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Speaker 1: His brother's a legend. We've been trying to get him
Speaker 1: for a long time. They said he came out two
Speaker 1: thousand and twelve, but his freshman year couple is about
Speaker 1: to hit ten years.
Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about that Super Bowl stage, We're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about them six Grammys. We're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: this legend. Non Grammy.
Speaker 2: Was fucked up. In case you don't know, now, I
Speaker 2: had my first hip.
Speaker 1: Hop name was MC Yahoo with the ball to Bean
Speaker 1: and he was yeah, I know was fucked up, but
Speaker 1: you up there with me.
Speaker 2: Your ship was Breezy Loved Joy. Yeah, you know it's
Speaker 2: a much better name. Okay, I get you that, but
Speaker 2: so that was your first man, Yeah, that was my
Speaker 2: first name. I was like, yeah, it's gonna get all
Speaker 2: the hose Breezy Loved Joy. It was already called me
Speaker 2: Breezy when I was just a kid. It's twelve years
Speaker 2: old and I was a big, chubby kid. I was
Speaker 2: farting all the time, and my brother in law was like,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna call you Breezy. He's from he was from Brooklyn.
Speaker 2: He was like, call you Breezy right, because you're false
Speaker 2: be crazy. And then when I got into like high school,
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm gonna at the love Joy right
Speaker 2: because that's gonna get the ladies. When I started writing
Speaker 2: music on my first little demo tapes, and that's what
Speaker 2: I went with for years. And then my manager was like,
Speaker 2: you need to change that ship when you going to
Speaker 2: meet Doctor Dre. Yeah, I was like, I got five
Speaker 2: hundred Instagram followers. I don't need to change shit. I'm
Speaker 2: on but and he was like, you're gonna really meet
Speaker 2: doctor Dre one day and say my name is Breeze
Speaker 2: Love Joy and I was like, damn, so I changed it.
Speaker 2: Two years later I was signing Dre. It was like
Speaker 2: it was crazy and you went with your own name.
Speaker 2: M hmm, okay, mosset people in my my name. My
Speaker 2: government name is Brandon Park Anderson. Wow, it's Korean and white.
Speaker 2: I guess I don't know what it is. But my
Speaker 2: mom they thought it was gonna be a girl. So
Speaker 2: it was gonna ga me Brenda. And I came out
Speaker 2: the g the man that I am right, and they
Speaker 2: said Brandon right and uh. And then I just switched
Speaker 2: it up. I went by Anderson Pat and then I
Speaker 2: changed the denunciation of Pack because my manager was like,
Speaker 2: you need them guessing, you need them talking. They won't
Speaker 2: know if it's Pack Park, they won't know if you
Speaker 2: want man a group. And I was like all right,
Speaker 2: and I did it Anderson Pack and uh yeah it was.
Speaker 2: It took a little bit, like rebranded for a little bit,
Speaker 2: but it was. It kind of just all the line.
Speaker 2: It was perfect time and after that I just kept
Speaker 2: going with it.
Speaker 1: All right, now we heard you drinking constants to almost
Speaker 1: it's natural Tila day tomorrow, right, let's let's get it.
Speaker 2: Let's get it. Jump on it.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna celebrate you drinking soccer drinking. Yes, he's.
Speaker 2: Right. I just came from and you've been to Korea.
Speaker 2: The share, Thank thank you. I have been to Korea
Speaker 2: several times because I heard your son speaks fluent Korean. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and laws of Korean, his grandparents, his mom, the whole
Speaker 2: house Korean. I'll be like, you're black too, But little nigga,
Speaker 2: now you like to get looked now, but what's the
Speaker 2: Korean Virgin of saki? What's the course?
Speaker 3: So long as you remember kept sake my mom gave
Speaker 3: me because she went to Korean.
Speaker 2: You brought it. You like it? I love it. I
Speaker 2: get it.
Speaker 1: That nas restaurant Cocotte with the caviar and chicken spot
Speaker 1: and they didn't have saki, so I asked and they
Speaker 1: was like, we have the Korean Virgin of Saki and
Speaker 1: what's it called again?
Speaker 2: Sold you that? Yeah? Okay, it's like vodka. But you're
Speaker 2: not you're not Korean yourself. I am so. My mom
Speaker 2: is actually born in Korea. She was adopted in Korea,
Speaker 2: so she was found. Her and my uncle were found
Speaker 2: during the Korean War in the fifties when the when
Speaker 2: the whole place was going crazy and they were abandoned
Speaker 2: kids they assumed from you know, a military American and
Speaker 2: a Korean mom, and they were found and then brought
Speaker 2: over to the Stags. My mom grew up black adopted
Speaker 2: parents who were also in the military. She grew up
Speaker 2: and Compton moved to South Central and when she was
Speaker 2: you know, late thirties, she was living in Oxnar. So
Speaker 2: she had me and my little sister, but she grew
Speaker 2: up in La. My pops was from Philly. Wow. Black
Speaker 2: from Philly. Yeah, yeah, so I'm Blatan.
Speaker 4: I'm from Malaysian's black Asian.
Speaker 2: We're from Malaysia. Son our people knees war Obama claiming nigga.
Speaker 1: So how I you said your mom from Compton? How
Speaker 1: did y'all get to Oxnard? How you can pronounce it?
Speaker 1: Sar California?
Speaker 2: Where's that at? It's a little north to La. You
Speaker 2: go one on one north towards Santa Barbara. The first
Speaker 2: time the album calabasas like past Calabasay. Yeah, Interrey County.
Speaker 2: It's nice and it's it's a little more secluded, but
Speaker 2: it's by the beach, but you know, more people moving
Speaker 2: there now, but back then it was a lot of
Speaker 2: people would be there because of the military base while
Speaker 2: he was there, and you get a lot of military
Speaker 2: people there, a lot of retirees, and a lot of
Speaker 2: agricultures out there, so it was a lot of Latinos,
Speaker 2: a lot of Mexicans and Salvadorians because it's all like strawberries.
Speaker 2: You can grow everything there, so the majority of it
Speaker 2: is agriculture and like immigrants that be over there working
Speaker 2: and my mom strawberries. Yeah, that's how my mom winded
Speaker 2: up over there. She got gifted a business for her.
Speaker 2: One of her friends gave her a strawberry standing. He's
Speaker 2: going to take over, and he's like, take this. You
Speaker 2: ain't doing she was like doing junior college. She had
Speaker 2: two kids already. She was like it, you know, And
Speaker 2: then she did that and it got bigger and bigger
Speaker 2: every year. And by the time she always worked for herself, Yeah,
Speaker 2: entrepreneur from the job. And then she met my dad
Speaker 2: and they started doing that together. And then my that
Speaker 2: didn't work out. My pops went to prison when I was,
Speaker 2: you know, rearely young, six or seven. But then she
Speaker 2: continued to go and married again, and they got into
Speaker 2: the same business and by the time we was high school,
Speaker 2: you know, it was a multi million dollar business.
Speaker 1: You know what the illness about you is, I always
Speaker 1: kind of see you smile, right, yeah, And to me,
Speaker 1: I'm scared of people who smile. Right, I'm going to
Speaker 1: tell you why they want to protect their peace. That's
Speaker 1: what that means for persons.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm saying, like, you know, I don't mean scared,
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean. What I mean is
Speaker 1: like this guy, Like if you see somebody smile, it's like,
Speaker 1: that's that's the person you don't want to break their peace.
Speaker 2: And I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: And when I you know, saught researchings you and I
Speaker 1: realized both of your parents went to jail, right.
Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, both of them did stretches in congentry. My
Speaker 2: mom's uh was seven and a half years of Corona
Speaker 2: State and my stepdad uh did about a year lest
Speaker 2: But yeah, the same business as she did. You know,
Speaker 2: she ended up getting in over her head kind of case.
Speaker 2: It's like they had crazy like uh, you know, counts
Speaker 2: against her. She she pled guilty, took a plea, and
Speaker 2: she did seven and a half state and did that ship,
Speaker 2: got went in got her degree. Both of your parents
Speaker 2: the same time. H Yeah, it's a separate time now
Speaker 2: they were locked the same time. Wow, this was my
Speaker 2: stepdad and he came in around when I was like
Speaker 2: six or seven, so and all the way till I
Speaker 2: was about in high school. But yeah, they boke up
Speaker 2: put it in the same time. And I was like
Speaker 2: senior in high school, like I thought I was about
Speaker 2: to be like I was making beats already, DJing I was.
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm about to be signed to Rockefeller,
Speaker 2: be the youngest over there. I'm gonna do this. And
Speaker 2: then that happened senior year and everything just upside down.
Speaker 2: My sisters had to move in and everybody was just
Speaker 2: scrambling tryning. Me and my little sister were still in
Speaker 2: high school. So how many siblings told, I got three
Speaker 2: sisters from my mom and it's two older sisters, Ronnie
Speaker 2: and Camille. Shout out to Ronnie, Camille and my little
Speaker 2: sister Fielding And that's who we grew up in house with.
Speaker 2: I was the only boy and I'm the middle and
Speaker 2: so that must have been a rough time for us. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was tough, but we're all really close. So everybody
Speaker 2: banded together. And once I graduated, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm not signed yet, I'm gonna get a job. So
Speaker 2: I moved out. And it's when you worked in the
Speaker 2: weed all working everywhere we farm. I did groceries, I
Speaker 2: did assistant living, sold shoes, sneakers, sold weed. It was
Speaker 2: the worst weed dealer. Yeah, you smoke with getting robbed,
Speaker 2: just yeah, just getting.
Speaker 5: No negotiating, no negotiating skills.
Speaker 2: It was going all off botes and you gotta pay
Speaker 2: other people. The niggas are trimed, like damn, I have
Speaker 2: no gun. It's just chilling. Yeah. It was just I
Speaker 2: was just having fun out there. Yeah. But then eventually
Speaker 2: I got in my right lane in my right mind,
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna do music.
Speaker 1: So California, like from what we always know is like
Speaker 1: heavily gang populated, was oxen arg Yeah, heavily ganged, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Heavily Yeah. Growing up, that's all I knew. That's all
Speaker 2: I knew growing up. When I was coming up. My
Speaker 2: earliest memories of hanging with my cousins, you know, they
Speaker 2: were gang bangers and they were always you know, beefing
Speaker 2: with different people in the neighborhood, and I remember people
Speaker 2: always going in and out of jail, are you know,
Speaker 2: getting you know, hooked on drugs? And early on they
Speaker 2: were like all the gang members I knew were early
Speaker 2: on there. We used to say, like you were different, Yeah,
Speaker 2: because you don't let you belong in the game, not
Speaker 2: at all, not in the least bit. Funny though, Like
Speaker 2: the music that I love the most is the most
Speaker 2: gang bang, and it's like shooting.
Speaker 1: Always Snoop Dogg ceed one time when when you cross.
Speaker 2: Whatever, you know, Like since I was little, I was
Speaker 2: listening to Snoop, you know, for show and tell. I
Speaker 2: used to learn every lyric and just rap you know
Speaker 2: the song you know, and that would be my show
Speaker 2: and tell. And I was obsessed with hip hop. My
Speaker 2: sister would to have all the tapes and I was
Speaker 2: obsessed with everything and that she was obsessed with and
Speaker 2: that was what my meter was for cool. So I
Speaker 2: was like yeah, But all the early people that were
Speaker 2: in that life were like, you're special, You're talented. I
Speaker 2: used to just sit and they and they like do it,
Speaker 2: and I just dance. I'll do all the kid and
Speaker 2: play like Chriss Cross like I would do all that
Speaker 2: I was such an entertainer. I wanted to just entertain.
Speaker 2: I'll do the Bobby Brown, I do the I put
Speaker 2: the jacket over and I do. It would be like
Speaker 2: a every day a party for my family, and I
Speaker 2: would be just entertaining Michael Jackson. I'll be flip and
Speaker 2: all over the place. And so there was like boom.
Speaker 2: And then when I started playing drums, I started getting
Speaker 2: interested in music. Though there was like really like, you
Speaker 2: ain't not this ain't for you. You stick with that.
Speaker 2: You know when you started playing drums, that was in
Speaker 2: the church.
Speaker 1: So was that a three sixty moment for you when
Speaker 1: the super Bowl when you on the drums, because it's
Speaker 1: like that's where you started out in the church. But
Speaker 1: look at you on the biggest stage in the world,
Speaker 1: and you you know, you're.
Speaker 2: Going back to how you started. How was that moment
Speaker 2: for you? Cheers? The super Bowl? The super Bowl? It
Speaker 2: was the moment. Crap it up for that. That's that's
Speaker 2: why it makes it.
Speaker 1: Scott's thoughts must have been sitting back like, man, this morning, sucker,
Speaker 1: how he getting invited on stage?
Speaker 2: Lang Lang, But yeah, this's cribbed that moment. Shout out
Speaker 2: to Scott's story and got my man, hell ya just playing.
Speaker 2: But you know that joke was fun. That's my dad jokes, buddy.
Speaker 2: I had had what you're about to be left off
Speaker 2: that motherfucker like I got.
Speaker 1: We had Scott to talk about it on here, and
Speaker 1: we had Dre talk about it on here, and I
Speaker 1: asked Dre particularly. I asked, Dre, did you think you
Speaker 1: missed somebody off of the stage.
Speaker 2: And he looked at me.
Speaker 1: It's the hardest part of the interview, in my opinion.
Speaker 1: He looked at me and was like no, And I said.
Speaker 2: Oh ship he was?
Speaker 6: He was?
Speaker 2: I had They had already dropped the flyer for the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, right, I was not on that ship. I
Speaker 2: hit Dre direct, Dre, what the fuck? Let me get
Speaker 2: on that joint, Let me play drums something, let me
Speaker 2: you know, I got I can get in there. Some
Speaker 2: ways said hey, it's all good. I made my own flyer.
Speaker 2: I superimposed myself on that ship long ago, ten years ago.
Speaker 2: That ship was before you. I put my I my people.
Speaker 2: I'm like, look, you gotta figure it out. I threw it.
Speaker 2: I threw myself on there. I was like, yo, it's good.
Speaker 2: Like He's like we're gonna find something for you guys
Speaker 2: like that. I'm puting myself on the fly. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: just take a few liberties. I'm gonna just throw myself
Speaker 2: on there. And I showed it to him. He started
Speaker 2: cracking up. He was like, make sure they know it's
Speaker 2: a joke. I was like, that's all good. I'm a
Speaker 2: post it And I was on that ship. Next thing
Speaker 2: you know, I was waiting manifest it. Manifest It's not
Speaker 2: make it till you make it, it's bring it to
Speaker 2: see it all the way through. Yeah, shout out to
Speaker 2: shoutut to everybody that was on it. Let me ask you,
Speaker 2: though you actually got the call, what was it that
Speaker 2: you for?
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 2: All right, I'm in you know, that was pretty much
Speaker 2: just of V And next thing you know, I'm at
Speaker 2: rehearsals and he's like, I got this idea. You're going
Speaker 2: you're down to play for Marshall, you know, like, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, let's do it, like lose yourself and the
Speaker 2: fun the part was that I was rehearsing for the
Speaker 2: Silk Sonic ship at the same time we was rehearsing
Speaker 2: for your residency. If you went to the LA Residency,
Speaker 2: that was. We were rehearsing for that at the same time,
Speaker 2: and I feel like we only had like a month
Speaker 2: to get the show right, and we did a month
Speaker 2: straight and I had to keep telling Bruno's like, I
Speaker 2: gotta go for Super Bowl rehearsal. I got to leave early,
Speaker 2: you know, and so and both of them are just
Speaker 2: like they're so phixiated on having the greatest show. And
Speaker 2: that's why they do have the greatest show, because they
Speaker 2: really work at it. And Dre's no exception, and he
Speaker 2: was getting these rehearsals in and they put together an
Speaker 2: amazing show. And I was able to sneak in like
Speaker 2: really two or three rehearsals with Dre and them, and
Speaker 2: they shut out. To my boy, that was the MD
Speaker 2: over there. Oh my god, I'm I'm drinking and smoking,
Speaker 2: but you know, charge it to my heart, no man,
Speaker 2: But you know, my boy Adam Blackstone, who put together
Speaker 2: the show is incredible in his band, and he took
Speaker 2: care of me and got me where I was comfortable
Speaker 2: I could jump in there and also get back in rehearsal.
