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Speaker 1: you may know, I've been running my hour trying to,

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Speaker 1: doing it in New York and LA and all those

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Speaker 1: one more New York date and one more LA date.

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Speaker 1: So in New York, I'll be at Union Hall on

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Speaker 1: So I would simply love to see you there. I've

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Speaker 1: been really having a good time doing this and I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you guys coming out and make me out like

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Speaker 1: a fucking idiot. Okay, enjoy the episode.

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Speaker 2: Bye.

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Speaker 1: Podcast starts now.

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Speaker 3: Well, we are both going through it, folks.

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Speaker 1: Going through it in the heart of New York City.

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Speaker 1: That's right Midtown Manhattan.

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Speaker 3: So you have slept three hours.

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Speaker 1: I slept three hours. It was just one of those

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Speaker 3: Does that happen to you a lot?

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Speaker 1: Not to that extreme of a degree, but I just

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Speaker 3: So when I'm jet lagged or something like that, I'm

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Speaker 3: So are you feeling insane?

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Speaker 1: I feel insane. I feel completely insane.

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Speaker 3: Whereas I am gonna be absolutely cantid. I legitimately forgot

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Speaker 3: And it's not. It really made me nostalgic for times

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Speaker 3: Oh god, because oftentimes I find myself doing the opposite,

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, well, it's tough when you can snap into

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Speaker 3: But you're more smiles. You're not like being fake verbally.

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Speaker 1: It can be pretty scary. I gotta work on it.

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Speaker 1: When I see people who are fake, I'm like, damn,

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Speaker 3: But today is not that. I guess we're going to

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Speaker 1: Maybe real as fuck. We're taking your calls. And for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like in like, how would George Washington have a

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Speaker 3: and his big revelation was that Mark Zuckerberg asked him

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Speaker 1: Wow, we are definitely bringing that energy. Can I say?

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Speaker 1: I met with someone who is in entertainment presumably, and

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Speaker 1: It's like, well, you should kill yourself then jump off

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Speaker 3: Jump off of a building. You can film it for TikTok.

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Speaker 1: That was awesome.

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Speaker 3: Oh and by the way, this is less scandalous. But

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Speaker 1: This is so part of me. It's implicit. Of course

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Speaker 1: we're complicit. I mean we exist in a society. Of course,

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Speaker 1: speak for yourself. Should we do a call?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Please here Sam, George, Johnathan Toronto, George, I think it

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Speaker 4: was a couple of years ago that you said bears

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Speaker 4: on that. What's the state of gay guy? I guess spatishization?

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Speaker 4: Are bears still in? I think there's a there's a

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Speaker 4: to hear what you guys think. Okay, bye, how.

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Speaker 3: About I take the hair transplant question and you can

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Speaker 3: Think there was a moment where we were reaching bald

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Speaker 1: It's gone.

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Speaker 3: It is hair transplant central. Yeah, so much so that

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Speaker 5: Hi Swardson, Sam, you two are some of my absolute

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Speaker 5: My question is, and I have more I've been thinking on,

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Speaker 3: Now? That is a really good music.

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Speaker 3: I have one that I really like that I've mentioned

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Speaker 1: That's a beautiful, beautiful recommendation. Mine. My go to currently

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Speaker 1: She had vision. You just didn't see it. Well.

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Speaker 3: that already feels nostalgic. You were like, remember did it flop? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Midnight Sun, like the whole plot is like the summer

440
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,119
Speaker 1: isn't over yet, right, So I was listening to the

441
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:40,720
Speaker 1: song in the middle of the winter, I see, even

442
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,119
Speaker 1: though it wasn't a hit in the summer, and I

443
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, she's right, like, it's still

444
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,719
Speaker 1: actually summer because I'm hearing the song and so if

445
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,680
Speaker 1: it gets any more traction like today, I'm like, it's

446
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Speaker 1: song this summer.

447
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:51,800
Speaker 3: Okay, So maybe what you're saying is that it is

448
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,639
Speaker 3: inherently nostalgic because no matter where you are, you're basically thinking,

449
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:56,440
Speaker 3: what if it was summer?

450
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,160
Speaker 1: You're like, wait, even this counts as summer. It counts

451
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 1: a summer because summer isn't over yet.

452
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, And even the artifice of the video is part

453
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,360
Speaker 3: of that. It's like you're lying to yourself and you're

454
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:11,640
Speaker 3: romanticizing lying to yourself. It's literally February, it's snowing, and

455
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,680
Speaker 3: you are saying summer isn't over yet.

456
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 1: God, watching that video with that group of gay guys

457
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 1: was so fun because every gay guy was like, does

458
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 1: she even dance? Does she even dance?

459
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:20,880
Speaker 3: And then she danced?

460
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 1: Oh guess what she dances? She dances. Well, okay, we're

461
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 1: going for music to get guess what comedy?

462
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 8: Hey, guys love you both. So basically I'm gonna pleasearize.

463
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Speaker 5: A question from Jesse David Fox if that's okay.

464
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Speaker 8: And I want to know if you guys would answer,

465
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Speaker 8: what's something that you that people think is comedy that

466
00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 8: you think is not comedy? Here is my content. Saturday

467
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,120
Speaker 8: Night Went and stup No Friday Night went and saw

468
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 8: here guys as a bellhouse. It was a delight, just

469
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 8: like the wildest, most fun night of comedy ever. Okay,

470
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 8: Saturday night, I paid over one hundred dollars to see

471
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 8: a straight man comedian do an hour that was mostly

472
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 8: gender stereotypes, and I was like, oh my god, this

473
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 8: still exists, Like this is still it's still legal to

474
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Speaker 8: be hacked.

475
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 9: It's really terrible stuff. Uh So, basically.

476
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 8: That is the context for my question. I'm sure you

477
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,679
Speaker 8: guys can think of something that's not comedy that is

478
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 8: more interesting and thought out than this message from a

479
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 8: non comedian, but I would love.

480
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Speaker 10: To hear it.

481
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 1: Okay, bye bye, Wow, what a beautiful call, and thank

482
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Speaker 1: you for coming to the show.

483
00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 3: I want to know what the street comedian.

484
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm surprised you didn't name drop. That would have

485
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 1: been nice to know because then you could have done

486
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 1: it and we wouldn't have had to say I agree,

487
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 1: and we could have gotten away with like posting shit

488
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: talk without saying I agree.

489
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 3: So that's just a note for next time. But that's

490
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Speaker 3: a great first attempt.

491
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Speaker 1: You guys are totally a non so feel free to

492
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: use first and last names and say whatever you want

493
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 1: about anybody.

494
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, or just DMS. I want to know who it was.

495
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be helpful. Do you have like a quick

496
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,239
Speaker 1: ant like or not not to not quick? But I'm like,

497
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Speaker 1: I'm feeling nebulous about my answer. I there is something about.

498
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Speaker 10: Things.

499
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Speaker 3: What I don't like is when things are only reactive,

500
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 3: like when you who is that sort of like fashion?

