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Speaker 3: Check this one out on YouTube. Greg. We're gonna get

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Speaker 3: to the Bills, because I think the Bills are the

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Speaker 2: I mean, insane would be another word. This was I

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Speaker 2: any situation possibly could. I thought we would learn a

434
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Speaker 2: lot about them in the second half of this game,

435
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:02,920
Speaker 2: even being down seven going into halftime, and maybe they

436
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 2: are just kind of showing us who they are. That's

437
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 2: too much, it's too much for them.

438
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Speaker 5: I hate to be I hate to be that guy. Yes,

439
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 5: but I'm at the point where it's like, what the

440
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 5: hell is wrong? As a fan, like something's up and

441
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 5: I'm watching.

442
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Speaker 2: I mean, the fans are tight, the fans are like

443
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 2: you could they start booing, like the feel good story

444
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 2: the builder back is so over.

445
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 5: It's so gone, and it's like it's at the point

446
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Speaker 5: where what the f is happening?

447
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Speaker 4: What's going on here? You know? And you know, you

448
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,120
Speaker 4: got the Stephan Dick's stuff every season.

449
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 5: You know, it's like Sean mcdermy, oh, there's something up,

450
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 5: and then Digg's all, we're good, Josh and all were good,

451
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,919
Speaker 5: and he's saying, you know, what's all you guys are

452
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 5: making a story out of nothing. And I've watched shows

453
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Speaker 5: that have pointed out like a couple of these pre

454
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Speaker 5: game tunnel speeches from from John Josh Allen are like,

455
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 5: leave it here, you know, don't whatever is there, leave

456
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 5: it here nothing, you know, play for each other, and

457
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 5: it's like it's reading between lines because it's we're grasping

458
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Speaker 5: a straw.

459
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Speaker 4: It's here as fans.

460
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,719
Speaker 5: It's like, what is wrong And a lot of like somebody,

461
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 5: a couple of people point out, like what are these

462
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 5: pre tunnel speeches with Josh allensain whatever you got going

463
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 5: on out there, leave it at the door.

464
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Speaker 4: We're here for each other, and it's just I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I'm I'm I'm I'm really here as a fan, dude.

466
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Speaker 3: Like I what you said is very true, Greg about

467
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 3: the curse is supposed to be And I know exactly

468
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 3: where you are, Eric, and I apologize that sometimes I

469
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 3: go back here but it's it's a sport that I understand,

470
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 3: and there are parallels that what the Bill, where the

471
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,360
Speaker 3: Bills are at right now is as a Yankee fan,

472
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 3: where I was five years ago when they were the

473
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 3: baby Bombers and Aaron Judge came up and they nearly

474
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 3: they took the Astros to seven games. It was when

475
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 3: the Astros cheated and the Astros win that World Series.

476
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Speaker 3: And then this window was opened up, and this idea like,

477
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Speaker 3: this is their window that's going to be the next

478
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 3: big run. And then they fell short, and then they

479
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 3: fell short, and then they fell short, and then quietly

480
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 3: the roster was starting to have cracks and decay as

481
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Speaker 3: well well. And then by about five years into this

482
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 3: quote unquote window, not only do you realize you still

483
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 3: haven't won anything yet. Wait, we're not as good as

484
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 3: we were when this window first opened up. And I

485
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 3: think that's now this like cold reality. I'm a Bill

486
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 3: and need to do work.

487
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Speaker 4: Man.

488
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Speaker 5: I'm on both sides of that, Dan, I got both.

489
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 5: I got the football and the baseball. So they beat

490
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 5: us when they beat you guys. Now, I watching I'm

491
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 5: watching Corey seeger Win MVPs for the Rangers.

492
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Speaker 3: Well, there you go, Alicia got you have, you have

493
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:29,199
Speaker 3: your Rangers.

494
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Speaker 4: That's tough, man. I can't win anywhere.

495
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 3: So, oh you're a Dodgers fan. That's right. I'm sorry, buddy,

496
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 3: Jesus Christ.

497
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 4: I'm a big loser.