Speaker 2: So on we had to do the Super Bowl. It
Speaker 2: was insane because right before we go on to the field,
Speaker 2: you know, we're like on the side of the field,
Speaker 2: and you know they get like thirty seconds to set
Speaker 2: up stage or whatever. Wait thirty seconds, I mean something
Speaker 2: like that. Yeah, and I'm here and you know, you
Speaker 2: put your in theres in and you can hear everybody talking,
Speaker 2: and like it's seconds before we go up and I
Speaker 2: hear snoop go he go to Dre, Hey, cuz is
Speaker 2: it Lotti dotty doar dotty dotty doll? And Dre goes
Speaker 2: what and then five four slights off them? Oh my god,
Speaker 2: And I'm playing to lose yourself. You don't even get
Speaker 2: one shot. I'm like, could you not drop your sticks?
Speaker 3: Bro?
Speaker 2: This is like the biggest thing. And it was just incredible, man,
Speaker 2: like the way they orchestrated it and it went off
Speaker 2: without it hit you. It was it was that was
Speaker 2: a big moment for sure, and everybody was like, I
Speaker 2: was like, should I smile? You know when I'm damn,
Speaker 2: I couldn't help it, and I'm like, I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: straight facing. And then as you can see, I had
Speaker 2: the biggest fucking smile the whole time.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I tried. I just I was hired. So did he
Speaker 2: say I blocked out. I don't even know. I think
Speaker 2: he's lotty dot he died.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But go back to when you get your hands
Speaker 3: on drums, how is that presented to you in the church?
Speaker 3: Like what how did you get drawn into drums yourself?
Speaker 2: I started playing drums because I wanted a girlfriend or something,
Speaker 2: you know, I wanted girls, you know, like I was
Speaker 2: getting into twelve thirteen and everybody had a thing, and
Speaker 2: I thought I was gonna be NBA player. I thought
Speaker 2: I was going to be like a wrestler like all
Speaker 2: these things. And I was, you know, drawing, and I
Speaker 2: wanted to be in a cartoon like I wanted. I
Speaker 2: was like, well, I couldn't like be a cartoon, but
Speaker 2: I was like I need to do something. And then
Speaker 2: I was like I love music and I was very percussive,
Speaker 2: and the drums were the one thing that when I
Speaker 2: got on it was like second nature, like I never
Speaker 2: had to really overthink it. So that's why I stuck
Speaker 2: with it, and so it's naturally. Yeah, in sixth grade,
Speaker 2: I started playing in like orchestra band and it was cool.
Speaker 2: I was about to quit, but then my step pops
Speaker 2: I came home one dan he had a drum set
Speaker 2: and he was playing prints and I didn't even know
Speaker 2: he played drums, and like, I was like, okay, the
Speaker 2: full drum kit, that that might be more of my thing.
Speaker 2: And he was just always jamming. He wouldn't let me
Speaker 2: get on the drum kit for a minute, and then
Speaker 2: he finally got off and I hopped on and I
Speaker 2: started playing, and it was just like, man, a few minutes,
Speaker 2: I was getting it. I had the mechanics, and my
Speaker 2: mom was hopped out of the room and was like,
Speaker 2: you're crazy. My mom was a really big critic, you know,
Speaker 2: and she was like, that's you got it. She was
Speaker 2: dancing and shit. So I was like, okay, I can't
Speaker 2: make people dance and shit, so I'm gonna keep doing it.
Speaker 2: And I kept learning all her records or when the Fire, Frankie,
Speaker 2: Beverly and Al Green and you know, yeah, she was
Speaker 2: just yeah, she had booklets to see me d drums,
Speaker 2: learned this, learn this, I mean everything, Freddy Jackson, Heavy
Speaker 2: D Tony, Tony Tony, like so much stuff. And then
Speaker 2: I started, you know, getting older and listening myself. Then
Speaker 2: my god sister came through. She's like, you need to
Speaker 2: go play at church. That's where all the musicians at
Speaker 2: you playing drums, Oh you're ready, you need to play
Speaker 2: at church. And we never been to church for that.
Speaker 2: I was like twelve and my mom grew up in
Speaker 2: the church house her parents, her father was a pastor,
Speaker 2: but they she never really made us go to church
Speaker 2: like that. And so when I was invited by my godsister,
Speaker 2: it was because the music initially, and when I went,
Speaker 2: I saw the best music and saw the best players.
Speaker 2: And then I was you know, under people that were
Speaker 2: reading the word and and the best like mentors and stuff,
Speaker 2: and they were just taking me in. And I got
Speaker 2: a bunch of kids that are my age that were
Speaker 2: going to church too, So that became like my little network,
Speaker 2: my social network, and that was everything. That's where I learned.
Speaker 2: Like that was like my camp. You know, like every
Speaker 2: day I was, I'm a church.
Speaker 1: Kid, and you could head a soul and in your
Speaker 1: voice you could tell that you had to start early
Speaker 1: in the church.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was it. And they didn't let me play
Speaker 2: ship like for years. I was just just a drum
Speaker 2: staring at the drums a long time.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: He was the bench for the yeah, and then then
Speaker 2: for commuting commuting or offering, you might get a chance
Speaker 2: to play. Come on, little nigg and you play. You
Speaker 2: fuck up one time, get off, get off, and they
Speaker 2: embarrassed you for the next guy come in, you know,
Speaker 2: And that's what it was about. You're playing, you know. Uh,
Speaker 2: I think DeAngelo said this one time. It's not for
Speaker 2: any former fashion. It's to glorify God. And you're a vessel,
Speaker 2: so any little thing, you know, it's like it's very sacred.
Speaker 2: So uh, you get the best musicians and eventually you
Speaker 2: you're able to play more and more. You know. It's
Speaker 2: like training and practice hours.
Speaker 7: Ye.
Speaker 2: Playing in the church is crazy. And I was there
Speaker 2: every day of the week down there. It's like Monday
Speaker 2: youth service and choir rehearsal at eight o'clock eleven o'clock.
Speaker 2: Then we travel, you know, shout out to Jerse Mitchell.
Speaker 2: I was me and an organist. And that was how
Speaker 2: I played. Grew up playing for years all the way
Speaker 2: until I was in my late twenties, until I couldn't
Speaker 2: do it any more. That that was how I got
Speaker 2: paid Every week when I didn't have a job, I
Speaker 2: could always play at the church. I was literally feeding
Speaker 2: my kid with that like it's yeah, that's it was
Speaker 2: my everything for sure.
Speaker 1: So did you ever find out from Boosie Collins with
Speaker 1: the Silk Sonic really mean.
Speaker 2: We just riding with this? You got to ask Bruno,
Speaker 2: Well it was Bruno, Yeah, okay, and it was like
Speaker 2: true he named he Yeah, like they came together. But
Speaker 2: I think, you know, Bootsy solidified it, you know, saying
Speaker 2: like he really like put a stamp on it and
Speaker 2: we couldn't do nothing without his blessing first. But you know,
Speaker 2: he is like such a mastermind man. He's really a
Speaker 2: visionary and a perfectionist and is a dude that is
Speaker 2: cut from the same claw. Another musician knows about playing
Speaker 2: in Church, it was about show biz from an early
Speaker 2: on point, you know, playing when he was like imitating
Speaker 2: Elvis in a full family band since he was like
Speaker 2: six seven. You know, like that's some shit right there.
Speaker 2: So he comes from a different side of it, so
Speaker 2: he knows. I don't know, he's just really good with
Speaker 2: the not only constructing these songs and putting in the
Speaker 2: work to make it happen, but also how is it
Speaker 2: going to look, how we're gonna position it, what suits
Speaker 2: what kind of kyo? Like now, let's really drive it home.
Speaker 2: Let's show them how to dance to it, like listen.
Speaker 2: You know. So this is a whole other part that
Speaker 2: I learned a lot from, you know, in that process
Speaker 2: with Silk Sonic. And we didn't have ship else to do.
Speaker 2: It was cod COVID. There's nothing else to do. So
Speaker 2: that's probably why it was perfect. And that's how you
Speaker 2: can ever get that back. Things weren't fun like it
Speaker 2: looked fun. Yeah, we were having so much fun. Some
Speaker 2: days we just pull up not a single bit of
Speaker 2: work with to get done and we're just laughing talking
Speaker 2: ship and uh, next day we try to do something
Speaker 2: because this day we just laughed all fucking day. And
Speaker 2: I think that's that's rare. You meet people that's rare
Speaker 2: that in the in the industry. When he works this long.
Speaker 2: I've been blessed work now in the double digit digits,
Speaker 2: and it's like to meet people that are you in
Speaker 2: your your peer group that are like that still and
Speaker 2: have that passion for it and still want to win. Uh,
Speaker 2: it's refreshing and it's like something you cherish. Now let's
Speaker 2: talk about you just use the word perfection. Right.
Speaker 1: One of the people that's known for perfection is doctor Dre.
Speaker 1: Like I've heard doctor Dre made you people.
Speaker 6: Come to this.
Speaker 2: Have you work with him?
Speaker 1: Yes, I have, But I worked with him early on
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety seven. I told him, told him that
Speaker 1: he didn't even remember that's how dope his life is.
Speaker 1: He was like, word, I remember that track. Remember this
Speaker 1: was a track call I'm leaving on the Firm album.
Speaker 1: I was, so, I'm asking you, has it ever been
Speaker 1: frustrated or you always respect the process? Because I heard
Speaker 1: like like perfection, perfection. I heard you have people come
Speaker 1: back ten times to get one. I heard you guys
Speaker 1: battle perfection. Yeah, yeah, I think it's it's about the growth.
Speaker 2: I think when I started with him, you know, twenty fifteen,
Speaker 2: I was just really excited to be in there with
Speaker 2: Like I couldn't tell you how crazy the energy is
Speaker 2: to where someone that grows up in southern California grows
Speaker 2: up where I come from. And to actually make it
Speaker 2: to Dre, that was like making it to the top
Speaker 2: of it, Like that's the top and maybe see that
Speaker 2: might be universal thing Like even though I come from
Speaker 2: the West Coast, there's I know, there's this from New York.
Speaker 2: I feel that we're all over the world. That Quincy Jones, yeah, everything.
Speaker 1: So arguably the best producer of one of the most
Speaker 1: legendary groups, you know.
Speaker 2: Right, So to be in a studio, let alone be
Speaker 2: signed by him, Like I'm telling you, I never in
Speaker 2: my wildest dreams. So when I was just getting in
Speaker 2: the studio with him, when he was working on Compton,
Speaker 2: he was inviting me over. Man, that was just that's
Speaker 2: the first time I were together comped and op. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it really put a battery in my back. It gave
Speaker 2: me a gusto that I needed because before that I
Speaker 2: didn't think I was going to get to meet him.
Speaker 2: I think I was going to get to work with him.
Speaker 2: You know, coming up as a writer in LA you
Speaker 2: always got hit up to do uh detok sessions and
Speaker 2: work on stuff that you know, the mic may or
Speaker 2: not come out, and it was just always a thing.
Speaker 2: And so when I actually I almost missed the opportunity
Speaker 2: to work with him because I you know, I was
Speaker 2: thinking that oh that already came and went, you know,
Speaker 2: and it was such an idiot that almost like you know,
Speaker 2: let that was that close to letting the opportunity to
Speaker 2: go because I was thinking, like Nah, he ain't gonna
Speaker 2: be at the studio. I don't I've got my own
Speaker 2: thing going. I don't need to go and work on this. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know at the time, you know, and my manager
Speaker 2: was like, are you you have to five hundred follow us? Okay,
Speaker 2: you know, get spike it double, but no, I was
Speaker 2: just like nah. And then he was like, dude, you go, bro,
Speaker 2: like just go, you know, And then I went and
Speaker 2: it was like wow, right there first two people on me,
Speaker 2: Dre and DC, because then you have a record out,
Speaker 2: and they didn't play it for him. I did have
Speaker 2: a record. It was bubbling. It was like, you know,
Speaker 2: floating around. I had a single out. I don't even
Speaker 2: know if it was officially out or what, but I
Speaker 2: think it was out. Actually had a record out through
Speaker 2: Stones Throw, through another group called No Worries. Shut up
Speaker 2: to my brother and you had to play it for him.
Speaker 2: You were nervous a ship. And I got invited and
Speaker 2: he was there, and so I went into the studio
Speaker 2: I was working with. He was working on the project
Speaker 2: called Compton, and he was working with these two writers
Speaker 2: Mezo my Dog till this day in JT. Incredible writers
Speaker 2: and they were like going crazy. They were playing me
Speaker 2: the music that they were working on for Dre and
Speaker 2: it was incredible and they were like, Yo, we love
Speaker 2: your song Swayed and that was the song I had,
Speaker 2: Bubbling and that's the song I had and it was
Speaker 2: a single, and he was like, we love this and
Speaker 2: we want to play it for Dre and I was
Speaker 2: like heard it yet. Yeah. I was like, well, let's
Speaker 2: make some new shit, you know, let's get him excited
Speaker 2: about something else, you know, in casey don't like it.
Speaker 2: And they're like, now fucked out. We bringing him in here.
Speaker 2: We brought him in. He was like, what the fuck
Speaker 2: was that. It's one of those anytime you get the
Speaker 2: two thumbs up you did something crazy right, and he
Speaker 2: just would have stopped playing it, and it was just
Speaker 2: like wow. He just cranked it up. And after like
Speaker 2: three or four times playing it, he's like, let's let's
Speaker 2: do something new. And we must have made like three
Speaker 2: or four records that night, all in the day's work
Speaker 2: we did that night. Yeah, we did a bunch of shit.
Speaker 2: And then it came back the next day. He did
Speaker 2: more and more and just like kept working. We kept
Speaker 2: working on you know, the first track and building it
Speaker 2: and trying different ways he wanted to do. They're playing
Speaker 2: with the production, and then I just kept coming. I
Speaker 2: would just some days I would go I wouldn't do anything.
Speaker 2: I just watch and other writers would come in, other
Speaker 2: artists would come in and record, and I would just
Speaker 2: shoot the ship with the producers. And then I was, uh,
Speaker 2: some days I do like three or four gems like
Speaker 2: crazy stuff. And next thing you know, I wake up
Speaker 2: and the album's out and my mom counting's out. It's
Speaker 2: on iTunes and my mom like five records, and then
Speaker 2: it updates them on six records. Then they was calling
Speaker 2: me six pack track. Nothing was ever the same, No.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: It was crazy. Yeah, how dope does that feel?
Speaker 1: Because it's also been rumored that Dre would make a
Speaker 1: whole album with somebody.
Speaker 2: You never know if that was, Like he actually put
Speaker 2: it out and I didn't have an album out. Really,
Speaker 2: I had this my first album. I venished and I
Speaker 2: had to single out. But then Boom Compton came out
Speaker 2: and I didn't even have my album out. Like I
Speaker 2: was like, ship, I need something to go off.
Speaker 1: I heard him L did a whole album, and no
Speaker 1: one wanted a bunch of people did stuff like what
Speaker 1: I'm saying like it's l L like that's right if
Speaker 1: I came a sign to the label. So when it
Speaker 1: actually comes out, you are you like, fuck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I made it. Yeah I'm different. I'm different, off Rid,
Speaker 2: because I think that was the beauty of it. It's
Speaker 2: like your ex girl and be like hey, bitch calling me.
Speaker 2: I was married. I always had my oldest you know,
Speaker 2: it was getting older, and I was like yes, perfect,
Speaker 2: like thank God, like something's happening, you know, like man,
Speaker 2: and I wasn't signed. I was boom, he was crazy
Speaker 2: put it out. Surprise. Drop had the movie. He had
Speaker 2: the motion and was like, no, check him out when
Speaker 2: he had the motion and I was like wow. And
Speaker 2: I couldn't buy a deal before that, we was going everywhere.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you, did you stick with aftermath
Speaker 1: because he felt loyal, You felt you felt.
