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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to twenty one,

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Speaker 1: episode four of Denitely Like Guy. Used to production of

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Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. Now. This is a podcast where we

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Speaker 1: take a deep dive into America's share consciousness. And it

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Speaker 1: is Thursday January, which of course means that it is

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Speaker 1: National Chocolate Cake Day. Yeah, my, yamam glad it has

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Speaker 1: I'm glad it's getting recognized. Yeah are you Are you

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Speaker 1: a chocolate cake head? Yeah, a chocolate cake I mean,

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Speaker 1: will you'll allow it but you're not? Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: vote to it. If it's very if it's like just

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Speaker 1: chock full of you know, icing and ship not fondent,

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Speaker 1: then yeah, I'll I will consume. I just like a

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Speaker 1: cake that's all fond it all the way down, just

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Speaker 1: and it's just yeah, it takes forty five minutes to

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Speaker 1: process a bite. But that's how you know it's working.

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Speaker 1: That's where the good stuff said. Well, my name is

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Speaker 1: Jack O'Brien, A kit to the Daily to the Zight

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Speaker 1: oh three three, and I'm thrilled to be joined as

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Speaker 1: always buy my co host, Mr Miles Boys. Miles Gray,

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Speaker 1: straight from the San Fernando Valley just pulled up off

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Speaker 1: lancership so sweaty because he's been exercising for the first

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Speaker 1: time in months. It's a day. Oh no ho, and

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for tuning into Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Thanks right, m right, you've really been exercises those Oh yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: how many teams I fight daily in the streets. All right, well, Miles,

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Speaker 1: We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by

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Speaker 1: very special guest's journalist who went undercover in the far

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Speaker 1: right for a year, attending Q and on events and

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Speaker 1: speck mingling with straight up Nazis, even spending time with

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Speaker 1: the Proud Boys just before the January six insurrection. Please

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Speaker 1: welcome the talented, the brave. Amanda, what welcome. I'm so

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Speaker 1: excited to be here. Yeah, what's good? What's new? What's

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Speaker 1: I mean? I don't know what's new. This is the

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Speaker 1: first time we're meeting you, so actually, oh, you know,

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Speaker 1: just just normal stuff. Finally just being a normal person

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Speaker 1: not having to be a secret Nazi on the side.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty pretty cool. It's new to me. It's right, right,

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Speaker 1: right right. Oh yeah, I'm glad. You're glad you're off

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Speaker 1: secret Nazi duty for the moment. Me too. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: what Actually I was going to be like, where are

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Speaker 1: you located? Like we normally asked our guests, but I

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Speaker 1: don't even want to. Oh no, I'm in d C.

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Speaker 1: It's fine that part. Everybody knows that. Okay, it's all

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Speaker 1: over Instagram. Oh god, is that was that like sort

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Speaker 1: of a moment where like in the like a rom

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Speaker 1: com where they're like, but I loved you, you were

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Speaker 1: against me this whole time. Yeah, that was the first

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Speaker 1: question we all had as rom com fans, as what

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Speaker 1: were there any spark? My nightmare is that somebody makes

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Speaker 1: a movie about my life and like calls it the

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Speaker 1: Last Fascists, and like my character falls in love with

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Speaker 1: a Nazi and so you guys are breathing this into existence.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, it started as a game and you're like,

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Speaker 1: I don't I know, but I love him. Don't think

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Speaker 1: about Nick Fuentes. I mean that is that could be

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Speaker 1: That is definitely a possible future when once like the

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Speaker 1: Right becomes more and more normalized where it's yeah that

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Speaker 1: that act league I think is in play, where the

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Speaker 1: studios are like, yeah, Mackenzie gives the Hollywood studios reports,

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Speaker 1: like you're leaving a lot of money on the table

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Speaker 1: by noting about this stuff. Once this kid rock song

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Speaker 1: really takes off, they're gonna they're gonna be like, there

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Speaker 1: are fans out there, there's unrecognized revenue, and that is

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Speaker 1: what matters. Are you actively Are we allowed to speak

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Speaker 1: to any work that you're actively doing? Your screen name?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's fine. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, so you

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Speaker 1: came on with a different name than the one we

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Speaker 1: were told, confusing us. It doesn't take much. But we're

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Speaker 1: like we we were told we're going to meet Amanda

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Speaker 1: is Amanda in the room. But you're you're so you're

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Speaker 1: still working, your working your spycraft out here in the

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Speaker 1: digital realms. So that's cool to see it. Yeah. Did

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Speaker 1: you always have the kind of personality that would lend

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Speaker 1: itself to doing things like this too? Be like you know,

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Speaker 1: can walk through doors and convince people that I'm into

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Speaker 1: the nonsense that they're talking about. Um well, I was

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Speaker 1: raised evangelical, and then my parents are both Trump supporters,

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Speaker 1: so it's it's not much of a leap. I was

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Speaker 1: so yeah, you know, and then do you do you

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Speaker 1: like pranks like just pulling the rug out from under people,

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Speaker 1: like come on, I wish that I could have been

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Speaker 1: there when everybody realized, like what happened. I would pay

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Speaker 1: any amount of money anything to be able to have

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Speaker 1: a recording of that conversation. I mean. Candid Camera was

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Speaker 1: I snabbed the hot dog on a stick guy. Though,

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Speaker 1: all right, Amanda, we're going to get to know you

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Speaker 1: a little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about how kid rock has officially owned

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Speaker 1: the left. The right is both getting very funny and

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Speaker 1: the left is terrified, but they're also getting really good

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Speaker 1: just like really memorable hooks. It's like you're like this, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk about that. We're gonna check in

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Speaker 1: with another Jen six or the just didn't have a

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Speaker 1: good day in Core, like yeah, just you know, the

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Speaker 1: system wants to go easy on these folks, but they

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Speaker 1: make it so hard to talk about that. And we'll

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Speaker 1: just be getting Amanda's firsthand account of what these these

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Speaker 1: people are are actually like. But before we get to that,

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Speaker 1: what is something Amanda from your search history that's revealing

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Speaker 1: back who you are or what you're up to? When

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Speaker 1: does the new keeping up with the Kardashian So, come on,

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Speaker 1: there is I'm desperate for it. I need to They

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Speaker 1: they said that we have a countdown in the new year.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's almost February. We don't have a countdown

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Speaker 1: to the new show. I I need it. I need

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Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, is that A is a trash reality?

