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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is He's Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco, SAT Now. Your hosts Mickey Spagnola, Rob Phillips,

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Speaker 1: Everson Walls, and Bill Jones. It is a beautiful Tuesday

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Speaker 1: here at the Star in Frisco, Texas, the s WBC

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Speaker 1: Mortgage Studio, and it's time now for some Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: yet again, a Tuesday tradition here this off season, an

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Speaker 1: off season filled with question marks, waiting and we'll see

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Speaker 1: if there's any results. That's kind of the big thing

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Speaker 1: that we're waiting on. So plenty to talk about though,

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Speaker 1: surrounding the Cowboys and really the NFL in general. Mickey's bag, Nola, HECKM.

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Speaker 1: Harrison and Rob Phillips, I'm Kyle Yeoman's and guys, it's

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Speaker 1: the waiting game continues, It really does. Ye It seems

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Speaker 1: like we maybe going into today would have had some

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Speaker 1: questions answered. We were really excited about it over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Maybe something was gonna break, maybe something was gonna happen,

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Speaker 1: and that's not the case. Well, at least by Thursday. Right,

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Speaker 1: we thought we'd hear maybe something that maybe they had

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Speaker 1: at least yeah, that maybe they had no choice but

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Speaker 1: to tag Dak and or they may try to get

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Speaker 1: a deal done with he and or Maari this week.

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Speaker 1: That's still possible. But yeah, Mick, HECMA could be a

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Speaker 1: couple more days before we might have to go in

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Speaker 1: the weekend, watch it March madness and then get some answers.

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Speaker 1: Then let's hurry up and wait. Yeah, that's a big question.

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Speaker 1: But it seems like mutiny is afoot with this whole CBA.

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Speaker 1: You know, we extended it out to a Saturday. Our

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Speaker 1: guys not satisfied with the deal. I think I cut

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Speaker 1: down a baby tree just having to print out the

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Speaker 1: whole CBA, just to read through it to see if

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Speaker 1: it's a good deal. It's to me, it sounded like

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Speaker 1: a good deal where the players are are adamant about

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Speaker 1: making changes. We just hadn't heard what they're dissatisfied with. You, right, Mickey,

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Speaker 1: your homework assignment? You emailed it to me. I found

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Speaker 1: a nice story that had all the bullet points, like

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Speaker 1: I was a cliff notes guy in English class. Your

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Speaker 1: life He didn't want to read four thirty six pages.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand. I think I'm good. I think I'm

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Speaker 1: good on that cliff, did you read the whole thing?

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I cut down a baby tree just

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Speaker 1: I was gonna print it out and then our real life.

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Speaker 1: If I did front and back, it's still two hundred

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Speaker 1: and twenty pages. I said, no, be sitting right here

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the table about it. It's a lot,

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Speaker 1: but it's on my It's on my laptop, so you

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Speaker 1: read through it all. I know. You know what I

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Speaker 1: did do though, I got the stuff that affects the

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Speaker 1: former players absolutely, and I'm guessing those guys are sitting

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Speaker 1: there going, yeah, you better pass this. Yeah, of course.

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Speaker 1: The one the one thing I noticed, and I was

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Speaker 1: talking to Tony Cassius m yesterday when I was just

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Speaker 1: starting to read the story about it, and it said

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Speaker 1: that for guys, uh that uh, former players, that their

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Speaker 1: I if I read it right and my math is correct,

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Speaker 1: if you played ten years, that's six thousand dollars increase.

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Speaker 1: I was about to say, that's extra extra off of

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Speaker 1: what they're already making. And I looked at I looked

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Speaker 1: at Cassius, and I said, we're going You're taking me

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Speaker 1: on vacation. Absolutely so. But here's the deal. None of

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Speaker 1: these contracts, I don't think we'll get done until we

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Speaker 1: find out if there's a new CBA or not. The

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Speaker 1: agents don't want to do it, the teams don't want

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Speaker 1: They will affect how much money is in the salary

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Speaker 1: So I'm assuming if there's a new one that goes

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Speaker 1: away and now you can restructure contracts where you basically

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Speaker 1: You want to see how the salary CAP's gonna balloon

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Speaker 1: of years ago when their salary cap started to expand,

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Speaker 1: free agents taking one two three year deals, maybe not

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Speaker 1: been sort of the scuttle butt around Dak. Maybe that's

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Speaker 1: what thirty years old? Something like that. We'll have to see.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna take probably until this thing gets

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Speaker 1: the rookie salaries being four hundred and ninety seven million,

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Speaker 1: but either way, that's really good money and that's going

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Speaker 1: seventeenth game and a sevente potentially and expanded playoff fields.

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Speaker 1: So you're talking about more checks. And that's another thing

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Speaker 1: and I'm thinking now you're right, and that players don't

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Speaker 1: check is a lot different when you go to the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: The reason we're talking about this the voting moved to Saturday,

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Speaker 1: eleven fifty nine pm Eastern Time is the deadline to

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Speaker 1: vote on the CBA, and then Monday at eleven fifty

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Speaker 1: Is kind of how it ends up going Sonday, all

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Speaker 1: these things getting pushed back, And that's what I'm kind

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Speaker 1: of trying to get to here, is what is this

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Speaker 1: timeline going to be? Like it's so scrunched together. Is

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Speaker 1: Is it possible to get it done from midnight Sunday

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Speaker 1: USA Men's and Women's Basketball Championships. Across the way. There

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Speaker 1: you see Jimmy Johnson up on the big screen. He's

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a focal point of at least

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame game, which we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: Mentioned Jimmy Johnson, of course, being entribed into the Pro

449
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Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame up in Canton, Ohio and a

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Speaker 1: big reason why the Cowboys and Steelers will meet in

451
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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame game, seventh time in organizational history

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Speaker 1: that the cowboys will be in the Hall of Fame game.

