1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Can't I am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Cobelt Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. We are on every 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: day from one until four o'clock and then after four 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: o'clock John Cobelt Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: This is really important. You should be listening to this. 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: We've had Michael miche on several times. He's a professor 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: from USC and he's coming on again along with James Rector, 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: a professor of Civil and Environmental engineering at UC Berkeley. 9 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: Rectors research focuses on oil and gas reservoir geophysics, among 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: other things. They are both coming on because we're at 11 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: a real crisis point here in California. We've told you 12 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: about this. You could look at good gas could be 13 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: eight dollars a gallon, no kidding, Because we have two 14 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: major refineries closing in the next few months, one in 15 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: the Wilmington Carson area, the other up in northern California 16 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: in the Bay Area in Benetia, and when they close, 17 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: it means we will have lost twenty one percent of 18 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: California refinery capacity for gasoline twenty one percent, and California's 19 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: crude production oil has fallen by sixty five percent in 20 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: the last twenty five years, and it keeps going down, 21 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: and this means a crisis. Newsom is trying feebly to 22 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: address it. And we're going to talk about this now 23 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: with Michael miche and from USC James Rector from UC Berkeley. Michael, welcome, 24 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: Hey John, great to be with you today, Thanks for 25 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: coming on. And Professor Rector welcome. 26 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: As well, John, Thanks for having me. 27 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: All Right, I'm going to ask questions and you guys 28 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: can decide which among you want to answer it. You 29 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: have slightly different expertise. We'll start with you. Michael. What 30 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: is Newsome? You know he's really good at feeble public 31 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: relations moves. What is he publicly trying to do to 32 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: address this oil and gas shortage? 33 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 3: Well, there's a couple of things that the governor has 34 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 3: brought forward. One, to his credit, he has acknowledged, regrettably 35 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 3: for his sake, that there's an oil and gas crisis 36 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 3: pending in California and a lot of the original research 37 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 3: that was done by many of us is relatively correct 38 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 3: in that effect. So he's brought forward this idea of 39 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 3: SB two three seven, which is adding two thousand oil 40 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 3: permits a year and thinking that's going to increase production 41 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 3: and help save the pipeline. Along with the introduction of 42 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 3: ethanol E fifteen gasoline, thinking that's going to reduce the 43 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 3: prices wholesale by at least twenty cents a gallon. So 44 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 3: Professor Rector and I have been working on this together 45 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: and come up with some really interesting results. 46 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: Well, Professor Record, what are those results give us an idea? 47 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: Well, essentially, John FB two thirty seven is kind of 48 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 2: a band aid at this point. It's not a bad thing, 49 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: but it does not address the crisis in a way 50 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 2: that's going to do anything really substitute, particularly in the 51 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: near term, and that's primarily because it's opening up Kerrent County. 52 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: Kerrent County has a lot of oil, but it's expensive 53 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: to get that oil, and with current crude oil prices 54 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: of fifty seven dollars a barrel or something like that, 55 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 2: it's just not that economic to go hog wild over there. 56 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: If the governor really wants to do something and address 57 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: this problem, he's got to open up production in areas 58 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 2: like the La Basin and it offshore in Santa Barbara. 59 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: Because it's cheaper to get the oil out of those areas. 60 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: Probably by fifty. 61 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: Well that's a lot. And yeah, and an offshare source 62 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: seems to be an area he'll never touch. 63 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: It doesn't seem so at this point. But I think 64 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: that there's a lot of new science that's coming out 65 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: or regurgitated old science that says that in some areas offshore, 66 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: it's actually a good thing to drill and produce oil, 67 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: particularly in the Sound Barber Channel because of all the 68 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 2: seap emissions which dwarf any oil spill that'll ever happen 69 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: from a pipeline, I see. 70 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: So if they pump the oil out, then they'll be 71 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: less seepage. On the worship floor, let's talk about the pipeline. 72 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: It's called the Crimson pipeline. It's the major north south 73 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: artery here in the state. And Michael, you write it's 74 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: about to collapse and most likely will close by March 75 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: thirty first, and this is because of a lack of 76 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: oil flowing through it. Can you can you explain it 77 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: so you know people listening can understand. 