Speaker 1: Twelve play the drive, Wilson cats rid of it for
Speaker 1: the touchdown.
Speaker 2: To Javonte Williams.
Speaker 1: What a job by Russell Wilson under heavy pressure from
Speaker 1: Tyrel Dodson and just got it over him for the
Speaker 1: three yard touchdown. And they have a second in goal.
Speaker 1: As Letitious Murray is in the backfield next to Allen,
Speaker 1: they fake it to him looking for Kincaid. Alan's gonna
Speaker 1: take it touchdown Buffalo.
Speaker 3: Good snap, good.
Speaker 1: Hold, kick perfect, and the Broncos have come to Buffalo
Speaker 1: and they're gonna leave with a win twenty four twenty two.
Speaker 2: To get to four and five.
Speaker 3: Luck be a Lutz tonight, Will Lutz. He gets a
Speaker 3: do over after he pushed one wide right from forty one,
Speaker 3: seemingly giving the Buffalo Bills a narrow victory at home.
Speaker 3: But after the Bills get called for twelve men on
Speaker 3: the field, lets gets that do over and pipes it
Speaker 3: from thirty six. The difference in a twenty four to
Speaker 3: twenty two Bronco's victory over a Bills team that cannot
Speaker 3: get out of its own way Right now, I am
Speaker 3: Dan hansis joined by Greg Rosenthal from the Chris Westling
Speaker 3: podcast studio and some really almost nightclub like lighting behind you.
Speaker 3: Check this one out on YouTube. Greg. We're gonna get
Speaker 3: to the Bills, because I think the Bills are the
Speaker 3: bigger story in terms of their struggles and what was
Speaker 3: expected of them and what we've seen now for a
Speaker 3: couple of months. But let's start with the Broncos, a
Speaker 3: team that is now four and five. We talked about
Speaker 3: it on the Sunday Flagship Show how there is a
Speaker 3: huge middle class in the AFC of teams that have
Speaker 3: four or five losses and now all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: and probably the Broncos left for dead at zero to
Speaker 3: three after giving up a seventy burger are one of
Speaker 3: those teams after a really truly impressive and unlikely victory.
Speaker 2: I mean, insane would be another word. This was I
Speaker 2: think the craziest game of the year, like just just
Speaker 2: the dumbest, Like.
Speaker 3: I think you had the second the second time was
Speaker 3: right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, you sent the word absurd in a text.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's the best one. I just think it's I
Speaker 2: can't think of a primetime game this year that was
Speaker 2: this insane. We almost have to go through it all
Speaker 2: because I'm with you on the Broncos are back in
Speaker 2: it in a way, and they've shown they're not the Patriots.
Speaker 2: They're not one of the worst teams in the league.
Speaker 2: They're going to be in every game if you give
Speaker 2: them a chance. Their defense is just good enough to
Speaker 2: force four turnovers, but not good enough to stop the
Speaker 2: Bills from going down the field a couple times in
Speaker 2: the fourth, and their offense is just good enough to
Speaker 2: avoid mistakes and make a couple big drives late in
Speaker 2: the game, but not good enough to take advantage of
Speaker 2: incredible field position and all these opportunities. They had to
Speaker 2: have a bigger lead. So they are that team in
Speaker 2: the middle. But I kind of want to start with
Speaker 2: the ending sequence because I've never seen anything quite like it.
Speaker 2: Sean Payton, choosing on a third down with under thirty
Speaker 2: seconds to go, instead of like throwing an incomplete.
Speaker 3: Pass, decides to.
Speaker 2: Kneel on the ball because he doesn't want to give
Speaker 2: the Bills like fifteen seconds and look, I know AFC
Speaker 2: Championship fifteen seconds. Things can happen. But he could have
Speaker 2: just called for an incompletion from Russell Wilson. You could
Speaker 2: have taken some time off the clock too, go back
Speaker 2: for a while and throw a ball over someone's head
Speaker 2: on the sidelight. Instead, he has so much confidence in
Speaker 2: the kicking crew to run out onto the field in
Speaker 2: that situation where the clock doesn't and go kick the
Speaker 2: game winning field goal. He decides the kneil and he
Speaker 2: feels that confidence because they did it at the end
Speaker 2: of the first half and they did a beautiful job
Speaker 2: of it, and he kneels the ball, they run out
Speaker 2: and he pushes the kick in all the insanity, and
Speaker 2: they lose the game if the Bills hadn't completely botched
Speaker 2: it and sent twelve men on the field, like the
Speaker 2: whole playoff race is different because the Bills sent twelve
Speaker 2: men on the field in that situation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was my thought that Sean Peyton a little
Speaker 3: high on his own supply and how perfectly they executed
Speaker 3: it at the end of the second quarter. But in
Speaker 3: this case, and let's rushed it because it wasn't as
Speaker 3: if you know, there were two one second on the
Speaker 3: clock and he had to get the snap off. They
Speaker 3: had time for him to settle. But he rushed it
Speaker 3: clearly and pushed it right and to get that second chance.
Speaker 3: And yet as absurd as that is, and you saw
Speaker 3: Josh Allen's face on the sideline after it all played out.
Speaker 3: I didn't come out of that thinking, oh man, did
Speaker 3: the Bills get screwed here?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 3: Did they? What an unlucky way for a game to end.
Speaker 3: They really had no business winning that game. In my opinion,
Speaker 3: Denver gave them so many opportunities. The fact that they
Speaker 3: missed one extra point they botched impossibly, the hold on
Speaker 3: the score in the fourth quarter, that of course leaves
Speaker 3: the door open for Buffalo to take the lead. And
Speaker 3: then the Bills they just got to get a stop then.
Speaker 3: And this is the difference, I think, and we're going
Speaker 3: to hear from our producer Eric Roberts, a lifelong Bills fan,
Speaker 3: and a bit like the difference between this team and
Speaker 3: past years. And they are, you know, at five hundred
Speaker 3: or lower for the first time since twenty eighteen after tonight.
Speaker 3: It's just like, where's the killer instinct? Where is that
Speaker 3: we are? We're a top team and we kind of
Speaker 3: played with fire tonight, but we stole one by getting
Speaker 3: that late touchdown and then we get the stop. They
Speaker 3: can't get the stop. They let the ball get to midfield,
Speaker 3: and I thought it was you know when they bring
Speaker 3: the house there on second down near midfield. It worked
Speaker 3: like Gangbusters, and they take down Wilson and they have
Speaker 3: to burn dead rest burn its last time out, calling
Speaker 3: the same kind of general scheme or play again. There
Speaker 3: was to me needlessly risky at that point. And all
Speaker 3: Wilson had to do, and I shouldn't say all he
Speaker 3: had to do because that's a difficult play to get
Speaker 3: off with that amount of pressure is once he saw
Speaker 3: it was the same exact type of blitz coming his way,
Speaker 3: get the ball up. Basically throw an armpunt up there,
Speaker 3: and you underthrow Jerry Judy and they call toront Johnson
Speaker 3: with a DPI and it's pretty much good night, nurse.