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Speaker 1: They're three and three. For those of you who care

454
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Speaker 1: about those preseason win loss records, they were three and three.

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Speaker 1: They've lost the first three, they've won the last three,

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Speaker 1: and so they'll continue that tradition moving forward to April

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Speaker 1: or excuse me, August sixth is that game at Tom

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Speaker 1: Benson Hall of Fame Stadium. So for those of you,

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Speaker 1: have you both been to the Hall of Fame game prior? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know you had. Yeah. We went a couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago for Jerry's induction and that's top five moment

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Speaker 1: for me covering this team. Just the whole week around it,

463
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Speaker 1: his party, his celebration, and boy, when I saw Jimmy

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Speaker 1: getting in, I just knew, I just knew we were

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Speaker 1: going out there. It's you know, it's a it's a

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Speaker 1: great storyline. It's it's it's a man that deserves to

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Speaker 1: be in UM along with Jerry laying the foundation for,

468
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Speaker 1: to me, the best football team we've seen in the

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Speaker 1: history of the National Football League in terms of talent

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Speaker 1: and accomplishments. And it's going to be a storyline. Cowboys there.

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Speaker 1: Jones is there for Jimmy's induction. It's big. It is

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Speaker 1: public service announcement. If you've never been to the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame inductions, you need to go. It's a thing.

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Speaker 1: It's very attainable, very easy. Canton, Ohio's counting in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the country, so you can drive there. You

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Speaker 1: can fly to Cleveland, UH and it's an hour. Canton's

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Speaker 1: an hour away. You don't have to stay in Canton

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Speaker 1: because you're probably not going to find a room. UM,

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00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 1: you can stay in Cleveland and just you know, drive

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Speaker 1: back and forth and all the different activities they have

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Speaker 1: surrounding UH the induction UM. And it's an you can

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Speaker 1: get a ticket. I've never seen the place sold out

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Speaker 1: because they put seats on the on the field, on

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Speaker 1: the floor, and then the stands hold about I don't know,

485
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Speaker 1: maybe eight thousand or something like that, but they can

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Speaker 1: put us several thousand on the floor. So if you've

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Speaker 1: ever wanted to go and you thought about going, you

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Speaker 1: ought to go because it's worth it, and it's worth

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Speaker 1: going through the Hall of Fame. It's a it's a

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Speaker 1: it's a really neat experience. The bus room is so cool.

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Speaker 1: And I will say that that trip we took for

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Speaker 1: Jerry's induction, we were there in the line with the players,

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Speaker 1: they all went through it and having a conversation with

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Speaker 1: Jason Witten in the bus room as he's just doing

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Speaker 1: like we're doing, just checking out all the bus That's

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Speaker 1: pretty cool. That was pretty cool to think. Okay, and

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Speaker 1: five years after this guy's retires, he's gonna be right

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Speaker 1: there one of these days, one of these yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: and he knows it too, and so you know, that

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Speaker 1: was pretty cool too. But you know, well, we mentioned

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Speaker 1: in the first segment, the biggest thing I think is

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Speaker 1: for Mike McCarthy to get a head start with his

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Speaker 1: team practicing prior to going out there. We don't know

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Speaker 1: the schedule yet, but it's probably gonna be sometime around

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Speaker 1: I don't know, July twentieth. Mix on money. I think

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Speaker 1: the twenty first is yeah, because you can go out, arrive,

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Speaker 1: and then you basically have a day in between, and

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Speaker 1: then you can start practice like you get there on

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Speaker 1: the twenty first, you start under twenty third. And remember,

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Speaker 1: if the new CBA passes, then you got to go

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Speaker 1: five days like we're back in in mini camp, no

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Speaker 1: helmets or pads. So it's even more critical because you're

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Speaker 1: getting less on fuel work on NEWBA because you got

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Speaker 1: you got five days without pads before you can actually

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Speaker 1: put the pads on, and you got to have more

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Speaker 1: days off in less contact if the new CBA. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they're arguing about, but Rob, you know,

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Speaker 1: you don't know that they are. You don't know that

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Speaker 1: they are. Well, we've seen some of their roers and

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Speaker 1: Aaron donald Is and you know the guys that, like

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Speaker 1: I said, made their money, but the guys that are

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Speaker 1: scraping to try to make a team, they probably want

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Speaker 1: all the practices they can get. Yeah, you're right, Rob,

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Speaker 1: when you say that fifth preseason game being very important

525
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Speaker 1: and getting that time and two of days to get

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Speaker 1: this to find out the identity of this team, and

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Speaker 1: not only that, we're gonna play the Stealers this season

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Speaker 1: as well. So will it be a dress rehearsal, No,

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Speaker 1: nobody whoa no, especially with a new coaching staff too.