78 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 3: Sure, thank you, John. Pipeline And so there's two parts 79 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 3: through this pipeline. There's the front part, which is the 80 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 3: oil going in, and there's the back part, which is 81 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 3: the goal coming out, Well, you're losing a refinery up 82 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 3: north that's one of the consumers of the oil and 83 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 3: the pipeline, So that customer is going away and that 84 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 3: demand is going away, so that part of the pipeline 85 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 3: is going to collapse simultaneously. As our work is shown 86 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: in Current County, we can produce more oil as a 87 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 3: result of two thirty seven, and Jamie can walk you 88 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 3: through the numbers, but the numbers don't suggest that they 89 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 3: will save the pipeline. In other words, they're insufficient. So 90 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 3: what's happening simultaneously is on one end, there's no market 91 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 3: for the oil that's going away. On the other end, 92 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: they're not putting enough oil in the pipeline. So it's 93 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 3: just beginning the collapse, and that will be borderline catastrophic 94 00:05:58,600 --> 00:05:59,119 Speaker 3: for the state. 95 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: Is does it come to a point where the oil 96 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: industry has to shut the pipeline or it stops on 97 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: itself because of a lack of pressure, the way a 98 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: hydrant starts dribbling out water and then the firefighters can't 99 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: use it. 100 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean it's very similar in that sense. 101 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 3: So the operation of the pipeline has two components to 102 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 3: what we call it the double which is the engineering 103 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 3: and the economics. You need enough product in the pipeline 104 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 3: like a fire hydrant, to you have enough pressure to 105 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 3: move the product through the pipeline and come out the 106 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 3: other end, and there's not enough product in the pipeline 107 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 3: for that. And then correspondingly, the pipeline is run by 108 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 3: an independent operator and they make their money off the 109 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: number of barrels flowing through the pipeline, so they have 110 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 3: operating costs, and if there's not enough barrels flowing through 111 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 3: the pipeline, they operate at a loss. And that's precisely 112 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 3: what's occurring right now at Crimson. I believe they're sustaining 113 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 3: around two million dollars a month in losses and over 114 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 3: the core of time, you know, they cannot continue to 115 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 3: sustain that, so we can expect to collapse. 116 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: James Michael said, you can tell us more about the 117 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: numbers involved here. 118 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: In terms of the amount of oil going through the 119 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 2: pipeline at this point. 120 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, how much is it going to drop by? 121 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:27,239 Speaker 2: Well, if the pipeline shuts down, we're talking about fifty 122 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: sixty thousand barrels that don't reach say, the Bay area 123 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: from current County and that's a lot of that's a 124 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 2: lot of a lot of crude oil. What has to 125 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: happen then, is that that has to be made up 126 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: by other either transportation mechanisms, like you can still truck 127 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 2: the oil from on I five from Current County to 128 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 2: the remaining Bay Area refinery, so you can do that. 129 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: But you can imagine that each each oil tanker maybe 130 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 2: has two hundred and fifty barrels of capacity, and you're 131 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: talking about trucking fifty thousand barrels, So you can kind 132 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: of do the math as to how much increased trucking 133 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: that's going to be on iPod. 134 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: It's crazy. This is kind of staggering the extent of 135 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: the problem here. 136 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a big and as Jamie mentioned, now 137 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 3: if you do sixty thousand barrels to sort of put 138 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 3: that in in you know, regular terms for the rest 139 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 3: of us, that's that's a lot of gallons of gasoline. Okay, 140 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,359 Speaker 3: that is like over two million gallons of gasoline. 141 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: So the whole gasoline market is going to collapse here, 142 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: and that's why the price is going to potentially be 143 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 1: so high. 144 00:08:54,600 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 3: You know they're ahead, sorry, go okay, the price will 145 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 3: hit the hardest in northern California versus southern But you know, 146 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 3: if you lose sixty thousand barrels of day in that 147 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 3: pipeline is as Professor Rectors has suggested, that's two point 148 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: five million gallons of gasolina day or two point five 149 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 3: million gallons of oil a day not going north. 