Speaker 2: Like you deserved it, like like this this guy really
Speaker 2: gave you a shot. Absolutely absolutely, because he he put
Speaker 2: his he put his cards forward, you know, and I
Speaker 2: feel like he put hisself out there and kind of showed,
Speaker 2: you know, gave it that that CO sign when a
Speaker 2: CO sign really meant something, you know, like, uh, that's
Speaker 2: That's what he did for me and before anybody else.
Speaker 2: So now I felt like, so, now you're gonna go
Speaker 2: sign to somebody else now after he didn't put the
Speaker 2: do with the motion did that, and and also I
Speaker 2: wasn't signing, and so I got to really figure out
Speaker 2: that choice for myself, you know. And it was dope
Speaker 2: because I had another deal with Stone Throw on the
Speaker 2: Diferent Group. That's what I was about to ask, so
Speaker 2: I could always do no worry stuff, which is the
Speaker 2: reason why how he found me. So I could always
Speaker 2: have that that has nothing to do with anybody but
Speaker 2: me and my brother and in Stone's Throw, and then
Speaker 2: I could do Anderson Path for whoever I wanted to
Speaker 2: do it with. And I was like, wow, that's the
Speaker 2: hitting me of what I always wanted, Like, did any
Speaker 2: other label offer you as a soul that nobody had
Speaker 2: no offers on table until after dre Okay. So the
Speaker 2: album came out. Then I got all these everyone, all
Speaker 2: these medias at that point, and one was dope business.
Speaker 2: Now I had other producers, all these everybody want to
Speaker 2: circle back, and I felt I'm pulling up I'm ordering ship,
Speaker 2: you know. Before we saw Sushi. Yeah, so it was
Speaker 2: it was dope, but now it was really cool. Is
Speaker 2: I had all these like uh because I had a
Speaker 2: halfway done album. Malibu at the time was about halfway done,
Speaker 2: and I started reaching out now to these other producers
Speaker 2: that I didn't want to work with, matl Lib Ninth Wonder,
Speaker 2: High Tech and started finishing at the rest of the album,
Speaker 2: you know, DJ Khalil, and it gave it, gave it
Speaker 2: the texture that it needed to finish up the rest
Speaker 2: of the album. And I got to do that and
Speaker 2: I was a sign.
Speaker 3: And then.
Speaker 2: When I came with the album, Dre was like, I
Speaker 2: want to do a brand new album with you. So
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, well I got Malibu. I'll
Speaker 2: drop that indie, you know. So I got to drop
Speaker 2: Malibu Indie with my partners that I was already working with,
Speaker 2: the Empire. Yeah, and at the time Art Club and
Speaker 2: Obe which was party to Magazai. Okay, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 2: So they put the first two albums out Steel Wool
Speaker 2: and it was like a bunch of moers on there,
Speaker 2: you know. But when you make a movie and be
Speaker 2: a bunch of moviders, I got to be involved. So
Speaker 2: it's the same thing with some of these first records.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we got to do that, you know, and
Speaker 2: and I got to put out Malibu and tour. I
Speaker 2: toured forever after that, and then we did Tiny Desk
Speaker 2: and then it just blew from there and people were
Speaker 2: seeing that, oh he's different, could play instruments, and so
Speaker 2: it was cool to be under Dre. Under with all
Speaker 2: this people saying you'll never drop all this stuff, And honestly,
Speaker 2: I never stopped dropping. I never stopped just doing it.
Speaker 2: As soon as I was with Dre, he set the presence,
Speaker 2: He set the standard while by him dropping his project
Speaker 2: Boom off Red, he was always working. I had all
Speaker 2: those records over there. I got to do my own
Speaker 2: indie record, and then I got to then sitting down
Speaker 2: with Dre again, let's sign out after everything I've been
Speaker 2: on the road, everything, I got my bread, you know,
Speaker 2: like everything's good, let's sign and let's do it, and
Speaker 2: now let's make an album. And I got to sit
Speaker 2: there with him and make my next album ax SNAr
Speaker 2: And that was some of the funniest name in your
Speaker 2: hood and you got Dre producing it. Come on City
Speaker 2: like man, it was beautiful.
Speaker 3: I'm sure for someone to have that where you were
Speaker 3: able to put out all this music independently as well, Yo,
Speaker 3: like that having.
Speaker 2: All would have blocked you from doing that. Don't tell
Speaker 2: too many people, dray Hat that's how you know, right
Speaker 2: right right, because he can.
Speaker 3: And the fact that he put out that record without
Speaker 3: signing you, because he would have been we're not putting this.
Speaker 2: Never blocked man. Never none of that. Man, And it's
Speaker 2: always working man, and even incorporates me in so much stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm on g t A because like all my in
Speaker 2: g t A, I don't even like last time I
Speaker 2: played it was like the camp, the Bird's eye view
Speaker 2: drink and now I'm in the fucking video game and
Speaker 2: ship like man, that was beautiful. Man like pops out
Speaker 2: Coachella shows like I mean, just that's my dog. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they shout out to Jay. Our show is about giving people.
Speaker 1: They flowers, what they could smell them, They to us
Speaker 1: what they could tell them, and they drinks while they
Speaker 1: can drink them.
Speaker 2: We want to give your flowers. Man, We know you
Speaker 2: got nine grand. You want to give you your goddamn novel.
Speaker 2: Got a little light yea making ship? There you go.
Speaker 2: Do you ever reflect on your success and be like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're to pull up in Delta one lounge right right, right,
Speaker 2: right right, But I ain't got a scan ship here.
Speaker 2: I want sushi siro. I need it. Yeah, we're really
Speaker 2: feeling that ship. Like you know, it's usually at the airport.
Speaker 2: You get to see how successful or not successful you are,
Speaker 2: and it's good to say let you know. And everyone's
Speaker 2: gonna let you know, fans or lack thereof or you know, drivers.
Speaker 2: It's all about the people and it's great, and like
Speaker 2: I love it when I'm able to meet people and
Speaker 2: they lose their ship, like you know. And then sometimes
Speaker 2: I'll be with my mom. You know, my kid is
Speaker 2: now fourteen. He got friends and we go out and
Speaker 2: sometimes people geek out and it's like, you know, the
Speaker 2: kids are like okay, yeah, yeah, I told you, I
Speaker 2: really but this is great, man, Like I love it
Speaker 2: and it's like it's dope to be like I feel
Speaker 2: like there's still such a way as to go, and
Speaker 2: I love having fun with it. The journey's been sick, man,
Speaker 2: Like you know, I like getting into new ship. I've
Speaker 2: been doing a lot of DJing and getting into film.
Speaker 2: I'm doing a movie with my son and we shot
Speaker 2: it already. It's been you know, doing the film festival circuit,
Speaker 2: but it'll be out next year in theaters. You and
Speaker 2: your son. Yeah, we shot a whole film, like you guys,
Speaker 2: independently a little bit.
Speaker 1: You speak a little bit of Korean. Yeah, I got
Speaker 1: to mess me up seeing a black person to speak Korean.
Speaker 2: Man, and yeah, yeah, niggas feel me. If you feel me,
Speaker 2: you know what that meant. That's universal. Even niggas know
Speaker 2: what that meant. You don't know what you know? Yeah,
Speaker 2: like that could only mean one day, fuck wrong with you.
Speaker 2: It's a universe. It's almost Jamaican right, Yeah, yeah, a
Speaker 2: little dependence. That's they'll be saying that. That's when his
Speaker 2: mom get real mad. Yeah, I ain't gonna tell you again.
Speaker 2: That's some more like yeah, I know a little bit,
Speaker 2: but yeah, we did a whole movie independently. I directed it,
Speaker 2: co wrote. Shout out to kayl Amazon Stampede, Live Nation
Speaker 2: a lula Est. You know, we put together a film.
Speaker 2: I pitched him a film. I got to do it
Speaker 2: and it's gonna be out And it's like that was
Speaker 2: one of the hardest most like creatively feeling things, man,
Speaker 2: and to do with my son it's like that.
Speaker 1: We spoke about the album Mallible. Well I want to
Speaker 1: I want to speak about the place Malible for a second.
Speaker 1: Malible was one of my favorite places on Earth. Mallible
Speaker 1: doesn't even seem like it's in California, right, It seems
Speaker 1: like it's in another state. So yeah, it almost seems
Speaker 1: like a la version of Hawaii, right, absolutely love. I
Speaker 1: haven't even seen you in and Mallible one time. It's
Speaker 1: driving around with the drop I always see then, that's why,
Speaker 1: that's that's why. Yeah, what made you want to name
Speaker 1: the independent album Mallible?
Speaker 2: You know, I was going with the scene because I
Speaker 2: was making my albums like I wanted to make it
Speaker 2: like a series where people could follow along, like how
Speaker 2: people were doing the mixtapes. You know, they kept their
Speaker 2: audience because they it was like insta grils and it
Speaker 2: was always uh, sorry for the way, or like the
Speaker 2: name title, you know, and yeah connected. So I was
Speaker 2: like okay, and I was into doing I didn't want
Speaker 2: to get boxed in either because I like to do
Speaker 2: R and B, but I knew I would get bored
Speaker 2: to that and I would like to do some house
Speaker 2: sometimes rock funk, you know, switch it up, so I
Speaker 2: would have all these records. A lot of times I
Speaker 2: sit on my record four or five years before I
Speaker 2: put them out, you know, on average, you know. So
Speaker 2: I had a lot of these these songs, even from
Speaker 2: Alibou when I had Venice, and Venice came out first,
Speaker 2: but I was just kind of sitting on them, still
Speaker 2: working on them. But I had these songs that were
Speaker 2: like more electronic based, more lay up temple. Some of
Speaker 2: them were dance tempo, some of them were trapped. I
Speaker 2: was playing around with like, uh, auto tune this on
Speaker 2: this first record. So I was like this, I want
Speaker 2: to take them on a journey. So I'm gonna start them.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put my albums in beaches and beach form
Speaker 2: and then they could follow me. Then I have the
Speaker 2: luxury to kind of when I go to Malibu, that
Speaker 2: could be my like serious like bluesy it's more you know,
Speaker 2: serious tone, and like I saved these, but Venice is
Speaker 2: more like turned up. You can buy some drugs, you
Speaker 2: can go cert you can go take some LSD, you
Speaker 2: can do some trip out, you know, and so there's
Speaker 2: that album is more of that. And then I was like,
Speaker 2: but I'm won't take them on this journey. We're gonna
Speaker 2: go up the coast and get a little more into
Speaker 2: No Boo, different vibe for different Sashimi, Yellow Tale now
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, so turn it down, not too much Ada
Speaker 2: Waits on this one. Yeah yeah. So then we started
Speaker 2: doing that and I had more like introspective joints and
Speaker 2: songs that I was like, really, I didn't I didn't
Speaker 2: know if I could put out because I was like
Speaker 2: a little too like I felt a little too shy
Speaker 2: about them for something. They were a little too vulnerable.
Speaker 2: But by the time I was on to make that album,
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, it's perfect timing. And I had
Speaker 2: other songs that I was gathering, you know, am I
Speaker 2: wrong and everything? So I made it made sense with
Speaker 2: the environment, and I was just continuing on the series
Speaker 2: of going up north. So I knew the next one
Speaker 2: would be ox Star, the next one would be Venture,
Speaker 2: you know, and that would be like kind of something
Speaker 2: to So the album is named after beaches. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: keep going, Where should I go next? Likes to beach?
Speaker 2: Just keep going. You're here. You can't come to the
Speaker 2: county line. You can't shot in Miami from from there, right,
Speaker 2: I mean you have to cross Mexico or Texas or something.
Speaker 2: Ship we got. You gotta go to San Diego, not
Speaker 2: that way. If you want to stay in water, you
Speaker 2: gotta all the way to Panama Canal Fu. I'm in Panama,
Speaker 2: Panama's Fire. Make the whole movie. Yes, all right, we'll
Speaker 2: talk through lawyers, so uh quick, Thomas, let's go. Let's
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 3: All right now, this is our drinking game. M you
Speaker 3: seem as before. We're gonna give you two choices, this
Speaker 3: versus this, that or this. If you pick one of them,
Speaker 3: you don't have to drink. Nobody drinks. So if you
Speaker 3: decide to politically correct answer, you say both or neither
Speaker 3: of the two, then we drink.
Speaker 2: Okays, no comment. You know, if you have any stories
Speaker 2: about you, this is.
Speaker 1: Really about bringing up stories about the people places we're
Speaker 1: talking about, if you know them, if you don't know
Speaker 1: about the drinks.
Speaker 2: Ready, yeah, I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Ready like this first one, Doctor Dre or Quincy Jones.
Speaker 1: It's whatever criteria to you. Whatever someone made better macaroni
Speaker 1: and cheese one day, that's.
Speaker 2: Why you like them more, Doctor Dre. Okay, that's I
Speaker 2: just never got to work with Quincy. And I've always
Speaker 2: adorned in a worship Quincy never got to work with them.
Speaker 2: Rest in peace to the icon of legend. That's right,
Speaker 2: you got And also this trajectory is a life that
Speaker 2: I would like to live. Is like just how that
Speaker 2: went down as an artist and the people that he
Speaker 2: got to touch and work with in the array of
Speaker 2: you RaSE to live that long and then its kids
Speaker 2: and then everything like wow, like that was That's what
Speaker 2: I mean. Who wouldn't want that kind of life? And
Speaker 2: so bless up, you know, taking Yeah, yeah, really both
Speaker 2: shout to d.
Speaker 8: Tupac or Hustle dang No, we just gotta take a
Speaker 8: shot stuck cheers mm hmm, Snoop dog or the game.
Speaker 2: Uh, we're gonna go Snoop Dogg because first of all,
Speaker 2: that is too tad to us all and one of
Speaker 2: the biggest inspirations you know period. We're gonna also take
Speaker 2: a shot too because don't kill me game. That's my
Speaker 2: dog too. But you know, Snoop is our that's our superhero,
Speaker 2: like that's the game a malleable lot. Yeah, yeah, We're
Speaker 2: we're gonna have to say it. Yeah yeah, So when
Speaker 2: you say Snoop too, right, he said, to we all
Speaker 2: agree with stiff, so we all take it up, said
Speaker 2: Stevie Wonder.
Speaker 3: Marvin Gayeh, Stevie Wonder, I say, Stevie frid you.
Speaker 1: See did you see what Stevie got on the stage
Speaker 1: and the front like that he could see, he would know.
Speaker 2: He addressed it like just right. I was tired of
Speaker 2: niggas bro like, stop with all that ship for all
Speaker 2: of y'all. Still you know.
Speaker 1: Shock came on the show and we was like, yo,
Speaker 1: do you think Stevie wonder? Because see and he said
Speaker 1: that Stevie Wonder. He said they lived in the same
Speaker 1: building at one time. God he can put us up.
Speaker 1: And he said that Stevie, he got elevated that the
Speaker 1: button was already pressed like Stevie used to go to
Speaker 1: his floor.
Speaker 2: And then he said, what's up big deson, like as
Speaker 2: he walked in.
Speaker 1: Now, it's not that far fresh, it's not that far
Speaker 1: first because they say people who who can't see.
Speaker 2: So like obviously you know, but who said it was
Speaker 2: a George cleaner, wasn't it? Said he crosses there was
Speaker 2: the street of the street. They seen him, of course
Speaker 2: there all on this show. Stenses are heightened. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: a little busy street by yourself. You can hear that
Speaker 2: ship before he comes. He's seen the matrix. They like
Speaker 2: it's a highway. I was clinking that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And plus people don't stop see Stevie crossing you thinking
Speaker 2: what you're gonna do. That's a good point. Yeah, yeah
Speaker 2: he clear and ship. Yeah that's bless a good point.
Speaker 2: That's a great point.
Speaker 3: Street him bro that one twenty one Savage or Kodak Black.