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Speaker 1: How you offset the sordid reality that you interact with

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Speaker 1: was happening where Kim and Kanye still together? Kim Ye apologies,

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Speaker 1: Well it was like falling apart and like they like

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Speaker 1: But I think that the divorce is what's holding up

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Speaker 1: the new show. That's my conspiracy theory, um like in

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Speaker 1: wasn't really like I guess it can't really be a

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Speaker 1: conclusion like they're going to be like rich forever. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Rader for Twitter account room Rader have I got into

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Speaker 1: oh my god, You're so lucky. You're so It is

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Speaker 1: a Twitter account that is dedicated to criticizing or rating

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Speaker 1: people's backgrounds when they go on like CNN or MSNBC

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Speaker 1: about there time reading rooms. Okay, so elaborated, because I'm

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Speaker 1: still I'm still trying to connect the dots here. So

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Speaker 1: it's just like going to the thread and Tom Nichols,

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Speaker 1: the Atlantic contributing writer Tom Nichols, who were all familiar with,

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Speaker 1: is on MSNBC and has you know, his own carefully

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Speaker 1: constructed me since seen in the background that includes a

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Speaker 1: some books and stuff. It's like, get it. That's a

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Speaker 1: great concept for an account because you see what these

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Speaker 1: I would be okay with it if it was only

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Speaker 1: rich people. But if you are like a person who

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Speaker 1: gets to go on the news because you're a researcher

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Speaker 1: or because you make it's something, they do it to you,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, well fuck you, you know, like, um,

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Speaker 1: let's make fun of the rich people who can afford

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Speaker 1: fancy like ship in the background, and maybe not make

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Speaker 1: fun of like the grad student who whose paper you're citing,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, what's the account exactly

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Speaker 1: my arms are okay, and this body armor is more

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00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 1: like I'm cosplaying as one of my favorite characters from

423
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 1: a telegram channel that I come on all day. But yeah,

424
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: his defensive like oh, it's always just there, the look

425
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: of stuff. It may have held up for maybe ten

426
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: more minutes had he not posted like a dumb like

427
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: little Facebook flex post with a Searcy Lanister quote. And

428
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 1: this post has brought us to the point where now

429
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: where the or federal prosecutors are having to explain the

430
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: plot of Game of Thrones to begin to connect the

431
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,239
Speaker 1: dots for people about what this person's intent was at

432
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: the Capitol. So two days after the insurrection, this guy

433
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: posted an image of a soldier from the American Revolution

434
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: with the caption quote, as said by sarc Lanister, I

435
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,719
Speaker 1: chew is violence. So then and the footnote of this, uh,

436
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: this prosecute the document. They're talking about how this whole so,

437
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: this whole thing happens. Quote. Searcy Landister is a fictional

438
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: character in the HBO television series Game of Thrones. After

439
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: being confronted by a group of politically empowered religious Zelids

440
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: who warn her that if she does not yield to them,

441
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: there will be violence, Searcy Landister responds, I choose violence.

442
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: They go on to say that the footnotes also explains

443
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: that Searcy used quote a weapon of mass destruction to

444
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: blow up one of the largest and most important buildings

445
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: in the capital city, which contained politicians and religious religious leaders.

446
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I didn't even make that connection.

447
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 1: That is good background. Yeah, and I don't even think

448
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: that guy, did you know? When I read that, I

449
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that's right, because what was the what

450
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: was that ship called the Night? What that that green

451
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: ship that they used to blow up the Yeah, you

452
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: don't talking about whatever. This is how long the show

453
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: has been. And I put it to the back of

454
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: my mind. But I think for them, it's just like

455
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: I like this quote of being like I have a

456
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 1: buyinary in front of me and I'm going a tough

457
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: guy it out. And then so they go on to

458
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: say quote in stating I choose violence, Sarci Lanister embraced

459
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: and then carried out mass murder to achieve her political ends.

460
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: In the context of Kaplinger posting this just two days

461
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: after January six, Kadlinger's adoption of this quote is alarming

462
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: and provides insight into his mental state and intent storming

463
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: the Capital. I mean, I choose violence with a meme

464
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: by that point, so by like references saying that it

465
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: was Sarcy Lanister, like attributing it to that character, I

466
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: do feel like he's kind of freighting it with a

467
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: little bit of extra when ship posting in your ship

468
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: posts exhibit hey in your federal prosecution, like I'm just

469
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: ship posting man, Like, no, look, really understand what you're

470
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: saying here, oh right, huh maybe in your experience, uh

471
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: being they're seeing these people, Amanda like there there does

472
00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: seem to be like a blurring between people thinking or

473
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: at least like portraying it as like they're there for

474
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: the lolls and you know, the people who like we

475
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: got Trump elected as like a bit basically and now

476
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: kind of bleeding into Nazis, like straight up Nazis who

477
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: are trying to overthrow the government. Like what just that

478
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: cosmic gumbo, I guess I would call it of like

479
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: different types of motivations and types of people, like what

480
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: what did you well, what were your impressions over the

481
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: last year. I have every every Nazi, every literal like

482
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: neo fascist white nationalists that I have met, is proud

483
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: of January six. They think it didn't go far enough.