498
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Speaker 3: Hey, hang in there, buddy, you're still very handsome and

499
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 3: you got two thumbs mostly. All right, let's take a

500
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Speaker 3: break and then uh we'll do some news. All right,

501
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 3: we are back. It's a therapy session on a Monday

502
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 3: night as Western New York and and Erica Roberts's corner

503
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 3: of Los Angeles is just under siege as the Bills.

504
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 3: The Bills start to fade away. I don't know. I'm

505
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 3: still kind of in shock that they did not find

506
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 3: a way in this game. But let's see what else

507
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Speaker 3: is going on in the NFL right now. Let's start

508
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 3: here in Los Angeles, where Matthew Stafford is ready to

509
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Speaker 3: return to action. He's expected to play in Week eleven,

510
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 3: with the recently signed Carson Wentz likely backing him up.

511
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 3: That's kind of just a funny tandem for some reason,

512
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Speaker 3: Stafford and Wentz. Here is Rams head coach Sean McVay

513
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Speaker 3: on the QB situation.

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Speaker 6: Now, Matthews should be ready to go. He was out

515
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 6: there taking part an individual today. It's making great progress,

516
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Speaker 6: and so we're operating with the anticipation and expectation that

517
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Speaker 6: he is going to be.

518
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Speaker 2: Good to go.

519
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 6: It'll be pushing through, but we expect him to be

520
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 6: to be able to start and play and do his

521
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Speaker 6: thing and lead the way.

522
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Speaker 1: This week.

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Speaker 3: What is that? I don't know. I got to get

524
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Speaker 3: Jordan Rodrigue back on the horn. Now what do we

525
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 3: have going on? There's a huge sign in Sean mcvay's

526
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 3: office in the colors and font of the rams that

527
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 3: reads in all caps, urgent enjoyment. What is that? Can

528
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Speaker 3: we get a screen grab of that?

529
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Speaker 2: That's what led to him becoming a data week ago.

530
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Speaker 2: A little exurgent enjoyment.

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Speaker 3: That's what I think of same.

532
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Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna enjoy seeing Matthew Stafford back. I

533
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 2: wanted to get this into the show. Is it is

534
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 2: newsworthy because they're they're more or less out of the

535
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: race unless they can go on a surprising run. They

536
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Speaker 2: got the Seahawks and the Cardinals the next two weeks,

537
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 2: two teams they generally play well against, including Week one

538
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 2: when they they trounced the Seahawks, so you never know.

539
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 2: They're not a crazy team to go on a little

540
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 2: run here, But we never hit Carson Wentz signing with

541
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Speaker 2: this team, and it is it is something crazy that

542
00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 2: the two guys I was thinking of West because team.

543
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 2: Those were the two biggest stories in the NFL. If

544
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Speaker 2: you go back to our podcast the twenty seventeen season,

545
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 2: I bet we spent more time talking about Sean McVay

546
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: in his first season as coach and the revolutionary way

547
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 2: he was calling the plays into golf, you know, with

548
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 2: the before the fifteen seconds kind of telling him what

549
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 2: to do right before that. And Wes we were fascinated

550
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 2: by They were a fascinating team. And also Carson Wentz

551
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 2: in his second year, not coming out of nowhere, but

552
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 2: having an MVP campaign run that no one really saw

553
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: coming before that. That injury cut it short. And here

554
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: we are six years later, and if they had just

555
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 2: had Carson Wentz, you know, on their roster a few

556
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 2: weeks ago and maybe an offseason to get him ready,

557
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Speaker 2: I think they had maybe beat the Packers, had a

558
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Speaker 2: much better chance.

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Speaker 3: Man Wentz has been kind of trash for a couple

560
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Speaker 3: of years.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, if they had any normal backup quarterback,

562
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Speaker 2: they could have beat the Packers. But it's just crazy

563
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 2: that they're all together. And I'm still glad that Carson

564
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 2: Wentz is not played this week, that we're getting Mattie staff.

565
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it does feel because Stafford is you know,

566
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 3: he battles the injury bug at the stage of his career.

567
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 3: I do believe we should be in line for a

568
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:16,199
Speaker 3: couple of late December, perhaps early January. Carson Wentz starts

569
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 3: here in Los Angeles, so plenty of tickets at SOFI Stadium.