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Speaker 1: Now this being an eager beaver to get the state

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Speaker 1: going already. But you're right, Mick, I'm excited about the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game, you know, for me and my

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Speaker 1: family to get an opportunity to get out there and

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Speaker 1: see it for the first time. When I got thirteen

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Speaker 1: year old son had a birthday yesterday, I want to

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Speaker 1: mention that. But birthday, Yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna yeah,

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00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: a little heck, it's gonna be amazing too, to get

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Speaker 1: the opportunity and just the game that I love so much,

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00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: being able to see those guys that made the game

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00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: exactly what it is. Well. Yeah, and you also, like

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Speaker 1: I said, to all the other ceremonies that take place,

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00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: like the gold Jacket presentation, not dinner. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: what it costs, but whatever it is, it's worth going

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Speaker 1: due to see all those four guys that had been inducted,

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Speaker 1: the guys that are in the Hall of Fame to

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Speaker 1: show up and and um, you know, create a welcoming

547
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Speaker 1: line for the guy that gets his jacket and they

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Speaker 1: walk right through it. And you see all those guys, uh,

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00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: and you're close to them, so probably not going to

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00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: be able to touch them, but you're close to them.

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Speaker 1: God forbid, if we're still going, don't start. Don't know

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Speaker 1: where here. Yeah, but yeah, it's it's a really it's

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00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: a really uh, it's a really neat thing. And it's

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Speaker 1: just neat to be at the induction and see these

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Speaker 1: guys and listen to them because you know what, you

556
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: can watch it on TV and you kind of half listen,

557
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: but if you're there, you're you're you're just grabbed into

558
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: the emotion and you're hanging on every world in and uh,

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00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: it's really a neat thing. And it's a neat thing

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Speaker 1: to see all the other people, Like I'll guarantee you

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Speaker 1: you know, half the teams from ninety two, ninety three, Jimmy,

562
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: those guys, those players are going to be there. They

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Speaker 1: love him, they and they they will show up. They

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Speaker 1: show up to support their teammates. And in the past,

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Speaker 1: and they'll show up for this. I guarantee you. Nate

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Speaker 1: goes to everyone everyone that I can remember since I've

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Speaker 1: been here that's involved a guy that he's either played

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Speaker 1: for or been around, played with, and they'll be there. Well,

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Speaker 1: he loved training camp that year a little bit early,

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Speaker 1: so he could I think. I can't know. I think

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Speaker 1: he flew back to Dallas and then drove to Canton.

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Speaker 1: He likes driving drives. Side note on that, by the way,

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Speaker 1: I forgot to mention this. So it's August sixth. Is

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Speaker 1: the game, yes, yeah, correct, but the induction will be

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Speaker 1: the ninth. But they have split the inductions, like Cliff

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Speaker 1: Harris is gonna officially get in in September with the

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Speaker 1: players seniors and then yeah, I think it was the

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Speaker 1: ten seniors that got in and then Jimmy's part of

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Speaker 1: the players and the coaches that I imagine the Cowboys

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00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: would get Cliff there for yeah, I would think so,

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Speaker 1: just to be a part of the whole thing. And

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Speaker 1: so the game is going to be the Saturday Saturday,

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Speaker 1: and the induction that will be the game Thursday Thursday,

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Speaker 1: the game's Thursday induction, Saturday Saturday, and it's a much

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Speaker 1: bigger class with it being the centennial celebration of the NFL.

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Speaker 1: So I get the reasoning of splitting that up into

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Speaker 1: two because there are just so many more guys now

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Speaker 1: in past. Wonder if we'd stay. That's what I was

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Speaker 1: just about to say, because we stayed last year because

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Speaker 1: it was our last time, because it was Jerry right, right,

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Speaker 1: but also Jason Garrett would would make it a point

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Speaker 1: for the team to stay for the ceremony. Right, just

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Speaker 1: from the historical standpoint. Now, Mike McCarthy might say we

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Speaker 1: need to get back and get back to work. Might

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Speaker 1: might because we went to because Jerry had his party.

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Speaker 1: Remember Friday Friday, that's where the induction has the Saturday

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Speaker 1: and as soon as it was over, we were on

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Speaker 1: the bus heading to Cleveland. Now we flew out of

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Speaker 1: acron Uh and we flew back that night and got

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Speaker 1: home about oh No. Two, three in the morning, bright

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Speaker 1: and early four, I don't know, right and early now,

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Speaker 1: with of course this being such a big centennial celebration,

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Speaker 1: and I believe it does this cap off the one

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Speaker 1: hundred year thing or was that the Super Bowl? I

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00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: don't really know. From one hundred years celebrations over now

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Speaker 1: or what I guess it caps it off to I

607
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: guess it does either way. But with the celebration everything,

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00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: it's just also really cool first off, to be in

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Speaker 1: the heartland of football, really where it was born and

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Speaker 1: where professional football was really conceived. But with all this

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Speaker 1: being said, I mean, this is a Hall of Fame

612
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: game has been going on since nineteen sixty two, is

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Speaker 1: what the Wikipedia page says. Is this the biggest and

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Speaker 1: most polarizing matchup of teams that you've seen in the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game in terms of the Steelers in

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, two very historic franchises, possibly two of the

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Speaker 1: best dynasties that you've seen. Of course, the rivalry going

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Speaker 1: back to the early days, but it just also with

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Speaker 1: the fact of it being Mike Tomlin and the Steelers

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Speaker 1: and then a new coaching staff and the Cowboys, is

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Speaker 1: this the most notable matchup that we've seen, Because I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at some of these other ones, and they Titans

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Speaker 1: Bills back in two thousand and nine, who did Cowboys?