501
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 3: This is not about him, and I have no negative

502
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 3: thoughts towards him, but like that fashion guy Nikki something

503
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 3: who's yes, what's his last name?

504
00:23:55,600 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: Oh god, oh I know it. I think it's like

505
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: handles like Ni Nikki dall, but I forget what is

506
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 1: like official?

507
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 3: Well, anyway, this guy, his sort of whole thing is

508
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 3: that he posts these slide shows of red carpet looks

509
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 3: and then it's like you made fun of this, and

510
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 3: it's like him being like hate it, love Okay, I

511
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 3: don't hate this. It's trash expensive, she looks fab So

512
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 3: there is so much out there that's like the comedy

513
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 3: equivalent of that, and it's just like your job is

514
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 3: to basically plug yourself in matrix style to whatever the

515
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 3: culture is talking about and like fire off opinions about

516
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 3: it so much so that I've seen like videos where

517
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 3: it's just facial reactions to something happening. It'll be like

518
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 3: the main video is, you know, a speech shut on

519
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 3: a word show or something, and then it's you basically

520
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 3: making a face to imply disgust or something.

521
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just like, oh, that's one of the worst.

522
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 3: That is something you do with your friends that that

523
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 3: does not need to be content. And so I think

524
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 3: and I think I would like expand that broadly speaking

525
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 3: to like it's okay to be reactive. Everyone wants to

526
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 3: comment on things happening, but then you have to like

527
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 3: add an opinion on top of that or like zoom

528
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 3: out or.

529
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Speaker 1: Something bring it into a broader context. I know what

530
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Speaker 1: you mean. Like a pet peeve is like when people

531
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 1: are so topical because they're trying to sort of get

532
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: like a viral clip.

533
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 3: And this is like what happened with the Timmy talking

534
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 3: about ballet thing. No one's heart was in it and

535
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 3: no one was offended by that statement. I mean, it's

536
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 3: just like, oh my god, amazing, this is a simple

537
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 3: black and white thing that we can all kind of

538
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 3: play with as though it's like a true toy that

539
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 3: was thrown into the dog pen that is like social media,

540
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 3: and it's like, well, you're being dishonest with me.

541
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Speaker 1: Everyone's being dishonest, you know what else.

542
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Speaker 3: I mean, I certainly don't like it when I'm seeing

543
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 3: a comedy show and there's a slide show and it's

544
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 3: just like an existing funny image that you have curated.

545
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think sometimes when language is too trendy. Yeah,

546
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 1: that really bothers me. If you're like using like too

547
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 1: many like internet catchphrases and just expecting that to be

548
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: you know, the joke that bothers me. The classics of course,

549
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: just saying stuff that people will agree with and like

550
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 1: on both sides of the political spectrum.

551
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Speaker 3: That's horrible and also easy targets. I'm kind of like,

552
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 3: if you're talking to a crowd of all people that

553
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 3: think exactly like you, and I'm saying things about myself

554
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 3: as well, and your target is Joe Rogan, it's like

555
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 3: that's not brave. Everyone in that crowd hates Joe Rogan

556
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 3: and that's fine and like good for them. Yeah, the

557
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 3: idea that you're being brave by like bringing him down

558
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 3: a peg is just false. That's all in your head.

559
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true.

560
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 8: I mean.

561
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Speaker 1: I also, I'm trying to think, like what else I hate?

562
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: I mean, there's plenty I hate. I guess.

563
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 4: You know.

564
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: It's funny.

565
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Speaker 3: I used to have so many really specific opinions about

566
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 3: what was hack and what wasn't in stand up comedy,

567
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 3: and now, because everything has been overtaken by TikTok creators,

568
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 3: I am so protective of stand up comedy as an

569
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 3: art from them. I'm like, even if you're being hacked,

570
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 3: at least you're doing it, Like, at least you're going

571
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 3: out talking to an audience. Every time I see someone

572
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 3: do stand up, even if they're truly bombing, I'm like,

573
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 3: good for you. You're keeping the dream alive. You could

574
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 3: be completely even if you are literally someone who's like

575
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 3: an Instagram native video creator. Okay, you're going on tour

576
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 3: and you're trying.

577
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: I feel exactly the same way. And also, anything can

578
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: be done well, yes, even if you're like, normally this

579
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: would suck, but they did it amazingly. I'm like, Okay, well,

580
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: good for you then, yeah, so so keep them laughing, folks,

581
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: laugh on folks. Yeah, I think we should bring back

582
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: catchphrase comedy. I think it's been too long.

583
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 3: Well I agree, But guess what, make your own catchphrase?

584
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 3: Because what you're like speaking an Internet lingual, and I

585
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 3: can see this you and I sometimes follow into it

586
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 3: because it's easy. I mean we're talking literally fifteen million

587
00:27:58,560 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 3: hours a week.

588
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, when we say it's ironic.

589
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 3: No, no, But even when it's ironic, like it's just

590
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 3: a shortcut, it's like a way to vamp while you

591
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 3: think of the next thing to say. But I do

592
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 3: like the idea of bringing back catchphrase comedy.

593
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: I think a good catchphrase could really go far. Right now,

594
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what it would be, but I think

595
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 1: it could go far. Oh this might be from the

596
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 1: same person. Okay, because the number is the same. Actually,

597
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 1: so huge.

598
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Speaker 6: Shout out guys.

599
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Speaker 8: I was wondering if you could let me know if

600
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:35,479
Speaker 8: having a birthday celebration or a pet is gay or straight.

601
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Speaker 8: Thank you so much.

602
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: This is very interesting and I could see it really

603
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: going both ways, because there's of course the sitcom trope

604
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: of like these crazy gay guys are having a birthday

605
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: party for their dog named tinker Bell completely and you're

606
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: sort of like, okay, like you're like, I'm laughing.

607
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 3: I mean, in Broad City, John Eurley and Elliott Glazer

608
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 3: play gay guys who have a wedding for.

609
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: Their dogs literally okay, yeah, And so I think there's that,

610
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: But then there's also something where like a straight couple

611
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: almost can use it to like dry run what it

612
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: would be like to have a child, And so they're like, well,

613
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Speaker 1: we let's like, how would we throw a birthday for

614
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: not us pet culture.

615
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 3: It's funny because Max texted us as anyone ever done pets,

616
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 3: and we of course didn't text them back.

617
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Speaker 1: But pets. We were busy.

618
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Speaker 3: We were It's true. I mean you were trying to sleep.

619
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Speaker 1: Were trying to sleep. If I started looking at my phone,

620
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Speaker 1: even though I was already looking at my phone, it

621
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Speaker 1: would no.

622
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Speaker 3: I mean we did nothing wrong, to be clear, but

623
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Speaker 3: I think that pet culture is one of those things

624
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 3: that like warps the gay straight binary.