570
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 3: Let's get in there and check them out and have

571
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 3: some urgent enjoyment of our own. What is that.

572
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Speaker 2: That must have been there all year? I would not

573
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Speaker 2: I don't want Carson went I want to go to

574
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Speaker 2: that Thursday night game against the Saints. So I do

575
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: not want Carson Wentz. But I'm telling you, I like

576
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 2: the these teams need to be criticized like a little

577
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 2: bit more for how they've handled these backup quarterback situations.

578
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 2: The fact that the Rams just decided, you know, they

579
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: got into the middle of the season and they sold

580
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Speaker 2: the rest of their team down the river.

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Speaker 3: Get to start right don't get me started on that

582
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 3: that situation.

583
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Speaker 2: Just like you totally could have just had a normal

584
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 2: backup quarterback for like a million dollars in it would

585
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: have been fine, Like Carson Wentz would have been fine

586
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 2: this whole time.

587
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Speaker 3: Doesn't Urgent Enjoyment sound like a collective soul album that

588
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 3: came out in twenty seventeen and nobody even knew it existed.

589
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 2: Maybe Soul Asylum.

590
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe it's weird. It's weird how you stress those words,

591
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 3: Soul Asylum.

592
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: Sol Asylum. Just saw Dave Perner on stage at the

593
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Speaker 2: Liz Fair, Eggs Al and Guyville show.

594
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 3: How about that she brought out Perner? Wow, that's interesting.

595
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 3: Bob and I watch went to a Soul Asylum concert

596
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,239
Speaker 3: about seven years ago at the at the Troubadour, and

597
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 3: I kept on looking around to see if maybe win

598
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 3: On a Ryder would be there. Perner's ex how Dave Perner,

599
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 3: the man literally looked and almost certainly smelled like a

600
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 3: homeless person was locking down nineteen ninety two win on

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Speaker 3: a Ryder at all time? Zeus her favorite. I'll never

602
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 3: I'll never quite have a handle on that one, all right.

603
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 3: In other news, the Saints are dealing with quote unquote

604
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 3: fairly significant injuries to both wide receiver Michael Thomas and

605
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 3: cornerback Marshaun Lattimore. These are this according to Pro Football Talk,

606
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 3: these are injuries that are not expected to end the

607
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 3: seasons of the respective players, but it's going to cost

608
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 3: them potentially multiple weeks. A better news for Derek Carr.

609
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 3: He avoided a serious right shoulder injury that was confirmed

610
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 3: by Dennis Allen on Monday. He said the shoulder checked

611
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,959
Speaker 3: out fine. They have a bye this week, so the

612
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 3: car is a tough son of a gun. I would

613
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Speaker 3: imagine you're going to see him out there when they

614
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 3: come back for their Week twelve matchup with the Falcons,

615
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Speaker 3: but don't expect to see Latimore and Thomas.

616
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Speaker 2: The Saints fans were enjoying the Jamis experience more than

617
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 2: I expected, considering it ended with two interceptions, and they

618
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 2: seem about done with Carr. I don't necessarily think Cars

619
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: a problem. He's not necessarily the solution there either, But

620
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: Dennis Allen did make it clear Derek Carr is absolutely

621
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 2: or starting quarterback. He will absolutely be starting, and losing

622
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: Lattimore is big. This has been one of the healthiest

623
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: teams in the league. It's one of the reasons why

624
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: I think Dennis Allen has kind of avoided national attention

625
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: for the poor job he's doing because they have the

626
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: easiest schedule in the league. Literally the rest of the way,

627
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: it's the thirty second hardest schedule. It is the easiest

628
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 2: schedule the rest of the way. They've had a pretty

629
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 2: easy schedule to begin with. I don't think they're a

630
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: well coached team, and there's just there's something there. They

631
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 2: got to be careful or else things could get sideways.