Speaker 3: So Buffalo just did not execute in the game's most
Speaker 3: important moments there, and that's been a recurring theme all season.
Speaker 2: Right, these two teams looked like five and five teams
Speaker 2: in a four and five team because anytime Russell Wilson
Speaker 2: would make a few plays, he had, you know, that
Speaker 2: touchdown throw to Courtland Sutton, which reminded me of the
Speaker 2: two point conversion from the NFC Championship game back in
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen, and Sutton makes a great play and Wilson's
Speaker 2: avoiding mistakes and even on that last drive it was
Speaker 2: just like a bunch of dumb baff passes. But he
Speaker 2: made the right decisions. He knew when to run like
Speaker 2: he was solid. Right when you think, wow, he's really
Speaker 2: turned in the corner, he took one of those old
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson sacks and that was that play. Troy Aikman
Speaker 2: was so frustrated because that was a situation in the
Speaker 2: game where they were already in field goal range. It
Speaker 2: was a second and four on the thirty nine for
Speaker 2: the Bills. All you have to do there is get
Speaker 2: a few more yards and not take a sack. They
Speaker 2: show zero blitz before the snap. I figured they're faking it.
Speaker 2: They're not going to go Greg Williams on us and
Speaker 2: go cover zero, you know, at the very end of
Speaker 2: the game. And they do it, and it's so well
Speaker 2: executed that they all get in so quickly, and yet
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson, unlike you know, I think a lot of
Speaker 2: veteran quarterbacks would have gotten rid of the ball there
Speaker 2: and he just he takes a sack, which is brutal,
Speaker 2: and for them to run it again was like, man,
Speaker 2: this is not Leslie Fraser. Sean McDermott runs a much
Speaker 2: riskier defense, and it was it was just dumb and
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson, I'm sure would love to have that throwback.
Speaker 2: I know he is happy he got bailed out by
Speaker 2: Toron Johnson, but yeah, he threw that ball up in
Speaker 2: a windy night and he underthrew him by twenty twenty yards.
Speaker 2: That should have been a touchdown.
Speaker 3: All right, take it easy, Greg, Can we because I
Speaker 3: know you're always coming after Wilson? Can we be.
Speaker 2: Saying that wasn't They got the penalty because it was
Speaker 2: such a bad throw. But underthrown deep balls is will
Speaker 2: get you a DPI And that's that's kind of why
Speaker 2: no one runs those those play calls anymore. And they
Speaker 2: get it, and there were more. There was more good
Speaker 2: than bad from Russell Wilson. And it just goes to
Speaker 2: show that there was nothing in this Bills team that
Speaker 2: was consistent tonight. Right when one part of the team
Speaker 2: like James Cook or the running game was getting going,
Speaker 2: they would do something bad like fumble it. Once Josh
Speaker 2: Allen made a couple of nice throws, he would turn
Speaker 2: the ball over. The defense was completely dominant in the
Speaker 2: third quarter that the offense was, you know, keep spinning
Speaker 2: down their leg and the Broncos keep getting the ball
Speaker 2: out across the fifty and the Bills defense stopped them
Speaker 2: for eight yards and four drives and forced the turnover.
Speaker 2: Yet you said it when it came down to it
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, when when the Bills actually get
Speaker 2: a lead, they give up two straight long drives. They
Speaker 2: can't stop Devonte Williams, and then they couldn't stop that
Speaker 2: last drive either. So it's like everything they don't know,
Speaker 2: Like they try to put their finger into one problem
Speaker 2: and another problem pops.
Speaker 3: Up, and I know you're loath to do this, so
Speaker 3: I'm going to do it. I think Russell Wilson might
Speaker 3: not be a star quarterback in the way he was
Speaker 3: in Seattle, but he has had a far better season
Speaker 3: in year two in Denver with Sean Payton. And I
Speaker 3: think you saw that again today because he was not
Speaker 3: overly flashy. But I thought he played a very good
Speaker 3: game overall, and he made throws. He was under pressure
Speaker 3: a lot. He did he had some acrobatic kind of
Speaker 3: flips when he was about to get taken out to
Speaker 3: keep the chains moving. I thought, in general, that Wilson
Speaker 3: has been a real bright spot for them, especially you
Speaker 3: have to like the bigger picture of he was the
Speaker 3: most high profile quarterback in terms of a trade acquisition
Speaker 3: since Peyton Manning and he ends up having the bust
Speaker 3: of all bus seasons. So to come out of the
Speaker 3: ruins of last year and be a guy that now
Speaker 3: goes from that situation to a quarterback that's going to
Speaker 3: head into post Thanksgiving games with his team relevant. I
Speaker 3: thought he played well today and I think that play
Speaker 3: again on the third and long near midfield after he
Speaker 3: takes the sack. Yeah, he underthrew Judy, but it was
Speaker 3: like he got that ball out of there and through
Speaker 3: that big looping rainbow, and you're right, it is this
Speaker 3: slam dunk play of all slam dunk plays right now,
Speaker 3: it seems is underthrow a receiver and you're gonna get Pi,
Speaker 3: and it was Pi. So man, I just it's it's crazy.
Speaker 3: And the Buffalo side of this is this is the
Speaker 3: first time now where you could you're gonna look at
Speaker 3: the Bills and forget about are they a real AFC powerhouse?
Speaker 3: Like are they going to the playoffs? And they are
Speaker 3: losers of three of four they're five and five. As
Speaker 3: I said, this is the first time they've been at
Speaker 3: five hundred or below in five years. And their upcoming
Speaker 3: schedule is home against the Jets on Sunday, a Jets
Speaker 3: team that always gives them fits, at Philly, at CAC
Speaker 3: versus Dallas, at Chargers, lay up against New England, and
Speaker 3: then at Miami. And I mean that I would have
Speaker 3: to say if you ask me now that this is
Speaker 3: not a playoff team, and if this is not a
Speaker 3: playoff team, this could there could be big changes in Buffalo.
Speaker 3: So they are very much now at a crossroads moment.
Speaker 3: And I don't think anyone predicted that in mid November
Speaker 3: this would be a team that is on the rank
Speaker 3: of seeing their season fall apart. They are one of
Speaker 3: the biggest disappointments in football, bar.