484
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: I think the accounting fathers would be proud of what

485
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: had happened. And they think, you know, like they're willing

486
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: to ad minute. They think that the whole FBI Antifa

487
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: thing is stupid and embarrassing, and some of them will

488
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: say differently um publicly, especially if they're like lower level

489
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: elected officials, but behind closed doors, that's what they all say,

490
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: compared to like this like weird. Like I mean, I'll

491
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: get like people who will tell me many of the

492
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: people that I met were there with all the past year,

493
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: and most of the people there were there on January six,

494
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: and I'll have like, you know, like Grandma's being like, yeah,

495
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: it was a prayer circle. We held hands and prayed

496
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: in like gave bibles to the homeless people. And I'm

497
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: like and she's you know, they'll be like, oh, like

498
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: all all the violence was Antifa, and it's like, what

499
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? You know, So when it

500
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,959
Speaker 1: was actually happening, like everybody was all in. I mean,

501
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: I mean I was at the Capital, so I wasn't

502
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: you know, like far away, so I don't know. Maybe

503
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: there really was some giant prayers circle closer to the

504
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: White House, But when I was there, I mean, people

505
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: were all in the point that people were cheering when

506
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: the police were like, you know, having pepper bombs like

507
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: at us because they thought it was to get Antifa.

508
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: They thought it was to get the counter protesters that

509
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: were stopping us from coming into the capital. Um, So

510
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: in the moment, everybody was all in. It's just like

511
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: what has happened? Since that. Hell, you've explained it to

512
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: yourself and others, right, I mean I was at a

513
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: prayer circle at the Capitol that day. We were like,

514
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: we didn't even it was a complete coincidence. We didn't

515
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: even know what was happening. We didn't even notice it

516
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: really because we were so into our prayers. Just yeah, yeah,

517
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: and then yeah, when and then when Jake put on

518
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,719
Speaker 1: his Viking helmet and like left, You're like, all right, later, bro,

519
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: I guess I'll see you. Yeah, And I remember you

520
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: texted me. You're like, man, that Jake guys pretty Scott,

521
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: He's got some ideas, man. Yeah. Weaver was like a

522
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: lot of intersection with like, you know, like Viking Scandinavian mythology.

523
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: He was really putting me up on. But yeah, So

524
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: you're saying like in a way that there's like two

525
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: levels of engagement, right, Like with the more chest out fascists,

526
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, we did that, and I don't want

527
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: to hear someone trying to say that it wasn't us,

528
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: because that was like they they're proud of seeing that.

529
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: And then on the other hand, you'll have these like

530
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: older people who are less like if they're there They're

531
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: mindset has just been more like they like that they're

532
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: on more of a benign mission than maybe like a

533
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: militaristic one. Yeah, I think, I mean, like obviously, like

534
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: I think, you know, saying that people that were there

535
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: were Taurus is incredibly disingenuous and obviously bullshit. But I

536
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: will say like those like those some of those tourists

537
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: were just useful idiots that you know, you need bodies,

538
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: you need people, or you can't have you know, what

539
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: you're trying to do. Um And so I think a

540
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: lot of people were very convinced they were on the

541
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: right side and that even some of the police were

542
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: on their side, and they saw like what they were

543
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: doing as like good, and I think they just don't

544
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: have to reconcile with that. I mean, even speaking of

545
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: like Jake, he was at the other Allies and you know,

546
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: families line up and take pictures with him, and I think,

547
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: you know, like I think a lot of about like

548
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: those families and those little kids who like took pictures

549
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: with you know, the Q and on Shaman, and like

550
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: what do they do with those pictures now? Like are

551
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: you still happy you have them? Like have you have

552
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: you disconnected this much in your brain. It's just yeah,

553
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: it's very it's very strange, and it's um. I would

554
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: listen to people as they would talk about what they

555
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: witnessed at the Capitol, and they would say things like,

556
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: you know, I saw a bus pull up of people

557
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: and they went and changed in bushes into MAGA gear,

558
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: which like, why wouldn't they just change in the bus

559
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: It's stupid already. And then it would be like and

560
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: they'd be like, like one lady was like, I think

561
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: that they were sex slaves. I think it was Antifa

562
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: sex slaves that were drugged up. And I'm like, I mean,

563
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: just literally any thought and not have stake responsibility for

564
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: what you did, right, And it sounds like there's a

565
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: lot of like you know, in built world building and

566
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: paranoia fueling things that I really think about that one

567
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: part of your rite up around Like the day before,

568
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: like everybody was just sort of in this sort of

569
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: stance of like are we about to be attacked? Like

570
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: are we like something going to happen to us? So

571
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: that way, so if we need to project more aggression outwardly,

572
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: like that's just a function of us trying to protect ourselves,

573
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: like So what was that sort of energy like, because

574
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: that really struck me when I read that part of

575
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: how everyone was sort of in this like group mindset

576
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: of paranoia to begin like justifying a lot of violence,

577
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: it was really weird. Um. So the first rally was

578
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: in November, shortly after the election was called, and that

579
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 1: was like, I mean, there was violence and there was

580
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: some paranoia. But the next rally in December is really

581
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: where it kicked up. And just being around people who

582
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: literally would say to me, oh, you're going to your car,

583
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: you know six blocks away. There's a lot of enemies afoot.

584
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: You know, you have to be safe, you have to

585
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: be vigilant, like somebody has to walk you. You know,

586
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: you can't go anywhere alone. And like downtown d C

587
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: is where this is happening, and downtown d C is

588
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: pretty safe in general, but during COVID it's pretty much abandoned.

589
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: So we're the only people there, you know. Um, And

590
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: it was just you know, in November, people were still oh,

591
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: I backed the Blue and thanking the cops and shaking

592
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: their hands, and by December it was you know, the

593
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: cops are useless, they are unable to do anything. You know,

594
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: Blue mayors and every city just let violence, you know,

595
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: run unchecked and the cops can't help us even if

596
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: they want to. And so it was like building up

597
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: this narrative the only people that we could trust to

598
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: protect us with the Proud Boys, Right, Yeah, there was

599
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: like you're you're reporting kind of I guess, I like

600
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: saw the Proud Boys that some other people like crashing in,

601
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: but then they're all all these people, maybe the people

602
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: who were like claiming they were in a prayer circle,

603
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: but they're like not the Proud Boys, but they're they're

604
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: in this like group where they are under attack and

605
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: the Proud Boys are the only ones like they're to

606
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: protect them. Like was like a kind of level of

607
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: I don't know, like the dynamic that hadn't really come

608
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: across to me. That's so interesting because I mean, like

609
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: I've I've had a really hard time consuming media, Like

610
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: I have not followed the arrest or anything from January

611
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: six especially. I've just been busy. I've had to lead

612
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: two lives and that's been taxing. But I also, like,

613
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: I don't I found a lot of the covers frustrating

614
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 1: and and for me, I mean, that's it out to

615
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: me so much. It's it's like shocking to me that

616
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: people are surprised by it because it was I mean,

617
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: it messed me up for days, like that rally in December.