632
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 3: They also, by the way, added Jason Pierre Paul, the

633
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 3: veteran pass rusher, to their building, so we'll see if

634
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 3: he gets any level of run in their defense. We've

635
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 3: talked about what my words specifically meant for CD Lamb

636
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 3: and his twenty twenty three outlook. He was having a

637
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 3: productive but not flashy season for the Cowboys, but in

638
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 3: the last three weeks he's been completely unstoppable. He's had

639
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 3: three straight games of at least one hundred and fifty yards,

640
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 3: eleven for one point fifty and two touches in a

641
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 3: wipeout of the Giants on Sunday, and he is feeling

642
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 3: himself right now. He told the Cowboys website in an

643
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,239
Speaker 3: article posted Monday, that quote, I'm the top receiver in

644
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,719
Speaker 3: this game. There's no question about it. If there is,

645
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 3: i'll see you again next week. And I don't know

646
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 3: if I agree with that, because I think Justin Jefferson

647
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 3: is the best. But I have always thought Ceedee Lamb

648
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 3: had the potential to be this level of a game breaker,

649
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 3: and he's on my short list. I would probably put

650
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 3: him in my top three, if not top five, wide receivers,

651
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 3: and he is certainly showing that right now. And Greg,

652
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 3: for a guy that primarily, as you pointed out a

653
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 3: couple days ago, plays the slot, it's kind of unusual

654
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 3: to have somebody that's like electric at this level of

655
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 3: playing the way he does.

656
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he could do it all. He can make

657
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: those tough contested catches, he can just cream people after

658
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 2: the catch, and he can't play outside and make he

659
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: can run all the routes. It's crazy because I wanted

660
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: to throw this out there just because you're mister ced Lamb,

661
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: but also because like, all right, let's at least think

662
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 2: about this, like where he would stand Justin Jefferson's hurt

663
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: if Justin Jefferson's healthy. Yes, but I'm going to say,

664
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 2: like right now, this season, so Justin Jefferson's kind of

665
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: taking himself out of the mix. So's DeVante Adams because

666
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: the team he's on, and who knows, maybe he's getting

667
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: a little older. So I do the math and it's

668
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: kind of like Tyreek Hill I think for this season

669
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: would maybe have the belt. AJ Brown would be right there,

670
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: and Ceedee Lamb would would probably be next. And if

671
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 2: I was starting the team, just like for the next

672
00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 2: five years, out of those three, I don't know, take

673
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb like just because he feels a little more

674
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 2: scheme independent that you could put him in any situation.

675
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: AJ Brown is an absolute dog. So for this season

676
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 2: I'm given I'm giving Ceedee Lamb the bronze. But the

677
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: fact that that's even true, I had to think about it.

678
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: I was like, that's that's pretty impressive.

679
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 3: I think DeVante is trapped in a terrible situation. I

680
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 3: still think he's probably at the top or near the

681
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 3: top of his powers. Jefferson is my number one. Yeah,

682
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 3: I'd probably slot him in maybe right there at three,

683
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 3: with Tyreek behind him, and then I'd put either Jamar

684
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 3: Chase or Stefan Diggs at five, that would be those

685
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 3: would be my top five. And you know cheese, I

686
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 3: mean Cooper Cup That's what I mean. I mean, that's

687
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 3: it's hard. But he's a little bit older.

688
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 2: I think CD you just watch him. I just think

689
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 2: he hasn't been thought of as that talented because it's

690
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 2: been a slow building. Like he is that talented. He

691
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 2: you can make arguments for any of those guys, but

692
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: he's right there in terms of his skill set. He's awesome.

693
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 3: And if you want an idea of his skill set, yeah,

694
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 3: watch that. There's really no reason otherwise to watch that

695
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 3: Cowboys Giants game because it was as basically varsity v JV.

696
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 3: But he had two touchdowns, one on a design running

697
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 3: play where he just beat everybody the edge and scored easily,

698
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 3: had the touchdown, and just like with him lately on

699
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 3: this run he's on. It's just a collection of thirty

700
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 3: four yard receptions like that just are setting up that

701
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 3: team for success. The Patriots, moving on, do not have

702
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 3: a wide receiver that we could add to that conversation,

703
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 3: and really have not since Randy Moss.

704
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 2: Well, you don't like Pop Douglas I think he had

705
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: like seventy five yards.