Speaker 2: None, no question. I think that's all well said. I
Speaker 2: agree with it all. You couldn't lose. That's why you
Speaker 2: couldn't lose this game, in particular, partly because you have
Speaker 2: an at Philly, you have an at Kansas City, you
Speaker 2: have Dallas, you have an at Miami. You got to
Speaker 2: win a couple of those games there to possibly get
Speaker 2: to ten and seven, and you can't have any more
Speaker 2: slip ups in a game you're favored in, and hell,
Speaker 2: like at Chargers, they're barely favored in that at this
Speaker 2: point you still saw like why they're they're better than
Speaker 2: the Broncos. I mean, I mean they are, They're just
Speaker 2: not enough better to have Josh Allen just drop a
Speaker 2: ball at one point, and he had, he had one
Speaker 2: bad interception, and people are gonna remember this game as
Speaker 2: some sort of like catastrophic Josh Allen game, and it wasn't.
Speaker 2: It was him playing well but having just two like
Speaker 2: terrible moments. And then it's team also having terrible moments.
Speaker 2: James Cook fumbling the very first play of the game,
Speaker 2: gave Davis dropping a pass that turns in to an interception.
Speaker 2: So it's Josh Allen, but it's everything you said. Russell
Speaker 2: Wilson was under pressure, like at points in that little
Speaker 2: spot in the third quarter where I thought he ran
Speaker 2: into some sex and took some sex. But I don't know.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen enough out of this Bill's pass rush
Speaker 2: in general consistently like they're not a difference making group
Speaker 2: really anywhere, And it is shocking to me it is
Speaker 2: really going to test their metal I Am not going
Speaker 2: to give up on them. I'm always that guy in
Speaker 2: this podcast. Maybe it's because my favorite team of all
Speaker 2: time is the two thousand and one Patriots, and they
Speaker 2: were five and five after ten games. And we've seen
Speaker 2: great teams that have great quarterbacks really look bad at
Speaker 2: certain points late in the season, like the Ravens when
Speaker 2: they lost, you know, two games in a row by
Speaker 2: thirty points in mid December and then won the Super
Speaker 2: Bowl like it does happen, and if it was ever
Speaker 2: going to happen, like a team led by Josh Allen
Speaker 2: could do it. But they're not. I'm starting to feel
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna take the l because they are tenth
Speaker 2: in the AFC right now, Dan, I mean, they've got
Speaker 2: like teams to catch up on. Now. There's a bunch
Speaker 2: of teams that have four losses, a bunch of teams
Speaker 2: that have five losses. Almost the entire conference does eight
Speaker 2: teams has four or five losses. So if they could
Speaker 2: start winning games, they'd be fine. But you look at
Speaker 2: that schedule, it'stard.
Speaker 3: To they're not going anywhere. This team's not good enough,
Speaker 3: and they're telling us we've seen enough of a sample
Speaker 3: size where I really do think this is a yeah,
Speaker 3: an average team, like a nine win team maybe, and
Speaker 3: maybe that's enough to get in. Maybe it's not. And
Speaker 3: the difference and it's you know, you know this, Like
Speaker 3: even I enjoyed I was living in Boston at the time,
Speaker 3: and I enjoyed that two thousand and one Patriots team
Speaker 3: and that crazy playoff run because they were an underdog
Speaker 3: team and nothing was expected of them. I think this
Speaker 3: Bills team has crumbled under the weight of expectations and
Speaker 3: a growing sense of pressure that they should have been
Speaker 3: over the hump already by now. And then there was
Speaker 3: this idea that this is the year, this is the
Speaker 3: year it's finally gonna happen. Like Eric Roberts, you had
Speaker 3: a good line before we started. You said, there's not
Speaker 3: been a good watch all season, with maybe the exception
Speaker 3: of the Dolphins game. Even the games they win, it's
Speaker 3: always a struggle. In fact, the only game they've won
Speaker 3: in the past month was that Bucks game where they
Speaker 3: were looking like they had figured some things out and
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden needed a Chris Godwin not
Speaker 3: to see hal Mary falling right into his hands to
Speaker 3: escape with that game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, every game feels it's pulling teeth, like nothing seems
Speaker 5: that the bolts aren't tight enough. I mean even today
Speaker 5: at first, you know, the handoff to Cook, it just
Speaker 5: Josh kind of just dropped it out of his chest,
Speaker 5: you know. Then Joe Buck Troy aikmanner like, hey man,
Speaker 5: they want the coin toss. They want to set the
Speaker 5: tone like the Bengals did against them last week. First
Speaker 5: play the game, James Cook fumble like, it's just there's something, man,
Speaker 5: There's just something. I don't know what it is. And
Speaker 5: Ken Dorsey might be the scapegoat. I don't know if
Speaker 5: Sean mcdermot's gonna be the guy, because you know, I
Speaker 5: don't know's it's.
Speaker 4: It's pulling teeth with this team right now.
Speaker 5: Even the wins outside of maybe yeah, like you said,
Speaker 5: the Dolphins game is good. They kind of slacked the
Speaker 5: Raiders back a couple of weeks ago. But it's there's
Speaker 5: something's wrong, man, I don't know what it is. Stefan
Speaker 5: Diggs usually gets his today, maybe like three or four catches.
Speaker 4: It's tough.
Speaker 3: I have no confidence in my team the Jets because
Speaker 3: of the offense, but that Sala has he has a
Speaker 3: beat on that bills offense that's already vulnerable. That game,
Speaker 3: that game could be a real slog like this as well,
Speaker 3: Like I would not be surprised if that is a
Speaker 3: game they're struggling to take care of business and like
Speaker 3: they are in a lot of trouble. Yeah.
Speaker 5: No, you mentioned the schedule coming up, and we talked
Speaker 5: a little bit before we started recording, and you go
Speaker 5: into you see the schedule, You're like, okay, You're you're
Speaker 5: looking it up, like, hey, here comes the murders row.
Speaker 5: Like you said, you got Philly, you got Casey, you
Speaker 5: got Dallas, you got the Chargers. I was gonna I'm
Speaker 5: going to that game hopefully hmm. It might be a
Speaker 5: bad night for me. But it's like you're going in
Speaker 5: that stretch and yeah, like you said, the Jets always
Speaker 5: give him trouble. I mean that first game of the season,
Speaker 5: weird little outlier. They still lost. But you're kind of
Speaker 5: hoping you're not five and five going into this kind
Speaker 5: of murderer's row of your wake or your schedule where
Speaker 5: you got to maybe now you're trying to steal games
Speaker 5: where you meet. You're hoping you have like a little cushion, mean,
Speaker 5: you lose one here, or you're on the road in Philly,
Speaker 5: or you're on the road in case. You're not trying
Speaker 5: to steal games against these teams. It's I don't know, man,
Speaker 5: I don't I don't like. I don't like speaking in
Speaker 5: a hyperbole. But yeah, like I said, I don't know playoffs.