618
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't shut up about it, Like my friends were

619
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: probably like tired of me, you know, I couldn't stop

620
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 1: telling people, and like something bad is going to happen,

621
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: Like I don't know if it's next time or the

622
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: time after that, but this is going to be really bad.

623
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: And then you know, a little cold. It wasn't great.

624
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: January six not so good. I mean, people talk about

625
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: a civil war, like the the idea of a civil

626
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: war has gone from like a silly thing or like

627
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: a like sort of fringe paranoia thing to now something

628
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: that's being becoming like a more popular opinion that we're

629
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: like headed to something that looks like a civil war.

630
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: Like I feel like we're maybe already in sort of

631
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: a cold civil war with the occasional flare up. But

632
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: the more like we kind of exist in the post

633
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: January six world, the more it seems like a lot

634
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 1: of the stuff that you were seeing behind the scenes

635
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: is no. It's not a like that wasn't a breaking

636
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 1: point where people like took a step back and we're like, oh, wow,

637
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 1: that was bad and we need to like learn from that.

638
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: It's like you're seeing those that belief system like become

639
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: more and more popular and widespread, like that paranoia of

640
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: like we're under attack and like only like strong men

641
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: can save us. Like I you saw that in the

642
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: like New York Times Frank Bruni poll of undecided voters,

643
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,919
Speaker 1: Like it was basically unanimous people being like, yeah, we're

644
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: like the crime is out of control, and like it's

645
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 1: because we defunded the police, and like all these like

646
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: far right talking points that have just like kind of

647
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: made their way out. I don't know, it just feels

648
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: like the in that sort of civil war conflict that

649
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: people were saying like would never happen the like I

650
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: I also think that like the mainstream media and lot

651
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 1: of people underestimate how strong that like proud boys side

652
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: of it is and has like continued to become Like

653
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: what what are your thoughts as somebody who's like kind

654
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: of been there for first and seeing it, well, I

655
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: think it bleeds into like every facet of what we're

656
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: seeing right now. I mean, if you can whip people

657
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 1: up into a frenzy and convince them that there's enemies everywhere.

658
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: You can get them to do anything you want as

659
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: long as you're like providing a way to protect them.

660
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: And so a lot of what you're seeing now with

661
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: school boards and stuff that you know, I was in

662
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: like little classes being coached on how to like run

663
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 1: for school board in February of one right, and it's

664
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: you know, using those exact same talking points and instead

665
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: of doing it and a militia or a probad boys

666
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: stree violence kind of way, it's like, how can you

667
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: do this, you know, with a suit on? And that

668
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: is why like CRT, you know, critical race theory being

669
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: such a big thing, A lot of it comes from

670
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 1: teaching people like this is how you combat this stuff.

671
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: This is like if you don't want to defund the police,

672
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: if you want crime to be you know lower, if

673
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 1: you want your kids to be safe in school, like

674
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: this is the stuff that you have to do. You

675
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 1: have to run for office. And like this is why

676
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: I knew UM and U c r T was going

677
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: to be a really big deal because in April I

678
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 1: was at Trump's arral and a a woman named Landon

679
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: Starbuck whose husband is running for Congress. She was like,

680
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: CRT is what they are teaching your kids, the Democrats,

681
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: to make them more susceptible to child sex trafficking so

682
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: they can like, you know, like traffic your kids, which

683
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: is like crazy, right, Like it's it's so removed from

684
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: reality that teaching people critical race theory is a way

685
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: to make the susceptible to be child sex trafficked. There's

686
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: no like logical connection, but it work because everybody that

687
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: room was like yeah, absolutely and buzz words. Yeah. Well

688
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: at the time, I was like, what the fund is CRT,

689
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: Like I had no idea, this is April, Like I

690
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: don't know what this is. But that kind of like

691
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: paranoia and fear that they just they just go, they

692
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 1: dial it up all the way and it makes people

693
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: do like whatever. So it makes them trust to It

694
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: makes them willing to run for office, It makes them

695
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: willing to give their money because they're just so afraid

696
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: all of the time. And I don't see you know,

697
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: in the media, there's a lot of people just they're

698
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: giving like equal equal platforms, as though both sides are

699
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 1: you know, making good faith, are you ment? And obviously

700
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 1: that's not true. Well, we just need to come together,

701
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: like just come together, right right on these nuts, come together,

702
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: suck on these yeah yeah, yeah, So I I don't know,

703
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: I don't know when people are gonna wake up to it,

704
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: because it's it's happening, you know, it's no longer just

705
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: happening in violence, which is bad, but like you know,

706
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: I think it's worse when it's happening, you know, in

707
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: the local election level, where people you can do violence

708
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: like a limited number of times before you're no longer

709
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: allowed to do violence. But if you are on the

710
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: school board, you can do a lot of harm for

711
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: a very long time, right right, Yeah, it's to that

712
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: point of like you know, the ability for someone to evolve.

713
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: I know, you know when we were d m ng

714
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: your to your time, well, like I know, vaccine cop

715
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: Like I was at some like Q ship with this

716
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: guy and you know that and we were talking a

717
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: little bitou Q and you know, like even there, right,

718
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm also really interested to see like what

719
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: the cognitive dissonance is like in real time when you're

720
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: like in these groups and everybody's getting ready for one

721
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 1: thing to happen and it doesn't, and you do see

722
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: sometimes there will be like a minority of people who

723
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 1: make question like, ah, like what now when other people

724
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: just don't worry about it, man, just keep going, keep going,

725
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: keep going. What is that like? Sort of what is

726
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: that process like? And is that even something that is

727
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 1: potentially that could happen on a wider scale or because like,

728
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 1: you know, obviously those people in the minority, because they're

729
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: the ones who are going to somehow you know, look

730
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: at their situation and try and have a reckoning with it.