706
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 3: They took a chance on Jack Jones in the draft

707
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, a high level impact player

708
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 3: for college that had in college, who had some off

709
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,760
Speaker 3: the field issues. He's turned out to be. It appears

710
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 3: a bit of a knucklehead as a professional as well.

711
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 3: And mix that with all the dysfunction and the Patriots

712
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 3: these days, and this was not a marriage made to last.

713
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 3: And he is indeed waived by the Patriots. He played

714
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 3: just ten snaps in their loss to the Cults, and

715
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 3: his snaps had been declining week by week by week

716
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 3: with various drama around him, and it's just yet another

717
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 3: story of darkness in a fairly bleak season in New England.

718
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, he played so well to start last season. I'm

719
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: trying to look at the PFF numbers. He looked like

720
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 2: an absolute steal that they might be building their team around.

721
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: For a little while. He was ranked, according to PFF

722
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 2: as a top twenty cornerback in their grades for people

723
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 2: that had at least four hundred snaps. He was sixteenth,

724
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: And I could buy that because he couldn't really tackle,

725
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: but he covered so well, and it's just emblematic of

726
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: what's going on with this season. Jac Jackson was left home.

727
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: Trent Brown missed practice last week. He was injured, but

728
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 2: there was also a personal matter, which was also the

729
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 2: way that they described j. C. Jackson and Jack Jones

730
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 2: were having issues. So considering Trent Brown's history, and he's

731
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 2: a good player, he's one of the better left tackles

732
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 2: in the league, I think still when he's on the field,

733
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 2: that's got my attention. There's just like a lot going

734
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: on here, like of what happens to bad teams and

735
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 2: bad organizations, and then now it's just the Patriots that's

736
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 2: that bad organization.

737
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 3: It's crazy, Yeah, it's it's it really is. And finally

738
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 3: the Panthers and I just feel for Frank Reich. I mean,

739
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 3: is there a guy that you know he just needs

740
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 3: to be released from a very dark situation. And I

741
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 3: think he'll be a happier person for it come January,

742
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 3: because it's all it all seems to be coming to

743
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 3: a head for the Panthers.

744
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 2: A one and done.

745
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 3: I don't know. I guess, yeah, I guess maybe you

746
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 3: think he gets two years, but this has been bad.

747
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 3: But there's also when you do things like give up

748
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 3: play calling duties to your offensive coordinator Thomas Brown, I

749
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 3: believe three weeks ago. And then you know, after they

750
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 3: got there their win over the Texans. We played it

751
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 3: on the show, the emotional speech he gave and gave

752
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 3: the game ball to Brown. But the offense is Createred

753
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 3: has actually been worse with Brown calling plays, and now

754
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 3: there is open discussion and Reich acknowledge to the team's

755
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 3: website that he's just really quote thinking the whole thing

756
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 3: through about taking back play calling. This kind of I'm

757
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 3: sniffing this one out a little bit, Greg that Brown

758
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 3: is struggling with the job and there's some grumbles maybe

759
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 3: in the locker room about the job he's doing, and

760
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 3: Reich is might it might be less about him deciding

761
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 3: that he needs to step in for Brown and the

762
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 3: team is unhappy with the direction. That's just a theory

763
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 3: of mine. But him taking back over his play caller

764
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 3: just as another sign that they don't know what they're

765
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: doing or what they're trying to do or and I

766
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 3: would imagine ownership doesn't love the look either.

767
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: It's all felt like madlane potentially from ownership, because that's

768
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 2: been consistent with this ownership group and to put a

769
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 2: better spin on it. It might be the idea that

770
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 2: you need to make Bryce Young look better over the

771
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: next eight games, or you know, that's it. And if

772
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 2: I'm going to go down and I'm Frank Reich and

773
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 2: this is my last bite at the Apple, I'm going

774
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 2: to go down doing it my way, calling my plays,

775
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: doing whatever I can, and not handing it off because

776
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: I don't I might not have much time here when

777
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 2: they're doing split screens, Dan, I saw this one in

778
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 2: Carolina of Bryce Young's first nine games and Jimmy Classon's

779
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: first nine games, and they're like, can you choose which

780
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 2: one is which?

781
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 3: Oh?