Speaker 5: Something's not right, man, something's not right. And I love
Speaker 5: Josh Allen. I'm definitely a Josh Allen apologist. He does
Speaker 5: a lot for the team. He tried, he wins games
Speaker 5: for us, but do something's tough, man.
Speaker 3: He's not having a great year and he's been tough.
Speaker 3: He's been this team four more turnovers today. I mean this,
Speaker 3: And you know a lot of these games are at home.
Speaker 3: Like it's just like they're a hard team to figure out.
Speaker 3: And you know, to swing back to Denver, Greg like,
Speaker 3: you know, let's look at their schedule now, because they're
Speaker 3: a team that figure things out. And I'm giving credit
Speaker 3: to Russell Wilson. I'm gonna let's give credit. You gotta
Speaker 3: give some to Peyton too, because he got this team
Speaker 3: off the mat where it could have been a total
Speaker 3: house fire there. But I will say this, I don't
Speaker 3: I'm not in a place where I'm gonna think Denver
Speaker 3: is about to make a run. Here. They have Sunday
Speaker 3: night football against the Vikings, then they're home against Cleveland,
Speaker 3: at Houston, at Chargers, at Detroit. I don't see more
Speaker 3: than two wins there. So I don't want to take
Speaker 3: anything away from what they did tonight, But I didn't
Speaker 3: see anything about like a team that's about to make
Speaker 3: noise in the conference either.
Speaker 2: You know, they had that Dolphins game, but basically they've
Speaker 2: been in every game this season no matter who they play.
Speaker 2: Good teams are bad teams. It's like, come down to
Speaker 2: the end. They feel like that team. I think John
Speaker 2: Payton's a good game day coach. He's a good game planner.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you see their first down offense, you think they're
Speaker 2: I think they're playing on some level not to lose,
Speaker 2: which is not the worst way to play if you're
Speaker 2: good at doing that. Like the two thousand and one
Speaker 2: Patriots very much played not to lose. And you look
Speaker 2: at Russell Wilson's stats tonight and it's very typical of
Speaker 2: a season. He threw the ball twenty nine times for
Speaker 2: one hundred and ninety three yards, two touchdowns, no interceptions.
Speaker 2: He didn't have anything that was even close to an interception.
Speaker 2: He had a couple bad throws, took a couple bad sacks.
Speaker 2: Most of his night was looking for his first lead.
Speaker 2: Sometimes hit it had like one or two nice throws.
Speaker 2: For the most part, it was like find your checkdown,
Speaker 2: get six yards. His instincts have been better. He's in
Speaker 2: an offense that makes sense, and their running game is
Speaker 2: pretty good. You can win games that way if your
Speaker 2: defense is decent and creating turnovers like they are. They
Speaker 2: feel like they're gonna win as many games as they lose,
Speaker 2: and they'll get to the end of the season and
Speaker 2: they'll be eight and nine or something like that. I
Speaker 2: don't feel much different about them than I did at
Speaker 2: one in five. I really don't, other than the defense
Speaker 2: now is fine. Like you look at the bit like
Speaker 2: tonight they gave up seven point three yards per play,
Speaker 2: Like when the Bills got that ballack, did you have
Speaker 2: any doubt in your mind that they were going down
Speaker 2: to score a touchdown to go up one? Because I didn't,
Speaker 2: And I was just thinking when they got inside the
Speaker 2: ten so quickly, I almost thought, oh they got they
Speaker 2: almost got here too quickly. You know, because now you
Speaker 2: can't burn the clock anymore. They were running the ball
Speaker 2: so well. I thought, like I thought the Bills, the
Speaker 2: Broncos defense was going to like stand up in that moment.
Speaker 2: But I do give Peyton credit. There's something about him
Speaker 2: that's canny, and I think he coaches up the right things,
Speaker 2: get rid, gets rid of the right players, and they've
Speaker 2: got players off the street playing pretty well for them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this game I thought was I thought once they
Speaker 3: botched that extra point and they let the Bills go
Speaker 3: right down the field, I thought that was it, twenty
Speaker 3: two to twenty one. So they deserve credit. They found
Speaker 3: away one more time down the field, and their season has,
Speaker 3: you know, a nice night for the fan base, and
Speaker 3: they're relevant for at least another week or two.
Speaker 2: I do want to hit one last thing on the Bills,
Speaker 2: because I think what you said about that Patriots seemed
Speaker 2: not having expectations versus this Bills team is so right.
Speaker 2: And it's what I believe our friend Damashek would call
Speaker 2: the curse is supposed to and the worst place to
Speaker 2: be when you're supposed to be good is that you
Speaker 2: didn't actually win anything in the first place, because you're
Speaker 2: getting You're getting banged on both ends. They got that close,
Speaker 2: they got thirteen seconds away. I think they would have
Speaker 2: won the Super Bowl that year if they had won
Speaker 2: that game. Personally, who knows. But see, you have the
Speaker 2: pain of losing it. That's not keeping you together, and
Speaker 2: you have all these expectations, and I do really think
Speaker 2: that you see it across the board, and this is
Speaker 2: going to test Allen and McDermott specifically and Digs more,
Speaker 2: you know, in the rest of their leaders more than
Speaker 2: any situation possibly could. I thought we would learn a
Speaker 2: lot about them in the second half of this game,
Speaker 2: even being down seven going into halftime, and maybe they
Speaker 2: are just kind of showing us who they are. That's
Speaker 2: too much, it's too much for them.
Speaker 5: I hate to be I hate to be that guy. Yes,
Speaker 5: but I'm at the point where it's like, what the
Speaker 5: hell is wrong? As a fan, like something's up and
Speaker 5: I'm watching.
Speaker 2: I mean, the fans are tight, the fans are like
Speaker 2: you could they start booing, like the feel good story
Speaker 2: the builder back is so over.
Speaker 5: It's so gone, and it's like it's at the point
Speaker 5: where what the f is happening?
Speaker 4: What's going on here? You know? And you know, you
Speaker 4: got the Stephan Dick's stuff every season.
Speaker 5: You know, it's like Sean mcdermy, oh, there's something up,
Speaker 5: and then Digg's all, we're good, Josh and all were good,
Speaker 5: and he's saying, you know, what's all you guys are
Speaker 5: making a story out of nothing. And I've watched shows
Speaker 5: that have pointed out like a couple of these pre
Speaker 5: game tunnel speeches from from John Josh Allen are like,
Speaker 5: leave it here, you know, don't whatever is there, leave
Speaker 5: it here nothing, you know, play for each other, and
Speaker 5: it's like it's reading between lines because it's we're grasping
Speaker 5: a straw.
Speaker 4: It's here as fans.
Speaker 5: It's like, what is wrong And a lot of like somebody,
Speaker 5: a couple of people point out, like what are these
Speaker 5: pre tunnel speeches with Josh allensain whatever you got going
Speaker 5: on out there, leave it at the door.