625
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

626
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 3: There are so many layers to pet ownership and so

627
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 3: many ways in which it fucks with your brain that

628
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 3: I don't even know anymore if I can be like

629
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Speaker 3: even with like cats and dogs, for example, if someone

630
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 3: was like, gun to your head, which of some dogs

631
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 3: is gay and which one is straight? There's so many

632
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 3: arguments both ways. I mean, dog is straight and that

633
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 3: it's like man's best friend, and it's like the default,

634
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 3: and Cat is more alternative. But then Cat is so

635
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 3: like okay, like crazy cat lady. You think Cat is

636
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 3: just generally speaking of they've got too much tude, they've

637
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 3: got too much tood. But then you have like you

638
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 3: know the stereotype of like the gay guy having little

639
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 3: Chihuahua like dogs in little outfits, whereas Cat anyway, so

640
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 3: so throwing a birthday party for your pet, I'm gonna say,

641
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 3: gun to my head, I'm gonna say straight.

642
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: Really yeah, I love that.

643
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 3: How about you?

644
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: I guess straight maybe more so? What what is straight

645
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: to me also is like knowing when your pet is

646
00:30:54,720 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: born like gay for like yes, finds their dog like

647
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: it's a rescue. It's sort of like there's a blurred

648
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: line of like when they were that's born.

649
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 3: To know the birthday of your dog means that it's

650
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 3: not a rescue, and that's what makes it straight. I

651
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 3: would say, having like a bermtsvah for your dog is

652
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 3: more gay. Well, yes, it's doing your chart is gay?

653
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 3: I would say, yeah, Like, yeah, I think birthday is

654
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 3: such a default. It's so an imaginative. So I would

655
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 3: even say, wedding for a dog is gay. Any ceremony

656
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 3: that isn't a birthday is gay, but birthday is Straight's yeah?

657
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: I like that. Okay, Okay, great, Oh, here we go.

658
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Speaker 1: This one's a hard one.

659
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Speaker 6: Sam and George Nick one of your all time greatest

660
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 6: straight listeners here. Just wanted to give you a call.

661
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 6: I know you guys are big Pitchfork in the hipster

662
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 6: music guys. Curious what are your favorite bands in that world?

663
00:31:54,920 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 6: And what are the gayest and straightest Pitchfork hister type

664
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 6: dans love the show, Thank you guys.

665
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: Amazing question.

666
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 3: This is sort of one of those generational questions that

667
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 3: you know, we will we better not fuck this up.

668
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: I like that he labeled himself one of the all

669
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: time greatest straight listeners.

670
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess he knows something. We don't rank him.

671
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: Miss.

672
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 3: So I kind of pulled up and we don't have

673
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 3: to go through this one by one or anything, but

674
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 3: I pulled up the listener twenty ten Pitchfork listener, and

675
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 3: I was just going to read some names at you and

676
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 3: then we can I can put my phone away and

677
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 3: then we can have a conversation, right all right. The

678
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 3: National Arcade, Fire, Beach House, LCD Sound System, Sleigh Bells,

679
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 3: Vampire Weekend, Titus Andronicus, Flying Lotus, Black Keys, Caribou, Crystal

680
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 3: Castle's Local Natives Team and Paula Best Coast MGMT. Broken

681
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 3: Social Scene, Gaysayer, Foles, Toroy, Moam, Mumford and Sons, Oh Baths,

682
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 3: Shout Out, Shout Out. But not a band, unfortunately, And

683
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 3: I mean, let's see what could we add to that?

684
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: Well, just to like feel it out. I'm sort of

685
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: like it's hard not to get like literal with it.

686
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: I'm trying to like think outside the box.

687
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 3: Let's start simple. Arcade Fire see to me.

688
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: To me, they are obviously like straight, yeah, but at

689
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: the same time they were like, well they're kind of

690
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: like Portland straight, and they were like banging on every

691
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: little thing they could find and being like, look how

692
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: crazy we are.

693
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 6: Yeah.

694
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 3: They exist in contrast to the default rock band that

695
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 3: is like five guys and it's like guitar, drums, bass, keyboard, whatever.

696
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 3: They are like, there's so many of them and they

697
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 3: come and go and it's very There's something sort of

698
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 3: polyhemorous about the whole ethos.

699
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: Which is interesting because I I kind of feel like

700
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: Broken Social Scene is a little more LGBTQ. Plus I

701
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: agree there's one sex.

702
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 3: Positive sex positive Canadian.

703
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: Lover or spit well. Arcade Fire is also Oh that's right. Fuck.

704
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: But that's why I think they're good comps to each other.

705
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I agree. No, I definitely think Broken Social

706
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 3: Scene is gay, Arcade Fire is straight. Yeah, if we

707
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 3: can go down that.

708
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: Road, and then I think, where do you think animal

709
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: Collective stands? See?

710
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 3: Animal Collective to me is one animal collective I've never

711
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 3: gotten into. I really, Animal Collective to me is the

712
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 3: album cover. That is the optical illusion. That's all I

713
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 3: think about. And I just know that album cover.

714
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: Wow.

715
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 3: I think it's such a like Pitchfork punchline. Yeah, that

716
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 3: I'm inclined to say straight just because of what their

717
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 3: reputation is.

718
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I do think they're tough. I think they're

719
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: they do count as straight because it's like only straight

720
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: guys have like a certain of confidence where you're like

721
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 1: allowed to like really fuck off.

722
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

723
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: I saw them at a shout out to Pitchfork Festival

724
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: in whatever year that was, and they played no songs

725
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 1: you recognize really truly, like only new stuff from an album.

726
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: That hadn't come out yet, and then like maybe towards

727
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: the end, they played one song that you knew but

728
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: not like one of the big ones, and I was like, damn,

729
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: these guys are really leaning in and they were like headliners.

730
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 3: So maybe it's that they reached a pin when they

731
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 3: were at their peak that was like straight.

732
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's sort of.

733
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 3: But then but they're getting back to their roots.

734
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I like that they all have little nicknames.

735
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: That's a little gay of them.

736
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:44,479
Speaker 2: M hmmm.

737
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 3: This is like how when MGMT performed at my university,

738
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 3: they refused to do kids.

739
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: Really, yes, did you guys? Riot?

740
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 3: It was like a big It was like known that

741
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 3: at the time they were in performing kids.

742
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: Oh se you expect some people, And did people people

743
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: like respect or were they like fuck them?

744
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 3: I just think it was more so like no one

745
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 3: new enough to like. Everyone was just excited there was

746
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 3: a band performing, you know what I mean, Like yeah,

747
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 3: which was sort of even more sad, and you could

748
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 3: tell that for them this was not the gig they

749
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 3: wanted to be doing. I'm sure it paid better because

750
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 3: it was a college show, but I'm trying to think,

751
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 3: I mean, a okay, Vampire Weekend, that's like a foundational

752
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 3: one that we have to address.

753
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: I would go gay, and not to put it all

754
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: on Rawstom, but because well.

755
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 3: It's certainly rastam but there's also they many of these

756
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 3: bands have a sense of irony. I'm not saying they're

757
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 3: the only ones that have a sense of irony.