782
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 2: No, ab Test, They're basically the same. And it's like, Okay,

783
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 2: I've been the one saying Bryce Young's a little better

784
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 2: than people have been given them credit for. In the

785
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 2: last two games, he's taken big steps back, and that's worrisome.

786
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 2: And that's why. Look, a guy like Frank Raik wants

787
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: at least takes some control.

788
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 3: And it's you know, and I've always kind of pushed

789
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 3: back when you've and this has typically been privately, but

790
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 3: you've always been like, man, I missed that. Jerry Richardson

791
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 3: and I'm always like, why would you say that, Greg,

792
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: But I think what you're saying is is that the

793
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 3: new ownership, it just feels like things haven't gotten better,

794
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 3: and the meddling of an owner is never something that

795
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 3: typically leads to success. So yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna

796
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 3: give you the w on that one.

797
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 2: Not what I said, never said that. You can go

798
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 2: back and listen to our Jerry Richardson conversations. Actually have

799
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 2: no idea what we said back then, what we were

800
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 2: allowed to say.

801
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 3: But you've softened on the old man.

802
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 2: And not a man that left in a blaze of glory,

803
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 2: but did always have that bragging right that I believe

804
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 2: he was and I guess still is the only former

805
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 2: player ever to own an NFL team, So that's that's something.

806
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 3: Also, I think the only former NFL player to turn

807
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 3: into an owner and then have his statue melted down.

808
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,919
Speaker 2: That's right. They took down the statue and they had

809
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 2: to they.

810
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 3: Had to turn his statue into liquid magma.

811
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 2: There's a good job. It's a good job taking down

812
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 2: that statue. Lot of stats.

813
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 3: Well that's what you said initially, but you know now

814
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 3: you're like, put the statue back up. He has a

815
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 3: place in history.

816
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 2: Believe me, there were there were like some I believe

817
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 2: within a strange corner of Panthers Phantom. But we're really

818
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 2: down a weird ride here.

819
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 3: That was like a kind of a crusade you've been

820
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 3: on in general, like put back all the statues into

821
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 3: the South, put them all back. Great, Calm down, you've

822
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 3: done it.

823
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: You've made me feel uncomfortable with your untruth.

824
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 3: How much further can I take this? Before Greg says, hey,

825
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 3: can we take that out of the show. I think

826
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 3: there's one more joke that, like the third the rule

827
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 3: of three is here that that Eric is scrubbing. But

828
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 3: I don't want Eric to scrub because Eric is scrubbing

829
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 3: the filth of the twenty twenty three bills off himself

830
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 3: right now.

831
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's tough. We're tough on We're tough

832
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 2: on you, Eric, you know, in a way that we

833
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 2: probably wouldn't with with our own teams.

834
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 5: In such a I got a pretty good loofah in

835
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 5: the in the tub, so I can I can handle it?

836
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 3: You know what, Eric lights some candles, get the bubble

837
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 3: bath out and just sink into it. And because you

838
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 3: deserve it, and get a glass of pino grigio.

839
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 5: I always kind of joke in these primetime games, like

840
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 5: Buffalo going to Buffalo, Like as a kid growing up,

841
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 5: it's like they went all those years without a primetime game,

842
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 5: and like one of my first like memories is the

843
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 5: lateral pass and Tennessee was there. Oh yeah, you know,

844
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 5: And and then they had the Monday Night game against

845
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 5: Tony Romo.

846
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 4: He threw like five picks. They still lost.

847
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 5: I was out of Nathan Peterman game where he threw

848
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 5: five interceptions.

849
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 4: It's just, you know, it comes down with those things.

850
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 5: It's just like you get hard and you get a

851
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 5: callous when it comes to Bills and just watching them.

852
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 5: But these primetime games, they just always kind of the

853
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 5: way they.

854
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 2: Need to get them out of primetime. They've been living

855
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 2: in primetime. They just did the tour, They did TNF,

856
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 2: SNF and Monday Night Football in a row, and they

857
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 2: need a break. I think everyone needs a break from

858
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 2: the Bills. They need a break from themselves.

859
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 3: They need to go play some quiet, you know, one

860
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 3: PM window games and just get there.