Speaker 4: We're here for each other, and it's just I don't know.
Speaker 5: I'm I'm I'm I'm really here as a fan, dude.
Speaker 3: Like I what you said is very true, Greg about
Speaker 3: the curse is supposed to be And I know exactly
Speaker 3: where you are, Eric, and I apologize that sometimes I
Speaker 3: go back here but it's it's a sport that I understand,
Speaker 3: and there are parallels that what the Bill, where the
Speaker 3: Bills are at right now is as a Yankee fan,
Speaker 3: where I was five years ago when they were the
Speaker 3: baby Bombers and Aaron Judge came up and they nearly
Speaker 3: they took the Astros to seven games. It was when
Speaker 3: the Astros cheated and the Astros win that World Series.
Speaker 3: And then this window was opened up, and this idea like,
Speaker 3: this is their window that's going to be the next
Speaker 3: big run. And then they fell short, and then they
Speaker 3: fell short, and then they fell short, and then quietly
Speaker 3: the roster was starting to have cracks and decay as
Speaker 3: well well. And then by about five years into this
Speaker 3: quote unquote window, not only do you realize you still
Speaker 3: haven't won anything yet. Wait, we're not as good as
Speaker 3: we were when this window first opened up. And I
Speaker 3: think that's now this like cold reality. I'm a Bill
Speaker 3: and need to do work.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: I'm on both sides of that, Dan, I got both.
Speaker 5: I got the football and the baseball. So they beat
Speaker 5: us when they beat you guys. Now, I watching I'm
Speaker 5: watching Corey seeger Win MVPs for the Rangers.
Speaker 3: Well, there you go, Alicia got you have, you have
Speaker 3: your Rangers.
Speaker 4: That's tough, man. I can't win anywhere.
Speaker 3: So, oh you're a Dodgers fan. That's right. I'm sorry, buddy,
Speaker 3: Jesus Christ.
Speaker 4: I'm a big loser.
Speaker 3: Hey, hang in there, buddy, you're still very handsome and
Speaker 3: you got two thumbs mostly. All right, let's take a
Speaker 3: break and then uh we'll do some news. All right,
Speaker 3: we are back. It's a therapy session on a Monday
Speaker 3: night as Western New York and and Erica Roberts's corner
Speaker 3: of Los Angeles is just under siege as the Bills.
Speaker 3: The Bills start to fade away. I don't know. I'm
Speaker 3: still kind of in shock that they did not find
Speaker 3: a way in this game. But let's see what else
Speaker 3: is going on in the NFL right now. Let's start
Speaker 3: here in Los Angeles, where Matthew Stafford is ready to
Speaker 3: return to action. He's expected to play in Week eleven,
Speaker 3: with the recently signed Carson Wentz likely backing him up.
Speaker 3: That's kind of just a funny tandem for some reason,
Speaker 3: Stafford and Wentz. Here is Rams head coach Sean McVay
Speaker 3: on the QB situation.
Speaker 6: Now, Matthews should be ready to go. He was out
Speaker 6: there taking part an individual today. It's making great progress,
Speaker 6: and so we're operating with the anticipation and expectation that
Speaker 6: he is going to be.
Speaker 2: Good to go.
Speaker 6: It'll be pushing through, but we expect him to be
Speaker 6: to be able to start and play and do his
Speaker 6: thing and lead the way.
Speaker 1: This week.
Speaker 3: What is that? I don't know. I got to get
Speaker 3: Jordan Rodrigue back on the horn. Now what do we
Speaker 3: have going on? There's a huge sign in Sean mcvay's
Speaker 3: office in the colors and font of the rams that
Speaker 3: reads in all caps, urgent enjoyment. What is that? Can
Speaker 3: we get a screen grab of that?
Speaker 2: That's what led to him becoming a data week ago.
Speaker 2: A little exurgent enjoyment.
Speaker 3: That's what I think of same.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna enjoy seeing Matthew Stafford back. I
Speaker 2: wanted to get this into the show. Is it is
Speaker 2: newsworthy because they're they're more or less out of the
Speaker 2: race unless they can go on a surprising run. They
Speaker 2: got the Seahawks and the Cardinals the next two weeks,
Speaker 2: two teams they generally play well against, including Week one
Speaker 2: when they they trounced the Seahawks, so you never know.
Speaker 2: They're not a crazy team to go on a little
Speaker 2: run here, But we never hit Carson Wentz signing with
Speaker 2: this team, and it is it is something crazy that
Speaker 2: the two guys I was thinking of West because team.
Speaker 2: Those were the two biggest stories in the NFL. If
Speaker 2: you go back to our podcast the twenty seventeen season,
Speaker 2: I bet we spent more time talking about Sean McVay
Speaker 2: in his first season as coach and the revolutionary way
Speaker 2: he was calling the plays into golf, you know, with
Speaker 2: the before the fifteen seconds kind of telling him what
Speaker 2: to do right before that. And Wes we were fascinated
Speaker 2: by They were a fascinating team. And also Carson Wentz
Speaker 2: in his second year, not coming out of nowhere, but
Speaker 2: having an MVP campaign run that no one really saw
Speaker 2: coming before that. That injury cut it short. And here
Speaker 2: we are six years later, and if they had just
Speaker 2: had Carson Wentz, you know, on their roster a few
Speaker 2: weeks ago and maybe an offseason to get him ready,
Speaker 2: I think they had maybe beat the Packers, had a
Speaker 2: much better chance.
Speaker 3: Man Wentz has been kind of trash for a couple
Speaker 3: of years.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, if they had any normal backup quarterback,
Speaker 2: they could have beat the Packers. But it's just crazy
Speaker 2: that they're all together. And I'm still glad that Carson
Speaker 2: Wentz is not played this week, that we're getting Mattie staff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it does feel because Stafford is you know,
Speaker 3: he battles the injury bug at the stage of his career.
Speaker 3: I do believe we should be in line for a
Speaker 3: couple of late December, perhaps early January. Carson Wentz starts
Speaker 3: here in Los Angeles, so plenty of tickets at SOFI Stadium.
Speaker 3: Let's get in there and check them out and have
Speaker 3: some urgent enjoyment of our own. What is that.
Speaker 2: That must have been there all year? I would not
Speaker 2: I don't want Carson went I want to go to
Speaker 2: that Thursday night game against the Saints. So I do
Speaker 2: not want Carson Wentz. But I'm telling you, I like
Speaker 2: the these teams need to be criticized like a little
Speaker 2: bit more for how they've handled these backup quarterback situations.
Speaker 2: The fact that the Rams just decided, you know, they
Speaker 2: got into the middle of the season and they sold
Speaker 2: the rest of their team down the river.