731
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: But you know what, what what was sort of that

732
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: like just to kind of watch that happen in front

733
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: of you. So, I mean obviously what I was doing was,

734
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: you know, a self selecting group of people. A lot

735
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: of these cuban On events I went to were between

736
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: like five hundred and twelve hundred dollars to get in

737
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 1: the door. So if you're like having questions, you're probably

738
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: not going to pay all that money. So what I

739
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 1: would see more of would be like problems that people

740
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: would have with influencers. So you know, maybe someone doesn't

741
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: like something that Mike Flynn said, or somebody doesn't like

742
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: something that you know, some other you know, lynn Wood said.

743
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: But that being said, the influencers themselves are very good

744
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: at like dealing with that and kind of like trying

745
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: to make those like fears go away. And I have

746
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: found that when things don't pan out, people, if they

747
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: get upset, blame an influencer. So the way like Q

748
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: and on works is that, you know, all of these

749
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: cue drops came out and there's no that's no longer happening,

750
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: but people would bake them and they would try to

751
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: figure out you know, whatever secret meaning they could figure out,

752
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 1: and a lot of the influencers, uh, you know, would

753
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: speak on these cue drops, so it's easier to be like, oh, well,

754
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: you know so and so's interpretation was wrong versus you know,

755
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: Que's wrong, and there's always you know, some excuse. Lynn

756
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: Wood in particular would say stuff, you know like Q

757
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: is you, and Q is me, and Q is all

758
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: the people who hate child sex trafficking. So you know,

759
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 1: we don't really need to have any answers because Q

760
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: is what you feel inside, which is like genius if

761
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: you're trying to manipulate a bunch of people, but it's

762
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: also very dumb. M Are there other people that you

763
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: see as like, okay, this is somebody that we're unfortunately

764
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: going to be hearing a lot from in the in

765
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 1: the future. Like if you heard about this guy Donald Trump,

766
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: He's having a reality show and I think he might

767
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: have a future. Now do you like, is there somebody

768
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: that has a lot of power in that underground that

769
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: you saw that we should be worried about. Well, first,

770
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just say I'm shocked about vaccine police making

771
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: national news because that's a weird dude. I mean, even

772
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: how Q went on event, You're like, Wow, this dude

773
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: is extra. So he just tapped into the fact that

774
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: we all want to drink our pea. Yeah, you know,

775
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 1: speaking to the nation. Um, Like, I think there was

776
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: one influencer in particular. I was Um, it was actually

777
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: at the event where I first met vaccine Police, and

778
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: I was in my hotel lobby and some random people

779
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: were like, did you want to go to a baptism

780
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: on the beach And I'm like yeah, okay, So they

781
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: put me in their car and we drove like half

782
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: an hour away to go to baptism, and um, the

783
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: guy who was like running it was this guy named

784
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: Brad Barton who had I don't know, like thirty thousand

785
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: followers on telegram at this time and since then he

786
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 1: has like a hundred and thirty thousand followers. He hosted

787
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: a nine eleven Memorial Day event that featured General Flynn

788
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: and lynn Wood that I paid five dollars to go

789
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 1: to and I had to bring my own chair, which

790
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: meant I had to buy a chair at the event

791
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: in addition to buying my ticket. Yeah, okay, keep going

792
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: because I have more grift questions. Yes, yeah, I call

793
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: it my b y oc my bringer on chair. Then,

794
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: so I did that. I went to another event he

795
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: had in South Carolina. So he is like becoming huge,

796
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: but he's not really like gaining me like media attraction.

797
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: He certainly is a bigger following the vaccine police does.

798
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: I did get to keep the chair. I was a

799
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: twenty five dollar chair. I got a deal on the chair.

800
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: So okay. The chair is like it looks like a plate,

801
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 1: but then you twist it, you know those like finger traps.

802
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 1: It's kind of like you like pulls like it kind

803
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: of looks like that when you pull it out, so

804
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: it's like portable so you can put it in your

805
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: luggage when you're done. The chairs were thirty five dollars,

806
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: but the woman selling the chairs. Was like friendly with

807
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: me because I had seen her so many times. So

808
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: she gave me a bargain for twenty five dollar chair,

809
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: So five flighter for the tickets for the chair. Wow.

810
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: And that's like and that's someone who that's like their

811
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: side business. Someone just like I know they're not gonna

812
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: have chairs here, so I'm just gonna set up my

813
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: chair shop. Oh man, gonna really mess your day up. Okay.

814
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 1: So she sells all this Trump stuff at like every

815
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: event you can imagine, like like Second Amendment or events,

816
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: um like things that trumped around. Like she like donates

817
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: money to Trump at he's blinked out purses. That's a

818
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: Trump on them she's got. She actually sold me. I

819
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 1: have a hat that says like funck Biden that she

820
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: has sold me at a different event. She's every every

821
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 1: Q and on or Trump event you can think of.

822
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: They have a presence, her little company does. But yeah,

823
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: she knew it wasn't bringing your on chair events, so

824
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: she ordered a bunch of chairs because she also sells

825
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: them at Trump like rallies when he speaks. So there's

826
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: like a whole side world of like whatever you want

827
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: to sell. I'm always struck by like the black people

828
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: selling the stuff at the events and I'm like, look

829
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 1: at this just hustling because I'm like, I'm not sure

830
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,439
Speaker 1: how many of these people I saw like one video

831
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: a g I was like, I'm just selling this ship

832
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: because it sells, and you're like, wow, what an interesting

833
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: And then you have the people who are like, I'm

834
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: so devoted. I do customed to jeweled pimp cups for

835
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 1: let's say go Brandon and we got it all right, Yeah,

836
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. I do want to ask

837
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: about weaknesses and that, like the scam ability of the

838
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: like supporter base seems to be one potential one. But yeah,

839
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. We'll be right back to

840
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: talk more about this. And we're back, and yeah, we're

841
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: talking before the break about just first of all, who

842
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: we're going to see like rising up and it does

843
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 1: seem to be just an assortment of scammers, Like what

844
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: what are the weaknesses that you see that like could

845
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: bring the whole kind of far right you know, movement

846
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: that has a lot of energy right now, like down

847
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: or slow it down? I guess eight question. I mean,

848
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's so hard. I mean I think

849
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: it's got it. There's not like there's not one answer

850
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: for everybody, right, Like you would have to to to

851
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: localize it, make it very like so if you follow

852
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: this person who has these events, maybe you can separate

853
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: somebody from like following that influencer, but they might still

854
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: follow like Q and on. It's it's really hard to say.