861
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 4: I think your next couple.

862
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 5: I think the next couple because I watched most of

863
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 5: them with my family before I come in and work

864
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 5: and do the stuff for ATM. You know, the ten

865
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 5: am Pacific time games, so I get a nice little

866
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 5: like window watch with my mom comeing to work.

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Speaker 4: I think the next couple are one pm Pacific time.

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Speaker 2: They're all yeah, they are all four to twenty five

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Speaker 2: national games. And this is the curse of being good.

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Speaker 2: You don't get to have a buried game until you

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Speaker 2: play the Patriots.

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Speaker 5: Randy's my neighbors, so he was over here watching with me,

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Speaker 5: and I kind of ran through like a QB a

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Speaker 5: QB rundown. What I've remember the like the chat was

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Speaker 5: a chat tool EJ Manual, JP loss min Era.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's just like.

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Speaker 3: There were years where you were playing sixteen one pm

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Speaker 3: Sunday Windows.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, nobody you'd lose. You'd lose, and nobody would

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Speaker 4: Nobody would know today when Josh through the interception, actually,

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Speaker 4: when James Cook had that weird fumble that bounced backed

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Speaker 4: into his hand, somehow miraculously.

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Speaker 2: He dribbled it down the floor. I mean he ran

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Speaker 2: incredibly except for the two times he fumbled.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, And that's what that was. One things like

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Speaker 5: why are we throwing the ball like James Cook. Outside

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Speaker 5: of you know, the dumb fumble and the fumble he

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Speaker 5: got back into his his belly somehow maracuously. He was

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Speaker 5: actually doing pretty well. But you know, it's like throughout

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Speaker 5: the course of this game, I would look down on

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Speaker 5: my phone, it's like twenty four text messages, group messages,

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00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 5: just ripping me apart, and it's like, guys, this is.

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Speaker 4: Not new to me at all in any way in any.

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Speaker 5: Capacity, Like this is buffalo, Like we find ways to

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Speaker 5: you know, my dad lived through the four Super Bowls.

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Speaker 5: I was a wee l at that time, so thankfully

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Speaker 5: I don't have to do that stuff. But I was

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Speaker 5: talking to mom tonight We're watching this game right here

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Speaker 5: on my couch, and like she's like, yeah, we stopped

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Speaker 5: doing super parties after the second one. It's it's just like,

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Speaker 5: you know, it's gonna happen.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. It's being a cute though.

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Speaker 2: That Randy was over on the couch.

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Speaker 3: I love well. I was going to say, I think

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Speaker 3: that might be the thing that you know is barrier

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Speaker 3: that listeners will be tickled by that that Eric and

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00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 3: Big Funk, they they are neighbors. In addition to those colleagues.

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Speaker 5: He's probably like, I can see his front door from

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00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 5: right where I'm sitting, and it's probably about you know what,

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Speaker 5: was I like maybe twenty five twenty five yards from

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Speaker 5: my window to his front door. So we're homies.

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Speaker 3: This movie. This movie might be kind of before your time,

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Speaker 3: but I'm getting vibes of office space where Peter Gibbons

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Speaker 3: had his neighbor Lawrence, and they could just hear each

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Speaker 3: other through the walls. Yeah, and you know there was

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Speaker 3: a there's just a connection that comes to you through that. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well we worked we worked together in morning radio for

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Speaker 5: the NFL. Yeah, he actually moved to the NFL before me,

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Speaker 5: kind of hooked me up in the NFL job interview section.

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Speaker 4: So, yeah, we have a history. He's my friend.

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Speaker 3: Good. That's nice. See it's a family show around Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 3: So even when things are going bad for our football teams,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot to be thankful for. And thank you

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Speaker 3: to everyone for listening to the Monday edition of Around

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Speaker 3: the NFL. We'll be back and by the way, we

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Speaker 3: did our game rewatch on the NFL plus the Texans

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Speaker 3: thrilling win their latest thrilling win, this time over the Bengals,

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Speaker 3: so check that out and then we'll be back with

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Speaker 3: Connie Fox and Mark Sessler on Wednesday, Heat the Call