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Speaker 1: Kyles played Arizona a couple of years, so in twenty

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Speaker 1: seventeen they played Arizona, twenty thirteen they played Miami and

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Speaker 1: then they played Sin Sinnattie in the Bengals in twenty ten.

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Speaker 1: The answer to your question is yes, yeah, yeah, except

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Speaker 1: of the fact that they won't play anybody. No, but

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Speaker 1: just I think what Kyle Sin is yeah, just yeah.

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Speaker 1: Between these two franchises, I don't think there's any question

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Speaker 1: about it. Plus if you if you look at how

632
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: it's changed over the years, heckman, you'll find this interesting.

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Speaker 1: The first time I went to one was when me

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Speaker 1: and Joe Greene got inducted. Seriously, Yes, I what year.

635
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Speaker 1: I was working at the Times Herald a time and

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Speaker 1: they sent me there to cover the quote unquote somewhat

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Speaker 1: local guy. Yeah, because he went to North Texas. He's

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Speaker 1: from Temple. He's yeah guy and uh. And I remember

639
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: they were doing the inductions at that time on the

640
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Speaker 1: front steps of the of the museum that that original

641
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: just underneath small They put a little stage up there

642
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: and they put like seats, like folding chairs like you

643
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: would go to the VFW folding chairs like a wedding lst. Yeah,

644
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: And I remember I didn't I had never gone, so

645
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: I didn't realize it was outside. So I kind of

646
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: like dressed for the occasion, it's ninety degrees and maybe

647
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: I am sweating and it's like, this is it. So

648
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: the majority of the Steeler fans that showed up for it,

649
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 1: we're up on the hilltop behind cheering, just loud as

650
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: can be. They didn't do it in the stadium, so

651
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: it was almost like it was free. All they had

652
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: to do was get there early and find a place

653
00:34:54,840 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: to crowd in and sit or stand. That was four

654
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Speaker 1: I think it was eighty five, Yeah, eighty five, eighty

655
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Speaker 1: five or eighty six. Yeah. My family they drove from

656
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Speaker 1: from Texas all the way up to Ohio to see that.

657
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: I was. For those of you, Wow, for those of

658
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,959
Speaker 1: you who don't tell them the rest of the story, why,

659
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 1: well that's my uncle exactly. We gotta we gotta lay

660
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: that out. You're new to the talking. Everybody you are

661
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: talking about that's my claim to fame. Brother, Yeah, my

662
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: uncle's one of the best defenders to ever play. So yeah,

663
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: that's interesting. But that that's kind of cool looking back

664
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: at it, and I mean that's how much it's And

665
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: everybody talks about how hot that day was. Oh, it

666
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: was terrible, unbelievable, and you wonder why the salary cap

667
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: is going up with the new CBS because of the

668
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: money that is involved with the NFL all the way

669
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: through from Hall of Fame to games to player contracts.

670
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: It's it's continuing a skyrocket. But yeah, I was looking

671
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: at that this morning and kind of saw Steelers Cowboys

672
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: and that intrigued me initially just because of the pure

673
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: gold jacket that are involved, the history between the two

674
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: franchises and quite possibly one of the most interesting intriguing

675
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: preseason games you could potentially. I mean it doesn't you

676
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: talk about a franchise that goes back. I mean the

677
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: tape reel just I mean, it is enormous with the

678
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: amount of Super Bowls that they kept us from winning,

679
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 1: you know, So yeah, this is this is right on time.

680
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: And I think that Jimmy won one of the Super

681
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: Bowls that Jimmy won was versus the Super Bowl. No,

682
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: it was what it was Barri's year, wasn't it all right?

683
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 1: But yeah? But but yeah, kept that tradition going and

684
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: that rivalry going, And so I mean, really those two

685
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: great decades in Cowboys history. They both hate the Steelers nineties.

686
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: Do you imagine how man Listen family unions are tough guys,

687
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: and I'm a diehard Cowboy fan, so you better know it.

688
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: I'm literally the black sheep. That is, if you think

689
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: they'll put Bill Coward and Jimmy Johnson on imposing sidelines,

690
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: give them some headphones and make it look like they're

691
00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: out there coach. I would love to see that. I

692
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: think be interesting. Put them in their gold jackets and

693
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: just have a headset on. Yet again, I mean, it's

694
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: not going to happen. You don't think it would be

695
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 1: great for TV and ratings, but that ain't Yeah, McCarthy

696
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: would probably be like, no, no no, no, no, no, no no no,

697
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: this is my time. Just got hired. Like they're gonna

698
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: finish that game by Thursday night. We're gonna be at

699
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:22,919
Speaker 1: a played Flyer. Oh man, what a what a fun

700
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: time I had though, In terms of and like Rob

701
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 1: said earlier, man, it's it's huge for this coaching staff

702
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: to be able to get an extra head start and

703
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 1: an extra week to to really prepare and get things oriented.

704
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 1: I wonder how many out of the percentages of games

705
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: of over the course of the Hall of Fame game

706
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: that have seen new head coaches in the Hall of

707
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: Fame game. I'm positive. It's probably pretty small. Sounds like

708
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: a good homework, because that's good. That's a good question,

709
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: because I bet it's a lot, because you think it

710
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 1: would be a lot. I just logically, I think because

711
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: it's an opportunity for a team or two every year

712
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: to have that experience. And it's not so much the game,

713
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: but the week or two prior to just kind of

714
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: get your feet wet where wherever you're going to whole

715
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,959
Speaker 1: camp and start that process. Yeah, one of the processes.