150 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: All right, hang on the line we're talking with speaking 151 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: was Michael mcchee, professor at USC and also James Rector, 152 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: professor UC Berkeley. And what we have here is a 153 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: collapse of our oil and gas industry in California because 154 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: of Gavin Newsom's absurd policies, regulations and taxes. We've got 155 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: two refineries closing in California in a matter of months, 156 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: which can lead to the main North South pipeline collapsing 157 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: by the end of March, and you're going to have 158 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: a shortage of oil being produced in the North and 159 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: shortage of gas refinery activity going on as well. I mean, 160 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: it's it's a complete mess, just a total mess. And 161 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: I want to talk about shortages when we come back. 162 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: All right, we'll continue with Michael McShane James Rector. 163 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 4: Next, you're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI 164 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 4: AM six forty. 165 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: Let's continue now with Michael mcche professor at USC, James Rector, 166 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: Professor at UC Berkeley, and it's about the closing of 167 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: two O two gas refineries coming up in just a 168 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: few months, and with our oil production down to very 169 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: low levels, record low levels, we're going to have a 170 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 1: major crisis. There's so little oil in the pipeline that 171 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: by March it may just shut down. Lack of oil, 172 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: lack of pressure just isn't going to work anymore. Let's 173 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: get to Michael mcchine James Rector back on the line. 174 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: Michael Newsom seems to be cornered here. Is there anything 175 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: he can do. 176 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 3: He's got some options available to them as professor Oil, 177 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 3: and let's walk through those numbers. But there's enough bundance 178 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,599 Speaker 3: of austral oil that can be brought into the system. 179 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 3: There's also oil in Los Angeles County that can be 180 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 3: brought into the system. 181 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: All right, Michael, your your phone is your phone is malfunctioning. 182 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: So just let's make a new connection with Michael and 183 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: I'll talk to James Rector in the meantime. Uh So, 184 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: Michael is just talking about how there's there's there's oil 185 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: in the La Basin. There's oil offshore. Is that oil 186 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: easily recoverable now on short notice? 187 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great question, John Uh. In fact, some 188 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: of it is and some of it isn't. For the 189 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 2: large majority of it, we're talking to the three years, 190 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 2: and we're still going to need oil in two to 191 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 2: three years, So that's doable as far as short term 192 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 2: and the pipeline supply issues to the Bay area. There 193 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: is oil that can come online a roughly somewhere in 194 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 2: the range of twenty to fifty thousand barrels nearly immediately, 195 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 2: and that is offshore Santa Barbara in the Santa Anez Unit. 196 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 2: It's operated by a company known as Sable Offshore, and 197 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: they have been forwarded in bringing their oil to market 198 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 2: because of because of the state essentially saying that the 199 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 2: pipeline that they are going to use to bring it 200 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 2: to Baker's Field is inadequate and they are basically stopping 201 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 2: them from bringing this oil to market. Now, even that 202 00:12:55,880 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 2: oil has issues because it can't go north, there really 203 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: is no solution for going north other than trucking, importing 204 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 2: more gasoline, importing more oil, or somehow bringing oil via 205 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 2: rail from someplace like North Dakota. So he is kind 206 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: of against a wall with regards to northern California supply 207 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 2: in the near term. And the problem with importing more 208 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 2: oil is that the terminals are pretty much full right now. 209 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 2: They can't handle any more imported oil. And there are 210 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: no pipelines. This is something that people don't realize. There 211 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 2: are no pipelines that come from anywhere in the United 212 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: States to California. So either we get it via boat 213 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 2: or in state though are the only two options, or 214 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 2: by rail or truck. 215 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: How quickly can they make deals with foreign country is 216 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: to get more oil sent here, assuming there was a 217 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: place to put it. 218 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no place to put it. So the time 219 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: that it would take to get enough, get new terminals 220 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: built and new storage tanks, this crisis is months. That 221 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: would take years. 