Speaker 2: Uh, let's yeah, that's tough to both, okay, but but
Speaker 2: but uh yeah it's from he's from Florida, right, Yeah, man,
Speaker 2: he got man. He's a soulful Dudelige Mariah Mariah and
Speaker 2: I'll drink to that, m j or Prince And if
Speaker 2: you got any stories, please please. I wish I could
Speaker 2: say I've met one of them or either, but no,
Speaker 2: I never got to meet him. Uh but some of
Speaker 2: my biggest inspirations. And it's I don't know, because I
Speaker 2: feel like if I would have met Princey, I feel
Speaker 2: like he wouldn't liked me. He would he just yeah,
Speaker 2: he would have just did some sort of psychological thing
Speaker 2: to me, would have done anyway he would have liked
Speaker 2: to play because I would have been such a fan too,
Speaker 2: like or maybe I don't even know, Like I wouldn't
Speaker 2: know how to take it if I would have met him,
Speaker 2: and I know he would have just had fun with that,
Speaker 2: but maybe he would have really been you know, cool,
Speaker 2: because took you to take I don't know. And then Michael,
Speaker 2: you know what is Yeah, So I don't even know
Speaker 2: how I could even my brain could even function like
Speaker 2: Michael like that was like the fit of me. So
Speaker 2: I just say both because you know, Prince I got
Speaker 2: so much fluck for because really, man, you look at
Speaker 2: Prince how he did it and how he was playing
Speaker 2: everything and how he did it with his business acumen
Speaker 2: and was such a had a punk rock attitude from
Speaker 2: the jump and didn't take no ship and was very
Speaker 2: and another and Michael the same, you know, different juggernauts
Speaker 2: at that business. So you never had a character all
Speaker 2: in the ship production fashion performance. So it's tough, man.
Speaker 2: So you heard about day Beef. That's what I was
Speaker 2: gonna say. It's getting more epic as the time goes by.
Speaker 2: You hear the story. Yeah, will I am on there?
Speaker 2: Will I am Oh? Yeah, that was a great story.
Speaker 1: I am invites him to the show to his show,
Speaker 1: I believe a Black Eyed Peas show.
Speaker 2: And he tells him what is it.
Speaker 1: He tells Mike that Prince is going to be there, Well,
Speaker 1: Prince was on the show. The Prince is going to
Speaker 1: be there. It was Prince's show, and he was going
Speaker 1: to go okay, And he says, A mean he said that.
Speaker 1: He said that, Mike, Prince is such a meaning. Imagine
Speaker 1: about this. You know the fact that they didn't get
Speaker 1: along is so much It makes sense right, like because
Speaker 1: I mean, there would have been a lot of sensitivity, flash.
Speaker 2: Of the icons. Yeah, and and did you see the
Speaker 2: the World documentary? Michael was pressure there too. I'll play
Speaker 2: a solo. That's it. Guitar solo. Come on, Prince, everybody here,
Speaker 2: we got some hennessy, nah niggas. Let me let me
Speaker 2: tell me, let me ask you do you think this?
Speaker 2: This is my theory. I could be totally wrong.
Speaker 1: I have no inside information, but in my mind, Mike
Speaker 1: and Prince were both gangsters.
Speaker 2: Both yea yeah, like they didn't play bro like that
Speaker 2: level that bar is a gangst the level man like
Speaker 2: this some of them. I don't know if you think
Speaker 2: we ever have that again? No, No, I don't know. No,
Speaker 2: I don't think they were coming out at the same time.
Speaker 3: You know they were, Yes, yes, not that That not
Speaker 3: the way that was. That was a different time, a
Speaker 3: different era, different technology about it.
Speaker 2: I'm sitting right here and we'll just gonna say that
Speaker 2: ain't gonna never happen again. It's different. It's a different play, guys.
Speaker 1: Just crip sized, bro, it's different. Take a shot for
Speaker 1: my own stuff. Hold on the game, right, let's go.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you.
Speaker 2: Very close. Four four four that's the time. Okay, alright,
Speaker 2: fifty center eminem? What was the question again? Fifty every center? Eminem?
Speaker 2: Oh man, let's drink to both. Okay, I'm into that.
Speaker 2: That's that takes a soccle Okay, up chairs oh man,
Speaker 2: mm hmm okay, yeah, okay, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Who's with it? Okay? Well,
Speaker 2: chump Rock, Wow, chump Rock jumps upon the scene. If
Speaker 2: I were the green, that's a cast jam right man,
Speaker 2: that's I've got nothing love for you. But you look
Speaker 2: at censors right now. Yeah, you know he was cut.
Speaker 2: We got to walk. It is gonna go crazy with
Speaker 2: this type of ship.
Speaker 1: Yea, And people like yeah, but when we had DJ
Speaker 1: Quick up here and he was like, nah, man, he
Speaker 1: wasn't throwing up blood friendly ship and I was just like,
Speaker 1: oh he ship.
Speaker 2: Like DJ Quick didn't like that, Like, I mean, look
Speaker 2: he expected Mike. He was like, wow, some ship. But
Speaker 2: he was like man at that time, not cool he was,
Speaker 2: and you know he got the money to push the
Speaker 2: bun like damn.
Speaker 3: You heard the story where his voice that he would
Speaker 3: change it. I don't know if it's true. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: what I heard about. He would talk normally. It was
Speaker 3: going on, Yeah, what's going on?
Speaker 2: It was Mike. You called him, Hello, it's Michael him
Speaker 2: nigga going on. So it's not just money nigga heavy
Speaker 2: D I say heavy d Okay, Yeah, I like this
Speaker 2: one yay or for real? For well, I mean day
Speaker 2: that's tough too. I mean I know everybody's like, I
Speaker 2: feel like he's from their school too. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: like kind of guys. No, no, no, like now I'm
Speaker 2: drinking stuff. But I know everyone's phild has their opinion
Speaker 2: about you know, both artists and stuff. But all I
Speaker 2: know is like I was in high school and both
Speaker 2: of them were putting out stuff again, so it's like, man,
Speaker 2: these are like people we looked at like wrestlers. Like
Speaker 2: this is like to be in high school and all
Speaker 2: this music is coming out when like I was on
Speaker 2: the West Coast like trying to convince people like you
Speaker 2: know how Kanye is, it's gonna be sick, like he
Speaker 2: really wraps and produces, and you know when we when
Speaker 2: you can really look at the booklets and yeah he
Speaker 2: did this, and Bink did this and like just blaz
Speaker 2: and but he was also rapping and he was putting
Speaker 2: on mixtapes. And then Pharrell then he teams of Parrell.
Speaker 2: Then he remember when he shows up and Frell's trying
Speaker 2: to tell him like, you know, Forrell's the hottest dude too.
Speaker 2: Pharrell still sits there and like listens to him and
Speaker 2: even Frell knows that it was crazy and give him
Speaker 2: advice through the wire. Yeah yeah, but into the underground,
Speaker 2: Yeah did you know? I just just you know, remember
Speaker 2: all this stuff coming out at the same time. So
Speaker 2: it sounds like we're taking a shot. I think we
Speaker 2: take a shot, all right, cool, say, okay, that's the
Speaker 2: one Bruno Mars or the weekend Bruno Okay, and I'll
Speaker 2: drink to the I love it. I love it. Loyalty
Speaker 2: to my dogs, to my dogs, Yachti or Denzel Curry.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 2: Shout out to both of them because they was both
Speaker 2: on my my freshman class and they're both doing well
Speaker 2: killing it. I saw Yachty open for Tyler with my
Speaker 2: son because my son was he's obsessed with Tyler's fourteen.
Speaker 2: So we got to see Yati. We got to see
Speaker 2: Paris Parish, Cali, Paris, and Yady killed it and he
Speaker 2: was fucking. I didn't realize Nigga got hit, and I
Speaker 2: was like, damn. It was like my first little Twitter beef,
Speaker 2: like years ago, Niggaven got rich. Now, No, yeah, that
Speaker 2: was funny. I've early on it was like when he
Speaker 2: was like coming out, you know, he had some views
Speaker 2: about Tupacer about hip hop, and I responded to something
Speaker 2: and I was like the first time I seen him, like,
Speaker 2: oh shit, she could get taken out of you know
Speaker 2: and callowing up and stuff, and then everybody goes on
Speaker 2: their way, you know. And I've seen her since then
Speaker 2: and he's super cool and we're good. But I got
Speaker 2: to see full circle him go from that, you know,
Speaker 2: when people were kind of I feel like people in
Speaker 2: my joint in my class where people were already trying
Speaker 2: to get them out early and kind of saying they
Speaker 2: wouldn't last and stuff, And now they've become you know,
Speaker 2: now my kids, don't you know?
Speaker 1: And by the way, that twenty sixteen cover, like it's
Speaker 1: like mainly all of y'all are still here. It aged
Speaker 1: very well, It aged very well. Like it's it's like
Speaker 1: I would say, ninety eight percent.
Speaker 3: Of might be one of the last ones that aged well,
Speaker 3: to be honest with, who might be one of the
Speaker 3: last one of the last age age as well?
Speaker 1: That's why I put that in an intro the twenty
Speaker 1: sixty Yeah, my twenty sixteen fresh Yeah, yeah, everybody on
Speaker 1: the twenty sixty cover all of this reunion show.
Speaker 2: Come on, we got to talk to Live nation, right well,
Speaker 2: we're talking about y'all. Open up. I knock them down, Okay, Schoolboy,
Speaker 2: cre Jay Rock, Wow, both my dogs. That's dirty so little.
Speaker 2: I ain't got man, I can't keep us fun. You
Speaker 2: got right there, okay, right, okay, Yeah, this is this
Speaker 2: is a little solid, a little bit. That's right.
Speaker 1: I gotta say. Is that the killer you're switching it up?
Speaker 1: You make a match, Okay, Okay, you're going crazy.
Speaker 2: I'm blazing. You gotta piece both sides.
Speaker 1: Right, and a little bit of Mexican too, because yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because of the the quila.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good one. You TV raps or rap city?
Speaker 2: Whoa I say rap city. That's why I grew up
Speaker 2: on I know you're in wraps. That's like to hit
Speaker 2: you doing stuff on the tu I got a piece
Speaker 2: so sick. It's always one hundred twenty five like some numbers.
Speaker 2: They gotta tripping, nothing sad. I get to look impression.
Speaker 2: You got to do a sessment of the city, the
Speaker 2: story about Yeah, the time, don't make it like that
Speaker 2: saying I have to say I rap city, big tigger
Speaker 2: and in the freestyles like that's what I remember, like
Speaker 2: everybody like do it coming and doing the freestyles with
Speaker 2: like two rags and like he did, Yeah, D bring
Speaker 2: up the same. It's a quick time because you do
Speaker 2: be rapping. But what do you like more? Rapping or singing?
Speaker 2: If you say both, we drinking. It just depends on
Speaker 2: how many women are present. And there's two here. I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure you're gonna go with rapping here we're here.
Speaker 2: I'm like, come on.
Speaker 5: When I was like singing, there's another thing in here
Speaker 5: with this will happen? You have to married people, don't
Speaker 5: right that b to be versatile, yes, huh. And it
Speaker 5: just depends, man. I think like naturally, I always I
Speaker 5: want to rap. It's just like it's like talking. It's
Speaker 5: like you know the thing you know you just always
Speaker 5: rap like I love it. I fell in love with
Speaker 5: it from an early early age.
Speaker 1: Are you're good at it? It's not a lot of
Speaker 1: people who raps sing that's actually good at.
Speaker 2: I mean, he just did nineteen eighty seven rap right now. Second.
Speaker 2: It's how good he go He could go back coming
Speaker 2: from you. Yes, everything, Thank you solo, Thank you, man
Speaker 2: one entrepreneur, mann ri E Bro, thank you for showing
Speaker 2: us how to rap on Neptune's beats. Goddamn. Okay, be
Speaker 2: a connoisseur.
Speaker 1: That's right, all right, but hold on, so we picked
Speaker 1: that right, you discovered suck all right, But this is
Speaker 1: this is a good one. And again you got it.
Speaker 2: Earth Winning Fire or the Osslie Brothers, Oh.
Speaker 6: Day.
Speaker 2: I'm most say Earth when a fire, you know, because
Speaker 2: they joined squeaky clean like Ronald Is probably can't perform
Speaker 2: some of them. Mark Kelly joints all the time. So
Speaker 2: you gotta think you got to know they just play
Speaker 2: all they said. Sometimes you know big makes a BIG's
Speaker 2: got a pivot here there. Yeah, yeah, you can still
Speaker 2: do it. Yeah, but earth from the fire squeak clean now, okay,
Speaker 2: but so it's a mood thing. But I'm gonna say
Speaker 2: it from the fire. Okay. So we took we picked
Speaker 2: from drinking, but we didn't get he's the only one
Speaker 2: that drinks what he says.
Speaker 1: We didn't get rapping, and we didn't answer rapping or singing,
Speaker 1: he said, depending on how many. Yeah, yeah, but period overall.
Speaker 1: Let's make sure that both both. Yeah, all right, I
Speaker 1: like that. All right, So were taking a shop for that?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 3: Okay, Oh like this one, Richie Smokey Robinson, smoke Dog.
Speaker 2: You got records with Smokey rob Yeah, how does that happen? Bro?
Speaker 2: How the fuck do you get in contact with Smoky? Exactly?
Speaker 2: Do you get? You do text a fireplace? So that's
Speaker 2: got to be a fireplace, like I feel like him
Speaker 2: live in a fireplace. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. You got
Speaker 2: the forever backdrop. He's that guy. Yeah, so how do
Speaker 2: you get in contact? That was and we reached out.
Speaker 2: That was the Drake card was reached out. You know,
Speaker 2: I had all hands on deck. My manager Adrian Miller
Speaker 2: at the time, he was like, yeah, I had a
Speaker 2: song that we was working on. I was like, we
Speaker 2: should get smoky for this, and uh, Adrian and hit
Speaker 2: him up and he was there. He was like, man,
Speaker 2: my daughter loves you. I was like, okay, hell yeah,
Speaker 2: and he was like, let me hit a song. I'm
Speaker 2: getting there. I play on the song. It's like, just
Speaker 2: cut it off. You gotta make love to them with
Speaker 2: these words, baby, like I'm doing it right. And so
Speaker 2: it's like, just print me a CD CDR one instrumental
Speaker 2: one without the licks, and I'm gonna come back. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna fix it. And then he came back and he
Speaker 2: changed the words, but he kept the melody and we
Speaker 2: had like all this raunchy ship and he just up
Speaker 2: yeah and kept the same melody and then we cut
Speaker 2: it and that was gold record. Yeah, Jesus, is there
Speaker 2: any plans to try to work with Lina Richie. I
Speaker 2: would love to work with Lina Richie Lino, Let's do
Speaker 2: an album, let me let me produce. So I got
Speaker 2: a great team. Let's do it. I know you've got
Speaker 2: a huge budget. Let's do Mexico. As we talking about,
Speaker 2: the more we talk about it, like like listen, let's
Speaker 2: make it happen. Line fools with me. Yeah, I see Richie?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 6: Was that?
Speaker 2: What's that?
Speaker 1: What's that restaurant downstairs from the Soho House at the
Speaker 1: Soho House in Amoullable, the Shole House downtown.
Speaker 2: I'm not Sherry Roscos No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2: What does that ship? I'm not? It wasn't.
Speaker 1: Uh. I forget people gonna fry me for this. But anyway,
Speaker 1: I seen Lionel Richie, and so I came there night
Speaker 1: before and the lady was like, Nori, I have two
Speaker 1: tables open right now. So I said, okay. She said
Speaker 1: one next to line of Richie and one where you
Speaker 1: sat last night. So which table do you want?
Speaker 2: Let me.
Speaker 1: And I walked in and I called my mom. It's
Speaker 1: how much it was. It was legendary for me to
Speaker 1: meet Richie. I called my mom and I was like, mom,
Speaker 1: are you a line of Richie?
Speaker 2: Fan?
Speaker 1: In my mother's voice, she was just like, oh baby.
Speaker 1: Once he said that, I said, I'm going to get
Speaker 1: a lot of picture.