716
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: And and I mean it was also you talk about

717
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: the kind of rumors that were arounded. I mean it

718
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: was rumored that the Cowboys could have started in La

719
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: and open that new stadium, could have gone to Las Vegas,

720
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 1: maybe open that new stadium. Looks like it still possible,

721
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: but it could be one or the other. It probably

722
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: is impossible. You're gonna plate five, you gotta still plate two. Yeah,

723
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 1: we don't know yem in the second game could be Yeah,

724
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: could be Las Vegas. And you never know. You never Canton, La,

725
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. Those are the three road games for the

726
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: Cowboys in the preseason. Well, I mean you're going back

727
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 1: to the West Coast to continue training camp and usually

728
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: they play a West Coast team out there. They played

729
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: with San Francisco the last couple of years. Yeah, it's

730
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: a it's an option, I guess, Jerry. Jerry said on

731
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: the bus the other day he'd love to open both. Well,

732
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: you got three options, right, because you can either to

733
00:38:55,200 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: the Chargers or the Rams, and then that's true. Yeah,

734
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: I didn't even think about the fact that they're sharing

735
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: that stadium too, because they used to play the game

736
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: in San Diego all the time. Also for that God

737
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: forsake and drive. Yes, how long was that? And you

738
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Speaker 1: guys take a train? Used to take a train right? No? Too,

739
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: we took the train. I don't know, five hours on

740
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: a train, yes, because the train didn't have the right

741
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: away so it had to stop and let the other

742
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: You didn't enjoy that, Mickey, Oh, it was great. It's great.

743
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: I thought we were back there in baseball with Babe Ruth.

744
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: I got a picture of myself. I got a picture

745
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 1: of myself Scott and Chris, and those two guys had

746
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 1: cigars in their mouth on the train. Oh, Scott and Chris.

747
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 1: Chris running the show back in the back as well.

748
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: He's probably laughing into years. You're passing out cigars. That's right.

749
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: So it was a yeah, Jerry was passing out cigars.

750
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: And as soon as you are passing out, you know,

751
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: my hand was out and I hadn't wanted in my mouth,

752
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: but I didn't I wasn't smoking it out. Yeah, oh man.

753
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: But Hall of Fame game August six, Tom Binson Hall

754
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Speaker 1: of Fame Stadium. Gorgeous facility, by the way, since they

755
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758
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Speaker 1: it's Friday they go on sale. So yeah, go go

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Speaker 1: stock up on it. That's gonna be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: When we come back though here on Talking Cowboys, We're

761
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Speaker 1: doing TV right now? No about that? Just once the

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Speaker 1: blitz the blitz, Yeah, I don't know when that airs

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Speaker 1: So we talked through some of the contracts earlier, and

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Speaker 1: we've pounded to death the dak A Maori saga. But

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Speaker 1: those other two names are two of the other names

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Speaker 1: that I we've kind of talked about a little bit before,

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Speaker 1: but maybe not together because one's an offensive player, one's

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00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 1: an defensive player. I want to ask you guys, who

847
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: was more likely to come back this season, and let's

848
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: say on a multi year deal, Robert Quinn or Randall

849
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: cop who is more likely to get done free agency

850
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 1: and be back in a Cowboys uniform in twenty twenty.

851
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: That's a tough one. That's tough because I think both

852
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: will be back. I don't know what the terms of

853
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: the deals would be, but I feel pretty both of

854
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: them will be back. Yeah. I mean I think Cobb

855
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: being his relationship with McCarthy, to me, I think Mike

856
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: would want him back. It makes sense, and it may

857
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: It just makes sense for both sides. Now it's an

858
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: Opportunity's good to have the head coach go to bat

859
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: for you too, and negotiation, no question, no question. Now

860
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: he has the option to test the market, you know. Yeah,

861
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,240
Speaker 1: and so does Robert Quinn. Um. But I think Quinn's

862
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: a guy we haven't talked enough about in terms of

863
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: and Mickey kind of hit on it last week. If

864
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: they don't resign him, it's the same thing as Byron Jones.

865
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: It's like, all of a sudden, this is your biggest

866
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: offseason need potentially in the draft is go find an

867
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 1: edge rusher. So I put it the same same level

868
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,919
Speaker 1: that I think they'll both be back, Okay, I would

869
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: I would say that, you know, fifty fifty the same

870
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: thing and Quinn and and obviously Cobb making the most

871
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: sense from a strategy standpoint of having coach Mike McCarthy

872
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: as his former coach, but also for Robert Quinn, just

873
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: the production. How do you replace the production of Robert

874
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 1: Quinn and the whole that void that that would leave.

875
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: And I don't believe that the Cowboys are in a

876
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: rush to try to replace that via free agency or

877
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: the draft, because you have it right here in the house. Yeah.