758
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: But they have a sense of camp they do.

759
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 3: Vampire Weekend has all from the beginning has been campy.

760
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little preppy thing.

761
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 3: I would say on a personal level, Beach House is

762
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 3: very gay to me. I mean it's so like sensitive

763
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 3: gay guy.

764
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: No, well to me, it's a bit you know my

765
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: I love them, Yeah, I love them. Yeah, but to

766
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: me it's so like palatable. Really yeah, that's true.

767
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 3: It's very like it goes from album immediately to soundtrack

768
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 3: of like an HBO show.

769
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, and they like never let you in.

770
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 3: But I think that's what's gay about it. It's like

771
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 3: gay guy that has bangs on one of his over

772
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 3: one of his eyes. That's like, you don't get me.

773
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: I can see that. I can see that.

774
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of other big of other big Do.

775
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 1: You remember the band Girls of course, and they were

776
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: so like they had the music video for their song

777
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: that was like explicit where the one guy was like

778
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: singing into a dick and it was like, whoa, this

779
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: is so crazy and then meanwhile he's just like married

780
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: to a woman.

781
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 3: Now I know. Well girls, That's the thing is like

782
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 3: the ones that have persevered and become mainstream are obviously,

783
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 3: by definition, the less you know, provocative ones, and you

784
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 3: forget that there was a part of the Pitchfork era

785
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 3: that was way more subversive than like what made it out. Yeah,

786
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 3: it wasn't all Arcade Fire and Vampire Weekend.

787
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Oh my.

788
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 3: God, remember das Racist?

789
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: Oh god, Yeah, I was obsessed with them.

790
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 3: Now that's crazy.

791
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: I was obsessed. This is it's like, we actually can't

792
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: talk about this era of Pitchfork because it's like too nostalgic.

793
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 3: It's too nostalgic.

794
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 1: It kind of hurts to hear I'm being held back

795
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: from being like I saw Titist and Dronicus in college.

796
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: I had a four loco and.

797
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 3: Well, hello, it's kind of like, how I know one

798
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 3: of the members of you say, I talk about her

799
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 3: all the time. I've had dinner with him in the

800
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 3: last calendar year.

801
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: Okay, we have to move on.

802
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 10: Yeah.

803
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: I actually was friends with one of the guitarists from

804
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: Tis Drona I guess, so it's kind of complicated.

805
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 3: And I also I've been to his house. I met

806
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 3: someone from Portugal the man.

807
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: But we talk about it, so we have to move on. Okay.

808
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: I just want to say I love local natives.

809
00:38:55,560 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 11: I don't have a relationship with them.

810
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 10: Hi, Sam and George. I was just calling. It's the

811
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 10: day after the Oscars, and I desperately need to know

812
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 10: how you guys feel about the HIM crew to Oscar

813
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 10: recipient Pipeline Paul Thomas Anderson famously works with behind Gurlees

814
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 10: got his got multiple Oscars, and the woman who won

815
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 10: for Cinematography, Autumn I'm forgetting her last name, apparently, according

816
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 10: to the Internet, also worked with him. Yeah, big day

817
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 10: for him crew to receive Oscars and I would just

818
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 10: love to hear what you guys have to say about that.

819
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 10: I also want to know of the Oscar awards that

820
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 10: Paul Thomas Anderson did receive. I think he got three Editing, Directing,

821
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 10: and Best Picture. Which one is SD, which one's a Lana,

822
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 10: and which one's Danielle. Thank you, Love you bye.

823
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 3: See, that's what it's all about. That's literally why I'm

824
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 3: gonna cry. That's why we do this, to be asked editing,

825
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 3: directing and best Picture? Which which one is st which

826
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 3: one is Alana and which one is Danielle. That's why

827
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 3: I get out of bed in the morning.

828
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially with that kind of gig guye voice.

829
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I love those phenomenal. I want to

830
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 3: say first of all that the casting director that won

831
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 3: the first ever casting Oscar is great American.

832
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 1: Really Yeah, so shout out to her. Yeah, that's awesome.

833
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: She really accepted that award with this is so by

834
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: the time this comes out, the Oscars will be so

835
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: forgotten it doesn't matter. But the way that she accepted

836
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: that award was so nonchalant.

837
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 3: It was amazing.

838
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: You would you would think she was like accepting like

839
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: her door dash order.

840
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: Well, she has this vibe of like, Okay, I have

841
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 3: another meeting after this? What is this one about?

842
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 4: Yeah?

843
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 3: And I love Paul is great. He's fabulous. We love

844
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 3: his voice. Like it's just it's it's la woman that

845
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 3: has fifteen meetings per day.

846
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: It's like, God, do you guys have enough stairs to

847
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 1: get up to this damn podium, I swear.

848
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 3: And it's like she just as a professional and it legitimate.

849
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure it's an honor that she won

850
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 3: the Oscar, but she's like onto the next Like I'm

851
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 3: sure she's in the middle of like some very very

852
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 3: tense back and forth with Jennifer Lawrence's people.

853
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the emails that that woman must deal

854
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 1: with every single day. I can't imagine. Like some people,

855
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on politically by the time

856
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: this comes out, but this woman deals with so much.

857
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 3: Can you imagine casting one battle after another. You're back

858
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 3: and forth with Alana him, You're back and forth with

859
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 3: Towna Taylor, You're back and forth with Leo's people. They

860
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 3: can't be fun to deal with.

861
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: No, I mean, this is I think I said this

862
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: on Friday, but I'm gonna repeat myself. But I'm like

863
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: the fact that, like Euphoria season three, they all were

864
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: able to show up at the same time is like

865
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: the most impressive. I'm like, give them an award. They

866
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: showed it up.

867
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 3: There still isn't the proof that they did, but I hope,

868
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 3: I hope that, I hope you're right that's true. Okay,

869
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 3: So editing, directing best picture. So editing, directing, producing are

870
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 3: the three things basically.

871
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: That's what we're counting as best Picture. Okay.

872
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 3: So you think it should be like Best Picture as

873
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 3: a concept. It should be like the awards as concepts.

874
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, I think best Picture.

875
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 3: It's tough.

876
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: I here's it here? Okay. I think editing might be

877
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: Danielle whoa like there's something where she's like in it.

878
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 3: She's the raw files and it's up to her to

879
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 3: make an album. Yes, you think it's more that then

880
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 3: she has the concept in mind? You know what I mean?

881
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 1: Like director?

882
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 3: Is it that SD is more conceptual? Because she has

883
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 3: a phdn f the musicology, which is something I don't

884
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 3: bring up often, but it is a fact I know

885
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,479
Speaker 3: from UCLA. So is SD.

886
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: So you're saying ST's editing?

887
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 7: Is she?

888
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 3: Maybe ST's editing? We don't know. We think of st

889
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 3: as the comedian, but maybe we've been underestimating her this

890
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:12,919
Speaker 3: whole time.

891
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 1: And she has a degree.

892
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 3: She has a degree a PhD.