Speaker 3: Get to start right don't get me started on that
Speaker 3: that situation.
Speaker 2: Just like you totally could have just had a normal
Speaker 2: backup quarterback for like a million dollars in it would
Speaker 2: have been fine, Like Carson Wentz would have been fine
Speaker 2: this whole time.
Speaker 3: Doesn't Urgent Enjoyment sound like a collective soul album that
Speaker 3: came out in twenty seventeen and nobody even knew it existed.
Speaker 2: Maybe Soul Asylum.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe it's weird. It's weird how you stress those words,
Speaker 3: Soul Asylum.
Speaker 2: Sol Asylum. Just saw Dave Perner on stage at the
Speaker 2: Liz Fair, Eggs Al and Guyville show.
Speaker 3: How about that she brought out Perner? Wow, that's interesting.
Speaker 3: Bob and I watch went to a Soul Asylum concert
Speaker 3: about seven years ago at the at the Troubadour, and
Speaker 3: I kept on looking around to see if maybe win
Speaker 3: On a Ryder would be there. Perner's ex how Dave Perner,
Speaker 3: the man literally looked and almost certainly smelled like a
Speaker 3: homeless person was locking down nineteen ninety two win on
Speaker 3: a Ryder at all time? Zeus her favorite. I'll never
Speaker 3: I'll never quite have a handle on that one, all right.
Speaker 3: In other news, the Saints are dealing with quote unquote
Speaker 3: fairly significant injuries to both wide receiver Michael Thomas and
Speaker 3: cornerback Marshaun Lattimore. These are this according to Pro Football Talk,
Speaker 3: these are injuries that are not expected to end the
Speaker 3: seasons of the respective players, but it's going to cost
Speaker 3: them potentially multiple weeks. A better news for Derek Carr.
Speaker 3: He avoided a serious right shoulder injury that was confirmed
Speaker 3: by Dennis Allen on Monday. He said the shoulder checked
Speaker 3: out fine. They have a bye this week, so the
Speaker 3: car is a tough son of a gun. I would
Speaker 3: imagine you're going to see him out there when they
Speaker 3: come back for their Week twelve matchup with the Falcons,
Speaker 3: but don't expect to see Latimore and Thomas.
Speaker 2: The Saints fans were enjoying the Jamis experience more than
Speaker 2: I expected, considering it ended with two interceptions, and they
Speaker 2: seem about done with Carr. I don't necessarily think Cars
Speaker 2: a problem. He's not necessarily the solution there either, But
Speaker 2: Dennis Allen did make it clear Derek Carr is absolutely
Speaker 2: or starting quarterback. He will absolutely be starting, and losing
Speaker 2: Lattimore is big. This has been one of the healthiest
Speaker 2: teams in the league. It's one of the reasons why
Speaker 2: I think Dennis Allen has kind of avoided national attention
Speaker 2: for the poor job he's doing because they have the
Speaker 2: easiest schedule in the league. Literally the rest of the way,
Speaker 2: it's the thirty second hardest schedule. It is the easiest
Speaker 2: schedule the rest of the way. They've had a pretty
Speaker 2: easy schedule to begin with. I don't think they're a
Speaker 2: well coached team, and there's just there's something there. They
Speaker 2: got to be careful or else things could get sideways.
Speaker 3: They also, by the way, added Jason Pierre Paul, the
Speaker 3: veteran pass rusher, to their building, so we'll see if
Speaker 3: he gets any level of run in their defense. We've
Speaker 3: talked about what my words specifically meant for CD Lamb
Speaker 3: and his twenty twenty three outlook. He was having a
Speaker 3: productive but not flashy season for the Cowboys, but in
Speaker 3: the last three weeks he's been completely unstoppable. He's had
Speaker 3: three straight games of at least one hundred and fifty yards,
Speaker 3: eleven for one point fifty and two touches in a
Speaker 3: wipeout of the Giants on Sunday, and he is feeling
Speaker 3: himself right now. He told the Cowboys website in an
Speaker 3: article posted Monday, that quote, I'm the top receiver in
Speaker 3: this game. There's no question about it. If there is,
Speaker 3: i'll see you again next week. And I don't know
Speaker 3: if I agree with that, because I think Justin Jefferson
Speaker 3: is the best. But I have always thought Ceedee Lamb
Speaker 3: had the potential to be this level of a game breaker,
Speaker 3: and he's on my short list. I would probably put
Speaker 3: him in my top three, if not top five, wide receivers,
Speaker 3: and he is certainly showing that right now. And Greg,
Speaker 3: for a guy that primarily, as you pointed out a
Speaker 3: couple days ago, plays the slot, it's kind of unusual
Speaker 3: to have somebody that's like electric at this level of
Speaker 3: playing the way he does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he could do it all. He can make
Speaker 2: those tough contested catches, he can just cream people after
Speaker 2: the catch, and he can't play outside and make he
Speaker 2: can run all the routes. It's crazy because I wanted
Speaker 2: to throw this out there just because you're mister ced Lamb,
Speaker 2: but also because like, all right, let's at least think
Speaker 2: about this, like where he would stand Justin Jefferson's hurt
Speaker 2: if Justin Jefferson's healthy. Yes, but I'm going to say,
Speaker 2: like right now, this season, so Justin Jefferson's kind of
Speaker 2: taking himself out of the mix. So's DeVante Adams because
Speaker 2: the team he's on, and who knows, maybe he's getting
Speaker 2: a little older. So I do the math and it's
Speaker 2: kind of like Tyreek Hill I think for this season
Speaker 2: would maybe have the belt. AJ Brown would be right there,
Speaker 2: and Ceedee Lamb would would probably be next. And if
Speaker 2: I was starting the team, just like for the next
Speaker 2: five years, out of those three, I don't know, take
Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb like just because he feels a little more
Speaker 2: scheme independent that you could put him in any situation.
Speaker 2: AJ Brown is an absolute dog. So for this season
Speaker 2: I'm given I'm giving Ceedee Lamb the bronze. But the
Speaker 2: fact that that's even true, I had to think about it.
Speaker 2: I was like, that's that's pretty impressive.
Speaker 3: I think DeVante is trapped in a terrible situation. I
Speaker 3: still think he's probably at the top or near the
Speaker 3: top of his powers. Jefferson is my number one. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'd probably slot him in maybe right there at three,
Speaker 3: with Tyreek behind him, and then I'd put either Jamar
Speaker 3: Chase or Stefan Diggs at five, that would be those
Speaker 3: would be my top five. And you know cheese, I
Speaker 3: mean Cooper Cup That's what I mean. I mean, that's
Speaker 3: it's hard. But he's a little bit older.