Speaker 2: So I stood there. I had a big I had
Speaker 2: the big chain on, so I pulled the big chain
Speaker 2: out just I know, was like, yo, you know.
Speaker 1: That's Nori. So we said, Hi, I send him a
Speaker 1: bottle of wine. I never forget this. Rest in peace.
Speaker 1: Havain Hawa was with me. Send them a bottle of wine.
Speaker 1: He ordered the most expensive bottle on the menu, but
Speaker 1: I already had committed. I was like, I'm in, and
Speaker 1: he took like full SIPs of that ship and left it.
Speaker 1: And as he left, I went and got that wine.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have got back my bottle. He didn't give
Speaker 1: a buck, but that was legendary for me. Me and
Speaker 1: motherfucker might know Richie Okay, okay, okay, you get this one.
Speaker 2: I'm not even open. Okay, canay Ico or Alicia Keys
Speaker 2: Shout out to both. Jane I've known for years. We
Speaker 2: said the same manager. Shout out to taz uh love Janey,
Speaker 2: love Alicia. I haven't worked really with Alicia, but I
Speaker 2: got to work with Jane a couple of times. We
Speaker 2: haven't put anything out, but we've worked. And you know, Jane,
Speaker 2: that's West Coast, you know, so I feel like you're certain,
Speaker 2: But it's tough because I could hear you and you know,
Speaker 2: real musician. Like again, I remember where I was when
Speaker 2: I first heard her too. You know, I think she
Speaker 2: kind of paved the way to I'm gonna say, Alicia,
Speaker 2: because shout out to the people that paved the way. Right, Okay,
Speaker 2: you don't got to a shot. But with you, I know,
Speaker 2: he's like, I'm gonna ask. I'm not gonna.
Speaker 1: That's my boy twist thing. All right, cool, I'm taking
Speaker 1: a shot, all right, al Green of Curtis Mayfield.
Speaker 2: Wow, y'all crazy man both So now we've got to
Speaker 2: we've yes, man, Yeah, I love this one. We gotta
Speaker 2: take there you go show, Chris Brown, I think this
Speaker 2: is a good danity. This is insufferable, but again like okay,
Speaker 2: this is what it is, like you gotta give it
Speaker 2: to us show, just because where it starts, you know,
Speaker 2: like again the blueprint. You know, you got to work
Speaker 2: with all the greats too, amazing songs and to be
Speaker 2: able to still be doing it be relevant now at
Speaker 2: his age, is still doing it at a high level,
Speaker 2: very high level. Both of them are doing the high levels.
Speaker 2: But I feel like, you know, ushers solidified. He's he's
Speaker 2: done so much stuff. Now he's you know, just continue
Speaker 2: to continue to keep his legend known and continue to
Speaker 2: making new stuff. And I feel like Chris is still
Speaker 2: we yet to be seen even what he's going to
Speaker 2: do in the future. So I just feel like, you know,
Speaker 2: props the both again. But yeah, ushers just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I want to tell everybody was doing that sideways side
Speaker 2: away ship, sideways moonwalk joint, you know, yeah, take a
Speaker 2: shoe off, the niggas, you know, all that gliding and
Speaker 2: he's singing the niggas bitches right now feeding cherries. I
Speaker 2: don't even understand. It's a part of hard life. See
Speaker 2: that every time opening up, it's a it's a bit
Speaker 2: eating cherries. If you bring your girl there. Never were
Speaker 2: going to circus of leg We're gonna going on to anything.
Speaker 2: Just not doing show. I mean it looks a little
Speaker 2: crazy like some other ship. The girl in front of
Speaker 2: you going like that, what show you think? In no way?
Speaker 2: I love respect with gouble mus I looked. I was like,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, you're just going to let that and
Speaker 2: that's love. I'm not sure what that is. Didn't didn't
Speaker 2: he break up a whole like he just went on
Speaker 2: the work I don't know, it's really his fault. It's
Speaker 2: not his doults, it's not his fault. Yeah, the home girl.
Speaker 2: Everyone has a choice to make this girl, you know
Speaker 2: what his fall pig like, oh boy, we throw his
Speaker 2: whole relationship by the day, Like, man.
Speaker 1: You don't have the dog out, you know, and you've
Speaker 1: got roses and strawberry and stuff you like.
Speaker 2: And he's doing it smooth too, like he like like
Speaker 2: he's like taking a foul shot, like you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying with the first coat on a three pointer.
Speaker 2: He coming in for the layoffs.
Speaker 1: He like this the layoff, Like, I mean, man ship,
Speaker 1: we ain't going on a yeah, anything with that, Okay,
Speaker 1: I respect that.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 2: The source of double Legs. Oh, the source or Double Excel.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's tough, I say, the source. Yeah really five mics, Yeah,
Speaker 2: give me five micsn you never got five mics. I did.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they were doing it. I love
Speaker 2: love your passion. Yeah, we want to go back to it.
Speaker 2: I think she get an honorary go back and get
Speaker 2: you to retaant. Yeah yeah, no, that was it for
Speaker 2: the stores and like all those iconic covers mm hmm. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that that was just missed it. But I'm probably on
Speaker 2: a digital cover somewhere for sure. And that's dope too, man.
Speaker 2: But that's the coaching.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: So I grew up collecting and taking all those like
Speaker 2: putting them on my wall. Did you did you buy
Speaker 2: the fake jewelry from the back of the source? I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't the tail end of it, but I didn't.
Speaker 2: Unders But I didn't.
Speaker 1: Because they would do They would do wo tang pieces
Speaker 1: like you know, like you know, just you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: pieces like that.
Speaker 2: I bought my first turn tables on the back of
Speaker 2: the source. Was that the bootleg section.
Speaker 3: No, they had a DJ starter kit. Oh that's it
Speaker 3: was affordable. It was going to do the pop are
Speaker 3: Geminis in a scratch Master.
Speaker 2: You gotta do that right now. Very frugal with jewelry.
Speaker 2: I'm very cheap. A lot of my jewelry has been
Speaker 2: given to me. I just yeah, by majority for my birthday.
Speaker 2: You're going to see it. I'm gonna I appreciate it,
Speaker 2: I wear it.
Speaker 1: I think we should make no noise to that. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: this is the last one. We're gonna jump in back
Speaker 1: into day and.
Speaker 2: You got to take a shot for whatever you say.
Speaker 1: Jesus even persuaded the witness you say, you don't leaves
Speaker 1: doing this whole.
Speaker 2: He likes that you drink every shot. He likes that.
Speaker 2: Uh loyalty or respect? Whoa yo? Both for sure? Yes
Speaker 2: h h salute no one. No motherfucking grammys yo. Right?
Speaker 2: What the fuck does that shift? Does they get old?
Speaker 2: Like when you have one and you have two and
Speaker 2: you have three? Yeah? Four? No, it doesn't. Blessings with
Speaker 2: me is I've gotten to do it with all kinds
Speaker 2: of different acts, you know, across three different acts, from
Speaker 2: Anderson Pact myself to then doing it with uh Silk
Speaker 2: Sonic and then most recently with No Worries. So uh,
Speaker 2: it's a different journey every time. So it's a different experience,
Speaker 2: different experience, and to be, you know, for these albums
Speaker 2: to be to receive Grammys from you know, the peers
Speaker 2: and the voters and all that stuff. It's it's amazing,
Speaker 2: but yeah, can it get could you know? That could
Speaker 2: easily turn into oh this is why I do it now,
Speaker 2: you know, and then the music you know, it could
Speaker 2: also make you real lazy, you know really yeah, in
Speaker 2: the sense, uh, you know, if you think that if
Speaker 2: you start to think that that's why you have to
Speaker 2: do it while you have to make the music in
Speaker 2: order to reach these deadlines or to do something right right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that could drain on your creativity and uh, your natural
Speaker 2: trajection as where you might could go if you weren't
Speaker 2: thinking about that. And that's what I want to get
Speaker 2: to as an artist is where I'm not thinking about
Speaker 2: none of that. I'm just creating and I'm able to, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, put it in the best posture it needs
Speaker 2: to be, to bring it out to the people because
Speaker 2: I've well thought about it and everything, and and I'm
Speaker 2: able to tour it and do so much stuff with it.
Speaker 2: And if it gets acknowledged by anything from the Grammys anybody,
Speaker 2: it's great, you know, but it's uh, it's not like, Okay,
Speaker 2: now we have to do it for this reason only,
Speaker 2: and if we don't get one, it means that it's
Speaker 2: a failure. It's like, it's not it's not that. But
Speaker 2: to be able to have those, it's like, yes, fucking huge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not even you have one or too. It's
Speaker 3: like the amount is crazy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: People don't need to get one, right, yeah. Yeah, now
Speaker 3: another unicorn. You got to work with Andre three thousand. Yeah,
Speaker 3: first off, I'm knowing Andre D thousands for twenty seven years.
Speaker 3: I'm no outcast big boy for twenty seven years. Andre
Speaker 3: D thousand is the most mysterious man on earth, That's right.
Speaker 3: How did you get him?
Speaker 1: Because he doesn't even he doesn't even lay a verse
Speaker 1: for outcasts at this point, like, how.
Speaker 2: Do you get him? Andre? Hundreds of thousands because that's
Speaker 2: what you have to pay to get that verse cleared? Okay, wow?
Speaker 2: And then he gets inspired, miraculously, miraculously finds the spiray
Speaker 2: you have to pay for that bird, bro, I ain't.
Speaker 2: I ain't think he charged he did? You get to
Speaker 2: hang out with you? It's a fluega, nigga. How many
Speaker 2: verses this nigga calculated? That don't even got to come out?
Speaker 2: Only a couple of niggas walk around with the flute.
Speaker 2: Niggas is rich. You gotta be insane or rich three
Speaker 2: features and paid for the flu life. You're paying for
Speaker 2: the lore nigga. If I put it out, if I
Speaker 2: might want to just not put it out. Still, that
Speaker 2: check got a clear bro, right, So you know he's
Speaker 2: just he moved with the wind. Yes, circle, you know
Speaker 2: I love that. It's a flute mystique. It's a mystique
Speaker 2: money well spent. Yes, most rappers low state mystique because
Speaker 2: of Instagram. That's it. He didn't play himself out, same overalls,
Speaker 2: same little Jordan threes and he just out here beard
Speaker 2: him in Japan, right, same flue, same Jordan's, same overalls.
Speaker 2: Thatagine how Hi the barbera in years right, he's just
Speaker 2: in there, no tape matchingouts, money he's saving, no taper,
Speaker 2: none of that. I'm free, now get off me freedom.
Speaker 2: He shout out to our barbers with you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: well no one hundred fifty three hundred for it to
Speaker 2: the fifteen hundred he does not.
Speaker 1: We wantredfty thousands just in case we want Tom and we.
Speaker 2: Got yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, And I got him. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I was like, yo, hundred, I got of records
Speaker 2: and he came through and he was like, all right,
Speaker 2: I want to hear the beat. And I played him
Speaker 2: like a bunch of records and he's like, I like
Speaker 2: this one like that. He can't get what a composition,
Speaker 2: but but yeah it's real, like we did all that
Speaker 2: and this is when I was working with Dre and
Speaker 2: this is now working on Venture album, and I was
Speaker 2: working on both of them at the same time. When
Speaker 2: I did Ox started Venture, I did them all at
Speaker 2: DRE studio at Record one one Yeah okay, and so
Speaker 2: this is where they did all these iconic records, you know,
Speaker 2: not the Aftermath records, and I think Michael Day records
Speaker 2: there too, So I was like having a field day there,
Speaker 2: first time I ever really had a budget to do
Speaker 2: an album, so top of the line studio working and
Speaker 2: have both rooms going.
Speaker 8: And then.
Speaker 2: I started seeing that it was I had a different
Speaker 2: kind of music. One was a little harder edge, one
Speaker 2: was more arm beat. So I started separating. I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I got another beach. I could do Venture after this,
Speaker 2: you know, double back. And so I had this joint
Speaker 2: that I wanted to open up the album with, which
Speaker 2: was come Home. And I played it for him and
Speaker 2: he loved it, and then he was he was like cool,
Speaker 2: let me write to it. So that he was like,
Speaker 2: let me write to and yeah Andre. So I was
Speaker 2: like that, We're going to get out the room, you know,
Speaker 2: uh Andre, everybody was there. So we got out the
Speaker 2: room and he would be in there for hours and
Speaker 2: is this sage burning? No sage this him in his book. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: no sage. He wanted to be saved. But okay, there
Speaker 2: was sage burning for Leake. Let's take up the story.
Speaker 2: Sage a little maybe outfit. I'm talking chickens the ship
Speaker 2: and he gets to write and some ship. I said,
Speaker 2: God damn. Andre. He said I'll be back. I said, huh,
Speaker 2: I'll be back tomorrow. I think I'll be ready. I said, okay,
Speaker 2: show you're right, thank you very much, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: Next day we come in. He's right on time. Three
Speaker 2: p m. Same beat, Andre, load up the beat, snee.
Speaker 2: A little privacy goes in there. You know, sage is burning.
Speaker 2: I'll say, the shaman's still there. The shaman's there before me.
Speaker 2: It's a little funky, but I'm rocking with him. I
Speaker 2: walk out. No, six hours later, you ready to do this.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna come back tomorrow. Oh, I say, God damn.
Speaker 2: That's how DMX just do people bad, all right? Third day,
Speaker 2: come back trump. Third days is what they usually in
Speaker 2: the business. We say third days the charm and you
Speaker 2: can go, I'm gonna come back, I say, God damn.
Speaker 2: All right. So I'm I'm fatigued. Now I'm thinking about
Speaker 2: how much is the cost? Yeah, that's a lot. You
Speaker 2: start to think about Bill. I gotta go, So I
Speaker 2: got to hit the road. So I go on tour,
Speaker 2: double back, go back on tour, do a few gays,
Speaker 2: get on my feet. I hit Italy, were about to
Speaker 2: play Italy. I get it. Look at my email, Andre
Speaker 2: three thousand verse, boom, he send it. I send the email.
Speaker 2: I could see the little audio. I'm like, and it's
Speaker 2: an empty three or it's away. Okay, I'm afraid because
Speaker 2: that would be I'd be like, damn, what I's gotta
Speaker 2: be good?
Speaker 3: If not.
Speaker 2: Like, what if you don't like? Yeah? What if you
Speaker 2: don't like?
Speaker 3: And what do you like? The first?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just taking right, I'm taking it. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'll take Osca. It's great. It's amazing.
Speaker 9: What he really would have been like the Scooby Do
Speaker 9: Boo Bries school coming three ready to blow, showing that
Speaker 9: one to kill.
Speaker 2: I would have been got crazy. Yeah, but he didn't
Speaker 2: do that. He destroyed it. Yeah, he did a crazy verse.
Speaker 2: And I listened to revery from my show, and we
Speaker 2: we were the honest to God, I never told me
Speaker 2: about this, but honestly, guy, we did. We were like,
Speaker 2: first listen, like, all right, we're not back, like because
Speaker 2: it was so intricing. It was crazy. If you listen
Speaker 2: to his very spitting, it's like a love song. Then
Speaker 2: he comes in, you know, and it was just like
Speaker 2: when we first heard it, it blew our minds. That
Speaker 2: was like, all right, one more time, like and it
Speaker 2: took a while to like even just process it, and
Speaker 2: but I had had the verse. I was like, wow,
Speaker 2: we got the joint and I started, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: I started producing it took it's at the verse, and
Speaker 2: we you know, we worked the production around it a
Speaker 2: little more slightly, and then uh, it was time to go.
Speaker 2: And then we loved it. Everybody loved it. And then
Speaker 2: like right before it was about to drop, he was like,
Speaker 2: I don't want to drop Andre hit me three K
Speaker 2: and he was like, I don't want to drop it.
Speaker 2: I was like, He's like, I think I'm not adding
Speaker 2: to it. I'm not adding to the song. It doesn't
Speaker 2: need me. I'm like, it's about to drop. Holy Ship,
Speaker 2: it's too late. Yeah, sorry, can't help you, Mike. Yeah, no, no,
Speaker 2: what he said he said added him to the song.