893
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: Does you see la? I mean nothing? Is that what

894
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: you said?

895
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 2: Yes?

896
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 3: UCLA or USD. I'm not going to look it up.

897
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's UCLA though, Cali College, Cali College.

898
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: She went to Cal Arts and studied sculpture and the

899
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: performance art.

900
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 3: So I think that I'm I almost want.

901
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: To say.

902
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 3: St is editing, Alana is best picture. Danielle is directing,

903
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 3: because Alana is sort of like the face. She's like

904
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 3: the she's the movie star of the operation, right, and

905
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 3: she's if there's one of them, that's going to be

906
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 3: like solo sitting on the couch with Fallin, you know,

907
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 3: while he's like, so you made a movie that's crazy.

908
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 1: It's crazy. You made a movie. You made a movie

909
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: that's crazy.

910
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 3: So when you were filming it, that's so crazy you

911
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,720
Speaker 3: did that. It's going to be Alana.

912
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,240
Speaker 1: That was an amazing impression.

913
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 3: Thank you.

914
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: You didn't ever tell me, you just had that.

915
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 3: It's one of my secrets that I like to pull

916
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 3: out sometimes.

917
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: That was scary. Well, I completely agree with you. Let's

918
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: go to the next call.

919
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 9: Hi, Sam and George. This is Shavani. First of all,

920
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 9: I just want to say thank you for all of

921
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 9: your work, both Stradio LAD and everything else going and

922
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 9: I really Second of all, Sam, I just want to

923
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 9: say that when you said that you wanted to get

924
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 9: married without being engaged. It literally cured me. I literally

925
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 9: didn't know it was possible to get married without being engaged,

926
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 9: and the concept of being engaged horrifies me. So when

927
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 9: I found out that it was possible, I was able

928
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 9: to actually plan a New York City hall wedding for

929
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 9: next month to get straight married, and I'm really excited.

930
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 9: So again, thank you for that really changed my life. Okay,

931
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 9: so my question is last month I was on a

932
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 9: group trip with like four straight couples and we kind

933
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 9: of discovered that every like man like straight man in

934
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 9: the group as a plan of where they would go,

935
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 9: Like when we there, like gorgeous wives inevitably kicked them

936
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 9: out of the house, like they've literally all thought about

937
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 9: this as kind of like second nature. They had an answer.

938
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 9: They were like, I'm going to like this place, my

939
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 9: friend's basement, Like of course, you have to have a plan,

940
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 9: and like none of the women in the group had

941
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 9: ever even once like thought about this before. I didn't

942
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 9: even know. I was like, wait, what, like why would

943
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 9: I think about that? Yeah, so I just thought that

944
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 9: was interesting, kind of like a new straight dynamic I

945
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 9: discovered that day. Yeah, my question is basically just do

946
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 9: gay guys have this too, or is this like a

947
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 9: completely heterosexual thing? Like, do you guys know where you

948
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 9: would go if you got kicked out of your house?

949
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 9: Do other people talk about this in the gay community. Yeah,

950
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 9: so that's my question. Love you guys, Thank you bye.

951
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 1: I know where I'd go?

952
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 12: Zibelite, No, you are so unseerious, you are so unserious.

953
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: I think this is such a This is interesting. It's

954
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: sort of microdosing like doomsday prepping completely. I think there

955
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:49,720
Speaker 1: is something that straight guys like to imagine the worst

956
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: and like sort of draw that out, but at the

957
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 1: same time they also in the same way doomsday prepping

958
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 1: kind of like to fantasize about the worst.

959
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 3: It's complicated, it's such a it's such a trope that

960
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 3: I'm so glad we're talking about because I had never

961
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 3: thought about it before. But the trope of the husband

962
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 3: being quote kicked out, like, it's never the wife being

963
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 3: kicked out. That's the imbalance that we're talking about here.

964
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 3: It's like, if there is a divorce or a breakup,

965
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 3: usually it's like, hey, he's trash, and then the man

966
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 3: is kicked out, and then of course there's a stereotype

967
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 3: of like the depressing divorced guy apartment that's like you know,

968
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 3: in some new building and there's like a neighbor and

969
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 3: the elevator isn't working, and he tries to put like

970
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 3: one Selena Gomez post rup for his daughter, but she's like, it's.

971
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 1: Not the same. Yeah, I haven't liked her for ten years.

972
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think that it is. It's interesting because

973
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 3: what's sort of inherently kind of sad about it is

974
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 3: like the guy does do all this work to figure

975
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 3: it out, but it's never enough. You know, give him

976
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 3: some credit. He has had to find an apartment, he

977
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 3: has had to like furnish it in like a week's time,

978
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 3: Like he's trying. Even I'm talking about like the best

979
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 3: case scenario, and he still is going to be seen

980
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 3: as like I don't want to go to Dad's, of course,

981
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 3: But I do think it's interesting to think about it

982
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 3: in advance. I must say, this is certainly not something

983
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 3: I have ever thought of in my years of cohabitation.

984
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: It has never struck my mind. But I don't know.

985
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I've never talked to other gay guys about this,

986
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: if they have a plan.

987
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 3: I've never I mean, I think it's more general of

988
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 3: like housing is so precarious in New York that there

989
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,240
Speaker 3: is that Sometimes I'm like, if we could no longer

990
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 3: live in our current apartment, where could we go? What

991
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 3: could this amount of money get us? Like blahlah blah.

992
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 3: And I mean now that I'm married, not so much,

993
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 3: but in the beginning of a relationship or in the

994
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 3: beginning of cohabitation, I do remember feeling like, well, think, oh,

995
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 3: there's two of us, because like with based on how

996
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 3: much money I have to spend right now, I would

997
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 3: not be able to find a one bedroom.

998
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean for sure. I yeah, this is

999
00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: a very interesting like it's kind of a bleak picture.

1000
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 3: Well, of course, but I it's complicated because so the

1001
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 3: man is thinking about where he's going to escape to. Yeah,

1002
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 3: I think again, we're thinking about sort of like a default,

1003
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 3: you know, straight cup with two kids or something. I

1004
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 3: think the woman is thinking, like what will happen with

1005
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 3: the kids?

1006
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: Sure, It's like.

1007
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 3: The man is thinking, Okay, I'll go to my boy's place,

1008
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 3: and the woman is being like, oh my god, like

1009
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 3: will they have to change schools? Like do I you

1010
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 3: know what? How do I make it so that their

1011
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 3: lives are not impacted by the divorce. She's having like

1012
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 3: deeper questions than just what apartment I'm going to live in.

1013
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an interesting like this is where our research fails,

1014
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: where I'm like, oh, we like actually don't have close

1015
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: enough relationships to groups of straight men to know this culture.

1016
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: The fact that this is a surprise to me, Yeah,

1017
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: is like a little scary, Like I'm like, I thought

1018
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: I knew. I thought I knew straight guys they all

1019
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: have secret plans and where they'll go. I guess not

1020
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: that secret, but.