878
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 1: I So, to me, those two guys and Byron Jones

879
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: are important. They're all important. But we've seemed to just

880
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: given up on Byron Jones like he's not going to

881
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: be back. Well, to me, that leaves a huge void

882
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: on this team. Now, as you stated in your column

883
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: last Friday, yes on Dallas Cowboys dot com. Is that

884
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: where you're going exactly? Yeah, Now, I'm gonna take this

885
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 1: And then I and then I saw like two days

886
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: later a column and a column uh in the newspapers

887
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: that said, oh what about Byron Jones? Said I was

888
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: ahead of you. Let's let's let's take this from the

889
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: Book of Spagnola, chapter eight, verse twenty two. He's a

890
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: free agent for a reason, right, right, right, So we

891
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: can't we can't sign them all. But he can be signed. Yeah,

892
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: under the cap he can be. But the production and

893
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: everything else at the Cowboys are looking, I think that

894
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: ship is already sailed. They've already given him an opportunity

895
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,720
Speaker 1: to test the market. Well, we don't know that yet.

896
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: We're about to Well what if what if they get

897
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: Dak signed and they still have two tags? Do you

898
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: think that's going to happen? Which one the Dak getting

899
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: signed and they'll have two tags? I don't have confidence

900
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: in the two tags. I don't know. I don't don't.

901
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: I don't have confidence in either one of them, right,

902
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying if if they had the opportunity,

903
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: I would tag him. But if they don't have the opportunity,

904
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: thank you, Well, then what do you got to have

905
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 1: to see what market value is? Right? And that's true.

906
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's brought up enough. And this

907
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: is a different level of player. But Terrence Williams, nobody

908
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: thought he'd be back. A couple of years ago. He

909
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: tested the market, the market softened at wide receiver, and

910
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: he came back. From everybody's reports from up in Indianapolis,

911
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: probably talking to agents, you feel like Jones is going

912
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: to get a pretty good offer somewhere else. Now, what

913
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 1: you could do, I mean you could you could sign

914
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: all these guys if they want to come back. You

915
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: could fit them under the cap. But you're gonna be

916
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,479
Speaker 1: strapping your cap for a couple of years. So would

917
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: you be willing to do that? Because otherwise it's going

918
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: to come down really to Byron Jones or Maari Cooper?

919
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: Who do you want to How much am I going

920
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: to have to pay Byron Jones? Fifteen sixteen? No? Okay,

921
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: you think then you're to get that? I don't think so.

922
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: Those are the reported projections. Why fourteen to six? They

923
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: read spot track, But that's how the market twelve? So

924
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: well the market I looked at when I looked up

925
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 1: those guys contracts, the only guy that signed a big

926
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: contract that was fifteen million a year was this guy,

927
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: Remain Johnson. You got everything got he got, he's got props.

928
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: He got released because he's costing too much against the cap. Also,

929
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: he only played like four games last year too, So

930
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: what's the cap? Because these other corners that were playing,

931
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: no one averaged more than thirteen million a year. So

932
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: can I get him for thirteen, and if like I said,

933
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: if the if the thirty percent rule goes away, he's

934
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: not going to count thirteen million against the cap this

935
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: year when I give him a signing bonus and a

936
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: one million dollars based salary. But if you test the

937
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: market and he has a market that pays him fourteen,

938
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: we're not, well, then then you're probably not going to

939
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: go that high. Okay, then that's that's the point, mickey,

940
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 1: because we can't have them all. They're not bidding against

941
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: themselves like that exactly, and so is somebody else. And

942
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: seeing here's the hard part. Now you can say, Okay, well,

943
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: we'll just go get a guy in free agency, right. Well,

944
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 1: I looked at one projection that had top fifty free

945
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: agents any position. He was like seven and Cliff Cliff Harris,

946
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: whoa Chris Harris. He still got it. Chris Harris was

947
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: like twenty three and those were the only two, but

948
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: was in the top fifth. But it's like I said

949
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: last week, if you if Byron leaves, you'd have to

950
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,760
Speaker 1: probably cover yourself sign a veteran. Yeah, but I'm saying

951
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: the draft. Draft is the key there, right, But like

952
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: but that you're not guaranteed that either you can say

953
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: I want a corner in the draft, right, well, are

954
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: you guaranteed that that guy that you want is going

955
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: to be there when you're picked? No guaranteed. C. J.

956
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 1: Henderson is continuously going up draft boards as we speak.

957
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: All I know is top fifty. There was only two

958
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: corners listed in that particular one. But here's the other

959
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: thing though, So now I'm getting back and just getting

960
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: a guy. But you have to put a football team together.

961
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: I care how many free agents you have, and yes,

962
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: you could conceivably sign all these. Like the caps gonna

963
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: go up, So the cap goes though, that's the big thing.

964
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: It's all projections. It's like what you talked about the FI.

965
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: If this CBA gets approved, it's gonna go up, but

966
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: it'll be more how quick it's the big issue. It'll

967
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: it'll go up. It doesn't matter this year because it

968
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: may you trying to sign. But I'm saying, okay, say

969
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 1: it gets a five year deal, it gets twenty million

970
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: dollars guarantee or twenty million dollars signing bonus. Right yeah, okay,

971
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 1: so I'm going to hand him twenty million dollars tomorrow. Well,

972
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: divided by five. That's four million a year when you

973
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: when you pro rated over the life of the contract. Right,

974
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: So he's going to count four million and my one

975
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,720
Speaker 1: million dollars base salary. So he's gonna count five million

976
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: dollars this year. That's not breaking the cap. Now, I

977
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: got to worry about the next year and the next

978
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: year and the next year, right, because the base salaries

979
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 1: are going to go up significated, but the CAP's gonna