Speaker 2: You know, he said he's not adding to it, like
Speaker 2: he's not making it better. It was like, take me off.
Speaker 2: I want to be off of it. Whow said yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: So I was like, fuck, so I did the one
Speaker 2: thing I get. I hate I hate the other Dre
Speaker 2: doctor Dre. I was like, Dre, we we're gonna do this.
Speaker 2: Sounds like it's something you need to bring up the
Speaker 2: two dres dalk you man, you guys got something. You
Speaker 2: guys have something in common. You guys need to mention
Speaker 2: it after so they yeah, see Andrea and came in
Speaker 2: here and how it went down, Little Nick, we we
Speaker 2: stick on my name and then it came out. It talked,
Speaker 2: they talked it over. You got a call and the
Speaker 2: next thing that was out and in this history, it's
Speaker 2: like we got then to take it all to the
Speaker 2: next level. We get a Grammy for that song specifically,
Speaker 2: and that's the Grammy I keep in my mom's house.
Speaker 2: I love you Mom. Damn, are y'all getting robbed? Like
Speaker 2: the do you guys share the location? They just they
Speaker 2: just move in, All right, don't get me involved in
Speaker 2: none of this ship. We haven't efficient Molly, where's my
Speaker 2: other white girls. Yeah we're good, right, you see a
Speaker 2: few white people here. Still we good get some coffee out.
Speaker 2: Oh man, it's a good thing that dread the line. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's amazing man. Yeah I got the Grammy. God blessed
Speaker 2: everyone involved, and that was such a great thing to
Speaker 2: be able to not only have the verse with the
Speaker 2: Grammy real song. Did you speak to Yeah yeah afterwards? Yeah, man,
Speaker 2: just so humble, just like he just was just like wow,
Speaker 2: you know, we both for like a whole you know,
Speaker 2: y'all never like went back on the story. Remember how
Speaker 2: this wind? Then, No, he's gonna hit you if you're
Speaker 2: talking texting me now after he watches this little nigga,
Speaker 2: I hang, Howard Wind, I don't even know you talk
Speaker 2: like that. You're gonna get voicemen of just flups. It's
Speaker 2: gonna be a little eary.
Speaker 3: We we we.
Speaker 10: How much of Andre Fan we're gonna be at nobu.
Speaker 10: The flu album is hard to me, I mean ibout
Speaker 10: hard to it Like that to me is what's doing
Speaker 10: Like he's like, give everybody a chance.
Speaker 1: I gotta give everybody a chance when somebody's trying to
Speaker 1: break them all right, I can't sit back and be like,
Speaker 1: I'm judged them.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, it's all right, you can't judge it, and
Speaker 2: especially that kind of stuff where you could be obviously
Speaker 2: doing one thing you completely just be like, nah, we're
Speaker 2: gonna take it here. That's the most pump.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he also rock and roll ship you could do,
Speaker 2: you know, and be playing and like in the middle,
Speaker 2: like you could catch him anywhere, like that's crazy.
Speaker 1: So he'd be at a gas station playing or whatever.
Speaker 1: The only thing I'm concerned with right now. You got
Speaker 1: a hit record. Cool smoking out the window and you
Speaker 1: did smoke no endo?
Speaker 2: Okay, can I get you out? Tell him out? Can
Speaker 2: I get a crush? Can I get the tobacco I
Speaker 2: asked for you? Like, what are we talking about? You
Speaker 2: smoked European? You're a rockstar business I still waiting on
Speaker 2: the credit joints.
Speaker 1: Rockstar that remember, somebody rolled tobacco him. He got the
Speaker 1: worst tobacco ever him and jajahel the best sunny d
Speaker 1: B T.
Speaker 2: You don't. But he got a cigarette American spirit. Him
Speaker 2: and Da got a newport in this month. You want
Speaker 2: his tobacco that's American? Yes, thank you? Don't give them
Speaker 2: no more money? Though, come on, let's edit this out.
Speaker 1: Let's let's talk about smoking out the window, because there's
Speaker 1: a part where you say about to show you okay,
Speaker 1: all right, cool, this is that European Let's let's show him.
Speaker 2: This is how they cut off the cruise.
Speaker 6: Bro.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that cruise shiprul ship split. Well, who said it?
Speaker 2: That's right? Huh yeah, huh spliff, okay, stuffing slid. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we all know. Give it up for that. I want
Speaker 2: I want to are you smoking that my love the name.
Speaker 1: Smoking blood Yeah yeahs oldchoo California ship to smoking a
Speaker 1: Philly Philly Blood California.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah you can't.
Speaker 7: I am not elevating my some some might up side.
Speaker 7: I mean, hindu, I was thinking about, Yeah, you got
Speaker 7: signed on them. What we need definitely don't need the press.
Speaker 7: Niggas listen killing yes, especially on the drums or you.
Speaker 2: None of them niggas is playing doing that kind of ship.
Speaker 2: You ain't rolling a long time, nobody. I gotta tell
Speaker 2: let me roll. Bro. You know you're talking about your
Speaker 2: nineties niggas. Bro, Bro, you ain't been the PJ is
Speaker 2: in saying all right, you're good. I'm getting used to
Speaker 2: the captain. Pressure, gotta make crach.
Speaker 1: But you've been rolling for two hours. So me and
Speaker 1: E f N is from the beginning the way I'll
Speaker 1: tell you this.
Speaker 2: Did I tell you? Did I tell you? I did?
Speaker 1: I bet against him? But you know we haven't got
Speaker 1: it really bet we didn't really better? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: we have two things right, right? We always from who?
Speaker 1: From from what you dream?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: We always judge the artist and was like, yo, what
Speaker 1: you didn't really drink it? And if they're gonna really
Speaker 1: drink it, that's one because they order it and they
Speaker 1: don't doak ship.
Speaker 2: But got a son, I said. I said, he's coming late,
Speaker 2: and what I do? You can't early fifteen minutes?
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's make some And I got your phone number.
Speaker 1: Me and you're okay, we speak to each other.
Speaker 2: And I bet against you, bro, that's one of my
Speaker 2: phone numbers. Okay, shut me down. Ain't about get there now.
Speaker 2: He's cool with the road when you get there now
Speaker 2: that Bruce Lee wiship. I'm taking a shot for that man,
Speaker 2: see me. I like to be fashionally late. Yeah, nah,
Speaker 2: especially early. Yo. I was very impressed. Yes, I was
Speaker 2: very impressed. All right, Okay, we're taking a shot to look. Oh, yes,
Speaker 2: you don't know, I mean yeah, yeah, I like, come on,
Speaker 2: that's the second drink you took my sockey. Come on,
Speaker 2: all right, let's go. Let's do you ever want to
Speaker 2: write my mahuana? Please? Please? It is rum based. I'll
Speaker 2: right give him a shot here, put it in one
Speaker 2: of these. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3: Down.
Speaker 2: I know he's gonna start turning off.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna be putting other ship in my only
Speaker 1: sockey cars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, only socking goes, my sockey comes. Okay, what torch?
Speaker 2: So give him a shutout? Just some smore about WinCE
Speaker 2: I spoke about, yes, yes, absolutely, come on, yeah yeah
Speaker 2: your little nap, Yeah.
Speaker 1: We spoke about it. Yeah, okay, okay, let's talk about
Speaker 1: leave the door open now, okay, here you go ahead.
Speaker 1: I got a whole roller, so let's talk about that.
Speaker 2: How did him but we got there? There there? Come on,
Speaker 2: appreciate you too, they come, he got you. You need
Speaker 2: another one man, right, hippie mood hippy look at yeah,
Speaker 2: hell yeah you're hippy. That's right. So one of us.
Speaker 2: They're not like us. So leave the door open. How
Speaker 2: did that get get created? So the door Opened was
Speaker 2: during COVID and yeah, can you hear me my number
Speaker 2: one world hit song lead to draw Open. We make
Speaker 2: some noise that mom, Bro, that's the first. That's my
Speaker 2: first number one hit. And I went number one twice
Speaker 2: and that's it. I mean like I got one and
Speaker 2: I'm telling you you know it's I've been done records underground,
Speaker 2: you know, semi records. It's that way if you ever
Speaker 2: had a hit record. Man, everybody knows the ain't no
Speaker 2: feeling like having a current hit record. When that ship
Speaker 2: is playing and it says it all the time, he
Speaker 2: says it all the time, Oh please, please please, Yes,
Speaker 2: it is the greatest feeling. And then when you did
Speaker 2: it with no comfort, like it's real like instrument. No,
Speaker 2: you didn't have to you know, it ain't something I
Speaker 2: gotta be like he was enforcing, like I can't keep
Speaker 2: this up or something, you know, and and it looked
Speaker 2: good and you got to do it, and everywhere you
Speaker 2: go like you know, all I'm talking old, ask motherfuckers
Speaker 2: it's to young, like you know, it's like one of
Speaker 2: those records. It's like, yeah, like that's what it is about.
Speaker 2: And that's how you know. Bruno was like, this is
Speaker 2: the songs. These are this type of music that's superstar
Speaker 2: sing That's what that's That's how he went into we
Speaker 2: went into making and like when he said we're gonna
Speaker 2: make album because that this leaders draw up and came later.
Speaker 2: But he was like, it's music that superstar saying We're
Speaker 2: gonna go in here and make some ship. Nobody's doing
Speaker 2: this sh it. No more like us like that can
Speaker 2: do it, you know, and pull it off like that.
Speaker 2: And I was like, let's go, bro. He was. I
Speaker 2: was like, you like big rock star ship, yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: and he was like, I don't know how to do
Speaker 2: it one way. It was like and remind me of
Speaker 2: like at the same time I was I was watching like, uh,
Speaker 2: Last Dance, you know, the Michael Jordan ship, and I
Speaker 2: was like, oh yeah, he's like Michael and I was like,
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna be pipping now. This is the Netflix ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah in COVID. Yeah that'ship covid. But I'm robbin. You're
Speaker 2: gonna have to wake me up and be hungover some days.
Speaker 2: I'm in Miami now yeah yeah yeah, but you still
Speaker 2: you know, you know, you needed that are making came
Speaker 2: and did it kind of got you know, it was
Speaker 2: still I don't know what worked and so and he had,
Speaker 2: you know, same Bruno same. We had an incredible team
Speaker 2: for these records that we put together. Shout out to Chucky,
Speaker 2: his engineer, who was getting all the real seventy sounds,
Speaker 2: all the mics, all the real drum heads, all the shit.
Speaker 2: Like it's from the rude to the tutor, Like these
Speaker 2: records were built from real musicians that love the art.
Speaker 2: That like, we're getting every detail so that we could
Speaker 2: make something current that had you know, that had to feel,
Speaker 2: but we could take it somewhere too. But how did
Speaker 2: they do it? What was they really doing these things on?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: That was the part that went into it, and the
Speaker 2: troubleshooting that went into it, and that was the beauty.
Speaker 2: Like how many different versions we did of the bridge
Speaker 2: and trying to get their drum sound and the mix
Speaker 2: We did so many fucking mixes where one day we
Speaker 2: just boycotted against Bruno, like we don't have to do this,
Speaker 2: said he was like, but even more like dude, one song, bro,
Speaker 2: even dre will bounce around when he might bust the
Speaker 2: bust the rhyme is gonna at least come in and
Speaker 2: they're gonna do four or five tracks. You know, the
Speaker 2: game might show up, they're gonna do ship like you know,
Speaker 2: he's gonna do what you saying. One one is because
Speaker 2: month for months, that was crazy months. And then we
Speaker 2: go maybe we go to chap into something else, and
Speaker 2: then you can't sleep when we're still working on and
Speaker 2: then leave the door trying to get one part of it,
Speaker 2: like the bridge or maybe we think we have it,
Speaker 2: but then like we mix it and it's like, why
Speaker 2: does it sound like that? And it's like, okay, we
Speaker 2: need to replay the drum again. Like now every when
Speaker 2: we mix it. We didn't have nothing to hide behind it.
Speaker 2: It's not like a bunch of processing or anything on
Speaker 2: the album. It's just we're just playing on it. Were
Speaker 2: playing the drum. Yeah, So when we mix it, we
Speaker 2: got to mix it loud, so all the we got
Speaker 2: to make sure it's loud. Now you can hear everything.
Speaker 2: So now it's like it hurts, you know, And why
Speaker 2: does it hurt? Because you guys need to remc replay,
Speaker 2: don't play so loud, maybe do something different, you know.
Speaker 2: And so we played with that so many times and
Speaker 2: then sometimes we would start playing with that when we
Speaker 2: remake the Whole Bridge again and all this stuff, and
Speaker 2: then it's just like, oh my god, everyone's about to
Speaker 2: lose their mind.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Niggas is dropping every week, like hey, something just
Speaker 2: drop going by, you know, like damn, what should be
Speaker 2: out right now, you know, like hold on, just trying
Speaker 2: to get this breege right. Yeah, so I was like
Speaker 2: ship and then when it was right boom, it was
Speaker 2: on Gucci suits, Grammys, everything red carpet. You show up
Speaker 2: with Bruno is red and all says. At that point, yeah,
Speaker 2: he was like, I'm gonna sure, I'm gonna show you
Speaker 2: how to do this shit like this all. You know,
Speaker 2: he got joy out of like having someone that he
Speaker 2: could do it with, a partner that was he respected
Speaker 2: just as much, and that they was making new music with,
Speaker 2: and that we could have fun. If you see all
Speaker 2: the stuff that we did, we're having the time interview,
Speaker 2: I started wearing a wig, bob wig. I should have
Speaker 2: brought them motherfucker to night, but the humidity they would
Speaker 2: have sucked up the wig too. But it was the
Speaker 2: time of our lives and we were just having fun.
Speaker 2: Drinking rum was drinking that rum too? Is this it's
Speaker 2: made a clean See, I can see that's money. Let's
Speaker 2: go trip the still. You can make it. Do a
Speaker 2: spell with this ship. Mm hmm. I mean you got
Speaker 2: something in comment. I want gay between and a halfs.
Speaker 1: The mean you got something else in common. I heard
Speaker 1: you don't fuck with edibles. I took some before I
Speaker 1: did this, for better worse.
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 2: Really, I took one and I was like, it's not
Speaker 2: really working. Let me take three more. Oh, because I
Speaker 2: heard the story.
Speaker 1: Of you on the on the first class airplane while
Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna die, and you did it
Speaker 1: again today.
Speaker 2: Let's smoke some more. No wonder it took you so
Speaker 2: long to get that ship. You need a little taste
Speaker 2: of that. So I thought you sworn off edibles. I did,
Speaker 2: but I was like, you know what, let me just
Speaker 2: go here, and this seems like a great format to
Speaker 2: do it. Edible, take care of me.
Speaker 6: Trus trust yes, trust yes. We all like having grammys, right,
Speaker 6: yes you can have. If this interview is looking good, He's.
Speaker 1: Like he's going to send you one a right, you
Speaker 1: gotta asking me and all the question you have the
Speaker 1: hottest chicken in the game, wearing.
Speaker 2: Your chill swear you shade real stop.
Speaker 1: No, I mean you know what I'm saying, Like, that's
Speaker 1: that's that's the thing, Like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, you.
Speaker 2: Know just how married like a motherfucker. I just don't
Speaker 2: have to get that wide.
Speaker 1: No, I understanding that that's what you like. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: lie because everybody was like, whoa.
Speaker 2: Lime is now up greted, Like I don't want to.
Speaker 1: Say it like that, but I want to saying that
Speaker 1: you know you like you look like you wan a
Speaker 1: different you, like you joined Illuminati.
Speaker 2: Man, I'm sorry. I had a vision of love. You
Speaker 2: had a vision it was more yes. And my vision
Speaker 2: was to work with the greatest and I got to
Speaker 2: work with ran Carry and I never was like it
Speaker 2: just keeps getting better and better. I have to admit
Speaker 2: it's getting better. That's say you work with great people,
Speaker 2: take it serious, and then you're getting inspired by and
Speaker 2: the new album is amazing and working. You know. It's
Speaker 2: We're so happy for you, thank you man. We are
Speaker 2: happy for you. Man. I'm happy for you guys. I
Speaker 2: can't wait for you all to hear this. You can't
Speaker 2: flip it on us. Right now, just like this is
Speaker 2: this is your moment. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: With second hand feelings. What's that like second hand smoke?