1021
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 3: The it is something I haven't thought about. The planning

1022
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 3: something I have thought about recently, because I do know

1023
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 3: people getting divorced is huge. How think you is? How?

1024
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 3: And this is something that is such a big trope

1025
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 3: on film and TV. But I sort of, for some reason,

1026
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 3: thought it wasn't real in real life.

1027
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: But like, guy, like, divorced guys in their forties clean up,

1028
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you don't have to be attractive, you don't

1029
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 1: you barely have to be employed, whereas, of course, divorce

1030
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: women in their forties. It's like, oh no, what, like

1031
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: this is such an awkward age to be, you know,

1032
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: like to be online dating to be not not awkward age.

1033
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 3: I don't want to be ages, but just like to

1034
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 3: be a divorce a is like complicated, like you have

1035
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 3: to go all the way. You have to be like

1036
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 3: either I'm I'm glamorous wearing a fur and a body

1037
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 3: suit underneath, or I'm being like I'm an adult and

1038
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 3: I go into every day being like, okay, here are

1039
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 3: my five non negotiables.

1040
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: Yeah well yeah, men like in that position get like

1041
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: a there's already a narrative. Yes exactly, it's like very easy.

1042
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 3: And you're in fact desirable.

1043
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:20,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1044
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 3: Literally, I know women are age where like I want

1045
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:24,959
Speaker 3: a divorced guy.

1046
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: What is that? What's their reasoning?

1047
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 3: I think their reasoning is I worry that I'm that

1048
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 3: things were saying or like offending listeners or people that

1049
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 3: are people that are fitting into these categories. But I

1050
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 3: think from what I understand based on women, I know

1051
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 3: then the desire for a divorce guy is that Let's

1052
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 3: say a guy's forty seven has never been married. That's

1053
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 3: quote unquote a bad sign because he's never made it work.

1054
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 3: Where's a guy who's forty seven and divorced, Okay, like

1055
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 3: it might have not worked out, but he was able

1056
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 3: to have a long term relationship. Like you know, he's housetrained,

1057
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 3: he's house trained. Yes, yeah, and there was a marriage

1058
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 3: is a sign of adulthood, even if it ends in divorce.

1059
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 3: Like he has done the thing you're supposed to do,

1060
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 3: and of course it happens like maybe they grew apart,

1061
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,240
Speaker 3: maybe they fell out of love, maybe someone cheated, whatever,

1062
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 3: but like he has done it. Whereas a forty seven

1063
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 3: year old bachelor, you're like, wait, so you've never had

1064
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 3: to like share space with anyone.

1065
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, going through a divorce. I'm like, you

1066
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: must be so good at paperwork. That's a really good

1067
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: fun I couldn't. I couldn't get a divorce if I

1068
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: tried stress me out be a full time job. Okay,

1069
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: next call. I'm actually so proud of myself for being

1070
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 1: able to play the calls.

1071
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 7: Longtime Glamor Girl, first time caller. I was actually the

1072
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 7: brave soul who admitted to a sold out Bell House

1073
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 7: show that I was a straight woman and someone who

1074
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:57,439
Speaker 7: had asked heated rivalry. I just want to thank you

1075
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,879
Speaker 7: both for being so nice to me. I was far

1076
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 7: too afraid to speak up the first time I would

1077
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 7: never take away the spotlight from the icon the legend,

1078
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 7: Patti Harrison. But when you asked the second time, I

1079
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 7: believe you when.

1080
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 10: You said you'd be respectful.

1081
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 7: I just want to say I love the pod. What

1082
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 7: you guys do for culture, language, irony, and humor is

1083
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 7: absolutely the best. Xoxo jess Or who's that girl?

1084
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 3: It's all right, I forgot about our back and forth.

1085
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: So basically, we invented irony and I'm really proud of.

1086
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 3: Us, and I think it has it's going really well.

1087
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: It's going really well. No one's using it for evil

1088
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 1: and then no one ever will. And thank you for

1089
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: being an active participant in our live show. We are

1090
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Speaker 1: so respectful of our audience members. Everyone should take note

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00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: and participate when we ask them to. And to be honest,

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Speaker 1: I didn't mean to play that call, but but you

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Speaker 1: know I did, and I just let it run, and

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Speaker 1: so I.

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Speaker 3: Was playing praise like we don't usually do.

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Speaker 1: We meant to cut it, and I forgot, but we

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Speaker 1: did play it.

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Speaker 3: We meant to cut it, only we're keeping this in

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Speaker 3: by the way. We meant to cut it, just because

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Speaker 3: it feels sort of self congratulatory to play such a

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Speaker 3: positive call with no question, not because we don't like Jens.

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Speaker 1: No, it's beautiful and we appreciate it. And it's honestly

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Speaker 1: funny that right before I played it, I said, I

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Speaker 1: can't believe I'm doing such a good job playing the calls,

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Speaker 1: and then I played the wrong one. But it was

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Speaker 1: right in all the right ways, right in all the

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Speaker 1: right ways.

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Speaker 3: Jess. You know, we asked, are there any straight women

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00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 3: here who love heated rivalry? But because that's such a

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00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 3: like aggressive question, no one spoke up. Yeah, And then

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00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 3: Jess finally was like, you know what, I have to

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Speaker 3: speak my truth, raise your hand, and.

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Speaker 1: It was great. Okay, here's the call I mean to play.

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Speaker 2: Hi, gay guys, longtime listener, longtime caller. I am calling

1115
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Speaker 2: because I don't know where else to go with this.

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00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 2: But I basically just left the New York City for

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00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,919
Speaker 2: the first time, and I went incidentally on the Gay Day,

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00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 2: and I am gay, but I feel like I've left

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00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 2: feeling more homophobic than I ever have because it was

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Speaker 2: my first experience, just like gay cruising culture, and so

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Speaker 2: I wanted to hear your girl's thoughts on cruising, how

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00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 2: what experiences you've had, But that in the past, what

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Speaker 2: it makes you feel about the gay community, because the

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00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 2: light is feeling very dim to me right now. But

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Speaker 2: now I'm going to Julius to pirk my spirits, so

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Speaker 2: it'll be okay, thank you, love you.

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Speaker 3: So we will be bleeping the name of the establishment

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Speaker 3: this ye please bleep. But all you listeners need to

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Speaker 3: know is that there is a sauna like space in

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Speaker 3: the New York Tri State area and there are certain

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Speaker 3: times when it's men only, and those times are known

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Speaker 3: for being cruisy, which means that you can be sort

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Speaker 3: of cruised.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish you had elaborated caller on what dimmed

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00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 1: your light? Yeah, because I'm that can mean so many things.

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Speaker 1: I would say that in this particular sauna type space

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00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 1: in the Tri State area, I think it can be

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Speaker 1: quite overwhelming on those days because in the last five

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00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 1: years the place has become like a spot. And it

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00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: used to be like kind of like if you know,

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00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: you know, and now it's like not a secret in

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Speaker 1: any way, shape or form. It feels like being on

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00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,919
Speaker 1: the subway. When you're in there, it's so crowded and

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00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: it's not like I also don't find it fun, like

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Speaker 1: I've only been once in the last four.