222 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: It seems like a lot of these potential solutions would 223 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: take years. So so, Michael, do people in Sacramento do 224 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: they I'm talking about the legislators here and people in 225 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: some administration, do they know in what kind of deep 226 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: do do they're in? 227 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 3: I think some of them do, But again I think 228 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 3: some of them are in denial. You'll hear, oh, the 229 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 3: market will take care of this. Well, the market will, 230 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 3: but not necessarily the way you wanted to, which you 231 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 3: know will result in increasing prices and things like that. 232 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 3: You know, I just did a quick calculation, and to 233 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 3: take care of those sixty thousand barrels of oil that 234 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 3: Jamie talked about, if if they left the pipeline to 235 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 3: truck them up there, you would have over two hundred 236 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 3: additional trucks on I five a day going up and down, 237 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 3: going up and down that freeway. So I don't think Sacramento, 238 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 3: some of the some of the legislative members in Sacramento 239 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 3: are honestly even capable of getting their head around some 240 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 3: of this, let alone coming up with a solution. 241 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: This is a political earthquake, is it not. 242 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 3: Well, you know, if you have national aspirations, you know, 243 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 3: if you have national aspirations for something like the presidency, 244 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 3: which perhaps the governor has, you know, it would be 245 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 3: very hard to go into other states saying hey, we 246 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 3: have really good clean air, but no gasoline an eight 247 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 3: or nine dollars a gallon gasoline prices and get away 248 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 3: with it. I mean, you know, you're looking at below 249 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 3: three dollars a gallon in states like Louise, Vienna, in 250 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 3: Florida and some of these others. 251 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: Could he just suddenly reverse a lot of the taxes 252 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: and a lot of the regulations tonight? Would that change things? 253 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: Or would it take too long? Is there any I 254 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: guess would that stop the refineries from closing? If he 255 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: suddenly backed off on all this regulation and all these taxes. 256 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 3: Well, the taxes would have an immediate impact. If you 257 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 3: back down the California state excise tax, which is the 258 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 3: highest in the country at around sixty one point two 259 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 3: cents a gallon, if you backed that down to the 260 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 3: national average, you take thirty cents off of that, and 261 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 3: you and you be average at that, and that would 262 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 3: have a favorable impact on the consumer. But I don't 263 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 3: think the refiners are in a position where they even 264 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 3: want to entertain staying in the state. And you can 265 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 3: base that on what we got from Ballero. Balero had 266 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 3: the state legislature, members of the CEC in the governor's office, 267 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 3: shopped the Valero refinery around and even threw as much 268 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 3: as two hundred and eighty million dollars at them to 269 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 3: stay in the state. Valero wouldn't stay in the state, 270 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 3: and no one wanted to buy the refinery. So I 271 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 3: think I think California has really created a desperate situation 272 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 3: for itself through its attitude. It's very very hostile business 273 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 3: environment for the refiners and oil producers and its own 274 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 3: legislative actions, and ultimately it's the hard work in California 275 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 3: who's going to bear that on their back? 276 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: All right, thank you for coming on, Michael Miche from 277 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: USC and James Rector, thank you for coming on from 278 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: UC Berkeley. It was good talking with you. 279 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 2: Thank you, job Hie, Thanks John. 280 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: There's a lot of good news there. We'll continue coming 281 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: up a little more of this. 282 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 283 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 4: six forty. 284 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: Ron every day one until four after four o'clock John 285 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: Cobelt Show on Demand, Next Hour, Big Hour. We got 286 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: two routes of the moist line. At three twenty and 287 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: three fifty, we're gonna have State Senator Tony Strickland on 288 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: because Proposition fifty, which gets rid of that independent redistricting 289 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: Commission that everybody voted for back in twenty ten. Well, 290 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: it's it's winning by twenty two points. According to one 291 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: pole A Berkeley IGS poll sixty to thirty eight. People 292 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: are willing to give away the independence of that Congressional 293 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: District Commission and give control over to Newsom and his cronies. Unbelievable. 