855
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: I I think in terms of just like knee happin

856
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: it Like I am an advocate of first line of

857
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: defences banning people from social media platforms because that's you know,

858
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: like number one. But it can't stop there. You have

859
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: to like continue on if these people, I mean, there's

860
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: a lot of MLM crossover, a lot of pyramid scheme

861
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: people are in this industry now and secrets to success.

862
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: The secrets is success and how to be more and

863
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: to be a more confident business person. Oh yeah, it's

864
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: so funny because sometimes I listen to the speakers and

865
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: you like you can tell they took their old MLM

866
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: speeches and just changed a couple of words to make

867
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: a Q and unrelated. It's it's and a lot of them,

868
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: like I've they've scrubbed their old stuff from the Internet,

869
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: and I've been able to find some things. You know,

870
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: that's older of them actually giving MLM speeches and you

871
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: can brought it next to each other and you're just like,

872
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: it's it's so frustrating that this is happening. So yeah, right,

873
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: like so unlocking your personal power has become our fight

874
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: against tyrannical sexual predators. Yeah yeah, And they're like yeah,

875
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: together and we can unlock that power. That's why. So

876
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: because I mean, yeah, it is clear that at a

877
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: certain point, you're like so many like a lot of

878
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: these people are in there for the grift and also

879
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: just like probably like the ego reinforcement of being like

880
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 1: I love it. I go these places, people fucking scream

881
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: and like they love me, and I lie and I

882
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: make money at all works. Like what do you think

883
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: the spread the split is of people who are you know,

884
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: trying to ascend, whether through influencing or like these MLM

885
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: people that are like fully bought in, and the people

886
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: who are completely cynical, just scam artists who are like, dude,

887
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: these people are so freaking easy to like builk, Like

888
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: I literally got them to buy their own chairs at

889
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: a fucking event. They paid five you know what I mean,

890
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: Like I'm curious what, because that seems like the weaknesses

891
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: that clearly there are people who are fully bought in

892
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: on in every dimension of like right wing extremism. But

893
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: there's also a very clear group of people who are

894
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: like as a fun I can sweeze a lot of

895
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: dollars out of these people too. I don't know that

896
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: there's a big division. I mean, just think about it.

897
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: If you take any group of people, right, like I

898
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: own a business. You know, if you like, put a

899
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 1: group of people like anything I voted for Bernie, Take

900
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: a group of Bernie supporters, right or like I like

901
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 1: I like to hike. Take a group people like hiking.

902
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: You're going to have people who are like business minded.

903
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 1: You're going to have people who are scammers. You're going

904
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: to have people who are like gullible. It doesn't matter,

905
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: you know what your basis. And so I think for

906
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: most people, what's happening is they support Trump and they

907
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 1: support like the cause, and they're just seeing an opportunity

908
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: the way that you would any other like situation. Financially,

909
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: I don't think there's many people who were like disillusion

910
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: with like Trump or Maga world who are super involved

911
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: in it. I mean all the other like and like.

912
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: I think out of all the people who are like like,

913
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 1: I think Mike G. Lindell is a true believer, would

914
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: beyond anything. I think he's willing to like lose whatever

915
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: because he's such a true believer. And I don't think

916
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: that's most people. I think most people are a little

917
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: bit more grounded in reality than Michaelendell is. But I

918
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: I don't really think that there's too many complete nonbelievers

919
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: who are like running running the scam in here. At

920
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: the very least, you know, a lot of them are

921
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 1: donating to Trump and it's it's public and traceable, and

922
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: so I believe that they are at the very least

923
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: a Trump supporder. Yeah, I mean, you know, the the

924
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: last we checked in from a electoral perspective with this movement,

925
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: like a shocking number of Americans voted for Trump, like

926
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 1: would And I know, I like, this isn't necessarily your

927
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 1: area of expertise, but like, I guess my theory is

928
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: that it has only grown in popularity since then, just

929
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: based on how many like people like just a comparison

930
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: of the average person in their opinions on vaccines and

931
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: like the government, and then Trump in general, like it

932
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: it feels like I don't know, I'm very pessimistic about

933
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: where we like what we're going to find out in

934
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: the mid terms. Like, do you is there any reason

935
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: for hope that you're seeing like anything late? Like you

936
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 1: mentioned that some people are like a little bit more

937
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: on the fence than we might expect, But like, what

938
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts? Are they organizing? Do you do

939
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: you think that we're fucked thoughts? So I'll preface it

940
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: by saying that, like, at the end of the day,

941
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 1: there's like more people in this country are not neo

942
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: fascist white nationalists, so like we don't have to lose,

943
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: but we could. Yeah, I mean they're organizing, they are.

944
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: Over the summer, I went to an event that Lynnwood

945
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,720
Speaker 1: was at. Lyndwood had run for office in South Carolina

946
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: and the man who convinced him to run for office

947
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: was a man named Presley Stunts. And Presley Stunts was

948
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: a tea party guy who like is now obviously like

949
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: there's a lot of crossover from tea party into this

950
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 1: world now and the tea parties whole thing, you know,

951
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: over a decade ago, was run for school board, run

952
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: for local elections, and so he was teaching us about that,

953
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 1: and he was saying things to us like you might

954
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: be sitting in this room. We were in Greenville, South Carolina,

955
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 1: so it's not like a big city or anything. You know,

956
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 1: you're you might be sitting here and you might be thinking,

957
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: I only make nine dollars an how where I only

958
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: have you know, a G E D. Like, I don't

959
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 1: know anything. How how can I contribute? And instead of

960
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: being like like sometimes democrats do where it's like, oh,

961
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: Lauren Billbert's an idiot because she has a G E D.