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Speaker 3: Years, so I have never been, and it is one

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00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 3: of those things that I've obviously been hearing about for

1148
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 3: I don't know, over a decade, and it reminds me

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00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 3: of when I was in my early twenties living in

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Speaker 3: San Francisco and people were going to Burning Man and

1151
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, like this is obviously

1152
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 3: a little eye ROLLI, but I want to experience it once.

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00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 3: And then the years kept passing and passing and passing,

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00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 3: and Burning Man kept getting obviously more and more awful,

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00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 3: and then it got to the point where I was like, well,

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00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 3: I guess I'm not doing this and I feel fine

1157
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 3: about it. That's sort of how I feel about this

1158
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 3: place where I'm kind of like maybe I just missed

1159
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 3: the Golden era and I will have to be okay

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00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,479
Speaker 3: with that, Like rather than going now just to say

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Speaker 3: I've gone.

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Speaker 1: Pre pandemic, it was like kind of unknown or not unknown.

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Speaker 1: People knew, but it was like it wasn't so trendy

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Speaker 1: as like a thing. Then the one time I've been

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Speaker 1: in the last four or five years, like Misha and

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Speaker 1: I went, and it it's like also just a saana

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00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: space and you're like it's supposed to be like subtleish

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Speaker 1: if there is cruising, but it was so packed and

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00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: we were like, what is going on? And we saw

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00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: someone we knew there and we were like, why is

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00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,919
Speaker 1: it so crowded and he was like, oh, because Choice

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Speaker 1: Avon was here yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Well, I have to say, they also don't do themselves

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Speaker 3: any favors. There's actually a good I mean, now we're

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00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 3: there's a Times article about this that's literally about the

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Speaker 3: power struggle between the one of the owners and the

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Speaker 3: son of the other one that he's got it, and

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00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 3: so the son of the one that has taken over

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Speaker 3: wants it to be wants it to appeal to a

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Speaker 3: younger crowd and like runs the Instagram, and the Instagram

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00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 3: sometimes does feature celebrities. Yeah, and it is an interesting

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00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 3: it's an interesting give and take because you're like, on

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Speaker 3: the one hand, obviously business wise is making a good decision,

1184
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 3: Like if the old clientele, you know, dies off, like

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Speaker 3: you want the choice of ons of the world to

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Speaker 3: be coming, but then suddenly you know you're running a

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Speaker 3: sort of Soho house type business.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot and I generally on the cruising front,

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Speaker 1: I think it's better when it's more tasteful, like when

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Speaker 1: it's like more subtle and more nuanced.

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Speaker 3: I agree, I just I maybe I'm just old fashioned,

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00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 3: But to me, I'm like a gay bar is still

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00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 3: like a good, diverse, well curated gay bar is always

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00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 3: going to be my favorite space to like meet someone,

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00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 3: flirt with someone, you know, kind of go around, do

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Speaker 3: the rounds and see what's going on, like I And

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Speaker 3: I think that also has to do with the privilege

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Speaker 3: of the time we live in, like because you can

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Speaker 3: do that out in the open and you don't have

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Speaker 3: to go into the woods. I obviously understand people romanticizing

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00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 3: and fetish cruising, like I completely get it, and I

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Speaker 3: in no way I want to stigmatize it. But I

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Speaker 3: think I think for me, I'm I love being in

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Speaker 3: a bar.

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Speaker 1: I have to tell this story of there's a sauna

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Speaker 1: like space in the southern California area.

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Speaker 3: Oh interesting, I wonder what city that.

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01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: Is known for having some LGBTQ plus clientele. Oh interesting,

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01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 1: that love to mingle in certain ways. Cool, But the

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Speaker 1: manager of this place like makes me die laughing because

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01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: he like is clearly gay, but he kind of has

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Speaker 1: to put on a show about like stop that, so

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Speaker 1: he'll walk into the steam room and be like, are

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Speaker 1: you guys serious? Seriously, you guys stop? Do you think

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01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: I'm stupid?

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Speaker 3: And that's like his life every single day, every day.

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01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 3: Like you're seeing that like once every six months when

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Speaker 3: you go, but that's him every day, and every day

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01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 3: he has to like be like, okay, like really sell

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Speaker 3: it this time?

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Speaker 1: Do you think I'm stupid? I love it? I love it.

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Speaker 1: It's so funny. And then he'll just be like chit

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Speaker 1: chatting with like the regulars. Yeah, and You're like, okay,

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01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: so you whatever. It's confusing.

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Speaker 3: Saunas are interesting in the sort of gayer straight spectrum too,

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Speaker 3: because there are so many that are super straight, like yeah,

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Speaker 3: there are like are new ones that are sort of

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Speaker 3: like VC funded, like Bathhouse and your is so kind

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01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 3: of West Village Girl, finance bro coded, or even just

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01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 3: like a if you think about like a really expensive

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Speaker 3: spa or something that's very like Gwyneth Paltrow, it really

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Speaker 3: can completely run the gamut.

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Speaker 1: You've got to find the right one for you and

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Speaker 1: your wants.

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Speaker 13: Hi, George and Sam, I am calling from Baltimore and

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Speaker 13: I have a question for you guys to ponder So

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Speaker 13: I love funny people, and I know that you guys

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Speaker 13: are very funny and you're both comedians, but I don't

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Speaker 13: always love stand up.

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Speaker 14: And it's so funny because like stand up is kind

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01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 14: of considered like the quintessential comedy art form, and I'm

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01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 14: obsessed with comedian and I love them in conversations, in interviews, podcasts,

1243
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 14: anytime they're bantering all that. But once it's a formal set,

1244
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 14: like in the style of stand up, I find that

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01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 14: I really have trouble connecting with it. I get bored.

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01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 14: And this happens even with people that I think are

1247
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 14: completely brilliant. So my question for you is, is there

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Speaker 14: a way to kind of learn how to watch stand

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01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 14: up differently so that I can appreciate it more. What

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01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 14: do you think I might be missing here? Are some

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01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 14: people just not meant to get stand up? And if

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01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 14: some people just don't connect with it, why do we

1253
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 14: consider it like the quintessential comedy art form. Would love

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Speaker 14: to hear your answer. Thanks so much, bye.

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Speaker 3: Now this is interesting. I was interested in this and

1256
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 3: this is very true. Yes, and I by the way

1257
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 3: I get.

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01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: It, I get it bad.

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01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 3: You have to really like be in the zone first

1260
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 3: of all, frankly, you have to grow up with it.

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01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 3: Can you imagine discovering stand up as like a thirty

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Speaker 3: year old.

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01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 1: I mean to be honest, growing up, like stand up

1264
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: was not the thing that spoke to me interesting. It

1265
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 1: was more I was way more interested in sketch and

1266
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 1: like character stuff.

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01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 3: Okay interesting, but then it was more like.

