2: do it in these haunted places, and like who gives
Speaker 2: a shit? And then they'll start visiting all the time.
Speaker 1: I should get it.
Speaker 3: Trick yeah, mustache, yeah, put on a little baseball.
Speaker 2: Cap call let's go Mets, and you need to talk
Speaker 2: about the Mets. And then suddenly the ghosts well hang
Speaker 2: out here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, these guys are gonna be like, what is this show?
Speaker 1: This person knows nothing about baseball, basketball?
Speaker 3: What sports?
Speaker 1: Yeah I know, or or what I needed? I need
Speaker 1: to hire a psychic as a booker that book me
Speaker 1: some ghosts.
Speaker 2: Find you.
Speaker 3: Oh, book you some ghosts. That would be great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you need to find a ghost booker.
Speaker 3: Trying that ghost ghostbusterker. Oh my god, you guys new show.
Speaker 1: Shout out your podcast.
Speaker 3: The name of our podcast is did you get my text?
Speaker 2: And we we send each other spiritual messages over a
Speaker 2: Wiji board. We just we text each other. We live together.
Speaker 2: We're married, but like a lot of married people and
Speaker 2: a lot of couples, even if you live together, you
Speaker 2: just text half the day and so we go back
Speaker 2: through our text decipher things, follow up on stuff. We're
Speaker 2: always sending each other weird articles where pictures, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: look at this.
Speaker 1: So yeah, like I'll.
Speaker 3: Get texts all day long. I don't talk to him
Speaker 3: all day like ever, I don't really ever talk to him,
Speaker 3: but every now and then we'll text each other and
Speaker 3: we'll put like a thumbs up on it or a
Speaker 3: heart on it, and then the podcast gives us an
Speaker 3: opportunity to sit down and go, Okay, you got my
Speaker 3: text about that thing, let's talk about that. Let me
Speaker 3: actually get to talk about it, because you know, it's
Speaker 3: not just oh that's interesting, thanks for sharing me by myself.
Speaker 3: I got to discover this on my own, like, let's
Speaker 3: have a conversation about it.
Speaker 1: That's so sweet.
Speaker 3: Cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you guys have good guests now and yeah
Speaker 1: ben Stiller.
Speaker 2: Ben Stiller was fascinating. Yeah, had really cool guests on.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Paton and Meredith. I had
Speaker 1: a great time. Oh hey, you know, comedy fans, I
Speaker 1: am going to be reviving my show I used to
Speaker 1: do with Sam Pancake here in La at my favorite place,
Speaker 1: the Cavern Club Theater at Casita del Campo. We're doing
Speaker 1: that on June ninth. You can get tickets in my
Speaker 1: Instagram biot description. Also check out patreon dot com slash
Speaker 1: rolls Dress falast I guess I'm keeping that as that.
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's a description, there's a link in
Speaker 1: the description and that has a new episode this week
Speaker 1: of me talking about paranormal stuff, and I'm on Instagram
Speaker 1: at Roz Hernandez and TikTok and Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez.
Speaker 1: Please rate the show five stars and only five stars.
Speaker 1: Leave a ghost story in there, Send me a ghost
Speaker 1: story at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com. And
Speaker 1: I can't wait to laugh and talk and spook with
Speaker 1: you next week. I love you all, both living and dead.
Speaker 1: But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't
Speaker 1: haunt me. Came Back.
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