294 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: They're willing to give away their own rights because they're 295 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: so overcome with hatred for Trump. Ay yea yai. That's 296 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: why we are where we are. It's why we have 297 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: gasoline that averages four to sixty two. I just looked 298 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: up you're not going to believe this. I looked up 299 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: the national prices around the country because last half hour, Boy, 300 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: you should listen to the last half hour. Do it 301 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: sometime tonight this weekend, all right, when you get sick 302 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: of all the Halloween stuff, listen to the half hour 303 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: he just did with two professors, Michael MChE from the 304 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: USC and James Rector from UC Berkeley, and they'll explain 305 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: to you how the gas could get to eight dollars 306 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: a gallon early next year because we got two refineries 307 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: closing and our one major North South pipeline may be 308 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: shut down. We have a lack of oil being produced, 309 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 1: and we have a lack of refinery capacity. Now we're 310 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: gonna lose twenty percent of the refinery capacity and we've 311 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: lost two thirds of the oil production, all right, and 312 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: Newsom is flapping around like a fish that flipped on 313 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: its back on the beach. He doesn't know what to do. 314 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 1: He doesn't have a way out of this. I mean, 315 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: I think we went through a pretty detailed the list 316 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: of well what about if Newsom did this and did that, 317 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: And it's not much you can do rescrewed, but go ahead, 318 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: give him and his buddies control over how they draw 319 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: congressional districts. That's really smart. Listen to the gas prices. 320 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: National average is three dollars and four cents. Uh, but 321 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: there are thirty four states that are selling gas for 322 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:27,959 Speaker 1: under three dollars. Thirty four states the average price is 323 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: under three dollars. That is over sixty percent of the country, 324 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: almost seventy percent. Texas gas price two fifty seven a 325 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: gallon two point fifty seven. In California it's four sixty two. 326 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: We are over two dollars more than what they sell 327 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: gas for in Texas and in Oklahoma at in Mississippi. 328 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: Add in Arkansas and in Louisiana over two dollars more. 329 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 2: Uh. 330 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: You know, it's not even democratic states, because New Jersey 331 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: is at two ninety five, Rhode Island is two ninety one, 332 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 1: Minnesota is two eighty seven. This is jess Newsome. New 333 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: York is even three ten, just a few cents above 334 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: the average. We're sitting there all by ourselves four sixty two, 335 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: entirely due to our regulations in taxes. Michael mcche we 336 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: just had on, has done many reports on this. It 337 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 1: is mind boggling that he does this, and the Democratic 338 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: legislature mind boggling. There's thirty four states below three dollars 339 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: a gallon. There's ten more below three thirty six a gallon. 340 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: So forty four states aut of fifty are below three 341 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: thirty six gallon. We're at for sixty two every day, 342 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: all day long. Many places are five bucks a gallon. 343 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: So it's coming. You don't have to be a graduate 344 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: have a graduate degree in economics to know that if 345 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: you cut the refinery capacity by twenty one percent and 346 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: the oil production is already cut by sixty five percent, 347 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: and our oil pipeline is shut down and all for what? 348 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 3: For what? 349 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: Now we're going to have to buy oil from dirty countries, 350 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:46,719 Speaker 1: countries with far less clean refinering than clean refining than 351 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: we have. It's going to be transported on ships that 352 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: are going to be belting all kinds of exhaust across 353 00:22:53,800 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: all the oceans. We might have to have trucks, tanker trucks, 354 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: hundreds of them, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of them 355 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: every day take an oil from the Bakersfield area up 356 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: to northern California. What kind of insanity is this? This 357 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: is so crazy, and Newsom is waving this little feeble 358 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: legislation he passed approving two thousand new wells each year 359 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: for the next ten years. Way too little, way too late. 360 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: Takes way too long to get the oil out of there. 361 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: And that's the expense of oil. As Michael McShane James 362 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: Rector told us, the cheaper oil is sitting right off shore. 363 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: Look the coast of Santa Barbara. Those oil wells are 364 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: already running. The oil is close to the surface. We 365 00:23:55,520 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: could get that quickly and inexpensively. Newsom won't do that. 366 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: We also have a lot of accessible oil here in 367 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: the La Basin. Let me read to you again from 368 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: the first paragraph of the research and there's a third 369 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: professor I should mention, Joseph Sylvie of UC Berkeley, He 370 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 1: and rector and Miche says California's instate oil production has 371 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: declined by approximately sixty five percent since two thousand and one. 372 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: Its dependency on foreign imports has risen seventy percent. So 373 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: this has done nothing for the atmosphere and for the climate. 