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01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: The infrastructure of comedy where I was like, well, I'm

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01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 1: not like I can't go through the school like I'm

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01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: gonna do stand up, Like I learned that like all

1271
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 1: stand up you can kind of do whatever.

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01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you don't need props or a team exactly,

1273
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 3: a theater exactly interesting I was. I was a huge

1274
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 3: sort of like stand up nerd, even in like the

1275
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 3: straight way, Like I was really like George carl and

1276
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 3: Richard Pryor, like I knew the basics and was like

1277
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 3: really into And then of course I discovered Joan Rivers

1278
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 3: and I discovered the more gay stuff. But I think

1279
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 3: that I was making this comparison recently, like stand up

1280
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 3: can be alienating in the same way that fashion can

1281
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 3: be alienating, Like if you know nothing about fashion and

1282
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 3: you see photos from a runway show, let's say two

1283
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 3: runway shows, and one of them is supposed to be good,

1284
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 3: one of them is supposed to be bad. You're looking

1285
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 3: at it and you're like, well, all of them look stupid,

1286
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 3: Like I don't know the vocabulary here, so I'm just

1287
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 3: seeing people wearing like crazy like weird feathers.

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01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 1: Right, why is that one?

1289
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 10: Really?

1290
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 3: Why is that one?

1291
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 1: And that one exactly hated?

1292
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 3: And I think it is a language you have to learn.

1293
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 3: And oftentimes you'll see someone that is referred to as

1294
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 3: like a master of the craft, but you'll be like, wait,

1295
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 3: but it's corny to me.

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01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 1: I think something also is like it is like visually

1297
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 1: boring as fuck, Like it's just a person standing there.

1298
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 1: Like if you're like at a live show, there's like

1299
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 1: the added element of like I'm here and I'm witnessing it,

1300
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 1: and there's tenseness here.

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01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 3: Well this is the thing.

1302
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 1: And but if it's a film stand up thing, it

1303
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Speaker 1: is like this is tough to make it, like, especially

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Speaker 1: if you don't automatically like love the person or care deeply.

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Speaker 1: It's like, how do you get them to like sit

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Speaker 1: there for an hour and watch you stand on a

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Speaker 1: stage with nothing?

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Speaker 3: Basically I I We've said this before, but stand up

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Speaker 3: just is a live art form. I think so often

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Speaker 3: people will say I don't I don't like stand up.

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Speaker 3: I don't get it, and then you'll be like have

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Speaker 3: you ever gone to a stand up show? And they'll

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Speaker 3: be like no, but I've just like tried watching Comedy Central. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it is a completely different. It's like only watching We've

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Speaker 3: had this conversation before, but it's like only watching taped

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Speaker 3: plays or something and you're like, I don't really get Shakespeare, Like, well, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you gotta see it on stage.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 1: It's also there's something I'm like when people like it'd

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Speaker 1: be like watching a podcast and being like, why am

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Speaker 1: I bored? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like you're supposed to be chopping vegetables.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's supposed to be like like I think if

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Speaker 1: you don't if like a stand up set isn't clicking,

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Speaker 1: or like watching a special isn't clicking, Like listen to

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Speaker 1: it as you're like driving. I think that is a fun.

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Speaker 1: That's like the way that I liked stand up growing up.

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Speaker 1: Oh interesting is like hearing albums.

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Speaker 3: I mean I did used to listen to They used

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Speaker 3: to tape some stand up shows and release them as podcasts,

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Speaker 3: like actually, I remember Cameron's Posiito and River Butcher used

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Speaker 3: to do that with their UCP show, And that's like

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Speaker 3: the first place I ever heard caepe ber Land. That's

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Speaker 3: the first place I ever heard like just people that

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Speaker 3: now probably like Gabe Leadman, like people like alt La,

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Speaker 3: people ten to fifteen years ago that I you know,

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Speaker 3: I later met, but like I and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: this is then I knew what to expect when going

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Speaker 3: into a comedy show. I didn't even know what the

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Speaker 3: concept of a lineup was. Like you go to a

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Speaker 3: comedy show, it's there's a sort of there's lineup of comedians.

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Speaker 3: The order might change. It's not like it's not always

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Speaker 3: like super intensely curated. Someone might drop in, the host

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Speaker 3: might decide to like do seventeen minutes out of nowhere

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Speaker 3: in the middle of the show. There might be a

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Speaker 3: disturbance in the crowd, so you have to address that.

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Speaker 3: It's the excitement of it is not knowing what's going

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Speaker 3: to happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so much more fun live, and as is

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Speaker 1: music often Okay, no, no, you're right, just try the.

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Speaker 3: Music is more complicated because actually that sometimes there literally

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Speaker 3: are musicians that are better listening to the album. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but I don't actually think that's true for any stand

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Speaker 3: ups in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: Now, no, no, But what.

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Speaker 3: Would you tell someone that's like, how do I get

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Speaker 3: into stand up?

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Speaker 1: I do think listen do audio only?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Interesting me my hot tip because they say they like

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Speaker 1: stuff like even when it's comedians, they really like it

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Speaker 1: doesn't work. So I'm like, I think it's the like

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Speaker 1: needing to focus.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's the form You're like, you're like, why isn't working?

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Speaker 3: Wise is the wrisk? You can you can make it

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Speaker 3: into podcast, which.

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Speaker 1: Makes what we already like, yeah, and then you'll have fun.

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Speaker 3: Well I love that.

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Speaker 1: Well, Well, officially we are ending.

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Speaker 3: We are ending. Thank you so much for all your calls.

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Speaker 1: And in calls anytime at three o'clock anytime, and we

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Speaker 1: do look through all of them. When we're going to record.

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Speaker 3: We look through that's right, we look through all of them.

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Speaker 3: We just sometimes post last minute in case someone has

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Speaker 3: any super topical questions, but we're always listening to all

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Speaker 3: the calls. We really appreciate the ones that are very

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Speaker 3: complimentary but don't contain questions, and we treasure them. But

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Speaker 3: we think it would be importaste to play them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, except for the one that I played, Except.

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Speaker 3: For the one that you played, which was obviously a

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Speaker 3: complete and utter sleigh. So thank you for everything, and

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Speaker 3: thank you for listening, and we love you. Bye bye

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Speaker 3: podcast and now for our visual learners. You can watch

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Speaker 3: full video episodes on our YouTube channel and.

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Speaker 1: Subscribe to our Patreon for two extra episodes a month.

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Speaker 3: At patreon dot com. Slash Stradio Lab.

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Speaker 1: Stradio Lab is a production by Will Ferrell's Big Money

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Speaker 1: Players Network and iHeart Podcasts.

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Speaker 3: Created and hosted by Me, George Severis and Sam Taggart.

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Speaker 1: Executive produced by Jenna Cagel, co produced by Becca Ramos, edited.

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Speaker 3: By Laurence Stump, and mixed and mastered by Doug Bain.

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Speaker 1: Artwork by Michael Failes and Matt Grubb. Theme music by

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