Speaker 2: I think CD you just watch him. I just think
Speaker 2: he hasn't been thought of as that talented because it's
Speaker 2: been a slow building. Like he is that talented. He
Speaker 2: you can make arguments for any of those guys, but
Speaker 2: he's right there in terms of his skill set. He's awesome.
Speaker 3: And if you want an idea of his skill set, yeah,
Speaker 3: watch that. There's really no reason otherwise to watch that
Speaker 3: Cowboys Giants game because it was as basically varsity v JV.
Speaker 3: But he had two touchdowns, one on a design running
Speaker 3: play where he just beat everybody the edge and scored easily,
Speaker 3: had the touchdown, and just like with him lately on
Speaker 3: this run he's on. It's just a collection of thirty
Speaker 3: four yard receptions like that just are setting up that
Speaker 3: team for success. The Patriots, moving on, do not have
Speaker 3: a wide receiver that we could add to that conversation,
Speaker 3: and really have not since Randy Moss.
Speaker 2: Well, you don't like Pop Douglas I think he had
Speaker 2: like seventy five yards.
Speaker 3: They took a chance on Jack Jones in the draft
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, a high level impact player
Speaker 3: for college that had in college, who had some off
Speaker 3: the field issues. He's turned out to be. It appears
Speaker 3: a bit of a knucklehead as a professional as well.
Speaker 3: And mix that with all the dysfunction and the Patriots
Speaker 3: these days, and this was not a marriage made to last.
Speaker 3: And he is indeed waived by the Patriots. He played
Speaker 3: just ten snaps in their loss to the Cults, and
Speaker 3: his snaps had been declining week by week by week
Speaker 3: with various drama around him, and it's just yet another
Speaker 3: story of darkness in a fairly bleak season in New England.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he played so well to start last season. I'm
Speaker 2: trying to look at the PFF numbers. He looked like
Speaker 2: an absolute steal that they might be building their team around.
Speaker 2: For a little while. He was ranked, according to PFF
Speaker 2: as a top twenty cornerback in their grades for people
Speaker 2: that had at least four hundred snaps. He was sixteenth,
Speaker 2: And I could buy that because he couldn't really tackle,
Speaker 2: but he covered so well, and it's just emblematic of
Speaker 2: what's going on with this season. Jac Jackson was left home.
Speaker 2: Trent Brown missed practice last week. He was injured, but
Speaker 2: there was also a personal matter, which was also the
Speaker 2: way that they described j. C. Jackson and Jack Jones
Speaker 2: were having issues. So considering Trent Brown's history, and he's
Speaker 2: a good player, he's one of the better left tackles
Speaker 2: in the league, I think still when he's on the field,
Speaker 2: that's got my attention. There's just like a lot going
Speaker 2: on here, like of what happens to bad teams and
Speaker 2: bad organizations, and then now it's just the Patriots that's
Speaker 2: that bad organization.
Speaker 3: It's crazy, Yeah, it's it's it really is. And finally
Speaker 3: the Panthers and I just feel for Frank Reich. I mean,
Speaker 3: is there a guy that you know he just needs
Speaker 3: to be released from a very dark situation. And I
Speaker 3: think he'll be a happier person for it come January,
Speaker 3: because it's all it all seems to be coming to
Speaker 3: a head for the Panthers.
Speaker 2: A one and done.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I guess, yeah, I guess maybe you
Speaker 3: think he gets two years, but this has been bad.
Speaker 3: But there's also when you do things like give up
Speaker 3: play calling duties to your offensive coordinator Thomas Brown, I
Speaker 3: believe three weeks ago. And then you know, after they
Speaker 3: got there their win over the Texans. We played it
Speaker 3: on the show, the emotional speech he gave and gave
Speaker 3: the game ball to Brown. But the offense is Createred
Speaker 3: has actually been worse with Brown calling plays, and now
Speaker 3: there is open discussion and Reich acknowledge to the team's
Speaker 3: website that he's just really quote thinking the whole thing
Speaker 3: through about taking back play calling. This kind of I'm
Speaker 3: sniffing this one out a little bit, Greg that Brown
Speaker 3: is struggling with the job and there's some grumbles maybe
Speaker 3: in the locker room about the job he's doing, and
Speaker 3: Reich is might it might be less about him deciding
Speaker 3: that he needs to step in for Brown and the
Speaker 3: team is unhappy with the direction. That's just a theory
Speaker 3: of mine. But him taking back over his play caller
Speaker 3: just as another sign that they don't know what they're
Speaker 3: doing or what they're trying to do or and I
Speaker 3: would imagine ownership doesn't love the look either.
Speaker 2: It's all felt like madlane potentially from ownership, because that's
Speaker 2: been consistent with this ownership group and to put a
Speaker 2: better spin on it. It might be the idea that
Speaker 2: you need to make Bryce Young look better over the
Speaker 2: next eight games, or you know, that's it. And if
Speaker 2: I'm going to go down and I'm Frank Reich and
Speaker 2: this is my last bite at the Apple, I'm going
Speaker 2: to go down doing it my way, calling my plays,
Speaker 2: doing whatever I can, and not handing it off because
Speaker 2: I don't I might not have much time here when
Speaker 2: they're doing split screens, Dan, I saw this one in
Speaker 2: Carolina of Bryce Young's first nine games and Jimmy Classon's
Speaker 2: first nine games, and they're like, can you choose which
Speaker 2: one is which?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: No, ab Test, They're basically the same. And it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I've been the one saying Bryce Young's a little better
Speaker 2: than people have been given them credit for. In the
Speaker 2: last two games, he's taken big steps back, and that's worrisome.
Speaker 2: And that's why. Look, a guy like Frank Raik wants
Speaker 2: at least takes some control.
Speaker 3: And it's you know, and I've always kind of pushed
Speaker 3: back when you've and this has typically been privately, but
Speaker 3: you've always been like, man, I missed that. Jerry Richardson
Speaker 3: and I'm always like, why would you say that, Greg,
Speaker 3: But I think what you're saying is is that the
Speaker 3: new ownership, it just feels like things haven't gotten better,
Speaker 3: and the meddling of an owner is never something that
Speaker 3: typically leads to success. So yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 3: give you the w on that one.
Speaker 2: Not what I said, never said that. You can go
Speaker 2: back and listen to our Jerry Richardson conversations. Actually have
Speaker 2: no idea what we said back then, what we were
Speaker 2: allowed to say.
Speaker 3: But you've softened on the old man.
Speaker 2: And not a man that left in a blaze of glory,
Speaker 2: but did always have that bragging right that I believe
Speaker 2: he was and I guess still is the only former
Speaker 2: player ever to own an NFL team, So that's that's something.
Speaker 3: Also, I think the only former NFL player to turn
Speaker 3: into an owner and then have his statue melted down.
Speaker 2: That's right. They took down the statue and they had
Speaker 2: to they.