374 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: Whatever we did not produce here was produced somewhere else 375 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: and was shipped here, adding even more exhaust to the atmosphere. 376 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: Incredibly stupid. Refinery capacity has fallen twenty one percent since 377 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, gasoline demand largely unchanged, and whatever they 378 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: start producing now in Kerrent County down the road not 379 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: enough to offset the statewide decline, will not stabilize our 380 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: situation here. California Globe reported this week that california self 381 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: inflicted gas side crisis is a direct threat to US 382 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: military force readiness on the West Coast. There's only seven 383 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: refineries capable of producing California compliance fuels. After these two close, 384 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: we're going to have to get oil gas from Iraq, Ecuador, Brazil, Russia, Iran, Venezuela, 385 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: all the terrorist countries, all the war modering belligerent countries. 386 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: California prices are over fifty percent higher than the US average. 387 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: We're looking eight dollars a gallon next year. I feel 388 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: like I'm in an insane asylum. 389 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 2: I really do. 390 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 1: When we come back. A little levity involving Newsom. Newsom 391 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 1: has now told another big lie that he was caught on. 392 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: He's gone on two different podcasts and said two completely 393 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: opposite things involving Charlie Kirk and his son. You have 394 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 1: to hear this to really appreciate the depth of his 395 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: pathological lieing and his narcissistic, psychopathic personality. He'll even drag 396 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: He'll even drag Charlie Kirk and Newsom's own son into 397 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: his sick mind. 398 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobbel demand from KFI. 399 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: Tony Strickland coming up after three o'clock. Right, that's three o'clock. 400 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: Prop fifty leading by twenty two points. It kills that 401 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: independent commission to redraw the congressional districts, and now the 402 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: duty goes to Newsom's buddies. He has whipped up so 403 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: much anger against Donald Trump that people can't see straight. 404 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: And they don't even know they're giving away their own 405 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: rights to have an independent commission draw the district lies. 406 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: It's just It's like a massive nervous breakdown. They trust 407 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: Newsom no matter how much he lies. This is a whopper. 408 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: This is you talk about pathological. I'm gonna play two clips. 409 00:27:52,840 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: Remember when Newsom was talking to Charlie Kirk and and 410 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: he's telling Kirk that Newsome's thirteen year old son is 411 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: a big fan and wants to meet Charlie. Let's play 412 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: cut six. 413 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 5: The worst part though, Charlie, no'll be a true story. 414 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 6: Literally last night, trying to put my son to bed, 415 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 6: He's like, no, Dad, I just what time? 416 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 5: What time is Charlie gonna be here? 417 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: What time? 418 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 5: And I'm like, dude, you're in school. Tomorrow's thirteen. 419 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 6: He's like, no, no, this morning wakes up and six up 420 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 6: and he's like I'm coming. 421 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 5: I'm like, he literally would not leave the house. Did 422 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 5: you let him take off school? 423 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 2: No? 424 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 6: He did, of course not. He's not here for a 425 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 6: good reason. But the point is the cancel school for 426 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 6: like two years once one got the point is the point, 427 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 6: which is you are making a damn dead. 428 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 5: I'm kidding, no, but I know, and I but I 429 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 5: appreciate that. 430 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 6: I mean, it's the reason you're here because I think 431 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 6: people need to understand your success, your influence, what you've 432 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 6: been up to, and the fact that you're on these 433 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 6: college campus stores. 434 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 5: And to your point, man, you just open up. 435 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 6: I mean you're like, ask me anything, anything, challenge me. 436 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: To stop here. You can stop here. You heard that 437 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: clearly right. Alex Michaelson talks to Newsom a couple of 438 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: days ago. Alex has got a new show on CNN. 439 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: It's on nine o'clock every night out here. Uh, he's 440 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: talking to news about his son being a Charlie Kirk fan. 441 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: Now hear what Newsom has to say. 442 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 7: Your son obviously a fan of Charlie Kirk. What was 443 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 7: the conversation like between you and your son? After Charlie 444 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 7: Kirk was assassinate he called me. 445 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 6: I don't know how he got a phone, but he 446 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 6: called me from school that day, really alarmed, and all 447 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 6: his friends were around the phone that wanted me to 448 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 6: us about express or understand what was going on. 449 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 5: He wanted to know if he was dead. 450 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 6: He wasn't a fan of him as much as it 451 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 6: was familiar with him. And it was very revelatory for 452 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 6: me because she stopped stop. 453 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: He said he literally did not want to go to 454 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: school because he wanted to go right, Let's play let's 455 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: play a first clip again here, Challenge me, challenge me 456 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: when of this one of the now played from the beginning. 