Speaker 1: Like yeah, but get you like, that's that's real. Ship
Speaker 1: man like sometimes you got to go up to go up,
Speaker 1: you go off to go off.
Speaker 2: Man, Hey man, you went up. As artists, we got
Speaker 2: a special type of that's right, you went out.
Speaker 1: You went to the opposite gab of go congratulations, enjoy
Speaker 1: the moment.
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful things. I like that stuff which you drink.
Speaker 2: Our company is called Wana King. Yeah. I forgot the
Speaker 2: uh obviously want the company. Yeah, and the dreaming we'll
Speaker 2: be in uh, we're hitting the market soon. So we're
Speaker 2: bouncing around right now. We're bouncing around. Let's describe it
Speaker 2: right now. It's so random. I got shout out to Japan.
Speaker 2: They got the most random hip hop stores, super bout Legs,
Speaker 2: super boot leg. Yeah, it's the most obscure like like
Speaker 2: collection of records. But it looks like it's like Japanese
Speaker 2: import records. I love it. I was like, this is
Speaker 2: right for this perfect framed up right. It's great for
Speaker 2: the show. The monitors. Yeah, but I can tell like
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 1: Of these artists are going to hit me and be
Speaker 1: like I didn't get paid, but none of that, And
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So I like to keep a little collateral. So you're
Speaker 2: really gonna put this out. I got them written, so
Speaker 2: let's make sure the edit is good. We can actually
Speaker 2: have a good time. Nice. We're gonna is so much
Speaker 2: you think you would somewhere. I want this to come out.
Speaker 2: It's coming out coming out.
Speaker 3: Nice.
Speaker 4: You know we're dropping it tomorrow, right, We'll see what
Speaker 4: you find says about that.
Speaker 2: Gonna be negotiate with. She's gonna get to ring it off.
Speaker 2: By the way, I don't know who got my light.
Speaker 2: That's me. Oh my god, let's talk about animals. Wanna
Speaker 2: comp down album mm DJ premiere and doctor Drew else
Speaker 2: could do it to you?
Speaker 1: How do you get to work with dut God? This
Speaker 1: is told awesome, Lena, be quiet, it's all charmed life,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, God is so good man.
Speaker 2: Like I'm just in there maneuvering and just like these
Speaker 2: things happen, bro, like I trip out on myself, like
Speaker 2: and that was happening again early on when I was
Speaker 2: just going in there fucking with Dre, just being there
Speaker 2: every night. I wasn't worried about if I got on
Speaker 2: the mic, if I didn't get on the mic. I
Speaker 2: was just in the studio. I didn't care, like I
Speaker 2: was a studio rat. And then whenever I could, what's up.
Speaker 2: We're working on this so and so I was gonna
Speaker 2: sing it. Okay, we're writing like everyone's writing like it's crazy,
Speaker 2: like crazy because new artists are coming up. It's a
Speaker 2: great energy in there and it's all Dre. Everyone's like,
Speaker 2: you know Dre. You want to give the best performance,
Speaker 2: the best everything. So I was already working with I
Speaker 2: got a thing where I worked with Premiere in Europe
Speaker 2: again through knowledge where far as a compident, yes, really
Speaker 2: we got to think in Germany with boiler Room, where
Speaker 2: we did this thing and I'm starting not Germany, Russia.
Speaker 2: We went to Russia with boiler Room. And one of
Speaker 2: the things is that I worked with Premiere like it
Speaker 2: was a part of the thing because Premiere was on
Speaker 2: the gig, and that we did our first song there
Speaker 2: with this other kid from Russia. And that's where we
Speaker 2: our relationship started and we started building. And then when
Speaker 2: I started working Dre, it was like you're working with
Speaker 2: Dre Bremia, so I hit him up and he came through.
Speaker 2: They go way back. They started geeking out. I'm hearing
Speaker 2: about you know, they talking about records and like all
Speaker 2: this stuff. Yeah, I want to understand what you're trying
Speaker 2: to say.
Speaker 6: Just now.
Speaker 1: You just said that obviously Dre and Premier knew each
Speaker 1: other quiet, but you were the initial reconnection.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I had did two records with Premiere in Russia,
Speaker 2: and one of them I didn't use for the things,
Speaker 2: so that was that was ended up being animals and
Speaker 2: I had that record and it was these old sneakers.
Speaker 2: It was like all the whole ship and uh, I
Speaker 2: was playing records for Dre and he was like this
Speaker 2: is crazy. I was like, it's Premiere. Like he's like yeah,
Speaker 2: having yes, yes, that's another one dude. People give it
Speaker 2: up to like shout out to Premiere like he's the one,
Speaker 2: another one universal that they all give it up from
Speaker 2: Alchemist everybody, that's the god.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: So uh it's great, you know, and there's only your
Speaker 2: yeah shot stick a shot. And I've been around to
Speaker 2: see people like thank god, I've been around to see
Speaker 2: this happen where people like Premiere and drag in the
Speaker 2: studio and they are both geeking out and you see
Speaker 2: that these are just dude, two dudes that are like
Speaker 2: Vinyl heads sample Craig Diggers, camaraderie between them, that's what
Speaker 2: they are, you know, kids that like You see that
Speaker 2: and it's like whoa, and it's like that all comes back.
Speaker 2: And then I've seen it happen when I saw Q
Speaker 2: Tip and Dre and it's like same thing. Man, very
Speaker 2: few people where I could see university. Everyone has that
Speaker 2: mutual respect for.
Speaker 3: In that era, you know.
Speaker 2: And so yeah, I had the record, brought it to
Speaker 2: Dre and and uh, Drey started working with it, and
Speaker 2: then he brought Premiere in to scratch and to start
Speaker 2: building the beat, and then they started clapping on the beat,
Speaker 2: and uh that was that. I think it ended up
Speaker 2: just being me on the record, right, because they tried
Speaker 2: some features on there too, but I think it's just me.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was and it was like, you know,
Speaker 2: Similio good. It was like a social commentary of what
Speaker 2: was going on at the time. And I like those
Speaker 2: records too. You know, we're due for a record like that.
Speaker 2: You do a record. I'm working Premiere to do a
Speaker 2: record together. Yeah, I want to get another one like
Speaker 2: no album a project. Yeah, that would be crazy. Wait
Speaker 2: in line, I don't know, we're.
Speaker 1: Talking about Premier. Answered, that makes annoy and you great?
Speaker 2: Now Premiere be first up? What about Alchemists or supposed
Speaker 2: to have Alchemists? And you said you're already but the
Speaker 2: whole whole album?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 2: Who you want Premiere? I just I mean, that's what
Speaker 2: I'm thinking in this moment. But yeah, Mad Live is amazing.
Speaker 2: Are you saying who's our choice? Who is all choice?
Speaker 6: Be?
Speaker 2: For me to do a whole album? Me right now?
Speaker 1: Wise, Premiere, Premiere, I would say Premiere. I would say
Speaker 1: just as my second choice. Alchemist. I just love that,
Speaker 1: Venice Beach.
Speaker 2: I can see the Alchemist centers. You guess, yes, you're
Speaker 2: an Alchemist live album. So no one's making money taking
Speaker 2: What do you want to split that between? How many?
Speaker 2: What do you want to hear? What are you doing album?
Speaker 2: I like the Flu album. I'm doing something. I gotta
Speaker 2: do something. Let's do the shot for that. I want
Speaker 2: you to do just a production album. I gotta do
Speaker 2: something just instrumental drums, beat breaks. Yeah, I was just something.
Speaker 2: I was just swigging no shots, you know, like you
Speaker 2: hear ship clinking in the back cheers. So I just
Speaker 2: want to point out those rings. This is crazy. I
Speaker 2: walk a lot of jewels and rings. See the fun
Speaker 2: going on twenty five right here? Easy for is that dollars?
Speaker 2: That's like a fuck you to the heaters. Take a dive, O.
Speaker 2: You see what's going on? They watch wings just one
Speaker 2: hundred buck fifty one hundred, one hundred. It's all porcelain,
Speaker 2: but from wrong fire. Stupid important dollars. Right, you do
Speaker 2: the math. I'm not another guy. I'm just I'm just
Speaker 2: pointing out this. Yeah, at that point, so let's let's
Speaker 2: talk about coming down? Yeah? Are we talking about off
Speaker 2: the high? Off the high? What are we were coming down?
Speaker 2: I don't ever want to come down off the charum life,
Speaker 2: you know, off the blessings and this good time. You know,
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, you don't want the party to stop.
Speaker 2: And I'm having a great time and I still am.
Speaker 2: Even when I wrote that record, it was like the
Speaker 2: epitome of what I was going through, and I was
Speaker 2: doing all this stuff with all these people. I was like,
Speaker 2: that was that was the last song I did for
Speaker 2: the record. So I was having a great time, and
Speaker 2: I didn't want I didn't want the party to stop.
Speaker 2: You know, you work so hard to get to this level,
Speaker 2: but bliss, you know absolutely to work on stop. You know,
Speaker 2: speaking about party, you're the party. Oh I believe Nellie's birthday? Yeah?
Speaker 6: I did.
Speaker 2: Was it Nellie's birthday?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And Vegas Shanty surprised him, hit at all his closest
Speaker 2: friends and put together a really nice event for him
Speaker 2: in Vegas. I didn't know they was filming a reality show.
Speaker 2: But I got some time in the reality show too,
Speaker 2: So I want my check. Let me get the lighter, Okay,
Speaker 2: I want a reoccurring role now. Yeah, but that was
Speaker 2: an honor to be called, huge honor to be in
Speaker 2: that that lineup. I mean, she had everybody pulled up
Speaker 2: and it's great, man Like Jermaine Brie was like hosting.
Speaker 2: It had everybody there, man, Lloyd, it was. It was beautiful.
Speaker 2: It's beautiful. Anybody ever throw a birthday party for.
Speaker 6: You like that?
Speaker 2: For you that you did for I thought my own
Speaker 2: birthday party right, been that nigga for some minutes. Ship
Speaker 2: It's like party now.
Speaker 1: But bro, man, I'm gonna be honest. I'm proud of
Speaker 1: I'm proud of your story. Like you know, you know
Speaker 1: when you hear your story or you like could google
Speaker 1: your story. Right, it starts out with you know, turmoil.
Speaker 1: You know you have two parents, us in jail. So
Speaker 1: one would think, damn, man, this guy is supposed to
Speaker 1: be he can't be a winner like right, And the
Speaker 1: fact is you you flip the rocks, so you flip
Speaker 1: the everything.
Speaker 2: And the fact that I love like not only me,
Speaker 2: like everyone. We love your smile.
Speaker 1: You smile, bro, And like I said, I'm not fool
Speaker 1: about a smile because I smile a lot. And the
Speaker 1: reason why I smile a lot because I know what
Speaker 1: I've been through. I'm so happy to be where I'm
Speaker 1: at right and without you telling me that, I could
Speaker 1: tell that that that that you that same person like
Speaker 1: we we that people that we probably wasn't meant to
Speaker 1: be here, but we're here and we beat the odds
Speaker 1: so much that that smile is like, of course, so
Speaker 1: I relate to you.
Speaker 2: They just know, just even know, man, I related to
Speaker 2: that people because I related related to be in the odds.
Speaker 2: But now let me ask you.
Speaker 1: You know, we got exhibit from over here, we got
Speaker 1: you know, game from over here. Everybody's from California, ox
Speaker 1: nod Is is a town that people didn't really know.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Is there ever a time where you doubted yourself and
Speaker 1: was like, man, no one is gonna understand you know
Speaker 1: what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like has there ever been to you the time it
Speaker 2: wasn't making sense money wise, monetary wise, you know, and
Speaker 2: I had kid, Yeah, and that was the big battle.
Speaker 2: It's like that's the artist's battle. That's that's every artist's battle.
Speaker 2: And it's like, you know, what do you do at
Speaker 2: that point where some artists know how to switch it
Speaker 2: over and become an entrepreneur at that point? And see, okay,
Speaker 2: this is about if I want to do this for
Speaker 2: a living, it's going to be a certain amount of
Speaker 2: business acumen. I need to go into this with branding
Speaker 2: and I'm going to really especially a family, YEP. I
Speaker 2: need to at least organize how this is coming through
Speaker 2: funneling and all this stuff. Right, How young is it
Speaker 2: that you have your family? Man? Like, how I sound
Speaker 2: like twenty four that you had your first kid? Yeh,
Speaker 2: twenty four? And were you know at the gates you know?
Speaker 2: And my wife was straight from Korea and didn't have
Speaker 2: any family out here. My family was her family. We
Speaker 2: just all bandoned together and just made it happen, you know,
Speaker 2: and supported you all supported, watched the kid full time.
Speaker 2: I was out there hustling, you know, I would do show.
Speaker 2: I started the band that I play with now, the
Speaker 2: Free National shout outs to the Free National shout out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: take a shot for Free Nationally. Let's do it. Let's
Speaker 2: do it right. Yes, yeah, banded with my brothers, started
Speaker 2: a band and was like, Okay, we're gonna take the
Speaker 2: ship serious. We're gonna start getting our show together. And
Speaker 2: we became we got a bad ass show. And then
Speaker 2: that's when things started happening. But yeah, that was it
Speaker 2: was pivotal with the kids and uh, growing up critical, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's critical. What was your question again? He was just
Speaker 2: saying that I had to hustle from the ground up.
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, that was kind of looking for we
Speaker 2: was on week I was on the government assistant.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it was like the milk, you get the groceries,
Speaker 2: you know you can you can get a little check.
Speaker 2: Now you're just saying, did you doubt yourself being Oh
Speaker 2: I doubt it? Yes, I did. Taking the bus yeah,
Speaker 2: not really, you know, kind of like where you know from,
Speaker 2: you know what, but coming from oxthow I had the
Speaker 2: battery went back because when I was coming up, I
Speaker 2: was like, you know what, I grew up that knowing
Speaker 2: that Mallet was from Oxnard. I know that we had
Speaker 2: a big impact. Yes, yes, Matt is from Oxnard and
Speaker 2: one of our biggest heroes, and that is an incredible producer. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: he's an MC two. Absolutely lupak oh No, like the whole.
Speaker 4: There's a whole what's this alter egos?
Speaker 2: So I was like, Oxnard got it, so I'm going
Speaker 2: to be you know. I was like, I want to
Speaker 2: be next coming out, you know, and to show that
Speaker 2: we got you. You know, it was already on the
Speaker 2: map as far as I was concerned through that, and
Speaker 2: so I was just trying to, you know, continue to
Speaker 2: raise the bar with it. But I wanted to go
Speaker 2: to l A. I was determined. I was like, I
Speaker 2: want to get out of Oxnard. When I was coming
Speaker 2: up in high school, I see I was born in
Speaker 2: Saint John's UH Hospital in Auxnard in eighty six and
Speaker 2: I stayed there till about seven years old. Then I
Speaker 2: moved a venture and that's where I did like middle school,
Speaker 2: high school, everything, and that's just the suburb over Then
Speaker 2: I started playing drums in church and Auxnard and this
Speaker 2: is all the same, you know to me, but it's
Speaker 2: very different too, Auxnord Venture. But I always wanted to
Speaker 2: be like, I'm from Oxnard, you know, because it's like
Speaker 2: that's where the souls are, you know. But I got
Speaker 2: love for the whole county. But yeah, I was like,
Speaker 2: I want to go to la though, because there is
Speaker 2: not enough out here, you know. I was playing the
Speaker 2: shows in Oxnard Venture and it being nobody there, yeah,
Speaker 2: you had to go in. And so I was like,
Speaker 2: is this really for me? You know, like it's not.
Speaker 2: I can't pay I can't support my family with this.
Speaker 2: Maybe I should try to at this point switch over
Speaker 2: at it's now or never. I do something different right now,
Speaker 2: I'll be good by the time I'm thirty something, you know.