962
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: Instead of being you know, like gatekeeping, he was like,

963
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: all you have to do is listen to us and

964
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: we'll teach you everything you need to know. We can

965
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: help you, you know, like you're here and that means

966
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: you want to learn, and that's what matters. It doesn't

967
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 1: matter what your background is, doesn't matter what your job is,

968
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,720
Speaker 1: because you can help change the future of our country.

969
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 1: Presley Studs let an harassment campaign to bully and terrorize

970
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: the woman who had won, uh like the head of

971
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 1: the local GOP into quitting, like, harassed her kids, harassed her,

972
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: and it worked and you know, she quit. And then

973
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 1: I think Pressley was in charge, and now he's dead

974
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: of COVID because every event I went to was a

975
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 1: super spread event and he refused to get vaccinated. So

976
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: now you know, but before he died he was able

977
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: to like take over um and just like watching all

978
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: of this stuff play out and how it's being planned

979
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,720
Speaker 1: and then coming back into the normal world and seeing

980
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: how like regular people are interacting with each other, you

981
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 1: know that aren't in the depths of this. It's I mean,

982
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: like how many Democratic campaigns are like gonna you know,

983
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: be like Lauren Bilbert's an idiot. Q and On is stupid,

984
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: you know, Marjorie Taylor Green is stupid. Like there's a

985
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,280
Speaker 1: lot of of rhetoric like that, and that really worries

986
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: me because they are really working hard to like be like,

987
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: you know, we're the party of the people and you

988
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 1: might be you know, a poor son of a bitch,

989
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 1: but we don't care. And so I think we need

990
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: to reevaluate well not we, but you know, the the

991
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: people saying is to reevaluate how they are handling things

992
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: and what message they want to send out to to

993
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: people who are voters in their party. And I think

994
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: that's where it makes me cynical right, because the answer

995
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: to fighting extremism is to address inequality, right, and we're

996
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: not able to do that substantively in this country, So

997
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 1: it's only making the soil more fertile for the extremism.

998
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,439
Speaker 1: And then you couple that with Democrats who don't want

999
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: to actually address inequality in a substantive, tangible way, and

1000
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 1: we've seen how much they're like, hey, man, our strategy

1001
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,240
Speaker 1: is just going to be like you're saying to gesture

1002
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: at this clown, that's will be like what about this asshole? Though, huh,

1003
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: And you're right, that's not that's not a win strategy

1004
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: because probably the ship talking that happens was like, well,

1005
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: what a Republican stand for? People need to see that

1006
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: there's actually some kind of action that goes along with

1007
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: a given parties leadership, And if the only thing that

1008
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 1: you can offer people when they're destitute and you know,

1009
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 1: scrapping together in existence is hey, what about Lauren Bobert

1010
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 1: that does fuck all for someone? Does fuck all for someone?

1011
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: Rather than saying we need a fucking we need to

1012
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: smash that win. A minimum wage to the point that

1013
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: you can't even believe what minimum wages that you'll be like,

1014
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: fuck it, Actually I want to Now I can. I

1015
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: can actually do whatever the funk I want because I

1016
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,399
Speaker 1: can live off of being a florist or whatever whatever

1017
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 1: job or you know, whatever kind of gig that you want.

1018
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: And Yeah, I think that's what really unsettles me is

1019
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: to see that the dysfunction is so clear, but obviously

1020
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: because of this capitalistic system where in there's no way

1021
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: that like the we can have like a true realignment

1022
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 1: and prioritizing the general populace rather than you know, the

1023
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: decision makers at the top. Yeah. And then like the

1024
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: two things that make me feel the shittiest about the

1025
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: country's future are anytime I look at like the Democrats

1026
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: and their reaction to like anything at this point, and

1027
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: like their attempts to like win people over by like

1028
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: you know, criticizing people for being stupid like you guys

1029
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: are talking about or just assuming that like just because

1030
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: the mainstream media is on their side and like buying

1031
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 1: into like what they say that like that's going to

1032
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: like hold any weight anymore. I feel like that's like

1033
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: less and less the case. And then we also like

1034
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: look at the other side, and they have like the

1035
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: they have like American exceptionalism and you know, white supremacy

1036
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: and violence, like open violence on their side, like those

1037
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: are all pretty potent in American history. So that's those

1038
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: are the reasons I'm feeling bad today. Well, I mean

1039
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: anything at the end of the day, what we see

1040
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: constantly though, when people are you know, on the on

1041
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: the more optimistic side of things, when people's backs are

1042
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: against the wall, like we're seeing some kind of push back,

1043
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: whether that's people trying to get organized to do what

1044
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: they can to have a more you know, equitable existence

1045
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: without completely outside of the power structures of like elected politicians.

1046
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: So there's that, Like I do count on human nature

1047
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: to prevail on some level, but I don't know that

1048
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean it's going to game out in electoral math,

1049
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: which I think that's where probably on the precipice of

1050
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: a very significant like societal shift again and as if

1051
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: the pandemic weren't enough, Yeah, well, one of the things

1052
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: that makes me hopeful, on the other hand, is seeing

1053
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: people do brave ship like go undercover with these Violet

1054
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: maniacs and like actually like do the hard reporting that

1055
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: I personally am too much of a hour to do.