457 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 5: The worst part though, Charlie no bes true story. 458 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 6: Literally last night, trying to put my son to bed, 459 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 6: He's like, no, Dad, I just what time? 460 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 5: What time is Charlie gonna be here? 461 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 2: What time? 462 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 5: And I'm like, dude, you're in school. Tomorrow's thirteen. 463 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 6: He's like, no, no, this morning, wakes up and sticks 464 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 6: up and he's like, I'm coming. 465 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 5: I'm like he literally would not leave the house. Did 466 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 5: you let him take off school? 467 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 2: No? 468 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 6: He did, of course not. He's not here for a 469 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 6: good reason. But the point is the cancel school for 470 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 6: like two years once. 471 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 5: The point is the point? 472 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: All right, stop stop pretty definitive, isn't it. I'm not 473 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: imagining things. I'm not having this time. Okay, sometimes there's 474 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: voices in my head. I know this time You're spot on, 475 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: all right? Restart cut seven to the beginning. Play Elex 476 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: talking to Newsome, your. 477 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 5: Son obviously a fan of Charlie Kirk. 478 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 7: What was the conversation like between you and your son 479 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 7: after Charlie Kirk was assassin. 480 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 2: He called me. 481 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 6: I don't know how he got a phone, but he 482 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 6: called me from school that day, really alarmed, and all 483 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 6: his friends were around the phone. That wanted made us 484 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 6: about the express or understand what was going on. He 485 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 6: wanted to know if he was dead. He wasn't a 486 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 6: fan of him, as much as it was familiar with him, 487 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 6: and it was very revelatory. 488 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 5: And also, his son doesn't have a phone. 489 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: He doesn't know how his son got a phone. I 490 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: don't know how he got a phone, because your phones 491 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: are hard to come by these days. I think that's 492 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: because of the whole school rule of not having phones 493 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: in school anymore. 494 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 495 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: Maybe, but of course his son has a phone. Yeah, 496 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: the governor's son has a phone. I'm sure that's the 497 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: security thing. You believe that, yeah, and thinks you do. 498 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: I believe, yes, I do. Unfortunately, he starts telling a 499 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: story about how his son, with all his friends gathered 500 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: around him, is calling Newsome because he heard that he 501 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: got shot and wanted to know if he's alive. And 502 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: as soon as Newsom tells that story suddenly stops himself. Well, 503 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: he wasn't really fan, he was just familiar with it. 504 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: What's wrong with you. I mean, he stops on a 505 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: dime and pivots and lies. Well, the most implausible, why imaginable? 506 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: Your son wouldn't be calling you if he was just 507 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: familiar with somebody. Now that that's like a mental illness, 508 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: that really is. He's got more than a couple of 509 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: screws loose in his head. But hey, trust him, and 510 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: he's getting rid of that independent commission to draw the 511 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: congressional districts. His friends are going to be doing it now. 512 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,959 Speaker 1: Of course it's all for our benefit. Just remember how 513 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: much you hate Trump. That's all he's working on here, 514 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: whipping up the anger against Trump. And by time Newsom runs, 515 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: Trump is a lame duck and he's not going to 516 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: be his competition, don't I don't really understand all this. 517 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: All right, we'll talk to State Senator Tony Strickland coming 518 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: up proposition fifty, winning by twenty two points, says this 519 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: Berkeley pul neber Mark live in the KFI twenty four 520 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: our newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to the John Cobalt 521 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: Show podcast. You can always hear the show live on 522 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: KFI Am six forty from one to four pm every 523 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: Monday through Friday, and of course anytime on demand on 524 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app.