980
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 1: go up too if they get that seventeenth game. Now,

981
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: all things being equal and everybody not being able to

982
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: see things equally, you have to look at the fact

983
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 1: that the production hasn't been there for Byron Jones. All right,

984
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: we need a ballhawk, can't we say that? That's so,

985
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: who are you going to get? Mickey? There's a lot

986
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: of guys out as you just mentioned guy he's just

987
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 1: has What about this guy Chris Chris Harris had one

988
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: interception some I need somebody who is it? We're gonna

989
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: we're gonna find out who that guy I saw that

990
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: is in the top. We're going it's not always just

991
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: me Logan Logan, Ryan, Logan, Ryan. He's a free agent,

992
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:28,959
Speaker 1: you know, Cleveland, right, he had four interceptions. Nobody else

993
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,879
Speaker 1: in this big list I had that made the top

994
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: ten money of cornerbacks that are free had more than two.

995
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: So is two and zero. One's a ball hawk and

996
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: one it. I think he could be both things. I

997
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: think this team desperately needs more takeaways. Okay, so where

998
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: asolutely needs more takeaways? Where are you gonna get it?

999
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: That's verse one Winfield junior out of Minnesota. But can

1000
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: you get him? Ye? Will you? Will? You put your

1001
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: put your salary on it right now that you could

1002
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: get him seventeen if you really wanted to, But they're

1003
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 1: probably gonna try and stretch it to fit exactly you can.

1004
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: You can go up and get a guy you want.

1005
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not tied to your pick. You know

1006
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: every round. Oh, I understand that you know you can

1007
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 1: go find a guy and go get a guy, but

1008
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: you don't know, so then you don't know. You have

1009
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: to be carefully that you're not reaching just to get

1010
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 1: a position, and then that rookie's going to come in

1011
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: and be a ball was going to say, was I

1012
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: think you'll both are right? I mean, I think if

1013
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: you watch Byron, you go back and watch those games

1014
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: he is very productive and he does make plays on

1015
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: the ball. He just doesn't get interception. That goes for everybody.

1016
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: But the bet question does beg all right, for the

1017
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: mount you would pay him, what are you getting in

1018
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: terms of those game changing type plays? I think question,

1019
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 1: so you're thinking that way? Are thirty one other teams

1020
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: not looking at it that way? We'll find out that's

1021
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: he just said, because you're just assuming they can't afford him.

1022
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: But the reason you're saying I can't afford him because

1023
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: of his production, well what those other teams see, what

1024
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: he does. Those other teams don't have to fill as

1025
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: many needs as the Cowboys do in terms of the

1026
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 1: specificities of the guy. Marc, I still have a salary

1027
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: captain deal with Yeah, I have a salary cap. But

1028
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: that's my argument though, look at this list of free agency.

1029
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: If they don't resign him, they can use that money

1030
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: and try to spread out and get you something similar.

1031
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 1: Four death on this roster. Okay, I mean I think

1032
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: that maybe get you some depth. But who's starting at corner? Well,

1033
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 1: that's a question to your point that has to be answered. Yes,

1034
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: but that's also why they've got a front office over there.

1035
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 1: That knows what they're doing that we'll try to figure

1036
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,760
Speaker 1: it out. They've been shortlisted and Mike McCarthy, Mike McCarthy

1037
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: doesn't have the luxury of time with this. He's got

1038
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: to get some guys to come in and play. Okay,

1039
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: but who's he gonna get? Well, Mick, you ask that question,

1040
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: and I'm keep saying that we're going to figure out

1041
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,720
Speaker 1: who these guys are and we can't just automatically assume

1042
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: that it's gonna be Byron Jones. There's gonna be players

1043
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: in the tie up for free agency guys. Who are

1044
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: you gonna get? If it came down to Jones or Quinn?

1045
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 1: Who would you resign if you had to choose between one,

1046
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: because you know Amari and Deck aren't going anywhere, it

1047
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,919
Speaker 1: would probably be Quinn because if I get a better

1048
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: pass rush than whoever plays corner is going to be better. So,

1049
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: but can I have chicken or egg? Can I have both? No?

1050
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: He said one or the other? If you have one

1051
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 1: all the other would it be? Would want pigeon holing it? Now,

1052
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 1: you can't both, Mickey, you can't have them all. You

1053
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: can't have it both ways. Well, let's put it this

1054
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 1: way when Free AGCs got going, and if Troy Aikman

1055
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: and Emmett Smith and Michael Irvin were up, would you

1056
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: have said I can only have one of them. No,

1057
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Speaker 1: you would have got all three. That's a whole different now,

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Speaker 1: a safe thing. What year are we talking? Because when

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Speaker 1: the captain wasn't around for a couple of those years,

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00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 1: five ninety six, they didn't let any of those guys go. Well,

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Speaker 1: Jerry definitely wouldn't have let that out. Now they figured

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Speaker 1: it out and they sacrificed the lower end of the roster.

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Speaker 1: Those guys are wearing gold jackets too. Yeah, that's a

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00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: big difference. And so here's the other part about it.

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Speaker 1: If you bring back all of the guys that got

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Speaker 1: you to eight, I just don't see Mike McCarthy bringing

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Speaker 1: the guys back on this defense that got them to

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00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: eight night. Well, it's the same guys that got him

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Speaker 1: to thirteen and three. But that was four years ago.