1056
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: So I really appreciate you're doing it. I appreciate you

1057
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Speaker 1: coming on the show, Amanda, Where can people kind of

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Speaker 1: find you? Follow you all that good stuff? And then

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Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram at No Turtle Soup seventeen, and then

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Speaker 1: I'll have some more articles coming out I guess in

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Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks about my time undercover. Nice

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Speaker 1: Is there a tweet or some other work of social

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Speaker 1: media that you've been enjoying. I don't know if I've

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Speaker 1: be't enjoying it, but I've been thinking about it since

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Speaker 1: I saw it last night, and I can't stop thinking

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Speaker 1: about it. So it's from Isabel stand O Ball who

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Speaker 1: says it's she's responding to somebody asking what's the weirdest

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Speaker 1: celebrity interaction you've ever had? And she says, I took

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Speaker 1: a pick of Mark Ruffalo on the subway while he

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Speaker 1: was taking pics of my shoes, which he then posted

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Speaker 1: on Instagram, and um, I just yep, yes, so it's hot.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what he does on Instagram. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I can tell you I did not go look at

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Speaker 1: his Instagram, but she posted a screen shot of him

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Speaker 1: putting her feet up on up on Instagram. M okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, Mark, see later later, Brea, alright, I'm my

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Speaker 1: head on out miles. Where can people find you? What

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Speaker 1: is the tweet you've been enjoying? You can find me

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Speaker 1: on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. And also,

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Speaker 1: if you like trash TV to get you get your

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Speaker 1: heart pumping blood through your rotten corpse like me, check

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Speaker 1: out four twenty day Fiance with Sophia Alexander and I

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Speaker 1: where we love to watch ninety day fiance and married

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Speaker 1: a first Sight and all that nonsense. Um some tweets

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Speaker 1: I like, Since we're talking about celebrity interactions, let's do

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Speaker 1: a positive one. This is from first at hipster crist

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Speaker 1: Lauren Montery tweeted, tell me the strangest interaction that you've

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Speaker 1: had with a celebrity and at lucid J replied. Once

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Speaker 1: Andre three thousand was on my ferry rights to Alcatraz,

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Speaker 1: and I said hi, My six year old autistic son

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Speaker 1: came over and started talking his ear off of about

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Speaker 1: German shepherds, his obsession at the time. Andre talked to

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Speaker 1: him about dogs for like twenty minutes. We exchanged numbers.

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Speaker 1: Four years later, I got this text and It's a

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Speaker 1: screen cap that says, Hi, Jason, I was searching for

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Speaker 1: a name and yours popped up. I remember our cool

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Speaker 1: encounter on the boat. How's the kid. I'm living in

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Speaker 1: NYC now, So if you're ever here, please reach out.

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Speaker 1: That better be real. That better fucking real. That's the

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Speaker 1: greatest thing I've ever heard. I mean, because we do here,

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Speaker 1: we do hear how like you know, personal like Andre

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Speaker 1: is like out there, like you know, always this kind

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Speaker 1: of blessing people with wonderful experiences. So, you know, shout

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Speaker 1: out Jason and another one. I just want to point

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Speaker 1: out this froe at Molly Taft. Molly Taft tweeted a

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Speaker 1: screen cap so it says media ceo, We're doing a

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Speaker 1: series on salary transparency. Same media ceo. Wait, no stop

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Speaker 1: asking about no, wait, no, stop asking about mine. So

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Speaker 1: Nicholas Carlson tweeted, uh, he's like Insiders, launching a series

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Speaker 1: that demystifies people's salaries, and we need your help. At

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Speaker 1: Beck Peterson asks what is your salary? Nick? He replies,

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Speaker 1: fun question I'd rather not say publicly for lots of

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Speaker 1: practical reasons. I'm sure you can imagine. This feels a

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Speaker 1: little wimpy, but also prudent. I think I would submit

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Speaker 1: it to some third party. I could stressed to keep

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Speaker 1: an anonymous and average it with other people's roles like mine.

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Speaker 1: Fun questions, fun question question, that's great. That's a great

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Speaker 1: thing to say when you've just been fucking owned. Just

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Speaker 1: how do I plead? Plead is such a funny word.

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Speaker 1: Just chest pass it right back? All right? What's your Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a that's a fun one. Damn right. Fuck, I

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Speaker 1: hope that's true. All right, Let's see a couple tweets

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Speaker 1: I've been enjoying in honor of International Day. I want

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Speaker 1: to call it this tweet from a couple of days back.

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Speaker 1: Hot girl mess at alar Via tweeted, people in l A,

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Speaker 1: I'm staying away from carbs in the sugar. People in Chicago,

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Speaker 1: Portillo's chocolate cake is the best because they put mayonnaise

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Speaker 1: in the batter to make it denser, and I love

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Speaker 1: port Charlie James tweeted, I would like to take part

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Speaker 1: in a scheme, not a pyramid one, just a little

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Speaker 1: heist or something. So anybody who's got one of those

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Speaker 1: going on, I don't know, you know, reach out to you.

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Speaker 1: Can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore o Brian.

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Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're

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Speaker 1: at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram, we have Facebook fan

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Speaker 1: page and a website, Daily zygeist dot com, where we

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Speaker 1: post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off

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Speaker 1: to the information that we talked about in today's episode,

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Speaker 1: as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,

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Speaker 1: what song do you think people might enjoy? Oh? Man,

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Speaker 1: this is uh. This one's called Boys with Toys and

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Speaker 1: it's a it's like this. The sample was used in

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Speaker 1: this Swizz Beats track with the Locks that I really like.

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Speaker 1: It's called some dirty but hearing this brass sample, it's

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Speaker 1: really cool. Just track from like you know, this is

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Speaker 1: from like a compilation of like obscure sample tracks that

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Speaker 1: I found, but it's by Gap Mangione. What they're putting

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Speaker 1: there for the artist. But yeah, if you like some

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Speaker 1: brass music, you like something that feels a little you know, throwbacky,

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Speaker 1: just check this out for a little texture. This is

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Speaker 1: Boys with Toys. Oh right, well go check that out.

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Speaker 1: The Daily is Like Guys is a production by Heart

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Speaker 1: to your favorite shows. That's gonna do it for us

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Speaker 1: this morning, but we are back this afternoon to tell

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Speaker 1: you what's trending, and we'll talk to you all then.

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