Speaker 2: But I was like, I'm just gonna do it. I
Speaker 2: couldn't not do it, you know, Like I said, it's
Speaker 2: like breathing. You are always going to want to do
Speaker 2: something musically creative, do doing something in that. And when
Speaker 2: I came to l A, I found out like how
Speaker 2: good I was at drums at being a live musician
Speaker 2: and how much I had to learn about and I
Speaker 2: had so much to know about, and it was like
Speaker 2: a field day because I was going to this music
Speaker 2: college and everything. My mind was being blown. So I
Speaker 2: was like, okay, it gave me the battery, like I'm
Speaker 2: gonna do it. And I met Jose My, my guitar player,
Speaker 2: and he was like from San Diego. He was going
Speaker 2: through the same thing, and we were just banding together
Speaker 2: and we're like playing these shitty ass gigs man getting
Speaker 2: fucked over, you know, getting not paying nothing, and but
Speaker 2: we loved it. We loved waking up smoking weed just
Speaker 2: as good as this. You know, our weed was a
Speaker 2: little better.
Speaker 1: But this shot for coming up days. Come on, take
Speaker 1: a shot for your coming up days. That's some of
Speaker 1: it was sudden to be look, look big. You wanted
Speaker 1: to sitting around Now, this is the good Mama wuana.
Speaker 1: That's the one that's made in.
Speaker 2: The shower, not to tell it's the moonshine. I like
Speaker 2: it continue I was coming up, but it was great,
Speaker 2: So I did think about stopping though, But I have
Speaker 2: some good friends that helped me out there, like keep going,
Speaker 2: bro do it for us at least we love. We
Speaker 2: had doubts, Yeah, the way I stopped stop a full
Speaker 2: on quick a couple of times where I was trying
Speaker 2: to work the jobs. Yeah, you can't. If you can't
Speaker 2: provide for your family, you're going to be doubt yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but then you had to know that to be real myself.
Speaker 2: I was like, this is what I was born to do.
Speaker 2: I want to do this. I'm going to make it work.
Speaker 2: I'm figure this out. Can't be that hard, you know,
Speaker 2: and I'm glad I did. And it was really like
Speaker 2: the people I had it was really supportive, you know
Speaker 2: that were like you, like, we love your smile. Would
Speaker 2: keep doing it even if you got to stay in
Speaker 2: our spot, use our studio, shut out to dumbfound it
Speaker 2: Johnny Park, you know, like people that were Shafi Kusin
Speaker 2: saw raw Omas like that. People were very supportive of
Speaker 2: helping me grow and taking me.
Speaker 3: Over throwdot because I know that they didn't it come
Speaker 3: to I had.
Speaker 2: That song Swayed before I got the stone Throw, and
Speaker 2: we were dipping around on SoundCloud because there are dope
Speaker 2: labels from people that don't know. Yeah, so that was
Speaker 2: what mad Li was on so Knowledge was already signed
Speaker 2: to stone Throw. So I was like I met Knowledge
Speaker 2: and we did Swede and I was like, yo, Knowledge,
Speaker 2: play this for them, like let's get a deal. He
Speaker 2: was like, let's start a group. We started the same
Speaker 2: thing like Albruno did. Let's start a group, same thing.
Speaker 2: We started a group called No Worries and we had
Speaker 2: that song, but it wasn't officially out. Was just bouncing
Speaker 2: around SoundCloud and band camp and stuff, and they obviously
Speaker 2: saw the talent, they saw us perform it, and then
Speaker 2: they were like cool, swoop it up. They signed that group.
Speaker 2: They were the one to put it out on Wax
Speaker 2: and got it going stuth By Southwest. We started pushing it.
Speaker 2: So labels like that, yes, brow Yeah, I'm telling you, bro,
Speaker 2: because that's what it is. Because a lot of art
Speaker 2: to get into labels now they don't know it's a partnership,
Speaker 2: like they got to be bringing something disable too. If
Speaker 2: you're a artist that haves no like no way to
Speaker 2: it doesn't translate where you're doing this to translate to
Speaker 2: tours or two units sold or anything like that or
Speaker 2: getting you in these places, then uh, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're doing it. Maybe you're just
Speaker 2: doing it for yourself, you know, but if you partner
Speaker 2: with people, then these are people that usually can help
Speaker 2: you get to that and you're aligned. You guys got
Speaker 2: to understanding like minded and they're doing it. They're curating vinyl.
Speaker 2: They put my ship on vinyl. They got it and
Speaker 2: they got me. That ship bubbled into enough where it
Speaker 2: got to those writers that got me into dre and
Speaker 2: it was like because they have some always equity because
Speaker 2: of what they've been doing. Yeah, yeah, that's it. So yeah,
Speaker 2: got blessed ones throw and we did that and uh,
Speaker 2: we just we went we went for it. So let
Speaker 2: me ask you a question.
Speaker 1: This probably should have been in me in Quick Time
Speaker 1: or slim, but I'll ask you now, independent or major.
Speaker 2: This depends on what you want to do, what you negotiate,
Speaker 2: if you need a major to do what you need
Speaker 2: to do, if you see that working and what you're doing.
Speaker 2: As an artist, the artist has to really know what
Speaker 2: the whole ins and outs, what they want, what they want. Okay,
Speaker 2: there's no more, there's no more of this, Like you know,
Speaker 2: I was a child. I mean some of them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like you just did it or maybe you know some
Speaker 2: of those that needed that little oomph and then they
Speaker 2: got them to the thing and then it may happen.
Speaker 2: So everybody I've ever been involved with, I have, I
Speaker 2: got paperwork with them even as I go, and that
Speaker 2: I have had to pay off, you know, slowly, and
Speaker 2: now to become like free, you know eventually, you know,
Speaker 2: now the pros from people that maybe were managed labels
Speaker 2: paying off that, you know. But to be blessed to
Speaker 2: have the masters of my first two albums already, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, and see that and then get
Speaker 2: a deal where I worked out with Dre where I
Speaker 2: can eventually get my masters for all ship. It's like,
Speaker 2: you know, all that shit is cool. And then sometimes
Speaker 2: Dre he'll be like, you can own the master on
Speaker 2: that on a single and then that joint gets picked
Speaker 2: up for speak the songs bubble about the other day
Speaker 2: about the the licensing a couple of joints I own
Speaker 2: outright singles that I get things were crazy that goes
Speaker 2: straight you know, straight from my kid. Uh No, but
Speaker 2: that I was signed to Dre for that he said,
Speaker 2: you can keep that one whatever, keep the mask on
Speaker 2: that he produced, not produced, no, no, but yeah, but
Speaker 2: but that you know, I.
Speaker 4: Was while I was signing oversea.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I mean he could easily. I have to
Speaker 2: clear everything through Drake, you know, and I have everything
Speaker 2: is still very much like a label. So it's like
Speaker 2: he keeps the quality control of his artists, you know. So, uh,
Speaker 2: you still have to clear stuff. And now it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, he's been like, hey, this one, I like,
Speaker 2: this one is for you, blah blah blah. And so
Speaker 2: it's like to have some of those and to have
Speaker 2: the first two, it's like it's it's really dope man.
Speaker 2: And and uh uh, I think that you I've been
Speaker 2: blessed to be able to have the versatility to work
Speaker 2: with both. I've done major, I've done the indie. I've
Speaker 2: gotten the dude go back and go back to do
Speaker 2: indy with my band the Free Nationals. Let their album
Speaker 2: come out with an indie Empire. I've been working with
Speaker 2: Empire for years. Shout out to Gazi and Animo. Yeah,
Speaker 2: got gold platinum records with them on the indie tip
Speaker 2: and with my with my record label, ape Ship, and
Speaker 2: I just uh yeah, I got my own record label,
Speaker 2: ape Ship A ship Yeah, Anderson past Empire Ship dip
Speaker 2: Ship Records. Yeah no, no, Ape Ship aph Yeah. And
Speaker 2: I got I signed in my band. I got Ray Khalil.
Speaker 2: I got this other group called still Beans. He's like
Speaker 2: a one man band, but we got records out there.
Speaker 2: And I've been able to play with both with with
Speaker 2: with the indie and the major. And I think it's
Speaker 2: it's all about the artists. What you want get You
Speaker 2: don't get what you deserve, you get what you negotiate.
Speaker 2: So absolutely Sonic, what label? What that did that drop on?
Speaker 2: It never dropped off? You see the chain remains? Oh
Speaker 2: see yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, anything. We can tell you
Speaker 2: the label right now. Just look at Atlantic. Oh okay.
Speaker 1: And that's when after Math stop being a major. Correct No,
Speaker 1: because after.
Speaker 2: Math after Math has some very messing with Apple and
Speaker 2: in the school they made the cell after Math is
Speaker 2: the indie label still gets to do what the distribution
Speaker 2: whoever they want to do. Yes, And the last thing
Speaker 2: that they did which was very successful was the was
Speaker 2: Silk Sonic. But then with the Atlantic, so was that
Speaker 2: they killed it? Did you have to one idea to know?
Speaker 2: Everybody was down? Everybody was good? I was like, you know,
Speaker 2: Dre would preferred me to work on my own stuff.
Speaker 2: He wants me to work on Anderson pat that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he wants to like do your thing. This is great.
Speaker 2: I keep doing that. I do a lot of collaborative efforts.
Speaker 2: If you look at a lot of my records always collapse.
Speaker 2: That's been my thing. I love it. It's not fun
Speaker 2: unless I'm like working. I like working with other people.
Speaker 2: It's like that's where it's fun for me. And so
Speaker 2: but when it's time for me to work on my
Speaker 2: own ship, it gets a little like I don't care,
Speaker 2: I pee a little, I take a little more time,
Speaker 2: and it gets a little more methodical and stuff. But
Speaker 2: I love when I can work in a duo or
Speaker 2: something like that. You know, I don't know, that's something
Speaker 2: to my brain. Yeah, and so yeah, I told Dre
Speaker 2: and he was with it, and then we played him
Speaker 2: leader open and it was like yeah crazy and then
Speaker 2: you we was doing the Residency and it was just
Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't know that. Yeah, absolutely, and then
Speaker 2: uh and Julie at Atlantic at the time, I mean
Speaker 2: it was it was fucking It was an incredible Julie Greenwall. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 2: Judy Green was solid. Right, So so who the he
Speaker 2: was was under What was it Judy Green, Mike Kaiser,
Speaker 2: I'm so terrible names with Julie, black dude, and like
Speaker 2: some other people. Yeah, there was a black guy for sure.
Speaker 2: The classes. Yes, that's my brother. I bleed for that.
Speaker 2: Do you remember like lows? Okay, let's just chill. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't want to get I don't know
Speaker 2: who was exactly, but I was there. You getting way
Speaker 2: too much money? You don't know. You just know you're
Speaker 2: getting way too much money.
Speaker 1: That's where it seems, and that's you know what, That's
Speaker 1: a beautiful that's beautiful. So is there anything in this industry.
Speaker 2: That's you regret? I mean my double excel freestyle was
Speaker 2: a bit cringe, but I don't regret it. I just
Speaker 2: could have been in a better outfit and that's all say,
Speaker 2: no regrets. I think it's great, man, I look back.
Speaker 2: I just love that I'm able to learn from my
Speaker 2: mistakes and failures. I think that's the best part about
Speaker 2: this whole thing, you know, learning in front of those,
Speaker 2: enjoying those moments too, soaking those in and then moving on,
Speaker 2: learning how to get better and enjoying the ride, being
Speaker 2: open to new stuff, being okay, with not being the
Speaker 2: best in the room with something and just like learning
Speaker 2: about other people and trying to keep growing and learning
Speaker 2: and that's it, and try to keep your dogs that
Speaker 2: your way. It's tough, man. You know, you don't make
Speaker 2: new friends these days.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: I'm really like, I'm grateful for y'all having this platform.
Speaker 2: You know, I always see you, you know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: take that light back because you ain't trying to.
Speaker 3: Hey man, you're saying some nice words about us, and
Speaker 3: this is why niggas can't express it.
Speaker 2: That's why we need therapy.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 2: I just anxiety. At the same time, I want to
Speaker 2: delight my blood. I like you, Thank you. I know.
Speaker 2: No man like you. Man, No, man, I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: honest with you. Man, You're You're a legend. We've been
Speaker 2: you know, you know me and you got a relationship.
Speaker 1: I've been trying to get you on here because I
Speaker 1: want to give your flowers. And that's the thing about
Speaker 1: our culture is most of us don't really do that.
Speaker 1: Like it takes nothing from me as a man to
Speaker 1: tell you how much I appreciate you as a man,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, it doesn't take nothing
Speaker 1: away from me. It doesn't take nothing away from us.
Speaker 1: And that's what our show was about. Our show is
Speaker 1: about giving people and making people know how much the
Speaker 1: culture appreciate you. And god damn it, we appreciate you
Speaker 1: motherfucker all right. And and it's not like you know,
Speaker 1: you deserve this ship, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: I've been seeing you for years and me and you've
Speaker 1: been kicking it and I'm just like, yo, I just
Speaker 1: want to give you. I want you to understand, you know,
Speaker 1: our play and watch your fans gonna when you your
Speaker 1: fans see this, they're gonna be like, yo, wow, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take care of you.
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, of course, you know we're great, you know, because.
Speaker 3: It down a little bit a little bit, but you
Speaker 3: got to understand we can't edit it down a lot
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I watched you on like every interview you did, and
Speaker 1: your story, like you know, has kind of it's been told,
Speaker 1: but it's you've been and you've been telling it with
Speaker 1: a smile on your face, right, So people might not
Speaker 1: take it as serious as what it really is. Like
Speaker 1: they're not aware read that your parents both did a
Speaker 1: bid one seven years the other fourteen years. That doesn't
Speaker 1: sound like a man who smiles, Like who smiles to me?
Speaker 1: And when I see you on an off camera and
Speaker 1: you smiling, that shit is the ultimate version of success
Speaker 1: to me. To me, this is what I'm trying to
Speaker 1: tell you. It's because you know, had I been through
Speaker 1: that exact thing, I might I might have not been
Speaker 1: able to smile as confident as you. And you do
Speaker 1: smile confident it do in like three different groups. You
Speaker 1: tored like a wrestler and you just live life. And
Speaker 1: I want to say, that's something that I admire.
Speaker 2: That's a.
Speaker 1: Forget a rapper, forget an artist, forget an entertainer. I
Speaker 1: admired as a man. It's a man. The ship that
Speaker 1: you've been through and how you approach life and you
Speaker 1: look forward. I solute you rather.
Speaker 2: Big time. I got one more shot. Let's let's do you.
Speaker 1: You got to, you got to, you got a little
Speaker 1: too little bookorean mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Told you got more in common than you think.
Speaker 1: So And just for the last things that we know,
Speaker 1: last shot, Yeah, one last shot before we get Is
Speaker 1: it anything you want to say your fans?
Speaker 2: Because I love you, Thank you so much for your patience,
Speaker 2: Thanks for riding with me. Thanks for just you know,
Speaker 2: grinding with me.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: I'm enjoying the ride. And I love you nothing without you.
Speaker 2: I got so much stuff on the way. Uh. And
Speaker 2: just know that I'm going to be taking care of
Speaker 2: y'all because y'all taking care of me. And shout out
Speaker 2: to my family, my my baby's soul shine. Uh, hey on,
Speaker 2: shout out to Ronnie, Willie Camille, Paris night, Kenya Kayla
Speaker 2: Kaylannie Kendrick. Uh Carousel, Who was you shying out? That
Speaker 2: got real? You want a couple that came in earlier? Okay, bro,
Speaker 2: thank you so much. And one more thing, by the way,
Speaker 2: this is your house whenever you want to come back.
Speaker 1: Take this last. Yeah, I've got three shots. Okay, take
Speaker 1: a hockey. Thanks guys chez. Then I got one more.
Speaker 1: You got a s killer right there. Killer with the
Speaker 1: one more let me pour up.
Speaker 2: Yeah on the flight you gotta flight's awful. Sorry for you, sir, goddamn.
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