Speaker 3: Had to turn his statue into liquid magma.
Speaker 2: There's a good job. It's a good job taking down
Speaker 2: that statue. Lot of stats.
Speaker 3: Well that's what you said initially, but you know now
Speaker 3: you're like, put the statue back up. He has a
Speaker 3: place in history.
Speaker 2: Believe me, there were there were like some I believe
Speaker 2: within a strange corner of Panthers Phantom. But we're really
Speaker 2: down a weird ride here.
Speaker 3: That was like a kind of a crusade you've been
Speaker 3: on in general, like put back all the statues into
Speaker 3: the South, put them all back. Great, Calm down, you've
Speaker 3: done it.
Speaker 2: You've made me feel uncomfortable with your untruth.
Speaker 3: How much further can I take this? Before Greg says, hey,
Speaker 3: can we take that out of the show. I think
Speaker 3: there's one more joke that, like the third the rule
Speaker 3: of three is here that that Eric is scrubbing. But
Speaker 3: I don't want Eric to scrub because Eric is scrubbing
Speaker 3: the filth of the twenty twenty three bills off himself
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's tough. We're tough on We're tough
Speaker 2: on you, Eric, you know, in a way that we
Speaker 2: probably wouldn't with with our own teams.
Speaker 5: In such a I got a pretty good loofah in
Speaker 5: the in the tub, so I can I can handle it?
Speaker 3: You know what, Eric lights some candles, get the bubble
Speaker 3: bath out and just sink into it. And because you
Speaker 3: deserve it, and get a glass of pino grigio.
Speaker 5: I always kind of joke in these primetime games, like
Speaker 5: Buffalo going to Buffalo, Like as a kid growing up,
Speaker 5: it's like they went all those years without a primetime game,
Speaker 5: and like one of my first like memories is the
Speaker 5: lateral pass and Tennessee was there. Oh yeah, you know,
Speaker 5: And and then they had the Monday Night game against
Speaker 5: Tony Romo.
Speaker 4: He threw like five picks. They still lost.
Speaker 5: I was out of Nathan Peterman game where he threw
Speaker 5: five interceptions.
Speaker 4: It's just, you know, it comes down with those things.
Speaker 5: It's just like you get hard and you get a
Speaker 5: callous when it comes to Bills and just watching them.
Speaker 5: But these primetime games, they just always kind of the
Speaker 5: way they.
Speaker 2: Need to get them out of primetime. They've been living
Speaker 2: in primetime. They just did the tour, They did TNF,
Speaker 2: SNF and Monday Night Football in a row, and they
Speaker 2: need a break. I think everyone needs a break from
Speaker 2: the Bills. They need a break from themselves.
Speaker 3: They need to go play some quiet, you know, one
Speaker 3: PM window games and just get there.
Speaker 4: I think your next couple.
Speaker 5: I think the next couple because I watched most of
Speaker 5: them with my family before I come in and work
Speaker 5: and do the stuff for ATM. You know, the ten
Speaker 5: am Pacific time games, so I get a nice little
Speaker 5: like window watch with my mom comeing to work.
Speaker 4: I think the next couple are one pm Pacific time.
Speaker 2: They're all yeah, they are all four to twenty five
Speaker 2: national games. And this is the curse of being good.
Speaker 2: You don't get to have a buried game until you
Speaker 2: play the Patriots.
Speaker 5: Randy's my neighbors, so he was over here watching with me,
Speaker 5: and I kind of ran through like a QB a
Speaker 5: QB rundown. What I've remember the like the chat was
Speaker 5: a chat tool EJ Manual, JP loss min Era.
Speaker 4: You know, it's just like.
Speaker 3: There were years where you were playing sixteen one pm
Speaker 3: Sunday Windows.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, nobody you'd lose. You'd lose, and nobody would
Speaker 4: Nobody would know today when Josh through the interception, actually,
Speaker 4: when James Cook had that weird fumble that bounced backed
Speaker 4: into his hand, somehow miraculously.
Speaker 2: He dribbled it down the floor. I mean he ran
Speaker 2: incredibly except for the two times he fumbled.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, And that's what that was. One things like
Speaker 5: why are we throwing the ball like James Cook. Outside
Speaker 5: of you know, the dumb fumble and the fumble he
Speaker 5: got back into his his belly somehow maracuously. He was
Speaker 5: actually doing pretty well. But you know, it's like throughout
Speaker 5: the course of this game, I would look down on
Speaker 5: my phone, it's like twenty four text messages, group messages,
Speaker 5: just ripping me apart, and it's like, guys, this is.
Speaker 4: Not new to me at all in any way in any.
Speaker 5: Capacity, Like this is buffalo, Like we find ways to
Speaker 5: you know, my dad lived through the four Super Bowls.
Speaker 5: I was a wee l at that time, so thankfully
Speaker 5: I don't have to do that stuff. But I was
Speaker 5: talking to mom tonight We're watching this game right here
Speaker 5: on my couch, and like she's like, yeah, we stopped
Speaker 5: doing super parties after the second one. It's it's just like,
Speaker 5: you know, it's gonna happen.
Speaker 4: I don't know. It's being a cute though.
Speaker 2: That Randy was over on the couch.
Speaker 3: I love well. I was going to say, I think
Speaker 3: that might be the thing that you know is barrier
Speaker 3: that listeners will be tickled by that that Eric and
Speaker 3: Big Funk, they they are neighbors. In addition to those colleagues.
Speaker 5: He's probably like, I can see his front door from
Speaker 5: right where I'm sitting, and it's probably about you know what,
Speaker 5: was I like maybe twenty five twenty five yards from
Speaker 5: my window to his front door. So we're homies.
Speaker 3: This movie. This movie might be kind of before your time,
Speaker 3: but I'm getting vibes of office space where Peter Gibbons
Speaker 3: had his neighbor Lawrence, and they could just hear each
Speaker 3: other through the walls. Yeah, and you know there was
Speaker 3: a there's just a connection that comes to you through that. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well we worked we worked together in morning radio for
Speaker 5: the NFL. Yeah, he actually moved to the NFL before me,
Speaker 5: kind of hooked me up in the NFL job interview section.
Speaker 4: So, yeah, we have a history. He's my friend.
Speaker 3: Good. That's nice. See it's a family show around Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3: So even when things are going bad for our football teams,
Speaker 3: there's a lot to be thankful for. And thank you
Speaker 3: to everyone for listening to the Monday edition of Around
Speaker 3: the NFL. We'll be back and by the way, we
Speaker 3: did our game rewatch on the NFL plus the Texans
Speaker 3: thrilling win their latest thrilling win, this time over the Bengals,
Speaker 3: so check that out and then we'll be back with
Speaker 3: Connie Fox and Mark Sessler on Wednesday, Heat the Call