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Speaker 1: That was four is prior, Mick, I'm talking about last Well,

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Speaker 1: I got it. Yeah, so you can't. And wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: but I'm just asking. I'm asking, I'm all I'm asking

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Speaker 1: is who's going to replace him? Okay, let me Bridge,

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Speaker 1: do you give me that answer? Now? I'm let me

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Speaker 1: let me bridge just together. I'm about to I'm about

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Speaker 1: to do the biggest host duty I've ever had to

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Speaker 1: do on this. Just talking about microphone and the reason

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Speaker 1: I could do that I could Chris. The way I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna do this is Rob. You were talking about this earlier.

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Speaker 1: You were talking about because of his value and testing

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00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: the market, and you mentioned it a little bit earlier

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00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: about Terrence Williams in that wide receiver position and how

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00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: that specific offseason wide receiver in the market softened so

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00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: he was able to come back. You're talking about the

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00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 1: fact that nobody out there cornerback, defensive backwise, is going

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Speaker 1: to be able to fill the role of Byron Jones.

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Speaker 1: So that market isn't going to soften. If anything, it's

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00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: gonna be risen. Because of the lack of solid defensive back,

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00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: solid corners that are out there to go back. It's

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00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: gonna make his value go up. You're talking about the

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00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: market value. I'm not reading off a spot track. I'm

1092
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: not doing any of that. These teams are gonna look

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00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: at a guy that's the top defensive back out of

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00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: the free agent class. That's a very small free agent class.

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00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: I mean you talk about you keep asking who they're

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00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: going to go get and nobody really knows because it's

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00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: such a small lack of depth in terms of this class.

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00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: I think his value goes up and it makes it

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Speaker 1: even tougher to be signed. I'd rather deal with the

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00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: devil I know, than the devil I don't. It's the devil.

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00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 1: Either way, you're gonna have to find you a way

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Speaker 1: to deal with it. You gotta find a way to

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00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 1: deal with it. And look, i'd rather you know, you

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Speaker 1: have a defense that gets get stops or do you

1105
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,919
Speaker 1: want a defense that gets sack strip fumbles. Well, that's

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00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: gonna that's that's gonna be the difference. You're gonna have

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00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: to change the philosophy altogether. On defense. You gotta have

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00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: guys that get turnovers. The numbers when you look at

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00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: the Cowboys defense, you say, wo wow, they're in defense,

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00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: in rushing and passing all that, But those those numbers

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Speaker 1: are misleading because we're not in the top tier as

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Speaker 1: it relates to turnovers. Those things that you need to

1113
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: change the ball with you. But are you going to

1114
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Speaker 1: just go out there and say that guy gets interceptions

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Speaker 1: I'm signing them. No, No, but you're assuming by and

1116
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Speaker 1: large they do operate under the devil that I know. Right. Yeah,

1117
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: they resigned Lyle Collins, they resigned Jalen Smith. They keep

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Speaker 1: their own. We're talking about one particular case that may

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Speaker 1: just not happen because of the same I mean to

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Speaker 1: a certain degree. By signing those two guys, that affects

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Speaker 1: what you're doing with all these other guys. But they

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00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: didn't sign, they didn't sign big deals. But you can't

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Speaker 1: sign everybody back. You can't sign absolutely everybody back and

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00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,919
Speaker 1: field a football team together, necessarily, not every time Zeke

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Speaker 1: got a deal too, by the way, I mean, we're

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Speaker 1: talking about most of the guys they retain, you can

1127
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: go out and replace. It happens every year. They got

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Speaker 1: seven nine million dollars to with. Robert Quinn wasn't here

1129
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Speaker 1: a year ago, and now we're talking about how we

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Speaker 1: have to keep him. Right if the if the CBA

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Speaker 1: gets approved, Dack's not gonna cost thirty three million this year.

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Speaker 1: What's he gonna cost whatever? His signing bonus is pro

1133
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Speaker 1: raded over five years plus a small base salary. Okay,

1134
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Speaker 1: So are you saying pay Byron whatever he commands on

1135
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Speaker 1: the open market. No, I didn't say that. I'm saying

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Speaker 1: you got to find out what the market is first.

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Speaker 1: I'm not said, Look, the highest paid cornerback Xavier Howard

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Speaker 1: ye all right, five years, seventy five million, but his

1139
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Speaker 1: guarantee is thirteen point three million over three years. And

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Speaker 1: after three years they could cut him if they want

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Speaker 1: to do yes, right, so, and you can arrange it

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Speaker 1: where he doesn't count thirteen million this year if the

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Speaker 1: CBA is approved, and if if it's he wants to

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Speaker 1: come back at a certain price. We don't know. I

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Speaker 1: don't know that, right, But I'm just saying they don't

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Speaker 1: have a ready made replacement for him, and the if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna trust the rookie out there, I'm okay with it.

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Speaker 1: Just make sure you can get them, make sure you

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Speaker 1: can get them, and then also make sure you're you're

1150
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: sure in other areas of the defense to be sure

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01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 1: to make maybe the load a little bit lighter on

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Speaker 1: that rookie. But we've got seven days that maybe this

1153
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Speaker 1: will figure this some of this out. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a busy show next clear picture. It's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: very us shown. This is going to be interesting shirt.

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Speaker 1: It's a good shirts retinal I don't even know for

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Speaker 1: Roth Phillips he stuff. Thanks for listening, slash watching Talking Cowboys.

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